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Speaker 1: On the Doe Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: changing it with the cast. Hey, welcome to the Beck

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Speaker 1: Dol Cast. My name is Jamie, my name is Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: and this is our podcast where we talk about the

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Speaker 1: role of women in movies. Sometimes it is okay, wait,

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Speaker 1: I just got really sidetracked, okay from what we haven't

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Speaker 1: even I don't know. I just you know, like my

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Speaker 1: only one is the correct one. Well, a lot about

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Speaker 1: fourteen of my thoughts right now are in reference to

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Speaker 1: your braids, which, at the time of this recording, this

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Speaker 1: is your last day of being thirty years old. A lot, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: your last day of three How do you feel? I

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Speaker 1: feel fine. As I've mentioned before, I am a woman

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Speaker 1: of advancing years. I hate you round. You make it

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Speaker 1: one for a few weeks, so much wiser. Right, What

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Speaker 1: was the correct way for remember, oh, this is our

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Speaker 1: podcast about the role of women in movies. It is

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Speaker 1: based around the Bechdel test, which movie must have a

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Speaker 1: about something that is other than a man. Almost never

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Speaker 1: that didn't pass either, which is like we were just

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Speaker 1: you're talking about like murder ordering men, I would argue

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Speaker 1: or filling men for sport. Surely for sport. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: man who say dangerous thing open mics. You've got an

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Speaker 1: open can of Mike's hard lemonade. Whoa holy ship? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not wrong, You're not wrong. And now today I'm

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Speaker 1: where I was drinking wine. It's like, you know, you

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Speaker 1: not like operating heavy machinery. But like remember when um

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Speaker 1: we should introduce our guests before we yea we got

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Speaker 1: I was trying to be really good about not speaking

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Speaker 1: before my intro um you podcast etiquette. We heard you

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Speaker 1: who else is drinking Mike's Hard at all? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Michael Bays two thousand seven Transformers, and boy are we

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Speaker 1: to write about Transformers. This is this horribly written paper

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Speaker 1: that like, oh, these are bad characters who we're not

422
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: really supposed to like, but you don't get to do that,

423
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: and then also treat that character like ship as the

424
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: movie to treat her like so the scene where she

425
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: like pops the hood and it's like seeing what's wrong

426
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: with this like shitty camaro. It's just like lingering male gaze,

427
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: headless women of Hollywood style, just like, oh, look at

428
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: her hot abs, look at her nice little boobs, look

429
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: at her ass, Just like a very objectifying several seconds

430
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: worth of screen time where you're just like, yeah, I

431
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: remember that scene. It's dark. It's pretty much the only

432
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: scene from the movie. I think maybe that's why I

433
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I feel like it was a good Yeah. Yeah,

434
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: it's kind of the only thing from the movie that

435
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: I remember, like the only actually visual thing that I'm like,

436
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: the car, yeah, totally. And and there's like, oh boy,

437
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going into Michael Bay is history

438
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: with women that's several hours long. But Megan Fox ended

439
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: up leaving the Transformers franchise after the third movie, and

440
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: she cited specifically because Michael Bay was such a verbally

441
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: abusive piece of garbage, and Kate Beckinsale said very similar

442
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: things about him when she was in Pearl Harbor. He's

443
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: also a Bay joint. Um well she you guys know

444
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: how or did you hear about her audition? I think

445
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: for her audition for this movie, he had her his

446
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: car and uh, but I was reading an article about

447
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: it where yeah, they had or washed the car, and

448
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: then I said, in fact, there were even rumors the

449
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: director filmed the entire audition. I'm like, I hope so

450
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: like it's not an audition, like right, I mean, but

451
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: like so Lea's film it if that's the point, but

452
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: then if you're just going to do it, then it's

453
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: just just for you. Also, yeah, then it was like

454
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: as evidence to incriminate him as being a horrible piece

455
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: of ship. But then how many women auditioned for this

456
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: and didn't get it that had to wash his car?

457
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: And uh, for those girls, I hope they're doing okay.

