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Speaker 1: Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brought It, Taylor Stern and
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It
Speaker 1: has been a minute since we've all been here, back
Speaker 1: with a normal week, getting ready for the Giants Cowboys
Speaker 1: game on Sunday. So how is everyone doing today Tuesday?
Speaker 1: Here at the Star? Great doing well? Back at it? Yep,
Speaker 1: back at it? Are you guys doing today? Guys? Good coach?
Speaker 1: Good coach? Garrett? How doing guys? How we doing? Here
Speaker 1: we go? Here we go. That's a coach who still
Speaker 1: has his job, unlike the Giants one. That's right. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people were talking this week. Of course,
Speaker 1: for those listening, the Giant did let go of Ben
Speaker 1: McAdoo and their GM Jerry Reese, who had been there
Speaker 1: a long time, and a lot of people are saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: this can go one way or the other. For the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Brad you're already shaking your head. Yes, you've
Speaker 1: seen this happen before in the NFL. What do you think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Steve Spagnula is going to take over. He was a
Speaker 1: head coach with the Saint Louis Rams wasn't successful at
Speaker 1: It's been a long time defensive coordinaty guy, kind of
Speaker 1: put together some really good game plans the last couple
Speaker 1: of years against the Cowboys. This one does worry me
Speaker 1: because now you're starting when you fire coaches, fire general managers,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, you put
Speaker 1: Eli Manning back in position to be the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: this week. I worry about this one. I do. And
Speaker 1: I was watching the Raiders tape this morning with the
Speaker 1: Giants defense, and you still have the guys you have
Speaker 1: to deal with with Olivier Vernon and Pierre Paul and Harrison,
Speaker 1: those guys. And this is one of those things where
Speaker 1: players the last month of the season now are playing
Speaker 1: for jobs and they're playing whether they need to be
Speaker 1: back or not, and coaches are the same way. You know,
Speaker 1: whoever the new GM is going to be is gonna
Speaker 1: come in. He's gonna evaluate the current staff that's still there,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna evaluate the players. So this this one
Speaker 1: for a team that's lost all these games and now
Speaker 1: they've got there kind of their leader back at quarterback.
Speaker 1: This could be a very, very difficult game for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I think there's two layers of this, and you spoke
Speaker 1: to both. Twenty ten was the last time this happened,
Speaker 1: really the only time in Jerry Jones's tenure that he's
Speaker 1: replaced a coach mid season, and you spoke to it.
Speaker 1: Back then, players were put on notice and they were
Speaker 1: playing for their jobs and performed a lot better in
Speaker 1: the second half of the season under Garrett, who eventually
Speaker 1: became the full time coach. The other the other layer
Speaker 1: to me is Eli Manning. Yeah, I really unfortunate and
Speaker 1: rare the way he was treated last week, and it
Speaker 1: sounded like based on Giants ownership, they were they were
Speaker 1: regretful of how that went down, and I could see
Speaker 1: this team rallying around him for everything he's meant to
Speaker 1: that organization. So on the flip side, the Cowboys still
Speaker 1: have what to play for, so they should be motivated,
Speaker 1: and they you know, they they're obviously still playing the
Speaker 1: best they can to before the best they can. They
Speaker 1: still have a bad offensive line, and they don't run
Speaker 1: the football all that well, and and they don't have
Speaker 1: great receivers on the edge, So that is a problem.
Speaker 1: Other than that, No, but that's it's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: for them to score points. Now, have you righted all
Speaker 1: your ills that you had from last the last few
Speaker 1: weeks of scoring points? Joe of hands, If you thought
Speaker 1: thirty eight spot was going to happen this Thursday night
Speaker 1: after putting three games twenty one, I think is what
Speaker 1: I thought they're gonna come. They're gonna come out all
Speaker 1: jacked up, all emotional, fired up, ready to play. And
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are gonna have to do withstand that
Speaker 1: first emotional assault. If you can just get through the
Speaker 1: first quarter, get into the second quarter, and get down
Speaker 1: to where the talent has to play out, then I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys will be fine. But unlike what happened
Speaker 1: to the Giants when the Cowboys changed head coaches, the
Speaker 1: cow Boys jumped out to a lead. Uh, they were up.
Speaker 1: I think it was like sixteen to three on that
Speaker 1: hundred and one yard interception returned by Brian McCann and
Speaker 1: and it just snowballed after that. So what you gotta
Speaker 1: do is withstand that first part and let them know, hey,
Speaker 1: we're here to play football and we're better than you
Speaker 1: and go back to being two and ten. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: if you don't, you're gonna you're gonna be in trouble. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this you're gonna get the Giant's best shot. Then it's
Speaker 1: like I said, Mickey's absolutely right, and you just got
Speaker 1: to withstand the early you know, there could be some
Speaker 1: early problems in this game. Especially again, it's they've still
Speaker 1: got a lot of the same defensive you know, mess
Speaker 1: around at landing, Collins hits you in a pile and
Speaker 1: also the ball comes flying out of there you don't
Speaker 1: block him, yeah, or you don't block or you know,
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paulson comes running down the back side and
Speaker 1: you know, and grabs Alfred Moore's for no gain on
Speaker 1: third down. I mean, those types of things are capable.
Speaker 1: Their defense is what scares me the most. There there again,
Speaker 1: their offense is a mess. It is a McAdoo got fired.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think he got fired before the
Speaker 1: way they handled the Eli Manning thing. I think he
Speaker 1: got fired because they all year long, he he is
Speaker 1: they they've they've had this problem of scoring points. He's
Speaker 1: supposed to be this offensive coach. They score even when
Speaker 1: they're healthy, they score fifteen points a game. He got
Speaker 1: fired for a lot of things. I think the Eli
Speaker 1: thing factored in because there's such outrage up there for
Speaker 1: the way he was treated. But yeah, I mean, the
Speaker 1: performance of the football team is the man. That's an
Speaker 1: organization that doesn't fire. I mean, I think I think McVeagh.
Speaker 1: I think McVeigh was the last coach that got John
Speaker 1: McVeigh was the sparker. Ardsburg got fired. It was okay,
Speaker 1: it was writer. I mean, yeah, he might have been
Speaker 1: fired before. Right, See said something saying, though, this is
Speaker 1: an organization that traditionally does not make these types of moves.
Speaker 1: So you're right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, Eli had
Speaker 1: not been benched. Yeah, probably could have just finished out
Speaker 1: the year. And they made a change in January, although
Speaker 1: I hadn't even been on a coaching search because McAdoo
Speaker 1: had been on that staff with Coughlin. Right, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what happened though, I think, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if this happens a lot on teams, and all I
Speaker 1: can say is for stuff that happened around here, I
Speaker 1: think the players generally disliked the hit. That's true. I
Speaker 1: think that I don't think they liked them. And I
Speaker 1: think you're right, Mickey. It started who was it? Was
Speaker 1: it DRC? Who was well, yeah, they had a couple
Speaker 1: of guys. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, a lot of guys came
Speaker 1: out and it was a very odd thing, and you
Speaker 1: guys a lot of different coaches things. You know, the
Speaker 1: first year, it felt like he was still player coach.
Speaker 1: You know, he had kind of the loose, relaxed look.
