1
00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,440
Speaker 1: Big Bag and DJ Scream bring you Big Facts, hottest

2
00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,640
Speaker 1: podcast in the streets. Visit the new website today www

3
00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,040
Speaker 1: dot Big Facts pod dot com live for first class sounds.

4
00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,240
Speaker 1: You know who it is, DJ Screen, Big Baker, Ship,

5
00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,000
Speaker 1: Baby Jade. This here's time for another episode of Big

6
00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,279
Speaker 1: Facts and today when we'll be having a conversation. You know,

7
00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,280
Speaker 1: we have conversations, you know with hustlers from all different

8
00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,360
Speaker 1: walks of life. If you're a hustler, we respect that.

9
00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,440
Speaker 1: The day we are very very very very happy to

10
00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,920
Speaker 1: have and David, CEO and founder of check Makes Sports

11
00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,360
Speaker 1: in the building. And he is also the son of

12
00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,879
Speaker 1: the legendary Big Duke from Boys in the Hood. Right, Yes,

13
00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,960
Speaker 1: I said, I'm his first born man. Yeah, when you started,

14
00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,040
Speaker 1: when you started to come. So we launched Checkmate Sports

15
00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,760
Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. Got into the industry about two

16
00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,240
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, working with other agents, interning, trying to you know,

17
00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,720
Speaker 1: find my way in and then eventually learned the game.

18
00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,120
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead

19
00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,000
Speaker 1: and start Chetmate. So we launched in two thousand nine.

20
00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,960
Speaker 1: Team have been up and running ever since. And what

21
00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,160
Speaker 1: made you decide to go that route because the average

22
00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,200
Speaker 1: so that the average, the average young black man wants

23
00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,040
Speaker 1: to play sports a rap. Let's just keep it, you

24
00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So what made you decide, man,

25
00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,720
Speaker 1: I want to go be an Asian and help it's

26
00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,720
Speaker 1: not their money up kind of got him along the

27
00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,440
Speaker 1: right path and all that ship. Man, that's a good question. Honestly,

28
00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,880
Speaker 1: seeing my dad in the music industry, you know he

29
00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,119
Speaker 1: started out with Suave House, Social Death and all that,

30
00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,840
Speaker 1: and just seeing him basically he was giving me the

31
00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,520
Speaker 1: game at such a young age, like, man, this music

32
00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,280
Speaker 1: industry ain't what you think it is. And so instead

33
00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,000
Speaker 1: of it turned me on and trying to get into

34
00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,280
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, pops, well you did this.

35
00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,000
Speaker 1: You know you're giving me the game. I'm gonna go

36
00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,840
Speaker 1: ahead and I'm gonna go this way. So I used

37
00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,319
Speaker 1: to tell you some of the bullshit they're going on

38
00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,160
Speaker 1: in there from day one, like what some of the things,

39
00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:45,080
Speaker 1: what some of the some stuff I ain't even say that,

40
00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,520
Speaker 1: but it's some stuff. You know, that a lot of

41
00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,760
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going, you know, casting couches and

42
00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,280
Speaker 1: craziest type of stuff to get into the industry. And

43
00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,880
Speaker 1: it was something that I wasn't, you know, just morally

44
00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,240
Speaker 1: just it just it wasn't aligned with that. So I said,

45
00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,880
Speaker 1: you know what, Um, either I was gonna try to

46
00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,000
Speaker 1: be a producer, a DJ or something like that, but

47
00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,320
Speaker 1: I just didn't have the skill set for But I

48
00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,360
Speaker 1: played ball. I was a quarterback, was really good at that.

49
00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,920
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, this my lane. So I've

50
00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,519
Speaker 1: been rocking with that ever since. Yeah, that's how I go.

51
00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,440
Speaker 1: You ain't forcing, you ain't trying to force something that

52
00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,880
Speaker 1: you ain't feel, right, I mean, at least you got

53
00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,160
Speaker 1: something to you. So right now, I got about five.

54
00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,800
Speaker 1: We got two guys that went into the league. Travis

55
00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Read from South Alabama, we got him to the Colts

56
00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,560
Speaker 1: and Christian Angelo from Hempton University. He ended up going

57
00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,680
Speaker 1: to the New York Giants. And now the cool thing

58
00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,520
Speaker 1: about that is we did that in the heart of

59
00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,240
Speaker 1: the pandemic. So we launched check Make Sports in two

60
00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,400
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, and it was crazy because our first draft

61
00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,200
Speaker 1: class ended up going into the draft in two thousand twenty.

62
00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,679
Speaker 1: But we all know what happened in two thousand and

63
00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,880
Speaker 1: twenty with COVID. So our first year we're coming out

64
00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,560
Speaker 1: the gate trying to make a name for ourselves. We

65
00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,639
Speaker 1: put about kids, these guys training and then comes for

66
00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, when it gets ready for them to go

67
00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,640
Speaker 1: to Pro Day in March two thousand and twenty, they

68
00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,639
Speaker 1: shut everything down. So when you put the twenty or

69
00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,240
Speaker 1: thirty thousand into their training and you know what I'm saying,

70
00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,640
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, how do you guarantee that you

71
00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:16,880
Speaker 1: recoup There's no guarantee. That's Gere breaking artists, You're breaking athletes.

72
00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,160
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. That's that's the crazy part about it.

73
00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,799
Speaker 1: How hard it ben Ship like, man, It's it's it's

74
00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,120
Speaker 1: difficult anything I think, in any in any industry when

75
00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,960
Speaker 1: you're black, especially when going into the industries where we're

76
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,799
Speaker 1: not known. You know, like if you start the record

77
00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,919
Speaker 1: label's cool, you know what I'm saying, We don't see

78
00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,760
Speaker 1: bird Man. We see people who did it. But when

79
00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,960
Speaker 1: you get into the sports world and that good old

80
00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,680
Speaker 1: boy network, it's a little difficult. Um. And that's why

81
00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,040
Speaker 1: I had to launch Chat Make Sports because I was

82
00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,680
Speaker 1: interning for other agents trying to get in, but they

83
00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,360
Speaker 1: were always little brother me, you know what I'm saying.

84
00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,040
Speaker 1: They would just made me do a little you know

85
00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,760
Speaker 1: bs word microsoftic sales stuff like that. So I said,

86
00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,640
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna stand my bread up.

87
00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,480
Speaker 1: And then you know, we took off with chetmate for sure.

88
00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,880
Speaker 1: What's your stuff? Your stuff, your whole stuff? Black that. Yeah,

89
00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,240
Speaker 1: I used to have the expanding guy, but he ended

90
00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,280
Speaker 1: up started his little agency and stuff like that. We

91
00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,560
Speaker 1: put them on, but right now it is all black on. OK.

92
00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,120
Speaker 1: So what's your how you well, what is your approach

93
00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,280
Speaker 1: to keep athletes like on the proper path to get

94
00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,719
Speaker 1: to that level of that draft because keeping the real

95
00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,400
Speaker 1: we don't have athletes say that, keep it real like

96
00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,120
Speaker 1: I smoked lane or do this or do that? You

97
00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you obviously know now this

98
00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,240
Speaker 1: is your investment. You don't put money into him. It's

99
00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,919
Speaker 1: a little different than the wrapper. Keep it healthy. Yeah,

100
00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, what's some of the

101
00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,560
Speaker 1: ship you do to keep them negging straight in? Now? Right?

102
00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,120
Speaker 1: Another thing that could suck these athletes up to the women.

103
00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,240
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. Someone can have vices with women,

104
00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,760
Speaker 1: be going to crazy, they on practice day focus. You

105
00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:42,919
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying That that that can suck it up.

106
00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,800
Speaker 1: So how you keep them how you keeping focus on

107
00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,039
Speaker 1: outside looking in. When you're a fan or when you

108
00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,560
Speaker 1: just watch the game as a novice, you know you

109
00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,239
Speaker 1: wonder why certain players stay in the lead longer than others.

