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Speaker 1: Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brought It, Taylor Stern and

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It

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Speaker 1: has been a minute since we've all been here, back

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Speaker 1: with a normal week, getting ready for the Giants Cowboys

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday. So how is everyone doing today Tuesday?

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Speaker 1: Here at the Star? Great doing well? Back at it? Yep,

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Speaker 1: back at it? Are you guys doing today? Guys? Good coach?

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Speaker 1: Good coach? Garrett? How doing guys? How we doing? Here

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Speaker 1: we go? Here we go. That's a coach who still

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Speaker 1: has his job, unlike the Giants one. That's right. I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people were talking this week. Of course,

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Speaker 1: for those listening, the Giant did let go of Ben

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Speaker 1: McAdoo and their GM Jerry Reese, who had been there

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Speaker 1: a long time, and a lot of people are saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this can go one way or the other. For the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and Brad you're already shaking your head. Yes, you've

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Speaker 1: seen this happen before in the NFL. What do you think? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Steve Spagnula is going to take over. He was a

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Speaker 1: head coach with the Saint Louis Rams wasn't successful at

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time defensive coordinaty guy, kind of

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Speaker 1: put together some really good game plans the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years against the Cowboys. This one does worry me

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Speaker 1: because now you're starting when you fire coaches, fire general managers,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you know, you put

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning back in position to be the starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: this week. I worry about this one. I do. And

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Speaker 1: I was watching the Raiders tape this morning with the

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Speaker 1: those guys. And this is one of those things where

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Speaker 1: players the last month of the season now are playing

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Speaker 1: for jobs and they're playing whether they need to be

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Speaker 1: back or not, and coaches are the same way. You know,

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Speaker 1: whoever the new GM is going to be is gonna

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Speaker 1: come in. He's gonna evaluate the current staff that's still there,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna evaluate the players. So this this one

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Speaker 1: for a team that's lost all these games and now

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Speaker 1: they've got there kind of their leader back at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: This could be a very, very difficult game for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I think there's two layers of this, and you spoke

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Speaker 1: to both. Twenty ten was the last time this happened,

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Speaker 1: really the only time in Jerry Jones's tenure that he's

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Speaker 1: Back then, players were put on notice and they were

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Speaker 1: playing for their jobs and performed a lot better in

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Speaker 1: the second half of the season under Garrett, who eventually

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Speaker 1: became the full time coach. The other the other layer

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Speaker 1: to me is Eli Manning. Yeah, I really unfortunate and

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Speaker 1: rare the way he was treated last week, and it

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Speaker 1: sounded like based on Giants ownership, they were they were

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Speaker 1: regretful of how that went down, and I could see

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Speaker 1: this team rallying around him for everything he's meant to

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Speaker 1: that organization. So on the flip side, the Cowboys still

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Speaker 1: have what to play for, so they should be motivated,

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Speaker 1: and they you know, they they're obviously still playing the

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Speaker 1: best they can to before the best they can. They

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Speaker 1: still have a bad offensive line, and they don't run

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Speaker 1: the football all that well, and and they don't have

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Speaker 1: great receivers on the edge, So that is a problem.

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Speaker 1: Other than that, No, but that's it's gonna be hard

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Speaker 1: for them to score points. Now, have you righted all

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Speaker 1: your ills that you had from last the last few

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Speaker 1: weeks of scoring points? Joe of hands, If you thought

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Speaker 1: after putting three games twenty one, I think is what

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Speaker 1: I thought they're gonna come. They're gonna come out all

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Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are gonna have to do withstand that

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Speaker 1: first emotional assault. If you can just get through the

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Speaker 1: to where the talent has to play out, then I

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Speaker 1: think the Cowboys will be fine. But unlike what happened

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Speaker 1: cow Boys jumped out to a lead. Uh, they were up.

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Speaker 1: and go back to being two and ten. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: like I said, Mickey's absolutely right, and you just got

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Speaker 1: Their defense is what scares me the most. There there again,

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Speaker 1: their offense is a mess. It is a McAdoo got fired.

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Speaker 1: they they've they've had this problem of scoring points. He's

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Speaker 1: they're healthy, they score fifteen points a game. He got

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Speaker 1: McVeigh was the sparker. Ardsburg got fired. It was okay,

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Speaker 1: So you're right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, Eli had

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Speaker 1: think the players generally disliked the hit. That's true. I

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Speaker 1: think you're right, Mickey. It started who was it? Was

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Speaker 1: that's what you're right, Yeah, is that then the players

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Speaker 1: built this thing on his back two super Bowls. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the halftime thing when they said, well, what adjustments did

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Speaker 1: Miles Austin. Yeah, what we're gonna say, Bran, I'm sorry. No,

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Speaker 1: this year. No, and he hasn't. And and that's you know,

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Speaker 1: You know you're you're benching a guy that's been playing

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Speaker 1: pretty bad. I'm gonna go to his brother, Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: But if they would have bench Peyton Manning for that

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Speaker 1: even throughout the playoffs. Well, they knew they had a

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Speaker 1: great defense. Yeah, that's true, that their their defense was

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Speaker 1: going to win that Super Bowl. What I'm saying it

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Speaker 1: was Peyton Manning esque. Well, it's never easy to look

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Speaker 1: what happened with the Cowboys. How many days do we

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Speaker 1: talk about Tony Romo never coming back? Well, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: the face of your franchise. Yeah. Rarely do quarterbacks get

