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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season too forty three,

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Speaker 1: Episode four of US production of I Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: America's shared consciousness. It's Thursday, June thirtie. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a K. Hey, look at Google flights. WHOA.

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Speaker 1: I'm tired and I got a lot of dread. But

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Speaker 1: I had some mountain dew about an hour ago, and

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Speaker 1: it's gone straight to my head. Wherever I'm a Rome

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Speaker 1: bump bump code, red voltage or gold, you can always

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Speaker 1: hear me singing a song about Hey, look at Google flights. Whoa.

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Speaker 1: That is a pretty good impression of how my brain works.

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Speaker 1: From Mr lugubrious on Twitter at Mr lugubrious. Just you know, tired,

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Speaker 1: constantly distracted by new stuff like whoa, Google flights, Wow,

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Speaker 1: mountain dew. Yeah, I am, you know, spiritually mentally exhausted,

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Speaker 1: and this is how it has manifested. Anyways, I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined by a very special guest co host.

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Speaker 1: You know him as the King of Staying, the Queen

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Speaker 1: of mean. Many DJs are on the ones and twos,

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Speaker 1: He's on the Ones and hey, fuck you it's Mr

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Speaker 1: DJ Daniel good Man. I never heard the ones and

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Speaker 1: fuck us before. That's very funny, that's very like, that's

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Speaker 1: very like big Muscle DJ Energy. Yeah, I like that

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Speaker 1: a lot. Hello, it's your boy DJ Daniel. A k

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Speaker 1: A big cheese it, Daniel. We're gonna talk about that

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Speaker 1: a little bit, very big cheese it. But is it

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Speaker 1: a big cheese it or is it just a bunch

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Speaker 1: of cheese that's stuck together? Like they just didn't break

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Speaker 1: them up like they do with a normal sheet of

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Speaker 1: cheese it before stick to one half, doesn't at the other.

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Speaker 1: Something tells me that it really is just a bunch

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Speaker 1: of big Jesus. But are we all not just a

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Speaker 1: bunch of big cheese that stuck together? That's true in

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Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things we know. We're thrilled to

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Speaker 1: be joined in our third and fourth seats by two

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Speaker 1: of the most brilliant people doing it in podcasting and

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Speaker 1: the audio arts, among many other things. They're the hosts

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Speaker 1: of the truly great, award winning podcast The Stoop. It's

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Speaker 1: Lela Day and hang Up Baba. Hey y'all, how are

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Speaker 1: you guys doing? We're doing great. We're excited now that

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Speaker 1: we're talking about cheese. It's cheese. Its got me think

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Speaker 1: about Cheetos too, all of it. Okay, I've noticed a

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Speaker 1: conspicuous lack of like we wanted to get you onto

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Speaker 1: hear your take of on cheese. It's we feel like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, that was the one glaring hole from all

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Speaker 1: the stuff you've covered on the stoop. It was like,

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Speaker 1: come on, what's what are your thoughts on cheese? It's

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Speaker 1: big ones. Anything with cheese is amazing to me. I

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Speaker 1: love it. I love cheese. Its then it sounds like

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Speaker 1: you're gonna like Taco Bell's new creation. This is not

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Speaker 1: sponsored content, by the way, talk about would I think

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Speaker 1: they would have a hard time sponsoring something where we

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Speaker 1: kind of openly acknowledged that it is coming from a

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Speaker 1: dark place our ob session with Taco Bell and but

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Speaker 1: maybe they're just like um. Anyways, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that new Taco bellt creation. We're also gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about a story I have titled Whelp. It is based

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Speaker 1: on the testimony on the January sixth commission that was

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Speaker 1: pretty I don't know, it seems to have changed the

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Speaker 1: minds on the right. It didn't really change much, but

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Speaker 1: it offered some texture I guess where we didn't have

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Speaker 1: it before. On Trump's behavior on that day, people are

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Speaker 1: also mad that he like throw a plate of French

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Speaker 1: fries at the wall. But I feel like that's that's

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Speaker 1: just straight toxic male. Every president so plays just tracks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all of that plenty more. But first, Leila, and we

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, it is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history, Lord. I mean, I've been all over the place,

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Speaker 1: from cute Hejabi summer outfits to how to help your

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Speaker 1: cat during the fireworks of the fourth July. But I

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Speaker 1: think the biggest one has been around how to talk

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Speaker 1: to your conservative parents about abortion. Yeah, we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about this thing a lot. And you know a lot

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Speaker 1: of us come from conservative families or like conservative immigrant families,

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Speaker 1: and it's just like and my my, my parents were

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Speaker 1: visiting recently, and so it was just like this three

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Speaker 1: generational conversation about this stuff, right, like my parents and

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Speaker 1: mine and my teenage daughters who are growing up in

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Speaker 1: grandparents who come from this other country. And all of

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Speaker 1: this is new. It's been hard, folks, but it's unnecessary.