Speaker 1: And I say that just from an outsider looking in,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying this from his appearance. You know, he
Speaker 1: wore kind of like the sweat jackets and did all
Speaker 1: that and was just kind of like, hey, I'm just
Speaker 1: here to coach ball. And then the second year, I
Speaker 1: mean it was a joke that he slicked back his
Speaker 1: hair back, this you know stance of hey, we're not
Speaker 1: going to take crap from you guys, And I think
Speaker 1: that's what you're right, Yeah, is that then the players
Speaker 1: were like who are you? And publicly dressing down your
Speaker 1: quarterback on multiple occasions, you know, the guy who's who's
Speaker 1: built this thing on his back two super Bowls. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's been outrage up there over the way Eli has
Speaker 1: been treated, and I guarantee you that had a big
Speaker 1: factor in why. You know, he never had answers for
Speaker 1: his team as well. I mean we joked about it
Speaker 1: the halftime thing when they said, well, what adjustments did
Speaker 1: you make it halftime? But he goes just given the
Speaker 1: Miles Austin. Yeah, what we're gonna say, Bran, I'm sorry. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, let's be thank you, Let's let's
Speaker 1: be honest. Though, Eli Manning has not played very well
Speaker 1: this year. No, and he hasn't. And and that's you know,
Speaker 1: if if McAdoo would have handled things differently, you know, maybe,
Speaker 1: but I don't think there's anybody that could say, boy,
Speaker 1: you know you're benching a quarterback that's on a roll.
Speaker 1: You know you're you're benching a guy that's been playing
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I'm gonna go to his brother, Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: and his last season with the Broncos, he was not
Speaker 1: playing well. Of course, he got an injury, and then
Speaker 1: you know, Brock Eiswiler was able to come in and
Speaker 1: he was on a roll and he was doing well.
Speaker 1: But if they would have bench Peyton Manning for that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl to go with Brock the hot hand or
Speaker 1: even throughout the playoffs. Well, they knew they had a
Speaker 1: great defense. Yeah, that's true, that their their defense was
Speaker 1: going to win that Super Bowl. What I'm saying it
Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning esque. Well, it's never easy to look
Speaker 1: what happened with the Cowboys. How many days do we
Speaker 1: talk about Tony Romo never coming back? Well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that was You know, that's a difficult thing when
Speaker 1: you're when your face your franchise is now no longer
Speaker 1: the face of your franchise. Yeah. Rarely do quarterbacks get
Speaker 1: to go out on their own terms, even the greatest.
Speaker 1: I mean it really, Denver is the only Alway winning
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. You're right. And Peyton yeah last what
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Right, But but he didn't
Speaker 1: go out where he started. No, yeah, right, exactly, You're right.
Speaker 1: I mean Eli's had had a tough season. But again,
Speaker 1: it's it also speaks to what's around him. We talked
Speaker 1: about a week one. I mean the Giants have invested defensively,
Speaker 1: a lot of money spent on that front four not
Speaker 1: a lot of money and investment in the offensive line.
Speaker 1: The running game is near the bottom of the league
Speaker 1: this year. I think they're getting three point eight yards
Speaker 1: of carry. So he needs help. And it doesn't help
Speaker 1: that you don't have Beckham and those some of his
Speaker 1: weapons as well. But it's always the quarterback's fault comes
Speaker 1: with the dinner right, part of that part of the job.
Speaker 1: But they're not scoring point No, they're not not what
Speaker 1: and so what we were talking about the Cowboys getting
Speaker 1: off to a fast start, their downfall has been getting
Speaker 1: off to a slow start right offensively. I mean it
Speaker 1: took him four or three and outs before they got
Speaker 1: going right in this game that they won, and look
Speaker 1: at what's happening in the other three first half. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they've got to rectify that. If a strong coach and
Speaker 1: a strong GM would have benched Eli Manning, and do
Speaker 1: you think that would have I mean, they could have
Speaker 1: come out and said he's not playing well, we're not
Speaker 1: winning games. When we said that, I thought of Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick and Robert Craft. Yeah, if they had benched him
Speaker 1: for Davis Webb, I would have understood it because I
Speaker 1: think you could have rationalized it as seasons over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's take the last month of evaluate this young guy.
Speaker 1: And because we're gonna have a top pick, maybe we
Speaker 1: need to go draft a quarterback next spring. Let's evaluate
Speaker 1: the guy we have. I know Jerry Reese, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean I know him, and you know, I respect
Speaker 1: what he's done. But the thing about it is, this
Speaker 1: is not an easy job being a GM, because you
Speaker 1: do have to make decisions like that, you know, just
Speaker 1: so happens. The GM here is also the owner. He
Speaker 1: had to make the decision on Tony Romo. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know that these decisions aren't easy, and everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, you're feeling sorry for the player and all that.
Speaker 1: The general managers the guy, like, you know what, they're
Speaker 1: paid to make those decisions. If you feel like that
Speaker 1: Eli Manning is not playing well enough, or any quarterbacks
Speaker 1: not playing, or any players not playing well enough, you
Speaker 1: know you you got to make a move. You gotta
Speaker 1: go on. Well, don't you think the owners had a
Speaker 1: hand in it? Though they did have a question, they
Speaker 1: didn't have a visible here if any general manager worth
Speaker 1: assault ownership? Yeah, hey, this is well all of a suddy.
Speaker 1: You think you have those meetings on Tuesday or Monday
Speaker 1: maybe and you say, listen, and we need to figure
Speaker 1: out what the situation is with Davis Webb. What's the
Speaker 1: best way we can do this, and you know, the
Speaker 1: ownership would go, we really want to do this, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know there's that, Yeah, you're back and
Speaker 1: forth talk. But then Jerry Reese obviously, I mean, like
Speaker 1: I say, Jerry Reese and Ben McAdoo are not making
Speaker 1: a decision to bench Eli Manning. They're they're making a recommendation,
Speaker 1: you know, Ben McAdoo maybe making a recommendation to Jerry Reese.
Speaker 1: Jerry Reese making a recommendation to Tish and to Dmera.
Speaker 1: I think Mara said publicly this week I could have
Speaker 1: overruled it, I didn't. Yeah, so but they've skated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got a pass. I don't. I didn't see a
Speaker 1: lot of people criticizing the owners, but they sure it
Speaker 1: came down. Yeah, but is it But to me, I
Speaker 1: don't put ownership on it, because isn't the owner's ownership.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry's different, he's the GM. These guys, what
Speaker 1: kind of hands on are they because normally when when
Speaker 1: this nineteen twenty five, they've been hands on. Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean I just kind of feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: this is a this is a unique situation with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys with Jerry's role obviously, but a lot of owners
Speaker 1: they just they let their gms handle business. And yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's changing. Yeah. But the thing about it is
Speaker 1: when you when you're talking about it's not like you're
Speaker 1: talking about somebody that's only been there two years and
Speaker 1: you're making this call. You know, it's not like it's
Speaker 1: like a guy that's been there. It's been your franchise,
Speaker 1: Like you say, your face for fourteen years, might be
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, two Super Bowl rings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeh know, it's not like the guy the owners living
Speaker 1: in Paris and just has this toy here, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of kind of the way the cowboys were at
Speaker 1: the beginning. Yeah, you know, telegram to our owner out
Speaker 1: there in Paris. Yeah, I'm very new. I mean back then,
Speaker 1: that's what they knew. That's why it used to be.
