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Speaker 1: Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texas All Access from

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Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: football analyst, Salon reporter, and yeah, this is typically my night,

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Speaker 1: unlike last night. But Mark Vandermer's out traveling. Can't be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow with the mcclaner, John McClain, the General. But

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Speaker 1: we kick off the show with my friend Drew Doherty. Drew,

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Speaker 1: how are you fantastic? John? It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're well. Go Texans, Yes, go Texans. As always,

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Speaker 1: supplemental Draft today. You and I actually kind of bandoned

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Speaker 1: this about off air yesterday, and I talked about it

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Speaker 1: on air yesterday saying I thought there was a chance

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Speaker 1: of Texans might take a chance. Now the supplemental Draft,

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Speaker 1: there were only five names and more than likely only

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Speaker 1: three had a chance to be selected, and I thought

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Speaker 1: that one for sure, one more than likely, and then

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Speaker 1: three through five it's gonna be it's gonna be sketchy.

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Speaker 1: I did, and you and I talked about it. There

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Speaker 1: was a chance, we thought and felt that the Texans

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Speaker 1: would take a look at one of the defensive backs,

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Speaker 1: either Sam Bille from Western Michigan or Donas Alexander the corner,

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Speaker 1: big corner from out of Virginia. Tech thought those two

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Speaker 1: might be on the Texans radar screen. I guarantee they were. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they weren't. They weren't willing to give up up

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Speaker 1: forfeit next year's first rounder in the spring, or forfeit

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Speaker 1: either the two round or second rounders. We've only had

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Speaker 1: to give up one, right, but they could have. It's

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Speaker 1: conceivable they could have put in a bid for a

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Speaker 1: third round today. But they just weren't in that top

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Speaker 1: five that that got that got one. The Giants ended

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Speaker 1: up kicking Sambille. Now, I said this yesterday. I thought

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Speaker 1: the draft order for supplemental draft went all last years

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Speaker 1: draft order, but there was a weighted lottery that went

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Speaker 1: with it, and the Raiders ended up with the top

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Speaker 1: pick in the supplemental draft. They did not pick anybody

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Speaker 1: but the Giants in the key they had one of

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Speaker 1: the top five picks. And the talk on sam Bill

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Speaker 1: but a lot of interest should probably be there in

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Speaker 1: the third. And that's essentially where he went with the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants being in that I believe he was

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Speaker 1: in that top five picks in the third round. So

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Speaker 1: he goes Donnas Alexander ends up going to the red Skins,

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Speaker 1: which I believe was in the sixth round other supplemental draft.

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Speaker 1: He's got a little bit more baggage, if you will.

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Speaker 1: Off the field, Sam Beale was academic and eligible. Donnas

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Speaker 1: Alexander had a few He had some issues in classroom

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Speaker 1: and marijuana arrest. He had been spending from the team

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Speaker 1: indefinitely for a little bit. But you know, I both

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Speaker 1: thought they were gonna be on the Texas radar screen

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Speaker 1: for sure. But I'm sure there was interested just wasn't

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Speaker 1: red Skins. Yeah, I no doubt. I did think with

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Speaker 1: you know, early third man, I will give it up.

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Speaker 1: But maybe the Seahawks are kind of middle of the

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Speaker 1: Although I think that's it's gonna be tough if if

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's healthy, it's tough for that to happen. Are

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Speaker 1: you worried at all about the defensive back position, in

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Speaker 1: particular outside corner for the Texans? I would say worried,

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Speaker 1: But you always wonder. You always wonder. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't wonder about the quarterback position, but I don't wonder

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Speaker 1: struggled last year, But you and I've talked about this

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Speaker 1: they'd give some give some creeds to looking at beauty.

