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Speaker 1: You know who it is, DJ Screen, Big Baker, Ship,
Speaker 1: Baby Jade. This here's time for another episode of Big
Speaker 1: Facts and today when we'll be having a conversation. You know,
Speaker 1: we have conversations, you know with hustlers from all different
Speaker 1: walks of life. If you're a hustler, we respect that.
Speaker 1: The day we are very very very very happy to
Speaker 1: have and David, CEO and founder of check Makes Sports
Speaker 1: in the building. And he is also the son of
Speaker 1: the legendary Big Duke from Boys in the Hood. Right, Yes,
Speaker 1: I said, I'm his first born man. Yeah, when you started,
Speaker 1: when you started to come. So we launched Checkmate Sports
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. Got into the industry about two
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, working with other agents, interning, trying to you know,
Speaker 1: find my way in and then eventually learned the game.
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and start Chetmate. So we launched in two thousand nine.
Speaker 1: Team have been up and running ever since. And what
Speaker 1: made you decide to go that route because the average
Speaker 1: so that the average, the average young black man wants
Speaker 1: to play sports a rap. Let's just keep it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So what made you decide, man,
Speaker 1: I want to go be an Asian and help it's
Speaker 1: not their money up kind of got him along the
Speaker 1: right path and all that ship. Man, that's a good question. Honestly,
Speaker 1: seeing my dad in the music industry, you know he
Speaker 1: started out with Suave House, Social Death and all that,
Speaker 1: and just seeing him basically he was giving me the
Speaker 1: game at such a young age, like, man, this music
Speaker 1: industry ain't what you think it is. And so instead
Speaker 1: of it turned me on and trying to get into
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, pops, well you did this.
Speaker 1: You know you're giving me the game. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and I'm gonna go this way. So I used
Speaker 1: to tell you some of the bullshit they're going on
Speaker 1: in there from day one, like what some of the things,
Speaker 1: what some of the some stuff I ain't even say that,
Speaker 1: but it's some stuff. You know, that a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going, you know, casting couches and
Speaker 1: craziest type of stuff to get into the industry. And
Speaker 1: it was something that I wasn't, you know, just morally
Speaker 1: just it just it wasn't aligned with that. So I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, Um, either I was gonna try to
Speaker 1: be a producer, a DJ or something like that, but
Speaker 1: I just didn't have the skill set for But I
Speaker 1: played ball. I was a quarterback, was really good at that.
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, this my lane. So I've
Speaker 1: been rocking with that ever since. Yeah, that's how I go.
Speaker 1: You ain't forcing, you ain't trying to force something that
Speaker 1: you ain't feel, right, I mean, at least you got
Speaker 1: something to you. So right now, I got about five.
Speaker 1: We got two guys that went into the league. Travis
Speaker 1: Read from South Alabama, we got him to the Colts
Speaker 1: and Christian Angelo from Hempton University. He ended up going
Speaker 1: to the New York Giants. And now the cool thing
Speaker 1: about that is we did that in the heart of
Speaker 1: the pandemic. So we launched check Make Sports in two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, and it was crazy because our first draft
Speaker 1: class ended up going into the draft in two thousand twenty.
Speaker 1: But we all know what happened in two thousand and
Speaker 1: twenty with COVID. So our first year we're coming out
Speaker 1: the gate trying to make a name for ourselves. We
Speaker 1: put about kids, these guys training and then comes for
Speaker 1: you know, when it gets ready for them to go
Speaker 1: to Pro Day in March two thousand and twenty, they
Speaker 1: shut everything down. So when you put the twenty or
Speaker 1: thirty thousand into their training and you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, how do you guarantee that you
Speaker 1: recoup There's no guarantee. That's Gere breaking artists, You're breaking athletes.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. That's that's the crazy part about it.
Speaker 1: How hard it ben Ship like, man, It's it's it's
Speaker 1: difficult anything I think, in any in any industry when
Speaker 1: you're black, especially when going into the industries where we're
Speaker 1: not known. You know, like if you start the record
Speaker 1: label's cool, you know what I'm saying, We don't see
Speaker 1: bird Man. We see people who did it. But when
Speaker 1: you get into the sports world and that good old
Speaker 1: boy network, it's a little difficult. Um. And that's why
Speaker 1: I had to launch Chat Make Sports because I was
Speaker 1: interning for other agents trying to get in, but they
Speaker 1: were always little brother me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They would just made me do a little you know
Speaker 1: bs word microsoftic sales stuff like that. So I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna stand my bread up.
Speaker 1: And then you know, we took off with chetmate for sure.
Speaker 1: What's your stuff? Your stuff, your whole stuff? Black that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I used to have the expanding guy, but he ended
Speaker 1: up started his little agency and stuff like that. We
Speaker 1: put them on, but right now it is all black on. OK.
Speaker 1: So what's your how you well, what is your approach
Speaker 1: to keep athletes like on the proper path to get
Speaker 1: to that level of that draft because keeping the real
Speaker 1: we don't have athletes say that, keep it real like
Speaker 1: I smoked lane or do this or do that? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you obviously know now this
Speaker 1: is your investment. You don't put money into him. It's
Speaker 1: a little different than the wrapper. Keep it healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, what's some of the
Speaker 1: ship you do to keep them negging straight in? Now? Right?
Speaker 1: Another thing that could suck these athletes up to the women.
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. Someone can have vices with women,
Speaker 1: be going to crazy, they on practice day focus. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying That that that can suck it up.
Speaker 1: So how you keep them how you keeping focus on
Speaker 1: outside looking in. When you're a fan or when you
Speaker 1: just watch the game as a novice, you know you
Speaker 1: wonder why certain players stay in the lead longer than others.
Speaker 1: And then when you start to get in an agent
Speaker 1: or in the industry where you're investing in these players,
Speaker 1: you start to respect guys like Lyric Fish, jerr Than
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and guys who got the talent and stay
Speaker 1: out of trouble. But to be honest, most of these guys,
Speaker 1: man there, it's it's they got the egos, a lot
Speaker 1: of them with divas and stuff like that. But that's
Speaker 1: why they need the diva's. Man. Man, I had a
Speaker 1: guy I got him to the league and I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna say his name, but it was crazy because I
Speaker 1: got him to the league after all the pandemic stuff.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. He got to be one of the
Speaker 1: two people. But you know, so't gonna but he get
Speaker 1: him to the league, right. He called me four am.
Speaker 1: I think he got arrested. Something crazy to happened. I
Speaker 1: picked up the point, like what's going on? I feel
Speaker 1: like jarryguis somebout here goes He's like, man, I want
Speaker 1: to come home. I said, but what what happened? He's
Speaker 1: just like man um. I walked into in the in
Speaker 1: the in the team room and I seen the depth
Speaker 1: chart and I was like, okay, what happened? Man? They
Speaker 1: had me last on it on the depth chart. I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: then what happened? Nothing, that's it. I'm last. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna play. You was un undrafted. You
Speaker 1: be happy there, you know what I'm saying there? And
Speaker 1: so we had it was like five am. Had to
Speaker 1: call his mom's dad. We're sitting on the phone. We're
Speaker 1: just having a whole little uh were trying to keep
Speaker 1: him from jumping off the cliff. So that right there
Speaker 1: was my first little thing, like, man, these guys that
Speaker 1: that mentally their egos and stuff like that, Like they
Speaker 1: need a team around him because it's a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on them. You know, they all get hit in
Speaker 1: the head. You know, that's just a part of the football.