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Speaker 1: A conversation and has been helping me a lot. Yeah. One,

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Speaker 1: can you give us a tip, like one thing that

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Speaker 1: you found worked well for you in that conversation. Be

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Speaker 1: calm and be patient because these kinds of conversations can

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Speaker 1: go left really fast and you want to keep with

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Speaker 1: a respect, You want to keep the um just you know,

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Speaker 1: don't break your family while having these conversations. That's the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing, is like that, like the mental health sanity

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Speaker 1: all right. There there was these talking points from a

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Speaker 1: doctor during the early stages of COVID where the doctor

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Speaker 1: was basically talking about how to speak to people who

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Speaker 1: not like unflappable nous. It wasn't like a handful of

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Speaker 1: how the conversation usually goes, and it was just unwavering

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Speaker 1: kind of calmness and just sticking to the facts, which is, yes,

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Speaker 1: we have the facts on our side, so it should

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Speaker 1: be possible to stay calm for me. But the fact

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Speaker 1: that we have the facts on our side and they

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Speaker 1: don't see that with regards to any of this, including

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Speaker 1: abortions and reproductive health, is very frustrating, and it's hard

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Speaker 1: when it's people you love, right, And this is happening

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Speaker 1: not just in my immigrant family, but in kind of red,

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Speaker 1: having these kinds of conversations. So just deep breaths and

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Speaker 1: calmness and respect and patience. How about you, Leila. I

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Speaker 1: think it's super interesting that Hannah is talking about this

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Speaker 1: Google search being a very it's a very serious and

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Speaker 1: important topic, and my search has been a little bit different. Um.

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Speaker 1: I was just searching what it means when you have

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Speaker 1: dreams that you're appearing in public and you're naked. Oh right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a comment. Like I feel like I've seen that

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Speaker 1: ever ever never dreamt it. I might have. I don't

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Speaker 1: think I was fully naked, but like just dressed inappropriately,

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Speaker 1: maybe like in my underwear. Although I could be having

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Speaker 1: that thing where like you've seen something so many times

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Speaker 1: so so I have had this reoccurring dream and me

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Speaker 1: afraid of being vulnerable, you're afraid of expressing yourself. But

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Speaker 1: then other dream places, like other dream analysis folks in

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Speaker 1: different parts of the world have totally different interpretations of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm like fascinated about all these like cultural interpretations of

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Speaker 1: to put your socks on one day and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: But with what would like I go out and I

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Speaker 1: not the equivalent of being naked. But like there's something

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Speaker 1: but the naked one is a special one. Leela sounds

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Speaker 1: out funds out summertime. Have you ever had it and

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Speaker 1: just been like, yeah, this is right, this is how

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Speaker 1: I should be dressed because it's appropriate to our rapidly

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Speaker 1: heating earth. Well analysis. Yeah, I'm reading this book The

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Speaker 1: Dawn of Everything. Our listeners will make fun of me

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Speaker 1: because I've been reading it for like seven months, but

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't have the internal fortitude to be reading

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Speaker 1: DNSE nonfiction and have to like go back to sci

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Speaker 1: fi or something like that. But they just had this section,

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Speaker 1: how the Hurons believed our souls have. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: read directly from the book. Our souls have other desires,

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Speaker 1: which are as it were, in born and concealed. They

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Speaker 1: believe that our soul makers. Our soul makes these natural

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Speaker 1: desires known by means of dreams, which are its language. Accordingly,

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Speaker 1: causing various diseases and even death. And the author David

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Speaker 1: Graber and another person named David was like, this might

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Speaker 1: just sound like somebody summarizing Freudian theory, but this was

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Speaker 1: histories and a heritage of you know, psychoanalysis if we

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Speaker 1: the traditional spiritual explanations of things that we live, then

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Speaker 1: the Freud's of the world came right right, and and

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Speaker 1: now you know, all the textbooks are about uh Freud's

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Speaker 1: over over I can't say Freud is over rated. My

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Speaker 1: I mean in the grand scheme of things, right, and

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Speaker 1: and everybody would decide, okay, this person needs like to

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Speaker 1: brilliant people. And I don't I don't want to cause

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Speaker 1: any drum but yeah, I could see that, like totally

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Speaker 1: benefiting from I've never done like a group therapy session

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. I could totally see benefiting from not

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Speaker 1: feeling like you're the only person going through that and

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Speaker 1: hearing how other people would deal with it. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: a group therapy session. Honestly, today I'm definitely thinking I

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Speaker 1: needed because I have some recurring dreams as well, but

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Speaker 1: they're more about me being tickled and I can't do

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Speaker 1: like do you like being tickled in real life? Are

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Speaker 1: But what is something you think is underrated? Peanuts? It's

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Speaker 1: he was. It's such a it's so important to him

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Speaker 1: that he is now starting his movies off, being like

424
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Speaker 1: I flew a real plane. It was sick really up there.

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00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: He's just not popular in my household. Again, why my

426
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: husband is a psychiatrist. That would be one of the

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00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: reasons I think he's scent work in our household either.

428
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: Maybe Yeah, although someone who has gone the opposite direction,

429
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: I do feel like he's TikTok TikTok. And also somebody

430
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: who now is before every one of our movies addressing

431
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: us and being like, movies are good, right, we like movies.

432
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't see that. The Nicole Kidman we we had

433
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: a recent screening with like the l A I Heart

434
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: podcast team, and we had the theater to ourselves. It

435
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: was very fun and the one kind of group chant

436
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: that started was when before the Nicole Kidman had when

437
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: you first see her high heel'll step into that puddle.