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Speaker 1: I mean it really, Denver is the only Alway winning

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. You're right. And Peyton yeah last what

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Speaker 1: I mean Eli's had had a tough season. But again,

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Speaker 1: But they're not scoring point No, they're not not what

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Speaker 1: going right in this game that they won, and look

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Speaker 1: they've got to rectify that. If a strong coach and

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Speaker 1: a strong GM would have benched Eli Manning, and do

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Speaker 1: you think that would have I mean, they could have

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Robert Craft. Yeah, if they had benched him

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Speaker 1: my high school game, and she was on. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's late. The founder of Tommy John's is a woman. Awesome? Yeah, good, absolutely. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Sean Lee back in the lineup this week. What do

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Speaker 1: you think of it? Robert, It's looking like that's the case,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to see how he practices, but the expectation

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Speaker 1: sounds like Wednesday he should be pretty full go. He's

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Speaker 1: been pointing to this. I think those that three games

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Speaker 1: in twelve days was too much to ask. Yeah, i

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Speaker 1: think they've been pointing to this for a while, and

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Speaker 1: it would be big to get him back. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys with Lee in the lineup in the opener

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Speaker 1: against the Giants, those three points allowed, lowest of the season,

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Speaker 1: lowest of the Giants season. So hey, can they replicate

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Speaker 1: that with him in the lineup. The way that the

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Speaker 1: lack of second level blocking for the Giants will be

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Speaker 1: a huge factor for their inability, I mean they will

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Speaker 1: be a factor for them. They won't be able to

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Speaker 1: block Shan Lee. I really don't think they will because again,

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Speaker 1: they just do not get guys up. I mean they're

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Speaker 1: fighting with guys along the line of scrimmage or a

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Speaker 1: push shove group kind of billy to billy kind of

486
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Speaker 1: try and push you around group, and they're really not

487
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Speaker 1: good at that. And so Sean Lee let him run free.

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Speaker 1: We all know that Sean Lee will make thirteen tackles

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Speaker 1: in this game. Trust me. The way that the way

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Speaker 1: that the Giants block, it's gonna be a problem for him,

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Speaker 1: It really will be. Then Hitchens I'll have ten, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Smith will have eight, and then Marcus Lawrence will

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Speaker 1: be back with the sex. There you go, keep that lead. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: that that that is that I mean yeah, because cha

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Speaker 1: Chad Wheeler, who's been playing right tackle for them. I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna say this is awful. He really is. He's awful,

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Speaker 1: and it's a problem. And you feel bad for Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning in them. I mean the way they're taking hits

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Speaker 1: and stuff. But every time he has to step up

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Speaker 1: in the pocket, it's generally Chad Wheeler on that right side.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I go back to with the Eli decision,

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Speaker 1: Like is he really the problem? Like I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean I get maybe you can make throws under pressure,

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Speaker 1: you know, but not maybe not this much pressure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And they don't have a running game they can lean on.

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Speaker 1: They're bet the best, their best. Their best runner, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, is Wayne Gallman, the kid they drafted in

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Speaker 1: the fourth round out of Clemson. They don't hand him

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Speaker 1: the ball. They have four backs at play and they

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Speaker 1: all kind of I don't know why Gallman he's the

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Speaker 1: best one at since you can give him a nickname,

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Speaker 1: Gallop and Gallman. Yeah, yeah, but the jack rabbit on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. Yeah, that's what they're problem.

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Speaker 1: That's that's but their their problems have been this offensive

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Speaker 1: line they have. They have no identity other than bad.

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Speaker 1: That's their idea. We're bad. So do you think, uh,

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Speaker 1: since you mentioned Sean Lee, what do you think about Scandrid?

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Speaker 1: He was able to finish well, he didn't finish did

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Speaker 1: he didn't like the leg end. He came out of

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and he was walking awfully, gingerly after

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Speaker 1: the game. So, I don't know. I Garrett didn't sound

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Speaker 1: like he was going to practice tomorrow tomorrow for sure,

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Speaker 1: maybe by the end of the week. I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm able to make it. I'm kind of half.

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Speaker 1: I think he missed my arm, like I think he

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Speaker 1: misses one. Yeah, Tony missed one, same injury. Yeah, for position.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If that Tony didn't have to tackle, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say I would say he's probably not gonna play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. They'll they'll match things up. I mean

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Speaker 1: they did it last but we saw what happened last week.

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Speaker 1: What did they do to put Xavier Woods in the slot? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and put somebody on the outside. That's what they'll do it.

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Speaker 1: It'll come down to either or Anthony Brown Brown, because

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Speaker 1: Anthony Brown the slot. Jason brought his name up when

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Speaker 1: somebody asked it as well, we do have Anthony Brown, yeah,

536
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Speaker 1: Ben Wickery, yes, so yeah, don't don't count that out either.

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Speaker 1: Giants have a hard time throwing the ball. They do.

