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Speaker 2: The World's of vaginal podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. So

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Speaker 2: my question to whoever wants to be today's ball Noor.

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Speaker 3: Is just last night it was probably a Catch twenty

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot of like that above us.

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Speaker 1: No, No, he's.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, wilting Violet or whatever that's saying shrinking

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Speaker 2: Violet here.

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Speaker 3: I'm an ally of Bill's Mafia Tuesday, or an.

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Speaker 2: Ally of an honorary member.

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Speaker 3: No, I have friends in the mafia, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know a cl was late, not hurt late, Nix says nuts.

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Speaker 3: I don't have anything. I don't have anything nice to say,

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Speaker 3: so I'm just not going to say it at all. Okay,

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Speaker 3: what do you mean, I'm not a man of the people.

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Speaker 2: You don't like people.

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Speaker 4: You're right.

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Speaker 3: The radio side of it is a little different than

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Speaker 3: like the reporters beat reporter side of it.

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Speaker 5: I think it's all the same. I think it's just

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Speaker 5: all raw raw. Rossis boombo.

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Speaker 2: But do you underst This is Patriot's Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here

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Speaker 2: at j Les Stadium. I turn the page day. We'll

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Speaker 2: be turning our eyes to the Baltimore Ravens for a

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Speaker 2: Sunday night game. But you know, there's probably still some

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Speaker 2: residue from the Bills game that people want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: So that's okay, but we are going to focus on

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Speaker 2: the on the Ravens today. We got Mike Rabel at

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Speaker 2: one ten. I believe that is that what he's coming on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, on the nose when you know, I can't

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Speaker 3: tell people one because it's.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you're complaining now getting more information, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's just like consistency. Fred.

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Speaker 2: Oh well the same time, listen, I like the communication

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Speaker 2: from this regime. I have no complaints, no complaints. I

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Speaker 2: think they're outstanding, outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Well, you got to deal with it a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to have those conversations on keeping the

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Speaker 1: train on the track.

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Speaker 2: You asked the question, you get a response, you get explanations.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's wonderful anyway. Okay, So it's Evan

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Speaker 2: it's Paul, let's do us, it's me, It's Alex and

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Speaker 2: Matt in the booth that.

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Speaker 1: I like that sing song. Yeah it's good.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling better, A feeling better, No, no, no more

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Speaker 1: dark Fred feeling better?

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Speaker 3: Do you hear what when Matt Collins said about it,

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Speaker 3: about what about the game on Sunday and the loss?

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Speaker 2: What did he say?

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Speaker 3: He said, like, when you know, because everybody poops, right,

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Speaker 3: so when you take a poop, you don't stare at

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Speaker 3: it forever. You gotta flush it eventually. Yeah, so we

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Speaker 3: were flushing.

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Speaker 2: It, flushed the poop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're done.

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Speaker 2: We buried the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about that, but they flushed the poop. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, that's what we're going with.

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Speaker 2: So he thought it was a turn of the game.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to put work in his mouth, but

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Speaker 2: Okay, because you thought it was a pretty good game.

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Speaker 3: You know, that was a good game football game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean in terms of the Patriots, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: They didn't play so poorly.

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Speaker 5: They did some things. Well, yeah, was that their best half?

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Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, I said what Devon just said.

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Speaker 5: football they played in a while. Now, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: All right. So how you know, coming off that game,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how you can't be.

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Speaker 7: I've been worried about stopping their run for.

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Speaker 1: A while, and I've been worried about Derreck Henry since

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Speaker 1: August twenty nineteen. Correct, when he walked in front of

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Speaker 5: Well, I made the unfortunate mistake of asking Duce a

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Speaker 2: There's certain games where he's not done that well.

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Speaker 7: And then other games of the games that Lamar didn't play.

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Speaker 3: In and they had he had some fumbling issues.

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Speaker 7: Definitely cost them the first game of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but their run game is awesome. It's it's schemed well,

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Speaker 3: they got good players. They got recarred as a beast

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Speaker 2: So Patriots have the personnel to combat that as we

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Speaker 7: So I have a question for the You like to

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Speaker 5: So I'm going to ask the ball knowers Mike and

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Speaker 5: you think the James Cooks style smaller quicker slasher or

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Speaker 2: I think earlier it was Oh geez, so I can't answer. Okay,

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Speaker 1: What do you mean because the just harder to kick

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Speaker 2: No, no, just they I'm just saying the way the

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Speaker 1: I think they can be better. I can think even

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Speaker 1: you know, look no farther than last week where they

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Speaker 2: A bad matchup.

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Speaker 2: Unless you all those good teams fall during when Lamar

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Speaker 3: He was hurt some of them, Yeah, the weeks five

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Speaker 3: I just thought that the details in terms of their

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Speaker 3: Like it's not the thing about Baltimore's run game, too,

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Speaker 2: What's the early weather report for Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be nicer. I heard like forties

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Speaker 7: Good news for Drake.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me wonderful. Where is Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I asked the question about Henry because and I agree

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Speaker 4: I like that?

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Speaker 2: Defense is better Bills or Ravens Ravens.

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Speaker 5: One seventeen to Cleveland, then thirty eight, thirty seven, forty four.

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Speaker 7: But that's not the case.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Mike, you mentioned like they've played a

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Speaker 5: they got killed by the Texans without Lamar. They've had

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good win.

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Speaker 3: there he should have time, Drake should have time back there.

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Speaker 3: They should be able to block it. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I look at the Kyle Hamilton, you know, playing

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Speaker 8: Still out there still, It's incredible I think that I'm

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Speaker 3: It's incredible that he's still playing at a pretty high level. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Lot of Gilman kwya Gilman before the trade deadline. That's

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, that was you know, I was reading

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Speaker 5: This is what they allowed in those eight games, seventeen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting they've only kind of ended up with

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Speaker 5: It's been heard, and I think he's heard now. I

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Speaker 3: Right, I don't think so. He didn't play last week.

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Speaker 5: So they haven't been able to be consistent enough. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's one of the and he's probably one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, do you think he's lost it permanently

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Speaker 3: He's, uh, he's incredibly banged up. He's got like three

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Speaker 5: What's it all started with a hamstring. He missed the

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Speaker 7: Yeah. It's funny. It's the team that can't lose on

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Speaker 5: The Patriots the only undefeated team on the road, and

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they're three and five at home three and five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So if the Patriots win this game, blank happened

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Speaker 1: Oh? What happened?

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Speaker 1: I think they came the run game, And I mean

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Speaker 2: So last week, last week's failure to stop the run,

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was just a week too.

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Speaker 1: I think when you're missing talent, you need your defense

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Speaker 2: But is that because, like I'm trying to get that,

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say that, you know, they since Milton

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Speaker 5: in the year, it because the power teams sometimes I

441
00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 5: think can get an advantage as the year goes on

442
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 5: because you're not as quite as fresh and it's a

443
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 5: little bit harder to get off those blocks. And now

444
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 5: in this particular case, you take Spleine out right, so

445
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 5: obviously he's a good player, and you're missing a good player,

446
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 5: which that's you know, a parent like you need a

447
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 5: good player. But there's more snaps now for Gibbons, there's

448
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 5: more snaps now for Ellis, there's more snaps for Tavai

449
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 5: where that was kind of a you know, explain, was

450
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 5: an every down player. The other guy's kind of rotated

451
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,439
Speaker 5: in so those guys aren't quite as fresh as they

452
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 5: might have been in another game Tonga, Did Tonga play

453
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 5: more snaps in the season high These kind of things

454
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 5: you just kind of watch, Yeah, don't check it, just

455
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 5: just go with it.

456
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 7: You have a feel for it, and.

457
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 2: It's great.

458
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: It's actually pretty good.

459
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's like I think that's part of it. You know,

460
00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 5: it's not just missing good players. Obviously, you want your

461
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 5: good players out there, but it's the trickle down a fact.

462
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: It just was weird, Like they kept on having toanga

463
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 3: I try to shoot the backside gap and he would

464
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 3: just shoot the gap get washed out, and then nobody

465
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: would take his spot, like and so then the a

466
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 3: gap was just left uncovered. And I was just like

467
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you, like without being in the meeting

468
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 3: and knowing the calls and all, like, I don't know

469
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 3: what was supposed to happen. It just wasn't happening. And

470
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: like the linebackers were just seemed, you know, like they

471
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 3: were just getting reached by the lineman CLI up to

472
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 3: the second level and you know, they were just getting bullied.

473
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: And I just I don't know if that if you're

474
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 3: better on your details and you come in with the

475
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 3: right mentality of stopping the run, like in theory, you

476
00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: should do better about that, but who knows, Like, you know,

477
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: all last year it was the same thing and they

478
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 3: just didn't have the personnel to stop it.

479
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 5: I've always felt the best way to stop a really

480
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 5: good running game is by scoring, because that makes the

481
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 5: running game uncomfortable.

482
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Speaker 7: Yep, you know, and.

483
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Speaker 5: Theoretically, you know, my theory takes a big hit Sunday

484
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 5: because theoretically you did that, like you get a.

485
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: Twenty one, you completely stopped.

486
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 7: But that should eliminate completely.

487
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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is, when you get up twenty one nothing,

488
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 5: you shouldn't be able to continue to run the ball

489
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 5: and get back in the game. And Buffalo did. Yeah,

490
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 5: but you know they were able to. You know, give

491
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Speaker 5: them credit. They stayed patient enough with it because they

492
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 5: probably feel like they have.

493
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Speaker 2: To, you know, but they did it and so quickly,

494
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: just you know, like the time, you know, in their

495
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: first two drives. Now they're down by one score, so

496
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: now they can stick to the run, you.

497
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 5: Know, But they weren't. They were still down by two scores.

498
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 5: After they scored twice, twenty four to fourteen. I give

499
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Speaker 5: them credit for they scored.

500
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Speaker 2: It was twenty four to seven going into the second half, right, Yeah,

501
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 2: then they scored twice unanswered to make it all.

502
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 7: It's the fourth quarter, it's quarter. It was the first March.

503
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 7: They scored twice in the third quarter, twice in the fourth.

504
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: It was the first two drives of the third quarter

505
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 2: that they got within one score.

506
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

507
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 5: I think most teams down twenty one nothing aren't going

508
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 5: to pound James Cook away at you.

509
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: They did.

510
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Speaker 7: I give them credit for that.

511
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 2: Well, I think if we if we had scored coming out.

512
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 5: And we actually said thank.

513
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 2: You, you know what I'm talking.

514
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 5: Well, I just don't think it's accurate. I give them credit.

515
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 7: I do.

516
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 5: I don't think most teams would continue to pound James

517
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 5: Cook between the tackles.

518
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: They were able to do it because we didn't when

519
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 2: we had the.

520
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 7: Ball, right.

521
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 5: That's why I said the best defense the running game

522
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 5: is an offense.

523
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: Right.

524
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 7: But my theory took a hit on Sunday.

525
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it didn't work. Actually, stick it up for you.

526
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: They stopped scoring, and the Bill sub we got this offense.

527
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: Now we can stick to our run. And it was

528
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: you know, throw to score, run to win. They couldn't

529
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: run to win either. You know that's part of it too.

530
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean I still think, like had the Patriots sustained

531
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: some of that throwing and scoring into the third quarter,

532
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: that they might have still won it in spite of

533
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: allowing those yards. So, I mean, I still think your

534
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 1: theory about that is ex accurate.

535
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 5: It's if you think it'd be different this week, because

536
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 5: I don't think Lamar is is Lamar right, yeah, yeah, no,

537
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 5: Josh Allen, you know if you could rip off, you know,

538
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 5: so I say that I don't. I don't like their

539
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 5: chances the Ravens, like in a drop back game. Normally

540
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 5: I would be fine with that, even though I don't

541
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Speaker 5: think that's great because Lamar can drop back, you know,

542
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 5: fifteen plays in a row, and he might get a

543
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 5: twenty five yard run or two in some of those dropbacks.

544
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 5: I don't think he can do that, right, I just

545
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 5: look at his numbers. Is you know, he's only average

546
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 5: in five and a half yards of carry. That's a

547
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 5: really low number for him. Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised

548
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 5: if that's a career low number. That's another one, and

549
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 5: I won't check it.

550
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 7: I'll just go with it.

551
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 3: And they also don't run him. Are aren't running him

552
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: as much by design because they don't want to risk it,

553
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 3: you know. So there's that angle of it too. But

554
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: I give Buffalo a lot of credit as well, because

555
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 3: I thought it was really telling that they came out

556
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 3: of halftime running because they kind of know that that

557
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 3: right now is there. That's how Okay, let's get control

558
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 3: of this game. Very first play of the second half

559
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: is outside zone to James Cook, like it wasn't let's

560
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: drop back Allen right like, and he's a great player,

561
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 3: but like it does seem like Buffalo right now is

562
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: like our run game is the best thing that we

563
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: have going. Yeah, and they in order to settle that

564
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: game down, they went to James Cook. They didn't go

565
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: to Josh Allen.

566
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it made stay balanced. But I'd also say that

567
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the key plays were Josh Allen just

568
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: doing Josh Allen things with you know, the fourth down throws,

569
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know it's yeah, I think they

570
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: just they stay balanced. I don't think they you don't necessarily.

571
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean you're right, like they know what their identity is.

572
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: And I think that's really hard to do, especially when

573
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: you're chasing, and it's i mean, it's something we talk

574
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: about with the Patriots sometimes where it's like just staying

575
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: balanced enough so that you're you know, staying balanced, you know,

576
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: running enough so that you're staying balanced, especially in the

577
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: second half. But you know a lot of different ways

578
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: you can solve that problem. Just score or be able

579
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: to run the ball yourself, or just sustain a possession

580
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: for five minutes you know, it's.

581
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm counting on this game. I'm counting

582
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: on a bounce back game from Drake May. I'm counting

583
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: on them putting up, you know, over that twenty whatever

584
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: threshold that they need to beat this team.

585
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I do think that there's you know, I

586
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 3: think he'll have opportunities to throw the ball on say night,

587
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: because I don't think their pass rush is particularly good,

588
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: and in order to get pass rush, they kind of

589
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: need to scheme it up and they need to blitz.

590
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: So if you're going up against Drake, I think that's

591
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: a tough way to live.

592
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 4: Now.

593
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: You mentioned it's going to be a little mild. Uh

594
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: that's during the day. It is going to be below

595
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: freezing at night.

596
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: Once against to the night. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that

597
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: thing is starting to bug me.

598
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: That's okay, okay, the whole playing in the cold thing.

599
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 3: It's such a small sample size, right, Like, can we

600
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: give it more than like one or two games?

601
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,360
Speaker 2: Are people definitively saying he can or are they wondering.

602
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: The people are at the point now where he's a

603
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 3: or we're trending towards bad bad weather.

604
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: Quarterback, You've got a refresher timeline. You need a timeline refreshure.