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00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: Everyone's like Nicole Nile. Really, I think the world can

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00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: all agree, Yes, that gets human, Yes that it's so

440
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: funny that the movies are creed to Jurassic World, like

441
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, the class the cinematic classics, the classics. But

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00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's talk about wealth. So it the

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00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: January six hearing hearings have been. You know, we cover

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Speaker 1: the news. We were recording, as January said, was unfolding,

445
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: recording every weekday thereafter, and we've been pretty on top

446
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: of what, you know, what actually happened that day, and

447
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: so a lot of what we had heard to this

448
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: point felt like stuff that we knew about. This one

449
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: felt different. People like Fox News didn't really seem to

450
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: know what to do with themselves. There was a moment

451
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: where they like they started out there like, well, what

452
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: where's Jim Jordan's why are why aren't there more people

453
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: like they're pushing back and then I guess they remember,

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Speaker 1: oh that he refused to be a part of this,

455
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: and then but then there's he's like, but yeah, this

456
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: was really bad for the president. And there's three Fox

457
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: News anchors up on camera and there's just dead air

458
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: for like five seconds because they like don't know what

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00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: to say, and then they're like, yeah, so any any

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00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: thoughts and then the other person like yeah, yeah, no, um,

461
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: we just like do what do we really know? There's

462
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of conservative outlets that are now mad,

463
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: like the Washington Examiner. This is going to be the

464
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: first time we do a Washington Examiner quote on this podcast,

465
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: but they had, yeah, they had an editorial that was

466
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: like this person is no longer fit to ever hold

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00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: public office. And I don't know what what was you

468
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: guys experience of of this hearing Does it does it

469
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: change anything for you? Does it feel like it changed

470
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: things for others? We don't watch Fox News, but this

471
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: was a time when me and my husband really wanted

472
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: to watch it to see what's going on. Then you know,

473
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: we have our popcorn in our hands. It's just like

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00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: it's it's the one time we wanted to watch it,

475
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: and we we saw this moment as it happened, and so,

476
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, it felt it felt it felt real and surreal.

477
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: It felt just they don't know what the hell they're doing.

478
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: They're being caught, they're flailing, and then we turned the channel.

479
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: Like that was enough for us to just to understand

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00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: that this is this is shaking them up, This is

481
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: shaking up Conservative America, this is shaking up the Republican

482
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: Party right now, it's shaking up Trump and his family.

483
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, just like that's that's something

484
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: that a lot of us have been wanting for a

485
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Speaker 1: long for a long time. My you know, it's it's

486
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: it's it's been interesting watching these hearings too, because we lived.

487
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: You know, people go back and remember that day, January six,

488
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: and it was it was like out of this world.

489
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: It was like a film, like a movie, like is

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00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: this really happening? Especially you know in our I don't know,

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00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: I can't talk for everybody, but like in my family,

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00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: we were sitting there like watching just incredulously and and

493
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: really wondering if anything is going to happen to these people,

494
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: Like will these people that were watching on our screen

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00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: right now storm the Capitol building? Will anything really happened

496
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: to them? Will they really be held accountable? Will they

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00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: hold accountable the people who stormed the the capital but

498
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: not the folks who pushed them to do it or

499
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: wink wink, hint hint made them do it, you know,

500
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: just like all of these doubts about the American justice system,

501
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: about just justice overall. And at the end of the day,

502
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: our thoughts were, probably nothing's going to happen to these people,

503
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: or they'll find a way out for someone will find them,

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00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: you know, an excuse. And what if these were black

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00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: and brown people, what would have happened to them? Almost

506
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: immediately after this, So, you know, I follow these hearings

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00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: halfheartedly with a grain of salt, not really hoping for

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Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know, yeah, not expecting a lot

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Speaker 1: from the I mean I kind of I kind of

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Speaker 1: feel similarly. I actually do watch other news outlets, like

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00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: I watched Fox, Fox News. I watched other outlets because

512
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: just to see how they're covering these sorts of things.

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00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: I do feel that there was nothing that made me think, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is the moment where there's going to be a

515
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: big reveal, because I feel like there's been so many

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00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: moments throughout his presidency where so many things were revealed

517
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: and people turned a blind eye to it that I

518
00:32:54,440 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: don't really see this information as very explicit and and

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00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: very detailed as it was about you know, his reactions

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00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: and some of the things he said. I don't see

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00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: people actually using this as as as any sort of

522
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Speaker 1: deterrent to like not support him or to even you know,

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00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: go go go against him. Like I just feel like

524
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: we've seen this time and time again that people would

525
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 1: express erratic behavior, they would express uh, being fearful of

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00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: speaking with him or engaging with him, and still there

527
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of movement. I was reading this morning

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Speaker 1: that you know, there was the test the testimony that

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Speaker 1: Cassidy Hutchinson said that, you know, he tried to grab

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Speaker 1: the wheel, you know why they were going to the

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Speaker 1: capital at the Secret Service agents are now reportedly about

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00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: to testify that he didn't actually try to grab the

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Speaker 1: wheel and and and guide the car back to the capital.

