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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to another edition of The

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Speaker 1: Falcon's Final Whistle podcast, brought to you by Windows eleven.

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Speaker 1: I'm Scott Bear along here with Tory Mcellanian to quote

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Speaker 1: the Lion King Whomba. Most specifically, Wow, our trio's down

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Speaker 1: to two. Oh that one so good. Here here's what

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Speaker 1: I was gonna do. I was gonna be like, you know,

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Speaker 1: over here occupied by our dear friend and colleague Chris

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Speaker 1: rim who did his last podcasts last time, and then

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Speaker 1: he took a brief sojourn in Portugal and now he's

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Speaker 1: gonna go to a little paper called The New York Times,

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Speaker 1: day that said Chris had the best voice of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Agree with that so too. I think my voice is

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Speaker 1: incredibly annoying, and and I do I think it's so annoying,

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Speaker 1: sultry tones of Chris rim but we are as we

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Speaker 1: move through the summer, we are going to start having

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Speaker 1: guests on the podcast. Get some fresh energy in here.

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Speaker 1: But that's all for the future. Another shameless plug before

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Speaker 1: we get started on what will be an Ota Primer

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Speaker 1: podcast where we delve into everything that the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 1: half or three weeks, including I believe it's ten OTAs

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Speaker 1: that officially started that there first of ten on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and they run through a mandatory mini camp if I

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Speaker 1: go real quiet until training camp. Um. But before we

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Speaker 1: get to that, just a quick promo. On June third,

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Speaker 1: clear your calendars, go down to Mercedes ben Stadium to

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Speaker 1: watch the Falcons Ota practice. That's gonna be awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then after the practice, we're gonna do a live

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Speaker 1: episode of Falcon's Final Whistle with me with you and

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Speaker 1: who knows and a player. Yeah, a player dot do's dot.

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Speaker 1: It could be anybody from your imagination. Maybe it's Grady Jarrett.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's Lorenzo Carter, who we're gonna get too later

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Speaker 1: in this podcast. It could be one of the new

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Speaker 1: NFL draft picks. You're gonna have to show up to

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Speaker 1: find out. And also there will be time for you

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Speaker 1: guys to ask questions too, So all that stuff is

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Speaker 1: gonna be fun. June third, Mercedes Benz Stadium be there

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Speaker 1: or B Square. Before we get to all that coming

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Speaker 1: and that's the offseason program is starting to ramp up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Now. Are they putting pads on? No,

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Speaker 1: full training camp period, but it's the first time that

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Speaker 1: So stay tuned for lots of content coming up about

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Speaker 1: that tory kind of what are you expecting? What do

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Speaker 1: think that's what I'm most looking forward to. It's not

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Speaker 1: want to see what this offensive line looks like all

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Speaker 1: I mean the A team, however, the first team, however

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Speaker 1: features of Windows eleven at Windows dot com. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's start with the most popular position obviously, Yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: Let's go straight to that right tackle position battle and

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Speaker 1: Thursday will be the first time the media will be

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Speaker 1: in front of a full squad Falcons practice without Matt

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Speaker 1: all the thirteen plus years. That's gonna be different. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: different isn't bad, but it's gonna take some adjustment, right

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Speaker 1: for the for the new quarterbacks coming in, for the

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Speaker 1: so many different things. Matt's footprint and his legacy here

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Speaker 1: But now that they're turning the page here with OTA's look,

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Speaker 1: not put a hierarchy of where Marcus is and where

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Speaker 1: excited to see how Desmond pushes Marcus and Marcus pushes Desmond.

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Speaker 1: Desmond wants to prove that he should have been a

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Speaker 1: the offensive, without the offensive line play, yeah, there won't

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Speaker 1: be a lot of highlights to talk about. Now, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to see Marcus Mario to take off for

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Speaker 1: you know, five yards if this offensive line camp plot

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Speaker 1: for him. Now the Falcons defense defense. If you're a

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Speaker 1: Falcons defender and you're listening to this podcast, one, thank

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Speaker 1: you too. You feel like a little slighted. We've been

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Speaker 1: talking about the offense the whole time, and now we're

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Speaker 1: like running down to the end of it. I'm like, oh, ps,

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Speaker 1: completely remade. Yeah. Um, so when you get to that

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Speaker 1: Who were you most excited to see over the course

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Speaker 1: want to? I mean, I I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: times I've said this, and I'm gonna say it again.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this podcast has just been me reiterating

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Speaker 1: all of the points that I feel like I've already made,

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Speaker 1: but which is right about where we are. It's time

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Speaker 1: for some action and the OT exactly going to give

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Speaker 1: it to us. Yes, finally, um Casey Hayward and A J. Terrell.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited to see that pairing. Like and

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Speaker 1: I know that in OTA's it's different because you don't

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Speaker 1: have the pads on. You really don't have them going

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Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour down the sideline or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. You don't have them bumping all the way down.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's I'm just excited to see those two

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Speaker 1: because I think that that those two change what Dean

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Speaker 1: going to be really important. I really want to see

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Speaker 1: what he does this year. I know he's on a

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Speaker 1: one year deal because I believe, and this again people

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Speaker 1: might think this is hot take, but I do believe

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Speaker 1: that he for the majority of his time in Atlanta

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Speaker 1: has been playing out of position. And it wasn't until

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Speaker 1: the back half of the twenty twenty season, when Raheem

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Speaker 1: Morris moved him to Nickel and then Dean Peace kept

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Speaker 1: him there that we really saw what Isaiah Oliver could be.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know now he's coming off of

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Speaker 1: ACL that sucks. You know, there's no if ins or

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Speaker 1: butts about it, like it's not good. But you have

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Speaker 1: this one. He's on this one. You're a proven deal.