605
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: It's not just my timeline. We have people calling into

606
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: the show on catch two. Yeah, and like I just

607
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 3: I'm going to kind of like throw out his rookie

608
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 3: season because that teams stunk. Yeah, and so like I'm

609
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: not going to hold it against him that he didn't

610
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 3: like they got their doors blown off of them by

611
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: the Chargers when it was cold out Like that's that

612
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: was one good team versus one bad team.

613
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 7: I would totally agree with that.

614
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: So he's really played like one truly cold weather game

615
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: and it was last week. So because he played one

616
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 3: bad game against really one bad half against Buffalo. Now

617
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: he's a bad cold weather quarterback.

618
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 7: Wasn't he kind of cold in the Giants game?

619
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean pretty.

620
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 7: Well in that one.

621
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna need a little bit more of a sample.

622
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

623
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: Funny what comes out of the woodwork and you lose

624
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: one game and all of a sudden.

625
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 7: You and that's a problem.

626
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: That's a problem. That's a problem. You're a problem as a.

627
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 5: Need to identify the thing that cost them the victory,

628
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 5: right for Patriots fans is generally the officials, but there

629
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 5: has to be one thing that costs you a game.

630
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 7: It can never be the other team did something.

631
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: No, And it's just as extreme on the other end,

632
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: when you're in the wind streak and it's like you're awesome,

633
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: You're awesome, this is awesome, and I was like, no,

634
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: you suck Now, everything's the best. Yeah, it's extreme. I like,

635
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean I was upset, like you were Fred in

636
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: the postgame show. But I think you know, after you realize,

637
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: like what a great season this has been, and they

638
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: still have an opportunity to do everything you know that

639
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: they wanted to that you expect that they should be

640
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: able to at the end of the season. Like, it's

641
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: it's hard they I mean, we've said all season long,

642
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: they've got a ways to go. We saw this team

643
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: in the you know, early on in the season saying

644
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: they need some other upgrades of other positions on defense,

645
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: especially where you know they're putting guys into stop gaps

646
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: right now, And I think that was what was exposed

647
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: against a good team. Yeah, nothing's really changed.

648
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: Every team has injuries. It's a it's a fact of

649
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: life in the NFL. You have to have serviceable depth,

650
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,959
Speaker 2: you have to be able to withstand this, you know,

651
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: other than your quarterback, you have to be.

652
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: I will give them some credit though, I think their

653
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: depth has been a little bit better than what we thought.

654
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 3: Like Darien low has been fine. Like he's I had

655
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 3: no problem, but he's not a difference maker, but like

656
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 3: he's been really serviceable. The false start was tough, tough, but.

657
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: All start.

658
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 5: But the two games that that those backups played, you know,

659
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 5: statistically or as good as any game they've played all year. Yeah,

660
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 5: I mean some people have said that the two best

661
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: games in terms of the pressure rate allowed. But I'm

662
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 5: just going by my my eyeball test. I thought they

663
00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 5: were fine.

664
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Speaker 3: I thought this is one of the best games they

665
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: played against Buffalo. I mean, they ran the ball well

666
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: for the whole game, really if they just didn't run

667
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: it in the second half. And they protected Drake pretty

668
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: well in this game too. So uh, you know, I

669
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: think a lot of people if you told him that,

670
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: like Venderian Lowe is gonna have to start the last

671
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: five games the regular season, they'd be like, look out,

672
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: Like oh god. And to his credit, he's been okay.

673
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: Some of the comments about him are just outright nasty.

674
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: I mean before this game, yeah, yeah, yeah.

675
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: I mean, he was bad last year, but he's been better.

676
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: You know, I think that I don't think that he's

677
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 3: a full time player, but I think Jack Gibbons is

678
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: like a serviceable third linebacker. I don't think you want

679
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: him out there one hundred percent of the snaps, but

680
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 3: you know, when you have to play him in spots.

681
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a liability to the Chargers.

682
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: Wouldn't give right right trading for guards to make tackles,

683
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: like you know, it's I mean, I just when you

684
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: really heard about how extreme the injury was that he's

685
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: playing through last year with you know, on his shoulder,

686
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: and people were like, oh, I feel bad now, I'm.

687
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Like, well, what guy was walking around with a harness

688
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: older harness on and stuff. Chucky trees not terrible for

689
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 3: the you know, couple of drives that he had to

690
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 3: play against Buffalo. You know, so at least it's been

691
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: a little bit better maybe than what we expect. You

692
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: Ben Brown, Ben Brown.

693
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 5: You guys have raised good points. I think that they

694
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: have gotten some contributions from some of the reserves that

695
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 5: everybody was so worried about.

696
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: Should they try to get the wide receivers plural involved

697
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: early in this game.

698
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: I try I mean, yeah, I would just say, like,

699
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if we talked about this a lot yesterday,

700
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: but I thought it was kind of weird that Pop

701
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: Douglas barely played in the game on Sunday, especially because

702
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: they're having so much issues with guys getting open in

703
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: the second half of that game. Now, I think a

704
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: lot of it was because they were like disguising his

705
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: own and that's like not really his strength. But he

706
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: ran five routes the entire game, and like, when you

707
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: can't move the ball on offense and he's your best

708
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: a separator, like, did not at least give him some

709
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: opportunities to go out there and win some routes was

710
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 3: pretty surprising. I don't know how much you're going to

711
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 3: get out of Holland's booty and digs. Like I think

712
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: that those guys they each kind of have their moments

713
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: and they each have their games and things like that.

714
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: But I don't know if like you can expect much

715
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: more from those players. But the Douglas thing did surprise me,

716
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: Like I thought that, you know, in the second half,

717
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: they maybe they could have used his energy a little bit.

718
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely always heard that while.

719
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 5: He threw it out there Sunday when there were people

720
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 5: sort of giving Mike a little bit of you like

721
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 5: this f you know, if Spoline wasn't going to play,

722
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 5: why was he dressed? They could address someone and I

723
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 5: was just like, well, who was inactive in the game

724
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 5: that you think would have made a difference in Frank

725
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: goes chism.

726
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah it doz ones are always hard because

727
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't think they really planned on him playing, but

728
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: you could tell in warmups he wasn't right, But then

729
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: in actives have already happened, so you there's no choice.

730
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: What about this?

731
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 5: Well, I think that they looked at it and said,

732
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 5: if something happens here to Ellis or Gibbons, I need

733
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 5: to He's going to need to play, and hopefully we

734
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: won't need him to play. But you weigh that, Okay,

735
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 5: So what would need to have happened to have to,

736
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 5: you know, press Marcus Bryant into play? You know, so

737
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 5: now two of your tackles need to get hurt for

738
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 5: you to need another tackle, right, because you know they

739
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 5: had obviosusally Monfort it was had a role, a big

740
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: role in the game. Yeah, you know, so, Eric Gregory

741
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 5: I think was one of the inactives. Chisholm. I mean,

742
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 5: you're down six, you know. I think they weighed and

743
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 5: they looked at it. We have a better chance of

744
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 5: one guy getting banged up at linebacker, a very physical position,

745
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 5: than needing a third, you know, extra tackle.

746
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, to that point, they sign Chad Muma off of

747
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: the practice squad in Indie. I don't know if that

748
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: signals splaying is going to be a long term thing.

749
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: We weren't quite look at what we got Eli. I mean,

750
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: it's definitely not a great sign But is it about

751
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: the guys who were playing, or is it about we're

752
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: protecting those guys because they're going to have to continue

753
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: to play more if one of them gets hurt, we

754
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: need to have, you know, another NFL experienced player.

755
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: But really, I'm able to pointed to the linebacker debth

756
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: like he admitted on Monday that they don't have a

757
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: lot of depth.

758
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 7: Specifically, it's probably one of the thinner positions. I don't

759
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 7: know exactly the wording, but.

760
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: I do wonder if I didn't. I don't know off

761
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: the top of my head, but Ellis and Jack Gibbons

762
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: usually have large roles on special teams as well as defense.

763
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: So I do wonder if maybe can play in the

764
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: kicking game and that would take Ellis out of the

765
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: kicking game, and then that would allow Ellis to just

766
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: focus on playing on defense.

767
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: That's a good observation too.

768
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know you had a tough day in kick coverage.

769
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 5: Is that because just the guys that are on the

770
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 5: kick coverage team had to play more snaps on defense?

771
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 7: That's a very fair question.

772
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: Do you think, going back to the Bills, if all

773
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: the other things that happened that were negative got cleaned up,

774
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: but they still weren't able to stop the run, do

775
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 2: you think they could have won that game?

776
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 7: Yeah?

777
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So those other things seem fixable.

778
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there's a baseline of solid

779
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: that they could get to with the current personnel that

780
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: they have. Yes, And I just I'd point back to

781
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: pulse thing. I mean, to me, it's about Drake and

782
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: the offense and right they got to score points in

783
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 1: the second half.

784
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 5: That would be my Like, that's the worst, probably the

785
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 5: worst half of football they've played. I mean, you know, offensively,

786
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 5: eighteen snaps, Like, I think that's fixable. I think you

787
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 5: can be better offensively than that.

788
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: Better be better kickoff coverage than that.

789
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm saying, like, all you had to do was

790
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 5: move the ball a little bit, a little bit. They

791
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 5: didn't have to light out the school board in the

792
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 5: second half. Obviously, that would have been great if you

793
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 5: could have put another seventeen on the board in the

794
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 5: second half. But if you just possessed the ball for

795
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: five minutes in a chunk, yeah, you take the other

796
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 5: team's will.

797
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

798
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 5: You know they're looking up at the clock and there

799
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 5: are not enough possessions left here.

800
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: Then they start having to throw right.

801
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, just looking at the linebacker snaps. So Jack

802
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: Gibbons played seventy snaps one hundred percent of the snaps

803
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: on defense. He also played nineteen snaps on special teams.

804
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: So he played eighty nine snaps in the game.

805
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: And then there you go.

806
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 3: Ellis had sixty on defense and eight on special teams.

807
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 3: So the Muma thing to me is like, let's try

808
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: to get those guys.

809
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 7: Plug him into one of those coverage unions, yeah, and.

810
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: Try to get Jack Gibbons off as many special teams

811
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 3: more than Ellis. He did. He played every snap because

812
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: he wore there has.

813
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 7: Been playing more than elus for a while.

814
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 3: He also wore the green dot, so that's probably why

815
00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: he was playing.

816
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 7: It's a great point called the defense, all right, that's

817
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 7: why we.

818
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: Have him, all right, So let's get people involved unless

819
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: there's other things that we need to bring up.

820
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: Any talk about the thing. Yeah, that's crazy? Is benching?

821
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 2: That is wild?

822
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

823
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: So what does that mean? Paul? Explain this to me?

824
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, you're good.

825
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: Are they even this guy a shot?

826
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Are they done with tour? They just like, what's the

827
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: point where let's get him rested up and get them

828
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: ready for next year? Like, what what does this mean?

829
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 7: I think it's A and B. It's not C.

830
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 5: I think they're done with Tua. Let's give someone else

831
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: a shot. Let's make sure he doesn't get hurt, because

832
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: we're gonna get rid of him.

833
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

834
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 7: If we can't.

835
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 5: Now, the money situation is is messy. But if the

836
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 5: Broncos could do what they did with Russell Wilson, then yeah,

837
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 5: certainly Miami. The question for me with Miami will be

838
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 5: is this a package deal? Is everybody gone or is

839
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: this McDaniel winning out? Because clearly McDaniel's done with Tua. Yeah,

840
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 5: I didn't watch the game at all the other night,

841
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 5: but evidently there was some really weird things going on

842
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 5: to his body language was time outs and stuff like

843
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 5: j well that's what Waddle was kind of like, looking

844
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 5: like dude, what are you doing?

845
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 2: Yeah?

846
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: And I even think that the approach I saw a

847
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: lot of criticism of like, are you guys trying to

848
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: win the game? You're trying to run the clock out?

849
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing? Like it just didn't seem

850
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: like they had There was one moment did you watch

851
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: the game? I watched the first half. Did you see

852
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: the part.

853
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: Where it was two on the bench and it looked

854
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: like he was looking right at the camera for like

855
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: an extended period of time.

856
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: Did you say that?

857
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: Did he get hit?

858
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: And it was really weird?

859
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 7: And I'm asking dead seriously.

860
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 2: I mean not that I saw, not like maybe he

861
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: was dealing with So yeah, yeah, it is history.

862
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 7: It's a fair question.

863
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: So I brought this to Barth, but maybe I didn't

864
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 3: explain it very well. To me. It's kind of weird

865
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: that you would let Mike McDaniel bench to a right

866
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: if Mike McDaniel is also out right you like.

867
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 5: Like why you understand what I'm saying, Like, if Mike

868
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 5: McDaniel is benching your star quarterback that's getting paid fifty

869
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 5: six million dollars, Like, that's a pretty big organizational decision

870
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 5: for a lame duck coach to be making.

871
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: So unless he's hurt, and we just don't know yet

872
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: that he's hurt, like a performance bace for him, right, Yeah,

873
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 3: like a performance based benching is is burning a bridge.

874
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: In my opinion, it's pro sports, like you do that

875
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: to a quarterback of to his like you know, name recognition,

876
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: like I don't know how to do him and Mike

877
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: McDaniel come back from that. And so if Mike McDaniel

878
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: is going to be the coaster next year, then how

879
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: the hell is to us much?

880
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 5: I'm not telling you there's no chance, but I don't

881
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 5: think there's much of a chance of that happening both

882
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: of them coming back.

883
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's either both are gone or to his.

884
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: God rid of Jude on to Tyreek Hill would have

885
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: a cryptic post on social media, just a meme of

886
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: like two people and then one just disappears, I think,

887
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: retweeting that they were benching to us. So I don't

888
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: know what that means get into Tyreek's health attact.

889
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 7: I think they're gonna work.

890
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 5: Listen, the whole like second act for quarterback thing I

891
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 5: think is pretty and I think a lot of teams

892
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 5: now are looking hard.

893
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: You know.

894
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 5: I read something on ESPN dot com today about, you know,

895
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 5: Mac Jones. You know, does he's under contract for San

896
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: Francisco very small money? Did Kyle Shanahan do it again?

897
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 5: Did he resurrect another career because he played pretty well?

898
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 5: I you know, I'm listen. I'm as critical of Mac

899
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: Jones as anybody, but I would tell you he played

900
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 5: pretty well in in place of property. You know, does

901
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: someone you know, Arizona, the Jets, Miami, do one of

902
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: these teams look at Mac Jones and say, maybe he

903
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 5: can be our Sam Darnold and his second act might

904
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,959
Speaker 5: be able to do something for us, you know, while

905
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 5: we figure out how we're going to.

906
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 7: Get the next quarterback.

907
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: That's a tough one.

908
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 7: It is a very tough one.

909
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: Mac.

910
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 5: I agree, yeah, because I was trying to think about

911
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 5: May Yeah, you.

912
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 7: Know in Arizona, is he going to go somewhere?

913
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: I was trying to think of, like where too it

914
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: would make sense, and like he kind of has to

915
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 3: be in that kind of offense. It's like a timing base,

916
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 3: like get the ball out quick, you know, hit yack

917
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 3: receivers like that sort of got to be the offense.