Speaker 1: This was my little toy here, and I let the
Speaker 1: general manager of the president run the team. Just tell
Speaker 1: me how much money you need? Right, Well, things changed
Speaker 1: when this became a business, a business. I wonder if
Speaker 1: people didn't realize that there would be such an outcry
Speaker 1: when Manning was benched. You know, maybe they thought, hey,
Speaker 1: they'll understand he's not doing it if they even't thought
Speaker 1: about that, you know, if the Giants, and I think
Speaker 1: the Giants have dot com department very similar to ours.
Speaker 1: Oh we need to call John Yeah, oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I guarantee you. Though, their evaluation is that
Speaker 1: they came out and they would say, hey, Manny's not
Speaker 1: playing well, yeah, you know, something has to be done.
Speaker 1: And again it's about the quarterback. And there's no easy
Speaker 1: way to do this. There's no easy way. It's no
Speaker 1: just okay, hey, we're you know, it's it's said and done. Well,
Speaker 1: if it's about the quarterback, though, then why is he
Speaker 1: expected to start this week after one game and you
Speaker 1: know it didn't play bad. Now, that's because because Spagnola
Speaker 1: knows he can't. He's got four games left and he
Speaker 1: can't lose the locker room. He's got to find a
Speaker 1: way to raise what happened. Yeah, yeah, he lost the
Speaker 1: locker room. And so now what Spagnola smartly has done
Speaker 1: is because his own players. See, that's the thing coordinators
Speaker 1: have different with the head coach. Players will talk to
Speaker 1: the coordinators. Yeah, they'll come in an office and close
Speaker 1: the door and talk to Marinelli, talk to you know
Speaker 1: that you could get a better vibe as as an assistant,
Speaker 1: You get a better vibe than the head coach. Nobody
Speaker 1: wants to go talk to the head coach. Yeah, everybody
Speaker 1: wants to go talk to the assistant. Who's your position, coach?
Speaker 1: You know that's you close? You walking there and close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Spagnolan knows talking to some defensive guys. Hey, what's
Speaker 1: the mood in the locker room in there? Man? I
Speaker 1: can't believe what they did to Eli. Yeah, we need
Speaker 1: to fix that. Okay, let's do that. He's got to
Speaker 1: get everybody back on the same page. Yeah, there's seasons lost,
Speaker 1: but Mickey's right, you're gonna get their best shot. I mean,
Speaker 1: you better be ready for their You better be ready
Speaker 1: to withstand their best shot. Doubt about that. And it
Speaker 1: might not be good enough on offense, but it could
Speaker 1: be good enough on defense, surely could well. Hey, they
Speaker 1: would attend seven game last year with Eli Manning playing.
Speaker 1: This was a team that was twelve and four last
Speaker 1: year exactly. That's what I'm saying. A lot of that
Speaker 1: defensive personnel's there and still healthy and still playing defensive front. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't see this as me being like, hey, sound
Speaker 1: the alarm out. I'm just saying I've been in these
Speaker 1: situations where guy get fired and in the last month
Speaker 1: of the season, you're thinking, Okay, I've been getting a
Speaker 1: check every Tuesday. It's been kind of nice. Well wait
Speaker 1: a minute, I'm not going to have a contract next year.
Speaker 1: It happened. It happened here. The Cowboys finished started one
Speaker 1: and seven, five and three, five and three down the
Speaker 1: stretch and played a lot, a lot, got the head
Speaker 1: coach the job. Yeah where did where did they win
Speaker 1: their first game? Four fifteen Saturday Sunday? Right? Yes, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I just told you guys that the Giants
Speaker 1: were twelve and four last season, but the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: thirteen and three and we were sitting here a year
Speaker 1: ago with the playoffs clenched, and now we're sitting here,
Speaker 1: up and down, up and down. Of course, they won
Speaker 1: on Thursday. The Eagles lost, and last week Rob and
Speaker 1: I jokingly told you guys, hey, if the Eagles go
Speaker 1: out and lose their next five games, Cowboys win their
Speaker 1: next five games, the Cowboys can win the NFC East.
Speaker 1: One down, four to go. It's t shirt ready, four
Speaker 1: to go? Who did the Eagles have this week MS
Speaker 1: MS RAMS. So that's a great They stay out there too,
Speaker 1: didn't they? Yeah, they did eight. I think they they
Speaker 1: did this did out there. That's hard. Probably in Thousand Oaks,
Speaker 1: it's possible, or it's possible none. Where they're training. Someone
Speaker 1: told me this. They're at the where the Angels play baseball.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, us nice. Well, maybe you know there'll be
Speaker 1: some animosity. Jared Goff taken before Wentz. Wentz is like
Speaker 1: I'm the MVP. Ice, Yes, get some talk going. Yeahoke
Speaker 1: those flames story line here. I don't think Wentz is
Speaker 1: the kindness you know, it's you know what, you needed
Speaker 1: him again, you need him to beat Seattle to help you.
Speaker 1: But but the problem you're going to get into is
Speaker 1: you don't want to play in that last game. That's
Speaker 1: part of your plan. You don't you want them to
Speaker 1: have things kind of wrapped up. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: play that last That's what I'm saying. Minnesota is making
Speaker 1: them have to play this game. Here's the other's real Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah hot quarterback defense is great quarterback yes, well,
Speaker 1: and they've got hand and they've got they've got the
Speaker 1: rams in who's the other team. It's nine and three
Speaker 1: the Saints. They're pretty then down their neck. The Saints
Speaker 1: played Thursday United again. They the Saints can get they
Speaker 1: can knock the Falcons down again. Here's the other thing
Speaker 1: about it. We've seen the Cowboys a couple times in
Speaker 1: recent years sit that last game doesn't pay off because
Speaker 1: then your guys are wind up, you get two weeks
Speaker 1: off essentially for your starters. There's some rust maybe there.
Speaker 1: And also if you're sitting there as the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need to win to get in and you
Speaker 1: got Zeke and it's a different football team, kind of
Speaker 1: like when Rogers came back last year for the Packers
Speaker 1: or the Eagles, and you're like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see these guys in January. Let's just knock them out
Speaker 1: right now and treat it like a playoff game. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I fully expect the Eagles to that one. I think
Speaker 1: everybody's planned going forward was beat the Giants, beat the Raiders,
Speaker 1: beat the Seahawks at home, and let's see what happens
Speaker 1: in that last game, because if they don't have to play,
Speaker 1: you can win that game. I think that's what everybody's
Speaker 1: planning in their mind. Now it's Minnesota is making this difficult.
Speaker 1: The Saints can make the is difficult to Saints keep winning.
Speaker 1: They you know, the Saints. You're playing for home field too.
Speaker 1: Got the Seahawks win the other night. They're only a
Speaker 1: half game back. They're eight and four. They're only a
Speaker 1: half game behind old Rams No a game right, yeah,
Speaker 1: game nine and three eight yea four. The thing about
Speaker 1: it is, though you go out and lose a game,
Speaker 1: it's over. Yeah, probably over. Yeah. So I mean because
Speaker 1: China has got a two game lead on you too,
Speaker 1: essentially with the tiebreaker. That's why then they I think
Speaker 1: the head coach rubbed off on the owner because this
Speaker 1: morning he said, I don't mean to sound like an
Speaker 1: owner when they asked him about winning five straight, and
Speaker 1: he said, we got to focus on one play at
Speaker 1: a time, one game at a time. It was great.
Speaker 1: I loved it it. He goes, I know this is boring,
Speaker 1: but you're not going to get anything else to come
Speaker 1: out of my mouth like insite anybody that, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna win this one and then we're gonna win
Speaker 1: that one, and then we're gonna get Zike back. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like you better go out and have a good
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. And apparently I guess I was mistaken.