Speaker 1: What the kind of question with that? I think he's
Speaker 1: talking about the CTV and yeah, you think that was
Speaker 1: not that had anything to do with it. Now, I mean,
Speaker 1: he was a rookie, so he ain't been in the
Speaker 1: league that long. But it's just the you know, the
Speaker 1: nerves and stuff like that. That's all everybody getting hit
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking right. Hey, so what kind of D
Speaker 1: What kind of D should ship? Man you believe it
Speaker 1: or not, man um. A lot of times the athletes
Speaker 1: get a bad, bad rap, but it's the people around them.
Speaker 1: You know. When you get into the industry, you start
Speaker 1: realizing that it would be the handlers, the middleman, the mom,
Speaker 1: the dad, the cousins, who more Hollywood than the actual athlete.
Speaker 1: You know. So that's the stuff that you have to
Speaker 1: deal with as an agent. You know, if you're trying
Speaker 1: to talk to a player, they may be locked in
Speaker 1: on football, they locked in on basketball or whatever. But
Speaker 1: then you have to go out here, say, okay, talk
Speaker 1: to my uncle, talk to my dad talking about you know,
Speaker 1: so now you gotta go talk to the dad who
Speaker 1: talking to three other agents, you know, who may promise
Speaker 1: them a job, promise them you know x amount. So
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stuff similar to the music industry.
Speaker 1: It's that it's the same thing. It's just instead of
Speaker 1: they rapping, they throwing the football catching it. It's funny,
Speaker 1: it's one of these guys I was recruiting and I
Speaker 1: actually drove up to his house. You know, I went
Speaker 1: in and I went into the house. Uh, buddy, put
Speaker 1: me onto him. I walked in the house. They had
Speaker 1: twenty tho dollars and once on the table. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking around. I'm thinking like, okay, this is set up,
Speaker 1: like what's going on? Come to find out his dad
Speaker 1: owned a I can't say what it because the people
Speaker 1: are linking, but he owns a business where he needs
Speaker 1: a lot of ones, you get it. So they he
Speaker 1: there cash, you know, counting money on the table stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So I'm like, okay, I ain't gonna say,
Speaker 1: but I'm just I look. I'm like, okay, you know
Speaker 1: that's what's up. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 1: see what already with this conversation, go ahead. So I
Speaker 1: do my little pitch, you know, and then at the
Speaker 1: end they're looking at me. They're like, okay, so you know,
Speaker 1: if I feel it, like what's up? What y'all got
Speaker 1: to say? Let's let's say it. And it was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, you're gonna gonna put some money up aside.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so I sit back in the chair like,
Speaker 1: oh man, it's gonna be one of these conversations. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was making some money. I mean, that's cool, but
Speaker 1: I just has to make let me say that's cool,
Speaker 1: it's that's I understand that that's part of the game.
Speaker 1: But a lot of times people, you know, be throwing
Speaker 1: out astronomical numbers. So what solo? Let me let me
Speaker 1: see this. So what an agent job to do? When
Speaker 1: I come to you? How am I selling myself to you?
Speaker 1: Like if you come if I was if I was
Speaker 1: a prospect right now, what would you come tell me
Speaker 1: and my family if he was a First of all,
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that you're gonna be the
Speaker 1: focal point of our you know agency. A lot of
Speaker 1: times players go to the agencies that have a hundred clients.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I'm already that, I'm already that, I'm
Speaker 1: already him. I'm already that nigga. What you're gonna tell
Speaker 1: me to make me basically, what I'm gonna do is
Speaker 1: just show them that we're gonna work for him, fight
Speaker 1: for him, and have their best interest at heart. You know,
Speaker 1: we took two guys that were under the radar and
Speaker 1: that was unranked, you know, Travis and Christian from HBCUs
Speaker 1: so imagine what we can do for a player like
Speaker 1: you from Georgia, Alabama, USC things like that. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that what I'm saying, I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I'm saying is I'm already that nigga coming
Speaker 1: out of high school. I know I'm gonna be the
Speaker 1: ship's But you're trying to sign me. What are you
Speaker 1: telling me? You're telling me some ship that I'm already
Speaker 1: that's already gonna happen. And he's probably hearing it. Let's
Speaker 1: just keep it real. He probably hearing it. Even though
Speaker 1: you're the black agent. He at his heart he want
Speaker 1: to funk with you, But here hearing it from the
Speaker 1: white agency. Like what you're gonna say special? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it ain't something special to say. It's just building that relationship.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna say the same thing. But who you wrought
Speaker 1: with you know who's gonna be there. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: what it is. At the end of the day. We
Speaker 1: all got the same money, We're all gonna pay for
Speaker 1: the same training, we all passed the same example. We
Speaker 1: all can do negotiate the same contracts. It's just who
Speaker 1: do you like, who do you relate with? Some ball
Speaker 1: here telling me he couldn't get me got dam two
Speaker 1: or three on a thousand and he already got god damn.
Speaker 1: They can't do that though, Yeah, what you mean they
Speaker 1: can't do that? But it is Yeah, so what you mean, Oh,
Speaker 1: so when they ask you for money, that's illegal. That's
Speaker 1: why I'd be like, you know, we gotta sit back
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I mean, it's illegal. But
Speaker 1: then there's ways that people maneuver around you. Go ahead, Ja,
Speaker 1: ask your question, Jake, go ahead, go ahead about that.
Speaker 1: I already asked answer that. I guess. It's like it's
Speaker 1: not not doing that. It's like it's like choosing a lawyer,
Speaker 1: Like it's the lawyer that you trust or the manager
Speaker 1: or whatever. So it's just a nigga to go represent
Speaker 1: you like a man. That's what the sports they put
Speaker 1: a little bit into you because they got to get
Speaker 1: you training ship. What about the niggas, like we know
Speaker 1: how you see the nigg in the hood like funk
Speaker 1: with all the athlete coming up and make sure they
Speaker 1: go to the middle man. Oh, they didn't need to
Speaker 1: bring it to the age they get paid. They like
Speaker 1: the A and R. So they're gonna find the town.
Speaker 1: Then they go take it to the aging, they go
Speaker 1: take it to whoever. Yeah, so they get paid to
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, on the back end, finders figure
Speaker 1: or some right on the back if that player blows.
Speaker 1: But I heard say the percentage with the agent, like
Speaker 1: I think it's like fou pucent, they give you a
Speaker 1: five percent. A lot of that stuff is is really
Speaker 1: they're not supposed to be doing that. So if I've
Speaker 1: been taking to take care of you because you can't
Speaker 1: do it as age saying that, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: that stuff that they're doing is is under the table.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. But it ain't supposed to
Speaker 1: be like that. So this is the out the thing
Speaker 1: that they've been saying about college athletes. Right that's why
Speaker 1: that this passed and right now they can get some
Speaker 1: before that is one of the nes to starve. And
Speaker 1: that's where everybody has been kind of protesting the n
Speaker 1: C Double A and all that ship because it's like
Speaker 1: you can't do nothing, you can't do that, you can
Speaker 1: get no money here. All you can do is play
Speaker 1: football and go to go to class don't make sense
Speaker 1: because a lot of these niggas coming from nothing and
Speaker 1: their family at home fucked up, and you're telling me
Speaker 1: I can't get no money. So why you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna do something legal ships? Exactly? I got to gotta
Speaker 1: take some type of risk. I don't want this, ain't guarantee.
