1 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Episode five of the official Yellowstone Podcast. I am your host, 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Bobby Bones. The first four episodes have gotten great feedback, 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, a lot of downloads, so thank 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: you so much for that. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: This has been crazy. 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: At how much you guys wanted this, and I think 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: I've done an adequate job. So the fact that you 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: guys are listening so much means you just you love Yellowstone, 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: which is completely understandable. This episode has Chief Thomas Rainwater, 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: whose real name is Gil Birmingham, major character, and I 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: just talked to him about how he's able to be 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: like a bad guy and a good guy. And obviously 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: he's very cerebral as an actor, so he doesn't only 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: see it like I do watching where I'm like bad guy, 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: good guy, bad guy, good guy. But Gil, like the 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: actual person, has a crazy journey getting into his career 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: as an actor. He was an engineer, then he kind 18 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: of got into acting and there's some bodybuilding in there. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear about all this been and a few 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: f Taylor Sheridan's movies Hell or High Water, wind River 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: has had a roll in a bunch of other big 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: time shows. His character in Yellowstone again, it's so awesome 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: because he took you on the journey of I like him, 24 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't like him. I don't know if I do 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: or not I trust him, I don't trust him. So 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: we were pumped to get him on the podcast. You 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: can follow him on Instagram at Gil Birmingham Here he 28 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: is Chief Thomas Rainwater aka real name Gil Birmingham. Hey, Gil, 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: I'd like to say this that why I'm such a 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: fan of your work is because through Yellowstone in general, 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: and I've seen you and other things too, but you 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: were able to both be a bad guy and a 33 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: good guy and that there is some range to that 34 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: that I don't even understand. And as an actor, whenever 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: you're a we think you're a bad guy, right, were like, 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: Oh the Dutons is it? Whenever you're bad? Are you 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: playing that at all? Different facial expressions? What's the difference 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: in playing a bad guy and a good guy even 39 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: though it's the same person. 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: Oh. 41 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: I always find it interesting that people want to categorize 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: the bad guy's bay and the antithesis of who the 43 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 4: the anti hero for example, and Yellowstone is my approach 44 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: character development is always to comfort the heart and from 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 4: the intention of the agenda that character has, and when 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: people come up and tell me you make such a 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: bad such a great bad guy, always reminded him that 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 4: I haven't killed anybody. 49 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 5: On the show. Who's really the bad guy here. It's 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 5: the structure of the storyline. 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 4: But I don't think any actor really to fully accept 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: the character. And you probably know this to some degree, 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: and you're all experienced that as you're playing the character, 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: you can't judge them for whatever it is that they are. 55 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: They think they're right, they think they're justified for what 56 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 4: they do. But my development of that character was always 57 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: for the interest of my people who save the land, 58 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: and this was just an obstacle Dunton family and which 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: I was going to approach that. 60 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: My theory about Chief was if you did his story 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: from his perspective, he would have been the good guy, 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: much like in The Avengers, you know, whenever you got 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: the guy with the rings and he's wasn't it dan O's. 64 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: I think if you shot Danos a story, he'd been 65 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: a good guy because he's trying to save the earth. 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: I think had you shot Chief Rainwater from his perspective, 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: he would have been the good guy. And the Dunn's 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: would have been the bad guys. Again, like you said, 69 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: it's all perspective. There was that transition during the show 70 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: where we start to warm up because again it's shot 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: from the Duntons, so we're like, oh, this guy could 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: be against the Duntons, so we're against him. But then 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: you became like this wonderfully warm guy without really changing. 74 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: I loved your character when they told you what you 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: were going to do for the show. How did they 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: approach you with the character? 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 5: Oh, you're Taylor, the brilliant writer of the show. Creator. 78 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 5: He approached me with a yellowstone back in twenty sixteen. 79 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: I had no concept of what in storyline was, but 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: we were filming Hell or High Water and he told me, 81 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: I've got this character for this series that I've developed 82 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: that I cast you as. So I didn't know the 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: nature of the depth of the character or what it 84 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: is that he had in mind. But after Hell or 85 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: High Water I did wedd River. I was all on 86 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: board or all things Taylor Sheridan. 