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Speaker 1: They did no receivers, no line quarterback gets hit every play. Still,

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Speaker 1: now we got to watch him because of the defense

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Speaker 1: we do. Dude, let's go to the phone lines. We

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Speaker 1: have Elvis from Midland on the line. Well, I thought

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Speaker 1: you said Elvis from Memphis. I was being a little

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Speaker 1: impressed there this. Well you got yes, yes, sir, it

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Speaker 1: looks like to me. And again, I'm just sitting on

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Speaker 1: my couch watching. But the receiver routes are predictable occasionally

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Speaker 1: days is in the slot. Well what I'm looking for

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Speaker 1: is maybe get this receiver stack like they do in

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Speaker 1: Arizona where they're stacked three deep. Um, I just don't

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00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: think our receivers can be can be covered like a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams beating Dallas with over the middle and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. So you can just comment on changing

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Speaker 1: the receiver routes and the stacks up. Thanks. I mean

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Speaker 1: I've seen him stack the receiver and they just kind

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Speaker 1: of scatter, bunch, bunch scatter. Yeah, they've been going three left,

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Speaker 1: three right. Take up into the last game last week.

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Speaker 1: That does have been put in the slot, like one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty eight times in the slot quite a bit. Yeah. Yeah. See,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a perception out there that he's

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Speaker 1: always on the outside right, runs the same route all

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Speaker 1: the time, right, and it's not the case. Not the case.

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Speaker 1: He does run It seems like he does run better

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Speaker 1: routes against the Redskins. He's got those down the ends, slants,

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00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: the curls, things like that. They need more of that. Well,

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Speaker 1: the routes get better when the production gets better. That's

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Speaker 1: fair too, that's like we will score more points. No,

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Speaker 1: And he saw what he did the fifty fifty ball

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Speaker 1: that went up. I mean he went and gout and

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00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: it was a good pass, but you know how it

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Speaker 1: was a catchable ball. Well you know how, you know

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Speaker 1: why I thought it worked out well for him. He

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Speaker 1: won off the line of scrimmage. He won, He won

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Speaker 1: the route. Now he gives himself an opportunity to go

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Speaker 1: and find the mark and then go get the ball

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00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: when he's fighting with people and then having to go

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Speaker 1: and try and find the ball doesn't work out for

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Speaker 1: him all the time. That was Derek Dooley's pet peeve

577
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Speaker 1: when he got here with Dez Bryant. You got to

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Speaker 1: get off the line of scrimmage. You can't be sitting

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Speaker 1: there muscling your way around. And by time that happens,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback says, oh, he's eliminated and they move on

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Speaker 1: from you. Right. You got to get off the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, yep, absolutely absolutely, And then what other there's

583
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Speaker 1: should be one? Oh, Dax hand. So we took care

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Speaker 1: of Dax's hand. We got Sean Lee in there, got

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Speaker 1: scan Drek already questionable far they practice right, yeah, anybody else,

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00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: everybody else good. Got your offensive lineman a little banged

587
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: up still, I'm sure probably, I'm sure this did wonders

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Speaker 1: for Tyrn Smith. Yeah, yeah, but it's something he's probably

589
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Speaker 1: managing through throughout the rest of the n LC. He's

590
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: going to manage the problem, I mean, but it's his growing.

591
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: That was the bothering him, not the back. It was

592
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: his growing this time. See the thing about it is

593
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: too these players see what's ahead. Yeah, the calendars now

594
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: switched to December. They know there's four weeks. So we've

595
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: had It's been a long campaign for going you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean we were in a Hall of Fame game,

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Speaker 1: right so, I mean it's been a long campaign. It

598
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: seems like a year ago. Yeah, so you really you

599
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: really have to suck it up the last four games

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Speaker 1: of the season. You're actually you're playing for something. You're

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Speaker 1: playing to try and get in the tournament. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you could be San Francisco or Cleveland or one of

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Speaker 1: these other teams. I mean, heck, think about what they're

604
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: going through in Kansas City right now, you know, I mean,

605
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: you're you're thinking, how we just get a damn win.

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Speaker 1: You know Marcus Peters who threw the flag because he

607
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: was just more shot too good throw get it into

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Speaker 1: the stands. He did. But yeah, but that's insane, Alex

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Speaker 1: Mac players. Players know their bodies are hurting, but they

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Speaker 1: will gut it up for four weeks. I feel like

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Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford is a great example of that. For the

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Speaker 1: past two seas. Absolutely, yes, you know he always knows.

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is another great example for that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all of these guys are playing through something. You're getting

615
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Speaker 1: beat up all throughout the season. Dack's hand is going

616
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Speaker 1: to be a problem until you know they finally you know,

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Speaker 1: he gets to rest it. Now, someone who who might

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Speaker 1: be more rested than others is who's wherever he's sitting

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Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott two games now? Is it crazy to think

620
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Speaker 1: we've already gone through four games? That's why the season flies? Oh,

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Speaker 1: it seems like it because they lost three of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: lost three of them. Mickey was nicky, was looking at

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Speaker 1: this picture of him framed on his desk. Ye. One

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Speaker 1: to ten shape factor for Zeke. I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be good. Ten being the high shape factor, ready

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Speaker 1: to go. One being Brian, you get out there and

627
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Speaker 1: carry the ball. Oh I don't think that's the option. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be eight to ten range. I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be some of the best you've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Are you're asking that, Brian because I earned about it? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking, Yes, he is, I'm just asking. I'm asking

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Speaker 1: because we're all we've all kind of taken the our

633
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: little baskets and kind of walked down the street and

634
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: we're just kind of like, put all those legs in him.