Speaker 1: Is the one thing about that one thing and go wrong?
Speaker 1: You take one hit, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: the crazy part is the universities, the coaches, everybody else
Speaker 1: making millions of dollars, but the players and athletes they not.
Speaker 1: They always getting short. What's like marketing for for like?
Speaker 1: So that the best way I can explain it is
Speaker 1: I feel like athletes are now the new influences. So
Speaker 1: you know how you got Jake Paul and these guys
Speaker 1: making money and dollars, but now they're trying to get
Speaker 1: into boxing. But now you've got guys like you know,
Speaker 1: just think of Reggie Bush when he was coming out. Say,
Speaker 1: when these guys were megastars, but they wasn't able to
Speaker 1: capitalize off of it. But now if you've got four
Speaker 1: or five million followers, you can hook up with a
Speaker 1: UH supplement company. You can hook up with up and
Speaker 1: coming Nike or something like that, and promoted to your brand,
Speaker 1: you know, to your social media, and now you get paid.
Speaker 1: And that's gonna change the landscape for ages because now
Speaker 1: if you were a big firm and you just say hey,
Speaker 1: so and so, I'm gonna throw you a hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars if you're a freshman, been making you know, to
Speaker 1: three million a year, a hundred thousands on men, you know,
Speaker 1: So now it's not it's no longer about who got
Speaker 1: the bigger bag. It's really about the right thing. Who
Speaker 1: do you relate to, who do you trust, and who
Speaker 1: do you feel you know got your best interests. So
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, I'm really excited and I'm mos
Speaker 1: focused now on the college athletes because it gives you
Speaker 1: a step ahead because a lot of these agents don't
Speaker 1: know who the best players are. They just wait to
Speaker 1: see who ESPN say, oh he's a number one player,
Speaker 1: and then they go throw backs. They got the mud.
Speaker 1: They don't know, They don't know the real talent to
Speaker 1: everybody else knowing. So for ages like me and people
Speaker 1: who really know the game, you know, you be knowing
Speaker 1: these guys night tim grade years, you know, build that
Speaker 1: relationship with them, and then when they become superstars, you
Speaker 1: already got you already locked there, you already got So
Speaker 1: what's your what's what you do is something that happens.
Speaker 1: So sometimes a rapper might be signed to a CEO
Speaker 1: one to three records or whatever the case is, right,
Speaker 1: and then I don't know, the eyes might get big
Speaker 1: and somebody might get in the end and they'll be like, man,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be with you no more. I
Speaker 1: want to be with them. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: crazy at the top of the Bailly on top. That's
Speaker 1: how I'm doing on the commercial. So how how would
Speaker 1: you deal with an athlete that you went and got
Speaker 1: out the mud, put the money into them, training them
Speaker 1: all that ship, and somebody got his and be like, bro,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be with you no more. I
Speaker 1: want to go be with the mother folks. I think
Speaker 1: the first thing you gotta do is you can't take
Speaker 1: it personal because that's just part of the business and
Speaker 1: you treated just like a relationship with your significant other.
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be somebody trying to get at them.
Speaker 1: But if you're doing your job, doing right by all
Speaker 1: you can do is just trust and hope that you
Speaker 1: know the right thing. But do people get in their
Speaker 1: ear most definitely. But that's why you gotta have certain
Speaker 1: things in place where if I put X amount of
Speaker 1: dollars in you and you go somewhere else, I need
Speaker 1: to get that back. So that's how it go. Okay.
Speaker 1: So what's some of the other ship that that you
Speaker 1: thought about getting into other than sports or some other
Speaker 1: business or some other ship you've got going on? Man.
Speaker 1: So the cool thing about what I did was it
Speaker 1: was so hard for me to get into the industry.
Speaker 1: And I noticed, you know, it was difficult, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was like just being a black guy into
Speaker 1: into the industry. I said, man, it's you know, the
Speaker 1: good old boy network. But come to find out, it
Speaker 1: was a lot of ages that looked like me that
Speaker 1: wasn't helping me out get into it. Those were the guys.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the Caucasian people. Now it's not a cover,
Speaker 1: it's an outside thing. Is the people on the inside.
Speaker 1: They like being on the inside. They don't want to
Speaker 1: keep you, they don't want to keep us in there.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, and the cool, you know,
Speaker 1: crazy thing is my um my principal from high school.
Speaker 1: He was actually an agent. You know. I've reached out
Speaker 1: to him a couple of times, try to intern with them.
Speaker 1: Never gave me an opportunity, So I kind of took
Speaker 1: that to heart. I was like, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: when I had my breakthrough, I'm gonna do something where
Speaker 1: we can help people not just like me, just people
Speaker 1: just want to get in have an opportunity. So what
Speaker 1: we did was we actually launched the check Make Sports
Speaker 1: Agent master Class in janeweary and since Jane, where we've
Speaker 1: helped over seventy people, you know, become sports agents. And
Speaker 1: the cool thing about it is they do it without
Speaker 1: having to go to law school, so you don't have to.
Speaker 1: Is your your classes able to certify them to do
Speaker 1: what they need to do, and then you can certify
Speaker 1: an they can go through your ship and become a
Speaker 1: license actual credentials. Yeah. Cool think about it is because
Speaker 1: I actually heard about hill Um last year during the summertime.
Speaker 1: Another agent I was talking to. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: you know, Neil's gonna come out. I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: change the game. And I'm always one of those people
Speaker 1: who try to see, you know, stuff before it happens.
Speaker 1: So I ended up doing my research and I said, man,
Speaker 1: this is this is a game changing. We don't have
Speaker 1: to invest in these you know, these athletes, no more
Speaker 1: going to the league. We can get them in freshman
Speaker 1: sophomore year for for nothing, just building that relationship and
Speaker 1: then do right by me and and then ride that way.
Speaker 1: So I ended up writing the book The n I
Speaker 1: L Goal rushed back in November, and then we launched
Speaker 1: the company, um, the program in janewear, and since then,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been amazing. So holding up man, Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I hope you see to push forward man, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy because, um, I've noticed that
Speaker 1: a lot of these other agents, you know, the big
Speaker 1: time agents that we all hear about, it's not because
Speaker 1: they were you know, some smart guys something something like that.
Speaker 1: It's just somebody it out for him, you know, somebody
Speaker 1: brought him in. And I noticed a lot of people
Speaker 1: in other communities they were bringing me Oh you're sawing, nephew,
Speaker 1: come on, you know what I'm saying. But for us,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yo, you look like me. Listen. That
Speaker 1: was like it kind of pushed you away because they
Speaker 1: liked being the only one in there. So I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna flip the script, and that's what
Speaker 1: we've been doing. So let me ask you this. So
Speaker 1: when you were in high school, did you is this
Speaker 1: something that you wanted to do or is this something
Speaker 1: that you just kind of like figured would be the
Speaker 1: best way for you to kind of get out of
Speaker 1: what you were doing. Are you interested in sports and ship? Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course I played. I played football. It's a high
Speaker 1: school quarterback. So I wouldn't to go to the league,
Speaker 1: of course, like everybody. And then I came out. I
Speaker 1: came out with Cam Newton and Russell Wilson, and I
Speaker 1: was because Cam Newton six five, maybe this ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: So I had to pivot. And I was like, it
Speaker 1: was either between being a coach and being and an agent.