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Speaker 1: So it's just like this, this can go on and

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00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: on the back and forth about it, and I just

536
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: feel like people that truly support Donald Trump will continue

537
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: to truly support him regardless of this testimony. So that's

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00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: and there might be these little you know, these little

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00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: bursts of oh they got him, oh this thing, oh

540
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: that thing, But like now we know not to get

541
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: too excited, yeah, about what this will mean in the

542
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. Yeah, And I struggle with like

543
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: whether that means that we are just like the people

544
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: have talked a lot during the early days of his

545
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: presidency about the Overton window, like that idea that you know,

546
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: the more outrageous his behavior, the more it like sort

547
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: of normalized it, and therefore we're and I don't you know,

548
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any like my outrage is

549
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: not changing how his followers feel about him. So it

550
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: really is about like us getting together and organizing at

551
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: some level, as difficult as that is in America. But

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Speaker 1: I think so. The The thing that is like kind

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Speaker 1: of like sticking out to me is that the rage thing,

554
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: him throwing his lunch against the wall is feels like

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00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: it's getting lumped in, like the the headline on Drudge,

556
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: which is the main like sort of right wing media

557
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: thing that I kind of check because I feel like

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00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: Fox News and all those places, well, first of all,

559
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: it's just like a huge amount of people go there.

560
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: It's just one page with like various links and headlines,

561
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of people go there. And like the

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00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: headline on Drudge was like the Don's rage, broken dishes,

563
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: flipped table cloths, And it's like that that feels like

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Speaker 1: the least noteworthy like revelation from yesterday, the revelations seemed,

565
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Speaker 1: or from two days ago, the revelations seemed to be

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Speaker 1: that he wanted And yes, they're going they're going to

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Speaker 1: trend say that he never like reached for the steering wheel.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how credible that is. I I do

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Speaker 1: know that she, as you mentioned, was like detailed seemed incredible.

570
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Was like got to the position she was in in

571
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: all these rooms because she was a conservative Trumpist, true believer,

572
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: to quote the Washington Examiner. So like that's they were like, yeah,

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00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: she's like kind of indisputable on this. But the so

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00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: the detail of him being like I want to go,

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Speaker 1: the detail of him saying like take the weapons scanners away,

576
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: like he trying to get them to let the people

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: who are coming to his speech and about to raid

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Speaker 1: the capital have weapons, feels like there there are a

579
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Speaker 1: couple of moments that she covered that feel like, oh,

580
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: so this is a new detail where he was actively

581
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Speaker 1: trying to make it so that more people would die

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Speaker 1: and like more people like that they would have a

583
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: more credible chance of having like a armed insurrection. And yeah,

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00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: so it was the let my people in, they can

585
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: march to the capital from here, let the people in.

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Speaker 1: Take the mags away, the mag being the weapon scanners.

587
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: I don't care that they have weapons. They're not here

588
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: to hurt me. That's one that's that feels big to me,

589
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: like just from I guess more history books than what

590
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: his his followers are going to think. The president reached

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Speaker 1: up toward the front of the vehicle to grab the

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00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: steering wheel. Mr Angle from the Secret Service grabbed his arm.

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00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: Mr Trump thing used his free hand to lunge towards

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Speaker 1: body Angle and apparently for his neck. Like that feels

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00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: like a big one. He was trying to go and

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00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: be with the crowd as they were storming. And then

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00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: the part like after the fact him like and this

598
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: one feels almost like too. It feels like bad exposition

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00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: in a movie. Because so Meadows and Siboloni met with

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Speaker 1: the President and then they come out and Siboloni is like, well,

601
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: we should do more to get this attack on the capitol,

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00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: like scaled back or like to stop the attack on

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Speaker 1: the capitol, and Meadows said, you heard him, pet he

604
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: thinks Mike deserves it, which like that that is bad

605
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: him fisted like exposition. But it I mean again, people

606
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: are like, but she was there and she she knew.

607
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: So like those three details of him like having it's

608
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: not just like him being angry and rateful and unprofessional.

609
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: It's him being part of a professional attempt to overthrow

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00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: the government with weapons. Is the things that like, I

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00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: feel like are our new details that will be in

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Speaker 1: history books. I just don't know if they're going to

613
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: matter or like get him arrested, right will they will? They?

614
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Speaker 1: Who who's going to be writing the history books right now?

615
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: With all that's going on with textbooks and the history books.

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00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 1: That's another that's another episode. Yeah, that that's a that's

617
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: a very good point. They will be in his history

618
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: books from other in other country trees for sure, maybe

619
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: not in the United States. Yeah, it just seems like

620
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: there's there there is a lot of evidence right now

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00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: that we're hearing that seems very damning, right and could

622
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: shift how, you know, the outcome of him trying to

623
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Speaker 1: run for president again or whatever you know, his motives are. Again.

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00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: I just feel like I know some avid Trump supporters,

625
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: and these details just don't even phase them. It's just

626
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: fascinating like that that doesn't even face them, It doesn't

627
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't make them see him in any different light.

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Speaker 1: Because what Leela, like, I'm trying to understand, like the

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Speaker 1: ever since grab him grab them by the p you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been thing after thing after thing after thing. What

631
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Speaker 1: do people who support him say, like it doesn't matter

632
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: or all he's just kidding All boys will be boys.

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Speaker 1: Olive The above I still don't get it, and I

634
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Speaker 1: don't think I'm ever going to get it. Yeah, I

635
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Speaker 1: mean they do say all of the above. They say

636
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: that the media has has misrepresented him, twisted media, fake media.