110
00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,200
Speaker 1: And then when you start to get in an agent

111
00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,600
Speaker 1: or in the industry where you're investing in these players,

112
00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,240
Speaker 1: you start to respect guys like Lyric Fish, jerr Than

113
00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and guys who got the talent and stay

114
00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,080
Speaker 1: out of trouble. But to be honest, most of these guys,

115
00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,960
Speaker 1: man there, it's it's they got the egos, a lot

116
00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,080
Speaker 1: of them with divas and stuff like that. But that's

117
00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,800
Speaker 1: why they need the diva's. Man. Man, I had a

118
00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,640
Speaker 1: guy I got him to the league and I ain't

119
00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,440
Speaker 1: gonna say his name, but it was crazy because I

120
00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,279
Speaker 1: got him to the league after all the pandemic stuff.

121
00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,560
Speaker 1: It was crazy. He got to be one of the

122
00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:32,200
Speaker 1: two people. But you know, so't gonna but he get

123
00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,080
Speaker 1: him to the league, right. He called me four am.

124
00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,760
Speaker 1: I think he got arrested. Something crazy to happened. I

125
00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,840
Speaker 1: picked up the point, like what's going on? I feel

126
00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,840
Speaker 1: like jarryguis somebout here goes He's like, man, I want

127
00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,880
Speaker 1: to come home. I said, but what what happened? He's

128
00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,880
Speaker 1: just like man um. I walked into in the in

129
00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,360
Speaker 1: the in the team room and I seen the depth

130
00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,800
Speaker 1: chart and I was like, okay, what happened? Man? They

131
00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,760
Speaker 1: had me last on it on the depth chart. I said, Okay,

132
00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,200
Speaker 1: then what happened? Nothing, that's it. I'm last. I'm like,

133
00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,720
Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna play. You was un undrafted. You

134
00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,919
Speaker 1: be happy there, you know what I'm saying there? And

135
00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,880
Speaker 1: so we had it was like five am. Had to

136
00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,000
Speaker 1: call his mom's dad. We're sitting on the phone. We're

137
00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,640
Speaker 1: just having a whole little uh were trying to keep

138
00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,960
Speaker 1: him from jumping off the cliff. So that right there

139
00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,719
Speaker 1: was my first little thing, like, man, these guys that

140
00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,680
Speaker 1: that mentally their egos and stuff like that, Like they

141
00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,760
Speaker 1: need a team around him because it's a lot of

142
00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,960
Speaker 1: pressure on them. You know, they all get hit in

143
00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,560
Speaker 1: the head. You know, that's just a part of the football.

144
00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,400
Speaker 1: What the kind of question with that? I think he's

145
00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,200
Speaker 1: talking about the CTV and yeah, you think that was

146
00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,920
Speaker 1: not that had anything to do with it. Now, I mean,

147
00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,240
Speaker 1: he was a rookie, so he ain't been in the

148
00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,359
Speaker 1: league that long. But it's just the you know, the

149
00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:51,839
Speaker 1: nerves and stuff like that. That's all everybody getting hit

150
00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,360
Speaker 1: in the motherfucking right. Hey, so what kind of D

151
00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,160
Speaker 1: What kind of D should ship? Man you believe it

152
00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,479
Speaker 1: or not, man um. A lot of times the athletes

153
00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,320
Speaker 1: get a bad, bad rap, but it's the people around them.

154
00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,560
Speaker 1: You know. When you get into the industry, you start

155
00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,400
Speaker 1: realizing that it would be the handlers, the middleman, the mom,

156
00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,880
Speaker 1: the dad, the cousins, who more Hollywood than the actual athlete.

157
00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,960
Speaker 1: You know. So that's the stuff that you have to

158
00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,400
Speaker 1: deal with as an agent. You know, if you're trying

159
00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,200
Speaker 1: to talk to a player, they may be locked in

160
00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,480
Speaker 1: on football, they locked in on basketball or whatever. But

161
00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,400
Speaker 1: then you have to go out here, say, okay, talk

162
00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,560
Speaker 1: to my uncle, talk to my dad talking about you know,

163
00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,280
Speaker 1: so now you gotta go talk to the dad who

164
00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,000
Speaker 1: talking to three other agents, you know, who may promise

165
00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,440
Speaker 1: them a job, promise them you know x amount. So

166
00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,440
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stuff similar to the music industry.

167
00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,840
Speaker 1: It's that it's the same thing. It's just instead of

168
00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,600
Speaker 1: they rapping, they throwing the football catching it. It's funny,

169
00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,080
Speaker 1: it's one of these guys I was recruiting and I

170
00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,160
Speaker 1: actually drove up to his house. You know, I went

171
00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,760
Speaker 1: in and I went into the house. Uh, buddy, put

172
00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,640
Speaker 1: me onto him. I walked in the house. They had

173
00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,600
Speaker 1: twenty tho dollars and once on the table. So I'm

174
00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,840
Speaker 1: looking around. I'm thinking like, okay, this is set up,

175
00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,920
Speaker 1: like what's going on? Come to find out his dad

176
00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,080
Speaker 1: owned a I can't say what it because the people

177
00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,160
Speaker 1: are linking, but he owns a business where he needs

178
00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,880
Speaker 1: a lot of ones, you get it. So they he

179
00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,120
Speaker 1: there cash, you know, counting money on the table stuff

180
00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,200
Speaker 1: like that. So I'm like, okay, I ain't gonna say,

181
00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,760
Speaker 1: but I'm just I look. I'm like, okay, you know

182
00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,240
Speaker 1: that's what's up. You know what I'm saying, Like, I

183
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,760
Speaker 1: see what already with this conversation, go ahead. So I

184
00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,080
Speaker 1: do my little pitch, you know, and then at the

185
00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,520
Speaker 1: end they're looking at me. They're like, okay, so you know,

186
00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,480
Speaker 1: if I feel it, like what's up? What y'all got

187
00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,400
Speaker 1: to say? Let's let's say it. And it was like,

188
00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,000
Speaker 1: you know what, you're gonna gonna put some money up aside.

189
00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, so I sit back in the chair like,

190
00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,600
Speaker 1: oh man, it's gonna be one of these conversations. So, yeah,

191
00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,679
Speaker 1: I was making some money. I mean, that's cool, but

192
00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,640
Speaker 1: I just has to make let me say that's cool,

193
00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,040
Speaker 1: it's that's I understand that that's part of the game.

194
00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,600
Speaker 1: But a lot of times people, you know, be throwing

195
00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,320
Speaker 1: out astronomical numbers. So what solo? Let me let me

196
00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,160
Speaker 1: see this. So what an agent job to do? When

197
00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,360
Speaker 1: I come to you? How am I selling myself to you?

198
00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,959
Speaker 1: Like if you come if I was if I was

199
00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,640
Speaker 1: a prospect right now, what would you come tell me

200
00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,880
Speaker 1: and my family if he was a First of all,

201
00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,839
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that you're gonna be the

202
00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,680
Speaker 1: focal point of our you know agency. A lot of

203
00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,200
Speaker 1: times players go to the agencies that have a hundred clients.

204
00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,640
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, I'm already that, I'm already that, I'm

205
00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,200
Speaker 1: already him. I'm already that nigga. What you're gonna tell

206
00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,480
Speaker 1: me to make me basically, what I'm gonna do is

207
00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,240
Speaker 1: just show them that we're gonna work for him, fight

208
00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,080
Speaker 1: for him, and have their best interest at heart. You know,

209
00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,160
Speaker 1: we took two guys that were under the radar and

210
00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,240
Speaker 1: that was unranked, you know, Travis and Christian from HBCUs

211
00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,000
Speaker 1: so imagine what we can do for a player like

212
00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,319
Speaker 1: you from Georgia, Alabama, USC things like that. So we're

213
00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,840
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that what I'm saying, I get what

214
00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,040
Speaker 1: you're saying. I'm saying is I'm already that nigga coming

215
00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,800
Speaker 1: out of high school. I know I'm gonna be the

216
00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,640
Speaker 1: ship's But you're trying to sign me. What are you

217
00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,120
Speaker 1: telling me? You're telling me some ship that I'm already

218
00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,640
Speaker 1: that's already gonna happen. And he's probably hearing it. Let's

219
00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,360
Speaker 1: just keep it real. He probably hearing it. Even though

220
00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,520
Speaker 1: you're the black agent. He at his heart he want

221
00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,960
Speaker 1: to funk with you, But here hearing it from the

222
00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,920
Speaker 1: white agency. Like what you're gonna say special? You know

223
00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,559
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, at the end of the day,

224
00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,120
Speaker 1: it ain't something special to say. It's just building that relationship.