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Speaker 1: I think they that would have happened even more so

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Speaker 1: and the and Jremaine Kelly and then Saturay, the undrafted guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying those guys are better than bal and

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Speaker 1: them and you can kind of jiggle them around and

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Speaker 1: see what you got there that they thought, Well, we're good,

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Speaker 1: let's not let's not forfeit next springs draft capital at

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Speaker 1: the expense of those two. No, and there are obviously

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Speaker 1: our questions. First of all, of guy's academically ineligible, is

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Speaker 1: he gonna learn your system? Yea, all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: a class, whatever the might be. You're right, these guys

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Speaker 1: the juice that you had in seasons before that. That

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Speaker 1: hear from later in the show. Got a great news

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Speaker 1: segment that are our guys put together in the video department.

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Speaker 1: it's it's a take on the NFL Top one hundred

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Speaker 1: list where the players talk about the players and it's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of Texans talking about one of their other

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Speaker 1: one of their own teammates. Yeah, so the stories cut outs.

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Speaker 1: We'll have that later on with Whitney Merciless as well

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Speaker 1: as Cecil Short stop by the Deep Slant podcast today,

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Speaker 1: so we'll have something from Cecil Shorts says, well, how

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Speaker 1: about that? I love Cecil Shorts. I love Cecil. He

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I've done he's been fruitful. I

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Speaker 1: So essentially, I'm going to read a statement, okay, and

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Speaker 1: Mariota last year thirteen touchdowns, fifteen interceptions. Now, I do

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, but Delanney Walker can't play forever. Corey Davis

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Speaker 1: Jack Conklin could end up the right tackle, could end

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Speaker 1: year on pup, and that shakes up your offensive line,

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Speaker 1: and defensively, I don't know that they see any game changer.

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Speaker 1: See Drew Casey. Yes he is, There's no doubt droll Casey.

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Speaker 1: I wish we're out of this division. But they don't

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Speaker 1: see game changers there. I like Kevin Bayard, but he's good.

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Speaker 1: years down the line, exactly there there. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 1: Handing glove Drew, you're the best man, You're the best bros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Texas All Access on this Wednesday evening

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Speaker 1: Deep how are you doing. That's great, Johnny. I feel

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Speaker 1: less because I look at depth that running back, and

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Speaker 1: I think if you don't like the Patriots, another Patriots

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Speaker 1: do ask some depth of running backs. It's not maybe

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Speaker 1: not a great example, but I don't think you've got

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Speaker 1: to be so deep at running back that that's gonna

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Speaker 1: make you great. I think you have to have in

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Speaker 1: today's NFL more pass catchers. So what I did was

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Speaker 1: I ranked the running backs at one hundred percent. I

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Speaker 1: ranked a depth of running back the number one pass

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Speaker 1: catcher one hundred percent. I ranked the depth at the

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Speaker 1: rest of the pass catchers at ninety percent group as

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Speaker 1: one group. So I waited the pass catching group higher

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Speaker 1: than I did the depth that running back because I

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Speaker 1: felt like the group of pass catchers is more important

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Speaker 1: than what I've got behind my number one running back. Well,

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Speaker 1: your number two running back on a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: is may not get a lot of carries right there,

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Speaker 1: but your number two one, number two wide receiver is

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Speaker 1: gonna end up being a is going to be on

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Speaker 1: the field from rest of those snap. So that's what

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Speaker 1: I ranked number one running back. Came with the number

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Speaker 1: one running back for each team I ranked them. I

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Speaker 1: came up with the number one pass catcher. I ranked them,

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Speaker 1: and then I thought about the depth of running back

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Speaker 1: and at pass catcher, and I ranked those. The offensive

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Speaker 1: line was the second group, the second highest weighted group.

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Speaker 1: I rated that at one point two times, or one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty percent of the points. So quarterback most important,

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Speaker 1: offensive line next important. Now you can argue whether the

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Speaker 1: offensive line ends up being as as important or more

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Speaker 1: important than running back, etc. But to me, but I

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Speaker 1: feel like without a good offensive line, yeah, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to have a successful running game. I think I

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Speaker 1: think you're right, and your quarterback's not gonna be protect quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And then the last two I built in I played caller.

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Speaker 1: I put that at as one hundred percent because I

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Speaker 1: think the guy that's calling the place, combined with a

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Speaker 1: good quarterback, I think that ends up making your offensive whole.