87 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: Whenever you are reading a script and you realize something 88 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: big is happening with your character, something that is paramount 89 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: to the storyline, were you ever shocked while going through 90 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: the Yellowstone Script through all the seasons. 91 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 5: I don't know that. 92 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 4: I was maybe not so much an op and Thomas 93 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: Rainwaters storyline outside of the I think it was season 94 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 4: three or four where we had angela blue thunder trying 95 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: to undermine his chairmanship. I wasn't expecting that. That's what 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: great television is is drama. I think a lot of 97 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: the surprises really were in reference to the Duttons, because 98 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 4: there was so much, so much more drama lyric, you know, 99 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: in terms of people that were trying to take the 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: land over and the. 101 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 5: Transition as you were. 102 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: You know, reference was really the understanding that Thomas Rainwater 103 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 4: had more in collin with John Dutton than neither one 104 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: of them maybe understood. And I think it was so 105 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 4: much it was as much summed up in a line 106 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 4: where we want the same things for different. 107 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 5: Reasons, and that was the preservation of the land. 108 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: I think that was the highest integrity of character for 109 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 4: both of those characters. 110 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: Can you explain to me, because you're a wildly intelligent guy, 111 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: obviously to play the character that you play with the 112 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: nuance that you play it, but then a petrochemical engineer, 113 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: can you tell me what a petrochemical engineer. 114 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 4: That was back in the eighties, and I got directed 115 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: to a format that my parents thought was going to 116 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 4: be something I could do make a decent living, and 117 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: it was an engineering. 118 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 5: And I just had an opportunity at the time. 119 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 4: And when you're young, you're just looking for something to 120 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: support yourself, and that seemed like a good one at 121 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 4: the time. It really didn't speak to me because I 122 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: only did it for about five years. Most of my 123 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 4: life has been windows or doors that were opened and 124 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 4: I walked through them and we'll see what happens here. 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: It seems like you've had a wonderfully amazing Swiss Army 126 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: Knife of a life and career. 127 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 3: You're so good at a lot of things. 128 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: I was also reading about you, like bodybuilding, being just 129 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: extremely ripped up. So not only smart, good looking guy, 130 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: also crazy muscles. So what was the bodybuilding phase. 131 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 3: Of your life? 132 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: I think I've just I'm had somewhat of a suppressed 133 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: kind of upbringing. 134 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 5: It was very isolated. 135 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: I had a very religious mother and a military father, 136 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: and there was a lot of containment and it just 137 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 4: wasn't my spirit. I was more of an artist or 138 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: a creative I picked up the guitar at ten and 139 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 4: that's really what I thought I wanted to do with 140 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 4: my life, was to be a musician. If I used 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: to just train their goals gym the Meca Bodybuilding on 142 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 4: it in the Vins, California, and I had saved up 143 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 4: a little bit of money and I wanted to explore 144 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 4: something different. It just fast me that you could take 145 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 4: the human form and cheap it like a Greek statue. 146 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: So it seemed like a healthy lifestyle for one. And 147 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: I was there with all these examples of people that 148 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 4: were doing that, and I was intrigued by what you 149 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: could do with the body. And it actually was the 150 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: injury into my acting profession because I got scouted in 151 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: the gym, did a couple of works on a music video. 152 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 5: I had a great time. My girlfriend at the time. 153 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 4: Was an aspiring actress and she suggested I started taking 154 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 4: some classes and that's where it started. 155 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: To do something in art. As I've learned through the years, 156 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: it's ebbs and flows, really unsteady, also wildly rewarding. And 157 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: for me, I have a massive insecurity complex. I always 158 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: think I'm not good enough to leave a job like 159 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: an engineer to go into the world of the arts. 160 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: The income is not steady. Was that ever a concern 161 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: for you because there wasn't stability? 