WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Setting Sights On New York 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:08.039 This he is talking Cowboys Screaming live on Dallas Cowboys 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:16.840 dot Com and the official Dallas Cowboys as Boy No. 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:22.279 Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brought It, Taylor Stern and 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.240 Rob Phillips Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.680 has been a minute since we've all been here, back 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.680 with a normal week, getting ready for the Giants Cowboys 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:38.760 game on Sunday. So how is everyone doing today Tuesday? 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.760 Here at the Star? Great doing well? Back at it? Yep, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.520 back at it? Are you guys doing today? Guys? Good coach? 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.879 Good coach? Garrett? How doing guys? How we doing? Here 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.160 we go? Here we go. That's a coach who still 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:55.800 has his job, unlike the Giants one. That's right. I 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:57.960 know a lot of people were talking this week. Of course, 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.080 for those listening, the Giant did let go of Ben 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.480 McAdoo and their GM Jerry Reese, who had been there 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.920 a long time, and a lot of people are saying, Okay, 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.600 this can go one way or the other. For the 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.160 Cowboys and Brad you're already shaking your head. Yes, you've 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.520 seen this happen before in the NFL. What do you think? Yeah, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.880 Steve Spagnula is going to take over. He was a 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:20.360 head coach with the Saint Louis Rams wasn't successful at 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.600 It's been a long time defensive coordinaty guy, kind of 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.199 put together some really good game plans the last couple 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:29.399 of years against the Cowboys. This one does worry me 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.600 because now you're starting when you fire coaches, fire general managers, 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:35.680 and then all of a sudden, you know, you put 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.880 Eli Manning back in position to be the starting quarterback 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.120 this week. I worry about this one. I do. And 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.480 I was watching the Raiders tape this morning with the 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.760 Giants defense, and you still have the guys you have 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:51.040 to deal with with Olivier Vernon and Pierre Paul and Harrison, 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.120 those guys. And this is one of those things where 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.400 players the last month of the season now are playing 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.800 for jobs and they're playing whether they need to be 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.840 back or not, and coaches are the same way. You know, 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.880 whoever the new GM is going to be is gonna 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.480 come in. He's gonna evaluate the current staff that's still there, 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.399 and he's gonna evaluate the players. So this this one 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.480 for a team that's lost all these games and now 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.320 they've got there kind of their leader back at quarterback. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:19.679 This could be a very, very difficult game for the Cowboys. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.720 I think there's two layers of this, and you spoke 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.320 to both. Twenty ten was the last time this happened, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.800 really the only time in Jerry Jones's tenure that he's 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.200 replaced a coach mid season, and you spoke to it. 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:34.200 Back then, players were put on notice and they were 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.320 playing for their jobs and performed a lot better in 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.600 the second half of the season under Garrett, who eventually 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:41.720 became the full time coach. The other the other layer 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:46.200 to me is Eli Manning. Yeah, I really unfortunate and 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.600 rare the way he was treated last week, and it 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.280 sounded like based on Giants ownership, they were they were 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.800 regretful of how that went down, and I could see 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.959 this team rallying around him for everything he's meant to 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.840 that organization. So on the flip side, the Cowboys still 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.040 have what to play for, so they should be motivated, 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.680 and they you know, they they're obviously still playing the 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.360 best they can to before the best they can. They 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.560 still have a bad offensive line, and they don't run 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.720 the football all that well, and and they don't have 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.320 great receivers on the edge, So that is a problem. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.840 Other than that, No, but that's it's gonna be hard 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:20.079 for them to score points. Now, have you righted all 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.040 your ills that you had from last the last few 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.400 weeks of scoring points? Joe of hands, If you thought 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.799 thirty eight spot was going to happen this Thursday night 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.080 after putting three games twenty one, I think is what 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.880 I thought they're gonna come. They're gonna come out all 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.760 jacked up, all emotional, fired up, ready to play. And 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.720 what the Cowboys are gonna have to do withstand that 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:44.840 first emotional assault. If you can just get through the 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.920 first quarter, get into the second quarter, and get down 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.120 to where the talent has to play out, then I 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:56.040 think the Cowboys will be fine. But unlike what happened 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.720 to the Giants when the Cowboys changed head coaches, the 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.920 cow Boys jumped out to a lead. Uh, they were up. 