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Speaker 1: And so I ranked that at one hundred percent. And

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Speaker 1: then continuity. I took the head coach, the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback, and then the offensive personnel. How much had

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Speaker 1: those groups and they're not gonna be perfect, but how

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Speaker 1: much of those groups been together for the longest time?

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Speaker 1: And obviously the Patriots turn in Morning List with Belichick, McDaniels,

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Speaker 1: and Brady, they were at the top of the list.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers were next, even though they had changed it.

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Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator Randy Fickner's been there and Tomlin and Ben

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Speaker 1: have been there for a while, and then I think

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid the Chiefs were next. After that all the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers been has been there forever. He's been a

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Speaker 1: lot of those offensive pieces for a while. I know

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Speaker 1: Anthony Lynch just got there um going into second year,

478
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Speaker 1: but he's had um there's some connuity there. And then

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Speaker 1: the what about the Chiefs because you lose your offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator right now? The Chiefs I had down the list

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Speaker 1: because they lost her offense and Patrick Mahomes is y'all new,

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Speaker 1: so he's relatively new. But Andy Reid's been there for

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Speaker 1: a while, so I kind of bounced him out. They

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Speaker 1: they I had I think at fifth, So fifth in

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Speaker 1: the league. So did you know who was the play

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Speaker 1: caller for all these teams? Because sometimes it's the head coach,

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's c oc You went back, and I went

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Speaker 1: back and I looked at me, how did you who's

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Speaker 1: a better play caller? Well, a lot of subjectivity to that.

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Speaker 1: I agreted McDaniels as a number one guy because I

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Speaker 1: think he is. I think he's an extraordinary play call Yes,

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Speaker 1: Brady does a great job, but I think McDaniels is

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Speaker 1: a really good play caller. I mean, I think he

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Speaker 1: does a great job with his offensive staff, yes, and

495
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Speaker 1: also making adjustments during games and doing those sort of things.

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Speaker 1: I think any Reid is, you know, standing play caller.

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Speaker 1: Now he is not the he's the head coach. He's

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Speaker 1: got no ce and that's why Naggie ended up gonna

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Speaker 1: you know, he went to the Chiefs, but at some

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Speaker 1: point Nagy started taking over play calling last year. But

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Speaker 1: any Reid, I think is a brilliant play caller. So

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Speaker 1: summ it's the offensive coordinator, Summit's the head coach. Frank like,

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Speaker 1: for example, Frank Reich with the Colts, I gave them

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Speaker 1: ten points, which would have made them I think seventh.

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Speaker 1: But Frank Reich is a heck of a play caller.

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Speaker 1: Even though he didn't call plays last year, he was

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Speaker 1: instrumental in getting Philadelphia where they needed to go. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of subjectivity to play callers. But I

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Speaker 1: like that you've waited everything consistently because your opinion of

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Speaker 1: where everybody ranks on each individual academ where he's different,

511
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Speaker 1: but you still placed importance on quarterback right off the line,

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Speaker 1: followed by play callers, pass catchers, and then you're number

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Speaker 1: one guys right, number one running back. And I would

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Speaker 1: agree with that. I would agree with how you've waited

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Speaker 1: all the elements that going to it all. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure there's probably an element I haven't built in, but

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Speaker 1: just based on this and using my rankings, the best

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Speaker 1: offense in the league by far, alright, by far, the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, by far. Pittsburgh Steeler. Pittsburgh Steelers. They had

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Speaker 1: the top wide receiver, Antonio Brown, they had top running

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Speaker 1: back and leve the on Bill. They didn't have as

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Speaker 1: great at depth that running back and I didn't actually

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Speaker 1: I do have them, Oh James Connor running back one

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Speaker 1: am I thinking they had James Connor and running back,

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Speaker 1: so I felt like they had good depth of running back.