458
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 1: So here a few I'll give you some quotes from

459
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: Kate Beckinsale and then from Megan Fox pertaining to this

460
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: movie specifically. But Kate Beckinsale was in Pearl Harbor in

461
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: OH One. She said, I don't think I fit the

462
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: type of actress Michael Bay had met before. I think

463
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: he was baffled by me because my boobs weren't bigger

464
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: than my head and I wasn't blonde. I just had

465
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: my daughter and had lost weight. But I was told

466
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: that if I got the part, I'd have to work out,

467
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: and I didn't understand why in nineteen forties nurse character

468
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: would do that, which is totally fair. And Michael Bay

469
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: said at the time when this movie came out, and

470
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: also this is our Titanic reference of the episode on

471
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: Good fortunately because it is coming out of Michael Bay's mouth,

472
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: but he says, I didn't want someone who was too

473
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 1: beautiful in reference to Kate back in Sale, who is beautiful. Uh,

474
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: women feel disturbed when they see someone who's too pretty.

475
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: When you look at Titanic, Kate Winslett is pretty but

476
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: not overwhelmingly beautiful. That makes it work better for women.

477
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: You're just like, I just want to cut off my

478
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: She's insane and then furious it's bad. Here's what Megan

479
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Fox said. She first describes what you're talking about, the

480
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: having to watch her car. She then says, the first

481
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: time I ever met him, I was fifteen and an

482
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: extra on Bad Boys Too. She said, we were doing

483
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: this club scene and they brought me in and I

484
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: was wearing a stars and strap bikini and a red

485
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: cowboy hat and six inch heels, which amazing Bat Boys Too.

486
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: And they took me to Mike Bay and he approved it,

487
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: and they said, you know, Michael. She's fifteen, so you

488
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: can't consider at the bar, and she can't have a

489
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: drink in her hand. So his solution to this problem

490
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: was then having me dancing underneath a waterfall getting soaking wet.

491
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: My god, And I was in the tenth grade. And

492
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: that's a microcosm of how Michael Bay's mind works. So yeah,

493
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff on him. There's like a

494
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: good oral history of Michael Bay being terrible. Unfortunately it

495
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: only goes up to two thousand and eleven. It is

496
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: more than enough, you know how, Sometimes we're like, you're

497
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: on notice. I was gonna say we should put him

498
00:29:47,760 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: on bay Watch. Michael Bay name, Yeah, I like good.

499
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: I like. I was just like, so what I want

500
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: to see Baywatch? What? I also want to see Baywatch?

501
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're gonna. I was attempting to make a

502
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: really great pun. It clearly went over very well, you're welcome.

503
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to the bag Watch. It's like to

504
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: go to the Baywatch. Can't wait? Oh, I forgot about

505
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: the line where um miles which is sad what Wiki's

506
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: friend called Megan Fox an evil jock concubine I love,

507
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: which is my new bag. That's my stripper name to

508
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: this day. So yeah, women are treated generally very terribly

509
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: in this scene. Um, I mean Megan Fox is one

510
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: of the lead characters, but she has almost no dialogue.

511
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: She has a decent amount of screen time, but most

512
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: of the time she's wearing like gotta make sure your

513
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: middrift is showing, like really objectified. The entire time, doesn't

514
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: have a lot to contribute to the story. There is

515
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: a moment where I was like, Okay, cool that this happens,

516
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: doesn't redeem anything. But she saves Sam from like the

517
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: little Decepticon. It's like going out. This is like right

518
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: the scene right after Bumblebee his yellow Camaro transforms and

519
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: starts battling another like a Decepticon, and there's like a

520
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: little Decepticon that's like attacking Sam and she like takes

521
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: this saw tool and like kind of hacks away. So

522
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: like she saves him. Okay, great, we get this little

523
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: role reversal of that. And then towards the end she

524
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: has a moment that sort of contributes to this story

525
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: kind of where she hooks Bumblebee up to a tow

526
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: truck and she's like, I'll drive you shoot and it

527
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: lasts for maybe thirty seconds and that's it. But even

528
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: that scene I remember because at the beginning of that scene,

529
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: there's just like a minute of her like open mouth

530
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: breathing on like close upshot of her breathing onto the

531
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: wheel right before, and I was like, what is her?

532
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: She's like holding onto the we like and she's like,

533
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: it's like, what's happening? And I'm like, if she fucking

534
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: a transformer? And then we zoom out and then he's

535
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: like being hooked up to the thing and then she's

536
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: hold on panting, panting. There's an insane amount of panting.

537
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: I've got a ton of quotes that people have said

538
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: about Michael Bay cute up. It's just, uh, they all

539
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: seem very passive, aggressive, and then some of them are

540
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: so nice that it's upsetting. John turturo says he likes

541
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: blowing things up. George Lucas says Michael's films are immediately identifiable.

