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Speaker 1: a head coach. You know what, what do you assess

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Speaker 1: that obviously had confidence in him? But is there even

427
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Speaker 1: more there? Yeah? I think I think Dave's has done

428
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Speaker 1: a great job. I think, um, kind of what you're

429
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Speaker 1: seeing now. You know, he's a good leader. He's done

430
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Speaker 1: a good job. I think he did a phenomenal job

431
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Speaker 1: with his staff. You know again, I think Mike Half

432
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 1: has done a good job team Mac on special teams wink,

433
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, having a veteran defensive coordinator that you know

434
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,120
Speaker 1: has played in games, playoff games, whatever it may be, Um,

435
00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 1: and handle that side of the ball. He's done a

436
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Speaker 1: good job. So yeah, I mean I think Dave's and

437
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Speaker 1: I have great communication. That where that's where it starts.

438
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Speaker 1: You know, we're constantly talking about not just two but

439
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 1: you know beyond how how different roster moves will affect us,

440
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, looking into the future, but also you know,

441
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,199
Speaker 1: laser focused on today. So, Um, I think he's done

442
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Speaker 1: a good job and his his staff has done a

443
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Speaker 1: really good job. And you know, again, I go back

444
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Speaker 1: to you don't know how difficult it is for you know,

445
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Speaker 1: these players that have been here all spring in August,

446
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's tough enough for them to know the playbook,

447
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:43,640
Speaker 1: but to bring in new guys and two weeks later

448
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,560
Speaker 1: they're they're playing on a Sunday. Um. Again, it's it's

449
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 1: very difficult to do and his staffs done a good

450
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Speaker 1: job of that. So, um, I'm happy with you know,

451
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Speaker 1: Dave's and his staff. What do you think is the

452
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Speaker 1: most impressive part about what he's done? Is it is

453
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Speaker 1: it the game day coaching? Is it the all field leadership?

454
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Speaker 1: You know what what's impressed most? Yeah, I would say both,

455
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 1: and you know, we that's what you look at. You know,

456
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Speaker 1: there's there has been a couple of times with one

457
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Speaker 1: or two times ten guys on the field, but there

458
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, the clock management, the time management and games. Um,

459
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Speaker 1: I think it's been very good. Um, you know, those

460
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Speaker 1: are things that that he can control in game. You know,

461
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Speaker 1: I think it's been really good. And then yeah, just leadership,

462
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Speaker 1: you know, being himself. He's not trying to be anybody

463
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Speaker 1: like Daves today is the same guy that I worked

464
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Speaker 1: with the last five years, and um, the same guy

465
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Speaker 1: worked with in Miami, So he's not trying to be

466
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Speaker 1: somebody somebody else. He's very comfortable in his skin and

467
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: he's got very good leadership, you know, not just amongst

468
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Speaker 1: the team, but the staff and in the entire organization.

469
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Speaker 1: When the staff came together into having a lot of

470
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Speaker 1: guys Kansas City, you have coordinated Kansas cy coordinator from Baltimore.

471
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Speaker 1: And have you Buffalo Buffalo influence? Obviously? Have you been

472
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Speaker 1: able to see those three winning cultures come together and

473
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Speaker 1: and what is that like in a room when you

474
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Speaker 1: does it ever get discussed off three places? Yeah? It is,

475
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Speaker 1: And like before we played Baltimore, like you'd like to

476
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Speaker 1: pick you know, wink I picked his ring on Baltimore

477
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: because again it's historically that year and year out, you

478
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Speaker 1: know they're competing, um, you know for playoffs and championships.

479
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,919
Speaker 1: So uh, same thing with Kansas City again. You know

480
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Hardball and you know those are very

481
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Speaker 1: good coaches that you look up to in your respect.

482
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Speaker 1: So um yeah, just coming from a winning culture and

483
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Speaker 1: knowing what it's supposed to look like. You know, the

484
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Speaker 1: way you lead meetings, the way you practice, the way

485
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Speaker 1: you do things. You know, I think those are all

486
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Speaker 1: characteristics that they brought with them. The style you guys

487
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Speaker 1: have been winning is sustainable over seventeen weeks, every game

488
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Speaker 1: kind of being six and two. As I'm saying, it's

489
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Speaker 1: a recipe or nine, it's working. So no, I think again,

490
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Speaker 1: like there's nine games that there's things that we know

491
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Speaker 1: we can improve on. I just I'm you know, you

492
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Speaker 1: can't coach effort, you can't coach toughness, and and our

493
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Speaker 1: guys have. You know, they've been tough, they've been competitive,

494
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Speaker 1: they've been resilient. You know, they're playing their butts off,

495
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Speaker 1: they're preparing right. Some weeks they're just gonna be negative matchups.

496
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Speaker 1: You know, it's no matter where I've been, there's some

497
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Speaker 1: games you play like that's they're good against are not

498
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Speaker 1: so good and it's gonna happen, or some weeks you

499
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Speaker 1: just don't have it. It's the NFL. It's there's a

500
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: lot of parody in the league. And you know we've

501
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Speaker 1: we've been able not to beat ourselves. You know, we

502
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Speaker 1: had you know, we turned it over a couple of

503
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Speaker 1: times on Seattle, but you know there's eleven mints and

504
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Speaker 1: they left in the game it's thirteen to thirteen. You know,

505
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: that's that's where we've been a lot this season, and um,

506
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Speaker 1: we've made more players in the other teams. So um

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Speaker 1: you again, I'm just I'm really proud of where the

508
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Speaker 1: guys are and and the way they're playing and the

509
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Speaker 1: way they're approaching you know, their craft, and you know,

510
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: again whether it's sustainable or not. Um, you know, I

511
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Speaker 1: think I think we've got some good players here, and

512
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking forward to the final nine games.