Speaker 1: And I'll just say this real quick before we go
Speaker 1: to break, but they will not be flexing. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: Readers game gonna stay at Sunday Night Football NBC. They
Speaker 1: need those points. Yeah, yeah, Well, the Thursday night game
Speaker 1: against the Redskins was the most watched Thursday Night game
Speaker 1: of the season. I was had a good Thursday Night schedule,
Speaker 1: though the league has done a better job right Thursday
Speaker 1: night games good, but that was that was sixteen million
Speaker 1: people watching. So, Sandy, you didn't like the Jacksonville, Tennessee game.
Speaker 1: There's been some good ones. That's some not so good.
Speaker 1: Decision winner, Okay, give them truth truth. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: Well let's take our first break here in the SUBBC
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Speaker 1: my high school game, and she was on. I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: Sean Lee back in the lineup this week. What do
Speaker 1: you think of it? Robert, It's looking like that's the case,
Speaker 1: I'm going to see how he practices, but the expectation
Speaker 1: sounds like Wednesday he should be pretty full go. He's
Speaker 1: been pointing to this. I think those that three games
Speaker 1: in twelve days was too much to ask. Yeah, i
Speaker 1: think they've been pointing to this for a while, and
Speaker 1: it would be big to get him back. You know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys with Lee in the lineup in the opener
Speaker 1: against the Giants, those three points allowed, lowest of the season,
Speaker 1: lowest of the Giants season. So hey, can they replicate
Speaker 1: that with him in the lineup. The way that the
Speaker 1: lack of second level blocking for the Giants will be
Speaker 1: a huge factor for their inability, I mean they will
Speaker 1: be a factor for them. They won't be able to
Speaker 1: block Shan Lee. I really don't think they will because again,
Speaker 1: they just do not get guys up. I mean they're
Speaker 1: fighting with guys along the line of scrimmage or a
Speaker 1: push shove group kind of billy to billy kind of
Speaker 1: try and push you around group, and they're really not
Speaker 1: good at that. And so Sean Lee let him run free.
Speaker 1: We all know that Sean Lee will make thirteen tackles
Speaker 1: in this game. Trust me. The way that the way
Speaker 1: that the Giants block, it's gonna be a problem for him,
Speaker 1: It really will be. Then Hitchens I'll have ten, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith will have eight, and then Marcus Lawrence will
Speaker 1: be back with the sex. There you go, keep that lead. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that that that is that I mean yeah, because cha
Speaker 1: Chad Wheeler, who's been playing right tackle for them. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say this is awful. He really is. He's awful,
Speaker 1: and it's a problem. And you feel bad for Eli
Speaker 1: Manning in them. I mean the way they're taking hits
Speaker 1: and stuff. But every time he has to step up
Speaker 1: in the pocket, it's generally Chad Wheeler on that right side.
Speaker 1: And that's what I go back to with the Eli decision,
Speaker 1: Like is he really the problem? Like I mean, well,
Speaker 1: I mean I get maybe you can make throws under pressure,
Speaker 1: you know, but not maybe not this much pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And they don't have a running game they can lean on.
Speaker 1: They're bet the best, their best. Their best runner, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, is Wayne Gallman, the kid they drafted in
Speaker 1: the fourth round out of Clemson. They don't hand him
Speaker 1: the ball. They have four backs at play and they
Speaker 1: all kind of I don't know why Gallman he's the
Speaker 1: best one at since you can give him a nickname,
Speaker 1: Gallop and Gallman. Yeah, yeah, but the jack rabbit on
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. Yeah, that's what they're problem.
Speaker 1: That's that's but their their problems have been this offensive
Speaker 1: line they have. They have no identity other than bad.
Speaker 1: That's their idea. We're bad. So do you think, uh,
Speaker 1: since you mentioned Sean Lee, what do you think about Scandrid?
Speaker 1: He was able to finish well, he didn't finish did
Speaker 1: he didn't like the leg end. He came out of
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and he was walking awfully, gingerly after
Speaker 1: the game. So, I don't know. I Garrett didn't sound
Speaker 1: like he was going to practice tomorrow tomorrow for sure,
Speaker 1: maybe by the end of the week. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm able to make it. I'm kind of half.
Speaker 1: I think he missed my arm, like I think he
Speaker 1: misses one. Yeah, Tony missed one, same injury. Yeah, for position.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If that Tony didn't have to tackle, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say I would say he's probably not gonna play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we'll see. They'll they'll match things up. I mean
Speaker 1: they did it last but we saw what happened last week.
Speaker 1: What did they do to put Xavier Woods in the slot? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and put somebody on the outside. That's what they'll do it.
Speaker 1: It'll come down to either or Anthony Brown Brown, because
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown the slot. Jason brought his name up when
Speaker 1: somebody asked it as well, we do have Anthony Brown, yeah,
Speaker 1: Ben Wickery, yes, so yeah, don't don't count that out either.
Speaker 1: Giants have a hard time throwing the ball. They do.
Speaker 1: They did no receivers, no line quarterback gets hit every play. Still,
Speaker 1: now we got to watch him because of the defense
Speaker 1: we do. Dude, let's go to the phone lines. We
Speaker 1: have Elvis from Midland on the line. Well, I thought
Speaker 1: you said Elvis from Memphis. I was being a little
Speaker 1: impressed there this. Well you got yes, yes, sir, it
Speaker 1: looks like to me. And again, I'm just sitting on
Speaker 1: my couch watching. But the receiver routes are predictable occasionally
Speaker 1: days is in the slot. Well what I'm looking for
Speaker 1: is maybe get this receiver stack like they do in
Speaker 1: Arizona where they're stacked three deep. Um, I just don't
Speaker 1: think our receivers can be can be covered like a
Speaker 1: lot of teams beating Dallas with over the middle and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So you can just comment on changing
Speaker 1: the receiver routes and the stacks up. Thanks. I mean
Speaker 1: I've seen him stack the receiver and they just kind
Speaker 1: of scatter, bunch, bunch scatter. Yeah, they've been going three left,
Speaker 1: three right. Take up into the last game last week.
Speaker 1: That does have been put in the slot, like one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight times in the slot quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. See,
Speaker 1: I think that there's a perception out there that he's
Speaker 1: always on the outside right, runs the same route all
Speaker 1: the time, right, and it's not the case. Not the case.
Speaker 1: He does run It seems like he does run better
Speaker 1: routes against the Redskins. He's got those down the ends, slants,
Speaker 1: the curls, things like that. They need more of that. Well,
Speaker 1: the routes get better when the production gets better. That's
Speaker 1: fair too, that's like we will score more points. No,
Speaker 1: And he saw what he did the fifty fifty ball
Speaker 1: that went up. I mean he went and gout and
Speaker 1: it was a good pass, but you know how it
Speaker 1: was a catchable ball. Well you know how, you know
Speaker 1: why I thought it worked out well for him. He
Speaker 1: won off the line of scrimmage. He won, He won
Speaker 1: the route. Now he gives himself an opportunity to go
Speaker 1: and find the mark and then go get the ball
Speaker 1: when he's fighting with people and then having to go
Speaker 1: and try and find the ball doesn't work out for
Speaker 1: him all the time. That was Derek Dooley's pet peeve
Speaker 1: when he got here with Dez Bryant. You got to
Speaker 1: get off the line of scrimmage. You can't be sitting
Speaker 1: there muscling your way around. And by time that happens,
Speaker 1: the quarterback says, oh, he's eliminated and they move on
Speaker 1: from you. Right. You got to get off the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, yep, absolutely absolutely, And then what other there's
Speaker 1: should be one? Oh, Dax hand. So we took care
Speaker 1: of Dax's hand. We got Sean Lee in there, got
Speaker 1: scan Drek already questionable far they practice right, yeah, anybody else,
Speaker 1: everybody else good. Got your offensive lineman a little banged
Speaker 1: up still, I'm sure probably, I'm sure this did wonders
Speaker 1: for Tyrn Smith. Yeah, yeah, but it's something he's probably
Speaker 1: managing through throughout the rest of the n LC. He's
Speaker 1: going to manage the problem, I mean, but it's his growing.