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Speaker 1: Their pass catchers pretty solid. The old line was had

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Speaker 1: two Pro Bowlers last year, really good. I thought Pickner

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Speaker 1: is a play caller, okay, he relies a lot on Ben,

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Speaker 1: that's okay, And the connunity has been there. Tomlin and

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Speaker 1: Ben had been together since two thousand seven, So they've

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Speaker 1: been together that entire time. The offense has pretty has

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Speaker 1: been pretty consistent. They've got depth with Juju Smith Schuster,

533
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't even close. It was the Steelers offense

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Speaker 1: across the board had everything that you could potentially look for.

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Speaker 1: And I think if you said that to people around

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Speaker 1: the end fell and said, look, best offensive league is

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Speaker 1: a Pittsburgh Steelers, I think a lot of them would go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I could see that, absolutely, there's no question. Next I

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Speaker 1: had was the can't see Chiefs. The Chiefs came in.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs came in second. Now they were clearly second,

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Speaker 1: but because they've got again those key pieces, and I

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Speaker 1: thought their offensive line was was better than people think.

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Speaker 1: It's not one of the some one of the top

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Speaker 1: three or four in the league, but I felt like

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Speaker 1: it was still a pretty good line. In fact, I

546
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Speaker 1: think I have him a fifth in the AFC. So

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Speaker 1: to me, they were a complete offense. The Patriots were third.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots get docked in some sense because they lost

549
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Speaker 1: a few guys in free agencies the pass catcher level,

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Speaker 1: and that's where their depth WASPS City right which Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I felt like Patriots offensive line was also a unit

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Speaker 1: that is vulnerable. So two categories. Now it's bounced out

553
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Speaker 1: by Brady being the best quarterback there. But the offensive

554
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Speaker 1: line I only have rated seventh. And so from that standpoint,

555
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Speaker 1: they came in third and then right behind them fourth.

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Speaker 1: The almost called the San Diego the La Chargers. I

557
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Speaker 1: think the Chargers. And we joked about this a little bit,

558
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Speaker 1: the sneaky hot pick in the a FC Chargers joke

559
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Speaker 1: very good. They're always a sneaky hot pick because it's

560
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and he is so talented, right, But you

561
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Speaker 1: know something, it seems like something always comes down. The

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Speaker 1: first two games of the year last year they missed

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Speaker 1: two goals that could have won the game. It's always

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Speaker 1: it's always something like that because you see the talent.

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Speaker 1: I think defensive. I did this for defense. I think

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Speaker 1: the Chargers would be the should have a category for

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Speaker 1: changing cities not having a stadium well outside playing road

568
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Speaker 1: the most road game. So Steelers, Chiefs, Patriots charged fourth.

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Speaker 1: Now the Raiders came in fifth and they I was

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Speaker 1: a little when I when I went through and did this,

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Speaker 1: I was a little surprised that the Raiders came in

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Speaker 1: as high as they did. But the couple of areas

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Speaker 1: where I wasn't totally sure with them was the pass

574
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Speaker 1: catching depth. Now I left Martavis Bryant in there, but

575
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Speaker 1: he could be suspended. And if he suspended, you got

576
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Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson, who a little bit older, Maury Cooper, who

577
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Speaker 1: had a down year last year. I probably wouldn't put

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Speaker 1: that group of pass catchers as high. I would probably

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Speaker 1: change out a little bit. Where would you rank John

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Speaker 1: Gruden as a play Well, that was the other one

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Speaker 1: I struggled with. That was the one that was well.

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Speaker 1: That was the one I struggled with the most most.

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Speaker 1: Was John Gruden. He's a big question mark. I had

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Speaker 1: to go. I had to go more on historical. I

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Speaker 1: try to give him some I try to not give

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Speaker 1: him like he's going to be the best play calls.

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Speaker 1: Was winning super Bowls, But I don't think I think

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00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: he could walk into a room right now call plays

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Speaker 1: better than a lot of these guys in division or

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. So I gave him I think sixteen fifteen, fourteen,

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Speaker 1: thirteen twelve, I game the fifth rated play caller in

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Speaker 1: the AFC. Now that could that could prove to be

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Speaker 1: completely completely way off. But John Gruten was a very

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Speaker 1: good play caller, offensive coordinator, offensive mind, came from the

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Speaker 1: West Coast system. Now is he at that level? No?

