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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys football Club. This is mick Shots,

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Speaker 1: streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are. It's another edition

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Speaker 1: of mix Shots, and I guess officially this is the

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Speaker 1: start of the National Football League off season, although the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys got a headstart on the National Football League off season,

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Speaker 1: and we are here to bring you up to speed

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Speaker 1: on all things Cowboys. Bill Jones, Everson Walls, Mickey Spagnola,

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Speaker 1: as we look back at what happened on Sunday evening

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Speaker 1: in Tampa, Florida, and look ahead what's going to happen

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Speaker 1: with your Dallas Cowboys as things start getting very busy

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Speaker 1: leading up to the start of free agency just over

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Speaker 1: a month from now. All right, Everson, since you were

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Speaker 1: the first to join us, you get the first word.

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Speaker 1: Just to pull back the curtain, Everson just joined us.

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Speaker 1: Until you get the first word, Everson, Well, I must

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Speaker 1: say I was very, very disappointed in the Super Bowl itself.

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Speaker 1: Proud for Tom Brady, but boy, talk about an anti

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Speaker 1: climactic moment. I was really ready for this, this young

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Speaker 1: versus old, you know, the old, the old lion, with

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Speaker 1: the young lion coming up trying to take his pride

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Speaker 1: from him. I thought, that's where this is gonna be,

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Speaker 1: you know, and you're defending Super Bowl champions in the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs extremely surprised at their lack of prowess.

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Speaker 1: They looked like they didn't know what they they were doing.

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Speaker 1: And when it's all said and done, just like Spadge

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Speaker 1: and I have been talking about, with the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman might be the most important unit on any field,

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Speaker 1: on any team, on any day in the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: tackles that we saw trying to play and protect the

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Speaker 1: edges for Casey was laughable at best, and it reminded

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Speaker 1: me so much of our practice players that we promoted

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Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. That game. There were certain times

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Speaker 1: when I saw it looked as if when Mahomes got

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Speaker 1: the when the ball was being snapped to him, it

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Speaker 1: was almost as if, Okay, when I get this ball,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn around and run the other way to

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Speaker 1: the goal line, and I'm gonna see if you guys

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Speaker 1: can catch me because every snap he was running for

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Speaker 1: his life during the most crucial parts of the game,

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Speaker 1: especially on third down. Todd Bows once again, you guys

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Speaker 1: realized just how important he is as well. For that

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay team. Tid Bows dialed up a blitz or

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Speaker 1: sometimes extra pressure on third downs, and they were so

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Speaker 1: bad on Kansasy's offensive line there were times when they

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Speaker 1: did not need an extra Russia. Four men on the

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Speaker 1: line was good enough. And we'll talk about this later.

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Speaker 1: But Jpp, a guy that we thought was done for

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Speaker 1: in after fourth of July when he blasted up his

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Speaker 1: fingers that this was gonna be done for him. This

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Speaker 1: guy came and showed up, and let's be real, he

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Speaker 1: was Todd Bowls. He was Todd Bows heart and soul

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Speaker 1: for that defense of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. All right, Mickey,

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Speaker 1: I bet you echoed some of the things Everson says. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think he must have read my column yesterday on

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cover Always dot Com. I don't. I don't read

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Speaker 1: your column, Spad. Sorry, I don't read your cos now

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you did. Doesn't read your con I

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Speaker 1: think I think he did because the headline was U

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Speaker 1: Cowboys feel Mahomes pain. What so, what's the what's the

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Speaker 1: what's the toughest position in the NFL to find players

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Speaker 1: at the offensive line? And you better not go to

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Speaker 1: tackle offensive tackle a bit more specifically, but the whole

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Speaker 1: offensive line. You cannot go out into the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and play four backups out of five positions, and then

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Speaker 1: one week before the game, you're gonna you had to

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Speaker 1: replace your starting left tackle right Pro Bowl tackle, by

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Speaker 1: the way, and you made you were so short on

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Speaker 1: depth you had to make three changes to fix one. Right.

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Speaker 1: They moved, They moved the right tackle, who was a

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Speaker 1: backup by the way, to left tackle. They moved the

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Speaker 1: was looking and going, I can't wait to play defense.