225
00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,160
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna say the same thing. But who you wrought

226
00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,040
Speaker 1: with you know who's gonna be there. Yeah, that's that's

227
00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,720
Speaker 1: what it is. At the end of the day. We

228
00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,560
Speaker 1: all got the same money, We're all gonna pay for

229
00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,679
Speaker 1: the same training, we all passed the same example. We

230
00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,120
Speaker 1: all can do negotiate the same contracts. It's just who

231
00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,280
Speaker 1: do you like, who do you relate with? Some ball

232
00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:19,920
Speaker 1: here telling me he couldn't get me got dam two

233
00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,600
Speaker 1: or three on a thousand and he already got god damn.

234
00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,600
Speaker 1: They can't do that though, Yeah, what you mean they

235
00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,000
Speaker 1: can't do that? But it is Yeah, so what you mean, Oh,

236
00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,560
Speaker 1: so when they ask you for money, that's illegal. That's

237
00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,600
Speaker 1: why I'd be like, you know, we gotta sit back

238
00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,840
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I mean, it's illegal. But

239
00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:42,880
Speaker 1: then there's ways that people maneuver around you. Go ahead, Ja,

240
00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,559
Speaker 1: ask your question, Jake, go ahead, go ahead about that.

241
00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,079
Speaker 1: I already asked answer that. I guess. It's like it's

242
00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,960
Speaker 1: not not doing that. It's like it's like choosing a lawyer,

243
00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,720
Speaker 1: Like it's the lawyer that you trust or the manager

244
00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. So it's just a nigga to go represent

245
00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,120
Speaker 1: you like a man. That's what the sports they put

246
00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,880
Speaker 1: a little bit into you because they got to get

247
00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,640
Speaker 1: you training ship. What about the niggas, like we know

248
00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,240
Speaker 1: how you see the nigg in the hood like funk

249
00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,320
Speaker 1: with all the athlete coming up and make sure they

250
00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,600
Speaker 1: go to the middle man. Oh, they didn't need to

251
00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,200
Speaker 1: bring it to the age they get paid. They like

252
00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,880
Speaker 1: the A and R. So they're gonna find the town.

253
00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,079
Speaker 1: Then they go take it to the aging, they go

254
00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,080
Speaker 1: take it to whoever. Yeah, so they get paid to

255
00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, on the back end, finders figure

256
00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,720
Speaker 1: or some right on the back if that player blows.

257
00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,080
Speaker 1: But I heard say the percentage with the agent, like

258
00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,720
Speaker 1: I think it's like fou pucent, they give you a

259
00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,000
Speaker 1: five percent. A lot of that stuff is is really

260
00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:46,040
Speaker 1: they're not supposed to be doing that. So if I've

261
00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,920
Speaker 1: been taking to take care of you because you can't

262
00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,440
Speaker 1: do it as age saying that, yeah, a lot of

263
00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,440
Speaker 1: that stuff that they're doing is is under the table.

264
00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,240
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. But it ain't supposed to

265
00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,480
Speaker 1: be like that. So this is the out the thing

266
00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,640
Speaker 1: that they've been saying about college athletes. Right that's why

267
00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,079
Speaker 1: that this passed and right now they can get some

268
00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,560
Speaker 1: before that is one of the nes to starve. And

269
00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,599
Speaker 1: that's where everybody has been kind of protesting the n

270
00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,360
Speaker 1: C Double A and all that ship because it's like

271
00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,760
Speaker 1: you can't do nothing, you can't do that, you can

272
00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,640
Speaker 1: get no money here. All you can do is play

273
00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,120
Speaker 1: football and go to go to class don't make sense

274
00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,320
Speaker 1: because a lot of these niggas coming from nothing and

275
00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,280
Speaker 1: their family at home fucked up, and you're telling me

276
00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,080
Speaker 1: I can't get no money. So why you know they're

277
00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,400
Speaker 1: gonna do something legal ships? Exactly? I got to gotta

278
00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,400
Speaker 1: take some type of risk. I don't want this, ain't guarantee.

279
00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,400
Speaker 1: Is the one thing about that one thing and go wrong?

280
00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,120
Speaker 1: You take one hit, you know what I'm saying. And

281
00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,160
Speaker 1: the crazy part is the universities, the coaches, everybody else

282
00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,560
Speaker 1: making millions of dollars, but the players and athletes they not.

283
00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,720
Speaker 1: They always getting short. What's like marketing for for like?

284
00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,560
Speaker 1: So that the best way I can explain it is

285
00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,600
Speaker 1: I feel like athletes are now the new influences. So

286
00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,559
Speaker 1: you know how you got Jake Paul and these guys

287
00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,160
Speaker 1: making money and dollars, but now they're trying to get

288
00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,760
Speaker 1: into boxing. But now you've got guys like you know,

289
00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,000
Speaker 1: just think of Reggie Bush when he was coming out. Say,

290
00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,440
Speaker 1: when these guys were megastars, but they wasn't able to

291
00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,560
Speaker 1: capitalize off of it. But now if you've got four

292
00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,040
Speaker 1: or five million followers, you can hook up with a

293
00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,760
Speaker 1: UH supplement company. You can hook up with up and

294
00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,880
Speaker 1: coming Nike or something like that, and promoted to your brand,

295
00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,160
Speaker 1: you know, to your social media, and now you get paid.

296
00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,000
Speaker 1: And that's gonna change the landscape for ages because now

297
00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,240
Speaker 1: if you were a big firm and you just say hey,

298
00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,319
Speaker 1: so and so, I'm gonna throw you a hundred thousand

299
00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,800
Speaker 1: dollars if you're a freshman, been making you know, to

300
00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,240
Speaker 1: three million a year, a hundred thousands on men, you know,

301
00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,319
Speaker 1: So now it's not it's no longer about who got

302
00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,559
Speaker 1: the bigger bag. It's really about the right thing. Who

303
00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,600
Speaker 1: do you relate to, who do you trust, and who

304
00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,640
Speaker 1: do you feel you know got your best interests. So

305
00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,920
Speaker 1: that's why, you know, I'm really excited and I'm mos

306
00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,480
Speaker 1: focused now on the college athletes because it gives you

307
00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,800
Speaker 1: a step ahead because a lot of these agents don't

308
00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,719
Speaker 1: know who the best players are. They just wait to

309
00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,920
Speaker 1: see who ESPN say, oh he's a number one player,

310
00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,560
Speaker 1: and then they go throw backs. They got the mud.

311
00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,839
Speaker 1: They don't know, They don't know the real talent to

312
00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,800
Speaker 1: everybody else knowing. So for ages like me and people

313
00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,840
Speaker 1: who really know the game, you know, you be knowing

314
00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,200
Speaker 1: these guys night tim grade years, you know, build that

315
00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,720
Speaker 1: relationship with them, and then when they become superstars, you

316
00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,360
Speaker 1: already got you already locked there, you already got So

317
00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,600
Speaker 1: what's your what's what you do is something that happens.

318
00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,200
Speaker 1: So sometimes a rapper might be signed to a CEO

319
00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,960
Speaker 1: one to three records or whatever the case is, right,

320
00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,200
Speaker 1: and then I don't know, the eyes might get big

321
00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,400
Speaker 1: and somebody might get in the end and they'll be like, man,

322
00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to be with you no more. I

323
00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,800
Speaker 1: want to be with them. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

324
00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,160
Speaker 1: crazy at the top of the Bailly on top. That's

325
00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:54,960
Speaker 1: how I'm doing on the commercial. So how how would

326
00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,680
Speaker 1: you deal with an athlete that you went and got

327
00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:58,680
Speaker 1: out the mud, put the money into them, training them

328
00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,600
Speaker 1: all that ship, and somebody got his and be like, bro,

329
00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to be with you no more. I

330
00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,560
Speaker 1: want to go be with the mother folks. I think

331
00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,160
Speaker 1: the first thing you gotta do is you can't take

332
00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,920
Speaker 1: it personal because that's just part of the business and

333
00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,360
Speaker 1: you treated just like a relationship with your significant other.

334
00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:12,560
Speaker 1: It's always gonna be somebody trying to get at them.