635
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: Let's hope, and he's gonna come back, and you're gonna

636
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: be like that's as he call it. I hope, So,

637
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: I hope, So Tay, I think, but we haven't seen

638
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: a guy that has a whole hell of a lot

639
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: of discipline. I know. I mean, we're not exactly talking

640
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: about you know, do you think he's learned his lesson?

641
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: That's a hard question. It is a hard question, but

642
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe they put him in solitary

643
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: confinement somewhere. Seems time out for six weeks, work out

644
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: time out. Well, when he reported to camp, what do

645
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: you think about his conditioning, how he looked, Because that's

646
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: after an offseason and I know, okay, you're through OTAs

647
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: in mini camp, but then you have about five weeks away.

648
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: My running back wears two hoodies, a turtleneck and he

649
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: wears all those stuffs are practicing, Yeah, they're signed, an

650
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: extra sweat kind of thing. Always are kind of a

651
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: little bit of a concern. I don't. I hate the

652
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: rule that you can't be I don't. I don't think

653
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: it's fair to any team, and no matter what type

654
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: of suspension, but because it's you can't be around, you

655
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: can't have that environment. But I'm not that concerned that

656
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be way out of shape. No, let

657
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: me ask you this, the torious slow starter worried about

658
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: six weeks Mickey, the torious slow starter. It looks like

659
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons we've had him. Yeah, but

660
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: there was a reason. The first year he missed all

661
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: the training camp with a hamstring. Hamstring playing him in

662
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: a game. Sure, I don't know if he started slow

663
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: this year. I think we've we've given credit to those

664
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Speaker 1: those opponents months. Sure, I thought he was pressing the

665
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: hole trying to make plays in those games. Oh line,

666
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean he got hit by the high A lot

667
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 1: of scrimmage a lot. Yeah, So you're right, you're right.

668
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: Though we're counting on these last two games of the season,

669
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna put up one fifty and and they're gonna

670
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: be backed exactly the way they were. Well, did I

671
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: ask you guys this question? To ask you the other

672
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: day when you were on Mickey, if you're out of

673
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, to you even play him, Yes, I think

674
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: you do. Try to finish strong. Yes, I feel like

675
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: you would. And I say that because you know, you

676
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: would kind of have the idea of like, hey, you

677
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: got a good back, you gotta use your back. You know,

678
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: I just give I would give Rod Smith the games

679
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: to see find out about him, find out about him.

680
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: If you're out of the playoffs, you know, maybe even

681
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: give maybe give Cooper Rush a game if you're out

682
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: of it. If you're out of it, I don't know

683
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: if that's the head coaches. I'm just telling you, though,

684
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to go in I wouldn't want to

685
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: go into two thousand and eighty. Chaz Green a shot too,

686
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: sit tyrant Smith? Yeah why not? If you're gonna play

687
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush, you're gonna play Noah Brown? Yeah? Why not?

688
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: How about all those defensive backs too, they're already playing.

689
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about start them. They already are, Start

690
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: all of them. They're they're playing. They're starting. Good thought.

691
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: I just I don't know if I mean no, no,

692
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I hope this is a playoff run.

693
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, though, would you how terrible would you

694
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: feel in a meaningless week fifteen games. You realize, since

695
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, we've only known twice that the

696
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: season's going to be over before. Oh no, I know,

697
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: the last game of the season years ten and twenty

698
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: fifteen parody. Oh, it's not parody. They've been They've been

699
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: right at the edge all those years. Now. I know

700
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: they didn't win a Super Bowl, and I know that's

701
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: the bottom line, but think about it. We couldn't plan

702
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: our lives any of those years, but twice. Yeah, what

703
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: are you trying to plan right now? You realize for

704
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: the last fifty ski have won at least ten games.

705
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: Mickey's trying to get that Missouri game. Imagine, Mick, if

706
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: you're sitting up in foxb bro, you for the last

707
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: fifteen years, you've always won ten games in your season.

708
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: You could just book it skiing in February. Yeah, Yeah,

709
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: you're in super Bowls sometimes too, right, Yeah, sometimes you

710
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: gotta wait till mid February. Yeah, you're going at the

711
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: spring break point. Yeah. I saw that today. I was like, wow,

712
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I just I you know,

713
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful, We're all I think we're all hopeful that

714
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Speaker 1: they But I'm Also, I'm also from the school of

715
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not afraid to let a guys,

716
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: a couple of guys be inactive for those games. If

717
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: I could get twenty eighteen off to a healthy start,

718
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if if and we're going way

719
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: hypothetical here, but like, if you get to week seventeen

720
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: and the Eagles have it wrapped up and they're not

721
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: playing anybody, Okay, maybe I could see that, but I'm

722
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: focusing on having a great Tuesday. Are you trying to

723
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: beat those giants? Because it's not sure you know you

724
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: should and I don't. I didn't. I didn't say it

725
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: was over. I didn't say it was over at all.

726
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. It to me, it's it's one

727
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: of those things you got to kind of, you know

728
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: if it if it gets to that, then you have

729
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: to kind of plan ahead. It didn't happen at the

730
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: end of the twenty fifteen season, did it. What Just

731
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: play guys, Just play guys. Well, you bench Moore in

732
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: there because he was the best option was Toyer and

733
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell, and those guys were in there. At the end.

734
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Speaker 1: Terrence Mitchell got an interception again, fantasy chiefs. Hey, coach,

735
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: but this is the way I like to do it. Yeah, yeah,

736
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: Coach Marinelli there oh yeah, yeah, I didn't last long.