918
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: And like there aren't a ton of options because a

919
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 3: lot of those teams, like unless party's going like they

920
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: a lot of those teams have quarterbacks that you know

921
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: they're they're running with at this point. So you know,

922
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: like you have Green Bay, you have you know, San Francisco,

923
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: you have La with the Rams, like those are the

924
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: that's the offense, that's the tree. But all those teams

925
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: kind of have established quarterbacks, like already there Minnesota, if

926
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 3: they're good, are they giving up on nine?

927
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 4: Is he?

928
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: Is he done already? It's a good one.

929
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good one.

930
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: On that well, I mean he's played better, I would

931
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 5: say the last two games. And I don't think that

932
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 5: you can completely pull the plug. But I'm also not

933
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: saying they ain't gonna pull the plug. I think they

934
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 5: I think they wanted to have one of those two

935
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 5: guys stay last year. I think they wanted to have

936
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 5: Donald or Jones stay in both of them, I think

937
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 5: correctly said I'm not staying I'm gonna go and try

938
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 5: to be a starter somewhere, right.

939
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: I still just feel like two is one hit away,

940
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: and that's it's hard to take a second chance on him.

941
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: Or I mean even Kyler Murray too. You know what,

942
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: Donald has the size and I mean we had concussions too,

943
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: But those guys are always going to get beat up,

944
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: it seems like. And that interception that two of three

945
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: the other night, I mean I was like, oh my god,

946
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: this is not you know, we're used to that.

947
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 7: I miss quite an eventful game.

948
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 2: You talk about what you miss.

949
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I just I don't know where Miami goes

950
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: from here and their division team. So it's you know,

951
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: at least somewhat irrelevant to the Patriots because they won

952
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 3: some games. So they're not going to be picking in

953
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: the top five, like, so they're not going to be

954
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 3: in the like Mendoza, you know, that sort of sweepstakes necessarily,

955
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: it's not a great quarterback class, Like do they reclamation

956
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: projected for a year? And see, I guess maybe, but

957
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: like the two of things over like, so that's why I.

958
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 7: Would say queen Ewers, Yeah, oh god, I know what

959
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 7: you think of qu Ewers. I'm not going to try.

960
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 5: I'm not going to trigger you, but let him play

961
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 5: three games and see what it looks like, and then

962
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 5: you can sort of say, okay, do I need to

963
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 5: get really aggressive in the draft to try to move

964
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 5: up to get I don't know, Drew Aller or someone

965
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 5: you know, or do I just look at it, like

966
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 5: Evan just said, like, you know, this isn't a great class,

967
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: let's not force it. If he's got to be our quarterback,

968
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 5: if we can get one of the you know, could

969
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 5: they go with Kyler Murray, could they get one of

970
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 5: the second act quarterbacks and just say, well, he's going

971
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: to be the placeholder. You know, we got this young

972
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 5: guy that we don't we don't think he's that good,

973
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 5: but let him play three games.

974
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 7: Who knows what happens.

975
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that the reclamation project is probably

976
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: where it's headed. Some people like the kid from Oregon

977
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: quarterback in the draft. You know, a lot of the

978
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 3: arch went back, Leonora Sellers.

979
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 7: Went back, just going back.

980
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Mendoz is awesome, but he's going to

981
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 3: probably go number one overall and there not going to

982
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: have that.

983
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 7: Pick son be around from Miami.

984
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's not a it's not a Drake Maye

985
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels Caleb Williams situation where there's you know,

986
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 3: a bunch of great quarterbacks in the draft.

987
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: How can Mike McDaniel be the last man standing of

988
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: Chris Career and Tua and maybe Tyreek And you know,

989
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: like that's interesting to me, especially what he done.

990
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 5: And I think I told you guys this story earlier

991
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 5: in the year that you know, I had some people

992
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 5: talking to me about the way, you know, the problems

993
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: in Miami. It's not because they don't think McDaniel knows

994
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: what he's doing. They think he's a pretty good coach,

995
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 5: but they think he's too easy on the players, and

996
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 5: it's almost like he's just the head coach of the offense.

997
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 5: He's one of those situations. Yeah, And I guess with

998
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 5: some of the static that that's been created because Anthony

999
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 5: Weaver is you know, he's an actual football coach, and

1000
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 5: he treats the defense, you know, like men, and like

1001
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 5: they practice and like they'll be like a random Thursday

1002
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 5: and Daniel will be like, oh.

1003
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 7: Okay, you guys have done enough, go home.

1004
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 5: And now the defense is working their asses off and

1005
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 5: the offense gets to go home.

1006
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 7: You can't do that.

1007
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: I think they have like summer fridays on the like

1008
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: on the offense where it's like they all get to

1009
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: leave at three for like mental health and family purposes,

1010
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: and which is like a nice idea, but it's like

1011
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: professional football, like you gotta.

1012
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 5: And Weaver is like, no, we're not, we can't do that.

1013
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 5: We're not ready, you know what It's like. It's not

1014
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: like McDaniel only does it for the offense. He wants

1015
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 5: everybody to do it. But Weavers like, we're not prepared

1016
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 5: for the game yet. We need to practice more. Yeah,

1017
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 5: and the and the defense gets sort of you know,

1018
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 5: it's that obvious rift they get.

1019
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1020
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: I think it's always harder with the guys like well

1021
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: McDaniel because he's such a good coordinator on the offensive

1022
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: side of the ball that like you're not going to

1023
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: do better in terms of scheme than him. But he

1024
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 3: just might not be.

1025
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 7: It might not be a head coach. He'd be one

1026
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 7: of those guys.

1027
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 5: And I know it's rare, but like, find a head

1028
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 5: coach and then retain him as your offensive coordinator. And

1029
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 5: I don't think that would be the worst thing. And

1030
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 5: look advance Joseph has been doing in Denver.

1031
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know you can go home again.

1032
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 5: You know everybody was would be like automatically like, but

1033
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 5: that doesn't the time.

1034
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 7: You can't fire the guy and you know then keep.

1035
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 5: Them well somebody, some some teams do it. Virginia Tech

1036
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: is doing it in college. They fired the head coach

1037
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 5: and he stay. He's staying with Franklin as his coordinator.

1038
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: Uh spiing Fresno get which side of the ball. So

1039
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 5: that's why I just said, going back.

1040
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: To the Patriots. Uh Spian Fresno says, Drake had the

1041
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: ball in his hands with two minutes to go in

1042
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: a one score game for the division and then completely

1043
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 2: fizzled and two consecutive pathetic, pathetic looking passing plays. Does

1044
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 2: it have you concern? I'm not asking for two minute Tom,

1045
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: but so far in clutch, big game comeback situations, we

1046
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: have to call Drake oh and one. The truth is

1047
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: never mean.

1048
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 3: One in one because he beat the Bills in week five.

1049
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 5: Really, just like I put this in the weather category,

1050
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 5: like I need to see a little more before I

1051
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 5: decide that a guy fails in those situations.

1052
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Existantly, give me a couple.

1053
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I think that some of this kind

1054
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 3: of does stem from the fact though, that this was

1055
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 3: sort of his mL at North Carolina also, and I'm

1056
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: not ignoring it, Yeah, And I think that that's where

1057
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: the sample is growing, is that at North Carolina he

1058
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: was undeniably talented and they didn't win a whole lot,

1059
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: and it was like kind of one of those weird

1060
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 3: situations of like, how does this guy play so well

1061
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 3: in these games? And we look up at the scoreboard

1062
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 3: and we're down by ten points in the fourth quarter,

1063
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: Like how does this keep happening? Now seems like Rabel

1064
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 3: and McDaniels have corrected that aspect of they're eleven and three,

1065
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 3: But you know those big games NC State, you know,

1066
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: end of the year, you know, rivalry games, like I

1067
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: think he'd beat Duke his uh sophomore season, his first

1068
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: season as the starter, they beat Duke. And that's like

1069
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: his signature win at North Carolina was beating Duke. So

1070
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: I get it.

1071
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: It's something to watch all these last four games. I mean,

1072
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: I've said it a few times now. I look at

1073
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: before the buys its own preseason kind of thing, and

1074
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, now, let's judge him in these games. I mean,

1075
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: maybe not so much against the Jets, but you know this,

1076
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: this game in Baltimore is another opportunity for him, and

1077
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: then they're probably going to the playoffs too, so but

1078
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 1: you got to break the trend at some point.

1079
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: Joe and Michigan ten wins and a loss and McDaniels

1080
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 2: can't call plays a top five D and scoring can't

1081
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: do their job anymore, May can't play in weather, Buffalo

1082
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: d becomes a new coming of the Dita Bears. Really,

1083
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: I am exaggerating, but so does the Boston media, nauseating

1084
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: Tom Curran and the rest who are sensationalizing. I haven't listened.

1085
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: Is he sensationalizing?

1086
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 3: I don't know. I heard, and I don't know if

1087
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 3: this was Tom. I heard some chatter yesterday about mcdaniels's

1088
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: longevity as Mike Rable's offensive coordinator, and this goes back

1089
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: like this is not new, like the ten game winning

1090
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: streat kind of put it on the back burner. But

1091
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 3: in September this was a conversation as well, and now

1092
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: they lost the game, so it's coming back up.

1093
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 7: But I don't think it's performance based.

1094
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 5: I think it's personality based that whole thing that was

1095
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 5: big earlier in the year, that like, is this the

1096
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 5: guy that Rabel really wanted? That's what people in this

1097
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: particular one that I think the reason why it bubbled

1098
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 5: back up is from Mike's appearance in this studio on

1099
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 5: EI on Monday when he goes, I mean like, there's

1100
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 5: only so many double passages you can run for thirteen yards,

1101
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: you know like that, those kinds of comments, I think

1102
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 5: some people an I know, but I wasn't on the air, Mike.

1103
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 5: I say this all the time. Sometimes you say things

1104
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 5: off for.

1105
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: You that I meant to be off where the line is, uh.

1106
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 5: I can say it with the head coach saying I

1107
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 5: remember off as kind of snark.

1108
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: I remember earlier in the season he Rabel said that

1109
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 3: he was going to regret doing EI first thing in

1110
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 3: the morning of the day after games, and I think

1111
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 3: this one on Monday might be in that.

1112
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 7: So you know what I'm talking.

1113
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that couple of officials.

1114
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: Are people implying that Mike Rabele would fire Josh McDaniels

1115
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: after this season.

1116
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 7: No, I don't think we.

1117
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 3: I don't think we've gotten that far. But I think

1118
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 3: I think Paul's shows have been big on what Paul

1119
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 3: just said.

1120
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 5: And they're definitely hammering it because I can tell you

1121
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 5: the pre show emails are about that.

1122
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: Is it an arranged marriage between McDaniels.

1123
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: So even if he didn't want any he's worked out,

1124
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: but he would so how like and you get rid

1125
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: of Josh McDaniels and you bring in the flavor of

1126
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: the month thinks he's the offensive coordinator and Drake regresses

1127
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: and the offense Isn't they take this magical?

1128
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 3: This is notation? Yeah, this is not logical.

1129
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 7: You're not logic to that.

1130
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: This is don this is crazy crazy.

1131
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: It's one of those things if you're just going off

1132
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 5: of the performance. I don't there's no need to even

1133
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 5: discuss this. Yeah, they've had a second year quarterback who's

1134
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 5: played at an m VP level for fourteen games. Like,

1135
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 5: we're not discussing this. The question is none of us

1136
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 5: has the answer to it. Does Rabel really want him?

1137
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 5: And if that's the case, I don't think that he

1138
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 5: would fire him. I don't think that there's any chance

1139
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 5: of that. But would Josh recognize that I'm not really wanted?

1140
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 5: He didn't really want me? And he makes it clear

1141
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 5: at every stop that he doesn't really want me and

1142
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: he just goes somewhere else.

1143
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 7: That would be my only concern. I don't think that's

1144
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 7: going to happen.

1145
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 5: I think he'll be here as the offensive coordinator next year,

1146
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 5: and I think he's done a remarkably good job.

1147
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: Do you think there's generally, though, always a little bit

1148
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: of tention when you have a defensive head coach who

1149
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: like Mike Brabel, who is a defensive guy, and like,

1150
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: you know how defensive guys talk about the offense, like

1151
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: not that they don't respect them, but there's always that like, oh,

1152
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: the pretty boys on offense kind of thing.

1153
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 4: You know.

1154
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 7: We used to say Bill hates quarterback.

1155
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah right right, well the same thing.

1156
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: You know, people have noticed that in these postgame things,

1157
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 2: he's yet to give Drake may a ball.

1158
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: You know.

1159
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: It's like, so, I don't know, maybe that's just his

1160
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: way of coaching the offense.

1161
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 3: He's going to get one of those like the offense,

1162
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 3: it's dipsy, dude, we're in the lab, then we're cooking

1163
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 3: the defensive guys like Mike McDaniel's like somebody you.

1164
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 5: Know, and I'll say, if we want to like so,

1165
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 5: and I didn't see the entirety of like the transcript

1166
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 5: of what he said or Ei I saw like everybody else.

1167
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 7: I'm listening to these clips, these bites.

1168
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 10: And that.

1169
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 7: So how unfair would it be if you.

1170
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 5: Looked at that and said, well, I mean, there's only

1171
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 5: so many double passes you can run for thirteen yards?

1172
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 5: Like really might so the first half offensive performance, that

1173
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 5: was your takeaway, a meaningless double pass that the crowd.

1174
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: May have went, he got ten yards on it.

1175
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 5: But how about like the two quarterback design runs in

1176
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 5: the red zone, how about the thirty yard bomb down

1177
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 5: the sideline to Booty. How about the fifty two yard

1178
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 5: run which couldn't have been designed, executed and run any

1179
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 5: better from an efficiency standpoint. Offensively, I would venture to

1180
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 5: say that all eleven guys were perfect on that play. Like,

1181
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 5: how about that if you're going to talk about the

1182
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 5: offensive performance and not like a semi meaning was trick

1183
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 5: play that you know obviously you're dialing up looking for

1184
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 5: a big play. It wasn't there when he checked it down.

1185
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know what I mean?

1186
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 5: And I'm not suggesting that Mike was. I just think

1187
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: sometimes yeah, well, get a little bit ahead of you

1188
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 5: over your skis, and I think Evan's right. Sometimes maybe

1189
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 5: you shouldn't do those first things.

1190
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 11: Right.

1191
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: Well, this is veriable style, right, and like Bill would,

1192
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: Bill would never you know, blame positive anything. You know,

1193
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: it was all just it could be better. But I

1194
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: think veriable sometimes this is how he is.

1195
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 5: You know, ahead, you'll do what Bill would do. Bill

1196
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 5: would do the same message, just in this way. Yeah,

1197
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 5: but I run fifty two yards? That's pretty you know what,

1198
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 5: you know what's unsaid.

1199
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 7: You know what's unseating?

1200
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 10: Yea.

1201
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 7: How hard is it to call that?

1202
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 5: He wouldn't have said that, but that's the tone he would.