335
00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,680
Speaker 1: But if you're doing your job, doing right by all

336
00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,520
Speaker 1: you can do is just trust and hope that you

337
00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,920
Speaker 1: know the right thing. But do people get in their

338
00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,320
Speaker 1: ear most definitely. But that's why you gotta have certain

339
00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,480
Speaker 1: things in place where if I put X amount of

340
00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,760
Speaker 1: dollars in you and you go somewhere else, I need

341
00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,760
Speaker 1: to get that back. So that's how it go. Okay.

342
00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,800
Speaker 1: So what's some of the other ship that that you

343
00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,360
Speaker 1: thought about getting into other than sports or some other

344
00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920
Speaker 1: business or some other ship you've got going on? Man.

345
00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,160
Speaker 1: So the cool thing about what I did was it

346
00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,040
Speaker 1: was so hard for me to get into the industry.

347
00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,080
Speaker 1: And I noticed, you know, it was difficult, and I

348
00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,080
Speaker 1: thought it was like just being a black guy into

349
00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,360
Speaker 1: into the industry. I said, man, it's you know, the

350
00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,840
Speaker 1: good old boy network. But come to find out, it

351
00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,840
Speaker 1: was a lot of ages that looked like me that

352
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,960
Speaker 1: wasn't helping me out get into it. Those were the guys.

353
00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the Caucasian people. Now it's not a cover,

354
00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,760
Speaker 1: it's an outside thing. Is the people on the inside.

355
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,640
Speaker 1: They like being on the inside. They don't want to

356
00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,040
Speaker 1: keep you, they don't want to keep us in there.

357
00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,600
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, and the cool, you know,

358
00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,280
Speaker 1: crazy thing is my um my principal from high school.

359
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,240
Speaker 1: He was actually an agent. You know. I've reached out

360
00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,200
Speaker 1: to him a couple of times, try to intern with them.

361
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,520
Speaker 1: Never gave me an opportunity, So I kind of took

362
00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,400
Speaker 1: that to heart. I was like, well, you know what,

363
00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,200
Speaker 1: when I had my breakthrough, I'm gonna do something where

364
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,960
Speaker 1: we can help people not just like me, just people

365
00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,960
Speaker 1: just want to get in have an opportunity. So what

366
00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,000
Speaker 1: we did was we actually launched the check Make Sports

367
00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,360
Speaker 1: Agent master Class in janeweary and since Jane, where we've

368
00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,200
Speaker 1: helped over seventy people, you know, become sports agents. And

369
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,120
Speaker 1: the cool thing about it is they do it without

370
00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,120
Speaker 1: having to go to law school, so you don't have to.

371
00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,520
Speaker 1: Is your your classes able to certify them to do

372
00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,680
Speaker 1: what they need to do, and then you can certify

373
00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,640
Speaker 1: an they can go through your ship and become a

374
00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,560
Speaker 1: license actual credentials. Yeah. Cool think about it is because

375
00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,680
Speaker 1: I actually heard about hill Um last year during the summertime.

376
00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,560
Speaker 1: Another agent I was talking to. He was like, man,

377
00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, Neil's gonna come out. I think that's gonna

378
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,240
Speaker 1: change the game. And I'm always one of those people

379
00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,400
Speaker 1: who try to see, you know, stuff before it happens.

380
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,679
Speaker 1: So I ended up doing my research and I said, man,

381
00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,600
Speaker 1: this is this is a game changing. We don't have

382
00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,120
Speaker 1: to invest in these you know, these athletes, no more

383
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,359
Speaker 1: going to the league. We can get them in freshman

384
00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,840
Speaker 1: sophomore year for for nothing, just building that relationship and

385
00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,640
Speaker 1: then do right by me and and then ride that way.

386
00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,639
Speaker 1: So I ended up writing the book The n I

387
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,520
Speaker 1: L Goal rushed back in November, and then we launched

388
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,800
Speaker 1: the company, um, the program in janewear, and since then,

389
00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:40,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been amazing. So holding up man, Yeah, man,

390
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:48,640
Speaker 1: I hope you see to push forward man, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

391
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,320
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy because, um, I've noticed that

392
00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,600
Speaker 1: a lot of these other agents, you know, the big

393
00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,000
Speaker 1: time agents that we all hear about, it's not because

394
00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,960
Speaker 1: they were you know, some smart guys something something like that.

395
00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,439
Speaker 1: It's just somebody it out for him, you know, somebody

396
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,240
Speaker 1: brought him in. And I noticed a lot of people

397
00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,679
Speaker 1: in other communities they were bringing me Oh you're sawing, nephew,

398
00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,640
Speaker 1: come on, you know what I'm saying. But for us,

399
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yo, you look like me. Listen. That

400
00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,280
Speaker 1: was like it kind of pushed you away because they

401
00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 1: liked being the only one in there. So I was like, okay, well,

402
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,159
Speaker 1: you know we're gonna flip the script, and that's what

403
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,560
Speaker 1: we've been doing. So let me ask you this. So

404
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,560
Speaker 1: when you were in high school, did you is this

405
00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,280
Speaker 1: something that you wanted to do or is this something

406
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,199
Speaker 1: that you just kind of like figured would be the

407
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,520
Speaker 1: best way for you to kind of get out of

408
00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 1: what you were doing. Are you interested in sports and ship? Yeah,

409
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,480
Speaker 1: of course I played. I played football. It's a high

410
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,520
Speaker 1: school quarterback. So I wouldn't to go to the league,

411
00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200
Speaker 1: of course, like everybody. And then I came out. I

412
00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,840
Speaker 1: came out with Cam Newton and Russell Wilson, and I

413
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:56,200
Speaker 1: was because Cam Newton six five, maybe this ain't gonna work.

414
00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 1: So I had to pivot. And I was like, it

415
00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 1: was either between being a coach and being and an agent.

416
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 1: And then I just like the lifestyle. I liked the

417
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 1: control of my income of an agent, and I like

418
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 1: being an advocate in bent to fight for these players.

419
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,720
Speaker 1: So I said, you know what, I'm gonna go to

420
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,159
Speaker 1: agent round and that's what happened. So you had to

421
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,159
Speaker 1: take a class to go to school for the ship. Yes,

422
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,160
Speaker 1: So originally the way that we've all known to become

423
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,640
Speaker 1: an agent, and you either have to go to law

424
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,119
Speaker 1: school or you have to get your masters. So I

425
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,880
Speaker 1: ended up going to Virginia State from my undergrad went

426
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 1: to Georgia State, got my masters, and then took the

427
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 1: certification exam for the NFL and did it that way. Man.

428
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,199
Speaker 1: I actually took the exam in two thou eighteen. Right.

429
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 1: It's sixty questions. Um, it was forty two to pass.

430
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: I got forty seven, right, And that's how the NFL act.

431
00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,640
Speaker 1: Right after we took the exam, they said, you know what,

432
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,360
Speaker 1: too many people passed the exam, so we're gonna move

433
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 1: the score from a forty two to a forty eight.

434
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 1: So I got only seven. Yeah, So I get it

435
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 1: in the mail. I see you made forty seven out

436
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,920
Speaker 1: of yes, I passed. That's good. And then they said,

437
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 1: but we ended up because they said it's a scaled exam.

438
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 1: They said, so on, so many people passed it, so

439
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 1: we moved it to a forty eight. I said, why

440
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 1: so the crazy things? You only could take it once

441
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 1: a year, so I had to wait an entire year

442
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 1: study all over again. Lock in, you know, locking, because

443
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: that test ain't easy. And I ended up passing it

444
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: the following take the example and uh, but the cool

445
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 1: thing is now with the new law that passed, now

446
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that anymore. So you can't

447
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 1: take it without your master. No, well you gotta he

448
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: your regularly exactly, but now you can. Now you don't

449
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 1: have to do that anymore. Now you don't have to

450
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: go to law school. You don't have to have your masters.

451
00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: But the industry don't want you to know that, because

452
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: of course they want to keep making all the money.

453
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 1: So with the new law that passed in July first

454
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 1: that allows student athletes to get paid. Now, all you

455
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: have to do is go through a certification program like

456
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: what we offer, and you can become aging thirty days.

