WEBVTT - Talkin' Shots: A Mixed Bag 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:07.400 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.440 --> 0:00:16.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick Shot, 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.200 streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.919 Dallas Cowboys app. Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:39.600 and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's time for 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:46.800 another edition of mix Shots inside the SWBC podcast studio 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.560 at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco, and the 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.800 star of the show, Mickey Spagnola is here. Hi, Mickey, Hi, Bill, 0:00:56.040 --> 0:01:01.440 how are you? I? Bill Jones, heck my Harrison is 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:06.000 here and Rob Phillips is here as well. I love 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:10.600 this cast of characters. Characters you didn't talk about Rob 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:15.000 like that. Mickey. I stole this from you. I knew 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.640 you were going to be bringing your note book here. 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:22.440 You got notes. Oh my gosh, heck I myself. That's Bill, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:28.200 that's Bill, that's Jones. Yeah, we love note books. It here. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.720 We were all school it here. Yeah, slack and bring 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.280 this pH and nothing else. Brings his phone. Yeah, but 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.880 Rob's got everything on his phone from all the interviews 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:42.360 out there. Good point. That good point, Mickey. We just 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:46.600 interviewed about twelve position coaches yeah, well the entire staff. 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.720 I want to hear all about that. But first and 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.880 do you realize do you realize that that's the first 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:57.040 time we've talked to these guys in like forever. Did 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:03.280 we talk to Joe Phillman last year? Because training camp 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.280 maybe I'm trying to remember even now, we talked to 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.320 Joe Witt in training camp. I remember that. I don't 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:14.440 know if we ever got George Edwards and I think 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.720 we talked to Wit maybe because dan Quinn was COVID 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:23.280 restricted or whatever. Was that training camp we camp? But yes, 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:26.240 it's very it's been very limited since and I guarantee 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:29.040 you we haven't had a chance to introduce ourselves to 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:33.359 all those guys COVID man, right because last year, Yeah, 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.440 last year, we never saw any of the assistants. As 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.519 a matter of fact, with Rob Davis, the assistant head coach. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.960 So the day of the draft, I was in the 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.160 TV room and I was doing something with McCarthy because 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:49.720 we were going to do something for outdoor party whatever, 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:52.160 and Rob Davis was in there and he got done 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.679 and he came in introduced himself to me, and I go, yeah, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.560 it's been you've been here a whole year. I didn't 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:59.000 think I'd ever meet you guys, and he goes, oh, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:04.440 come on, mix wow, wow, the real star of the show. 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.080 So I'm not sure you know, we had the open 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.400 was mixed shots, but really it should have been a 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:14.040 combination of talking cowboys and talking shots. Yeah, talking shots 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:19.080 are taking, are taking. I love it, you know, And 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:23.200 I'm trying to remember back when Talking Cowboys first started, Rob, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.600 and you were in the school desk. Thanks for reminding 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.359 everybody that, Bill, Yes, and we did. We were was 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.799 the internet around and you took you were taking because 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.560 it was because we were. We were you were checking emails, right, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.800 yeahmale existed. Yeah, it was two thousand and four. I 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.800 was trying to remember if cell phones exist, it is 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.400 that you were on your cell phone then? No, Twitter 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.960 didn't it just maybe we're on a better place back then. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:50.280 You were on a little laptop there. Definitely we were 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:54.240 about six years away from Twitter. Yes, that's right, Yes, 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.080 it was a TV show initially. Heck what year that 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.840 was two thousand and four? Four? Okay, heck, but where 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:04.480 were you in two thousand and four? I was man leaving. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.600 Uh I was it in Puerto Rico? Oh, okay, yeah, 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.400 all right, So can we ask what you were doing there? 