1203
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 5: How hard is it to run?

1204
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 3: When he went on touch for fifty two yards? I

1205
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 3: mean anybody could have done that.

1206
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 7: Quarterback didn't open heart surgeon.

1207
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, these are the things that you said. He's disdaining

1208
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 5: for offense was obvious for anybody who was listening.

1209
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeahs Also the top five scoring defense thing, right, we

1210
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 3: all know that this defense ain't top five all right?

1211
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 7: Currently top five?

1212
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's still top five after last week.

1213
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: I think five five Pats, five hundred Dans in New Jersey?

1214
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: What's up Dan?

1215
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: Hey?

1216
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 3: Guys?

1217
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 10: So you know, regardless of what happens on Sunday, and

1218
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 10: I've kind of you know, I was thinking we gotta win,

1219
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 10: but now I'm not so sure because what do we

1220
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 10: have to get. Let's say we lose and we have

1221
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 10: to beat Gosh, Brady Cook and Zach Wilson back to back.

1222
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 7: Quin yours.

1223
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so your point stands.

1224
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,479
Speaker 2: No, No, I just I just want to win.

1225
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 7: Jets Dolphins. They have to win. To me, we don't

1226
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 7: lose Sunday. They have to beat the Jets and the Dolphins.

1227
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: I want, I want a quality win. This would be

1228
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 2: a quality.

1229
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: Win and it would clinch a playoffs spot, which is

1230
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 3: not the division, but it's Sunday night football. You win

1231
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 3: against a good team.

1232
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 7: Everyone.

1233
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: I want to be two and two coming out of

1234
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: the by you know.

1235
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. I think all of those

1236
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: points and even the two wins. Are you a Jets

1237
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: team that is completely crumbling?

1238
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: And Miami, Yeah, they beat the Jagtars with an interim headcut.

1239
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to tiptoe to

1240
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I want to sprint.

1241
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that said. I'm sorry, I'll let them finish.

1242
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 10: But yeah, yeah, I just had a question if if so,

1243
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 10: coming off a tough loss like that, and of course

1244
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 10: they could always lose in the wild cards for any

1245
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 10: any gives a number of reasons enumerated, you know, the

1246
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 10: run stop and second half office, But coming off that loss,

1247
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 10: would you rather face the Bills again, even with all

1248
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 10: their playoff experience and Josh Allen or roll the dice

1249
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 10: with an unproved commodity, like you know, even on the

1250
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 10: road like then like cool, like like the Broncos.

1251
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: Bronco Broncos.

1252
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: The Broncos are going to have a number, are going

1253
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 5: to have is going to be the number one seed,

1254
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 5: but good reaction and at least they but at least

1255
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 5: they played in the playoffs last year. I mean, all

1256
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 5: the teams that you're going to face have more playoff experience,

1257
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 5: like recently, like even the Chargers in Houston. Houston's got

1258
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 5: a lot. Yeah, you know, Jacksonville maybe is you know

1259
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 5: they they played two years ago, right.

1260
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 3: Two or three? Trevor has played one playoff.

1261
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 5: One one and then.

1262
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 7: They lost the next one. Yeah in Kansas City, where

1263
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 7: playoff teams go to die.

1264
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I keep hearing that you don't want to

1265
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: play Houston everybody's terrified of Houston now.

1266
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm not terrified of anybody, but Houston would.

1267
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 3: Thanks Dan, you're going to You're gonna have to play

1268
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 3: somebody the game.

1269
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: I just want to get to the playoffs, and whoever

1270
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: we face, we face. If we're not a better team,

1271
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: then yeah, that's it.

1272
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: Like, I get what you're saying about the Chargers because

1273
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 3: they're so decimated, but like, if they made the playoffs,

1274
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: the team that you're playing is going to be pretty good, like.

1275
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: At the time, like, no question about it.

1276
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: Well, and this this year because you're not going to

1277
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 3: play Pittsburgh, so.

1278
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 7: You can't play at Pittsburgh.

1279
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 5: That's the only team that but that's the only non

1280
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 5: playoff caliber team too.

1281
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 3: The only way that you play a team that might

1282
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: be lesser than is if Philip Rivers somehow gets the

1283
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 3: Colts into the playoffs, which he's not going to, so

1284
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 3: unless the quarterback gets hurt, you know, late in the

1285
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 3: year at some point.

1286
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 5: The Chargers, you know, when we've been talking about how

1287
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 5: decimated they are, but look at what they've done the

1288
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 5: last two games.

1289
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: Well, Herbert's just awesome.

1290
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 5: But they they took care of Philadelphia and then they

1291
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 5: took care of Kansas City. And you say what you

1292
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 5: will about how damaged Kansas City is. To be the

1293
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 5: one that actually put the knife in the heart and

1294
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 5: ended it, that's not an easy win at Kansas City.

1295
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 5: They had to beat them. They're the ones that had

1296
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 5: to knock them out well, and they did it.

1297
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: According to Chris Jones, he didn't know that they were

1298
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 3: eliminated from the playoffs.

1299
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: Ye, sorry about that. We can't know over it's over.

1300
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was crazy, like they had to like there's

1301
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 3: he didn't know, get on the playoff fishing machine.

1302
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: Just one game at a time, eld in North Carolina.

1303
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: It's fun, isn't it?

1304
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 9: Hey, great fellas, how y'all doing? Yeah? Two things? Uh

1305
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 9: that is going around about Rabel against McDaniels. And I'm

1306
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 9: a McDaniels guy too, but m daniels de litt his

1307
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 9: offense and excuse me, uh, Rabel's defense just stopped him

1308
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 9: five times they got in in his zone. He got

1309
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 9: a gripe. He should grape himself, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 9: Because you live a score of five touchdown, not five

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would say that Rabel was pretty critical

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Speaker 5: of the defense in the post game in fairness, I.

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Speaker 9: Mean not on the radio.

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Speaker 7: I hear the radio interview.

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Speaker 3: I agree with elder bigger point. I think he's been

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Speaker 1: Critical of the offense, you know, here and there little.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not during the ten game winning streak when things

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Speaker 7: There's been more criticism of the offense than the defense.

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Speaker 7: I would agree with that.

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Speaker 3: And the defense is the side of the ball it

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just thought that in fairness, I thought Vrabel

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Speaker 3: Is this game and the kickoff?

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard a lot of criticism of anything really.

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Speaker 7: But I mean it depends what you call criticism.

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Speaker 5: Like that comment that we're talking about about the double

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Speaker 2: I said, other other than this game before this.

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Speaker 5: find them, but I could find really several, at least

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Speaker 5: a dozen examples.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I think it hasn't happened as much recently, but

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Speaker 5: I think he was pretty critical and the the the

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Speaker 7: Quote was, right, Yeah, that was the Raiders game.

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Speaker 3: And now great moments in history to make the trade happen,

1527
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Speaker 3: But they got an all star.

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Speaker 2: When is the trade headline?

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Speaker 3: By the way, July end of July, and.

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Speaker 7: I just don't know why trading for a month and

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Speaker 7: a half.

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Speaker 2: It's a month and a half for.

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Speaker 5: Now, you don't know how calendars work. It's less than

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01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 5: a month away the trade deadline.

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01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,599
Speaker 2: He said, end of July.

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Speaker 7: Usually it's the middle of July.

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Speaker 2: But but it's the end of June.

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 5: Now it's like.

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01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 3: That's the middle of middle of June.

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01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 5: So it's less than a month away.

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Speaker 2: I said a month and a half because he said

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Speaker 2: it was the end of July.

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Speaker 7: You know, so the thirty So the thirty first is

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 7: a month and a half. Okay, okay, you're right, that's an.

1545
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 5: It's July thirty first. It's a month happen and a half.

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01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 5: Why do you have to wait till you're right? I said,

1547
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 5: it's a long time. I said, you're right, No, it's

1548
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Speaker 5: not a long time.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered eight five to

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01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 2: five past five hundred is the hotline podcast at patriots

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: dot com. Is the email address?

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Speaker 7: You win that one by t KO? Sure that was

1555
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 7: being more wrong with calendar, with calendar.

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01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: So then you jumped to the is a month and

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01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: a half a long time?

1558
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: Right?

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01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,600
Speaker 7: But I did admit that I was wrong because.

1560
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 5: All Star break was the trade deadline and it's not

1561
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 5: until Dirty first. But anyway, fun with calendars with Paul

1562
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 5: math not my strong suit.

1563
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,520
Speaker 1: That's why that's why I print my calendar out.

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 2: We got some emails about the McDaniels thing, people incredulous

1565
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: that they're making anything out this, that it'd be crazy

1566
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: to Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think I can

1567
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 2: understand if Rabel came in and had his heart set

1568
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: on whoever and there was a discussion. I don't know

1569
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 2: any of this to be true, and it turns out McDaniels,

1570
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,280
Speaker 2: I can understand. Oh, you know, I wish I had

1571
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 2: my guy. But now that it's we've gone through the season,

1572
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 2: it's worked out for everybody. It's made Mike Rabel a

1573
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: winning head coach. It's made Drake May a better uh quarterback,

1574
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 2: set up your offense for the future. Like, okay, so

1575
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: everything's good, now let's go.

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Speaker 1: I would agree, no matter who the offensive coordinator is,

1577
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 1: Babel is probably gonna tweak them with this kind of

1578
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: stuff like that, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like, that's that's rale. Okay, breaking news.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sorry there, but that's how he is you know,

1581
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 1: I mean that that line of like, you know, busting

1582
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: chops about a fake play that only got I mean,

1583
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: that's that's that's what you Arthur Smith might to do it.

1584
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part of the package for Mike Rabel. He's

1585
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: gonna be he's he's gonna work for it.

1586
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 5: But I wonder if ashion Grant called that, if we

1587
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 5: have the same reaction. But anyway, I would say those

1588
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 5: are two different things. Like you could say.

1589
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Speaker 7: That let's go to the.

1590
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: Coach going forward against the Ravens.

1591
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Speaker 17: Well, I think that what we try to do is

1592
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 17: we learn from every game, every opportunity, not just specifically

1593
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 17: the Buffalo game.

1594
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 4: There's a lot of instances throughout.

1595
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 17: The year that we've learned from and last week's game

1596
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 17: will be no different. And again here as it relates

1597
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Speaker 17: to play calling, I think every time in every game, offensively, defensively,

1598
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 17: special teams, my decisions. You know, there's always a decisions

1599
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 17: that you want to have back and you know how

1600
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 17: it could have made this better, whether that's as a

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01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 17: player or as a coach. And I've said this for

1602
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 17: as long as I've been able to say it as

1603
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 17: a head football coach, there is no perfect play.

1604
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 4: There are good perfect call. There are good calls, and

1605
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 4: there's not so good calls.

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01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 17: And again, my reason for saying this is you don't

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 17: want to have a call that gets in late. Those

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01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 17: calls that are good are they're in in a timely manner.

1609
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 17: The personnel group is in there, the players have repped it,

1610
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 17: they've seen it, they know, they have answers for things

1611
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 17: that they could do.

1612
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 4: They have answers for.

1613
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 17: Things that were unscouted, which occur in every game, and

1614
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 17: so we try to make sure that our calls that

1615
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 17: go into the players are appropriately that way. And then

1616
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 17: you know, we could always sit back after the game

1617
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 17: and say, hey, we could have done this a little differently.

1618
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 17: We could have called this again. So that's going to

1619
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 17: go for every win and every loss. We try to

1620
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 17: do it the same way as it relates to the

1621
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 17: playing and then our evaluation of what we call.

1622
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Speaker 4: So you know, I mean, there's a.

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Speaker 17: Lot of opportunities for calls to be different. There's a

1624
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 17: lot of opportunities for the execution to be different, whether

1625
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 17: the call stays the same or the.

1626
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Speaker 4: Execution you know, to that particular call.

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Speaker 17: But you know, I don't think that there's anything that

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 17: we would want to change or do differently. We don't

1629
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 17: get to do doovers. I mean, we've had a lot

1630
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Speaker 17: of success and we're going to try to get that

1631
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Speaker 17: same success on Sunday night.

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Speaker 5: Along the same line.

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01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 12: Sorry, when Drake is thrown.

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Speaker 17: And deep on third and one, having a few times

1635
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Speaker 17: at least last week, curious, First of all, how do

1636
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 17: you feel about that?

1637
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Speaker 6: And then is that like the design play or is

1638
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 6: that Drake making a redon?

1639
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Speaker 17: No, I mean, we don't, you know what I mean.

1640
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 17: We're trying to we're trying to score. We're trying to

1641
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 17: to do what we do best, and sometimes those aren't

1642
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 17: as short as you think, you know what I mean,

1643
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 17: whether it's a long one again, we're trying to pick

1644
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 17: up you know, first downs, and but also if they

1645
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,719
Speaker 17: give us an advantageous look, you know, take a shot.

1646
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 4: That's sometimes what we can do.

1647
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Speaker 17: And you know, I don't know specifically which ones you're

1648
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 17: referring to, but you know we'll have to use every

1649
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 17: everything we can to to really stay on track this week.

1650
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,480
Speaker 17: That's part of the message here with our football team offensively,

1651
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 17: so that we're not in this you know, danger zone

1652
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 17: of their pressures and when those things can really, you know,

1653
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 17: start to affect you. So we can stay on track,

1654
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 17: and if we're in short yardage, we'll have to have

1655
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 17: a great plan to convert.

1656
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 18: This week fallowing along the line of Carrits questioned a

1657
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 18: little bit, and I know the goal of every team

1658
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 18: is to win, it's the bottom line. And especially like

1659
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:16,879
Speaker 18: a crazy question, but can a late season loss actually

1660
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 18: be good for team going forward?

1661
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Speaker 4: I would say that's tb D. I don't know.

1662
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 17: It's only depending on how you respond and how you

1663
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,639
Speaker 17: prepare and how you practice and ultimately how you play.

1664
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 17: And so we'll see there's a lot of good things

1665
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 17: in there and we'll need all those things on Sunday

1666
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 17: night against this football team that six and two after

1667
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 17: there by, and you know, really coming off a big

1668
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 17: win last week and a dominant win, how much did you.

1669
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 7: Enjoy coaching Derrick Henry Allig the challenge to.

1670
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 4: See I'll start in reverse. He's a huge challenge, A

1671
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:54,480
Speaker 4: very unique.

1672
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 17: Player, great speed, great power, strength, He's just a different

1673
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:03,839
Speaker 17: body type and what we've uh anybody would would go against.

1674
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 17: And so it's a it's unique in that regard. They

1675
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 17: do a nice, very nice job with their scheme, different

1676
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 17: personnel groups, and different run plan and styles of run

1677
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:20,679
Speaker 17: and different run actions. So again we know what he's about,

1678
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 17: build speed and stiff arm and all that other stuff.

1679
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 17: You know, he was very valuable I think to our

1680
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 17: success in Tennessee. Me personally had a great relationship with Derek.

1681
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 4: He was always there. Seemed like when we.