457
00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: So this is something that the Big Facts found was

458
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 1: like our listeners of people would ask some questions like this, right,

459
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: what kind of money? And do an agent make? What

460
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 1: kind of money is really in this ship? So high

461
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 1: end everybody knows rich Paul right, yeah, so last year,

462
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: cording to Force, he made forty five millions and he

463
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: was like number right, number nine. Now Scott Boris is

464
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 1: always ringing number nine agent, Yeah, right, number nine. I

465
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: think it's eight or nine for the top ten highest

466
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 1: paid agents for two thousand and twenty, so in the

467
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 1: calendar year in the pandemic he made forty five million.

468
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: Now Scott Boris is number one. They ranked him. I

469
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 1: think he made soccer players and no baseball. He got

470
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 1: all the baseball players, so he did a hundred and

471
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: sixty million, and then second was the soccer guy. He

472
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: ended up doing like a hundred and ten million. So

473
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: the thing about being an agent, it's a bunch of

474
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: bs to get to the other side. But once you

475
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 1: get in that top ten, it's crazy because you think

476
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: about it. Scott Booris made a hundred and sixty million,

477
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Lebron made eighty, Floyd made like a hundred. Messy made

478
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 1: like a home because he multiple gets ages and making

479
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: more money than the players. So it's, uh, it's a

480
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: lot of money. Yeah. So but I'm saying on the

481
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: ground level, like just getting into it, like the ground levels,

482
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 1: just like anything music, uh, Wall Street, the top twenty

483
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: percent of the ones who making all the money, everybody

484
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 1: else pretty much you can. But I mean when I

485
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: say making all the money, making the millions eight nine figures,

486
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: now you can get in and you can make you know,

487
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand here and there, But you don't become

488
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 1: an agent to make six figures. I made six figures

489
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: before I became an agent. You become an agent to

490
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: make millions, you know, like sick money, you know what

491
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So that's what you're doing. If you're doing

492
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: it for a hundred thousand, you can go do host

493
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,239
Speaker 1: the real estates and stuff like that to get that.

494
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: But for this, this is strictly five, ten, twenty hunter million.

495
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: When you're when you're scouting, like your prospective clients and

496
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:58,959
Speaker 1: stuff like that, Um, what do you do to kind of,

497
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: for lack of a better way to put it, rail

498
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: them in and maintain that relationship all the way up

499
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: until it's time for them to actually get signed. So

500
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 1: when it just depends on how you coming. If you're

501
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: coming in with a bag, if you got you know,

502
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: so so and so behind you put about two or

503
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: three million, you can go in and do pretty much

504
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: what you want to do. But most people coming in

505
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: how I came in with, you know, chromes compared to them,

506
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: You got to find the diamonds in the rough, so

507
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: you got to really know the talent. So that's why

508
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: we went after the guys went after our first year

509
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: because we knew that the bigger agents wasn't gonna be

510
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: on them, So we had to go find those guys,

511
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: build that relationship, and then you know, hopefully it blossom

512
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: into the league in the next level. But I mean,

513
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: like on a personal level, how do you what do

514
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: you do to kind of like keep them under your

515
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: wing so that they don't go with something what I

516
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: think I think, or keep them loyal to you. I

517
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: think the best thing to do is just be a professional.

518
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes agents or people who want to get

519
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: into industry, they want to be the friend. They want

520
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: to be the buddy. They got enough friends, they got

521
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: enough buddies. They need somebody that they can trust when

522
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: ship hit the fan. They want to make sure that, Okay,

523
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: my agent know what he's doing. My agent gonna stand

524
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: on the table for me. He don't protect me. So

525
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: as long as you're being a professional, doing right by them,

526
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: not lying, you know, being upfront with them, I think

527
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: that's the way the best practice. I mean, everybody has

528
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: what works for them, but I think that is the

529
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: best way to maintain that relationship because if you go

530
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: in trying to be a friend. Then your client gonna

531
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: turn into a diva and now they're gonna start calling

532
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: you at you know, making you know, just treating you

533
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: like a servant, you know, and you don't want to

534
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: be that. You wanted to be mutual respect amongst you

535
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: and your clients. So what you do when you see

536
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: that man, Okay, I can see he got a little

537
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: bit of that ship in him. He gonna go straight.

538
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: I don't do it. I don't deal with it. My

539
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: first first couple of years, I dealt with it. You

540
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, just trying to break my name.

541
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: But now that I got my name, I don't deal

542
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: with it because the money ain't it ain't worth it,

543
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: you know. It's just man. The worst thing that having

544
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: no client is a bad client. I tell people that

545
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: all the time, because they're gonna call you, they're gonna

546
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: blow your phone up, and then they're not gonna do

547
00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: the right thing. The worst thing you can do is

548
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: stand on the table for a player, you know, put

549
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: up X amount of dollars, call a team, fight for

550
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: me to get a workout. And then he get there

551
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: and then he got he got an attitude problem, or

552
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 1: he doing the wrong thing, because then what's gonna happen

553
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: now with those teams gonna be like, who who's guys? This?

554
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: That's it guy. So now if I got another guy called,

555
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, I don't know. So that's why

556
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 1: you don't want to attach your name to you know,

557
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: players like that. In the league is different front the

558
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: music industry. You know, the league is real. If you

559
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: don't act right, they're gonna get you up out of there,

560
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I realized that I

561
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: take the same approach they take. They're not going to

562
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: invest in the player million. So why should I invest

563
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: in my player, you know, into a player if they're

564
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: not acting right? But should should? Should athletes be aware

565
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: of the flashy agent because some agents, some agents go

566
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: get a lot of ship jury watches, cars and all

567
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 1: that ship the kind of real them in but they

568
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: really don't be knowing the business. I don't heard that too,

569
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: you know what that that's what everybody say. But I

570
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: had that model do what winners do. And I hate

571
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: to say that, but that's what people like. You know,

572
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: people like that that that flashiness. I don't do it.

573
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm dabbling into it a little bit. But it's just

574
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: not me personally, you know what I'm saying. I just

575
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm more of a substant guy over flash um, just

576
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: because you know, growing up in the music industry on

577
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 1: the inside, I've seen everybody. Everybody thought had money, you

578
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I saw the flag. I grew

579
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: up early ninety, so I saw Atlanta. I'm like, yeah,

580
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: it looked good on TV. And then I'm seeing them

581
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: coming back, you know, sleeping on somebody couch. You know.

582
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: So I don't really care about the flash. I care

583
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: about the substance. But you know, some ages they win

584
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: with that. But I don't think it's gonna last because

585
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: athletes are no longer going to be broke. You know,

586
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: if I come to the table and I've been eating Raymond,

587
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, eating Raymond noodles for the last four years,

588
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: and then somebody dropped a hundred thousand dollars, that's like, whoa, Okay,

589
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: that's cool. But if you know, with this name image

590
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: of lightness, now athletes getting hundred hundred thousand dollars for

591
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: a post, so that's like okay. And a lot of

592
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: these agents who flashy, they cover it up, you know,

593
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: they cover up being corny, they cover up not relating

594
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 1: to their these Yeah, so it's just like that. It's like,

595
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: all right, I can't, I ain't. I ain't got a mouthpiece,

596
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: I can't relate. So you know what, take all this money,

597
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,239
Speaker 1: take all his money. And the bad part about that

598
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: is it's just it's a transaction. It's like if you

599
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: buy your significant other, if you pay for she's gonna

600
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: be she's gonna be out the first time she hit

601
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: the fan. But if you gotta organic relationship, she's gonna

602
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: be there with you. That's why a lot of times

603
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: athletes get out the league or they're get in a

604
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: bad spot and they call the agent. The agent like, dude,

605
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I got ninety other clients. I'm gonna go rot with them.

606
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: You know, I see you later. Because it's a transaction,

607
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I put the money up. You do

608
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: your part. But those agents who went in for the

609
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: right reason, they're gonna be there and they're gonna fight

610
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: for him. What's some value of ship your pops taught you, dude,

611
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: just on some life ship outside of sportsman, to be

612
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: just some life ship, how to how to move around

613
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: out here? Anything? Told me a five minute decision could

614
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: change your life. A five minute decision can change your life.

615
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and you just think about that, from from

616
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: sex to drugs too freaking you know, pulling the trigger.

617
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: You know, anything you can do in five minutes that

618
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: could change a whole outlook on life. So when he

619
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: said that, um, that was that really stuck with me.