513
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Speaker 1: How much different do you feel about your got you know,

514
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Speaker 1: you had eight games basically half the season to see them.

515
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Speaker 1: How much different do you feel about the roster as

516
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Speaker 1: a whole? And do you feel like maybe you have

517
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Speaker 1: more building but players than you had previously? Uh No,

518
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think I feel the same

519
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: about the guys. Again, to me, it was just how

520
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: everybody came together, you know how it's it's still forming.

521
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 1: I mean, we're still we're trying to evolve, um, you know,

522
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: in different parts of the game. But you know, I

523
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Speaker 1: feel the same. You know that the player is that

524
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Speaker 1: I thought we're good players have proven to be good players,

525
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 1: and you know, some of the backups have um, maybe

526
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: exceeded my expectations, which is good again in a testament

527
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff, But um, I kind of see

528
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: how how it was. Just we've we've came together really

529
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: good and played complimentary football. You don't hear the word

530
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: franchise before every position, like franchise quarterback. The other position

531
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Speaker 1: is franchise left tackle. I'm curious what you think of

532
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas's development because there's a lot of metrics out

533
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: there that say he's the best in the NFL. Yeah.

534
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: I think Andrew's been been really good. You know again,

535
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Speaker 1: he's you're looking at left tackle. He's got feet, he's

536
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: got length, balanced body control. Um, I think Andrew's playing

537
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Speaker 1: at a high level. I mean, I could go on

538
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: and on about all the strengths, and there's the weakness

539
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 1: box is going to be close to empty. I mean,

540
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 1: he's he's good, and he's even a better person, and

541
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Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed working with him. Has has your winning

542
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 1: adjusted the way you are scouting prospects, like knowing or

543
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 1: targeting where you're going to be picking, how much research

544
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: maybe you're doing on certain guys versus time you're not

545
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: spending on others. Yeah, that's a good question. I we

546
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: basically have a top ten report that I get weekly

547
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: and it's by position, So I'm trying to attack that

548
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: entire thing, like, you know, left If it's a left tackle,

549
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: it's all right. I'm still going to go see the guy.

550
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just because you know we've got Andrew

551
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: Thomas or you know, Evan Neel's at right tackle. I'm

552
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: still trying to see, you know, the top hundred prospects

553
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: if I can um in person. So um, it won't

554
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: affect you know, how I'm scouting or who I'm going

555
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 1: to see. You know, you rely on the coaching staff

556
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: developed players. I would imagine there are levels of talent

557
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: of those players. You know, you go to your whatever

558
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 1: guys have been picked in the first round, you say, okay,

559
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: go develop, say Kwan Barkley. Well, it might be developed

560
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: a little bit different. It seems like it seems like

561
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Speaker 1: this staff has been able to develop on several levels.

562
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Speaker 1: Players who are here, maybe got a clean slate to

563
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: be here, players that have been brought in. How valuable

564
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: can that and building a roster when you know you

565
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: can rely on your staff to build up the players

566
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: that are actually here yeah, and that's that's something coach

567
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: Parcels used to say to me, like the quickest way

568
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: for a head coach to get fired is not develop

569
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: young talent. And Dave's and I are aligned in that,

570
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: like the importance of you know, we saw it in

571
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Speaker 1: Buffalo with some of the young players that are you know,

572
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: contributing for them, and um, you know, I'm constantly on

573
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: him about, hey, we gotta get this guy more playtime.

574
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: Where this guy's gotta you know, in order to keep

575
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: developing these guys, and the coaches have bought into it,

576
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: and it helps when Dave's and I are aligned in

577
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: that in terms of the young players developing again, there's

578
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: gonna be like growing pains. You know, I mentioned earlier,

579
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Speaker 1: just very few rookies are instant coffee when they come

580
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: in the building, and it it takes time and they

581
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: have to go through growing pains. But you know, the

582
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: good thing is now we're winning some games, they're getting

583
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: valuable playtime. Um, while being able to make some step mistakes,

584
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: were still able to win some of those games, which

585
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: will you know, pay dividends in the long haul. So um, yeah,

586
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in you know, you know, a

587
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 1: lot of good coaches are the ones that can develop,

588
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: you know, young players. J since you've been here, I

589
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: assume you could have walked down your block and nobody

590
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: would have known you. Now that this team is six

591
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: and two, I mean, has your life changed in any way?

592
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: I gotta ask that question earlier. It was the what

593
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing that's happened to you since you've

594
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: been with the Giants and kind of along the same lines.

595
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was at Lows with my wife not

596
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: too long ago, and I felt like this guy kept

597
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: looking at me. I'm like, what the hell's going on? Like,

598
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: why is this guy creeping around? I'm on the next

599
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: aisle and there he is again the next aisle and

600
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: finally came up to me. It's like, are you Joe

601
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: Shank I got a picture with you and it was

602
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: in Lows, and you know, I thought it was kind

603
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: of creepy, and then I realized that, you know, yeah,

604
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: it's hard to get used to being out and being recognized,

605
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: Like I'm not used to that. I haven't gotten used

606
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: to that. Um, but it's a lot better than them

607
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: booing or dog cussing. You are, you know, throwing things

608
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: at you so um, but now it's been great so far.

609
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: Um you know again. But yeah, that's that's hard for

610
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: me to get used to, for sure,