Speaker 1: That was the bothering him, not the back. It was
Speaker 1: his growing this time. See the thing about it is
Speaker 1: too these players see what's ahead. Yeah, the calendars now
Speaker 1: switched to December. They know there's four weeks. So we've
Speaker 1: had It's been a long campaign for going you know.
Speaker 1: I mean we were in a Hall of Fame game,
Speaker 1: right so, I mean it's been a long campaign. It
Speaker 1: seems like a year ago. Yeah, so you really you
Speaker 1: really have to suck it up the last four games
Speaker 1: of the season. You're actually you're playing for something. You're
Speaker 1: playing to try and get in the tournament. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could be San Francisco or Cleveland or one of
Speaker 1: these other teams. I mean, heck, think about what they're
Speaker 1: going through in Kansas City right now, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're you're thinking, how we just get a damn win.
Speaker 1: You know Marcus Peters who threw the flag because he
Speaker 1: was just more shot too good throw get it into
Speaker 1: the stands. He did. But yeah, but that's insane, Alex
Speaker 1: Mac players. Players know their bodies are hurting, but they
Speaker 1: will gut it up for four weeks. I feel like
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford is a great example of that. For the
Speaker 1: past two seas. Absolutely, yes, you know he always knows.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is another great example for that. I mean,
Speaker 1: all of these guys are playing through something. You're getting
Speaker 1: beat up all throughout the season. Dack's hand is going
Speaker 1: to be a problem until you know they finally you know,
Speaker 1: he gets to rest it. Now, someone who who might
Speaker 1: be more rested than others is who's wherever he's sitting
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott two games now? Is it crazy to think
Speaker 1: we've already gone through four games? That's why the season flies? Oh,
Speaker 1: it seems like it because they lost three of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: lost three of them. Mickey was nicky, was looking at
Speaker 1: this picture of him framed on his desk. Ye. One
Speaker 1: to ten shape factor for Zeke. I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be good. Ten being the high shape factor, ready
Speaker 1: to go. One being Brian, you get out there and
Speaker 1: carry the ball. Oh I don't think that's the option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be eight to ten range. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be some of the best you've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Are you're asking that, Brian because I earned about it? No,
Speaker 1: I'm asking, Yes, he is, I'm just asking. I'm asking
Speaker 1: because we're all we've all kind of taken the our
Speaker 1: little baskets and kind of walked down the street and
Speaker 1: we're just kind of like, put all those legs in him.
Speaker 1: Let's hope, and he's gonna come back, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be like that's as he call it. I hope, So,
Speaker 1: I hope, So Tay, I think, but we haven't seen
Speaker 1: a guy that has a whole hell of a lot
Speaker 1: of discipline. I know. I mean, we're not exactly talking
Speaker 1: about you know, do you think he's learned his lesson?
Speaker 1: That's a hard question. It is a hard question, but
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe they put him in solitary
Speaker 1: confinement somewhere. Seems time out for six weeks, work out
Speaker 1: time out. Well, when he reported to camp, what do
Speaker 1: you think about his conditioning, how he looked, Because that's
Speaker 1: after an offseason and I know, okay, you're through OTAs
Speaker 1: in mini camp, but then you have about five weeks away.
Speaker 1: My running back wears two hoodies, a turtleneck and he
Speaker 1: wears all those stuffs are practicing, Yeah, they're signed, an
Speaker 1: extra sweat kind of thing. Always are kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit of a concern. I don't. I hate the
Speaker 1: rule that you can't be I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair to any team, and no matter what type
Speaker 1: of suspension, but because it's you can't be around, you
Speaker 1: can't have that environment. But I'm not that concerned that
Speaker 1: he's going to be way out of shape. No, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, the torious slow starter worried about
Speaker 1: six weeks Mickey, the torious slow starter. It looks like
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons we've had him. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there was a reason. The first year he missed all
Speaker 1: the training camp with a hamstring. Hamstring playing him in
Speaker 1: a game. Sure, I don't know if he started slow
Speaker 1: this year. I think we've we've given credit to those
Speaker 1: those opponents months. Sure, I thought he was pressing the
Speaker 1: hole trying to make plays in those games. Oh line,
Speaker 1: I mean he got hit by the high A lot
Speaker 1: of scrimmage a lot. Yeah, So you're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: Though we're counting on these last two games of the season,
Speaker 1: he's gonna put up one fifty and and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be backed exactly the way they were. Well, did I
Speaker 1: ask you guys this question? To ask you the other
Speaker 1: day when you were on Mickey, if you're out of
Speaker 1: the playoffs, to you even play him, Yes, I think
Speaker 1: you do. Try to finish strong. Yes, I feel like
Speaker 1: you would. And I say that because you know, you
Speaker 1: would kind of have the idea of like, hey, you
Speaker 1: got a good back, you gotta use your back. You know,
Speaker 1: I just give I would give Rod Smith the games
Speaker 1: to see find out about him, find out about him.
Speaker 1: If you're out of the playoffs, you know, maybe even
Speaker 1: give maybe give Cooper Rush a game if you're out
Speaker 1: of it. If you're out of it, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's the head coaches. I'm just telling you, though,
Speaker 1: I don't want to go in I wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: go into two thousand and eighty. Chaz Green a shot too,
Speaker 1: sit tyrant Smith? Yeah why not? If you're gonna play
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, you're gonna play Noah Brown? Yeah? Why not?
Speaker 1: How about all those defensive backs too, they're already playing.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about start them. They already are, Start
Speaker 1: all of them. They're they're playing. They're starting. Good thought.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know if I mean no, no,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I hope this is a playoff run.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, would you how terrible would you
Speaker 1: feel in a meaningless week fifteen games. You realize, since
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, we've only known twice that the
Speaker 1: season's going to be over before. Oh no, I know,
Speaker 1: the last game of the season years ten and twenty
Speaker 1: fifteen parody. Oh, it's not parody. They've been They've been
Speaker 1: right at the edge all those years. Now. I know
Speaker 1: they didn't win a Super Bowl, and I know that's
Speaker 1: the bottom line, but think about it. We couldn't plan
Speaker 1: our lives any of those years, but twice. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: are you trying to plan right now? You realize for
Speaker 1: the last fifty ski have won at least ten games.
Speaker 1: Mickey's trying to get that Missouri game. Imagine, Mick, if
Speaker 1: you're sitting up in foxb bro, you for the last
Speaker 1: fifteen years, you've always won ten games in your season.