620
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff. I remember. I remember when um,

621
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: the R. Kelly stuff came out back in the day

622
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: and I was talking to Pops like Pops, um, I

623
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: don't think he did he rich And I remember I

624
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: was driving down Brown's and me or I was going

625
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: to football. He pulled a call. He looked, he said, hey, man,

626
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: don't you ever say that? Man? And I didn't realized

627
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: that at the time. You get what I'm saying. But

628
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: he was just like, you can never put anything past

629
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: people because of money. And I was just you know,

630
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: and it's stuck with me. And he always a lot

631
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: of stuff that he said back then. It didn't hit

632
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: me until I got older and I just started realizing, like, man,

633
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: he really he really put me up on game and

634
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to Pops and shout out to

635
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: shout out to shout out to my mom. She just

636
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: her cancer went too remission. I'm really I'm really happy

637
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: about that because that came out of nowhere and she

638
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: beat that. So she's shout out to her because that

639
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: was dope to see her. And you're from the east side, Yeah,

640
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Stone Stone Mountain, Ye going to race? Yeah, Yeah, we're

641
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: on the upcome man a lot. You know back that

642
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: they used to be the cat you know now everybody,

643
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: all the motors and shakers coming out of Stone Mine.

644
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: So what's the most iconic song gonna last ten ft

645
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: ten years? Please don't say swag serve? Yeah it is

646
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: we got We got no offense to this wag serving people.

647
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: But that ship be that is the biggest ship crazy

648
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: because that ship like swas surfing is not I don't

649
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: know about to play some wife changing and niggas that

650
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: came from Stone Mountain. I can name thirty niggas that

651
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: came from the West Side that didn't change. Are they

652
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: relevant right now? Talking about everybody? Who are you talking about?

653
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking about plenty of people. We got the Stone

654
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: shout to the whole hotel and all the surrounding yet

655
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: to everybody. But I am curious of who some of

656
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: these Stone Mountains. Okay, I'm curious. I'm just curious. I'm

657
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: not signing. So that's time I checked. Switch Beaks was

658
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: from Stoneman. Is a don't you coman? I'm hey, yeah,

659
00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: Stoneman really one and a half. Okay, yeah, because this

660
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: nigga claims New York. Come on, no, he's not. He

661
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: he got we got got damn sweat, sir, and child

662
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: is gonna be the child got beano who Let's take

663
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: swa out there, y'all. Man, he's from New York. Okay,

664
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: we got we got me easy easy running the city

665
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: right now? Facts that out of me? Yeah, we got

666
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: and um and I'm just thinking about like that's enough. Yeah,

667
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: that's enough. Yeah, that's got mountain, I would read to say.

668
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: And then we got the sports World. We got Mars Shawn.

669
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: We got Drew who plus Mars Shawn Brooks. Oh yeah

670
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, we had Drew end up going to the

671
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: nigga Java. They turned up. You got me reading for industry, yeah,

672
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: oh up, pretty tight? Pretty oh yeah yeah so Stone

673
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, turn off? Yeah, yeah, here for the boys.

674
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: Not about the whole ship started at the eight room

675
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: right there on the More. I always that boy Stone

676
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: Mount scream, I said my whole ship. I didn't say Screen,

677
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: but he running the Fitness World Facts Stone. It sounds

678
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: like east Side. It sounds like if y'all want me

679
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,719
Speaker 1: to start naming all day with the east Side so

680
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: we can go out. But what we're doing, what's next?

681
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: Screen was moving on? So what the future looked like

682
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: for you, man? The future is bright. Um. Honestly, when

683
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: I first got into the industry, I felt like it

684
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: was a race to race to the bottom because if

685
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: you had a bag, you wasn't going to beat these

686
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: big ages. You know what I'm saying. You can go

687
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: in there trying to be cool and all that, but

688
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: it was coming in with a crazy check and money talk.

689
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: But now with this new this new Neil, it changed

690
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: the game. The landscape is it's a it's a blue ocean,

691
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's the wild wild West right now.

692
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: So as far as our company and check Make Sports,

693
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: we're getting into the space of more representing UM athletes,

694
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: professional and student athletes on the marketing side and educating

695
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: people so that they can do it because it's a

696
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: lot of moms, it's a lot of dads who got

697
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: sons and daughters who may not be Reggie Bush, but

698
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: they can make money. And that's big because everybody's not

699
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: going to make it to the NFL. Everybody's not gonna

700
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: make it to MLB, They're not gonna make it to,

701
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: you know, the NBA. Do you tell your clans that

702
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: day one, like, Bro, you might not make it to

703
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: the NFL, Because any rapper I've ever funt with, I'll

704
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: tell them like, you might not make it, Bro. The

705
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: first thing, if you want me to funk with you,

706
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: you need to know that you might not make it. Bro.

707
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: I tell them because at that point I feel like

708
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna make it. You might not stay. You might

709
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: not stay. That's what you pretty much because I really

710
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: don't try to go after guys that ain't gonna make it,

711
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: but the guy I feel like, if you don't do

712
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do, you may not stay. So

713
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: I feel like, as far as for our company, with

714
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: this Neil, we can help guys. And that's powerful because

715
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: now you can make generational wealth at the college level,

716
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, so you don't have to make it too

717
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: because think about t Bow, think about think about what's

718
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: his name, the human Johnny Johnny football. Ye had a

719
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: cold following and ain't make it in the lead. But

720
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: if you can cash in, you know, five ten million

721
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: in college or in high school because now high school

722
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: athletes can get paid. Yeah, when they got started letting

723
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: you only get their money earlier, and that could change that.

724
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: But I think the field that is when they that

725
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: type of money that early, and I want them to

726
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: I want them to cash out, they probably gonna be

727
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: able to stay focused, but get focused on some motion

728
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: ship right then might getting focus on I'm just saying

729
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: a young person. I'm not even saying that. This means

730
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: you go to college, You go to seventeen years old,

731
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: and we all have five million dollars, all four of

732
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,240
Speaker 1: us different five million dollars. Everybody would have a different situation.

733
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: That's why you're here. That's why I think. I think.

734
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: I think if you give the niggas the money early,

735
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: that will prevent them from turning in a mc hammer.

736
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: M hmm. What you like when he was older and

737
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: fucked it up, sucked it all the way up. If

738
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: you if you give them the money early and they

739
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: sunk up a little bit of it while they're still young,

740
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: they have plenty of time to grow into adults and

741
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: to understand and mature with the money and understand what

742
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: they're supposed to do with it. As appolised tug let down,

743
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying. What she say, finish

744
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: of the story is if you give a nigga some

745
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: money while he's young, if he foks a little bit

746
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: of it up when you give it to him, then

747
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: he still has to do with that money. If you

748
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: give an old nigger somebody yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

749
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: yeah it's black with eighty million. Yeah yeah, come down

750
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: the money management and stuff like that. It goes both way.

751
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: But she says, she's saying, when you you you still

752
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: got a shot because your talent still, I'm saying, I

753
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: feel like you'll do more good than harm. So it's

754
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: you because it's gonna help the help you and your

755
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: family out. You get what I'm saying. It's a lot

756
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: of times I'll be going to recruit players. I see

757
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: players and their mom don't have a dollar to get something.

758
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: That's and that's crazy because you see, you know, their

759
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: son or daughter. Everybody is staying got their jersey on,

760
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, but mom can't get a hot dog. And yeah,

761
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: the players can't get a job because they got to

762
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: be a football practice. Oh yeah, you get what I'm saying.

763
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: So it's all that's changing now. So I think if

764
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: you like a rock and heart, why they just can't

765
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: get a soundary the college college just make billions because

766
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: the thing is they like to control the players. Yeah,

767
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: but they still just motivated pay them. Nigga. I feel

768
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: like they're paying them in scholarship education, which is get

769
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: your education, but it's some bullshit. It's like I need

770
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: to That's why they started. Let me need to get

771
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: their own money. So by the time I mean school,

772
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: going through the school ship getting money, I might figure

773
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: out something else of business before I even get to

774
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: that that they want to control you. Yeah, so you

775
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: stay here for these two or three four years, make

776
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: us a whole bunch of money. We don't get you

777
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: stay years and then you might go to the league. Right,

778
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: but you know how that can it is what it is,

779
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: so outside of your agency, Like what type of ship

780
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: do you to do in your free time? And do

781
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: you have like a family? You got kids and ship? Yeah.