542
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: He's a tour. Well that's what Ben Affleck says. Oh no,

543
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: I think Michael isn't actually an autour in the truest

544
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: sense of the word. Every movie he makes reflects his

545
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: personal creative vision. You may like it, you may not,

546
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: but those movies are him without compromise. There's something to

547
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: be said for sticking to your guns. I that's a

548
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: hard disagree for me. There's something to be said for

549
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: flipping a table at Michael Bay. Steven Spielberg says he

550
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: has the best eye for multiple levels of pure visual adrenaline.

551
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: That seems a little too nice. Michael Bay says about

552
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: himself and always says, I'm like a true American. I

553
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: feel he just like writes like a like a teenage boy.

554
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: Like I had a screen a class in college with

555
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: a guy who would all his screen players were just

556
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think you'd ever made out

557
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: with a girl, but it would always like have a

558
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: scene where it was just like hawk girl walks down

559
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: the hall, her thong is showing and it's just like

560
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: she bends over the water. I fountain like every time,

561
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: like everything he wrote haw to something like that and

562
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: you can just imagine that his laptop is just caked

563
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: in jizz just like but yeah, I feel like that's

564
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: Michael Bay is like like he's influencing people to write

565
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: show like your screenwriting class Utain College reminds me of

566
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: my I do have a master's degree in screenwriting from Boston.

567
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: I hate breaking I hate bringing it up, but you know,

568
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: you leave me no choice but to mention it. So

569
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: I just had to throw that out there. Oh. The

570
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: other thing that I both alluded to in the Wonderful

571
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: Cool paper that I wrote and in previous episodes is

572
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: that there's that trope where when writers of movies don't

573
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 1: know how to portray a woman, so they're like, I'm

574
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: going to give her this one trait that makes her

575
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: not like the other girls, and that's almost always to

576
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: make her good at fixing cars, which is like sex car, Laney,

577
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: our car is like an extension, like are they sort

578
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: of like an allegory to guy's dicks? Is that a thing?

579
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: Like you know how guys want the cars? So it's like,

580
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: if you're working on a car, you're like good with dicks.

581
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: Like She's like, I'm fine touching you can make your

582
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: car go. Well, there's a there's a line where she says,

583
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: guys hate it when you know more about cars than

584
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: they do, and then Shaia says, actually, I don't mind

585
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: it at all. I want to se I prefer which

586
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: um as maybe the most progressive moment in this movie,

587
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 1: and that's it, But I mean Jesus Christ. The other

588
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: main female character, Maggie, who's like the signals analyst, who

589
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: like really doesn't end up doing anything because then she

590
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 1: has to go to Anthony Anderson, who's like the best

591
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: hacker in the world character. Why don't they just make

592
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: her right? Question? It would be great because she needs

593
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: help from her team. As a no, she walked in. Well,

594
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: she had help her team, so yeah, that was god disappointing.

595
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: But she is technically a woman in STEM. I would

596
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 1: argue she is. She's a long suffering woman's Australian woman

597
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: in STEM. God forbid, there's woman she's like, Halla, I

598
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm a woman stamp, she's a one in stand. But

599
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like, god forbid, there'd be a woman on

600
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: screen who's not like a ten Like. Yeah, there's also

601
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: the I was in saying, well, she's also hot. But

602
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: there's the wife of the oh Josh, yeah, yeah, the

603
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: military and she does have a daughter, so there's a

604
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: scene with two women, but they do talk about how

605
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: he's gone, So I guess it's a man, but it

606
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: would have to be her. Yeah, maybe it would have

607
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: to say something back that baby is not of an

608
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: age where I have another Michael Bay anecdote interruption by

609
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: Michael Bay got Ben Affleck a new set of teeth

610
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: because he thought Ben Affleck's teeth were too small. He

611
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: got him a new set of teeth. Him and Jerry Bruckheimer.

612
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: It was a joint effort to get affle like those

613
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: new teeth. Per Michael Bay, Jerry had a problem with

614
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: bench teeth. Quote, he's got baby teeth. We're going to

615
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: fix his teeth. So Ben got a beautiful set of teeth.

616
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: Out of that film. That reminds me of the scene

617
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: where there's a small child and like all the transformers

618
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: are starting to come to earth and she wakes up

619
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: and she's like, that must be the tooth Fairy. So

620
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: she gets her little tooth in her little tooth bag

621
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: and comes out and there's a giant robot and she's like,

622
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: and what is maybe the worst example of child acting

623
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life? She's like, are you

624
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: the tooth Fairy? It's because Michael Bay had a knife

625
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: to pointed at her the whole time. Leave her alone.