1682
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 17: Needed to play, he made it and you know, a

1683
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 17: great teammate. Anytime that there was a message, he delivered

1684
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 17: that message in his own particular way. So again he

1685
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 17: was somebody that I really valued in the six years

1686
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 17: that that I was there with. You go back to

1687
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 17: back facing the four Vets might on a difference here

1688
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 17: in terms of their skill sets.

1689
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 5: How similar is the preparation, how different players.

1690
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 4: And whatever job you know.

1691
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 17: I mean, Josh isn't gonna matter on Sunday. This is

1692
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 17: about you know, Lamar and the Ravens and what he

1693
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 17: can do and his ability to stay patient and calm

1694
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 17: and then deliver the football or burst. I mean, he

1695
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 17: he really scrambles when he has to. He's rarely feels

1696
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 17: like anybody's going to be able to tackle him until

1697
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 17: he's you know, ready to go down or to get

1698
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 17: out of bounce or to throw. That's kind of the

1699
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 17: mindset and what I see on tape. So that'll be

1700
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 17: a huge challenge, you know, one that you know, we'll

1701
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 17: have to be ready for it in multiple ways.

1702
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,400
Speaker 4: And you know, but he's comfortable.

1703
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 17: Standing there in the pocket and then you know, more

1704
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 17: than capable to extend plays when he feels like he

1705
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 17: has to mich.

1706
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: Knowing how good they are situationally it has been for years.

1707
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: How does that change? If it all the way you

1708
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 1: manage a game.

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 13: Thinking they might be more likely to go forward and

1710
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 13: fourth down or be good once they kind of get

1711
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 13: in two minutes.

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01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 17: Well, we always are kind of conscious I think of

1713
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 17: when teams are kind of in that that four down

1714
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 17: area you know, I mean, you know two minutes. It's

1715
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 17: you know, being able to, yeah, apply enough pressure in

1716
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 17: a timely fashion that doesn't allow the quarterback to to

1717
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 17: scramble and.

1718
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 4: To gain big chunks.

1719
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 17: And you know, so we'll again, we'll have a plan

1720
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 17: for for two minutes and uh, you know obviously be ready,

1721
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,839
Speaker 17: uh and prepared for for the times that they attempt

1722
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 17: to go fourth on fourth down.

1723
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 4: Would you guys like that?

1724
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 5: It is Chad Noma when you brought them.

1725
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 4: But I'll take it what you like about Chatoma. That

1726
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 4: was about it syncd up as we've had this year.

1727
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: That was I wouldn't relent. They didn't even hear each other.

1728
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 17: I heard Chad Muma and then I heard something I

1729
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,560
Speaker 17: don't know, a new one.

1730
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 2: So what did you guys like about you than I

1731
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: want to playboy now?

1732
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 4: You know, I think he's played in this league.

1733
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 17: Again, we get down to this time of the year

1734
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 17: where you know, you got to find some guys that

1735
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 17: have played in games and you know that you could

1736
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 17: use and you know, fourth down and kicking game and

1737
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 17: you know, good speed, good good ability to to process

1738
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 17: and understand what's going on. And uh so I think

1739
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 17: his experience helps and obviously what he can do and

1740
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 17: how quickly he can learn.

1741
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 4: Like their defense, there was a lot of talk earlier year.

1742
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Speaker 1: It was like the last six or seven weeks they

1743
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Speaker 1: turning around.

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Speaker 4: What if you guys noticed on.

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Speaker 17: The table so that to that improving teams aren't really

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01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 17: running the ball on them, you know, so they're forcing

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01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 17: a lot of these games to be one dimensional. You know,

1748
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 17: really good mix of veteran players and some youth, really

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01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 17: good interior players.

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Speaker 4: You know. I mean they're just big, they're you know,

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01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 4: Jones and Jenkins.

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01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 17: And obviously they'll they'll rotate other guys through there, but

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01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 17: it starts with those two.

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01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 17: I think Kyle Hamilton is one of the best players

1756
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 17: in this league just from a versatility standpoint and what

1757
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 17: he can do at the line of scrimmage covering. I

1758
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 17: mean thirty four career PBUs, eight career sacks. You know,

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01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:26,440
Speaker 17: play Nickel plays safety, uh plays diamebacker. So the versatility

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01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 17: there is impressive. That playmaking ability is impressive. I mean,

1761
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 17: Humphrees is you know, if you're loose with the football,

1762
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 17: you take a nap, he'll he'll pull it out or

1763
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 17: he'll hammer it, you know, rokwand Smith usually tackles the

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01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 17: ball every every time it's handed off. So, uh, they're

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 17: they're playing well, they're playing with a lot of confidence

1766
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 17: and to be a huge.

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01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 5: Test you're passing game this perform against Manda main coverage.

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01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 12: With you guys have seen that.

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 17: Oh well, you know, I think that there's always opportunities

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01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 17: for us to win and match coverage. I think that

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01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 17: there's been times where we've one you know, Diggs one

1772
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 17: on third down, Mac one on an end cut. You know,

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Speaker 17: I don't have the numbers off hand analytically, but those

1774
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 17: are at least two. And I'm sure that you know,

1775
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 17: there's times we're in match that that we're covered and

1776
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 17: hopefully you know, Drake can extend the play and you know,

1777
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 17: cause some play extension or be able to scramble. So

1778
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 17: whatever coverage they're in, we're going to have to be

1779
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 17: able to have great spacing and route detail and zone

1780
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 17: and then uh, you know, be able to have answers

1781
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 17: when we do get matched.

1782
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 3: What did you see as the issues potentially in that

1783
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 3: second half with James Cook and Josh Allen able to

1784
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 3: run the.

1785
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 8: Ball a little bit more?

1786
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 13: How can you fix that going into having space a.

1787
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 17: Lot of that just you know, I mean they pushed

1788
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 17: a lot of scrimmage and we have to be able

1789
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,480
Speaker 17: to stay gap sound and be able to.

1790
01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 4: You know, build a wall and build a wall. And

1791
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 4: again when you.

1792
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 17: Get on the plus side of fifty sometimes and then

1793
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 17: short field position, you know, they don't mind sticking with

1794
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 17: the run and going forward on fourth down and you

1795
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 17: can't let him run it in.

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 4: And again it's a huge challenge this week.

1797
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 17: I'm sure we'll see a lot of those runs that

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01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 17: they did last week, you know, see where we're.

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Speaker 4: At with them, That's usually what happened. So that's what

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Speaker 4: I told the team this morning.

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01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 16: You have talked about Drake Rolf.

1802
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 4: Had the final question go ahead.

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01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 11: You talked about Drake protecting himself as a quarterback and

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01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 11: the importance of that if he saw him use his

1805
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 11: legs in the red zone. As a season goes on

1806
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 11: and playoffs on the horizon, do you feel that the

1807
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 11: balance of Drake extending plays with his legs.

1808
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 4: May change a little bit.

1809
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 17: You would have to ask Drake. I don't get to

1810
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 17: make those decisions. I don't have a remote control to say,

1811
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 17: scramble or throw.

1812
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 4: And I just say that.

1813
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Speaker 17: By continuing to develop that part of his game and

1814
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 17: truthfully being able to remain a passer, keep his eyes downfield,

1815
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 17: but then also you know, if it's not, then be

1816
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 17: able to to go and get what you can get

1817
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 17: and take care of yourself.

1818
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 4: So those are the choices that he makes.

1819
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 17: Those are the decisions that the quarterback gets to make,

1820
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 17: and I think he's mad made some good ones and

1821
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 17: again hopefully he can continue to do that and progress

1822
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 17: and try to remain a thrower guys can come into

1823
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 17: his vision and we can get some of those things done.

1824
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 17: And then if they don't, you know, then he'll have

1825
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 17: to get what he can get and get down or

1826
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 17: get out.

1827
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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Mike Rabel Anything uh want to I highlight.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just for me, the challenge of the Ravens.

1830
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: I think he's got a pretty good beat on, you know,

1831
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 1: how good they are on defense and what Derrick Henry

1832
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: means and stressing their six and two after the buy,

1833
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 1: how they've turned things around, and you know, the big

1834
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 1: thing was just teams aren't running on them, they're making

1835
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: them one dimension. Always talked a lot about the Patriots

1836
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: run game this year not being able to get going. Well,

1837
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Speaker 1: this might be a tough week for them to get

1838
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: going a lot on tre.

1839
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 5: That was the one thing that stood out to me too,

1840
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 5: is they you know, because you don't watch the Ravens

1841
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 5: every week, you just look at the numbers. You just

1842
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 5: see other six and two in their last eight. The

1843
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 5: defense obviously played much better. What has led to that turnaround?

1844
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 5: And he's telling you they've been much tougher to run against.

1845
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 5: So even though they haven't been great rushing, the pass

1846
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,000
Speaker 5: or anything. They only have like twenty sack twenty two

1847
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 5: sacks all season. You make a team one dimensional, becomes

1848
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 5: a little easier to defend.

1849
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 1: Kind of missing that, Terurela, what if you make the

1850
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: Patriots won the metabuga, you know out all year.

1851
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 2: Do you think the Patriots can succeed pass heavy? I

1852
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 2: think they can't.

1853
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 1: I think they Kenneth Drake is on I mean his passes. Yeah,

1854
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: I think they can. But I also think that they're

1855
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 1: a similar kind of team to Buffalo that they have

1856
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: a championship medal, but they have playoff medal. This is

1857
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: a team that's played in a lot of big games

1858
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: and their backs are against the wall right now, so

1859
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: I would expect them to, you know, to be really

1860
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: competitive on that stuff.

1861
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 1: The Marlin Hemphrey warnings stood out to me too, of

1863
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: you know, don't take anap. They're gonna they're gonna turn

1864
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: the ball over on you.

1865
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's I mean, he's been a good player for

1866
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 5: a long time, Humphrey. And you know, I just have

1867
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 5: respect for the way the Ravens play. That's what's been

1868
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 5: so surprising to me about their struggles, and it's not

1869
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 5: necessarily health related.

1870
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 7: Struggles, Like I watched the Pittsburgh game.

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Speaker 5: I watched a good chunk of that two weeks ago,

1872
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:25,879
Speaker 5: and they just didn't look like they played with much urgency, effort, energy,

1873
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,640
Speaker 5: which to me is very atypical of the way the

1874
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 5: Ravens normally play, right, I thought that was kind of

1875
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 5: the the signal that it was the end was here,

1876
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 5: Like they didn't feel like they had it this year,

1877
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 5: and I kind of expected him to go to Cincinnati

1878
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 5: and lose. They responded with what many have called their

1879
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 5: best game of the year, a twenty four to nothing win.

1880
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 5: I don't know if that was as much to do

1881
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 5: with the Ravens or you know, the mess that is

1882
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 5: Cincinnati right now and you know, sort of the morass

1883
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 5: that Joe Burrow is in, you know, emotionally having fun. Yeah,

1884
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 5: so we'll find out. I mean, I think twenty five

1885
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 5: or so, I mean, they got it. They got to

1886
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 5: get to the mid to upper twenties. I would think

1887
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 5: Buffalo Baltimore is not a high powered like thirty plus

1888
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 5: on a routine basis, But you know, twenty three, twenty four,

1889
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 5: you know, twenty seven, I think that should be enough

1890
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 5: to if you can get there.

1891
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 7: You should be able to win.

1892
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I also don't think that they're just gonna

1893
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 5: allow you to to put up thirty eight.

1894
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: So no, it's gonna be tough sledding. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1895
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: having to run over to the Lockermow'll come right back though.

1896
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: Oh boy. All right, there goes to Digsy, There goes

1897
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Speaker 2: to ion Evan. All right. H eight five to five

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Speaker 2: past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at pages dot com.

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Speaker 2: We've got plenty of emails coming in, calls coming in.

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Speaker 2: Brad's in Ohio on the hot line. What's up, Brad?

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Speaker 19: Hey, crew, how are you doing today?

1902
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 2: Okay?

1903
01:25:53,800 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 19: Good? Just a couple questions and observation. First of all,

1904
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 19: when can we expect Milton back?

1905
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 2: Milton William Well, the first game that he's eligible to

1906
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 2: be back is the Jets game.

1907
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 19: But we haven't heard nothing medically.

1908
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,439
Speaker 2: Why assume that, No, we don't know the prog. I

1909
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: don't know the progress that he's making or how I

1910
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: think it's an ankle for him, right high ankle sprain.

1911
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: I don't know like how he's doing. I have no idea.

1912
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Speaker 19: Okay, and then I think we all, all of you,

1913
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 19: including Paul touched on a very good point that I

1914
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 19: don't think just has something.

1915
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:36,799
Speaker 9: To do with Drake.

1916
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 19: I also thought it had something to do with Wade

1917
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 19: and Gonzales played in that game, and that is their

1918
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 19: their attire for the weather that they're playing in. I mean,

1919
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 19: I agree with Paul wholeheartedly. You can't just because you're tough,

1920
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 19: you don't want to wear Did Brett's farv wear bear

1921
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 19: skinned and green bay? I mean, I don't understand.

1922
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: I think he might have been one of those tough guys.

1923
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 1: He didn't.

1924
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wore sleeves.

1925
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, mostly far most quarterbacks, you know, I'm not telling

1926
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 5: you they all do. But and I don't care if

1927
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 5: he doesn't want to wear sleeves, if he doesn't feel

1928
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 5: comfortable wearing sleeves and he feels comfortable doing it this way,

1929
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,960
Speaker 5: I am one hundred percent on board with it. But

1930
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 5: I just don't want the reason to be right, I'm

1931
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 5: being some sort of message that you're trying to send

1932
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 5: about being tough. It's better that you're playing at your

1933
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,520
Speaker 5: best and you're most comfortable.

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01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 2: I'd rather be smart, you know, like, yeah, however you're

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01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:35,520
Speaker 2: going to perform best, that's how you should dress.

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01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 19: And so last year, did he have any games that

1937
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 19: he wore sleeps.

1938
01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 2: And I'm trying, I don't know, you have to ask

1939
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: he's he's the uniformed people guy.

1940
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,080
Speaker 19: I don't he's ever done that. And I hope that,

1941
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 19: you know, like Evan and Paul and you all were

1942
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 19: speaking of, I hope he, you know, kind of can

1943
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,440
Speaker 19: figure out what he needs to be wearing to be comfortable,

1944
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 19: like you're saying, and so that because I remember Tom,

1945
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 19: like Paul was paying, I mean, he looked like he

1946
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 19: was dressed up.

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01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, absolutely, Now yeah, thanks for the call, Brat.

1948
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 2: Now I remember, you know, back in the day, Nelly

1949
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: talking about that game when Miami came here and it

1950
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 2: was really cold and snow and you know, they came

1951
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: on bundled up and you know, looking cold, and the

1952
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,559
Speaker 2: Patriots came out in short sleeves and Nelly says that

1953
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: the Patriots psyched him out that game.