782
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: I actually just got married, uh in two thousand and

783
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: twenty September to my longtime longtime girlfriend five years September

784
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: September six. Now I I can feel it now, September six,

785
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: September six. So we end up making an official pandemic

786
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: taught me a lot, you know it really, you know,

787
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: at that time alone in isolation, you know, made you

788
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 1: made me realize how important family was. You got kids, no,

789
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: not yet, So we planned we want to enjoy a

790
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: year together and then so you know, we'll see what

791
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: happens next year. So what kind of ship do you

792
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: like to do? Honestly? I saw the sports. I'm real

793
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: big into just um self development and just money management.

794
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: So I'm big into real estate, crypto um investing, things

795
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: like that. So I pretty much do what everybody do

796
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: as far as um. You don't like the travel or nothing,

797
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, I worked for Delta for teen years and

798
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: I could fly throwing bags under the plane bag of channel,

799
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: and so I've been able to fly since twenty so

800
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm pretty much flew out from then and then just traveling. Guys, Honestly,

801
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: I just like being at home. I like relaxing and

802
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: bills paid. You got any like any games or anything

803
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: that you like to play, like board games and ship?

804
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: You know what man, I sound real boring. I was like,

805
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: I don't play. I like to read books. Man, I'm real.

806
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: If you got a day when you want to just

807
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: get on some bullshit, not extreme bullshit, but if you said, man,

808
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: the day off to be on some bullshit and maybe

809
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: go to the Cheetah and get me oh yeah, so

810
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: still club stuff like that. I mean, yeah, I'm I'm

811
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: a kind of stour of that. Ye let him know.

812
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: I was that Stroker's last night a matter of fact.

813
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: So that was cool, and it was it was more

814
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: stunting east Side, yeah, you know, and it was It

815
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: was funny because when I was walking in, uh you know,

816
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: you take your your your idea, get a dude, your

817
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: idea whatever. And he was like, hey, I know you.

818
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: So I think he knows me through my dad or

819
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: do Funky or brand of My brother would always be

820
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: over there. He was like, you have sports age to do, right.

821
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: I was like yeah yeah. He was like oh yeah, man,

822
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: I've seen your your class. Man, um, I want to

823
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: mess with you to take my number, and so I

824
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: put my hands up to get was like, man, you're

825
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: good man. Going in. I was like cool, Yeah, you

826
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Everybody mess him up, but he

827
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: was cool man. He sold a lot of love man,

828
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: and um, you know, but yeah, I definitely parted in

829
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: the city, but I grew up in that DJ pretty

830
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: ull take Travis Porter, you know Roscoe Dad. So we

831
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: was at Frequency big all that. So I partied. Man,

832
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: I've done everything I wanted to do. The thing I

833
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: want to do now is at third I said, I

834
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: want to make real money. You know what I'm saying.

835
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: I got enough experience, I got enough locker room war

836
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: stories to tell everyone, Oh yeah I did all this,

837
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: But now, you know, can I change my family life? Fact?

838
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. If I have a son

839
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: and have a daughter, can I change they? Like? Can they?

840
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,959
Speaker 1: Can they call me and say, hey, Pops, I want

841
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: this job. Made that call. That's what I'm focused on

842
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: right now. So party and stuff, I feel like that's

843
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: pre thirty. You know what I'm saying. Cool, now get

844
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: a bad then go party you know what that that's

845
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: what you want to do. But right now we're just

846
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: focusing on, you know, bad talk. You're also a massive

847
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: Big Facts fan too. We salute you for that. Most definitely,

848
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: most definitely what was like two and three your favorite episodes.

849
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: I love the one with a bird Man. You know,

850
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: the Birdman is an underrated genius when it comes to

851
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: that music. You know, I like bird Man. Um, that's funny.

852
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: I like the guy, the pimp guy. Yeah, his what's interesting.

853
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: It was really a lot of people. Yeah. I liked him. Yeah,

854
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: I was that was that was choosing ship. I got

855
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: chose done. Um. So on the on the business side,

856
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: I like Aristotle stuff too. I like his stuff. So

857
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: yeah I personally no, I don't. I know people got

858
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: work with him, but now I don't know him personally.

859
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: We got to hook that up. Yeah, do that cool

860
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: and shout putting up let he say you upset up here.

861
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: We appreciate you be coming through my brother absolutely check

862
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: out any final words for the people, man some games

863
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: from knowledge and how to get some money, how to

864
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: stay out of bullshit, whatever you want to tell the people. Um.

865
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: If I leave you guys with anything, I think my

866
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: life changed when I became coachable. You know, prior to

867
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: me becoming prior to me being thirty, I always had

868
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: minimal success. But I never had that breakthrough where you know,

869
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: I could get to seven figures. I always was stuck,

870
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying at a certain point. And

871
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: then when I got third, I said, you know what,

872
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: my you know, my New Year's resolution was just to learn,

873
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, not trying to be the smartest guy in

874
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: the room, you know, just find somebody who who know

875
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: more than me and just be coachable. If they say

876
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: do this, do it, you know. And ever since I

877
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: did that, I had a breakthrough. My life has been up.

878
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: You know you're saying financial breakthrough came from just listening. Yeah,

879
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: because sometimes we read a book. We read riched that

880
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: for that and then the first thing we do we

881
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: hop on the internet at like we got all figured out.

882
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: We get we get one dollar off a bitcoin, and

883
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: now we Dave Ramsey, you know, we know everybody, you know.

884
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: And so I was one of those guys because I

885
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: read Rich that part that Risch, that part of that

886
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: twenty so I've always been at and I said, you

887
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: know what, I'm sick of that. I don't want to

888
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: be the smart guy. Don't know who's smarter than me,

889
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: and it's showing. And then I went and got next

890
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: to them and I just learned and I soaked it up.

891
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: And then from that I realized everybody who around me

892
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: was successful, was married, you know. So then I said,

893
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: well maybe I need to get married. My girl been

894
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: here for five years, she's been, you know, holding me down.

895
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: I said, let me go get married. And uh And

896
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: it was because when I losing their bitches. Man, this ship, Man,

897
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: that should be fun. You lose your girl, bro, why

898
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: do you think they're losing them? Know? What's that about? No,

899
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm been locking then what I've been locking in thirty years? Man,

900
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I ain't going Okay, cool cool cool? But yeah, I

901
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: just felt like to you know, having the right one

902
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 1: significant other, Yeah, that should help take something from you too,

903
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: when you when you got the wrong one. Yeah, not

904
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: when you when you lose that one. Oh yeah, that

905
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: whole Yeah. Man, Why do you think people, I mean,

906
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: why are you thinking? Why you think people they don't

907
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: be working out that pandemic? I think the pandemic pandemic

908
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: a lot of relationships. It's either made a stronger fuck

909
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: them up. Yeah, because you actually got to see who

910
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: this person will all day, all night. You know what

911
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I gotta be locking in with you know,

912
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: I gotta I see flaws that I never would have

913
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: saw you know what's interesting, I realized that most people

914
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: get married for the wrong reason. Wrong reason. I feel like,

915
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, you're signing a marriage contract because it's a

916
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: business decision. You get it. So when whoever you married,

917
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: they should be an asset. They should make you better

918
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: because you guys are coming together, combining in wealth, and

919
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: so it's not just you know, love is important, but

920
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: it also has to make sure that this is a

921
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: good business decision. That way, because love and stuff like

922
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: that can be fleeting. It could it's temporary, but at

923
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you still got to do business.

924
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: What you think is a business decision. You know, it

925
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: depends on your situation. So if you got twenty million

926
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: dollars and then you're marrying somebody who you know down bad,

927
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: you know that might be a bad decision. And and

928
00:45:53,120 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: I know it sounds you know what I'm saying it

929
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: would you rather have the almost equally yo partner that

930
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna really be loyal to that you're using you

931
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: don't give a funk about you? Are they equally yoke?

932
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: What I'm not saying what I'm saying financially financially, but

933
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: they're on some bullshit or would you rather have this person?