626
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 1: Haley Joel Osmond had aged out of that role. He

627
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: wasn't available. He was like, twenty, are any of the

628
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: robots woman? They all have do they have genders? They're

629
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: all male voices seem to identify it. Yeah, this recause,

630
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: I peete a p out of their dicks. There's that

631
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: scene where they got lubricant leakage loop. It's upsetting. Its gross.

632
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Speaker 1: I made a list of all the man characters versus

633
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: the very very few female characters. We've got Sam what Wicky.

634
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: We have the autobots, which is Optimist, Prime, Bumble Bee, Jazz, Ratchet,

635
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: and Iron Hide. That we've got the main Decepticons who

636
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: are named at least Megatron, Bone Crusher, I think one

637
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: named Frenzy. I don't know they were, and Star Scream.

638
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: I love the name Star Scream. Sam's dad, Miles, Sam's friend,

639
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: the hacker Anthony Anderson. John Voight plays a Secretary of Defense.

640
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: John Tuturo is the head of Sector seven, and then

641
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: the various Air Force guys Josh how do you say

642
00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: his last name? Him? And Tyrese Gibson Um, who looks

643
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: great and he does look he's a very attractive man.

644
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: Um sweat on Tyrese Gibson. There were no women of

645
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: color that I noticed, except for very tertiary characters like

646
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Anderson's grandmother and Bernie Max's mother, who are right, yeah, yeah,

647
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: seen in the background and are portraying a raise this way. Yes,

648
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, not surprising. I do have my list of

649
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: all of the things I hate about this movie. If

650
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: you will indulge me, please, I've already mentioned if you

651
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: why we're here. Okay, I'll read this as quickly as possible.

652
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: The opening line before time began, there was the cube.

653
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: That's a good four play lines. Also, there's a many

654
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: was there's a bunch of different mentions where optimist Prime

655
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: is like, if this doesn't go well, push the cube

656
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: into my chest, which is how I initiate sex. But

657
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: just throwing that out there, and then push your cube

658
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: into my yeah, all you wear my vagina, dicked men

659
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: out there, put it into my chest vagina. Than we

660
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: already talked about all the racist stuff. The scene where

661
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: for no reason a character says, remember weekends the sacks

662
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: at Finway, hot dog and a cold beer, because he's

663
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: I guess from Boston, true America. I get I get it,

664
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,800
Speaker 1: I get it. There should just said don't get donuts

665
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: because it contrast the Spanish guy who's also American. He's

666
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: in the fucking military, right, speaking like, Oh, I love

667
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: what my mom cooks this stuff? Yeah, alligators and crickets.

668
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: He's like, Uh, There's at least ten seconds dedicated to

669
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: Josh Domel talking about how hot his baby is. He's like,

670
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: such a good looking kid. Baby Michael trying to put

671
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: it under a waterfall strategy. Babes like, well, we can't

672
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: have this baby holding an alcoholic beverage under water. I

673
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: hate Sam what Wicki's teacher in the beginning. I hate

674
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: the presentation he gives where he's talking all of his

675
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: grandfather's prize possessions. I hate the speech he gives to

676
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: his teacher to try to convince him to give him

677
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: an a. I hate all of the expository dialogue, the

678
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: movie's script, Sam what Wicki's dad, Bernie Mack's character, the

679
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: fact that all the glass bursts and the cars at

680
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: the dealership and no one wonders why that might have happened,

681
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: Sam what Wicki's mom, the cinematography, the air freshener in

682
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: Sam's car that says bach any attempt a comedy that's

683
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: made in the scrimp which is still relevant in two

684
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: thousand seven under the waning days of Bache all the

685
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: continuity errors, everything that Sam what Wicky says in the movie,

686
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: the flight attendant who drops a ding dong on the

687
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: floor that's supposed to be for the president and then

688
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: she picks it up and eats it. Uh, there's so

689
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: many individual towns the plot, so Chila bos acting Megan

690
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: Fox is acting the scene where Josh Jamal is trying

691
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: to place a college with the Pentagon and has to

692
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: find a credit card to place the call. Every other

693
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: part of that scene. The scene in Anthony Anderson's house,

694
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: Sam's eBay user name and photo, The fact that no

695
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: one notices a little Decepticon that's running around very conspicuously,

696
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: The idea that there's an all powerful like device that

697
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: can create life and planets and it's called the all Spark.