737
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: Not don't buy in your out? Yeah, I mean who

738
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: who did they bench to put in? H Kellen Moore?

739
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: Matt Castle? Yeah, after the most bosire. It was one

740
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: of the guys that helped the Patriots get a ten

741
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: win season with the Jets game an interception that was

742
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: trying to throw it away and he threw it right

743
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: to the guy intentional grounding on interception, probably a league

744
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 1: first ever. Yeah, I think you're there was no receiver,

745
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: they're just a just a defensive back. Is that what happened?

746
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: It was falling backwards, trying to throw it out of bounds,

747
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: and he threw it to the dB who returned it.

748
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, there was no

749
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: receiver there, throw a flash. What a time to spend

750
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Speaker 1: a minute. We are going to take our final break

751
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Speaker 1: here and when we come back, we do have a

752
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Speaker 1: Rob's Twitter poll, so we're back, all right, yeah, poll

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Speaker 1: Papa John's. That sounds good. Hey, I was gonna make

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Speaker 1: you a Papa John's bet, Brian, got it. You know

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Speaker 1: we're sitting here, we got four games left. Obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot can happen if the Cowboys make a play make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs for a week, four weeks, once once a

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Speaker 1: week for four weeks. Okay, So I'm saying they do.

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Speaker 1: You say they don't or no. I'm just taking whatever

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Speaker 1: do you want, I'll take the other side. We win.

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Speaker 1: I think they have a distribution center off of three

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Speaker 1: to sixty when you're going towards the stadium. Oh, keep

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Speaker 1: that in mind, Brian. Yeah, if you just go to

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Speaker 1: the distribution and this thing keeps going into January. The

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Speaker 1: came through. I appreciate it now, Robert, you always have

817
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Speaker 1: it the Rob's Twitter poll. Yes, it's been a minute

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Speaker 1: since we had one of these, and the third time

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Speaker 1: I've heard that today. Oh, it's been a minute. That's

820
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Speaker 1: not so Hey, everybody's feeling better about the team after

821
00:40:56,080 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: last Thursday one. Huh got a twenty four point in

822
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: against your rival. You're not out of this playoff thing yet,

823
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: so okay, four got Piza riding on it. Yeah, Pizza's

824
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: riding on it. Which area of the team do you

825
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: feel best about now heading into December? Simple? Pole, offense,

826
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: defense or special teams. You can factor in Zeke coming

827
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Speaker 1: back in two games. You can factor in Lee coming back.

828
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Speaker 1: Maybe this week, most likely this week. Where do you

829
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Speaker 1: guys feel good about entering this holiday season? Hmm, yeah,

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Speaker 1: stumped you good pole question? Thank you? What do you got, Mickey?

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Speaker 1: Special teams? That's an option? Hey, that was the first

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Speaker 1: punt return for a touchdown, says twenty thirteen Dwayne Harris. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Switzer with the heck of a play. Cavan Frasier doing

834
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Speaker 1: some things is it foolish to think that the changes

835
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Speaker 1: that they made in the secondary makes the defense better.

836
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Speaker 1: Is it foolish just adding a Woozier and moving Scandric

837
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Speaker 1: outside and Cheeto is impressive? Huh? What have I always

838
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Speaker 1: said about Scandrick better on the outside? Let him play

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Speaker 1: one spot one, don't let them do both. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: think the foolish thing brand that I'm having a hard

841
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: time thinking about with those guys that you're talking about adding,

842
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: is thinking, Okay, yeah, they're rookies, they'll get better, but

843
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: I want to see him have a full off season.

844
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: And I say that, like, you know, you can't just

845
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: put those guys in there and say, oh, they'll be great.

846
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: They didn't really play at training camp. Yeah. What was

847
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: better about the offense this week? They protected better line?

848
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: He said it during the week. Yeah, the old line

849
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: they protect better run the ball, But they did a

850
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: better job. And I don't think you can run the

851
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: ball better if your offensive line didn't play better. So

852
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: it's not just the protection. And I think I think

853
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: they just they were healthier. And I still think that

854
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at it, there was

855
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: some meat left on the bone in that running game too.

856
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: Ask you this though, So the three game winning streak, knowled,

857
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: do you not think so? Didn't you see some things

858
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: that you said, Oh, look at that. No, I'm just

859
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: laughing at the Joseph Randall quest. Yeah yeah, breaking Joe

860
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: Randall up every now and then. But do you feel

861
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: like do you feel like they were capable of playing

862
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: like that during the three game losing street. I think

863
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: the injuries. What I point the offensive line I pointed

864
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 1: out today is they had some things go badly for him,

865
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: and they didn't grit their teeth and play through it.