637
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's just a lot of conversation around. Uh,

638
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: you can present all the facts, you can present all

639
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: this information, and the end it's just it's like having

640
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: a discussion, that is, it doesn't even go anywhere In

641
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: many cases which I've found, I think, I look at this,

642
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: I feel like very like personal about it because I

643
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: have had so many family members, not so many, but

644
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: I do know quite a few people. I'm from Las Vegas, Nevada.

645
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: I have some high school friends and people that I

646
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: grew up with that we've had some pretty heated discussions

647
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: about it, and there's just there seems to be no solution.

648
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: There seems to be no understanding of each other, and

649
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: we just agree to disagree and move on. So that

650
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. I'm from Sudan in East Africa, and

651
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: we have a dictator, and a lot of people love

652
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: the dictator right like like the they there's like this

653
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: idea of the strong man who's gonna take care of

654
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: all of us. It doesn't matter what he does, but

655
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: he's you know, there's the respect, and he has this

656
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: military uniform. So therefore part of it is fear of

657
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: what can happen if this person does not when like

658
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: what kind of chaos will be unleashed on us? But

659
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: there's definitely Yeah, there's definitely I've heard this before somewhere,

660
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: but just not in the US. And I think that's

661
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: what a lot of like immigrant people, immigrant families are

662
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: just like shocked by, Like we come from these countries

663
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: where this is this is the norm, and we've never

664
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: imagined this would this would be the case here in

665
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: the US, that there would be somebody like a Trump

666
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: and that end that the worst thing, that people will

667
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: actually vote for this man and support him and defend him.

668
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: It just sounds so it's just I don't know, we

669
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: didn't believe this would happen here, and it's shocking. Yeah.

670
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of people for whom

671
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: like these details make them like happy and make them

672
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: feel like he is doing what we hoped he would

673
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: do in this situation. You know, a lot of Trump supporters,

674
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: I I do just wonder about the any Republicans like

675
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: mainstream Republicans who are still left on his side. If

676
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: this like it seems like it did for this Cassidy

677
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: Hutchinson person like who went in as a loyal Trumpist

678
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: and then saw this behavior and was like you, like

679
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: you know it in terms of his electoral fortunes and

680
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: in terms of like the future of the Republican Party,

681
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: like anything that can be done to make that worse,

682
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm happy for. And I do feel like

683
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: in some ways this has to have been bad for

684
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,479
Speaker 1: any future plans they had, because I think in one case,

685
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: like it's going to be hard for them to make

686
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: a legitimate claim that like he's still he's still all

687
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: right in our book. And on the other hand, there's

688
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: absolutely no way he's not going to run just because

689
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: people told him not to, And so maybe you're gonna

690
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: have to Republican candidates not running. I mean, that's we

691
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: will see, I could. I think honestly, it also feels

692
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: like a just an overall kind of American dreadful lack

693
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: of awareness of history and world history for that matter,

694
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: whether it's like an education problem or a head in

695
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: the sand problem, Like I really think Republicans do count

696
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: on or I mean most candidates, both sides counting on

697
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: the fact that everybody is so living in the moment

698
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: and kind of, you know, in the interest of moving forward,

699
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: that we never ever look back at anything that has

700
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: happened before and pay attention to default or previous encounters

701
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: of any president we've had. It's like there's no kind

702
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: of picking up the the the the pieces of history

703
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: that have led to where we are now and saying

704
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: let's not make these mistakes again. And I think the

705
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: GOP kind of counts on that and says we could

706
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: just keep running it because they're not paying attention and

707
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: it's just going to keep happening. And whether that's a

708
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: conscious decision or just like a facet of the same

709
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: kind of problem of just a lack of awareness of history,

710
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: I guess kind of remains to be seen. But it

711
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: just feels so strongly like there's no learning moving forward.

712
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: There's just kind of repeating the same thing over and over,

713
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: and those repeated phrases getting more and more extreme. Hence

714
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: the battle over textbooks that don't want A lot of

715
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: them don't want you to know, you know, the truth

716
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: of how history actually want well, because I don't have

717
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: a great way to transition from that to the words

718
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: big cheese at toast on. We're going to take a

719
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: quick break and then we will be right back. I

720
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: mean big it big yeah, alright, okay, yeah, see this

721
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: is why I shouldn't be the host of this show.

722
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: And word back and Dan, I'm just gonna throw it

723
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: over to you because you you put this on my radar. Indeed,

724
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm ashamed to say I wasn't up on this. This

725
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 1: is one of those things where I like to text

726
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: the group chap beforehand and say, did you guys already

727
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: talked about this? And when Jack says no, my eyes

728
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: just light up. So as a little bit of context

729
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: for mean imagine most of the listeners know, but for

730
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: our wonderful guests today, we are just woefully obsessed with

731
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: fast food and all of the many facets and it's

732
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: and it's moves in terms of offering just completely off

733
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: the wall dishes to the people of the world. And

734
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: anytime one of these pops up, we all hit each

735
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: other and say, Okay, who's eating it first? And this

736
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: was another one for words too hyphen it did big

737
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: cheese it tostada. I saw that and I went, oh, baby,

738
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: we're lighting up the group chat today. So yes, that's right,

739
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: gang Taco Bell is going off once again with this