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.200 I think it was like sixteen to three on that 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:12.520 hundred and one yard interception returned by Brian McCann and 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.720 and it just snowballed after that. So what you gotta 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.680 do is withstand that first part and let them know, hey, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.520 we're here to play football and we're better than you 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.039 and go back to being two and ten. Yeah, but 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.040 if you don't, you're gonna you're gonna be in trouble. Yeah, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.440 this you're gonna get the Giant's best shot. Then it's 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.920 like I said, Mickey's absolutely right, and you just got 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.520 to withstand the early you know, there could be some 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.240 early problems in this game. Especially again, it's they've still 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.160 got a lot of the same defensive you know, mess 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.560 around at landing, Collins hits you in a pile and 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.720 also the ball comes flying out of there you don't 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.720 block him, yeah, or you don't block or you know, 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.240 Jason Pierre Paulson comes running down the back side and 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.800 you know, and grabs Alfred Moore's for no gain on 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.680 third down. I mean, those types of things are capable. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.040 Their defense is what scares me the most. There there again, 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.320 their offense is a mess. It is a McAdoo got fired. 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.400 I mean, I don't think he got fired before the 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.720 way they handled the Eli Manning thing. I think he 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:11.839 got fired because they all year long, he he is 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:15.000 they they've they've had this problem of scoring points. He's 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.640 supposed to be this offensive coach. They score even when 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.160 they're healthy, they score fifteen points a game. He got 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:22.680 fired for a lot of things. I think the Eli 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.360 thing factored in because there's such outrage up there for 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:26.839 the way he was treated. But yeah, I mean, the 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.280 performance of the football team is the man. That's an 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.240 organization that doesn't fire. I mean, I think I think McVeagh. 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.360 I think McVeigh was the last coach that got John 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:40.280 McVeigh was the sparker. Ardsburg got fired. It was okay, 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.200 it was writer. I mean, yeah, he might have been 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.320 fired before. Right, See said something saying, though, this is 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.520 an organization that traditionally does not make these types of moves. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:50.240 So you're right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, Eli had 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.760 not been benched. Yeah, probably could have just finished out 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:54.640 the year. And they made a change in January, although 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.040 I hadn't even been on a coaching search because McAdoo 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.520 had been on that staff with Coughlin. Right, yeah, you 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.680 know what happened though, I think, and I don't know 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.000 if this happens a lot on teams, and all I 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:09.160 can say is for stuff that happened around here, I 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.400 think the players generally disliked the hit. That's true. I 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.760 think that I don't think they liked them. And I 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.840 think you're right, Mickey. It started who was it? Was 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.680 it DRC? Who was well, yeah, they had a couple 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.800 of guys. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, a lot of guys came 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.560 out and it was a very odd thing, and you 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.839 guys a lot of different coaches things. You know, the 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:30.880 first year, it felt like he was still player coach. 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.240 You know, he had kind of the loose, relaxed look. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.800 And I say that just from an outsider looking in, 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:37.960 and I'm saying this from his appearance. You know, he 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.680 wore kind of like the sweat jackets and did all 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:42.240 that and was just kind of like, hey, I'm just 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.160 here to coach ball. And then the second year, I 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.800 mean it was a joke that he slicked back his 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.240 hair back, this you know stance of hey, we're not 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.039 going to take crap from you guys, And I think 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.120 that's what you're right, Yeah, is that then the players 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.680 were like who are you? And publicly dressing down your 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.080 quarterback on multiple occasions, you know, the guy who's who's 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.760 built this thing on his back two super Bowls. I mean, 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.640 there's been outrage up there over the way Eli has 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:12.920 been treated, and I guarantee you that had a big 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.120 factor in why. You know, he never had answers for 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:16.880 his team as well. I mean we joked about it 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.920 the halftime thing when they said, well, what adjustments did 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.400 you make it halftime? But he goes just given the 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.240 Miles Austin. Yeah, what we're gonna say, Bran, I'm sorry. No, 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:29.720 I'm just gonna say, let's be thank you, Let's let's 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:32.400 be honest. Though, Eli Manning has not played very well 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.120 this year. No, and he hasn't. And and that's you know, 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:39.000 if if McAdoo would have handled things differently, you know, maybe, 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.400 but I don't think there's anybody that could say, boy, 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:44.680 you know you're benching a quarterback that's on a roll. 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:47.200 You know you're you're benching a guy that's been playing 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.680 pretty bad. I'm gonna go to his brother, Peyton Manning 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.000 and his last season with the Broncos, he was not 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:53.960 playing well. Of course, he got an injury, and then 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.440 you know, Brock Eiswiler was able to come in and 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:58.760 he was on a roll and he was doing well. 