162 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: We all, anybody in the arts has a level of insecurity, 163 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 4: of feeling that you're not enough. I guess that's one 164 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: of the great challenges of propelling yourself to do something 165 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: that you're definitely scared initially, but the excitement of the 166 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 4: potential is more compelling. I guess I saved up my 167 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: money from the engineering and I knew I had some 168 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: leeway there to be able to explore this other thing, 169 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: and then it led to other work more along the 170 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: lines of entertainment and understanding. I guess accepting that notion, 171 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 4: how committed are you to this that you're willing to 172 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: make all the sacrifices for who knows how long? 173 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 5: It was a long time. 174 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: Before I was able to support myself in my profession 175 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: now a good ten years, twelve years, and. 176 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 5: Learned to live very sparsely. I've always lived like I'm 177 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: in a college dorm, so I didn't have big overhead expenses. 178 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: What is your favorite book? 179 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 5: I would say The Power of Now. 180 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: I reard again recently for like second time it. 181 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that really was a pivotal conscious surn around 182 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 5: for me, and it's still I've gone through it a 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 5: couple of times. Just the reminder of many of those 184 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: things that Cartold talked about being present, and there's really 185 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 5: nothing else that exists besides that. 186 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: That's it. 187 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: That's the only thing that exists, is right the second 188 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: I had such a struggle with that until I read 189 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: it the. 190 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: First time, and I had a good experience with it. 191 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: But then when I read it the second time, it's 192 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 1: almost like watching a great movie with a ton of 193 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: nuance in it. In the second time, you catch a 194 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: lot of the things. And when I read it the 195 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: second time, that was exactly what I was going to say, 196 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: was the only thing we actually have is right now. 197 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a real transitional awareness for me that 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: still I try to remind myself every day. 199 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: What from your childhood did you bring into the character? 200 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: If anything? 201 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: Oddly enough, I had shared my life with Taylor to 202 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 4: some extent, and then I read the script and the 203 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: characters for purposes of protection. Mccarris didn't really and let 204 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: us know we were even native, you know, until I was 205 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: like fourteen. And that's exactly the way Thomas Rainwater was 206 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 4: presented that he didn't realize he was native until he 207 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 4: was eighteen. He'saw the adoption papers. That was amazing parallel 208 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 4: for me, this is my life. 209 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 5: You know. Taylor's so great at that. 210 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 4: He's such an observing person and he really knows how 211 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: to integrate either personal. 212 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 5: History, his own experiences, the nature of. 213 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 4: The way he observes the world and the climate that 214 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: we're in socially, politically, and environmentally. 215 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 5: I thought that was pretty interesting. 216 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: It seems to me that Taylor's very hands on in 217 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: a very positive way, just from the other folks from 218 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: either this podcast or in other areas that I know 219 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: that have worked with Taylor. Would you say that is accurate? 220 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: And what is his approach like person to person? Is 221 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: it different for every single person. 222 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 4: I always see knownan since twenty sixteen, and they've had 223 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: me out the ranch there in their home several times. 224 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: I don't really see him interacting any differently. He might 225 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: have more of a he did debate if he's talking 226 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 4: to a production company or other producers. He's a very 227 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: strong willed individual and very straightforward shooting. I wish I 228 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 4: could talk the way because at least in the way 229 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: that he puts it doubt on paper. I have an 230 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 4: appreciation of understanding in my own mind the nature of 231 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 4: what it takes to be where he is, and knowing 232 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: a bit of a history about where he came from. 233 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 4: He's really one of those racts of riches story, you know, 234 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 4: being an action for twenty years himself, and it's such 235 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: an inspiration to really see somebody that steps out and says, 236 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: I'm going to try something. Maybe that's what I related 237 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: to from my engineering to my body bilding into my 238 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: acting and just taking the risks and then finding out 239 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: all the amazing kind of potential and talent you might 240 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: with this latent there for for the longest time and 241 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 4: now you're actualizing it. 242 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: How far in advance would you guys get scripts up 243 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: into this last season, which we didn't get any scripts. 