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Speaker 1: But could he be? Yeah, So I kind of split

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00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: the middle on that, if you will. The Texans came

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Speaker 1: in sixth, they came in behind the Raiders, and I

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Speaker 1: could I could see. I could see you making a

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Speaker 1: case for the Texans being a step ahead of the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: If you tell me Deshaun's gonna be fully healthy, take

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00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: that first year to second year's step, then yeah, I

603
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: could see that. I could see the Texans being up

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Speaker 1: where with Raiders. Where the Raiders had the advantage was

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. Colletchi assembly uh, Donald Penn has been there.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are all pros. Rodney Hudson's very good. M

607
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: Gabe Jackson very good. So the Raiders offensive line, it

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Speaker 1: is really what set it apart. I think I wasn't

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Speaker 1: really sure what to do with the Raiders running backs

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Speaker 1: like Marshawn Lynch. I wasn't totally sure, but they did

611
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Speaker 1: signed Doug Martin. If Lynch is back and as close

612
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Speaker 1: to healthy as he can be and Doug Martin's back,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty good running back depth to kind of balance

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Speaker 1: out and go with that offensive line. So that's why

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Speaker 1: I kind of felt like I was all right with

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Speaker 1: the Raiders being where they were. Here's a surprise that

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Speaker 1: comes in right after the Texans as the Browns. You

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Speaker 1: don't and Bill Barnewill had him ranked pretty highly on

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Speaker 1: his list. Here it's when you when I went back

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Speaker 1: and I looked at all the different pieces, I felt like,

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Speaker 1: even without Joe Thomas, the offensive line is still pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about quarterback. Quarterback they got dinged obviously,

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Speaker 1: because you don't know whether it's Tyrod or it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Baker. You don't know. So they were I think

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Speaker 1: quarterback wise, they didn't get a ton of points. I

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Speaker 1: think go only gave them seven points, but they got

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Speaker 1: everything else. They've got everything else that is very interesting.

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Speaker 1: So if they get better than average quarterback play, the

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Speaker 1: Browns are going to be pretty scary this year. And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see that, especially in December. But

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Speaker 1: that's that's the way it went. To finish up. The

632
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Titans were eighth, Jaguar's ninth, Ravens tenth, Colts eleven. Then

633
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Speaker 1: goes Bengals, Broncos, Dolphins, bills, jets. What I like about

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Speaker 1: those bottom four in particular, the Texas play all those,

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Speaker 1: they play all four of those, they do you know

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Speaker 1: kind of you know. What I like about it is

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Speaker 1: that just it passes the eyeball test, like your formula

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Speaker 1: that you just pulled up a thin air. When you

639
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Speaker 1: look at this list, it makes sense. I mean, or

640
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: there are there teams that you'd move around here and there, sure,

641
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: but overall there's no glaring Yeah, there's no glaring team

642
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: that should be ranked higher. Why is that because we

643
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: used math? Yes? Because the math always always deep. Ye're

644
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Speaker 1: the best. Thank you for coming Deep Slant Podcast go

645
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Speaker 1: check out on iTunes, Stitcher and tune in why because

646
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: Cecil Shorts was on there today. We will have him

647
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,959
Speaker 1: next and we'll also get the players take on Whitney

648
00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: Merciless right here in Texas Access one file segment of

649
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: Texans All Access. And it's all about the players or

650
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: former players talking about current players. Let's start with the

651
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: players take Whitney Merciless. What the Texas players think about Whitney.

652
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: I'll take a listen to a video you gotta see

653
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: when it comes out later this month on Houston, Texas

654
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: dot Com on Whitney Merciless, Whitney Man. He is an

655
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: age Russia. The guy knows how to get sex. And

656
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any offensive tackle that gonna stopp

657
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: form Merciless. His athleticism is weirdly elite. He has great

658
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: pass rush moves that are paired with his power, and

659
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: I think that's what separate him from everybody else. Sometimes

660
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, but he'd be going too hard if you

661
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: have to tell him, like, calm down. So we got

662
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: these gps is in the back of our practice jerseys, Uh,

663
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: to let us know how how hard we're going. And

664
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Speaker 1: here's a skyrocket every day, here's a rutch by Merciless,

665
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: and he gets pretty down with the pocket come last

666
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: and he shot by Whitney Merciless his second up a night.