698
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: It's called the Female wom Bit. The scene where the

699
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: autobots are just hanging out in Sam's yard and no

700
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: one notices. That's the one thing I like, which is

701
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: when they're hiding in the backyard because the autobus are

702
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: so cute. When they're like getting it up and let's

703
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: get out of here. And I'm just squatting. I like that.

704
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: That was what bothered mean about it is that Sam's

705
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: parents were just like the earthquake. I guess better not

706
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: look out the way like I do. Also, like whenever

707
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: they go a rull up. Yeah, that that feels like

708
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: the Yeah, that was fine. Oh the fact that it's

709
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: never made clear why pushing the Cube into Optimist Primes

710
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: chest will destroy both him and the Cube details who

711
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: cares doesn't matter. The scene where Shaya La Buff and

712
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: Megan Fox are basically dry humping on the hood of

713
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: his car, and then the other Transformers are just they're

714
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: watching kind of Yeah, they're on bubble beees. So that's

715
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: he's like a So that's like a threesome, right, he's

716
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: a third party. Yeah, part of IM sure his hood's

717
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: getting all lubricated. Girl. I was gonna say hot, but

718
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: I guess slick ism were appropriate. You slippery, You're a

719
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: little slippery threesome gross No no, no, no no no,

720
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: that's how that's how I shate sex to I'm like,

721
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm slippery table in the circle and the stupid Lincoln

722
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: Park song at the end, Oh my god, I'm gonna

723
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: say something about that. Too. But is there any other

724
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: band to smash Mouth that could have also worked? Right?

725
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: I hope the smash mont said no, too trashy. We've

726
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: got some Shrek residuals were good. Oh. To be fair,

727
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: though I did make I also made a list about

728
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: the things that I like about the movie. They are

729
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: the score. I legitimately think it's a pretty good score

730
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: for an action movie. A lot of like epic music

731
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: that I was able to get that time, really kind

732
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: of you, and the idea that the car chooses the

733
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: driver but only because it reminds me of Harry Potter.

734
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: And those are the only two things on that list. Okay,

735
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: but then that's not original. He's just taking that exactly. Yeah, okay,

736
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: number one, Harry Potter sucks. I've read them all, I've

737
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: seen them, I've gaven, I've been to the theme park.

738
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: I can't, I don't. I don't like it. Let me

739
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: sneak it forever. But here here are a few more

740
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: fun Bake quotes I found fun. Here's a just a

741
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: thought from John tur Turtle. He says, in regards to

742
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: the Transformers franchise, I thought Transformers Too was good. I

743
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: liked it better than Transformers one. Most people feel that way,

744
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: which is amazing that he thinks most people have seen

745
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: two Transformers movies. Here's one from Scarlett Johansson, who was

746
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: in a movie that I vaguely remember coming out called

747
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: The Island. Oh yes, I saw that in theaters. It

748
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: was bad but horrible. Yeah, it had a decent premise,

749
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: but of course, because Michael Bay sucks, he completely botched

750
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: the execution of it really quick. Even mcg he was

751
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: a bad actor, but he wasn't a good actor, and

752
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: he just played like a spacey dude with no emotion.

753
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: It fits like that was like his Keanu in the

754
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: Matrix role, where it's like, oh, we didn't notice that

755
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: he kind of sucks because this was like perfect for him.

756
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: But here's what Scarlett Johansson had to say about running

757
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: she had with Michael Bay. She said, I ran into

758
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: him leaving a party once and asked him if I

759
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: could be the easy bake oven Transformer as a joke.

760
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: He looked at me in all seriousness and said, there

761
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: is no easy bake up and Transformer, which testament to

762
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: how seriously he takes his terrible movies and how little

763
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: he understands jokes. In comedy, but he was probably like,

764
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: he's a woman, she must be serious. She's too dumb

765
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: to make a joke. Oh boy, I just imagined that.

766
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: Like Michael bays directing style is that he goes to

767
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: the actors and he's like, listen, I want you to

768
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: just be screaming all of your lines in this scene.

769
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: And they'll be like, I don't know that it really

770
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: warrants me screaming, and he's like, no, trust me on this.

771
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: Just make sure you scream all of your lines. And

772
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: that is every scene in Transformer. And then he pulls

773
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: out he just shows the hint of a gun he has.