244 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: We would get them probably a month before we started shooting. 245 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: The last season was. 246 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 5: Really odd because they were all redacted scripts. 247 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 4: They were really keeping it undercover, so you would get 248 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: the scenes you were in, but you wouldn't get the 249 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 4: storyline any of the other characters. 250 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 5: That was fortunate for me because Thomas Randwater didn't really have. 251 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: That in the interactions with any of the other characters, 252 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 4: but John Dutt. That was really a new experience for us, 253 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 4: for a group of people to spend seven years together 254 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: for the first time, We're not going to know what 255 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: everybody else is doing. 256 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: At what point in the show did you start to 257 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: get recognized as your character? 258 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 5: Oh? What's interesting because it occurred in different regions. 259 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 4: Not so much in southern California, but I've traveled to Australia, 260 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: New Zealand, Canada, and I'll have these fan bases that 261 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: are approach me in these areas that I wouldn't think 262 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: I don't even know what the go stone is globally, 263 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: but I wouldn't think of them as being particularly familiar 264 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 4: with the show. But oftentimes it's areas that are either 265 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: as the industry in cattle, ranching, oil. Those are the 266 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: big demographics for the show. Oddly enough, it seems to 267 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 4: be growing even though the show is completed itself. I 268 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: don't know if people are catching up to it now, 269 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 4: but yeah, it's been interesting. 270 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: Now that the show is over and it's time for 271 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: you to go and find your next job, there have 272 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: been some pretty cool opportunities to come across that. 273 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: Do you read through a bunch do you audition? 274 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: How does that work now now that you're a known 275 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: entity and you're really good? 276 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: So is that helping now? 277 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: It's a real roller coaster. I thank for anybody in 278 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 4: the industry. You can feel like you're really hot. You 279 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: can be at a big show and I reflect sometimes and 280 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: what they call the Oscar curse. You would think your 281 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: career is just them to take off right, and time 282 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 4: after time you'll hear of ours that things were dead 283 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 4: for like a couple of years. For me personally, I 284 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: know the industry is changing. I know there's a big 285 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: pullback in general across the board. There's all these AI concerns. 286 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: Production companies are merging and the financials are being pulled back, 287 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: so not as many productions are going to be done. 288 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 5: I just have to trust, have patients, and trust that 289 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 5: something will pop up. They really are practiced. 290 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Me. 291 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: Nothing in particular that I've read at this point has 292 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: really made me feel like, yeah, I really want to 293 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: do that. 294 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Are you good at reading a script and knowing if 295 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: something is great and grabs you? 296 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: No remember reading Hail or High Water and I was going, oh, yeah, 297 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: this is a fairly good script. Jeff working with Jeff Bridges. 298 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: Now I'll being Crispine been thought okay, I don't know 299 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: where this movie's going to go, and never sitting there 300 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: at the Oscars. 301 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 3: So you played Ben in Heller high Water? What was 302 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: that experience? 303 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: Like, justai, I have a hundred questions, so I just 304 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: want to ask a very vague one, giving me like 305 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: a an you know, a memory from Hell or high 306 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Water that I think was cool. 307 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: I think, well, there's several. One that sticks out to 308 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: me is that Jeff and I had about two weeks. 309 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: I mean we shot that show in like five weeks. 310 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: There was a really small window and when I learned 311 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: about all the machinations behind the scenes, it just amazes 312 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: me that it got made. Originally, it got turned down 313 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: from a bunch of people, and then Appierceder came on 314 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 4: and said, the script right now is it's got a 315 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: stake to it right now, stick it off the market 316 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: and then we'll reintroduce it. And we had a producer 317 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: that stepped in and financed it. But to develop a 318 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 4: relationship that we had like good friends, been working together 319 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: for twenty years, and let it develop that in a 320 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: couple of weeks. It was the music because Jeff is 321 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 4: a musician. I'm a musician, and it was when we 322 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: would jam together, there was really a connection which was 323 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 4: just perfect and just our improv stuff. 324 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 5: There was a bit of improv between us. It still tickles, right. 