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.440 I was going to school, all right, school in Puerto Rico. Okay, 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:24.599 getting a tan mick. All right. So is there news 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.120 coming out of the position coaches and media sessions today 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.960 or this is just a get to know you session? No, no, 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:32.880 it wasn't get to know I don't know that there 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.200 was any breaking news out there. No more of just 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.080 a feel of how each group is doing. Asking about 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:43.840 specific players, Yeah, Joe Filman talked a lot about, you know, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.839 Terrence Steele's development, Lyle Collins coming back, what that mix 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:52.600 might look like in the future, George Edwards, Scott McCurley 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.200 talking about Micah Parsons development, stuff like that. No, no real, 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:00.400 no real breaking, no bombshells. Yeah, yeah, but it is 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.400 a bye week bill. It is nice to have that 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.159 opportunity to talk with well, yeah, we don't, we don't. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.800 We didn't get that usually in training camp after practice 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:10.080 you could walk off with them as they were going in, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.560 and we didn't have that opportunity. And really where we 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.920 got the best opportunity to talk with him outside of 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:20.480 training camp was in the springtime during OTA's where back 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.479 in the day where we were free to roam. Yes, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.760 then we would get him coming off the field at practice. 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:31.160 And that's gone away now and it certainly has. And 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.279 you know what, are we six weeks into the season 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.000 and that's the first contact we've had with a bunch 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:40.920 of those guys. So yes, absolutely, all right, so we 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.400 get started here. And did you happen to see the 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.600 Monday night game the end of the Monday night game 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.960 last night? Absolutely? Okay? I did not. How about I 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.680 fell asleep in my chair, I woke I woke up 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.880 in this Yeah, my son had a basketball I had 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.479 a football game last night, So well tell him what 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.960 happened too. Oh, bunch of house calls and stuff like that. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.839 He'll be a guy that Bill Jones will be talking 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.120 about it pretty soon. Now. How old is he? He's fourteen? Fourteen? 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.080 Where's he play? He's at Strady, He's at Trady Middle School. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.679 He's a wide receiver. He x not paying for college? 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.839 Yeah no not so what high school will he go to? 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.840 We're still trying to decide, Bill, Okay, there's a lot 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.960 to choose from out there. He's being who gives the 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:29.040 most money. I know, I know, I know the coach 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:34.440 at South Lake, you're the mayor or something that hurt already. 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.960 They've had some wide receivers, they got some quarterbacks in 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:41.400 oh yeah, yeah and there, even though they opt out sometimes. 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.560 So what was your question? All right, fourth and once 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:49.080 it relates to the Cowboys and fourth and ones, okay, 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.320 last night, it comes down to the end of the 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:55.800 game and Sean McDermott, the coach for Buffalo. It's a 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:59.680 thirty four thirty one game, and they could get a 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.160 first down. There were one yard away from the goal 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:05.360 line too, and so it's the end of regulation and 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:08.360 he makes the decision to go forward on fourth and 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.920 inches with how much time was twenty seconds something like 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:17.000 that in that range instead of kicking what field goal 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.560 that would have insured overtime, and he went for it 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:23.480 and they got stopped Josh Allen on a quarterback sneak 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.320 get stopped? Who would run a quarterback sneak for one 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.960 yard out? And on the previous play Allan had scrambled 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.040 and almost got the first thing he did by the way, 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.400 you know, I think that was close. Saw that replay. 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.400 The replay was a pretty good indicator where that he 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.920 was short that yeah, where if you look where the 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.760 ball was. It seemed because they had pretty good technology 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.520 there on the replay on TV anyway, where it showed 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.680 where the first down? Now, why didn't Josh Allen do 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.320 a dack in because he was going backwards into Yeah 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.320 he was, I mean no, I meant on the third play, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.000 I'm saying on the fourth down he fell, he slipped 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.280 who was it that the defensive and crashed and hit 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.200 him and it happened so fast he lost his footing 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:18.080 right yeah, So so so anyway, just my question is, 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:22.720 and we've seen it over the last several years the end, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.480 we were seeing it more and more going forward on 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.720 fourth down. I'm gonna give you a history, and I 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.200 know that analytics plays a little big part in it. 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.360 Didn't So here we go. So was as tech s 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:37.800 Ram said, was Vince Lombardi wrong going for it at 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:42.920 the goal line in that playoff game up in Green Bay? 