Speaker 1: And then I just like the lifestyle. I liked the
Speaker 1: control of my income of an agent, and I like
Speaker 1: being an advocate in bent to fight for these players.
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: agent round and that's what happened. So you had to
Speaker 1: take a class to go to school for the ship. Yes,
Speaker 1: So originally the way that we've all known to become
Speaker 1: an agent, and you either have to go to law
Speaker 1: school or you have to get your masters. So I
Speaker 1: ended up going to Virginia State from my undergrad went
Speaker 1: to Georgia State, got my masters, and then took the
Speaker 1: certification exam for the NFL and did it that way. Man.
Speaker 1: I actually took the exam in two thou eighteen. Right.
Speaker 1: It's sixty questions. Um, it was forty two to pass.
Speaker 1: I got forty seven, right, And that's how the NFL act.
Speaker 1: Right after we took the exam, they said, you know what,
Speaker 1: too many people passed the exam, so we're gonna move
Speaker 1: the score from a forty two to a forty eight.
Speaker 1: So I got only seven. Yeah, So I get it
Speaker 1: in the mail. I see you made forty seven out
Speaker 1: of yes, I passed. That's good. And then they said,
Speaker 1: but we ended up because they said it's a scaled exam.
Speaker 1: They said, so on, so many people passed it, so
Speaker 1: we moved it to a forty eight. I said, why
Speaker 1: so the crazy things? You only could take it once
Speaker 1: a year, so I had to wait an entire year
Speaker 1: study all over again. Lock in, you know, locking, because
Speaker 1: that test ain't easy. And I ended up passing it
Speaker 1: the following take the example and uh, but the cool
Speaker 1: thing is now with the new law that passed, now
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that anymore. So you can't
Speaker 1: take it without your master. No, well you gotta he
Speaker 1: your regularly exactly, but now you can. Now you don't
Speaker 1: have to do that anymore. Now you don't have to
Speaker 1: go to law school. You don't have to have your masters.
Speaker 1: But the industry don't want you to know that, because
Speaker 1: of course they want to keep making all the money.
Speaker 1: So with the new law that passed in July first
Speaker 1: that allows student athletes to get paid. Now, all you
Speaker 1: have to do is go through a certification program like
Speaker 1: what we offer, and you can become aging thirty days.
Speaker 1: So this is something that the Big Facts found was
Speaker 1: like our listeners of people would ask some questions like this, right,
Speaker 1: what kind of money? And do an agent make? What
Speaker 1: kind of money is really in this ship? So high
Speaker 1: end everybody knows rich Paul right, yeah, so last year,
Speaker 1: cording to Force, he made forty five millions and he
Speaker 1: was like number right, number nine. Now Scott Boris is
Speaker 1: always ringing number nine agent, Yeah, right, number nine. I
Speaker 1: think it's eight or nine for the top ten highest
Speaker 1: paid agents for two thousand and twenty, so in the
Speaker 1: calendar year in the pandemic he made forty five million.
Speaker 1: Now Scott Boris is number one. They ranked him. I
Speaker 1: think he made soccer players and no baseball. He got
Speaker 1: all the baseball players, so he did a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty million, and then second was the soccer guy. He
Speaker 1: ended up doing like a hundred and ten million. So
Speaker 1: the thing about being an agent, it's a bunch of
Speaker 1: bs to get to the other side. But once you
Speaker 1: get in that top ten, it's crazy because you think
Speaker 1: about it. Scott Booris made a hundred and sixty million,
Speaker 1: Lebron made eighty, Floyd made like a hundred. Messy made
Speaker 1: like a home because he multiple gets ages and making
Speaker 1: more money than the players. So it's, uh, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Yeah. So but I'm saying on the
Speaker 1: ground level, like just getting into it, like the ground levels,
Speaker 1: just like anything music, uh, Wall Street, the top twenty
Speaker 1: percent of the ones who making all the money, everybody
Speaker 1: else pretty much you can. But I mean when I
Speaker 1: say making all the money, making the millions eight nine figures,
Speaker 1: now you can get in and you can make you know,
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand here and there, But you don't become
Speaker 1: an agent to make six figures. I made six figures
Speaker 1: before I became an agent. You become an agent to
Speaker 1: make millions, you know, like sick money, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's what you're doing. If you're doing
Speaker 1: it for a hundred thousand, you can go do host
Speaker 1: the real estates and stuff like that to get that.
Speaker 1: But for this, this is strictly five, ten, twenty hunter million.
Speaker 1: When you're when you're scouting, like your prospective clients and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, Um, what do you do to kind of,
Speaker 1: for lack of a better way to put it, rail
Speaker 1: them in and maintain that relationship all the way up
Speaker 1: until it's time for them to actually get signed. So
Speaker 1: when it just depends on how you coming. If you're
Speaker 1: coming in with a bag, if you got you know,
Speaker 1: so so and so behind you put about two or
Speaker 1: three million, you can go in and do pretty much
Speaker 1: what you want to do. But most people coming in
Speaker 1: how I came in with, you know, chromes compared to them,
Speaker 1: You got to find the diamonds in the rough, so
Speaker 1: you got to really know the talent. So that's why
Speaker 1: we went after the guys went after our first year
Speaker 1: because we knew that the bigger agents wasn't gonna be
Speaker 1: on them, So we had to go find those guys,
Speaker 1: build that relationship, and then you know, hopefully it blossom
Speaker 1: into the league in the next level. But I mean,
Speaker 1: like on a personal level, how do you what do
Speaker 1: you do to kind of like keep them under your
Speaker 1: wing so that they don't go with something what I
Speaker 1: think I think, or keep them loyal to you. I
Speaker 1: think the best thing to do is just be a professional.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes agents or people who want to get
Speaker 1: into industry, they want to be the friend. They want
Speaker 1: to be the buddy. They got enough friends, they got
Speaker 1: enough buddies. They need somebody that they can trust when
Speaker 1: ship hit the fan. They want to make sure that, Okay,
Speaker 1: my agent know what he's doing. My agent gonna stand
Speaker 1: on the table for me. He don't protect me. So
Speaker 1: as long as you're being a professional, doing right by them,
Speaker 1: not lying, you know, being upfront with them, I think
Speaker 1: that's the way the best practice. I mean, everybody has
Speaker 1: what works for them, but I think that is the
Speaker 1: best way to maintain that relationship because if you go
Speaker 1: in trying to be a friend. Then your client gonna
Speaker 1: turn into a diva and now they're gonna start calling
Speaker 1: you at you know, making you know, just treating you
Speaker 1: like a servant, you know, and you don't want to
Speaker 1: be that. You wanted to be mutual respect amongst you
Speaker 1: and your clients. So what you do when you see
Speaker 1: that man, Okay, I can see he got a little
Speaker 1: bit of that ship in him. He gonna go straight.
Speaker 1: I don't do it. I don't deal with it. My
Speaker 1: first first couple of years, I dealt with it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just trying to break my name.