740
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: enormous cheese that's stuffed into a cruntrap Supreme, the only

741
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: supreme thing anything as far as I'm concerned, and at

742
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: the base of a tostada, and it's the next thing

743
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying this weekend when I'm making bad decisions, and

744
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about it. So you are you? Are

745
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: you scream pizza or Supreme? Uh pizza? You know I

746
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: don't like scream pizza too many peppers, but again exactly so, yeah,

747
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: I think it has the Supreme Court ruined the word

748
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 1: supreme for yes we can. Yeah, we need to supreme

749
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: change his name. They okay, So the crunch wrap Supreme,

750
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: for people who don't know, is the It looks like

751
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: a disc with a soft tortilla wrapped around it. Inside

752
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: is all of the ingredients that Taco Bell offers. I

753
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: think the beef set the season, beef, lettuce, tomatoes, one

754
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: of the dressings, cheese, and then a crispy tortilla in

755
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: the middle. Traditionally crispy tortilla, but replaced replaced with this

756
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: delicious enormous cheesy monstrosity that is the big cheese it. Mhm,

757
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 1: So it's a whole cheese it's it's a cheese it

758
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: but but it but it covers the whole sandwich or

759
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: whatever it is. The yeah kind of like yeah, you know, no,

760
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: you're good. It's just like a big circular wrap. And

761
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: then in the middle kind of step breading the meat

762
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: from the cold ingredients, which I'm that's just a revelation

763
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: in general, like you know, you're not mixed. You know,

764
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about like the meat making

765
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 1: the lemon or the the lettuce and the tomato too wilty.

766
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: You have this nice barrier in between, so you get

767
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: that bite and everything stays fresh. Amazing. And they just

768
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: replaced that genius barrier with a giant cheese it. And

769
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: I can hear people's stomachs just sing in an angel's chorus.

770
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: It is it is a gift unto us that has

771
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: been bestowed by this enormous conglomeration that isn't giving all

772
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: of this problems. Where is the cheese melted cheese underneath

773
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: and under the cheese it under the cheese it with

774
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: the meat. It appears that there is melty melty melt cheese.

775
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: I think that you are you are, you are absolutely

776
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: right about that. Yes, you have those little little bits

777
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: of cheese just sneaking through the meat. There. Of course,

778
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: every wonderful good thing comes with an unfortunate catch, and

779
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: that is the fact that this will kill you. Well,

780
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: that that is catch number A. But catch letter B

781
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: is the fact that for all of our friends outside

782
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: the the state of California, this delicious treat is only

783
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 1: available at one single Taco Bell location near the headquarters

784
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: in Irvine, California. Now, for some people, they're turning off

785
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: the podcast and say, how could you tease me with

786
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: such delicious information? But I know at least three or

787
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: four friend groups that are planning their pilgrimages as we speak, saying,

788
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: get the minivan, we're getting in the car this weekend

789
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: and we're going to Irvine. That's such an l a

790
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: adventure completely, just like when Raising Canes opened in Burbank

791
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: and all of us who were too lazy to go

792
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: down to Englewood or we're not even close enough to

793
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: the one in Alhambra, decided to finally get a taste

794
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: of that delicious chicken over in Burbank. I have a

795
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: daughter in college and she is at you see, Irvine.

796
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: We will do going down and moving her in and

797
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: visiting every weekend. Now just to try. I did not

798
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: know the Taco Bell headquarters was an Irvine. Now you know.

799
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: Now you know, Now you know. I haven't gotten the

800
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: Taco Bell in such a long time. But cheese. It

801
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: will make me go, you know, just take take that opportunity,

802
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: take that opportunity to say, you know what, they're doing

803
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: something fun and difference. I'm going to give it another shot.

804
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: I love the great They're amazing. Okay, real quick, in

805
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: your personal opinion, did extra toasty cheese? It's is that

806
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: over you? Not your bag? Okay? Just the playing old

807
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: maybe the white cheddar one. Maybe the white cheddar They're

808
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: so good. Now, Extra toasty is for people who aren't familiar.

809
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: Is like burnt cheese. They were like people like these

810
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: burnt cheeses. This is the first time that I've thought

811
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: that maybe you might need a burnt cheese it because

812
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: my one concern with this is that it gets a

813
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: little soggy, like the way that the way that a

814
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: cracker reacts to soup like sometimes, which I still't like

815
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: I I prefer a crouton because it it retains a

816
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: crunch a little bit. Where's a cracker, like if I

817
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: throw a cheese it. Although I think I have thrown cheese.

818
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: It's in soup and they hold up pretty well, so

819
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: we might be okay. I might have just talked my

820
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: way out of that one. I think you're gonna be okay.

821
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think they would have done this to us. No.

822
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: I mean, like that nice buttery cheese. It it can

823
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: find a way to kind of crumble in your hands

824
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: or melt in your mouth as it does. It's so delicious.

825
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: But I think there's a thickness quotient here that talk

826
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: about has taken into account. But considering it for the

827
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: for the structural backbone of one of their most popular items,

828
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: do you know why it's just at that one restaurant?

829
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: Like are they testing it out to see if they're

830
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: going to mass produces? You know, that's a good question.

831
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: Something tells me that it being near the HQ is

832
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: like the testing grounds. The test kitchen is at the headquarters.