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.319 What year was that? Nineteen sixty seven? Sixty seven? And 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.959 I fell championship game and he could have kicked a 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.440 field goal to send it into overtime? Was there a 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.640 guarantee they're gonna be able to make the field goal 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.960 on ice? Well, there wasn't, but there wasn't a guarantee 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.559 that he was going to have there at the pretty 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.400 good guarantee that Jethro Pugh and Bob Lily wouldn't have 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.760 footing either. Well, keeping from getting into they didn't have 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.800 footing on the play, did that? That's right? Yeah, neither team, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:14.640 which the point being, the point being that there are 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:20.840 circumstances that in every situation that make a decision different 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.600 from one game to another. As Tech Shram said, it 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.400 was the worst coaching decision he had ever seen that 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:29.880 they went for it. And I wonder how Tech would 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:34.120 have felt about Philadelphia in nineteen ninety four on fourth 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.520 and one at the twenty nine yard line and Barry 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:38.920 Switzer decides to go for it. Yeah twice would have 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.440 probably thought that that was not real. Oh the old 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:45.160 load left. Yeah, they didn't work out so good. It didn't. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.520 But really it didn't work out three times, but actually 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.280 even on that one. But now we're seeing teams go 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.360 for it on fourth and one at their own thirty nine. 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:59.960 We saw in several years ago Bill Belichick same situation 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:02.840 on a fourth and one at the twenty nine yard line. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.360 I think against the Colts. He went forth, they got stopped. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:10.240 It's just more and more. It's the philosophy has changed 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:14.200 at every level of football, where teams go for it 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:15.760 now on fourth down. You know what, I may tell 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.200 you how smart I was at fourteen years old watching 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.280 that the play in the Ice Bowl. I yelled at 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:23.760 my fart because I was a Packers fan. I yelled 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.520 at my father, I go, what's he doing? If they 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.440 don't make it, they're gonna lose the game. You gotta 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:31.439 kick the field goal, which would have tied it, yes, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:36.120 and forced overtime. Yep, just like last night. Go ahead. No, 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.880 you know in nineteen sixty seven. I mean, he has 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:40.960 all my attention right now trying to figure out what 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.920 you were doing in fourteen years I'd telling you, Dad, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.160 you should have kicked the field goal. I mean, in 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:48.280 history rewards the Bowl. So I guess I was a 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.319 nerd back there watching every Packer game. I can get 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.320 my nerd. You were a middle linebacker at Chicago Heights. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.600 That's right, right, my god. Okay, so to ask you 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:00.000 how cold the press box was, Mick, yeah right, yeah. 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.960 So just in general, Okay, let's put her put ourselves 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.840 in the shoes of Sean McDermott last night. If Mike 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:12.800 McCarthy would have made that also blistered. But also figure Tennessee, 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.920 Derrick Henry had three touchdowns in that game. They weren't 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.240 stopping him all night long. If you're going into overtime, yeah, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.199 they were in Nashville. Okay, So what do you do 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.040 facing fourth and as Switzer would put fourth in a 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.840 damn foot and you're basically if you score it in 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.200 your yard away from the goal line too and fan 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:39.080 a touchdown, a game winning touchdown, you're that close to 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:42.400 winning the game. Or do you kick the field goal 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:46.640 for overtime? What do you think I was for going 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:50.640 for it and ending the game right there? Yeah, And 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:52.560 I think that's what teams are doing more now. I 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.559 think teams, I mean every situation, this is a different situation. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.760 You could still extend the game. But I think teams 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:02.440 are realizing the way passing offenses are now and the 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.960 way the game has changed, field goals don't matter anymore. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.840 They just you can't kick field goals and expect to 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:11.840 win football games. And so if you and especially if 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:14.360 you've got a Josh Allen who's six four and can 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.600 just dive forward and get a foot. Tom Brady has 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.760 made a career out of that. Do it. You know 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.120 it's ballsy, but that's the way the game has changed. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.840 Three points isn't gonna cut it against the Dallas Cowboys 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.200 or against teams that are that good offensively. Now, I 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.400 think it's all situational awareness for these head coaches, especially 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.520 when you talk about the night that Henry had and 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.920 not being able to stop him. I think you want 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.160 to end it right there. I'm more on the conservative side. 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.840 I would kick a field goal and take them until 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:43.480 over time. Well, and there's a couple of different areas 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.480 I want to explore on it, because it's kind of 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.920 the same principle as a two point conversion. Let's say, 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:56.160 let's say it was paint this scenario where Buffalo scores 0:12:56.200 --> 0:12:58.720 their one point down. Now they're at the two yard line, 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.800 going for two to win the game or kicking it 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:07.480 and forcing overtime. That was essentially the situation they were 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.400 in last night, however, the difference being all they needed 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.679 was a damn foot to get the first down. And 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:18.240 that's just just happened recently in college somebody went for two. Oh, 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.440 that happens a lot, so it was it was Arkansas. 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:23.559 Arkansas did last week he gets ole miss and they 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.679 missed and he missed, right, But I think he factored 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.160 in this is as close as we're going to come 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.199 from winning the game because we're not stopping him in overtime. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.440 A couple of years ago, Gary Patterson did it for 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:39.640 TCU was playing at Oklahoma and they were a decided underdog, 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.880 and I understood exactly, And as an OU fan, I said, 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.720 oh no, please, don't go for two. He went for two, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.000 and Stephen Parker, who's been in and out with the Cowboys, 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.280 made the play to win the game for OU. And 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.760 so I certainly understand it when you're an underdog going 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.320 for it. Buffalo, you might be the best team up 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.440 until last night, you were the best team in the AFC, 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.959 maybe in football, and um go as a score in 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.760 the final score of that game thirty one. Yeah, their defense, right, 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:10.920 although that's the that's the thing with Derrick Henry and 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.280 then you're getting into an overtime scenario. And that's why 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.960 I think situational awareness Again, if you're playing a game 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.160 where you're not stopping these guys and you have an 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.960 opportunity to end the game. I would agree right there, 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.600 but you you make a valid point with who they 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.560 were are. It's Buffalo the team, the way that they 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.080 are perceived. They are looked upon as a powerhouse, you know, 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.480 squad right now, And you're surprised. I know, I was 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.800 surprised to hear about it the next morning that they 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.240 went for it the way that they did because they 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.920 do have the best best defense in the league last year. Now. 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:46.160 Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry, Yeah, so it I agree with you. 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.560 It's situational where Okay, let's just you know what, I'll 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.960 guarantee you that, let's bring it back to the Cowboys, 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.200 and I was about on their on their final drive 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.520 and regulation, I'll guarantee you they weren't playing for a 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.960 field goal. They ended up having to kick the field 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.320 goal to tie it. I guarantee you their idea was, 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.200 we need to go score a touchdown, right and in overtime. 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.000 You know, I think everybody was thinking and I think 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.040 New England was thinking this too. But the way they 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:16.160 ran the play for the winning touchdown that oh, they're 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:19.200 just gonna throw underneath these tight ends, nibble get some 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:23.440 more yards and then they're a minute fourteen in the game, 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.320 you're saying that the plan was to go down to 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.240 score touchdown and not play for the field goal. And 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.680 I liked what Zeke said afterwards. He goes, we were 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.840 thinking six the whole time. We wanted six. And I 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.800 think the way New England played it, they took away 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.840 jar Went, they took away Schultz, and they forgot about 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.520 Cedee Lamb crossing across the middle. I mean, there's just 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.520 too many options on this offense right right. And Kellen 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.680 Moore spoke yesterday about how they were persistent with the 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.200 running game. You look at the time of possession on 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.200 Sunday and they it was thirty six to twenty one 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.480 or something. It was crazy, and I think they wore 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.320 them down and got the play action going. And I 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.760 just think it which is a point where there's too 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.160 many options for defensive offend over sixty minutes. I mean, 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:11.200 it's crazy right now. Twenty six, yeah, thirty nine, twenty 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.680 six of the overtime. I think the overtime, I think 0:16:13.680 --> 0:16:15.240 they felt like they were wearing him down, were not 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.240 a chance to go in and they were seeing the game. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.760 That's the beautiful thing about having Tony Romo up in 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.440 that booth. They were seeing the game much like what 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.600 Tony Romo was up in the booth, and he was 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.920 calling it earlier on that same play that was the 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.320 scoring play, and they called time out on the previous possession, 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.280 and Romo said, oh, they've got it right there, and 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.520 they called time Oh they called time out, but he 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.520 was and he tellustrated it. And it was actually with 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.840 was it receiver wide receiver Hooper maybe okay, but he 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.000 was split out further wide. It was more of a 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.520 bunch formation with CD. But it was the same concept 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.640 with that with a play fake role right and the 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.000 receiver on the far left comes across the field. So 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.800 they were seeing they knew that they had it. They 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.480 had that play in their back pocket, just like Romo 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.920 was telling us in the broadcast. But you know, initially 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:10.399 they obviously the mentality may have been to go and score. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.440 But you gotta think on the past to cede Lamb 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.119 across the middle, I think what was that second and 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.560 third and thirty five or something like that, because of 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.200 the penalty third and twenty five, So I mean, they 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.200 had to pick up a lot of yard is at 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.639 that point to even be you know, in the area 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.560 to kick a field goal right and then and so 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.320 now you're fourth and one. Um back on that one, 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.800 I was saying, what a second we lost? Well lost 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.520 it down there? What happened because on TV they didn't 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.680 explain that it was the unsportsmanlike conduct, was a dead 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.640 ball foul and uh. And so I'm sitting there, I'm 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.960 looking at my place sheet going, wait, it's it's third down. 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.200 It's not fourth down. Why are they kicking it? I mean, 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.480 they could have declined, they had the option, they could 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.720 have been taken the dot. But even with the yards 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:56.480 that it's a fifteen yard so I'm thinking I thought 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.480 that it would I happened. I thought the unsportsman like 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.080 They ruled that it happened in the course of the 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.480 play and not a dead ball. And the reason that 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:07.640 they were they took it was because of the yardage. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.600 But obviously they took it not only because the yardage, 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.399 but the loss of down too. The other thing on 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.639 the fourth and one, after the block punt in the 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.800 first half, Cowboys are in that it's not the end 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:20.440 of the game, but they're in a scenario where you 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:22.720 score a touchdown, you're taking the lead in the game. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.000 Did anyone have a problem with going for it on 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:28.400 fourth down at the goal line on the quarterback sneaks. 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.159 No with that, No, they didn't either. It didn't even 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.240 occur to me to kick it, because let's just get 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.080 that chip in that football, man. Yeah, we have to. 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:37.520 I mean there's going to be something about that on 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:40.680 our show. We've been talking about technology for a while 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.800 on our show. But you know, I thought he scored 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.000 on third down and obviously they didn't call it. Clearly 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.879 he did. Yeah. But also and Nick just brought this up, 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.160 and I think this is a great point, even going 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.359 for it on fourth down right there. If you don't 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.040 get it, the team gets the ball at the one 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.919 yard line and you put your defense back out and 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.359 that's advantageous. But it's a touchback and it comes back 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:01.920 out to it's five. So no, they isn't work in you. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.400 They didn't work in your favorite at all. Jerry. 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