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Speaker 1: He was pressured Patrick Mahomes with a bad foot, by

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Speaker 1: the way, that's going to be surgically repaired. On Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: He was pressured on twenty nine of fifty two drops.

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Speaker 1: Twenty nine of fifty two, that's fifty some percent. And hey,

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Speaker 1: do you have a category for running for your life?

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Speaker 1: Well what about that? And running for your life? That

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Speaker 1: that was a category almost every snap and then his

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Speaker 1: here is the bottom line. On Monday morning when they

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Speaker 1: and the MVP of the Super Bowl, so Tom Brady. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They asked Tom Brady what he was saying to Pat

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Speaker 1: Mahomes after the game, and he basically paraphrased what he said,

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Speaker 1: but here was his quote. It's almost impossible to play

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Speaker 1: quarterback under durest like that, just the reality of football.

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Speaker 1: Pat was doing as much as he could to make

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Speaker 1: plays last night. He was running around, he was reversing field,

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Speaker 1: he was doubling back, tripling back. In the end, it's

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Speaker 1: tough to do that consistently when you feel God every

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Speaker 1: play for a six yard game, I got to fire

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Speaker 1: the ball in their thread, the needle between two guys.

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Speaker 1: That's tough to play like that. And to me, that

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Speaker 1: was the bottom line. And how well the Cowboys know

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Speaker 1: called the Cowboys and said, what's it gonna be like

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Speaker 1: to play with two backup offensive tackles and your third

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Speaker 1: then he gets hurt, and now you got to play

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Speaker 1: Tyler Biadish. Oh, by the way, he gets hurt, So

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Speaker 1: now you got to go back to the backup. And

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Speaker 1: He ends up with a concussion, he switches positions, and

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Speaker 1: everybody wonders why the Cowboys finish six and ten, and

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Speaker 1: there's various reasons, you look at what happened on that

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And by the way, I wore black today.

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Speaker 1: I thought we were wearing black for Black history. And

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Speaker 1: then you guys come in, No, I said, I said,

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Speaker 1: we were representing black. I have my black colleagues Hall

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Speaker 1: the styles bags. You look good, and I thought i'd

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Speaker 1: support the university that's now ranked tenth in the nation

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Speaker 1: a it's not a dual beneficial thing. By the way,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to propose this from you because last night,

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Speaker 1: saw a documentary on the Tulsa race massacre in nineteen

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Speaker 1: i'd never seen it to the point where they showed

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Speaker 1: video from back in the day when there were one thousand,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty six houses owned by black folks

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Speaker 1: a mass riot in the city of Tulsa. So I

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Speaker 1: did my homework on this black history stuff. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have a ceremony for you to get

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Speaker 1: We got you. Man. I'm gonna make sure we know this.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Black Twitter, okay, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: A Mickey? Is there a chance we could watch that?

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Speaker 1: Most likely? Probably they probably need programming right. And it

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Speaker 1: So he's hearing about these horrible incidents and about his

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's happened more than we know, and of

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Speaker 1: course fees will probably come out more in the future.

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Speaker 1: But that isn't an amazing, like I said, an amazing dynamic.

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Speaker 1: For no one to speak of it as bad as

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Speaker 1: it was. It was almost like the Capitol and the Insurrection,

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Speaker 1: then one hundred years from now we wouldn't even know

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Speaker 1: Sad stuff. Sad stuff, Mickey Uh and for you ever

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Speaker 1: since as well, the rush to the super Bowl? What

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Speaker 1: was your favorite part of the Super Bowl? Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to think about that. I just didn't

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Speaker 1: have a favorite part I was. I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought the Chiefs would do better. As I saw

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Speaker 1: back before they even started getting their feet on them,

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Speaker 1: their legs under them. I think the most h telling

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Speaker 1: part of the game was when Winfield Junior he put

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Speaker 1: the two fingers up in Tyriek Hill's face. That was

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Speaker 1: something that was extremely telling because that means he took

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Speaker 1: their heart. When he did that, He's taking he took

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Speaker 1: to to shove him in someone's face. But as much

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Speaker 1: this season, that little instant of payback retribution, it can

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Speaker 1: it was possible that everything would come off, and there