934
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,479
Speaker 1: I look, I don't have nothing willing to learn. Women

935
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: to shut the funk up and follow you, help you

936
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: build empire. And that's a good business de season because

937
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna listen, you get what I'm saying. But if

938
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: you got somebody they got bad financial this is then

939
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 1: that might hurt you. So I just feel like, you know,

940
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: they got to be a business partner and romantic as well. Okay,

941
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that it help. I feel like, yeah,

942
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: I feel like I had twenty million dollars again, whoever, No,

943
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: if I had twenty million dollars and I married somebody

944
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: who didn't have as much money, that means I love

945
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: right right for for them? Yeah, you love them for them? Yeah? Yeah,

946
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: for them. That's why I shouldn't be But why just

947
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: look at something about them for then? I signed a

948
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: contract for that though, if you love her, just move

949
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: her into your house, take care of for the rest

950
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: of your life. And that's real ship. I signed a country,

951
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: I signed a contract. Yeah, could that be that real ship?

952
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: That real ship? Not like what he said, like the

953
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: end of the day, I can just love you then, Yeah,

954
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: that's what it is. Why we have to put this. Yeah,

955
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: but if it's now, we're going to do this to day, Yeah,

956
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: saying you just gave them. Yeah, like why should we're married?

957
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna ring in everything you don't like it, But

958
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: I'm not putting it. I don't know. I don't really

959
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm not really big on titles and ship like that.

960
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: So I'm told I'm with that. I can give you

961
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: the big ring, call you my wife, but we got

962
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: to do no contract. Basically, how does somebody why is that?

963
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: Why is that? You know what it is? Because because

964
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: I got sisters? What the marriage? What the paper do though?

965
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: Whole wholesome hold of accountable? Now the paper don't do them.

966
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: We got them guarantee if you funk up, she get

967
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: half of the money. Hold you accountable, Washington that money

968
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: and little Now I don't got to add the money

969
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: now I put the money in somebody E's names. Not

970
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: even about the money, like its something's happening. You got

971
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: to make it and you weren't callherent the laws of

972
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: our land. She can't make decisions if you're not married. Well,

973
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: nigga's understanding that. But you got somebody, Yeah, somebody that's

974
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna let Lena say, you put a big old rock

975
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: on the hand. See, but see that ship don't really

976
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: that ship don't matter because some people don't give a

977
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: funk about ship like that about big rocks and ship.

978
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: Like what I'm saying, whatever, whatever that that we do, whatever,

979
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: what this say? We're married without signing that paperwork. I'm

980
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: doing basically like I'm doing everything. I'm taking you out,

981
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm loving you like a wife, I'm treating you like

982
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: a white She gonna ask you, why won't you sign

983
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: the paperwork for? What is that about? I'm just saying

984
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: that I get what he said, already have signed the

985
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: mother year. Yes. What I'm saying is if I would

986
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: have thought about this, like in the end of the day,

987
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: what are we doing this fun? That's what that's the episode. Now, Yeah,

988
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: that's a whole episode. Why isn't now why did I

989
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: sign that contract? Yeah? Every time I've signed technical, Every

990
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: time I've signed a contract, I received signing. It's technical

991
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: for you, all that all that, all that ceremony, ship

992
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 1: and all that ships. Every time we signed a contract,

993
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: they send a wire. Yeah. So when I signed the

994
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: country got a life Parker on paper. I got her

995
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: going on weather right, I'm saying, what that paper? Why

996
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: a motherfucker gotta stand up here the State of Georgia

997
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: have to tell me I'm married forever. If I'm saying

998
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: this ship forever, I don't get that. Why I take

999
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: a judge or preacher staying tell me that I'm married

1000
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: this woman forever when I'm already sided up for it.

1001
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: That's a fact. But I want to understand it when

1002
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: you when you get made this ship up, playing playing

1003
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate, when you're a Nigger and you fucking get

1004
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: ready to fucking like do some like funk ship bullshit,

1005
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: that paper makes you think twice not really not given,

1006
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: Jeff bezout. At the end of the day, I love

1007
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: you enough, but you're gonna having this sheet anyway. That's

1008
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: just how I go. It ain't your bazo and all

1009
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: them to give a funk about getting their wife. I

1010
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: did love you enough for you to have half of this.

1011
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: Take that. I don't care. Go ahead, all right, yeah,

1012
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: if you've been that since the go ahead? So why

1013
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: why do why do people feel like it's going back

1014
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: to losing your wife or your girl, or whatever the

1015
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: case is you want say. But I just gotta throw

1016
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: this out there. I lost my wife. I lost everything.

1017
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: They put everything with that. No, they had everything, doing

1018
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: everything for them. Melt When you lost everything, you lost

1019
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: your meltal in your heart. Okay. Yeah, So with that

1020
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: being said that we will revisit this sign the paperwork

1021
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: for what? Why not you're gonna sign a record cont

1022
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: I ain't no bett and he just gonna sign record

1023
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: contracts at all. I'm not saying. I'm not taking it

1024
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: away from what I got going on. Bro. I love

1025
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: my wife uncle. Yes, And in the paperwork, don't mean

1026
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: I don't even know where it said. I ain't seen

1027
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: it almost since I feel you. What I'm saying is

1028
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: she got it. Why the fun is that come out?

1029
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: It's in a safe, It's a contract, That's what it is.

1030
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: You combine it well, but who's who's the Motherfucker's gotta

1031
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: tell me the mother That was the same people that

1032
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: tell you how fast you can drive, how slowly you

1033
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: can drive, stop at the red like it's day. We

1034
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: get that part. I feel you on that ship. I

1035
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: feel you. But loan is God, no loans men God

1036
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: say this, mel But I think marriages are more for like,

1037
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: so good sign the female validation of because marriage their sisters,

1038
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: family members, auntie, his cousins, daddy's everybody. Like then they

1039
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: can't put a ring on the chat like y'all, don't

1040
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: marry y'all. Like you gotta look at it like back

1041
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: in the day, like marriage was a common practice of

1042
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: the institution of love and finances. Man, ship, they're just

1043
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: making some ship to make a nigga, say heimpo to

1044
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: have a one bitch man at the end of the day. Alright,

1045
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: marriage is supposed to magazine. We can marry. That's what

1046
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, man, they said some they throwed on

1047
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: in the game. Bro, nigga is supposed to be kings.

1048
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be kings. Man. That's why it ain't enough.

1049
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: That's why it's a shortage on niggas. Listen because it

1050
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: because it's say list hold what you're say. Basically, you

1051
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: study history. Back in the day, all the rich people,

1052
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: so all the Floyd Mayweathers, they could get a hundred

1053
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: thousands of girls. The problem with that is most people

1054
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: was poor, so they would leave countries and go to

1055
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: other countries where they could get women, and so that

1056
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: would make those countries weak because they didn't have no

1057
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: soldiers and stuff like that. So that's why they make

1058
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: it so that one man, one girl, because if you know,

1059
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: the richest dude got a hunted girls. You know, now

1060
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: these dudes sit around here like man, I'm going to

1061
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: d R you know, and that change power makes sense? Yeah,

1062
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: makes sense. Well, appreciate you broke everybody in the website

1063
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: for your slap a Www Dot Sports Agent, masterclass dot Com.

1064
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: Slash opting. It'll be in a it'll be in a link. Alright, alright,

1065
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 1: Big Facts Sea, I gotta side out my boy shoun

1066
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: spiritual word, fucking hoodie salute, amazing platforms, a lot of love,

1067
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: crazy man, Big Facts, Oh yeah, called my agent, Underscore Instagram,

1068
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 1: follow me, that's what it is. Triple w dot, Big

1069
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: Facts Pod. You're listening to Big Facts with Big Bank

1070
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: and DJ Scream. Follow Big Facts on social media at

1071
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: Big Facts five five, Big Man, DJ Scream bring you

1072
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 1: big back Man. It's all up that merch es. Yeah,

1073
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: that's right, Www Dot, Big facts pot dot com. What's

1074
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: the real one? One time, y'all, get y'all some of

1075
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: this merchant man, Big Facts pot dot com. Get that

1076
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: merch right now. Shot with US Sottoway up Make Fact

1077
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: Merch going down because it's the new website today www.

1078
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: Got Big Facts pod dot com. Is it