325 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 5: I just watched it. 326 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: I guess it just got put on Showtime or HBO 327 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: or something, and I'll just get drawn into it, not 328 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: just for the experience of the memory, but just how 329 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 4: really great a script that was, and how great everybody 330 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: in it was. 331 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk music for a second, Mount rushmore a favorite artist. 332 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Give me your four favorite It's going to impossible, because 333 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: somebody that knows music, loves music, and plays music. It's 334 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: an impossible question, and I'm putting it on you here 335 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: for your four favorite artists of all time. 336 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 5: Oh, I think maybe number one have to be these 337 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 5: raged idiots. 338 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: No, you don't want a power washer to that faces 339 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: out of there, out of there, Cancel, cancel, cancel ansel Yeah. 340 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 5: I listen. I was a guitar player. You know, it's 341 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 5: Jimmy Hendrix and affected me. 342 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 4: I was so focused on and I have some summar 343 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 4: regret to that because I wasn't the ponder of lyrics 344 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 4: and the power of the language was Jimmy Henry, x Ce, 345 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: Ray Vaughn, Eric Clapton, Joe Softrianna here you know, Eric Johnson, 346 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 4: all the guitar heroes, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, such a. 347 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: Geek of rock, classic rock guitar. 348 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: There is a Stevie Ray Vaughan clips one of my 349 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: favorite ever where he's playing Austin City Limits and his 350 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: guitar string breaks and he's able to change a string 351 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: while he's still playing this solo. That to me is 352 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: why I love Steve or a vaugh because he was 353 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: he was so natural with his instrument. It was like 354 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: a body part that he can again, he can change 355 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: a string as he's playing. 356 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: Me, if I'm changing a string, I need ten minutes. 357 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: I need to retune. I gotta get my tune to 358 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 3: put it on my knee. I got the whole thing there. 359 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, and with Jimmy Hendrix, I'm left handed. 360 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: I play left handed, but Jimmy Hendrix kind of screwed 361 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: me up because he played upside down left handed, so 362 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: I didn't. He played like in the most difficult left 363 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: handed way where I actually bought a left handed guitar 364 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: and switched it around. But yeah, no, I am I 365 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: am a music nerd to where when you mentioned all 366 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: those guys like that excites me a whole lot. 367 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: How often you play now? 368 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 5: Not nearly enough anymore. You probably know this. When you're 369 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 5: playing in a band and you're digging out, that's when 370 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: you play the most. That's when you're on top of 371 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 5: your chops and everything. 372 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 4: I always feel bad thinking about having a talent that 373 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 4: I'm exercising more regularly. So I haven't really been playing 374 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 4: outside of certainly not out of bands. Maybe on set 375 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: it was jamming, not like I really should or one two. 376 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: That's super cool that you're so musical. Was there a 377 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: dream of being in a band. Were you ever in 378 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: a band as a kid? I know you said he played, 379 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: but would you ever get together with friends and like 380 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: think you'd make it? 381 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: Per a second? 382 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was my dream. 383 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: I still when people talked about having a purpose in 384 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: life or what was their dream, it was the moment 385 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: I picked up at guitar at ten years old. 386 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 5: I said this is it. In my naivete, I said 387 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 5: I'm going to be a rock star. 388 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 4: So it's funny that I got detoured off into another direction. 389 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 5: I lived vicariously through these musicians. 390 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 4: I met Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban the other night 391 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: of the charity function were doing, and I chatted with Keith. 392 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 5: I was just sharing that with and I said, you 393 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 5: played with such joy and freedom. It's everything that I 394 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 5: imagine what music means when I play it. And he 395 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 5: said the critical thing that he always remembers is to 396 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: play the playfulness of playing like any other thing. Like 397 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 5: you'll do something if it's forge and music as a kid, 398 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: and you did it because you loved it. Until if 399 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 5: it became a profession, then there's all these other things 400 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 5: and attachments, lots of abilities and distract you from it. 401 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 5: That really resonated for me. 402 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: Keith Urban is actually a really good friend of mine. 403 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, to watch him play if it's for ten 404 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: people or for ten thousand, and did he play at 405 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: the event. 