1954
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 5: Well, he said, he tells a story about Don Nottingham,

1955
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:37,799
Speaker 5: who was the Dolphins fullback who came out for pregame

1956
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 5: warm ups with no sleeves on. Blah blah blah, went

1957
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 5: through the whole rigamarole, and then when the game started,

1958
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 5: he came out and he had sleeves on, and Nelly says,

1959
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 5: I knew we had him then, right, I don't know

1960
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 5: that that. I mean now he's one of my all

1961
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,960
Speaker 5: time favorites. I mean I trust him like that. Maybe

1962
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 5: they got to, but I think it's also a little

1963
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,840
Speaker 5: different for fullback and a line inside linebacker, we're going

1964
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 5: to clashing heads all day. You know, maybe you do

1965
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,640
Speaker 5: want a mental edge, Like I don't really think the

1966
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 5: quarterback needs that mental edge over somebody to show you

1967
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 5: he's tougher.

1968
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 7: You need to play better.

1969
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: Right, I need him to be top efficiency. You know,

1970
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 2: however you're most comfortable, that's what you do. And you know,

1971
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 2: I know now if I was playing with all the

1972
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: technology now in these undergarments, like they're so thin you

1973
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 2: don't want to be impeded. But now like they're so

1974
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 2: thin and in thermal that you can you can be

1975
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: warm and not be impeded. It used to not be

1976
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 2: that way, like you know, forty years ago, but now

1977
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: this stuff is so amazing. And then they have little

1978
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 2: tricks like I know wide receivers have talked about on

1979
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: cold days using vasoline on their arms, and I guess,

1980
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 2: I guess vaciline closes the pores, and so you know,

1981
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 2: the wind wouldn't you know, get through your pores and

1982
01:29:57,680 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: make you even colder. And that was kind of a

1983
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 2: trick that they used to do. So it's a real

1984
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 2: thing being cold. I mean when your hands in your

1985
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 2: feet are freezing and you can't feel them, and it's

1986
01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 2: it's hard to perform. It's hard to perform. So anything

1987
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 2: you can do, and you know, you see these guys

1988
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: in the sideline, they make no bones about getting near

1989
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: that heater, and and the seats are heated, and they

1990
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 2: have those little posts behind the bench and those are

1991
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 2: for putting your helmet on. Those are heated. So it's

1992
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 2: a real thing. So why try to fight it.

1993
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 5: I'm looking at a late season game. I was just

1994
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 5: doing some highlights late season game against the Chargers last year,

1995
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,720
Speaker 5: which I want to say was just before Christmas. No

1996
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 5: sleeves for Drake, No sleeves for Drake. I looked up

1997
01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 5: some bread and to be doing that game not good.

1998
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 7: The forty seven they Brett Favre.

1999
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 5: I just you know, did two thousand and seven NFC

2000
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 5: Championship game because I remember that was that was the

2001
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 5: game that Tom Coughlin's face was already Oh.

2002
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, pet sleeves. Yeah, they were wearing sleeps.

2003
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 2: Was bitter cold.

2004
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was rich.

2005
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 5: You know, like again, if if it's about trying to

2006
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 5: be macho, then you you wouldn't wear a sleep but

2007
01:31:11,479 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 5: you gotta be you gotta be comfortable.

2008
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that gotta play off Tennessee game here. Yeah,

2009
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 2: I remember one of the Tennessee players on the bench saying,

2010
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 2: you know, I'm freaking out. I can't feel my feet.

2011
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 2: I'm freaking out here. It was cold, man.

2012
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 5: And that was the game that Bethel Johnson fooled us

2013
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 5: all in the locker room. We had Bethel Johnson caught

2014
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 5: a bomb from Brady. Don't you like when they leave

2015
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 5: when we can do story shows. He caught a bomb

2016
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,960
Speaker 5: for a touchdown in that game, and afterwards he's talking

2017
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 5: to us in the locker room saying, yeah, you know,

2018
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 5: and and it was really really cold that night. You know,

2019
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 5: I didn't have any sleeves on, and you know I

2020
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 5: was out there. I was tough and you and then

2021
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 5: we had the cover shot, right you know, so like

2022
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,799
Speaker 5: you leave the locker room, we go back to our offices.

2023
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 5: We stopped putting stuff together and Fred's like, what do

2024
01:31:57,320 --> 01:31:58,840
Speaker 5: you think of this cover shot? And me and Andy

2025
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 5: look at each other and we're like, this guy just

2026
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 5: got finished telling us how he didn't wear sleeves. He's

2027
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 5: got sleeves on us. He's catching his baths.

2028
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:10,599
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean to us, I'd be stuffing feet warmers

2029
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,600
Speaker 2: in my cleats. I mean, whatever you can do to

2030
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: stay warm, That's what I'd be doing. Curtis and Saint

2031
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 2: Louis has a rant. Just wanted to say to all

2032
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: Bills fans on social media and some of the mainstream media.

2033
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 2: We know the schedule is historically the easiest ever. We

2034
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 2: know that, but the Patriots are not just a product

2035
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 2: of their schedule. They are not a fluke face it, folks.

2036
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 2: They are back baby. We all knew this was going

2037
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 2: to be a tough game, but I believe New England

2038
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 2: beat themselves more so than Buffalo handling them, handing them

2039
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 2: their arse. Also, let's not forget to mention that the

2040
01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 2: Bills basically have the same schedule as the Patriots outside

2041
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 2: of three games. Well, three games is a lot in

2042
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: the seventeen game schedules, but anyway.

2043
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,799
Speaker 5: Especially when they're Houston, Philadelphia in Kansas City, fred.

2044
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,720
Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I will double down. May

2045
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 2: will throw for three hundred yard and get the game ball.

2046
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,759
Speaker 2: He will also throw for three touchdowns and have fifty

2047
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 2: plus rushing yards. Fourteen and three is still on the table.

2048
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,840
Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, All right, I'm good with that last part.

2049
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,519
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I like the last graph. Yeah,

2050
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 5: big fan of the last draft.

2051
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Okay, Don and Philly has a would you rather

2052
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 2: if we knew everything we knew now or we know

2053
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 2: now and we went back to the twenty twenty fourth draft?

2054
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 2: Drake goes one, but the Patriots are picking two? Would

2055
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:33,919
Speaker 2: you pick Caleb Jaden or Nis Caleb Williams. Yeah, probably

2056
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,720
Speaker 2: we were picking one. But I'd also want to make

2057
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 2: sure that I have Josh McDaniels with him, Okay, yeah,

2058
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: because I think he needed he needs somebody good like

2059
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 2: he's getting now. He's he's got Ben Johnson. Now you

2060
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: know he didn't have big john men. Oh I do too,

2061
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 2: but sometimes immensely talented guys, right you know?

2062
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2063
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: Right?

2064
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 7: Also I give the credit to the player.

2065
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,639
Speaker 2: Also, what what seed do you project pay Trits ending

2066
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,120
Speaker 2: up with? And who do you expect us to play

2067
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 2: as of right now?

2068
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 7: I expect them to finish with the two seed.

2069
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 2: I do too.

2070
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 7: It could be anybody. Yeah, I have no idea. Who's

2071
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 7: going to be seven?

2072
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 4: Yep?

2073
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:17,160
Speaker 2: And I'm not. I know it's a recurring theme here,

2074
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 2: not just this year, but other years. Who would you

2075
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 2: rather play? Who do you hope they play? Who do

2076
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 2: you not want to play? I don't like playing that game.

2077
01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 5: You've never liked. I'm going to give you a lot

2078
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 5: of credit. I never liked playing that game. If I

2079
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 5: think it's half.

2080
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 2: If we get knocked out in the wildcard, then we

2081
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: weren't good enough.

2082
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 7: You know, but that's obvious. But I don't know who.

2083
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 7: Who do you think would be an easier game?

2084
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't care.

2085
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 7: I agree with you. They can beat anybody, and they

2086
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:44,560
Speaker 7: can lose to anybody.

2087
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 5: But I think I'd rather play, you know, Jacksonville than Houston.

2088
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 5: I'd rather play the Chargers than the Bills.

2089
01:34:54,560 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 2: But eventually you're gonna have to play somebody good, right,

2090
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: or somebody better than who you think the Jacksonville jack

2091
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: So i'd write if we're not good enough, I'd rather

2092
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 2: get it over early.

2093
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 7: See not me, not me?

2094
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 5: If you're good I mean, I think there's much you're

2095
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 5: telling me that you'd rather lose in the wild card

2096
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 5: round in the AFC Championship.

2097
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if i'd rather, but you just get

2098
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: it over with. If we're not good enough before, if

2099
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 2: we have to have the perfect matchups, then we're not gonna.

2100
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 7: Like it's not perfect. I just said that.

2101
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 5: I think they can beat anybody, and they can lose

2102
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:29,599
Speaker 5: to anybody, but.

2103
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 2: I just don't. I just I just don't like wasting

2104
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 2: time worrying about that.

2105
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 5: Again, you have very You've been very consistent on that.

2106
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 5: For even when the Patriots were great, right, you just

2107
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 5: never really gave any thought to who they were playing.

2108
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 2: Whoever we're playing, that's who I'll worry about. So somebody

2109
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: has an important question for Paul. This is Anthony. Yesterday

2110
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 2: I asked the question, is it fair to say we

2111
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: didn't play our best on Sunday? And you said, and

2112
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 2: how we aren't? You said no, In how we aren't

2113
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 2: the Kurt Warner Rams, you also said I'm expecting too

2114
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 2: much out of Pop and the receivers. Yes, you're right

2115
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 2: about us not being the Rams, but is it really

2116
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,040
Speaker 2: too much to expect for Pop to at least have

2117
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 2: a few catches. I know we put up thirty one

2118
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 2: and that's a good outing.

2119
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 7: He has to play to get catches, right.

2120
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,160
Speaker 2: I know we put up thirty one and that's a

2121
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:22,960
Speaker 2: good outing. But let's be honest, that was one of

2122
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 2: the worst games by Drake by his standards. Are you

2123
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,040
Speaker 2: really saying I can't expect him to complete more than

2124
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: five passes for forty two yards in the second half?

2125
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:32,120
Speaker 2: Or am I missing something?

2126
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 5: So you have to take the entire game into consideration.

2127
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 5: I understand what the guy's point is, Okay, I don't

2128
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 5: think they're capable of playing sixty minutes of dominant football.

2129
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 5: I don't think they can do that. I don't think

2130
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 5: they're good enough to do that. That's the point I'm

2131
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 5: trying to say, Like, should I have expected a first

2132
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 5: down or two on the last two drives? Of course

2133
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 5: you know that that would be But like, I don't

2134
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 5: understand why when they This is a sports thing to me,

2135
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 5: we take snapshots of when things are the absolute best,

2136
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 5: and that's what that's what it is. The Celtics win

2137
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 5: six games in a row and suddenly we're talking about

2138
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum's coming back. They need to make a move

2139
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 5: at the deadline, the East is wide open. Then they

2140
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 5: lose two in a row, and everybody's like, oh, well

2141
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 5: I got that.

2142
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 7: You know, don't take a snapshot.

2143
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 5: In other words, you watch the first half and three

2144
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,879
Speaker 5: out of the first four drives the Patriots scored touchdowns,

2145
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 5: and you say, well, that's what they are. No, they're not.

2146
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 7: They're hot. They're hot right now it's going to level off. Yeah,

2147
01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 7: do you know what I'm saying?

2148
01:37:44,080 --> 01:37:47,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, because they're not quote unquote that talented to just

2149
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 5: run rough shot over everybody.

2150
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that I think has everyone in a

2151
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 2: tizzy over this game is you had two disparate halfs.

2152
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 2: Of course, you had probably the best half they played

2153
01:37:57,840 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 2: and maybe the worst half.

2154
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 7: But if you can buy that's but it's pretty good.

2155
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 2: It's hard to do that. It's totally hard to do.

2156
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 7: It's totally hard to do.

2157
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 2: You know.

2158
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 5: Should they have been expected to play a little better

2159
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 5: in the second half, of course they should. They're capable.

2160
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 5: I've seen them play better than that many times. I've

2161
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 5: never seen them anything near what they did in the

2162
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 5: first thirty minutes.

2163
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 2: They haven't approached that ever, exactly right.

2164
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 5: So that's why I say overall, it's about as well

2165
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 5: as they can play. I'm counting it all, not just

2166
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 5: the second half.

2167
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that they can play a first half like

2168
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 2: that and a reasonably better in the second half. I'm

2169
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 2: hoping that's a potential for that.

2170
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 5: So what I would expect is a little less than

2171
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 5: that in the first half, but a little more than

2172
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 5: that in the second half. Okay, and maybe the consistency

2173
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 5: ultimately gets you we want to go. I don't think

2174
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 5: that they're capable of doing what they did in the

2175
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 5: first half very often.

2176
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that was like against the Bills.

2177
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,400
Speaker 5: No, Yes, against the quality opponent, right, you know, I

2178
01:38:56,720 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 5: think that that was they really were in total control

2179
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 5: of that game.

2180
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 2: That's why he felt so confident going in this.

2181
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 5: In the first twenty five minutes in the first half,

2182
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 5: they were in total control. Yeah, And I don't think

2183
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 5: that's realistic to expect against another team that has talent yep.

2184
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 2: Robert writes in after being drafted, Henderson was compared to

2185
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 2: James White because of his receiving ability. While he's obviously

2186
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,080
Speaker 2: a better runner than whitever was is there any reason

2187
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 2: we're not seeing them utilize him differently in the passing game.

2188
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 2: They are utilizing him in the passing game.

2189
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 7: Not a ton. I've been a little surprised at that myself.

2190
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 2: He's capable of running routes out wide or in the slot.

2191
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,800
Speaker 2: It seems like they could be able to create mismatches

2192
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 2: in the passing game by moving him around a lot

2193
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,320
Speaker 2: more than they are. When you have a game where

2194
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 2: we threw the ball so much in the second half

2195
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 2: without success, it leaves you looking for ways to scheme

2196
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 2: up easy plays. It seems like you could isolate him

2197
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 2: in places take advantage of his big playability in the

2198
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 2: passing game more often. They seem to use Remandrae more

2199
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 2: creatively in the passing game.

2200
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 5: And I disagree with that. Henderson's a much more frequent

2201
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,280
Speaker 5: target than how many.

2202
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 2: Targets did he have in the second half.

2203
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 7: We know how many targets did who have Henderson in

2204
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 7: the game.

2205
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the game.

2206
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 7: He had three targets in the two catches.

2207
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a lot.

2208
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's like they haven't used him a ton

2209
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 5: as a receiver. I mean, he's got thirty four catches,

2210
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 5: which is I think, you know, a decent number for

2211
01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 5: a rookie running back. First of all, can I just

2212
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 5: say this is just a scratch and itch. James White

2213
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 5: is still criminally underrated. But I'm going to leave that

2214
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 5: off to the side.

2215
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 2: Okay, he's not as good a runner as Henderson.

2216
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 5: So I'm going to leave that off to the side.

2217
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 5: The he's not as fast as Henderson. Yeah, I don't

2218
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 5: know whatever argument definite. Traveon Henderson has elite top end

2219
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 5: speed for any running back.

2220
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 2: White was anybody.