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.920 But if they would have bench Peyton Manning for that 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.320 Super Bowl to go with Brock the hot hand or 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.000 even throughout the playoffs. Well, they knew they had a 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.320 great defense. Yeah, that's true, that their their defense was 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:10.920 going to win that Super Bowl. What I'm saying it 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.960 was Peyton Manning esque. Well, it's never easy to look 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.120 what happened with the Cowboys. How many days do we 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.040 talk about Tony Romo never coming back? Well, yeah, I 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.240 mean that was You know, that's a difficult thing when 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.280 you're when your face your franchise is now no longer 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.640 the face of your franchise. Yeah. Rarely do quarterbacks get 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:32.680 to go out on their own terms, even the greatest. 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:35.760 I mean it really, Denver is the only Alway winning 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.240 a Super Bowl. You're right. And Peyton yeah last what 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.640 a couple of years ago. Right, But but he didn't 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:45.559 go out where he started. No, yeah, right, exactly, You're right. 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:48.480 I mean Eli's had had a tough season. But again, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.960 it's it also speaks to what's around him. We talked 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.920 about a week one. I mean the Giants have invested defensively, 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.880 a lot of money spent on that front four not 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.320 a lot of money and investment in the offensive line. 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.040 The running game is near the bottom of the league 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:02.920 this year. I think they're getting three point eight yards 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.079 of carry. So he needs help. And it doesn't help 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:06.719 that you don't have Beckham and those some of his 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.640 weapons as well. But it's always the quarterback's fault comes 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.880 with the dinner right, part of that part of the job. 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.560 But they're not scoring point No, they're not not what 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.559 and so what we were talking about the Cowboys getting 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.000 off to a fast start, their downfall has been getting 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.040 off to a slow start right offensively. I mean it 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.840 took him four or three and outs before they got 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:31.400 going right in this game that they won, and look 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:35.320 at what's happening in the other three first half. So yeah, 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.520 they've got to rectify that. If a strong coach and 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.960 a strong GM would have benched Eli Manning, and do 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:43.720 you think that would have I mean, they could have 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.240 come out and said he's not playing well, we're not 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.360 winning games. When we said that, I thought of Bill 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.079 Belichick and Robert Craft. Yeah, if they had benched him 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.920 for Davis Webb, I would have understood it because I 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.520 think you could have rationalized it as seasons over. Yeah, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.160 let's take the last month of evaluate this young guy. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.240 And because we're gonna have a top pick, maybe we 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:05.560 need to go draft a quarterback next spring. Let's evaluate 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:08.160 the guy we have. I know Jerry Reese, you know, 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.880 I mean I know him, and you know, I respect 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.640 what he's done. But the thing about it is, this 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.880 is not an easy job being a GM, because you 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:19.160 do have to make decisions like that, you know, just 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.240 so happens. The GM here is also the owner. He 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.920 had to make the decision on Tony Romo. Yeah, you 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.800 know that these decisions aren't easy, and everybody's like, oh, 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:29.839 you know, you're feeling sorry for the player and all that. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.600 The general managers the guy, like, you know what, they're 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.000 paid to make those decisions. If you feel like that 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.040 Eli Manning is not playing well enough, or any quarterbacks 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.160 not playing, or any players not playing well enough, you 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.160 know you you got to make a move. You gotta 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.560 go on. Well, don't you think the owners had a 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:48.160 hand in it? Though they did have a question, they 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.400 didn't have a visible here if any general manager worth 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:56.000 assault ownership? Yeah, hey, this is well all of a suddy. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.800 You think you have those meetings on Tuesday or Monday 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.280 maybe and you say, listen, and we need to figure 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.200 out what the situation is with Davis Webb. What's the 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.040 best way we can do this, and you know, the 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.520 ownership would go, we really want to do this, you know, 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.719 I mean, you know there's that, Yeah, you're back and 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.840 forth talk. But then Jerry Reese obviously, I mean, like 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.760 I say, Jerry Reese and Ben McAdoo are not making 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.640 a decision to bench Eli Manning. They're they're making a recommendation, 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.640 you know, Ben McAdoo maybe making a recommendation to Jerry Reese. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:31.920 Jerry Reese making a recommendation to Tish and to Dmera. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.400 I think Mara said publicly this week I could have 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:40.359 overruled it, I didn't. Yeah, so but they've skated. Yeah, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.120 they got a pass. I don't. I didn't see a 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.360 lot of people criticizing the owners, but they sure it 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.520 came down. Yeah, but is it But to me, I 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.480 don't put ownership on it, because isn't the owner's ownership. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.760 I mean, Jerry's different, he's the GM. These guys, what 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.920 kind of hands on are they because normally when when 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.320 this nineteen twenty five, they've been hands on. Okay, I 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.120 mean I just kind of feel like a lot of 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.160 this is a this is a unique situation with the 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.440 Cowboys with Jerry's role obviously, but a lot of owners 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.520 they just they let their gms handle business. And yeah, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:09.000 but it's changing. Yeah. But the thing about it is 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.120 when you when you're talking about it's not like you're 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.320 talking about somebody that's only been there two years and 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.320 you're making this call. You know, it's not like it's 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.599 like a guy that's been there. It's been your franchise, 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.840 Like you say, your face for fourteen years, might be 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.640 in the Hall of Fame, two Super Bowl rings. Yeah, 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.840 yeh know, it's not like the guy the owners living 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.880 in Paris and just has this toy here, you know, 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.959 kind of kind of the way the cowboys were at 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:35.480 the beginning. Yeah, you know, telegram to our owner out 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.400 there in Paris. Yeah, I'm very new. I mean back then, 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.800 that's what they knew. That's why it used to be. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.240 This was my little toy here, and I let the 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.160 general manager of the president run the team. Just tell 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.000 me how much money you need? Right, Well, things changed 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.560 when this became a business, a business. I wonder if 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:53.960 people didn't realize that there would be such an outcry 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.280 when Manning was benched. You know, maybe they thought, hey, 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.960 they'll understand he's not doing it if they even't thought 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.600 about that, you know, if the Giants, and I think 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.840 the Giants have dot com department very similar to ours. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.680 Oh we need to call John Yeah, oh yeah, I'm 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:12.839 I'm I'm I guarantee you. Though, their evaluation is that 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.200 they came out and they would say, hey, Manny's not 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.800 playing well, yeah, you know, something has to be done. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.840 And again it's about the quarterback. And there's no easy 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.960 way to do this. There's no easy way. It's no 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.600 just okay, hey, we're you know, it's it's said and done. Well, 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.320 if it's about the quarterback, though, then why is he 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.079 expected to start this week after one game and you 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.480 know it didn't play bad. Now, that's because because Spagnola 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.920 knows he can't. He's got four games left and he 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.120 can't lose the locker room. He's got to find a 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.160 way to raise what happened. Yeah, yeah, he lost the 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.600 locker room. And so now what Spagnola smartly has done 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:52.160 is because his own players. See, that's the thing coordinators 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.560 have different with the head coach. Players will talk to 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.080 the coordinators. Yeah, they'll come in an office and close 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.760 the door and talk to Marinelli, talk to you know 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.679 that you could get a better vibe as as an assistant, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.760 You get a better vibe than the head coach. Nobody 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.000 wants to go talk to the head coach. Yeah, everybody 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.839 wants to go talk to the assistant. Who's your position, coach? 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:13.240 You know that's you close? You walking there and close. Yeah, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:16.080 so Spagnolan knows talking to some defensive guys. Hey, what's 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.000 the mood in the locker room in there? Man? I 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.960 can't believe what they did to Eli. Yeah, we need 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.160 to fix that. Okay, let's do that. He's got to 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.960 get everybody back on the same page. Yeah, there's seasons lost, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.320 but Mickey's right, you're gonna get their best shot. I mean, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.520 you better be ready for their You better be ready 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.840 to withstand their best shot. Doubt about that. And it 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:36.480 might not be good enough on offense, but it could 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:41.040 be good enough on defense, surely could well. Hey, they 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.440 would attend seven game last year with Eli Manning playing. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:47.320 This was a team that was twelve and four last 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.680 year exactly. That's what I'm saying. A lot of that 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.920 defensive personnel's there and still healthy and still playing defensive front. Yeah. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.440 I don't see this as me being like, hey, sound 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.800 the alarm out. I'm just saying I've been in these 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.000 situations where guy get fired and in the last month 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.880 of the season, you're thinking, Okay, I've been getting a 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.760 check every Tuesday. It's been kind of nice. Well wait 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:09.560 a minute, I'm not going to have a contract next year. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.520 It happened. It happened here. The Cowboys finished started one 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.280 and seven, five and three, five and three down the 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.880 stretch and played a lot, a lot, got the head 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.400 coach the job. Yeah where did where did they win 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:27.640 their first game? Four fifteen Saturday Sunday? Right? Yes, yeah, Well, 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:29.360 you know, I just told you guys that the Giants 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:31.440 were twelve and four last season, but the Cowboys were 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.640 thirteen and three and we were sitting here a year 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.880 ago with the playoffs clenched, and now we're sitting here, 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.480 up and down, up and down. Of course, they won 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.560 on Thursday. The Eagles lost, and last week Rob and 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.200 I jokingly told you guys, hey, if the Eagles go 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.520 out and lose their next five games, Cowboys win their 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.440 next five games, the Cowboys can win the NFC East. