1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 2: We welcome now our Bloomberg TV and radio audiences because 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: joining us now is Firefly Aerospace CEO Jason Kim, joining 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: us from the NASAC awaiting the trading debut. First of all, 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: congratulations on the IPO Jason, great to have you with us. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: Talk to us first about why now. We were just 7 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 2: talking about this heating up that we're seeing in the 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: IPO market. You're seeing more companies actually come out of 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: the pipeline after what's been pretty quiet couple of years. 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: Why did you pick this particular moment. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: Well, it was always part of our strategy. I mean, 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: if you look at what we've been doing. We got 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: orbital flight heritage on our Alpha rocket on our second launch, 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: and we landed on the Moon just in March of 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: this year, at something that's really hard. Space is hard, 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: but landing on the Moon is even harder, and this 17 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: company did it successfully. And then if you look at 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: what we're doing, we have a production line of Alpha rockets, 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: and we're building our Eclipse reusable sixteen ton rocket as 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: well as lunar landers annually, and we're building Electra spacecraft 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: to serve you know, the Golden Dome customer space exploration 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: as well as commercial teket And so if you look 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: at what the CEO of NASDAC said, a Data Friedman, 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: you know, the markets are strong and they're growing, and 25 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: we've gotten really great reception and conviction from investor investors 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: over time, and so this is the right moment. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: You're going to raise almost a billion dollars looks like 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: eight hundred and sixty eight million dollars. Jason, what are 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: you going to do with the money? 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's kind of like what I already said. 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: We're going to rate up. We're going to continue to 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: increase capacity because there's so much more demand in the 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: space markets right now because of national security, because of 34 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: space exploration. To the Moon. You know, the Moon is 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: really important. It's the ultimate high ground. It's also important 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: if we're going to put humans on the Moon again 37 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: starting in a couple of years, we want to know 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: everything about the move. We want to put more lunar 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: enters up there, more infrastructure, more power systems up there too. 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: So we want to make the Moon more frictionalists for everybody, 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: for America first. 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 2: And we're just seeing this headline cross the terminal now 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: that the Firefly IPO said to end more than twenty 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: times over subscribe, so plenty of demand there. Jason, Let's 45 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about the actual business and 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: what the status of Eclipse is as I understand it. 47 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: That's your rocket that's meant to compete against the Falcon nine. 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: How is that going. 49 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Well, we see the Falcon nine as very complimentary. That's 50 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: looking at the heavy and super heavy market and a 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: lot of that is going towards good use to launch starlinks. 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: But the rest of the world needs launch capacity and 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven it's going to be really scarce, 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: and so that's why our target of launching our first 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: Eclipse in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty six is 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: perfect timing because we'll be able to provide more supply 57 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: of medium launch for Nest Security Space Launch Program customers 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: as well as the commercial customers. They're putting up a 59 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: lot of great advanced technology that are in abundant quantities 60 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: for those proliferic constellations. 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: You you know, you mentioned Adina. You're at the NASDAQ 62 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: obviously tried and true storied index there and business, but 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: did you think about TXSE. You're from Texas. 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: Well. Texas is a great place to do business. I've 65 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: run previous companies and you know, Texas is just at 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: the forefront. You know, they have the Texas Space Commission. 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: And we received a eight point two million dollars grant 68 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five and we're going to use that 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: to expand our production line of concurrent builds of our 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Blue Ghost Lunar landers. As you know, as of last Tuesday, 71 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: NASA awarded us our fourth blue Ghost Ludar Lander for 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy eight million dollars and we're just 73 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: proud of the team. We're going to kick that program 74 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: off next week and we're hiring a lot of great talent. 75 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: So if there's people that want to come and do 76 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: bold missions and do more of what they want to do, 77 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Fireflies the place to do. 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: That, all right. 79 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate the update there on that contract too. I 80 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about the Alpha rocket 81 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: as well. When you think about your long term strategy, 82 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: where does Alpha fit in? How important is that? 83 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: Alpha is so important because it's the only one ton 84 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: to space rocket in the market with orbital flight heritage. 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: We're rating up right now because there's so much more 86 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: demand than there is supply, and so we want to 87 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: be able to address that demand. So there's demand in 88 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: the tactically response to space market from the Space Force. 89 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: They want to keep ahead of the threats and we 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: did that with our Victimsknox mission in twenty twenty three. 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: We were the first to successfully launch in a twenty 92 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: four hour timeline, shattering the twenty one day previous record 93 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: and it became the gold standard for launch in space. 94 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: And then if you look at you know commercial customers, 95 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: they want dedicated rights to mission unique orbits to generate 96 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,799 Speaker 1: revenue from their business models. And then finally we onboarded 97 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: onto the Missile Defense Agency MAC TB two point zero 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: program and that's an IDIQ where we'll start manifesting launches 99 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: of three to four hypersonic missiles at a time. There's 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: a lot of economies of scale with that, so there 101 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: is so much demand for the one ton off of rocket. 102 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: All right, very cool stuff. 103 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: We look forward to talking to you again, Jason Firefly 104 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: Aerospace CEO Jason cam talking to us on the debut 105 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 3: of their public offering