667
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a switch to him on that field

668
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: where you just literally see him in his eyes and

669
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: he just is go time, and he just won't stop

670
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: when he's on that field until he makes a play

671
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: and makes something happen side that he's wrapped up for

672
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: a t f ol talk about setting an edge, and

673
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: wit is one of the best I've I've seen do it,

674
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: Like since I got in. I've been taking notes. You know.

675
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: I watched Whitney Merciless set that in Merciless Frides come

676
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: down for a TfL. Whitney ever takes play off. Remember

677
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: my rookie year, we were doing a walk for literally

678
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: and he came off the ball and then like I'll

679
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: be back on my butt. They put him in a

680
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: lot of different spots. You never know what was gonna be.

681
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: At the same time, you know what you're gonna get

682
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: from them. I think is completely underrated by some teams,

683
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: but those teams are ones that he goes out and dominates.

684
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: You need to see the intensity that he brings to

685
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: everything what he does in his work that it affects

686
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: everybody around me. I've seen that video. I haven't seen

687
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: the others, but I've seen that one. It's fantastic. But man,

688
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: Joe Emerald did a tremendous, tremendous job with that. A

689
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Speaker 1: dB City who joined us in this previous segment, she

690
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: does a tremendous job with a deep slant podcast. Today

691
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Speaker 1: she had on cecil Shorts who talked about the Shawn Watson,

692
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, and of course number ninety nine J J. Watt.

693
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: How much of the Texans games were you able to

694
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: watch last year? And how much of the did you follow? Um?

695
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: I pretty much watched all the games almost you did? Yeah, Um,

696
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: I liked I followed the Shine a lot. I liked

697
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: him in college. Did you? I was gonna say, did

698
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: you watch a lot of him? Liked him. It's funny

699
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 1: because Hopkins would say back in twenty fifteen, he would

700
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: say cecil because we would always try to. I always

701
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: try to keep up with the incoming class. I just

702
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: like it. I like like NBA draft, I follow all

703
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: the kids, NFL Draft. I kind of try to keep up.

704
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: It is fun to me. I've been doing this since

705
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: I was little, So he likes sees. I'm telling you

706
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: the Shoan is it the best quarterback? Best quarterback? Did

707
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: He was saying this since twenty fifteen, since he was

708
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: in college. But did you think, Okay, you're just biased

709
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: because it's Clemson. I was thinking that that I watched him,

710
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: Like what the kid is good? Something? The kids solid.

711
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: But he has the itch factor. To me, he has

712
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: the in factor that I think Houston has been missing

713
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 1: from a quarterback position, probably since they came into the league.

714
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: Because shop was awesome shop was good for for a

715
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: few years. Was a superstar, you know what I mean?

716
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 1: It was good. He's a good player, but he wasn't

717
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: a superstar. I think that this superstar potential in the

718
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: sean um and not be This is because of his legs,

719
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: but he has an incredible arm. It seemed like the

720
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: locker room when he got here. All these veterans you

721
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: normally see them act very differently towards rookies, but every

722
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: how everyone acted around de Shaun was. It was really

723
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: entertaining to me to see like JJ and Clowney and

724
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: Hopkins and all them just sort of like, you know,

725
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: standing around him and chit chatting with him. He wasn't

726
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: a rookie. He seemed like he came in and they

727
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: were just in all of what he was able to

728
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: accomplish in college. They that shows respect, um, it shows

729
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: his aura just being around him, people gravitate to him, um,

730
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: and it shows his leadership. He was able to as

731
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: a rookie and the Hunting Games play seven eight seven

732
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: seven games, six starts. In those seven games, he was

733
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: able to basically take over the NFL. I mean the

734
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: highlight rails you got Warren Moon you've got everybody all

735
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: the time, right, and it was incredible what he was

736
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: able to do. And I think, um, a few fighters

737
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: coming into play. I think will Fuller took full advantage

738
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: of that. I think. And they only had four games together.