866
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: It was almost like, oh, here we go again, and well,

867
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: if you're gonna win in this league. And I hate

868
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: to sound like the head coach, but you got to

869
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: overcome some adversity, and they didn't. Every time something went

870
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: wrong went bad, it was like, oh, you know sometimes, okay,

871
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: you give up twenty five points, go score thirty. You know,

872
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: you don't quit playing defense. I kind of I toss

873
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: out the Atlantic game, and I'm not trying to put

874
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: everything on Chat took the blame for that one head

875
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: coach too. Well. They didn't help him enough. They they

876
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: should have made a chance probably and just gone something

877
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: else earlier in the game, and it just affected everything

878
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: because they couldn't pass protect, and then it affected how

879
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: you can maintain balance in the running game and you

880
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: score got out of hand. So I take that one

881
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: out of it. Make his reference in that three game

882
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: losing streak the other two. Yeah, Brian, I mean not

883
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: having tyrants. You know that Philly game hurts. So yeah,

884
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: they were the closest to full strength they've been. I

885
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: think that that was a factor. As Tay said, I

886
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: give Low Collins a lot of credit for the way

887
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: he played the other night. No practice at all, no practice,

888
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan. Yeah, not Freston Smith, not full strength, not

889
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: a ton of help. Yeah, really good job under the

890
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: radar player of the game on the Jason Garrett Show,

891
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: Oh there we go a nice who did the who

892
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: did the fans say? I went, I went defense, defense, defense.

893
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: You guys gotta vote. What was the question? Oh my gosh,

894
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm joke. The best thing that you could go, I said,

895
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 1: special teams just to be a jerk. I feel good

896
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: about I feel you feel good about being a jerk? Now?

897
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: I feel well, of course, with Sean Lee on the field,

898
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: I feel better about the defense. Okay, that one I

899
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: just feel better about that. Just every just life, just

900
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 1: every offense. Okay, yeah, I think you're right. Thirty eight

901
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: after not scoring, but twenty two total. They look more

902
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: like themselves in the second half, wearing on teams, grinding

903
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: with the running game. Special teams wins the pole Mick one. Well,

904
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: think about it, goes to the defense, nineteen percent to

905
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: the offense. Your punter is on fire. Yeah, I think

906
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 1: he's second in the league, and punts down inside the twenty.

907
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: He's got a really good net average. People just don't

908
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: return the punts. No, your kickers back healthy. By the way,

909
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about extra points banging off

910
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: the upright right? Um? How about this? How about this?

911
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: You create turnovers and create turnover turnovers part you create

912
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: a turnover and you get a score. How about that?

913
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: I mean I could, I could. I know he said

914
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: it with tongue in cheek about the special teams, but

915
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's not wrong. A lot of jerks out

916
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: there voting for special teams today. You think you think

917
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: it was a jerk move. No, I think no, No,

918
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean you think people are just pulling Oh no,

919
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: I think they Ryan Switzer, you know we talk about

920
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: the punt return fumble you had being the difference in

921
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: the game against the Rams. Momentiums shifts. This was a

922
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: momentum shift in the positive way. Here's here's your quests.

923
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: It's right, Switcher the most misunderstood player on this team,

924
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: meaning misunderstood, misunderstood what he what he does, his role,

925
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: what his what he you know, did He's a how

926
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: everybody wants more? Yeah, I think you know there, I

927
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: think it's fine. I mean one of them he misunderstood that.

928
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: The fact that they don't. Everybody's kind of like they're

929
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: either really on in or they're with him. I mean,

930
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: he's they don't use them enough. Yeah, yeah, I mean

931
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: the big question I got the next day was why

932
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: was Beasley catching punts? It's like, well they did that

933
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: last year when the punk's gonna land inside the twenty

934
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: yard line. I want to have something because because a

935
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: quarter of the fans also said he was that that

936
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: Ryan Switcher has no judgment, you know, so then you

937
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: you you say, they say, well why is he catching?

938
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: Why is basily catching punts? He's because well they're the

939
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: coaches are worried about his judgment. Oh and then you're like, well,

940
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: because then half the other like I say, a quarter

941
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: of the other fans are going, well, he has no judgment.

942
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think he's a really misunderstood

943
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: player on this shiny new toy and you're happy to

944
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: see that it's actually working. Yeah, you drafted him in

945
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: the fourth round for what he did the other night. Overhyped.

946
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about over hyped Taco Charlton Taco

947
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: all the way. No Switzer, Switzer, Oh yeah, because he

948
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,720
Speaker 1: got to play during the offseason and everybody is everything

949
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: he was doing and hey, both hands up here, No Beasley,

950
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: both hands up. This guy's doing he yeah, because Beasley

951
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: missing both hands gonna start. He was the lucky whitehead

952
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: of this o ts. Yeah, both hands up here. Hey,

953
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's one of those things when

954
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: you're writing about guys and you're kind of like you're thinking, Okay,

955
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: what is there role going to be? That's another one

956
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: of those mis evaluations. What he's done a great job.

957
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean, we felt like, though we've had some discussions

958
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: on the show, that he's capable of returning upun or

959
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: a kick. We just need Mickey wanted. Mickey said, give

960
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: me some blocking. Mickey got some blocking the other day. Yeah,

961
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: when we were talking about inactives, I wasn't down with

962
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: putting him down because he kind of he's been building

963
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: towards the return like this, He's had some prol he

964
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: was he was ten minutes away from sitting in that one.

965
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the last guy. There were questions

966
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 1: about the ankle and all that stuff like that. Yeah, yeah,

967
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: that's right. He was banged up too during ankle looked

968
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: okay to me. Yeah, I think you got the wrong

969
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: word for taco, not overhyped. I think there was expectation

970
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: for expectations of him from people because he was a

971
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: first round draft choice. Sure, and I think if people

972
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: had listened to this show, we warned him that this

973
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: guy's not a walk in starter. He's not a walk

974
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: in star. He's a project and it's gonna take some time.