Speaker 1: But now that I got my name, I don't deal
Speaker 1: with it because the money ain't it ain't worth it,
Speaker 1: you know. It's just man. The worst thing that having
Speaker 1: no client is a bad client. I tell people that
Speaker 1: all the time, because they're gonna call you, they're gonna
Speaker 1: blow your phone up, and then they're not gonna do
Speaker 1: the right thing. The worst thing you can do is
Speaker 1: stand on the table for a player, you know, put
Speaker 1: up X amount of dollars, call a team, fight for
Speaker 1: me to get a workout. And then he get there
Speaker 1: and then he got he got an attitude problem, or
Speaker 1: he doing the wrong thing, because then what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: now with those teams gonna be like, who who's guys? This?
Speaker 1: That's it guy. So now if I got another guy called,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, I don't know. So that's why
Speaker 1: you don't want to attach your name to you know,
Speaker 1: players like that. In the league is different front the
Speaker 1: music industry. You know, the league is real. If you
Speaker 1: don't act right, they're gonna get you up out of there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I realized that I
Speaker 1: take the same approach they take. They're not going to
Speaker 1: invest in the player million. So why should I invest
Speaker 1: in my player, you know, into a player if they're
Speaker 1: not acting right? But should should? Should athletes be aware
Speaker 1: of the flashy agent because some agents, some agents go
Speaker 1: get a lot of ship jury watches, cars and all
Speaker 1: that ship the kind of real them in but they
Speaker 1: really don't be knowing the business. I don't heard that too,
Speaker 1: you know what that that's what everybody say. But I
Speaker 1: had that model do what winners do. And I hate
Speaker 1: to say that, but that's what people like. You know,
Speaker 1: people like that that that flashiness. I don't do it.
Speaker 1: I'm dabbling into it a little bit. But it's just
Speaker 1: not me personally, you know what I'm saying. I just
Speaker 1: I'm more of a substant guy over flash um, just
Speaker 1: because you know, growing up in the music industry on
Speaker 1: the inside, I've seen everybody. Everybody thought had money, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I saw the flag. I grew
Speaker 1: up early ninety, so I saw Atlanta. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looked good on TV. And then I'm seeing them
Speaker 1: coming back, you know, sleeping on somebody couch. You know.
Speaker 1: So I don't really care about the flash. I care
Speaker 1: about the substance. But you know, some ages they win
Speaker 1: with that. But I don't think it's gonna last because
Speaker 1: athletes are no longer going to be broke. You know,
Speaker 1: if I come to the table and I've been eating Raymond,
Speaker 1: you know, eating Raymond noodles for the last four years,
Speaker 1: and then somebody dropped a hundred thousand dollars, that's like, whoa, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's cool. But if you know, with this name image
Speaker 1: of lightness, now athletes getting hundred hundred thousand dollars for
Speaker 1: a post, so that's like okay. And a lot of
Speaker 1: these agents who flashy, they cover it up, you know,
Speaker 1: they cover up being corny, they cover up not relating
Speaker 1: to their these Yeah, so it's just like that. It's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I can't, I ain't. I ain't got a mouthpiece,
Speaker 1: I can't relate. So you know what, take all this money,
Speaker 1: take all his money. And the bad part about that
Speaker 1: is it's just it's a transaction. It's like if you
Speaker 1: buy your significant other, if you pay for she's gonna
Speaker 1: be she's gonna be out the first time she hit
Speaker 1: the fan. But if you gotta organic relationship, she's gonna
Speaker 1: be there with you. That's why a lot of times
Speaker 1: athletes get out the league or they're get in a
Speaker 1: bad spot and they call the agent. The agent like, dude,
Speaker 1: I got ninety other clients. I'm gonna go rot with them.
Speaker 1: You know, I see you later. Because it's a transaction,
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I put the money up. You do
Speaker 1: your part. But those agents who went in for the
Speaker 1: right reason, they're gonna be there and they're gonna fight
Speaker 1: for him. What's some value of ship your pops taught you, dude,
Speaker 1: just on some life ship outside of sportsman, to be
Speaker 1: just some life ship, how to how to move around
Speaker 1: out here? Anything? Told me a five minute decision could
Speaker 1: change your life. A five minute decision can change your life.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you just think about that, from from
Speaker 1: sex to drugs too freaking you know, pulling the trigger.
Speaker 1: You know, anything you can do in five minutes that
Speaker 1: could change a whole outlook on life. So when he
Speaker 1: said that, um, that was that really stuck with me.
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff. I remember. I remember when um,
Speaker 1: the R. Kelly stuff came out back in the day
Speaker 1: and I was talking to Pops like Pops, um, I
Speaker 1: don't think he did he rich And I remember I
Speaker 1: was driving down Brown's and me or I was going
Speaker 1: to football. He pulled a call. He looked, he said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: don't you ever say that? Man? And I didn't realized
Speaker 1: that at the time. You get what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: he was just like, you can never put anything past
Speaker 1: people because of money. And I was just you know,
Speaker 1: and it's stuck with me. And he always a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that he said back then. It didn't hit
Speaker 1: me until I got older and I just started realizing, like, man,
Speaker 1: he really he really put me up on game and
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to Pops and shout out to
Speaker 1: shout out to shout out to my mom. She just
Speaker 1: her cancer went too remission. I'm really I'm really happy
Speaker 1: about that because that came out of nowhere and she
Speaker 1: beat that. So she's shout out to her because that
Speaker 1: was dope to see her. And you're from the east side, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Stone Stone Mountain, Ye going to race? Yeah, Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: on the upcome man a lot. You know back that
Speaker 1: they used to be the cat you know now everybody,
Speaker 1: all the motors and shakers coming out of Stone Mine.
Speaker 1: So what's the most iconic song gonna last ten ft
Speaker 1: ten years? Please don't say swag serve? Yeah it is
Speaker 1: we got We got no offense to this wag serving people.
Speaker 1: But that ship be that is the biggest ship crazy
Speaker 1: because that ship like swas surfing is not I don't
Speaker 1: know about to play some wife changing and niggas that
Speaker 1: came from Stone Mountain. I can name thirty niggas that
Speaker 1: came from the West Side that didn't change. Are they
Speaker 1: relevant right now? Talking about everybody? Who are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about plenty of people. We got the Stone
Speaker 1: shout to the whole hotel and all the surrounding yet
Speaker 1: to everybody. But I am curious of who some of
Speaker 1: these Stone Mountains. Okay, I'm curious. I'm just curious. I'm
Speaker 1: not signing. So that's time I checked. Switch Beaks was
Speaker 1: from Stoneman. Is a don't you coman? I'm hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: Stoneman really one and a half. Okay, yeah, because this
Speaker 1: nigga claims New York. Come on, no, he's not. He
Speaker 1: he got we got got damn sweat, sir, and child
Speaker 1: is gonna be the child got beano who Let's take
Speaker 1: swa out there, y'all. Man, he's from New York. Okay,
Speaker 1: we got we got me easy easy running the city
Speaker 1: right now? Facts that out of me? Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: and um and I'm just thinking about like that's enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's enough. Yeah, that's got mountain, I would read to say.
Speaker 1: And then we got the sports World. We got Mars Shawn.