833
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: And let me tell you from personal experience, you cannot

834
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: simply just go to the headquarters and asked to see

835
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: the test kitchen. Uh, they will kick you out of

836
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: the building. And better security than the Capitol building significantly. Yeah,

837
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: the person at the front was not having it. Uh No,

838
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: but I think it must be. It has to be

839
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 1: a a radius to the headquarters thing where they're just like, yeah,

840
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: thrown out there. And honestly it's succeeding. They're getting the clicks,

841
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: they're getting the talks right now from fools like me

842
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 1: who are going to see this and be like, gang,

843
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: guess what the coolest thing ever just happened? Because I

844
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: constantly starved of good news these days, and I take

845
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: it where I can get it, exactly Jesus. It's being

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Speaker 1: described as an abundantly cheesy and nostalgic yet magically modern

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Speaker 1: dining experience. How is the nostalgic? If it's just if

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Speaker 1: it's new, I think she's like for people who grew

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Speaker 1: up on cheese, it's like that. That might be, But

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask how it's modern because Taco

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Speaker 1: Bell is not is not breaking any new ground here there.

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Speaker 1: They're still around her recome has no idea. She doesn't

853
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Speaker 1: do the junk like I do. Good for you, it's

854
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Speaker 1: going to be like a French fast food restaurant. I

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Speaker 1: can get free drive through, we can get a little

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Speaker 1: bit of okay, bougie, Yeah, how a little bougie. I'm

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Speaker 1: a little bougie. Yeah no, but we used to do

858
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Speaker 1: like the Taco Bell used to have, like the sorry

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Speaker 1: fifty nine cent tacos, remember that back in the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you would get like six of them. Yeah, get

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Speaker 1: the box a little thing, bring it to a party

862
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Speaker 1: or nobody's nobody's mad at that. Why is it sounding

863
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Speaker 1: like a Fergie song? Doesn't Fergie has a have a

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Speaker 1: song where she starts off like I was at the

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Speaker 1: Taco Bell when I was little. That sounds like a

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Speaker 1: horrible and know I swear there is a Fergie song

867
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Speaker 1: where she starts off slide and then that's the life

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Speaker 1: in the first line, thank you justin Glamorous, Glamorous by Fergie,

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Speaker 1: I still going to talk about drive through. Raw's hell,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm still real no matter how many

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Speaker 1: records I sell. Yeah, people, that was Jack Harlow. He

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Speaker 1: sampled Glamorous for his song I don't yea to the rescue,

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Speaker 1: the rescue, thank you, thank you, Justin. It's also go

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Speaker 1: to the Taco Bell drive through raw as hell ye

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Speaker 1: and shout out to it t easy regular Christie, I'm

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Speaker 1: a Gucci man for iterating the same kind of idea

877
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Speaker 1: with their now extremely viral tweet about you gol go

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Speaker 1: to Taco Bell at midnight and still find a like

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Speaker 1: Mercedes you know, Cel thirty five am g right in

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Speaker 1: front of four people piled on top of a Vespa,

881
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Speaker 1: right in front of like a broken down car with

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Speaker 1: somebody in it. Everybody's eating Taco Bell. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: tried to go through a Taco Bell drive through on

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Speaker 1: foot and then turned away, then I don't know what

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Speaker 1: to tell you. For the record, to them on a

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Speaker 1: bike is the same as on foot, even though I'm like,

887
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Speaker 1: I'm in a vehicle, like, no, you're not. Oh, they

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Speaker 1: won't let you. I only tried it walking because I

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Speaker 1: didn't have a bike. I was way too drunk it

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Speaker 1: through in the morning. Before bikes were like before city

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Speaker 1: before yeah, before before these bicycles, these newfangled bicycles. I

892
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Speaker 1: was on a penny farthing and I was too drunk

893
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: to stay up top about your podcast that we stayed

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00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: on this longer than the January six hearings. Uh says

895
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Speaker 1: that we have a good show that we cover all

896
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Speaker 1: the different angles of our societal decline. I think both

897
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Speaker 1: the saw cultural and the political. Well good, Leila, you

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Speaker 1: know it's been truly a pleasure having you on t

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Speaker 1: d Z. Where can people find you? Follow you all

900
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 1: that good stuff. You can hear us on all podcasts platforms,

901
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: the Stup Podcast stories about the black diaspora, and yeah,

902
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: we're going into our eighth season. You can also Uh

903
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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at the Stup Podcast and on

904
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: Instagram the same handle. It's so good. Everybody needs to

905
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: go listen. Is there a tweet or some work of

906
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: social media that you've been enjoying. I I've been enjoying these.

907
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: Mark Lamont Hill is a black journalist and I love

908
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: his his his speed because it gives you a mix

909
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: of news and nonsense and we need both right at

910
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: the same time. So there's this thread that I've been

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Speaker 1: following on Instagram though not on Twitter, and it's Black

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00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: Music Month, so he's been posting these like what's the

913
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: song everybody else loves that you hate? Or like what's

914
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: the song that you can't get out of your head?

915
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: Like that? And then people would reply, so this is

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00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: the one I love from day eleven of Black Music Month.