774
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: He's like, I think you should scream. I feel like

775
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: he directs from within a giant Transformers robot. It's just

776
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: like where it's like a huge intercom system like shy

777
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: yell louder. Also, I could have told anyone not to

778
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: give Michael Bay a job because he is one of

779
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: the greatest fears of my entire life, which is an

780
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: adult blonde male. Never a trust an adult blonde male.

781
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: That's a rule. Yes, we can all benefit from that rule.

782
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: Think of an adult blonde male who has bettered your life.

783
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: It's hard there are exceptions to the rule, but it's

784
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: like one and two. Yeah, new rule. Does anyone have

785
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: any final thoughts about the movie? At least we spent

786
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: most of the time just hating it and discussing how

787
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: much we hate it. Not a ton of time dedicated

788
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: to the treatment of the female characters. But I mean

789
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 1: they didn't give us a ton of female characters to

790
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: talk about. True. Yeah, yeah, how would you fix it?

791
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: Is there a way to do Transformers? I mean, make

792
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: sure do not direct it like having more. I mean,

793
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: there's no reason why every single basically every single character

794
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: needed to be a man, Like there are women in

795
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: the military, there are women working in government. And is

796
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: Michael Bart aware that this is true? Does we know

797
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: that women are allowed in the military now and have

798
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: been for a long time? I don't think so. I

799
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: think that, Yeah, there's a lot of potential that they

800
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 1: could have done with the story, like the whole idea

801
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: of the all spark and you know, creating life, like

802
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: you really can go so many weights like motherhood, like

803
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, mother nature. There's so much like feminine energy

804
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: in life, and then they just were like no robots

805
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, there's like, yeah, there are ways to

806
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: take because you're just given. I mean, it's I guess

807
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: originally it was a toy franchise pushed at boys. But

808
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: there's a way to take that and do something not

809
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: completely irresponsible with it. But yeah, I don't know if

810
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: there's any way to make this movie fair to anyone

811
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: vote white guys who are very mad with without just

812
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: scrapping this whole movie. Right, But these movies are so

813
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: high grossing, so many people go to see these. Did

814
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: you watch the other I only watched? I think I

815
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: watched is the second one when he goes to college.

816
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: I watched there was like I do remember that there

817
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: was like a really hot blonde girl who ended up

818
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: being a robot, Rosie Hunting. And I will say, like

819
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: I that was maybe early Teresa discovering her sexuality that scene,

820
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: because I was a straight girl in high school. She

821
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: was that like girl. She was well, she was like

822
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: a Victoria's secret model, and she was the She was

823
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 1: the girl who was brought in to replace Megan Fox

824
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: when Megan Fox was like I and she does say

825
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: several times Michael Bay is Hitler and apparently that's his

826
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: line um. And then they brought in Rosie who is beautiful,

827
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: and I think, I mean I saw Dark of the Moon.

828
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: Is that the second one? Yeah, there's it's called Dark

829
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: of the Moon, Dark of the Moon, we don't need side.

830
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: And then there's also one called The Last Night, and

831
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: that's the one coming out, which sounds so much like

832
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: The Dark Night that it's just like, do you need

833
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: to name this? It's so confusing. Why would you name

834
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: something Dark of the Moon or The Last Night? It's

835
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,320
Speaker 1: just it's okay. Age of Extinction vaguely sounds like it

836
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: could be a Jurassic Park movie. Um, but um, darker

837
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: the Moon grows one billion dollars, So what the funk

838
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: do we know? As did Age of Extinction? Yeah, I

839
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: don't remember if I saw any of the sequels. I

840
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: want to say that I saw at least the second one,

841
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: but I have no memory of it. I saw the

842
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: first one with Rosie Huntington quickly in it, because I

843
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: also remember that white outfit she wore in the movie.

844
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, she was really cute, and

845
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: but then she's because she's like an evil robot, right right,

846
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: so she's like a little bit little bit not that

847
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: she's treated fairly, but you know, something, something happens to her.

848
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: There's a plot point that has to do with her,

849
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: which is more than we can say for Megan Fox,

850
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: who really just I'm glad that she like later was

851
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: just like I recognized that as bullshit because she's hunting

852
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: so much. Yeah, and she's like seventeen, right team when

853
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: this movie is being shot, it's just like, I don't

854
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: know in retros, like at the time, I remember being like, Ah,

855
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: she's so dumb for being in this movie. But now

856
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: and just like I feel bad for her, Like I

857
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: can't like, if you're seventeen and someone's like, let me

858
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: give you a million dollars to pant at me, I

859
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if you've already posed under

860
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: a waterfall for the same great I don't know where

861
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: you know. I felt poor Megan Fox because it seems

862
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: like a promotion. Yeah, it seems like she's doing well.