739
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: He had like six or seven in just those four games.

740
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: I think if everybody stays healthy, this could be a

741
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: very special, uh special group. Yeah, year and four years ago.

742
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: I know everybody is just wants to see these guys

743
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: finish out the especially the way the last year ended.

744
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: When you look at DeAndre Hopkins, obviously you came in here,

745
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: he was a few years into the league, he'd pretty

746
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: much established himself. Yeah, what about his growth and where

747
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: he has solidified himself in the NFL Among the other receivers,

748
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: he's the best in the league if you asked me, Um,

749
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 1: definitely top five. He's up there with the Julio Jones,

750
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: the Antonio Browns, the Odell Beckhams. Um he's in. He's

751
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: in that category. And I think just his growth as

752
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: a leader, his growth as a route runner. Um, he

753
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: always been able to catch the ball his hands, I

754
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: mean as big as his laptop right here, but he

755
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: doesn't really really it's like he can't drop anything. Sometimes

756
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: you watch other receivers and other games incredible to drop

757
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: passes that are difficult passes to catch. And I always think,

758
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: I feel like DeAndre catches everything that comes in his

759
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: general area. It's not fair. Are really like super three

760
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: x four exercise hands and he just snatches the ball

761
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: great in the red zone. But I think just his

762
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: route running ability and his ability at the line of

763
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: scrimmag should be physical because a lot of guys that

764
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: receiver try to be finessed and they think they can't be,

765
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: especially young receivers, and they can't be as physical as

766
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: a defensive back. You can be as physical, just as

767
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: physical as them. And if you are physical like DeAndre,

768
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: it intimidates them because now they got to adjust their

769
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: game to you. They already don't know what's going on.

770
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: They're already playing backwards. Now they got to adjust their

771
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: game because he might hit me in a helmet or

772
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: he might hit me. He gonna be this as physical

773
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: with me as I am with him. And the top

774
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: of that, he can run. He's fast enough to get

775
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 1: behind you. He runs very good routes. Now, I feel

776
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: like that's something he learned from Andre Johnson because Andred

777
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: Johnson was very physical too. He was he was also

778
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: a much bigger receiver. Yes, um, I think people because

779
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: he's uh no, I think uh, excuse me. I think

780
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: Deandre's a little taller than Andre. Maybe it's got to

781
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: be closed. He might be definitely slimmer, but people think

782
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: I think people get confused with this slim. But he's strong.

783
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: He's strong, very strong, and I think he used that

784
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: to his advantage. So I think he's definitely the top

785
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: two receiver in this league easily, either to me asking me,

786
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: he's number one with a close If I could have one, A, one, B,

787
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: one cy, you know he will be one. And he's

788
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: not really had consistent quarterback play, the fact that he's

789
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: able to put up the same numbers without the chemistry.

790
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: And if you look at the other receivers, do you

791
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: have an Eli mall in a big band and Matt

792
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: Ryan consistent consistent quarterback whereas he has it and he's

793
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: still put up these type of numbers. And now they've

794
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: had this whole off season, had the whole off season,

795
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: they've been working together this whole off season, and training

796
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: camps coming up and they're out in LA right now too,

797
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: I believe out in California two on Instagram with Todd Gurley. Yeah. Yeah,

798
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: so that's that's exciting. That's exciting. We'll see what happened.

799
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: JJ used to take guys up to his cabin in Wisconsin.

800
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: I actually here from Did you go up there too?

801
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: What's a cabin like I've seen pictures. It doesn't look

802
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: like a cabin. It's not a cabin. It's pretty souped up. Yeah,

803
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: it's whatever you want to go, but it's not a gain.

804
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they're laws, they're laws, and you're out in

805
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: the country, right, Yeah, you were middle of nowhere. I

806
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: don't know where we were in Wisconsin. I'll probably never

807
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: go back to Wisconin wont it was I'm sure the

808
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: weather was nice and summer. The weather was perfect. Guy,

809
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: and there were a lot of guys that went that year.