Speaker 1: We got Drew who plus Mars Shawn Brooks. Oh yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, we had Drew end up going to the
Speaker 1: nigga Java. They turned up. You got me reading for industry, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh up, pretty tight? Pretty oh yeah yeah so Stone
Speaker 1: you know, turn off? Yeah, yeah, here for the boys.
Speaker 1: Not about the whole ship started at the eight room
Speaker 1: right there on the More. I always that boy Stone
Speaker 1: Mount scream, I said my whole ship. I didn't say Screen,
Speaker 1: but he running the Fitness World Facts Stone. It sounds
Speaker 1: like east Side. It sounds like if y'all want me
Speaker 1: to start naming all day with the east Side so
Speaker 1: we can go out. But what we're doing, what's next?
Speaker 1: Screen was moving on? So what the future looked like
Speaker 1: for you, man? The future is bright. Um. Honestly, when
Speaker 1: I first got into the industry, I felt like it
Speaker 1: was a race to race to the bottom because if
Speaker 1: you had a bag, you wasn't going to beat these
Speaker 1: big ages. You know what I'm saying. You can go
Speaker 1: in there trying to be cool and all that, but
Speaker 1: it was coming in with a crazy check and money talk.
Speaker 1: But now with this new this new Neil, it changed
Speaker 1: the game. The landscape is it's a it's a blue ocean,
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's the wild wild West right now.
Speaker 1: So as far as our company and check Make Sports,
Speaker 1: we're getting into the space of more representing UM athletes,
Speaker 1: professional and student athletes on the marketing side and educating
Speaker 1: people so that they can do it because it's a
Speaker 1: lot of moms, it's a lot of dads who got
Speaker 1: sons and daughters who may not be Reggie Bush, but
Speaker 1: they can make money. And that's big because everybody's not
Speaker 1: going to make it to the NFL. Everybody's not gonna
Speaker 1: make it to MLB, They're not gonna make it to,
Speaker 1: you know, the NBA. Do you tell your clans that
Speaker 1: day one, like, Bro, you might not make it to
Speaker 1: the NFL, Because any rapper I've ever funt with, I'll
Speaker 1: tell them like, you might not make it, Bro. The
Speaker 1: first thing, if you want me to funk with you,
Speaker 1: you need to know that you might not make it. Bro.
Speaker 1: I tell them because at that point I feel like
Speaker 1: they're gonna make it. You might not stay. You might
Speaker 1: not stay. That's what you pretty much because I really
Speaker 1: don't try to go after guys that ain't gonna make it,
Speaker 1: but the guy I feel like, if you don't do
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do, you may not stay. So
Speaker 1: I feel like, as far as for our company, with
Speaker 1: this Neil, we can help guys. And that's powerful because
Speaker 1: now you can make generational wealth at the college level,
Speaker 1: you know, so you don't have to make it too
Speaker 1: because think about t Bow, think about think about what's
Speaker 1: his name, the human Johnny Johnny football. Ye had a
Speaker 1: cold following and ain't make it in the lead. But
Speaker 1: if you can cash in, you know, five ten million
Speaker 1: in college or in high school because now high school
Speaker 1: athletes can get paid. Yeah, when they got started letting
Speaker 1: you only get their money earlier, and that could change that.
Speaker 1: But I think the field that is when they that
Speaker 1: type of money that early, and I want them to
Speaker 1: I want them to cash out, they probably gonna be
Speaker 1: able to stay focused, but get focused on some motion
Speaker 1: ship right then might getting focus on I'm just saying
Speaker 1: a young person. I'm not even saying that. This means
Speaker 1: you go to college, You go to seventeen years old,
Speaker 1: and we all have five million dollars, all four of
Speaker 1: us different five million dollars. Everybody would have a different situation.
Speaker 1: That's why you're here. That's why I think. I think.
Speaker 1: I think if you give the niggas the money early,
Speaker 1: that will prevent them from turning in a mc hammer.
Speaker 1: M hmm. What you like when he was older and
Speaker 1: fucked it up, sucked it all the way up. If
Speaker 1: you if you give them the money early and they
Speaker 1: sunk up a little bit of it while they're still young,
Speaker 1: they have plenty of time to grow into adults and
Speaker 1: to understand and mature with the money and understand what
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do with it. As appolised tug let down,
Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying. What she say, finish
Speaker 1: of the story is if you give a nigga some
Speaker 1: money while he's young, if he foks a little bit
Speaker 1: of it up when you give it to him, then
Speaker 1: he still has to do with that money. If you
Speaker 1: give an old nigger somebody yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah it's black with eighty million. Yeah yeah, come down
Speaker 1: the money management and stuff like that. It goes both way.
Speaker 1: But she says, she's saying, when you you you still
Speaker 1: got a shot because your talent still, I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: feel like you'll do more good than harm. So it's
Speaker 1: you because it's gonna help the help you and your
Speaker 1: family out. You get what I'm saying. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of times I'll be going to recruit players. I see
Speaker 1: players and their mom don't have a dollar to get something.
Speaker 1: That's and that's crazy because you see, you know, their
Speaker 1: son or daughter. Everybody is staying got their jersey on,
Speaker 1: you know, but mom can't get a hot dog. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the players can't get a job because they got to
Speaker 1: be a football practice. Oh yeah, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's all that's changing now. So I think if
Speaker 1: you like a rock and heart, why they just can't
Speaker 1: get a soundary the college college just make billions because
Speaker 1: the thing is they like to control the players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they still just motivated pay them. Nigga. I feel
Speaker 1: like they're paying them in scholarship education, which is get
Speaker 1: your education, but it's some bullshit. It's like I need
Speaker 1: to That's why they started. Let me need to get
Speaker 1: their own money. So by the time I mean school,
Speaker 1: going through the school ship getting money, I might figure
Speaker 1: out something else of business before I even get to
Speaker 1: that that they want to control you. Yeah, so you
Speaker 1: stay here for these two or three four years, make
Speaker 1: us a whole bunch of money. We don't get you
Speaker 1: stay years and then you might go to the league. Right,
Speaker 1: but you know how that can it is what it is,
Speaker 1: so outside of your agency, Like what type of ship
Speaker 1: do you to do in your free time? And do
Speaker 1: you have like a family? You got kids and ship? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually just got married, uh in two thousand and
Speaker 1: twenty September to my longtime longtime girlfriend five years September
Speaker 1: September six. Now I I can feel it now, September six,
Speaker 1: September six. So we end up making an official pandemic
Speaker 1: taught me a lot, you know it really, you know,
Speaker 1: at that time alone in isolation, you know, made you
Speaker 1: made me realize how important family was. You got kids, no,
Speaker 1: not yet, So we planned we want to enjoy a
Speaker 1: year together and then so you know, we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens next year. So what kind of ship do you
Speaker 1: like to do? Honestly? I saw the sports. I'm real
Speaker 1: big into just um self development and just money management.
Speaker 1: So I'm big into real estate, crypto um investing, things
Speaker 1: like that. So I pretty much do what everybody do
Speaker 1: as far as um. You don't like the travel or nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, I worked for Delta for teen years and
Speaker 1: I could fly throwing bags under the plane bag of channel,
Speaker 1: and so I've been able to fly since twenty so
Speaker 1: I'm pretty much flew out from then and then just traveling. Guys, Honestly,
Speaker 1: I just like being at home. I like relaxing and
Speaker 1: bills paid. You got any like any games or anything
Speaker 1: that you like to play, like board games and ship?