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Speaker 1: He has AJ Terrell beside him, he has Casey Hayward

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Speaker 1: beside him. And then you have you know, your deep safeties.

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Speaker 1: You have Richie, you have Jalen Hawkins, you have Eric

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Speaker 1: secondary with AJ Terrell and Casey Hayward kind of being

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Speaker 1: the anchors of it, changes things for Dean P's and

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Speaker 1: what he can do. I think that's what I'm excited about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and when it comes to secondary play, you will probably

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Speaker 1: get a clearer picture of what they're doing and how

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Speaker 1: they're operating at OTAs and things like that, then you

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Speaker 1: will the guys up front. But that's not gonna prevent

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Speaker 1: me from saying a guy that I'm fascinated to see

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Speaker 1: not only in these early OTAs, but over the course

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Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldog on the team, Lorenzo Carter. He's a guy

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Speaker 1: that he's had five sacks before. He's a big, strong guy,

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Speaker 1: intriguing talent. He was one of the early early er

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Speaker 1: free agent signings I think. And you actually covered Georgia

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Speaker 1: when he was there. Give us a little scouting report, yeah,

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Speaker 1: him like what can I what can you exact? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I really enjoyed my time covering Lorenzo Carter. It

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Speaker 1: was the year that it was him and Nick Chubb

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Speaker 1: and Sony Michelle and they decided to come back. I

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Speaker 1: think that was the big That was the big storyline

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Speaker 1: of that year is when they went to the National

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Speaker 1: Championship lost Alabama, but we won't talk about that, but

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Speaker 1: that year that they decided to come back. They all

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Speaker 1: could have gone into the draft, but they decided to

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Speaker 1: come back. And I think covering Lorenzo Carter in that year,

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Speaker 1: he I mean, it was just the picturesque year, even

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Speaker 1: though they didn't win the National championship, but for a

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Speaker 1: guy like Lorenzo Carter, it was he it was just

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Speaker 1: like his length all caught my eye. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: think about the he the one moment I think that

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Speaker 1: every Georgia fan or college football fan will remember is

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Speaker 1: in that rose ball when he blocked the block that

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Speaker 1: kick and in double overtime, and that was just you

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Speaker 1: saw his link there, like you saw you saw why

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Speaker 1: he is the player that he is and so and

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Speaker 1: I think that talking to him when he first got

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta, he was talker I guess flowery branch but

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Speaker 1: you know um, but he was talking about you know,

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Speaker 1: his He felt like he was finally coming along. And

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Speaker 1: then he has the Achilles tare and then last year

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Speaker 1: was all about just trying to get back into the

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Speaker 1: form that he thought. And then I think you saw

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Speaker 1: in the last five games of last season what really good.

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Speaker 1: It's really good what he can be and what he

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Speaker 1: hopes to be. I mean he had like a sack

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Speaker 1: and every single uh, every single game the last like

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Speaker 1: five weeks the season had like a lot of tackles

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Speaker 1: for loss, Like I mean, it was a significant time

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Speaker 1: for him. It's showing and I think that's why he

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Speaker 1: was willing to take a one year deal, is showing

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Speaker 1: teams that person that you saw for those five games,

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Speaker 1: that is who I am, not what you saw before

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Speaker 1: when I was trying to get right with the with

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Speaker 1: the Achilles all that kind of stuff. It's this guy,

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Speaker 1: and so I think I'm excited as well to see

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Speaker 1: what he can does, especially because you know he's going

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Speaker 1: to play a big role because that outside linebacker group

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Speaker 1: is so young. They have so much so so young.

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Speaker 1: Like I was talking to Ted Manicino, who's the outside

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Speaker 1: linebackers coach, and he was like, you know, it's nice

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Speaker 1: because you can kind of build them and morph them

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Speaker 1: into what you want. Because you think Audio Ogan Daiji

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Speaker 1: D'Angelo Malone, two rookies. These guys are young. They have

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Speaker 1: a lot that's gonna kind of be thrown at them

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Speaker 1: in this year, particularly having Lorenzo Carter there as a

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Speaker 1: I think that's it's gonna be good. I think it's

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Speaker 1: it may not be significant sack numbers good, but I

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Speaker 1: think for their all their personal growth, it'll be good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna need him, as you pointed out, to

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Speaker 1: play a major kind of stabilizing role. That means good

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Speaker 1: against a run, that means creating havoc in the backfield,

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Speaker 1: something that they struggled to contain even slightly mobile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So we're looking for improvement from this defense, knowing it's

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Speaker 1: kind of a multi year project, but there's so much

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Speaker 1: new here, from the quarterback spot all the way through

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Speaker 1: the defensive backfield. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: tough for us to remember the right numbers for the

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Speaker 1: right guys. I know, everybody's so different. I think I

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Speaker 1: think Rashaw and is, Evans is fifty four, and that

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Speaker 1: was Foyer, and I'm just like, I don't know who

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at flashbacks. Yeah, and it'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see how these guys come together for the first time.

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