863
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: So let's talk about whether or not the movie passes

864
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: the Bechdel tests, shall we shall? The only scene that

865
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: I noticed where there are two women interacting is the

866
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: scene where Megan Fox is in Sam Whitwicky's house and

867
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: his mom is all like, oh my god, are you

868
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: master being in here shy all about and he's like, no, no, no,

869
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: And then I think his character pops up and she's

870
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: like hi. She's like, I'm I'm a friend of Sam's

871
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: and his mom says, you're gorgeous? Are you just the

872
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: prettiest girl? Which pretty similar to the scene and Julie,

873
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: where all the scene is Julie at least is very funny,

874
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: where she's just like where ben Affleck's character Apparently at

875
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: this point ben Affleck has his Michael Bay teeth because

876
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: after a certain point, ben Affleck's teeth are huge, very

877
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: big teeth. Does she just take out all his teeth?

878
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: Maybe there, I'd imagine there, but his teeth I'm like, well,

879
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: I guess his teeth are kind of big, and I

880
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: want to go back and be like when we're his

881
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: teeth small when Michael they give him his Hollywood teeth.

882
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: But there's the scene in Julie where ben Affleck's like, mom,

883
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: don't get any bright ideas she's gay, and then her

884
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: mom's like, well that can change. You're handsome, and Jelo

885
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, maybe I don't know. Yeah,

886
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: but this is a very similar scene where his mom

887
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: is just like, oh my god, you're so hot, You're

888
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: so pretty engorgeous, and Megan Fox is like thank you,

889
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: and then his mom's like, sorry, you had to hear

890
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: our little family discussion and that's the conversation. So I

891
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: totally don't they have to have no men present for

892
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: to pass or is it just to think it just

893
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: needs to be two women talking and their conversation has

894
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: to not be about a man. There's no way that

895
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to give this scene the benefit of the

896
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: death that doesn't about Sam but if you, I mean,

897
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: he's in the room number one and which isn't technically,

898
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: but like I feel like it may as well be

899
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: not allowed for a man to be there and they're not. Again,

900
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we've I forget what movie we came

901
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: up against a similar problem where it's like I think

902
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: it's Pirates of the Caribbean, where it's like they are

903
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: indirectly talking about a man, but they are not. They

904
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: never use a man's name or heat or like use

905
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: the pronouns or anything. But it's like I feel like

906
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: conversation is indirectly about like, oh, sorry, you thought I

907
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: was talking about my son jerking out, Like it just

908
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: that it's definitely like a sexually charged right, it's like

909
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: sexually charged, but like a hetero and hetero blockbuster sexually

910
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: Like if they were that would be fucked up. If

911
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, we should hook up Mega Fox

912
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: and Sam's mom because that's an age problem, but that

913
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: would pass the test. Well, that's the other thing. The

914
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: only really notable thing that either of them say to

915
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: each other is his mom being like, you're so gorgeous,

916
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: You're so pretty, which is essentially just objectifying her. So like,

917
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: even if that somehow did pass the back to test,

918
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: it's really it's like like the subtext to that is like,

919
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: you should suck my son exactly right. Yeah, I'm gonna say,

920
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: based on what we know about the movie and Sam's character,

921
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: she's like, I want my son to have a little

922
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: girl friend. And oh, you're a good candidate. You're hot,

923
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,879
Speaker 1: you look how cute. I'm so impressed that my son

924
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: had you in his bedroom. Like, have you ever had

925
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: an exchange like that with with someone's parents where they're

926
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: indirectly like you want my kids? Like, there is no

927
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: I had. I had an exchange like that in high school. Yeah,

928
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: with my saxophone boyfriend. His old dad came in one

929
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: night to you know, we were like teenagers and like

930
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: hanging out. We're watching this Zach Gelfanak is special on

931
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: his very old laptop in two thousand and eight. But

932
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: his dad came into the room and he was just like, hey, kids,

933
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: what's going on? And we're like nothing, We're watching TV.