975
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: And I think but because he was a first round pick,

976
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: everybody expected him to have ten sacks by now, and

977
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: that was never gonna happen. Not just not has any

978
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: rookies got ten sacks? What is what is Lawson having?

979
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: Barnett Barnett Barnett. Barnett is Philadelphia. I don't think he's

980
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: got ten t J. Watt he has it like eight,

981
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: maybe eight and a half something like that. He's a

982
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: good year. You know, we're sitting here talking about DeMarcus

983
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: Lawrence getting back on track, and I didn't realize that

984
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: clay Is Campbell actually set the season record for the

985
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars with twelve point five. Yeah. Wow, single season

986
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: highest number of sacks. Yeah. Well they only been a

987
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: round twenty. I know, but but five is pretty low. Saxonville, Saxonville. Yeah,

988
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: that's still pretty low. Yeah, it is fun defense to watch. Yeah,

989
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: they get after you. They've shut out a couple of

990
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: teams in Burry Church's waving to Brian. Yeah, better, you

991
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: got better talent here. Just gonna tell you we've got

992
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: better talent here. The game that they have like ten

993
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: sacks in though Indie when it was in Indiana, Yeah

994
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: it was. It was a massacre. Yeah, no one's gonna

995
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 1: catch him. What you get ten sacks in one game?

996
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: That's a guy done in Atlanta. Since that's a great question.

997
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: You know what I was watching that that's thirty for

998
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: thirty right there. I've watched that game, and I was

999
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: waiting to hear his name right never And I finally

1000
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: went on the NFL site and I wanted to see

1001
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: if he was playing, who was playing, because I you know,

1002
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: it's hard unless you see his hair, it's hard to

1003
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: see numbers on TV. That's why I feel sorry for

1004
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: people to have to watch game up eight total. He

1005
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: came in. Yeah, he's got a so he doesn't have

1006
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: any since then? Right? Did you have six in that game?

1007
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: And he had two? He had two going in and

1008
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: if he gets a ten, he gets one point. Oh gosh,

1009
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: he's got to get there, doney. He hasn't had it.

1010
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: I mean I would. The only time I noticed Giants

1011
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: on the schedule there somewhere. The only time I noticed

1012
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: him is they put him inside and the other guy

1013
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: that's the pass rusher. Did they move Beasley over there?

1014
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: What's the other guy the McKinley. They put McKinley on

1015
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: his spot and moved him inside, and they both rushed

1016
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: and the tackle couldn't decide which one to take, and

1017
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: I think the tackle went in and McKinley got through

1018
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: the quarterback because the guard double team the guy inside.

1019
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: It's like, well, the guy's right, and for why are

1020
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: you double teaming to the right. It's adjustments right there, Mickey. Yeah, well,

1021
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines. We have a friend

1022
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: of the show, Nebby on the line. Nebbi, what is

1023
00:51:52,960 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: your question? Uh uh hi everyone, uh uh Happy holidays

1024
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 1: to you all and to uh Mickey and Brian, Happy

1025
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: early birthday. Thank you very much, nay to go, um listen.

1026
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: UH to be honest, I don't know if we're gonna

1027
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year or not, but of course

1028
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: uh uh I'm hoping we will and uh give our

1029
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: ourselves a chance to win uh super Bowl fifty two.

1030
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: But uh I just want to say that, uh, regardless

1031
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: of what happens, if nothing else, uh, let's use uh

1032
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the season uh to show Commissioner Goodell

1033
00:52:55,400 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: uh uh that he made a huge mistake suspending uh

1034
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: uh zeke. And also uh let's use uh the rest

1035
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: of the season uh to show the end uh to

1036
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: show the NFL UH the kind of team I believe

1037
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: uhh we can uh we can be and let's win

1038
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl either this year or next year. We

1039
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: uh we can do it. Uh uh uh uh take

1040
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: care of thanks for being patient with me. Uh, I

1041
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: have a great week and once again, uh, happy holidays

1042
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: to you all. Thanks, thank you. Nab Yeah you know

1043
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: what he mentioned. Goodalla just reminded me that's from tomorrow

1044
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: meetings here. Yeah, I wonder if he has somebody go

1045
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: in and check his room before he checks staying at

1046
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 1: the omney at the frist CO meetings usually at the airport. No, no, right, right, yeah,

1047
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: they have that mart the Hyatt. The Hyatt there had

1048
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: the meetings, right because everybody just kind of congregates, lots

1049
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: of security, lots of I think we're allowed to kind

1050
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: of go over there before the media. No, you can

1051
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: be in the hallways. Wait, absolutely, and white a good

1052
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: day to go over there and wait yeah, Rob loves

1053
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: to go over there and weight on owners, right Rob

1054
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: it every year. Rob knows the drill. Yep. Yeah, bring

1055
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: a book. If you've been watching any type of sports

1056
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: television today, you've seen a lot of clips of Ryan

1057
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: Shazier getting carded off the field and kind of a

1058
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: scary moment for the Steelers, of course, and a lot

1059
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: of cowboys just immediately outpoured their support for wrench Chasier.

1060
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: Of course, he went to Ohio State. He was a

1061
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: guy who was thought to maybe come to the Cowboys

1062
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: that year. They had the card ready, had the card,

1063
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: they had the card loaded and ready to go black.

1064
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: It was going to hand it in and then he

1065
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: went right ahead of them. Then they took Zach Martin.