810
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 1: He did. I think a couple of years, thirty five,

811
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: thirt you were. Yeah, I think you were part of

812
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: the year. Were a lot of the guys, A lot

813
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. So that was in that time.

814
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: That was before that, it was big time. Was that

815
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: before twenty fifteen or before twenty sixteen, you'd already played

816
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: the season twenty sixteen, so I'll played a season. I

817
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: was going into YEP training camp. So that was after

818
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: his twenty fifteen season, yeah, which was like his last

819
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: really big season healthy yep ye. And so you guys

820
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: went up there and train. What was that like? It

821
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: was fun. We was working with the guy that he

822
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: works with, um and it was good. This team building.

823
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: You got to know something, was it like really regimented?

824
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: Did he have like a schedule for you guys, like

825
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: every day? I know he brought in his family to

826
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 1: cook meals for you guys, which is really amazing. Listen,

827
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: let's talk about the food. See so important things. Let's

828
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: talk about the food his mom and dad put on.

829
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh they cooked every day and it was so for

830
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: all of you guys. Breakfast every morning, lunch, and dinner.

831
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: It was outstanding. What would they make ridiculous? So breakfast

832
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: would be I mean because it had to be healthy

833
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: saucae or not. No, it was just good food just

834
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: because it could have been a healthier side. But it

835
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: was just wholeheat pancakes ood um. So you know breakfast

836
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: is you know, pancakes, waffles, sausage, eggs, grates, the whole nine.

837
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: Anything you wanted, orange juice, anything you wanted. It was

838
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: out there lunch um, they would barbecue some days. So

839
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: it was It was awesome. I mean, it was amazing.

840
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: Lot it was. It was amazing. You got to write

841
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: four wheelers. I do remember some of those snapchat videos.

842
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: He really took care of us. Um And it was

843
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: good because I got to know a few the guys

844
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: on the team. But I still actually talked to Ben

845
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: Jones the other day. He called me and said, you

846
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: got triplets coming. He ain't say hello, that's the first

847
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: thing he said. Yeah, man, But I got to know

848
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: him better than other guys because you you're in a

849
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: uh you know, in the country, nothing else to do

850
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: but get to know but get to know each other.

851
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: That's the ultimate team bonding. So it was pretty cool.

852
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. Did you have a different perception

853
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: of JJ after that trip. I know you'd already played

854
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: a season with him, but you were in Jacksonville, so

855
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: you obviously knew what JJ could do on the field. Yeah,

856
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: but then after spending spending time with him here and

857
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 1: up there, like what, you know, what were your perceptions

858
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: after that? You have to meet his whole family. I

859
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: got to meet his whole family, and I just, uh,

860
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: you always had a respect for somebody. On the day

861
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: wenter that great UM and then my first year year

862
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit. We woul clown a little bit,

863
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: but really getting in a place like that in his

864
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: hometown or his you know, his his place with his

865
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: family or got to know him better. I got to

866
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: see the regular JJ instead of more of the JJ

867
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: wat everybody else. I mean, because in the season, everybody's

868
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: business like we're going kind of you know, the position

869
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: groups will stick together and go out to eat and

870
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: stuff like that, so we don't really get to hang

871
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: out with UM or me per se out the family,

872
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: So I didn't get to really hang out everybody else

873
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: all the time. So just to see him and get

874
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: to know him a little better, this is about a

875
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: whole different like and it was pretty cool. It was

876
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: pretty cool to see him just be regular, just to

877
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: be around his brothers having fun, talking trash. So it

878
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: was it was cool. It was cool. Great to hear

879
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: from CC, one of the best guys I've ever met

880
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: in that Texas locker room, who was here in twenty fifteen.

881
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: A lot of doing folks a big thanks to Drew,

882
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: to Dpat, to Cecil, to Joe Amroff with the great

883
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: work he did our players take count. Whitney Mercial's well

884
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: more of those for you the rest of this week

885
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 1: and next before training camp. Thanks to Listen everybody will

886
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: see it tomorrow and as always, go texting