934
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: And he was just like, hey Jamie, because he was

935
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: like A, I don't know what he did, but he

936
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: worked at like concerts, and he's like, hey, Jamie, do

937
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: you know why they call the band Pearl jam And

938
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: I was like no. He's like think about it. And

939
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: then I thought about it and I was like, oh, come,

940
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: program is come. I didn't realize that. And then and

941
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: then he threw us paper towels and said have a

942
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: great night. Whoa. So he was just like in a

943
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: weird series of comments, was just like everything about come,

944
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: here are some things to clean up, come with gotta go,

945
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: and then just like shut the door. I was like

946
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: I want to go home, like everyone wanted to go home.

947
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: It was the least sexually charged moment of my entire life,

948
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: although that is also how I initiate sex. I say,

949
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: put your cube in my chest. Everything about what program

950
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: really means. There's paper towels while you figure it out.

951
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: So gross. Yeah that's bizarre. Yeah man, anyways, cool, should

952
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: we write the movie? Hey, let's do it. Wait, so

953
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: we just we determined that this does not pass the test.

954
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to give it a path. Yeah, I mean,

955
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: if we're going by this super super super for super

956
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: technical rules. But even then, I just know there's no

957
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: way that we could say, well, technically, Transformers like passes

958
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: the Victal test, Like no, no. Uh, So we write

959
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: the movie on our nipple scale, uh, zero to five

960
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: nipples based on its portrayal of women. I'm gonna give

961
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: it a half nipple. Interesting. I mean, what very very

962
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: little any of the female characters do contribute to the

963
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: story is usually undermined by the male characters or it

964
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: doesn't like bear any significance on the overall story. And yeah,

965
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: like I get that Sam is the protagonist, so like

966
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: most of his decisions are gonna but then there's just

967
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: there no women do anything. There's just hardly any female

968
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: characters contributing anything to the story, and when they are

969
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: on screen, they're often especially Megan Fox's character is just

970
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: heavily objectified. So yeah, half nipple. I think it treats

971
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: women horribly, and I think it's a terrible movie. What's

972
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: the highest nipple you've given out? We've even think Moanna

973
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: definitely nipples? What else was there? Elm and Louise and

974
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: Louise got five nipples there. I think the only ones

975
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: that we've given like five across the board have been

976
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: to Mowanna and Elma Louise. It's great. I was just curious.

977
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think i'd have to give it. Well,

978
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it one nipple because I agree that

979
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: women are treated horribly, but I also think the men

980
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: look bad in this movie. I mean, there's except with

981
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: the exception of Tyres except. And also I love Optimist,

982
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: so he gets that nipple. Yeah, to be fair, there

983
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: are no redeemable characters in this movie. Even Sam what

984
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,919
Speaker 1: Wicki is the most insufferable character I've ever seen on screen.

985
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, we're supposed to identify with this guy.

986
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: His last name sounds like a DJ scratch. I think

987
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: about it, like, I do love Robot a lot. I

988
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: really like when the robots take over, I'm joining them,

989
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: so I mean the robots so much, and that's why

990
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: I give it nip. Yeah. I love sci fi like

991
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: I love a good sci fi action movie, but this

992
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: movie just like missed the mark on opportunity. Um, I

993
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: give it. I give it no nipples. However, I would

994
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: like to very clearly stay at what these nipples look

995
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: like John Trull John Turtruo. So first he's got a

996
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: half nipple on the right side, and it's like, oh,

997
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: he's got as kind of a small nipple because there

998
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: are women in the movie, right, But then his left

999
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: nipple is inverted about halfway. Yeah, it's kind of like

1000
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: this very unsavory, very dry vagina nipple that he has

1001
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: on the left side, so it evens out to zero,

1002
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: but it's technically once tiny pokey nipple because there's women

1003
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: in the movie, and then an inverted nipple because of

1004
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: everything else. I love it, right, So a negative nipple,

1005
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: and then it goes out to if you put, okay

1006
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: in theory, if you put John t turles right nipple

1007
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: into his left nipple, it would be like there were

1008
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: not I mean, I'll illustrate this reminding me of my

1009
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: chest vagina. So I get it. I already get they

1010
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: ca tube the nipple. So yeah, that's been our great

1011
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: discussion about the movie Transformer. See the sequel or don't.

1012
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: It'll make a billion dollars no matter what you do. Man, Teresa,

1013
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,080
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1014
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1019
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1020
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Speaker 1: my furbie truck. Um. But you can find us on Instagram.

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