1066
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: So it worked out for both teams. It did, It did,

1067
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: but definitely scary. You know you saw the Smith brothers

1068
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: who are very close to him. Yeah, obviously Rod went

1069
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 1: to Ohio State with him. Yeah, it's it's sorry, Brian,

1070
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: go ahead. It just speaks to I think the fraternity

1071
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: that this league is because these guys, I don't know

1072
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: if anybody can relate to what they go through in

1073
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: a seventeen week season like they do what you know,

1074
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: they put their bodies on the line. I mean, as

1075
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: you said to Hayling the show, nobody is one hundred

1076
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: percent at this point in the season. Yeah, they know

1077
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: what it's like to play hurt, to get hurt, and

1078
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: you hate to see that happen to somebody. Yeah, it's

1079
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: and that that game Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, those AFC North games,

1080
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: and you can even talk about the Ravens in there.

1081
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: There is no love loss between those teams, I mean Cincinnati,

1082
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: I mean they you know, with with the with the

1083
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: player bursts, you know, and how he plays, and he

1084
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: took a shot at brown It one time, you know.

1085
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just there's a lot of a lot

1086
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: of going back and forth between Nut two and I've

1087
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: seen games like you can watch tape with then they

1088
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: played the Ravens is another one, the Ravens Steelers rivalry

1089
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: like ten years ago. Oh my dad was got I

1090
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: mean that was those rutal games. I mean those were

1091
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: ten six games and it just incredible those guys going

1092
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: the way they did after each other. But I saw

1093
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman kind of tweeted out about you know, he

1094
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: was he was disappointed in watching that game, you know

1095
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: that the way it was, the league should be ashamed

1096
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: and all that. And I don't know, I don't, I

1097
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. It sounded like it was

1098
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: more of a brawl in a football game. Yeah, I

1099
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we were out of pocket last night,

1100
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, having our our holiday party and stuff, so

1101
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: I didn't get to see a lot of it, But

1102
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: I just seen the replays that it looked like, I say,

1103
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: there were a lot of wicked hits. Well, we saw

1104
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: this earlier with the Bengals. AJ Green and Jalen Ramsey

1105
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: went at it and what we're gonna say, Rob Well

1106
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: and Brian mentioned perfect and you don't want to see

1107
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: anybody get hurt. He's been involved in a lot of stuff,

1108
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, and so I think you got other teams

1109
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: maybe you want to strike first because they don't want

1110
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: to get hit, you know. I mean, it's just it's

1111
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: a it's a volatile situation games that he's been in

1112
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: and then unfortunate Yeah, that's yeah, there's been a lot

1113
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: of stuff, just kind of extracurricular stuff stuff. Huh. It's

1114
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 1: like you as you asked these guys, Okay, go tackle

1115
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: this guy, go get him, you know, be aggressive for

1116
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: sixty minutes. Yeah, but there's a difference there, difference and

1117
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: being just out and out dirty. But that's what I think. Mean,

1118
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: this was like going back to those seventies when the

1119
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: object going into a game was well, let's get that

1120
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: guy out of the game, slapshot and knock him out. Well,

1121
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: it was kind of that way. I mean, it was unspoken,

1122
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: but that was you know, it was interesting when we

1123
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: had and it's as Roger stab I was just gonna

1124
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: say so. When Roger Shabak did the breakfast, you know,

1125
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys Club a couple of weeks ago, someone

1126
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: asked him in the audience, like, who is one player

1127
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: that sticks out in your mind? Lambert? Jack Lambert, Yeah,

1128
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: Jack Lambert. He said he would look at me, he

1129
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: didn't have any teeth and take him out for the games.

1130
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: He had a toothlick smile, and he was just a psychopath. Yeah.

1131
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Well they were so scary. Yoh, he was terrified of him.

1132
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: He's like, I go to bed, I see his face.

1133
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: That's when they didn't know. The rule book I think

1134
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: was on three pages, you know, six points for a touchdown,

1135
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: one point for extra point. Okay, let's go play football.

1136
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Well and they didn't, I mean they they they You

1137
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: could go back and watch old highlights of way the

1138
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: way those guys used to tackle around the head, you know,

1139
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean just I mean Deacon Jones, because they showed

1140
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: quarterbacks they get mauled in the pocket. Yeah there was

1141
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: no horse collar. Yeah that was a tackle. I mean,

1142
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: guys were literally just getting you know. But that's Roger,

1143
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean neat, you know. And he used to run

1144
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: around and think about this back then, when when guys

1145
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: like him wouldn't run and Tarkington would run. It's like

1146
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: these defensive guys weren't as athletic as guys are today.

1147
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: And so once they got him, you're so frustrated. And

1148
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: if you've ever played against a more superior athlete, once

1149
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: you get him, you want to give him a little extra, right,

1150
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: little extra? You know they used to talk about. I mean,

1151
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 1: he tells the story. You know what I mean. You

1152
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: guys know. But Dyrn Talbert went openly said on thanksgive

1153
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: before the Thanksgiving game, that Longley game, if we just

1154
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: knocked him out of the game, we're gonna win. And

1155
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: they knocked him out of the games or didn't win.

1156
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: We won day because we went so long we didn't

1157
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: even know time flies. When you're having fun. Absolutely, we'll

1158
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow, same time, same play, same people, Join

1159
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: us then. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.