Speaker 1: You know what man, I sound real boring. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't play. I like to read books. Man, I'm real.
Speaker 1: If you got a day when you want to just
Speaker 1: get on some bullshit, not extreme bullshit, but if you said, man,
Speaker 1: the day off to be on some bullshit and maybe
Speaker 1: go to the Cheetah and get me oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: still club stuff like that. I mean, yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a kind of stour of that. Ye let him know.
Speaker 1: I was that Stroker's last night a matter of fact.
Speaker 1: So that was cool, and it was it was more
Speaker 1: stunting east Side, yeah, you know, and it was It
Speaker 1: was funny because when I was walking in, uh you know,
Speaker 1: you take your your your idea, get a dude, your
Speaker 1: idea whatever. And he was like, hey, I know you.
Speaker 1: So I think he knows me through my dad or
Speaker 1: do Funky or brand of My brother would always be
Speaker 1: over there. He was like, you have sports age to do, right.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah yeah. He was like oh yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I've seen your your class. Man, um, I want to
Speaker 1: mess with you to take my number, and so I
Speaker 1: put my hands up to get was like, man, you're
Speaker 1: good man. Going in. I was like cool, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everybody mess him up, but he
Speaker 1: was cool man. He sold a lot of love man,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, but yeah, I definitely parted in
Speaker 1: the city, but I grew up in that DJ pretty
Speaker 1: ull take Travis Porter, you know Roscoe Dad. So we
Speaker 1: was at Frequency big all that. So I partied. Man,
Speaker 1: I've done everything I wanted to do. The thing I
Speaker 1: want to do now is at third I said, I
Speaker 1: want to make real money. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got enough experience, I got enough locker room war
Speaker 1: stories to tell everyone, Oh yeah I did all this,
Speaker 1: But now, you know, can I change my family life? Fact?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If I have a son
Speaker 1: and have a daughter, can I change they? Like? Can they?
Speaker 1: Can they call me and say, hey, Pops, I want
Speaker 1: this job. Made that call. That's what I'm focused on
Speaker 1: right now. So party and stuff, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: pre thirty. You know what I'm saying. Cool, now get
Speaker 1: a bad then go party you know what that that's
Speaker 1: what you want to do. But right now we're just
Speaker 1: focusing on, you know, bad talk. You're also a massive
Speaker 1: Big Facts fan too. We salute you for that. Most definitely,
Speaker 1: most definitely what was like two and three your favorite episodes.
Speaker 1: I love the one with a bird Man. You know,
Speaker 1: the Birdman is an underrated genius when it comes to
Speaker 1: that music. You know, I like bird Man. Um, that's funny.
Speaker 1: I like the guy, the pimp guy. Yeah, his what's interesting.
Speaker 1: It was really a lot of people. Yeah. I liked him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was that was that was choosing ship. I got
Speaker 1: chose done. Um. So on the on the business side,
Speaker 1: I like Aristotle stuff too. I like his stuff. So
Speaker 1: yeah I personally no, I don't. I know people got
Speaker 1: work with him, but now I don't know him personally.
Speaker 1: We got to hook that up. Yeah, do that cool
Speaker 1: and shout putting up let he say you upset up here.
Speaker 1: We appreciate you be coming through my brother absolutely check
Speaker 1: out any final words for the people, man some games
Speaker 1: from knowledge and how to get some money, how to
Speaker 1: stay out of bullshit, whatever you want to tell the people. Um.
Speaker 1: If I leave you guys with anything, I think my
Speaker 1: life changed when I became coachable. You know, prior to
Speaker 1: me becoming prior to me being thirty, I always had
Speaker 1: minimal success. But I never had that breakthrough where you know,
Speaker 1: I could get to seven figures. I always was stuck,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying at a certain point. And
Speaker 1: then when I got third, I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: my you know, my New Year's resolution was just to learn,
Speaker 1: you know, not trying to be the smartest guy in
Speaker 1: the room, you know, just find somebody who who know
Speaker 1: more than me and just be coachable. If they say
Speaker 1: do this, do it, you know. And ever since I
Speaker 1: did that, I had a breakthrough. My life has been up.
Speaker 1: You know you're saying financial breakthrough came from just listening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because sometimes we read a book. We read riched that
Speaker 1: for that and then the first thing we do we
Speaker 1: hop on the internet at like we got all figured out.
Speaker 1: We get we get one dollar off a bitcoin, and
Speaker 1: now we Dave Ramsey, you know, we know everybody, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I was one of those guys because I
Speaker 1: read Rich that part that Risch, that part of that
Speaker 1: twenty so I've always been at and I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm sick of that. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be the smart guy. Don't know who's smarter than me,
Speaker 1: and it's showing. And then I went and got next
Speaker 1: to them and I just learned and I soaked it up.
Speaker 1: And then from that I realized everybody who around me
Speaker 1: was successful, was married, you know. So then I said,
Speaker 1: well maybe I need to get married. My girl been
Speaker 1: here for five years, she's been, you know, holding me down.
Speaker 1: I said, let me go get married. And uh And
Speaker 1: it was because when I losing their bitches. Man, this ship, Man,
Speaker 1: that should be fun. You lose your girl, bro, why
Speaker 1: do you think they're losing them? Know? What's that about? No,
Speaker 1: I'm been locking then what I've been locking in thirty years? Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't going Okay, cool cool cool? But yeah, I
Speaker 1: just felt like to you know, having the right one
Speaker 1: significant other, Yeah, that should help take something from you too,
Speaker 1: when you when you got the wrong one. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: when you when you lose that one. Oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: whole Yeah. Man, Why do you think people, I mean,
Speaker 1: why are you thinking? Why you think people they don't
Speaker 1: be working out that pandemic? I think the pandemic pandemic
Speaker 1: a lot of relationships. It's either made a stronger fuck
Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, because you actually got to see who
Speaker 1: this person will all day, all night. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I gotta be locking in with you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta I see flaws that I never would have
Speaker 1: saw you know what's interesting, I realized that most people
Speaker 1: get married for the wrong reason. Wrong reason. I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, you're signing a marriage contract because it's a
Speaker 1: business decision. You get it. So when whoever you married,
Speaker 1: they should be an asset. They should make you better
Speaker 1: because you guys are coming together, combining in wealth, and
Speaker 1: so it's not just you know, love is important, but
Speaker 1: it also has to make sure that this is a
Speaker 1: good business decision. That way, because love and stuff like
Speaker 1: that can be fleeting. It could it's temporary, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you still got to do business.
Speaker 1: What you think is a business decision. You know, it
Speaker 1: depends on your situation. So if you got twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars and then you're marrying somebody who you know down bad,
Speaker 1: you know that might be a bad decision. And and
Speaker 1: I know it sounds you know what I'm saying it
Speaker 1: would you rather have the almost equally yo partner that
Speaker 1: ain't gonna really be loyal to that you're using you
Speaker 1: don't give a funk about you? Are they equally yoke?
Speaker 1: What I'm not saying what I'm saying financially financially, but
Speaker 1: they're on some bullshit or would you rather have this person?