406 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: I guess that you were there. Did he play in 407 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 3: front of you? 408 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: No, he didn't. They were making the appearance. 409 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: We were doing a charity wall down in Fort Worth, Texas, 410 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: the celebrity cutting competition that they do every year. 411 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 5: Always yes, well, the sharing is actually right now it's 412 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: raising money now at this point, it was for kids 413 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 5: with cancer. They're trying to build a hospital there. 414 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 4: It's for worths of people that have to come in 415 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 4: and you don't have to drive all away to Dallas. 416 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: When there's a demographic of people, think you really use 417 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 5: the hospital. 418 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: So there. 419 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a number of actors that come to 420 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: compete in a cutting competition from Yellowstone into the other 421 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 4: Show's Lioness nineteen twenty three. 422 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun. 423 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: And my point with that was that he does he 424 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: plays if it's ten people, if it's in a room, 425 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: he has so much fun. It's just like he lights 426 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: up like a child even now when he plays guitar, 427 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: and you look at that and you go, man, the 428 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: inspiration somebody who still loves what they do so much 429 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: even though they've done it at the highest level, but 430 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: they still Like I've been to his house and as 431 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: he has a studio in his house and to watch 432 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: him create music. To watch somebody still love something that 433 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: much and they've done it for that long, Like, to me, 434 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: that is inspiring, and I would think that he has 435 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: a creative yourself. It's really cool to see people love 436 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: what they do even when they've reached really high levels 437 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: doing it. 438 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 5: It's the sense of belief we have in ourselves. 439 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: Right, he can actually be really good at something and 440 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: not have that confidence yourself. Everybody else around you can 441 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: see it, but it hasn't embedded itself and you for 442 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 4: you to step out and actually take the risks of 443 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 4: exploring exactly what your potential are. 444 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: This I'm talking to myself here. 445 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: You're talking to me too, though, don't worry, you're talking 446 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: to both of us. I have two final questions for you, 447 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: and this is the most cliche question ever, but I 448 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: just like talking to you. I feel like you're a 449 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: super smart guy. So I'm gonna follow your advice here. 450 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: What's a good show now that you either just finished 451 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: or you're in the middle of where you're like, Man, 452 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: this is amazing. I need to recommend it to everybody. 453 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 5: Well, it'll sound like I'm biased. I love all of 454 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 5: Taylor's shows. 455 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 4: They're so unique and it's incredibly amazing how it can 456 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: create a world all separate from one another's. And I 457 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: just finished Landman with Billy Bob Thornton, who I'm a big. 458 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 5: Fan of as well. That was really worth watching. And 459 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 5: then lion This lion Ass was awesome. Yeah, it's just 460 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 5: your kick ass I. 461 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: Really appreciate the time. I am a big fan of 462 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: the agency. If you watch that, by the way, it 463 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: is a plus elite as well on Hulu. It's Taylor Sheridan, 464 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: Oh man, it is It's Cia It yeah, land manag 465 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: just starting for us because we don't like to wait 466 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: week to week because we're creatures of we like to 467 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: have it all at once. 468 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: So but the agency just finished. That would be the 469 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: one I would recommend back to you. Not to check recommendations, 470 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: but I'm a big fan, So thank you for spending 471 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 3: a half hour with me. This has been awesome. 472 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: I hope you weren't totally annoyed by all my questions 473 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: about your life in detail. But keep up the great 474 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: work and I can't wait to see whatever you're in next. 475 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: But the real pleasure to meet you and chat with 476 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 4: you as well. You're a great little interviewer there, Bobby. 477 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: Oh Well, thank you. You'll have a great rest of 478 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: the day. 479 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 5: Thank you you too. 480 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: The Yellowstone Official podcast hosted by Me, Bobby Bones and 481 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: brought to you by iHeartMedia Podcasts and MTV Entertainment Studios. 482 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: Big shout out to executive producers Jason Reid, Lindsey Hoffman, 483 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: Carl katl and Kevin O'Connell. Also our senior manager of 484 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: podcast Marketing, Ali Canner Grab for keeping the word out 485 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: and of course a big thanks to Will Pearson, president 486 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: of iHeartMedia Podcast, for him supporting this show. 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