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Speaker 1: Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson, and we're talking free

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Speaker 1: on Monday with the legal tamping tampering period and then

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Speaker 1: uh full free agency will start on Wednesday. And Mett

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Speaker 1: obviously I think the you know, a lot of the

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Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time last week at the

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Speaker 1: You know, uh, even Jacoby Brissette. Um, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Prissette for a second. Okay, I like prett I mean

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Speaker 1: The Marcus Mariota stuff. Um, we talked about him some

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota fan. Yeah, there's something that things that things

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Speaker 1: he just can't stay healthy. That's a good one. It's

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Speaker 1: you know you can't trade for damage goods. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: let's talk offensive line. Um, we talked about this a lot,

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Speaker 1: I think last week and I think we're both on

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Speaker 1: Steelers get older for lack of better, for lack of better,

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Speaker 1: got some you know, he's got some some he's a

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Speaker 1: good playing ability. Yeah, he's he's a tree number three.

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Speaker 1: I think you're looking at. Uh. I've been asked about

423
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder doesn't really move the needle for me, but yeah,

424
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean I'd like a little better than there than that. Yeah,

425
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, you need to guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: really kind of made some things happen. He kind of

439
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: bounced around a little bit. But last year in with

440
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: the Raiders was okay, was a Jones. Yeah, yeah, he

441
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: can be a slot and he can do both. He's

442
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: better than I thought. He was never from me before,

443
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: but he's been better than I thought. I looked at

444
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: him too. He's still young. Yeah, um, you know did

445
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: he go uh Zack Pascal? Yeah, he's okay. You know again,

446
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: you're you're he's better than what you have right now

447
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: on the roster. I haven't given up on Anthony Miller.

448
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: I haven't either, right that that's a good point. I

449
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: don't know these guys are noticeably better than him, but

450
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna get six million, five million. Yeah,

451
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: we're a Byron, you know, Byron Pringle, who's name I

452
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: was thinking of. Yeah, that would interest me. I think

453
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: he's a good player. Um again, you can still draft one.

454
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: You probably should draft one. But unless it is the

455
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: need to draft one early, right right right, you can

456
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: line up and play with the for sure is your

457
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: third receiver? Um one name that interests me. I don't

458
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: think he's for the Steelers or nor am I implying

459
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: that they should call him up. But I think there's

460
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Speaker 1: a chance someone gets a real bargain with Will Fuller

461
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: again that hell yeah, so that somebody would be somebody

462
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: other than me, because the injury history is it's just ridiculous.

463
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: Um real quickly applying him for one year, six or

464
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: seven million dollar deal and if you play twelve games

465
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: you win, yeah, real quick. Let's look look at the

466
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: cornerback market, and you know, if the Steelers don't sign

467
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Speaker 1: resign a Kello Witherspoon or Joe Hayden, Uh they're going

468
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: to be looking in this market and this is an

469
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: expensive what they're not signing J. C. Jackson, that's not happening.

470
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean you can't get a guy here

471
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 1: who could step in. Um, you know, the high ticket

472
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: item to me is Carlton Davis. Yeah, and I don't

473
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: see the Steelers jumping into that market either. That's you know,

474
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 1: you're talking fifteen plus million a year and say he's

475
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: definitely fifteen ish to make point by first contract, big physical,

476
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: you'd love to add him. He'd be an upgrade and

477
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: a youth upgrade. Um, really good player, but you gotta

478
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: pay for him. I mean again, this is a dangerous

479
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: market to get into. What do you think about Levi Wallace? Interested?

480
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: I would. I don't think he's a true starter though,

481
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: and I think he's a three like I think Hayden

482
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: is better than him. Right now, I would rather probably

483
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: have Witherspoon. Yeah, I'm talking again. We're talking if if

484
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: neither one of those guys or one of those guys comes,

485
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Speaker 1: if they get one of those two guys, let's say

486
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: they get Hayden or one of those two guys back

487
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: that I'm looking for a true slot Yes, that's what

488
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: I want. Names or Chris Harris, I mean, he's had

489
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries to here's the one to keep

490
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Speaker 1: an on. And there's another one to keep an eye on,

491
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: Justin Coleman. Okay, yeah, there's a lot Miami. Miami signed

492
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: him last year. Yeah, he was huge money. And where

493
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: was he at before? He was with Allions? Do you

494
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: know he was with the Patriots? He was He cut

495
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: his teeth with with Brian Floris with the Patriots. Yeah,

496
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: that's the one to keep an eye on there. And

497
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: he's not a bad player. No, he's not a bad

498
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: player at all. Um. The two names I think will

499
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: be expensive and people are probably like why are they

500
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: expensive because they're not a household names or early picks.

501
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: But they're both young. They're both twenty five. Is tar

502
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: Various Ward from the Chiefs and DJ Reid from Seattle.

503
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: I think those guys are gonna make good money, but

504
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: they're steeler like signings coming off the first contract getting

505
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: better every year like guys. Yeah, one other slot that

506
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: wanted to throw out there just before we take a

507
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: break here, Uh, the Ravens cut Tavon Young earlier this week. Yeah,

508
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: and they gave Tavon Hung two years ago a massive contract,

509
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: like eight million dollars a year, and he's had some

510
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: injury issues. Last year he was healthy all year. Um,

511
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: some of these recycled guys like Coleman and Young are interesting.