Speaker 1: I look, I don't have nothing willing to learn. Women
Speaker 1: to shut the funk up and follow you, help you
Speaker 1: build empire. And that's a good business de season because
Speaker 1: they're gonna listen, you get what I'm saying. But if
Speaker 1: you got somebody they got bad financial this is then
Speaker 1: that might hurt you. So I just feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: they got to be a business partner and romantic as well. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that it help. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I had twenty million dollars again, whoever, No,
Speaker 1: if I had twenty million dollars and I married somebody
Speaker 1: who didn't have as much money, that means I love
Speaker 1: right right for for them? Yeah, you love them for them? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for them. That's why I shouldn't be But why just
Speaker 1: look at something about them for then? I signed a
Speaker 1: contract for that though, if you love her, just move
Speaker 1: her into your house, take care of for the rest
Speaker 1: of your life. And that's real ship. I signed a country,
Speaker 1: I signed a contract. Yeah, could that be that real ship?
Speaker 1: That real ship? Not like what he said, like the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I can just love you then, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Why we have to put this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if it's now, we're going to do this to day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: saying you just gave them. Yeah, like why should we're married?
Speaker 1: You're gonna ring in everything you don't like it, But
Speaker 1: I'm not putting it. I don't know. I don't really
Speaker 1: I'm not really big on titles and ship like that.
Speaker 1: So I'm told I'm with that. I can give you
Speaker 1: the big ring, call you my wife, but we got
Speaker 1: to do no contract. Basically, how does somebody why is that?
Speaker 1: Why is that? You know what it is? Because because
Speaker 1: I got sisters? What the marriage? What the paper do though?
Speaker 1: Whole wholesome hold of accountable? Now the paper don't do them.
Speaker 1: We got them guarantee if you funk up, she get
Speaker 1: half of the money. Hold you accountable, Washington that money
Speaker 1: and little Now I don't got to add the money
Speaker 1: now I put the money in somebody E's names. Not
Speaker 1: even about the money, like its something's happening. You got
Speaker 1: to make it and you weren't callherent the laws of
Speaker 1: our land. She can't make decisions if you're not married. Well,
Speaker 1: nigga's understanding that. But you got somebody, Yeah, somebody that's
Speaker 1: gonna let Lena say, you put a big old rock
Speaker 1: on the hand. See, but see that ship don't really
Speaker 1: that ship don't matter because some people don't give a
Speaker 1: funk about ship like that about big rocks and ship.
Speaker 1: Like what I'm saying, whatever, whatever that that we do, whatever,
Speaker 1: what this say? We're married without signing that paperwork. I'm
Speaker 1: doing basically like I'm doing everything. I'm taking you out,
Speaker 1: I'm loving you like a wife, I'm treating you like
Speaker 1: a white She gonna ask you, why won't you sign
Speaker 1: the paperwork for? What is that about? I'm just saying
Speaker 1: that I get what he said, already have signed the
Speaker 1: mother year. Yes. What I'm saying is if I would
Speaker 1: have thought about this, like in the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what are we doing this fun? That's what that's the episode. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a whole episode. Why isn't now why did I
Speaker 1: sign that contract? Yeah? Every time I've signed technical, Every
Speaker 1: time I've signed a contract, I received signing. It's technical
Speaker 1: for you, all that all that, all that ceremony, ship
Speaker 1: and all that ships. Every time we signed a contract,
Speaker 1: they send a wire. Yeah. So when I signed the
Speaker 1: country got a life Parker on paper. I got her
Speaker 1: going on weather right, I'm saying, what that paper? Why
Speaker 1: a motherfucker gotta stand up here the State of Georgia
Speaker 1: have to tell me I'm married forever. If I'm saying
Speaker 1: this ship forever, I don't get that. Why I take
Speaker 1: a judge or preacher staying tell me that I'm married
Speaker 1: this woman forever when I'm already sided up for it.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. But I want to understand it when
Speaker 1: you when you get made this ship up, playing playing
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, when you're a Nigger and you fucking get
Speaker 1: ready to fucking like do some like funk ship bullshit,
Speaker 1: that paper makes you think twice not really not given,
Speaker 1: Jeff bezout. At the end of the day, I love
Speaker 1: you enough, but you're gonna having this sheet anyway. That's
Speaker 1: just how I go. It ain't your bazo and all
Speaker 1: them to give a funk about getting their wife. I
Speaker 1: did love you enough for you to have half of this.
Speaker 1: Take that. I don't care. Go ahead, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you've been that since the go ahead? So why
Speaker 1: why do why do people feel like it's going back
Speaker 1: to losing your wife or your girl, or whatever the
Speaker 1: case is you want say. But I just gotta throw
Speaker 1: this out there. I lost my wife. I lost everything.
Speaker 1: They put everything with that. No, they had everything, doing
Speaker 1: everything for them. Melt When you lost everything, you lost
Speaker 1: your meltal in your heart. Okay. Yeah, So with that
Speaker 1: being said that we will revisit this sign the paperwork
Speaker 1: for what? Why not you're gonna sign a record cont
Speaker 1: I ain't no bett and he just gonna sign record
Speaker 1: contracts at all. I'm not saying. I'm not taking it
Speaker 1: away from what I got going on. Bro. I love
Speaker 1: my wife uncle. Yes, And in the paperwork, don't mean
Speaker 1: I don't even know where it said. I ain't seen
Speaker 1: it almost since I feel you. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: she got it. Why the fun is that come out?
Speaker 1: It's in a safe, It's a contract, That's what it is.
Speaker 1: You combine it well, but who's who's the Motherfucker's gotta
Speaker 1: tell me the mother That was the same people that
Speaker 1: tell you how fast you can drive, how slowly you
Speaker 1: can drive, stop at the red like it's day. We
Speaker 1: get that part. I feel you on that ship. I
Speaker 1: feel you. But loan is God, no loans men God
Speaker 1: say this, mel But I think marriages are more for like,
Speaker 1: so good sign the female validation of because marriage their sisters,
Speaker 1: family members, auntie, his cousins, daddy's everybody. Like then they
Speaker 1: can't put a ring on the chat like y'all, don't
Speaker 1: marry y'all. Like you gotta look at it like back
Speaker 1: in the day, like marriage was a common practice of
Speaker 1: the institution of love and finances. Man, ship, they're just
Speaker 1: making some ship to make a nigga, say heimpo to
Speaker 1: have a one bitch man at the end of the day. Alright,
Speaker 1: marriage is supposed to magazine. We can marry. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, man, they said some they throwed on
Speaker 1: in the game. Bro, nigga is supposed to be kings.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be kings. Man. That's why it ain't enough.
Speaker 1: That's why it's a shortage on niggas. Listen because it
Speaker 1: because it's say list hold what you're say. Basically, you
Speaker 1: study history. Back in the day, all the rich people,
Speaker 1: so all the Floyd Mayweathers, they could get a hundred
Speaker 1: thousands of girls. The problem with that is most people
Speaker 1: was poor, so they would leave countries and go to
Speaker 1: other countries where they could get women, and so that
Speaker 1: would make those countries weak because they didn't have no
Speaker 1: soldiers and stuff like that. So that's why they make
Speaker 1: it so that one man, one girl, because if you know,
Speaker 1: the richest dude got a hunted girls. You know, now
Speaker 1: these dudes sit around here like man, I'm going to
Speaker 1: d R you know, and that change power makes sense? Yeah,
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