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Speaker 1: A song everybody else hates. I'm sorry, A song everybody

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00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: else loves that you hate. And it's hilarious because you know,

919
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: people would put a song up like this is how

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00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: We Do It by Montel Jordan's and then like they'd

921
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Speaker 1: get a hundred and ten likes and like replies they're

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Speaker 1: just like, you know, how can you not like that song?

923
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: But it's it's just therapeutic because I found a couple

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Speaker 1: of the songs on here, like Return of the mac

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00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: m everybody everybody loves it, I don't like it too much,

926
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Speaker 1: and that this is the thread where you can just

927
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Speaker 1: let it go and not be judged. Wow. I like that.

928
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Speaker 1: That's good. We need that. Yeah, I like that. I

929
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: gotta tweet Evan sent into some peeps because it's kind

930
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: of resonating with me right now. And it's from I

931
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Speaker 1: don't know who this is that she calls herself divine

932
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Speaker 1: and she just says, stop being the one who makes

933
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Speaker 1: all the effort, sit back and let the ship sink.

934
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Speaker 1: And I know, I know, but I thought about this

935
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Speaker 1: because I have so many people in my life when

936
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Speaker 1: something goes wrong, they're just always trying to fix it.

937
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: Something goes wrong at work, They're like, I have the solution,

938
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Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. I can save

939
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Speaker 1: this I can save this project. And sometimes you're the

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: only person doing that and no everyone else has just

941
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Speaker 1: kind of got their heads down doing their thing. And

942
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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this a lot, because we do

943
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: stories about the black diasper, and I've been thinking about

944
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: as black people, how it's kind of ingrained in us

945
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: to fix things, whether it's our parents saying like we

946
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: need equal you know, you know, to stand up for yourself.

947
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Speaker 1: I feel like it's ingrained in my by my parents

948
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: about like civil rights and just uh, sticking up for

949
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: the underdog. And I always done that, but I think

950
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Speaker 1: that sometimes we tend to carry that over into circumstances.

951
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: But we don't always need to be that person and

952
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: carry that weight. And sometimes other people need to carry

953
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: the weight for you, and you can let them know

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00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: that I've cared, I've carried enough, and maybe it's your

955
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 1: time to step up. So I've been sharing that with

956
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: a few people that I know have always been stepping

957
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Speaker 1: up and always put the weight on their backs. That

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Speaker 1: sometimes it's okay to step back. M that's a great message, Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you? Is there a

960
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying? You can find

961
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Speaker 1: me on all the social media is and whatnot? Said

962
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Speaker 1: DJ Underscore Daniel. You can find me on Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't post. I don't post frequent

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Speaker 1: frequently enough for my TikTok to be popping or anything

965
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: like that. But if you want to watch the old

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Speaker 1: video game clips, oh they're there. Um, and my work

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00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: of social media is, as you can imagine, big cheese.

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Speaker 1: It related. So CNN posted about the Big Cheese that

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Speaker 1: and then someone replied, looks really gross. What we call

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Speaker 1: food in America? Geez. And the response to that was

971
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Speaker 1: it's called culinary expert pardon me, it's called culinary experimentation

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Speaker 1: and it's the mark of strong culture. And I couldn't

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Speaker 1: agree with that more. Thank you. That was from at

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Speaker 1: Joe Clever at jo Underscore Clever Underscore, K. That's very funny,

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Speaker 1: good job. But yeah, that's my piece of social media

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Speaker 1: that I'm liking, and I'm sticking to it, all right.

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying shirts that Go Hard. The Twitter twitter

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Speaker 1: handle called shirts that go Hard. They're the one they

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Speaker 1: have pinned is a shirt that says more Bous and

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Speaker 1: it has a drawing of more bus with like a

981
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Speaker 1: crystal ball in front of him and then orb is

982
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 1: like in a different color in his name. There's one

983
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Speaker 1: that says I'm not a player, I'm a gamer. Players

984
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Speaker 1: get chicks. I get bullied at school and they're they're

985
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: just like great old shirts that they dug up somewhere

986
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Speaker 1: and I enjoy it. You can find me on Twitter

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01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter

988
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have Facebook fan page and website Daily zeit geis

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Speaker 1: dot com. We post our episodes on our foot notes

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Speaker 1: or link off to the information that we talked about

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we

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Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Dani'll hit us with the music

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Speaker 1: recommendation I got you from a artist who I discovered

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Speaker 1: during the pandemic that an awesome live set, who actually

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Speaker 1: recommended that live step before. Swarty just released a new

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Speaker 1: album called Compact Objects with a animation that goes with it.

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Speaker 1: But the song is called cold Man by Swarty. You

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Speaker 1: can listen to it on Spotify Amazing tune. The whole album,

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Speaker 1: Compact Objects, is just really enjoyable, happy music, and um,

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Speaker 1: I recommend it to literally everyone. It isn't it isn't

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Speaker 1: They like, you've got to be a fan of x

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Speaker 1: y Z. Sure everybody can enjoy this, So I recommend

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Speaker 1: cold Man by Sword. All right, we'll go check that

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Speaker 1: out in the foot notes. The Daily zeit Geis is

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Speaker 1: a production by Heart Radio from more Pope cast for

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio is the I Heart Radio, wapp Apple

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Speaker 1: Podcaster or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That

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Speaker 1: he's going to do it for us this morning, but

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Speaker 1: we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you all that right Bye

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