512
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that angle that at one point

513
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years, somebody gave them a

514
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: They were highly regarded slut quarterbacks and they really didn't

515
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: do much wrong. It probably weren't great contracts when they

516
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 1: were given out. Yeah, but they've had injuries or they

517
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: were over so they got cut because it's a bad contract.

518
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: But they played good football, right. I mean even last year,

519
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: if you look at Tavon Young, he wasn't a problem

520
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: in the Ravens defense. They're outside guys were the issue.

521
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: All right. Now he can still play. I mean he

522
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: had two sacks, he had an interception. Um, you know,

523
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: he did fine for them last year, but it was

524
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: just too easy to throw on the outs. That's why

525
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm looking here at spot track and spot track has

526
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: Anthony of Rhett. Uh Anthony of Rhett's contract market value

527
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: on spot track is unbelievable. They're saying, Anthony of rett

528
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: Is gonna get a twelve point four million dollar contract, Folks,

529
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to shop in that market. Teams in

530
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: your own division should pay you to take him, so

531
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: you can throw it at him twice here. He's just bad.

532
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: It's I think it's, you know, an easier market again

533
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: to find those slot guys and then work your way out.

534
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: That's why you you take your chances on some of

535
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: the bigger corners later in the draft. I hope that

536
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: you can develop them because those guys are so expensive. Yes,

537
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean, how about Mike Hughes, former first round pick.

538
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: You might be yeah, I mean that would be a

539
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: very Mike Tomlin like move right, right right, try to

540
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: recycle his career more of an outside guy. I mean,

541
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: there's a couple of those type of dudes out there.

542
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm Resul Rezul Douglas. Douglas had a really good year. Yeah,

543
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: he was on Oakland. He was on the Raiders practice squad. Right,

544
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: he got signed off their practice squad in Green Bay

545
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: turned him. You know, he all of a sudden goes

546
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: a Green Bay and he's playing his butt off. But

547
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: you know, those are the kind of guys that you

548
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: can get. You're not gonna break to the bank doing so. Um,

549
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: you know, you take a chance on it. I'd bring

550
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: in maybe even a couple of those guys and say, okay, guys,

551
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're not gonna guarantee you anything here. Fight

552
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: it out. Fight it out. Yeah, and Witherspoon could be

553
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: in that conversation too. If you bring Hayden back, he's

554
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: started right, you know what I mean. But if you

555
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: brought two or three of those guys, Douglas and Witherspoon

556
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and figure it out and maybe they both are starters,

557
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: and Sutton goes a slot and you know, so one

558
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: other name I wanted to mention to you, how about

559
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: Dante Jackson. I thought he was overdrafted because he's such

560
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: a good speed guy. But that doesn't matter now you

561
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: know he's coming to his first contract. He's twenty six

562
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: years old. I don't think it'll be crazy expensive. I

563
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: don't think so either, because he's he's not super big, right. Um,

564
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's not a physical I mean, they prefer

565
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: physical corners. He's not the he doesn't chew glass and

566
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: great tackler, you know. I mean, he's a little higher

567
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: on himself than he probably should. Be but this is

568
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: a time, you know, I mean at the right price. Yeah,

569
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean he's got twelve interceptions and yeah, you want

570
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: you want to take the ball away. That's the kind

571
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: of guy that you want. Um. You know that's you know,

572
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: That's my thing with Witherspoon is he's not a super

573
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: physical guy. No, right, right, So you know what are

574
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: they looking for there? What do they want to do? Um?

575
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: Coends me to the whole bigger conversation is because you

576
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: bring in the Patriot Dolphins way, which I don't know

577
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: if they're gonna change their defense, but those are the

578
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: two teams that pay for corners and put them on

579
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: islands a lot. Where the Steelers say, we lead the

580
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: league in sacks every year. Our corners just aren't gonna

581
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: have to cover long you know, right, we want them

582
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: to take That's the thing, you know when they when

583
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: they made the change the defensive coordinator, Um, they moved

584
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: to a defense they one of the they want of

585
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: their cornerbacks instead of being more the guys who just

586
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: tackled the catch. That was just tackle the catch. So

587
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: you can live with like Taylor you know and his

588
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: his you know, one in every two seasons they decided

589
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: in they wanted to get more aggressive on the back

590
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: end and start taking the ball away more. And you

591
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: saw that with some of the players that they drafted.

592
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 1: It didn't always work out, but they wanted guys who

593
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: were capable of taking the ball away. And they play

594
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: more man coverage now than they used to. And yeah,

595
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: they vury things quite a bit. I think they might

596
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: spend some money at Corner. Yeah, um, bring back your own.

597
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: It might be Haytingan Witherspoon, but or one. But I

598
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: think they're going to have a couple of at least

599
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: one pretty substantial contract at Corner. Yeah. I mean that's

600
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: just a going rape for that. So yeah, we'll see

601
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: what happens with that. But we're gonna take another break.

602
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: He has Matt Williams and I am Dale Lully're listening

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Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers National Radio. We'll be

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