2221
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 5: James White was an excellent running back runner in pass receiver,

2222
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:01,760
Speaker 5: he was not as fast as Trevion Henderson. Henderson, to me,

2223
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 5: they did exactly They tried to do exactly what you said.

2224
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 5: On the third down at the end of the game.

2225
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 5: They tried to isolate him outside on a wheel route

2226
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 5: and he was covered like a blanket.

2227
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,799
Speaker 7: They switched it up. I think Evan talked about this yesterday.

2228
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 5: They had a cornerback on him. So those are the

2229
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 5: plays that James White made routinely, and I'm been a

2230
01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 5: little surprised that they haven't been able to do that

2231
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,719
Speaker 5: more often. But I mean, I think that you've gotten

2232
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,639
Speaker 5: seven hundred and seventy three yards rushing in another two

2233
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 5: hundred and twelve yards receiving. You know, he's knocking on

2234
01:41:38,240 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 5: the door of a thousand yard scrimmage season. I think

2235
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 5: he's had a really solid rookie year. I don't really

2236
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,800
Speaker 5: have any issues with his usage. I think that they've

2237
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 5: done a really nice job with him.

2238
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 2: Carl from Salt Lake City originally from Western mass though

2239
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 2: I was born in Western mass So the teasing is

2240
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 2: noted and mildly hurtful on behalf of all of us

2241
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 2: west of Worcester. It's okay, you got to live with it.

2242
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:01,640
Speaker 7: It's all in.

2243
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 2: This game made it clear once again that we don't

2244
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: have that binkie always open receiver for may. I know

2245
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 2: we all thought it might be Diggs, but so far

2246
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,639
Speaker 2: it's been inconsistent. Do we have anyone on the current

2247
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: roster who can really realistically fill that role.

2248
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:18,560
Speaker 7: Well, Diggs has been doing that all season.

2249
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:24,000
Speaker 2: Not playing right on third down for sure, the Binkie.

2250
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,639
Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. Diggs has been doing that all

2251
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 7: season long. He's been the binky.

2252
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 5: He was even the binkie once on Sunday. Otherwise had

2253
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 5: a quiet game. There was a big third down in

2254
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 5: the second half that he converted.

2255
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 2: The bill seemed to provide a pretty solid blueprint for

2256
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 2: how to stymy the Pagers passing attack. And I can't

2257
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 2: shake the feeling that if this doesn't get figured out quickly,

2258
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 2: our playoff chances are going to be pretty limited.

2259
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna there's a lot of things

2260
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 7: that I think.

2261
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 5: I'm not going to overreact on one game. That's going

2262
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 5: to be one of them. The Bills have a really

2263
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 5: good pass defense. And I'm not telling you they have

2264
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 5: a great defense. I don't think they do. But their

2265
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 5: pass defense has been ranked among the top five in

2266
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 5: the league for virtually the entirety of the McDermott era,

2267
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 5: including this year. So I you know, you can say

2268
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 5: they had a blueprint. You've got to figure out how

2269
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 5: to how to come up with different ways and you know,

2270
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 5: different schemes that that Sean McDermott did in the second

2271
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 5: half to to turn you know, turn things around and

2272
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 5: switch things up.

2273
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 7: I don't think just anybody can do that.

2274
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,360
Speaker 2: Listen, if we if we think that Josh McDaniels is

2275
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 2: a good offensive coordinator, and we do most of us anyway,

2276
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 2: he'll he recognizes, you know.

2277
01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 5: What's got to be adjustments to the adjustments, right so

2278
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 5: we'll see, and I don't think that just anybody can

2279
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 5: do You don't listen, Baltimore. I don't think it's going

2280
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 5: to be an easy game this week. The Ravens have

2281
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 5: some some something to play for, and they have some

2282
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:52,200
Speaker 5: ability on defense, and I think they've sort of overcome

2283
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 5: their really lackluster start. We'll see what happens, but I

2284
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 5: don't think just anybody can do what Buffalo did in

2285
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,759
Speaker 5: the second half. Yeah, I don't think it's as simple

2286
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 5: as well, you know, your double team this guy and

2287
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:04,799
Speaker 5: you double teen that guy and they have no no answers.

2288
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 7: Well they'll they'll figure out some answers.

2289
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 2: Zach from zinci Uh. A positive talking point I want

2290
01:44:12,120 --> 01:44:14,280
Speaker 2: to brought up after Sunday's loss was the fact that

2291
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:17,879
Speaker 2: Trevion Henderson jumped up to the highest odds for Offensive

2292
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. BUKA is great, but it's taken

2293
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,200
Speaker 2: a step back in production, and Ted doesn't have to

2294
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 2: eye popping games like Trey does. Our guy have a

2295
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 2: legitimate chance to get the NOD with the games left

2296
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 2: being meaningful. I could see him having another one hundred

2297
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 2: plus yard one touchdown game, which I think would seal

2298
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 2: the deal.

2299
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,120
Speaker 7: I think he has a good chance. I think those

2300
01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:38,920
Speaker 7: are the top three.

2301
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,320
Speaker 5: Personally, I would I would take McMillan because I think

2302
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,320
Speaker 5: he's all by himself, whereas the other two guys are

2303
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 5: you know, parts of you know, better, better offenses. But

2304
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 5: it's gonna come down to what the what the voters

2305
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 5: look at, Like Abuka was really good for the vast

2306
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 5: majority of the season in his tail off late, Henderson

2307
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 5: was nothing for the vast majority of the season and

2308
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 5: has exploded as of late. Which one of those two

2309
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 5: things do you want to sort of focus on if

2310
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,639
Speaker 5: you're a voter, right, I think that's what it could

2311
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 5: come down to, because I do think one of those

2312
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:15,640
Speaker 5: two will win it because I think they're going to

2313
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 5: be on better teams, you know. I mean, I guess

2314
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,599
Speaker 5: Tampa is really not a better team than Carolina.

2315
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 7: They're the same.

2316
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,799
Speaker 5: So I don't know, but I do think it's funny

2317
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 5: the Ohio State thing, which I was reading a little

2318
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 5: bout this morning. They've had something like seven Rookies of

2319
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 5: the Year the last like I don't know, half dozen years,

2320
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 5: you know, Jack and Smith and Jigba, and.

2321
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 2: They come out pro ready.

2322
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, you know, Chase Young was one of

2323
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 5: them that both Bosa's Joey and Nick Bosa were Defensive

2324
01:45:48,360 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 5: Rookies of the Year. Yeah, I think Trevia and Henderson

2325
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,840
Speaker 5: is an excellent chance to win that because I do

2326
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 5: think the last thing that people see sometimes sticks in

2327
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 5: your mind longer. And right now with Abuka has been

2328
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 5: he's kind of hit the wall.

2329
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 7: Yep a little bit.

2330
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 2: Jay and Indy, Uh, what happened to the dink and

2331
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 2: dunk offense and the checkdown? It's like all they do

2332
01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,480
Speaker 2: now is run the ball and take deep shots.

2333
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:13,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

2334
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 5: I don't really think they've done it. I don't know

2335
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,639
Speaker 5: about the deep shots all year. Yeah, they've been throwing

2336
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 5: the ball down for.

2337
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 2: There was a play that everybody was, you know, sharing

2338
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 2: on the X the last couple of days about the

2339
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 2: crosser Drake. Drake decided to go to the sideline to

2340
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:34,799
Speaker 2: Henderson Henderson and he had booty crust.

2341
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't come off Henderson quickly enough when he

2342
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 5: saw he was covered, and he threw it away And

2343
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 5: I think he should have probably come off of that quicker.

2344
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:46,040
Speaker 5: But they've been throwing the ball downfield all year. It's

2345
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:48,400
Speaker 5: not like this dink and dunk offense.

2346
01:46:48,479 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 2: No, he's saying what happened to it? I know, like,

2347
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 2: why don't they do it?

2348
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 7: I don't know they didn't. I think he's saying they

2349
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:55,439
Speaker 7: didn't do it in this game. I don't think they

2350
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 7: all year.

2351
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 2: No, that's what I think he's saying.

2352
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 5: I think I mean I want them to keep doing

2353
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 5: what they're doing this year, because you know why, dink

2354
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 5: and dunk hasn't been productive. This has been wow. So

2355
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 5: I want to take the production. Well, he's thirty one point.

2356
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 2: He's saying they don't try it enough.

2357
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 7: Dnking donk.

2358
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take scoring thirty one points and I'll take

2359
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 5: my chances bus weeks.

2360
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 2: Okay.

2361
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 5: I don't think offense was the in terms of production.

2362
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 5: I don't think offense was the reason why you lost. Now,

2363
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,760
Speaker 5: you needed situational football in the second half from the

2364
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 5: offense that you didn't get. That's why I was disappointed

2365
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 5: in the offense Sunday. But I'm not going to be

2366
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,720
Speaker 5: silly and say I don't want them to score as much.

2367
01:47:29,760 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Do you think that Drake I think he makes now

2368
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 2: all downfield in his stage of his career, is aware

2369
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 2: of the easy profits.

2370
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 5: Yes, at this point, Yes, I think he does not

2371
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 5: like to do that, or should he be. I think

2372
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 5: most young quarterbacks don't want to do that. They look,

2373
01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 5: they want to throw the ball downfield. It takes him

2374
01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 5: a while to sort of figure that out, you don't

2375
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 5: think so. I think a lot of young quarterbacks want

2376
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 5: to make plays.

2377
01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2378
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, and then they realize, you know, you can

2379
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,960
Speaker 5: be efficient and you know, work it down the field.

2380
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 5: But I think he's had so much success completing seventy

2381
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,839
Speaker 5: percent of his passes while he's throwing the ball downfield

2382
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 5: as much as anybody in the league, it's hard to argue.

2383
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barton Poland says, I'm alive, recovering from surgery. It

2384
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 2: should be fine.

2385
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 7: Thanks this bart So, not this time.

2386
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:24,719
Speaker 2: Fred, not this time. Plus. Fred called the Panthers beating

2387
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:26,680
Speaker 2: the Saints a lock. Well, if he only read my

2388
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 2: email saying that the Panthers lost twelve straight games in

2389
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 2: which they were favored, he would have known better. Okay,

2390
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 2: there's one. Yeah, I said it was ten weeks ago.

2391
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 7: Okay, from ten weeks ago. It just happened. Oh the Panther,

2392
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 7: Oh the Panthers just lost to the Saints.

2393
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 2: Okay, was that just this week.

2394
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 7: All right, that's what he's talking about.

2395
01:48:46,479 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 2: Lock.

2396
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 5: Yes, all right, he mocked me when I was thinking

2397
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 5: about taking New Orleans. Oh, you're like, it's a lock.

2398
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, oh, and I said they already

2399
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 5: lost to him once this year. Now they lost to

2400
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:57,240
Speaker 5: him twice.

2401
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well they got a s. It wasn't

2402
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:01,200
Speaker 2: a good week.

2403
01:49:01,320 --> 01:49:02,400
Speaker 7: Both of those teams stink.

2404
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:03,879
Speaker 2: Was it a bad week for everybody?

2405
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 18: Umm?

2406
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:11,200
Speaker 5: Just okay, it wasn't just okay? Yeah, nothing special? Yeah,

2407
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 5: but not a not Well I can't really remember. I

2408
01:49:15,880 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 5: think I did.

2409
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 2: All right, Oh, you keep the book.

2410
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 7: That's correct.

2411
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,800
Speaker 5: What do you think I'm making a comeback for I cheat?

2412
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,479
Speaker 2: Yes, people want to talk about this game.

2413
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 5: Just so you know, if if there is ever any

2414
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:33,599
Speaker 5: cheating uncovered, please please know that it's completely an utterly

2415
01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 5: unintentional chore. I can't add unintentionally. I have no I

2416
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 5: have math issues as I as I.

2417
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:42,679
Speaker 7: You know. In a little comeback, when we talked about

2418
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 7: the All Star.

2419
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,080
Speaker 2: Breaks, figured off it's all for fun?

2420
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 7: What six weeks was?

2421
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:50,240
Speaker 2: It's all for fun? Craig says. I had a professor

2422
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 2: who told told us an exam where you score a

2423
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:57,280
Speaker 2: ninety eight means nothing. Students need to know where they

2424
01:49:57,320 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 2: are lacking. Therefore, an exam where you fail communicates much more.

2425
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 7: That's interesting.

2426
01:50:04,240 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 2: How about getting a ninety eight means I actually learned

2427
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 2: it right?

2428
01:50:07,040 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 7: And it means would in that show that you you learn?

2429
01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 5: Why do you have to Why do you always have

2430
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 5: to be needing to learn more in a you know,

2431
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 5: in a finite subject like I'm not saying like everybody

2432
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 5: should always be no one should ever be satisfied with

2433
01:50:21,120 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 5: their knowledge in general, like you're always looking to learn more.

2434
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,200
Speaker 2: I don't I don't put that. Yeah, I don't know

2435
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 2: if I subscribe to that anyway. Can this be applied

2436
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 2: to the Patriot's loss to the Bills through the loss

2437
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 2: of the areas of concern are obvious and can be

2438
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 2: addressed well, Yes, of course you can learn from what

2439
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:40,000
Speaker 2: you didn't do right.

2440
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,640
Speaker 7: But you would have the same opportunity how they won

2441
01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:42,960
Speaker 7: the game.

2442
01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 2: How about learning we are so good that it's time

2443
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 2: to add on more. It's time to open up more

2444
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 2: of the play like this learning and everything.

2445
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,960
Speaker 5: They could you not have learned that you could have

2446
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 5: taken the ball with two minutes left, gone down the field,

2447
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 5: scored in one thirty eight thirty five, when you have

2448
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 5: learned something about how to, you know, sort of pick

2449
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 5: yourself up and overcome the bad stuff that was going

2450
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:07,040
Speaker 5: on in the second half. What did you say everybody

2451
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 5: wants to talk about the game that.

2452
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 2: They still want to talk about the Bills game.

2453
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a you know, it was one of

2454
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 5: the rare big games that they've had.

2455
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 7: You know, we're going to talk about the Giants, but.

2456
01:51:19,320 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 2: You know, we got to have Mac Collins mindset, flush

2457
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:28,200
Speaker 2: the toilet, big shock. Nick Wright said he's out of Ohio.

2458
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 2: Took the wife to the Scorpion Bar at Patriot Place

2459
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:32,360
Speaker 2: and it was fantastic.

2460
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:32,800
Speaker 7: Nice.

2461
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,719
Speaker 2: If I can sum up the game in one play

2462
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 2: from Josh Allen versus the defense, it's the last play

2463
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 2: where he audibled into the full back dive and got

2464
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 2: the first down. That was a veteran move of reading

2465
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 2: the defense and pushing through something that he obviously saw.

2466
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 2: My two cents, I don't remember that.

2467
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I know the players talking about Ty Johnson

2468
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 5: just ran it up the middle for a couple of yards.

2469
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 7: Got the first.

2470
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 2: Talk about audible.