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.160 One down, four to go. It's t shirt ready, four 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.360 to go? Who did the Eagles have this week MS 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.640 MS RAMS. So that's a great They stay out there too, 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.640 didn't they? Yeah, they did eight. I think they they 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.200 did this did out there. That's hard. Probably in Thousand Oaks, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:14.000 it's possible, or it's possible none. Where they're training. Someone 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.400 told me this. They're at the where the Angels play baseball. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.880 Oh okay, us nice. Well, maybe you know there'll be 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.080 some animosity. Jared Goff taken before Wentz. Wentz is like 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.200 I'm the MVP. Ice, Yes, get some talk going. Yeahoke 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.840 those flames story line here. I don't think Wentz is 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.720 the kindness you know, it's you know what, you needed 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.480 him again, you need him to beat Seattle to help you. 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.360 But but the problem you're going to get into is 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.480 you don't want to play in that last game. That's 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.080 part of your plan. You don't you want them to 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.040 have things kind of wrapped up. They're gonna have to 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.440 play that last That's what I'm saying. Minnesota is making 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.880 them have to play this game. Here's the other's real Yeah, yeah, 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:57.800 thank you, Yeah hot quarterback defense is great quarterback yes, well, 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.720 and they've got hand and they've got they've got the 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.320 rams in who's the other team. It's nine and three 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.080 the Saints. They're pretty then down their neck. The Saints 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:08.719 played Thursday United again. They the Saints can get they 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.800 can knock the Falcons down again. Here's the other thing 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.479 about it. We've seen the Cowboys a couple times in 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.240 recent years sit that last game doesn't pay off because 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:18.879 then your guys are wind up, you get two weeks 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:21.480 off essentially for your starters. There's some rust maybe there. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:24.960 And also if you're sitting there as the Eagles and 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.040 the Cowboys need to win to get in and you 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:29.159 got Zeke and it's a different football team, kind of 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:31.280 like when Rogers came back last year for the Packers 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.680 or the Eagles, and you're like, I don't want to 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:35.800 see these guys in January. Let's just knock them out 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.680 right now and treat it like a playoff game. So yeah, 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.880 I fully expect the Eagles to that one. I think 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:48.760 everybody's planned going forward was beat the Giants, beat the Raiders, 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.080 beat the Seahawks at home, and let's see what happens 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.080 in that last game, because if they don't have to play, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.000 you can win that game. I think that's what everybody's 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.200 planning in their mind. Now it's Minnesota is making this difficult. 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.359 The Saints can make the is difficult to Saints keep winning. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:04.920 They you know, the Saints. You're playing for home field too. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.679 Got the Seahawks win the other night. They're only a 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.760 half game back. They're eight and four. They're only a 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:16.160 half game behind old Rams No a game right, yeah, 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.320 game nine and three eight yea four. The thing about 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.080 it is, though you go out and lose a game, 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:24.640 it's over. Yeah, probably over. Yeah. So I mean because 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.439 China has got a two game lead on you too, 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.679 essentially with the tiebreaker. That's why then they I think 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.920 the head coach rubbed off on the owner because this 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:33.920 morning he said, I don't mean to sound like an 0:18:33.920 --> 0:18:36.200 owner when they asked him about winning five straight, and 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.479 he said, we got to focus on one play at 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.280 a time, one game at a time. It was great. 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:44.879 I loved it it. He goes, I know this is boring, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:46.840 but you're not going to get anything else to come 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.360 out of my mouth like insite anybody that, oh, yeah, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.080 we're gonna win this one and then we're gonna win 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.600 that one, and then we're gonna get Zike back. You know, 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.560 it's like you better go out and have a good 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:01.159 practice on Wednesday. And apparently I guess I was mistaken. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.320 And I'll just say this real quick before we go 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:06.480 to break, but they will not be flexing. The Cowboys 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.800 Readers game gonna stay at Sunday Night Football NBC. They 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.680 need those points. Yeah, yeah, Well, the Thursday night game 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.280 against the Redskins was the most watched Thursday Night game 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.280 of the season. I was had a good Thursday Night schedule, 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.639 though the league has done a better job right Thursday 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.399 night games good, but that was that was sixteen million 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.120 people watching. So, Sandy, you didn't like the Jacksonville, Tennessee game. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:30.800 There's been some good ones. That's some not so good. 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.119