Speaker 1: You could just book it skiing in February. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in super Bowls sometimes too, right, Yeah, sometimes you
Speaker 1: gotta wait till mid February. Yeah, you're going at the
Speaker 1: spring break point. Yeah. I saw that today. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I just I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful, We're all I think we're all hopeful that
Speaker 1: they But I'm Also, I'm also from the school of
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not afraid to let a guys,
Speaker 1: a couple of guys be inactive for those games. If
Speaker 1: I could get twenty eighteen off to a healthy start,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if if and we're going way
Speaker 1: hypothetical here, but like, if you get to week seventeen
Speaker 1: and the Eagles have it wrapped up and they're not
Speaker 1: playing anybody, Okay, maybe I could see that, but I'm
Speaker 1: focusing on having a great Tuesday. Are you trying to
Speaker 1: beat those giants? Because it's not sure you know you
Speaker 1: should and I don't. I didn't. I didn't say it
Speaker 1: was over. I didn't say it was over at all.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. It to me, it's it's one
Speaker 1: of those things you got to kind of, you know
Speaker 1: if it if it gets to that, then you have
Speaker 1: to kind of plan ahead. It didn't happen at the
Speaker 1: end of the twenty fifteen season, did it. What Just
Speaker 1: play guys, Just play guys. Well, you bench Moore in
Speaker 1: there because he was the best option was Toyer and
Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell, and those guys were in there. At the end.
Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell got an interception again, fantasy chiefs. Hey, coach,
Speaker 1: but this is the way I like to do it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Coach Marinelli there oh yeah, yeah, I didn't last long.
Speaker 1: Not don't buy in your out? Yeah, I mean who
Speaker 1: who did they bench to put in? H Kellen Moore?
Speaker 1: Matt Castle? Yeah, after the most bosire. It was one
Speaker 1: of the guys that helped the Patriots get a ten
Speaker 1: win season with the Jets game an interception that was
Speaker 1: trying to throw it away and he threw it right
Speaker 1: to the guy intentional grounding on interception, probably a league
Speaker 1: first ever. Yeah, I think you're there was no receiver,
Speaker 1: they're just a just a defensive back. Is that what happened?
Speaker 1: It was falling backwards, trying to throw it out of bounds,
Speaker 1: and he threw it to the dB who returned it.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, there was no
Speaker 1: receiver there, throw a flash. What a time to spend
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Speaker 1: the playoffs for a week, four weeks, once once a
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Speaker 1: You say they don't or no. I'm just taking whatever
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Speaker 1: that in mind, Brian. Yeah, if you just go to
Speaker 1: the distribution and this thing keeps going into January. The
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Speaker 1: it the Rob's Twitter poll. Yes, it's been a minute
Speaker 1: since we had one of these, and the third time
Speaker 1: I've heard that today. Oh, it's been a minute. That's
Speaker 1: not so Hey, everybody's feeling better about the team after
Speaker 1: last Thursday one. Huh got a twenty four point in
Speaker 1: against your rival. You're not out of this playoff thing yet,
Speaker 1: so okay, four got Piza riding on it. Yeah, Pizza's
Speaker 1: riding on it. Which area of the team do you
Speaker 1: feel best about now heading into December? Simple? Pole, offense,
Speaker 1: defense or special teams. You can factor in Zeke coming
Speaker 1: back in two games. You can factor in Lee coming back.
Speaker 1: Maybe this week, most likely this week. Where do you
Speaker 1: guys feel good about entering this holiday season? Hmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: stumped you good pole question? Thank you? What do you got, Mickey?
Speaker 1: Special teams? That's an option? Hey, that was the first
Speaker 1: punt return for a touchdown, says twenty thirteen Dwayne Harris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Switzer with the heck of a play. Cavan Frasier doing
Speaker 1: some things is it foolish to think that the changes
Speaker 1: that they made in the secondary makes the defense better.
Speaker 1: Is it foolish just adding a Woozier and moving Scandric
Speaker 1: outside and Cheeto is impressive? Huh? What have I always
Speaker 1: said about Scandrick better on the outside? Let him play
Speaker 1: one spot one, don't let them do both. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think the foolish thing brand that I'm having a hard
Speaker 1: time thinking about with those guys that you're talking about adding,
Speaker 1: is thinking, Okay, yeah, they're rookies, they'll get better, but
Speaker 1: I want to see him have a full off season.
Speaker 1: And I say that, like, you know, you can't just
Speaker 1: put those guys in there and say, oh, they'll be great.
Speaker 1: They didn't really play at training camp. Yeah. What was
Speaker 1: better about the offense this week? They protected better line?
Speaker 1: He said it during the week. Yeah, the old line
Speaker 1: they protect better run the ball, But they did a
Speaker 1: better job. And I don't think you can run the
Speaker 1: ball better if your offensive line didn't play better. So
Speaker 1: it's not just the protection. And I think I think
Speaker 1: they just they were healthier. And I still think that
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at it, there was
Speaker 1: some meat left on the bone in that running game too.
Speaker 1: Ask you this though, So the three game winning streak, knowled,
Speaker 1: do you not think so? Didn't you see some things
Speaker 1: that you said, Oh, look at that. No, I'm just
Speaker 1: laughing at the Joseph Randall quest. Yeah yeah, breaking Joe
Speaker 1: Randall up every now and then. But do you feel
Speaker 1: like do you feel like they were capable of playing
Speaker 1: like that during the three game losing street. I think
Speaker 1: the injuries. What I point the offensive line I pointed
Speaker 1: out today is they had some things go badly for him,
Speaker 1: and they didn't grit their teeth and play through it.
Speaker 1: It was almost like, oh, here we go again, and well,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna win in this league. And I hate
Speaker 1: to sound like the head coach, but you got to
Speaker 1: overcome some adversity, and they didn't. Every time something went
Speaker 1: wrong went bad, it was like, oh, you know sometimes, okay,
Speaker 1: you give up twenty five points, go score thirty. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't quit playing defense. I kind of I toss
Speaker 1: out the Atlantic game, and I'm not trying to put
Speaker 1: everything on Chat took the blame for that one head
Speaker 1: coach too. Well. They didn't help him enough. They they
Speaker 1: should have made a chance probably and just gone something
Speaker 1: else earlier in the game, and it just affected everything
Speaker 1: because they couldn't pass protect, and then it affected how
Speaker 1: you can maintain balance in the running game and you
Speaker 1: score got out of hand. So I take that one
Speaker 1: out of it. Make his reference in that three game
Speaker 1: losing streak the other two. Yeah, Brian, I mean not
Speaker 1: having tyrants. You know that Philly game hurts. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they were the closest to full strength they've been. I
Speaker 1: think that that was a factor. As Tay said, I
Speaker 1: give Low Collins a lot of credit for the way
Speaker 1: he played the other night. No practice at all, no practice,
Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan. Yeah, not Freston Smith, not full strength, not
Speaker 1: a ton of help. Yeah, really good job under the
Speaker 1: radar player of the game on the Jason Garrett Show,
Speaker 1: Oh there we go a nice who did the who
Speaker 1: did the fans say? I went, I went defense, defense, defense.
Speaker 1: You guys gotta vote. What was the question? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm joke. The best thing that you could go, I said,
Speaker 1: special teams just to be a jerk. I feel good
Speaker 1: about I feel you feel good about being a jerk? Now?