2471
01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 14: That none of them look like Devin Henry. Hey, Mike,

2472
01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:08,480
Speaker 14: what was it like in the locker room.

2473
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 16: What was it like in.

2474
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: The well, Mike, Yeah, I was busy again, another crazy Wednesday.

2475
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about that.

2476
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:21,120
Speaker 7: Uh we're going few Wednesday now, I know.

2477
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 1: Trying to cut back. So some things to report. Robert

2478
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:27,560
Speaker 1: Splint spot in a walking boot locker.

2479
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 2: Room, hence the signing of the line back.

2480
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, well now I worry that Evan when he said

2481
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:37,599
Speaker 5: that maybe something happened in the pregame mmmmm, like like

2482
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:42,200
Speaker 5: a roma Jonesay, oh yeah, I didn't even think of that.

2483
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: That's not good. But we also heard from Digs as

2484
01:52:46,120 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 1: usual on Wednesday and you know, preaching the same message

2485
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:50,760
Speaker 1: he has. You know, we got to bounce back. It's

2486
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:54,000
Speaker 1: a really good team. Talked a little bit, not so

2487
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:56,720
Speaker 1: much overlap with Rabel, but is seeing how they they

2488
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 1: the Ravens prey on bad football and that's you know,

2489
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,200
Speaker 1: something I know they're trying to instill here, but sounds

2490
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:05,000
Speaker 1: like that's definitely something they're trying to avoid, is the

2491
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 1: negative plays, the turnovers, all those kind of things. But

2492
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: everybody seems excited. I mean, Morgan was talk to him too,

2493
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 1: Garrett Bradberry as well. Just turning the page and I

2494
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: think everybody acknowledged, like, you know, we lost a tough game,

2495
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 1: but we're still a good team. We all still believe

2496
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 1: in each other and what we're gonna do. But we

2497
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:23,800
Speaker 1: got to pull up back together to play the Ravens

2498
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:26,920
Speaker 1: this weekend. I on Evan, I'll let him reveal the content,

2499
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:29,000
Speaker 1: but he was talking to Christian Barmo for a while.

2500
01:53:29,120 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 5: So, oh, I can only imagine how many times you

2501
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,879
Speaker 5: got help. Now that one, to me is much more palatable.

2502
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 5: All right, the player, Oh yeah, right, right, right, right now.

2503
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 7: Different.

2504
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a weekly thing. But but

2505
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 1: it was funny when even came over, He's like, he's

2506
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 1: in a bad place. So so yeah, you know, I

2507
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:48,280
Speaker 1: tried to get back quick. We had a couple other

2508
01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: conversations going on, and we had to talk to some

2509
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 1: of the guys in locker room stuf. But it was

2510
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 1: good otherwise.

2511
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:55,519
Speaker 2: So back in the day when Belichick was coach, if

2512
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 2: it was midweek and a guy was in a walking boot,

2513
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 2: he probably wouldn't show up in the locker.

2514
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 1: Room, right, I know, Well, I mean and and and

2515
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 1: that's what I thought at first, And honestly, I was like,

2516
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm okay to say this right. I mean it happened

2517
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:07,599
Speaker 1: during little open locker and we walked right through. Everybody

2518
01:54:07,640 --> 01:54:08,000
Speaker 1: saw him.

2519
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 7: You can report what you see.

2520
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2521
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he walked through and then he but he

2522
01:54:12,040 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 1: kind of like did like the little and then walked

2523
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 1: out and I was like, that's an interesting But then

2524
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: he was back in and just kind of hanging out

2525
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:20,839
Speaker 1: at the at the center table there talking.

2526
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: No, you know, not just maybe it's just resting it.

2527
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, it might be just preventitive, you know, you want

2528
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 5: to mobilize it, keep you know whatever.

2529
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sounds like you'll be a game time

2530
01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 2: decision again.

2531
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:31,960
Speaker 7: I asked him, I would agree for.

2532
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean I would again, I would. It's a question

2533
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,080
Speaker 1: for Vrabel and I know he probably wouldn't give you

2534
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 1: the response you want, but you know, do the coaching

2535
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:40,840
Speaker 1: staff consider, you know, we're trying to win the battle

2536
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:42,680
Speaker 1: or win the war here and this is you know,

2537
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:43,880
Speaker 1: it's it going to be great for him to go

2538
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: out there and play sixty snaps trying to tackle Derrick

2539
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:49,160
Speaker 1: Henry on twenty or thirty of them, Like, I don't know,

2540
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:52,360
Speaker 1: it's some they're probably thinking about. But Chad Muma was

2541
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:54,360
Speaker 1: there as well, so he is getting ready to go

2542
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 1: out there to practice. I'd be surprised to spilling practices.

2543
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 2: How big is Muma.

2544
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: He's kind of like a lot of their linebackers, not

2545
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 1: that I probably like six two thirty in that range.

2546
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 1: Is not a huge guy, more of a runner. I

2547
01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:10,839
Speaker 1: know he was was a wyoming guy like Logan Wilson,

2548
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, the mobile inside linebacker's got like the llis

2549
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 1: kind of listed six. That's a little bigger than I

2550
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,960
Speaker 1: was thought, actually thirty nine to be inact. But that's

2551
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 1: didn't I mean, he walked by me, But that sounds

2552
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:25,240
Speaker 1: about right. I played a little bit. I watched a

2553
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: little hit on the edge of the tiny bit. One

2554
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 1: of those linebackers that can do at all. So we'll see.

2555
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,160
Speaker 1: I love pulse thing about him maybe being a you know,

2556
01:55:32,200 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 1: at least getting thrown right in on special teams. Yeah,

2557
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, give some depth. Yeah, so we'll see what

2558
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 1: the uh what the injury reports like today and how

2559
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: many of these guys are banged up and actually make

2560
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 1: it out there.

2561
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. So a crowded locker room, music playing.

2562
01:55:47,760 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 1: No, no music playing, But you know there were Patriots

2563
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: content team handing out like stockings. There were some There

2564
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,880
Speaker 1: was also some some NCAA bracket going on. I don't

2565
01:55:57,880 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 1: know if we're going to do that again this year. I

2566
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: think we did it last year, right with the with

2567
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: the NCAA football playoffs.

2568
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:03,400
Speaker 5: We did I definitely did not.

2569
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 1: You did not.

2570
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 7: I did not.

2571
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 2: All right?

2572
01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 7: You remember I would, I mean I would pretty firm.

2573
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:11,480
Speaker 1: I would have remembermember if I wanted to watch remember

2574
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 1: doing some of that stuff. So that's just you know,

2575
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,200
Speaker 1: active time of year with with the holidays and everything.

2576
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: So a lot lot going.

2577
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 2: On, A lot going on. Okay, all right, so.

2578
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: I interrupt something big that was going on.

2579
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 5: No, No, just like going over some more of the

2580
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,120
Speaker 5: stuff people left over from the bills.

2581
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 2: Still people want to talk about the bills. Yeah, uh,

2582
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:36,040
Speaker 2: let's see what uh Danny and Daytona wants to talk about.

2583
01:56:36,240 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 2: What's up? Danny? Did I hit that right? Danny?

2584
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 4: Oh?

2585
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 2: There you go.

2586
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 20: If I love you guys, hear me now? So I

2587
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 20: was thinking, so what if this year's here's kind of

2588
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 20: a hypothetical. I don't usually come out with these, but

2589
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 20: uh so one pitch that maybe held the defense. What

2590
01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 20: do you think about this take? If you know, Mike

2591
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 20: Rabel goes back and to the jar and kind of

2592
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 20: reaches for JJ Watt. I know he's on television. I

2593
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 20: know he's probably getting paid millions of dollars doing CBS

2594
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 20: broadcast like he was doing on Sunday, But what do

2595
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 20: you guys think about JJ Watson? Then another candidate, if

2596
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:16,560
Speaker 20: you can remember, the Patriots did do this. It wasn't

2597
01:57:16,600 --> 01:57:19,760
Speaker 20: with Mike Brabell. Belichick did this back in twenty fourteen.

2598
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 20: They went did the same thing. They went and reached

2599
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 20: and got Stephen Jackson in December.

2600
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, how did that work out?

2601
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 9: We went to Yeah, it wasn't.

2602
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 20: Yeah, it wasn't a great It wasn't a great thing,

2603
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 20: but we did do that. And then the other person,

2604
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 20: what about if they threw the bag at Aaron Donald

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01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,720
Speaker 20: I'm talking about basically allowed him to come in do

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01:57:38,760 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 20: whatever he wanted to do on defense and threw the

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01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 20: bag at him. I know he's he's lost a lot

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01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 20: of weight, he's not that playing weight. But what do

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01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 20: you think about those two kids, JJ and Aaron Donald?

2610
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 20: Two two definite Hall of fame at all pro guys.

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01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like these big guys, once they stopped playing, they

2612
01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 2: either lose a lot of weight or they put on

2613
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 2: a lot of weak them. They're just not the same

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01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 2: as when they were playing.

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01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:08,200
Speaker 7: You know, I thought there's no other eating skinless chicken.

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01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:09,280
Speaker 1: He's got glass.

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01:58:09,320 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 2: I mean even even a quarterback. Rivers came in. He

2618
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 2: had a gut, you know. Yeah, So I'm.

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01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: Gonna kicker.

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01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 2: At those interests. At those high contact positions like linemen,

2621
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 2: it's it's tough to pick time off and come back

2622
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:24,840
Speaker 2: like that.

2623
01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: I thought he was pulling towards Matthew Judo.

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01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 2: Well, Judah has been playing, That's definitely.

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01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. He just got cut today. Yeah,

2626
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 5: wanted to bring him in for a veteran depth piece.

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01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. That that that's a whole different story.

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01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 7: Roll sure, I mean J J. Watt hasn't played.

2629
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:41,960
Speaker 2: When you've been on the shelf for that long. Yeah, yeah,

2630
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 2: you're not in playing shape. But it'll take you a

2631
01:58:44,000 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 2: month just to get in playing shape. Robert is in Henderson.

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01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 2: I assume that's Las Vegas. What's up Robert?

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01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 4: Hey, Robert either.

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01:58:56,160 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 21: I had a couple of quick questions just I was wondering.

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01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 21: So during the Bills game, I feel like Stefan Diggs

2636
01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 21: is not They're like not using, utilizing him correctly, like

2637
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 21: he's being somewhat phased out of the office. I'm not

2638
01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 21: being phased out, but he's not in consistently as a

2639
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,680
Speaker 21: wide receiver one, and it seemed like they're not. The

2640
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:24,360
Speaker 21: receivers weren't getting separation, and I just felt like he

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01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 21: could have been in more often to be getting open

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01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:30,400
Speaker 21: for Drake may. I don't know if this has been

2643
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 21: a if you guys talked about this or not.

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01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 2: Ivan here, Like, I don't know what they would do.

2645
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 7: It wasn't getting open, yeah, but was.

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01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 2: It because of single coverage or were they doubling.

2647
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:41,880
Speaker 5: They doubled him frequently in this game. They made sure

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01:59:41,960 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 5: that he didn't do what he did in the first game. Yeah,

2649
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:47,120
Speaker 5: I mean just from a layman's perspective, But I think

2650
01:59:48,640 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 5: this is another one of those things, like it just

2651
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:53,040
Speaker 5: has to be someone's fault, Like the Bills did a

2652
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 5: good job. They did something entirely different in the second

2653
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:57,600
Speaker 5: half and they did in the first half, and the

2654
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 5: Patriots weren't ready to deal with it. Sometimes the other

2655
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:04,560
Speaker 5: team wins, and I think this is as simple as that.

2656
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:06,400
Speaker 5: I don't think it's a blueprint because I don't think

2657
02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 5: it's just easy to just snap your fingers and change

2658
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:12,560
Speaker 5: everything you're doing at halftime. That's what Sean McDermott did

2659
02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 5: in this game. I give him a lot of credit.

2660
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think. I think fans just want

2661
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:21,960
Speaker 2: to find the reasons to understand are they fixable? Is

2662
02:00:21,960 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 2: this you know, is it something that we can't overcome,

2663
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 2: or is.

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02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:27,440
Speaker 7: It anything is fixable?

2665
02:00:27,640 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 2: Well not for all teams.

2666
02:00:29,120 --> 02:00:32,680
Speaker 5: No, I'm talking about Yeah, as long as you have

2667
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 5: a quarterback who's who's good, anything is fixable.

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02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:37,800
Speaker 7: Drake May didn't play well Sunday.

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02:00:37,920 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 5: I mean, he's played thirteen pretty good games and he

2670
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 5: played this one well.

2671
02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:43,880
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. If you just mean, if the

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02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:46,600
Speaker 2: offense had just been a little better in the second half,

2673
02:00:46,640 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 2: you win.

2674
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,840
Speaker 7: The games in four yeah, not so good games, you.

2675
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 2: Win the game if you're just a little better in

2676
02:00:51,680 --> 02:00:53,080
Speaker 2: the second half offensively.

2677
02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:55,080
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, that's right. You lose.

2678
02:00:55,360 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 2: It's that simple.

2679
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 1: When you lose, it's easy to lose sight of how

2680
02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:00,040
Speaker 1: it looked when it was good. And you know, this

2681
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 1: is a team that is still good and can play

2682
02:01:02,200 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 1: well and has better talent than they showed them. But

2683
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 1: they got to execute.

2684
02:01:06,120 --> 02:01:08,880
Speaker 2: I wonder, like you know, like there's a lot of

2685
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:11,760
Speaker 2: good teams that have lost the bad teams this year. Like,

2686
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 2: what are those fans say after those games? I guess

2687
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 2: it's the same.

2688
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, rights one of them, Yeah exactly. They lost to

2689
02:01:18,920 --> 02:01:21,440
Speaker 5: a two win Raiders team. Yeah, I mean, it just

2690
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 5: happened so long ago that people forget that it happened.

2691
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 2: Well, we didn't know we were good back then.

2692
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:27,360
Speaker 5: But we're still eleven and three and you lost to

2693
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 5: the Raiders, who have the like the second worst point

2694
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 5: differential in football, to only Tennessee.

2695
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:34,280
Speaker 1: And there's been some of those on the Brady Ara too.

2696
02:01:34,440 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 1: The for Miami loss.

2697
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 5: It happens, it happens.

2698
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 7: Mike, Yeah, yes, Mike, so my name.

2699
02:01:44,160 --> 02:01:47,640
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Raven's coming up on

2700
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 2: Sunday night. It's gonna be a good one. But we'll

2701
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 2: have a lot more to talk about tomorrow. I'm sure.

2702
02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 2: Anything else that makes it no picks tomorrow. Oh and

2703
02:01:58,240 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 2: the Baltimore information for the party you have.

2704
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I said it yesterday. We can say it

2705
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 1: again tomorrow.

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02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll say it tomorrow. Save that for tomorrow. Yeah,

2707
02:02:05,640 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 2: so that'll be a big tease for tomorrow.

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02:02:07,160 --> 02:02:08,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, they have to make sure they come back and listen.

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02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thanks for listening today.

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Speaker 16: Hey this is Alex.

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