Speaker 1: I feel well, of course, with Sean Lee on the field,
Speaker 1: I feel better about the defense. Okay, that one I
Speaker 1: just feel better about that. Just every just life, just
Speaker 1: every offense. Okay, yeah, I think you're right. Thirty eight
Speaker 1: after not scoring, but twenty two total. They look more
Speaker 1: like themselves in the second half, wearing on teams, grinding
Speaker 1: with the running game. Special teams wins the pole Mick one. Well,
Speaker 1: think about it, goes to the defense, nineteen percent to
Speaker 1: the offense. Your punter is on fire. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he's second in the league, and punts down inside the twenty.
Speaker 1: He's got a really good net average. People just don't
Speaker 1: return the punts. No, your kickers back healthy. By the way,
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about extra points banging off
Speaker 1: the upright right? Um? How about this? How about this?
Speaker 1: You create turnovers and create turnover turnovers part you create
Speaker 1: a turnover and you get a score. How about that?
Speaker 1: I mean I could, I could. I know he said
Speaker 1: it with tongue in cheek about the special teams, but
Speaker 1: I mean that's not wrong. A lot of jerks out
Speaker 1: there voting for special teams today. You think you think
Speaker 1: it was a jerk move. No, I think no, No,
Speaker 1: I mean you think people are just pulling Oh no,
Speaker 1: I think they Ryan Switzer, you know we talk about
Speaker 1: the punt return fumble you had being the difference in
Speaker 1: the game against the Rams. Momentiums shifts. This was a
Speaker 1: momentum shift in the positive way. Here's here's your quests.
Speaker 1: It's right, Switcher the most misunderstood player on this team,
Speaker 1: meaning misunderstood, misunderstood what he what he does, his role,
Speaker 1: what his what he you know, did He's a how
Speaker 1: everybody wants more? Yeah, I think you know there, I
Speaker 1: think it's fine. I mean one of them he misunderstood that.
Speaker 1: The fact that they don't. Everybody's kind of like they're
Speaker 1: either really on in or they're with him. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's they don't use them enough. Yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the big question I got the next day was why
Speaker 1: was Beasley catching punts? It's like, well they did that
Speaker 1: last year when the punk's gonna land inside the twenty
Speaker 1: yard line. I want to have something because because a
Speaker 1: quarter of the fans also said he was that that
Speaker 1: Ryan Switcher has no judgment, you know, so then you
Speaker 1: you you say, they say, well why is he catching?
Speaker 1: Why is basily catching punts? He's because well they're the
Speaker 1: coaches are worried about his judgment. Oh and then you're like, well,
Speaker 1: because then half the other like I say, a quarter
Speaker 1: of the other fans are going, well, he has no judgment.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think he's a really misunderstood
Speaker 1: player on this shiny new toy and you're happy to
Speaker 1: see that it's actually working. Yeah, you drafted him in
Speaker 1: the fourth round for what he did the other night. Overhyped.
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about over hyped Taco Charlton Taco
Speaker 1: all the way. No Switzer, Switzer, Oh yeah, because he
Speaker 1: got to play during the offseason and everybody is everything
Speaker 1: he was doing and hey, both hands up here, No Beasley,
Speaker 1: both hands up. This guy's doing he yeah, because Beasley
Speaker 1: missing both hands gonna start. He was the lucky whitehead
Speaker 1: of this o ts. Yeah, both hands up here. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's one of those things when
Speaker 1: you're writing about guys and you're kind of like you're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: what is there role going to be? That's another one
Speaker 1: of those mis evaluations. What he's done a great job.
Speaker 1: I mean, we felt like, though we've had some discussions
Speaker 1: on the show, that he's capable of returning upun or
Speaker 1: a kick. We just need Mickey wanted. Mickey said, give
Speaker 1: me some blocking. Mickey got some blocking the other day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when we were talking about inactives, I wasn't down with
Speaker 1: putting him down because he kind of he's been building
Speaker 1: towards the return like this, He's had some prol he
Speaker 1: was he was ten minutes away from sitting in that one.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the last guy. There were questions
Speaker 1: about the ankle and all that stuff like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. He was banged up too during ankle looked
Speaker 1: okay to me. Yeah, I think you got the wrong
Speaker 1: word for taco, not overhyped. I think there was expectation
Speaker 1: for expectations of him from people because he was a
Speaker 1: first round draft choice. Sure, and I think if people
Speaker 1: had listened to this show, we warned him that this
Speaker 1: guy's not a walk in starter. He's not a walk
Speaker 1: in star. He's a project and it's gonna take some time.
Speaker 1: And I think but because he was a first round pick,
Speaker 1: everybody expected him to have ten sacks by now, and
Speaker 1: that was never gonna happen. Not just not has any
Speaker 1: rookies got ten sacks? What is what is Lawson having?
Speaker 1: Barnett Barnett Barnett. Barnett is Philadelphia. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: got ten t J. Watt he has it like eight,
Speaker 1: maybe eight and a half something like that. He's a
Speaker 1: good year. You know, we're sitting here talking about DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence getting back on track, and I didn't realize that
Speaker 1: clay Is Campbell actually set the season record for the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars with twelve point five. Yeah. Wow, single season
Speaker 1: highest number of sacks. Yeah. Well they only been a
Speaker 1: round twenty. I know, but but five is pretty low. Saxonville, Saxonville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's still pretty low. Yeah, it is fun defense to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they get after you. They've shut out a couple of
Speaker 1: teams in Burry Church's waving to Brian. Yeah, better, you
Speaker 1: got better talent here. Just gonna tell you we've got
Speaker 1: better talent here. The game that they have like ten
Speaker 1: sacks in though Indie when it was in Indiana, Yeah
Speaker 1: it was. It was a massacre. Yeah, no one's gonna
Speaker 1: catch him. What you get ten sacks in one game?
Speaker 1: That's a guy done in Atlanta. Since that's a great question.
Speaker 1: You know what I was watching that that's thirty for
Speaker 1: thirty right there. I've watched that game, and I was
Speaker 1: waiting to hear his name right never And I finally
Speaker 1: went on the NFL site and I wanted to see
Speaker 1: if he was playing, who was playing, because I you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard unless you see his hair, it's hard to
Speaker 1: see numbers on TV. That's why I feel sorry for
Speaker 1: people to have to watch game up eight total. He
Speaker 1: came in. Yeah, he's got a so he doesn't have
Speaker 1: any since then? Right? Did you have six in that game?
Speaker 1: And he had two? He had two going in and
Speaker 1: if he gets a ten, he gets one point. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: he's got to get there, doney. He hasn't had it.
Speaker 1: I mean I would. The only time I noticed Giants
Speaker 1: on the schedule there somewhere. The only time I noticed
Speaker 1: him is they put him inside and the other guy
Speaker 1: that's the pass rusher. Did they move Beasley over there?
Speaker 1: What's the other guy the McKinley. They put McKinley on
Speaker 1: his spot and moved him inside, and they both rushed
Speaker 1: and the tackle couldn't decide which one to take, and
Speaker 1: I think the tackle went in and McKinley got through
Speaker 1: the quarterback because the guard double team the guy inside.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, the guy's right, and for why are
Speaker 1: you double teaming to the right. It's adjustments right there, Mickey. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines. We have a friend
Speaker 1: of the show, Nebby on the line. Nebbi, what is
Speaker 1: your question? Uh uh hi everyone, uh uh Happy holidays
Speaker 1: to you all and to uh Mickey and Brian, Happy
Speaker 1: early birthday. Thank you very much, nay to go, um listen.
Speaker 1: UH to be honest, I don't know if we're gonna
Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year or not, but of course
Speaker 1: uh uh I'm hoping we will and uh give our
Speaker 1: ourselves a chance to win uh super Bowl fifty two.
Speaker 1: But uh I just want to say that, uh, regardless
Speaker 1: of what happens, if nothing else, uh, let's use uh
Speaker 1: the rest of the season uh to show Commissioner Goodell
Speaker 1: uh uh that he made a huge mistake suspending uh
Speaker 1: uh zeke. And also uh let's use uh the rest
Speaker 1: of the season uh to show the end uh to
Speaker 1: show the NFL UH the kind of team I believe
Speaker 1: uhh we can uh we can be and let's win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl either this year or next year. We
Speaker 1: uh we can do it. Uh uh uh uh take
Speaker 1: care of thanks for being patient with me. Uh, I
Speaker 1: have a great week and once again, uh, happy holidays
Speaker 1: to you all. Thanks, thank you. Nab Yeah you know
Speaker 1: what he mentioned. Goodalla just reminded me that's from tomorrow
Speaker 1: meetings here. Yeah, I wonder if he has somebody go
Speaker 1: in and check his room before he checks staying at
Speaker 1: the omney at the frist CO meetings usually at the airport. No, no, right, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: they have that mart the Hyatt. The Hyatt there had
Speaker 1: the meetings, right because everybody just kind of congregates, lots
Speaker 1: of security, lots of I think we're allowed to kind
Speaker 1: of go over there before the media. No, you can
Speaker 1: be in the hallways. Wait, absolutely, and white a good
Speaker 1: day to go over there and wait yeah, Rob loves
Speaker 1: to go over there and weight on owners, right Rob
Speaker 1: it every year. Rob knows the drill. Yep. Yeah, bring
Speaker 1: a book. If you've been watching any type of sports
Speaker 1: television today, you've seen a lot of clips of Ryan
Speaker 1: Shazier getting carded off the field and kind of a
Speaker 1: scary moment for the Steelers, of course, and a lot
Speaker 1: of cowboys just immediately outpoured their support for wrench Chasier.
Speaker 1: Of course, he went to Ohio State. He was a
Speaker 1: guy who was thought to maybe come to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: that year. They had the card ready, had the card,
Speaker 1: they had the card loaded and ready to go black.
Speaker 1: It was going to hand it in and then he
Speaker 1: went right ahead of them. Then they took Zach Martin.
Speaker 1: So it worked out for both teams. It did, It did,
Speaker 1: but definitely scary. You know you saw the Smith brothers
Speaker 1: who are very close to him. Yeah, obviously Rod went
Speaker 1: to Ohio State with him. Yeah, it's it's sorry, Brian,
Speaker 1: go ahead. It just speaks to I think the fraternity
Speaker 1: that this league is because these guys, I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody can relate to what they go through in
Speaker 1: a seventeen week season like they do what you know,
Speaker 1: they put their bodies on the line. I mean, as
Speaker 1: you said to Hayling the show, nobody is one hundred
Speaker 1: percent at this point in the season. Yeah, they know
Speaker 1: what it's like to play hurt, to get hurt, and
Speaker 1: you hate to see that happen to somebody. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: and that that game Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, those AFC North games,
Speaker 1: and you can even talk about the Ravens in there.
Speaker 1: There is no love loss between those teams, I mean Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: I mean they you know, with with the with the
Speaker 1: player bursts, you know, and how he plays, and he
Speaker 1: took a shot at brown It one time, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of going back and forth between Nut two and I've
Speaker 1: seen games like you can watch tape with then they
Speaker 1: played the Ravens is another one, the Ravens Steelers rivalry
Speaker 1: like ten years ago. Oh my dad was got I
Speaker 1: mean that was those rutal games. I mean those were
Speaker 1: ten six games and it just incredible those guys going
Speaker 1: the way they did after each other. But I saw
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman kind of tweeted out about you know, he
Speaker 1: was he was disappointed in watching that game, you know
Speaker 1: that the way it was, the league should be ashamed
Speaker 1: and all that. And I don't know, I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. It sounded like it was
Speaker 1: more of a brawl in a football game. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we were out of pocket last night,
Speaker 1: you know, having our our holiday party and stuff, so
Speaker 1: I didn't get to see a lot of it, But
Speaker 1: I just seen the replays that it looked like, I say,
Speaker 1: there were a lot of wicked hits. Well, we saw
Speaker 1: this earlier with the Bengals. AJ Green and Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: went at it and what we're gonna say, Rob Well
Speaker 1: and Brian mentioned perfect and you don't want to see
Speaker 1: anybody get hurt. He's been involved in a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, and so I think you got other teams
Speaker 1: maybe you want to strike first because they don't want
Speaker 1: to get hit, you know. I mean, it's just it's
Speaker 1: a it's a volatile situation games that he's been in
Speaker 1: and then unfortunate Yeah, that's yeah, there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff, just kind of extracurricular stuff stuff. Huh. It's
Speaker 1: like you as you asked these guys, Okay, go tackle
Speaker 1: this guy, go get him, you know, be aggressive for
Speaker 1: sixty minutes. Yeah, but there's a difference there, difference and
Speaker 1: being just out and out dirty. But that's what I think. Mean,
Speaker 1: this was like going back to those seventies when the
Speaker 1: object going into a game was well, let's get that
Speaker 1: guy out of the game, slapshot and knock him out. Well,
Speaker 1: it was kind of that way. I mean, it was unspoken,
Speaker 1: but that was you know, it was interesting when we
Speaker 1: had and it's as Roger stab I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say so. When Roger Shabak did the breakfast, you know,
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys Club a couple of weeks ago, someone
Speaker 1: asked him in the audience, like, who is one player
Speaker 1: that sticks out in your mind? Lambert? Jack Lambert, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jack Lambert. He said he would look at me, he
Speaker 1: didn't have any teeth and take him out for the games.
Speaker 1: He had a toothlick smile, and he was just a psychopath. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well they were so scary. Yoh, he was terrified of him.
Speaker 1: He's like, I go to bed, I see his face.
Speaker 1: That's when they didn't know. The rule book I think
Speaker 1: was on three pages, you know, six points for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: one point for extra point. Okay, let's go play football.
Speaker 1: Well and they didn't, I mean they they they You
Speaker 1: could go back and watch old highlights of way the
Speaker 1: way those guys used to tackle around the head, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean just I mean Deacon Jones, because they showed
Speaker 1: quarterbacks they get mauled in the pocket. Yeah there was
Speaker 1: no horse collar. Yeah that was a tackle. I mean,
Speaker 1: guys were literally just getting you know. But that's Roger,
Speaker 1: I mean neat, you know. And he used to run
Speaker 1: around and think about this back then, when when guys
Speaker 1: like him wouldn't run and Tarkington would run. It's like
Speaker 1: these defensive guys weren't as athletic as guys are today.
Speaker 1: And so once they got him, you're so frustrated. And
Speaker 1: if you've ever played against a more superior athlete, once
Speaker 1: you get him, you want to give him a little extra, right,
Speaker 1: little extra? You know they used to talk about. I mean,
Speaker 1: he tells the story. You know what I mean. You
Speaker 1: guys know. But Dyrn Talbert went openly said on thanksgive
Speaker 1: before the Thanksgiving game, that Longley game, if we just
Speaker 1: knocked him out of the game, we're gonna win. And
Speaker 1: they knocked him out of the games or didn't win.
Speaker 1: We won day because we went so long we didn't
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