430
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Speaker 1: were hiccups along the way, bumps in the road, obviously

431
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Speaker 1: along the way, but to be able to play the

432
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl on time was pretty remarkable considering where we

433
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: were six months ago. Not to say we're out of

434
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: it by any means. Yeah, and you're absolutely right. And

435
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: you know, I had written last week on Dallas Cowboys

436
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: dot com about the accomplishment of the NFL having getting

437
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: ready to play a Super Bowl on time, that no

438
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: games were canceled. Now they one or two what postponed

439
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: along the way, and it wasn't perfect, But if you

440
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: looked at what took place over the course of the

441
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: season to get to that point where other leagues you know,

442
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: had to either go in a bubble or they had

443
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: to you know, cancel games once they started up again,

444
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: uh and postpone them. To the fact that they got

445
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: there on time, I thought not only was remarkable about

446
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: what the league did, but I think a tribute to

447
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: the players uh for keeping themselves uh basically for the

448
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: majority uh you know, quarantine and themselves, and for their families,

449
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: the families and the medical staffs too. By the way,

450
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: and and since I mentioned that, also should point out

451
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: that this year's ed Block NFL Athletic Training Staff UH

452
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: of the Year was the Dallas Cowboys. Uh So, kudos

453
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: to Jim Mauer and britt Brown Gaither and Hanson Yang

454
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: for the job they did with this team right with

455
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: the amount of injuries that they had to deal with,

456
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: dealing with the pandemic, and Jim was the guy that

457
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: was the lead of their COVID nineteen response team. For

458
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: them to get this team to the end of the season,

459
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: and I think they only had what two three guys

460
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: miss a game or having to go into quarantine. I

461
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: thought was quite remarkable that that took place. But yeah,

462
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: just to see this come off the way it did,

463
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: it was I thought, uh, quite quite an accomplishment. I

464
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Speaker 1: don't have to say, Guys, looking at this situation and

465
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: looking like where we are right now sports trying to

466
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: play sports in the pandemic, that ed Block award, that's

467
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: probably the most important ed Block award ever issued. We

468
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: have never had a situation like this, and the teams

469
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: that handled it better ended up being in the Super Bowl.

470
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Speaker 1: But you have to look at the other way, the

471
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: teams that were presented with unusual circumstances and for the

472
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Speaker 1: Cowboys to be able to come out of the head

473
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: on that and be recognized that's pretty good, Spags. I

474
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: mean you, I'm sure they take credit all the time.

475
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Speaker 1: Any ed Block Award recipients take credit, take they really

476
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Speaker 1: take a lot of pride in that. I would think

477
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: this particular time you would have to take even more

478
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: pride because of the situation that's going on. Should have

479
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: been part of the Saturday Night NFL Honors show they

480
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: gave out all the awards, along with introducing the new

481
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: guys elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, you know,

482
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: Man of the Year, MVP Offensive Defense, the whole thing, right,

483
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: this should have been in their because of just what

484
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: all right? And one other note on that. The other

485
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: thing that that's amazing about it from the from a

486
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: football standpoint in the NFL is just from a scheduling standpoint,

487
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: you don't have the same wiggle room that as far

488
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: as postponing games as what you do in other sports.

489
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, in basketball, you can you can play three

490
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: or four games in a week two months from now

491
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: if you need to postpone games. In the NFL, you

492
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: had bye weeks that you could play around with, but

493
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: other than that, there wasn't any wiggle room to get

494
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: the calendar done in advance. We saw it throughout college football.

495
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: So many teams had to not just postpone games, they

496
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: had to cancel games and play shortened seasons. And for

497
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: all teams to be able to play sixteen games and

498
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: then to have the playoffs come off without a hitch

499
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: is something else, all right, as far as the Hall

500
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: of Fame goes, that Saturday Night Show Drew Pearson discovers

501
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: as he was called to a meeting, a business meeting,

502
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: talking real estate with Jerry Jones and Roger Staboch and

503
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: then lo and behold who shows up David Baker? How

504
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: about that knocking at the door. So here here is

505
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: the greatest this might be the greatest upset in NFL history,

506
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: That this secret was kept for nearly two weeks, right,

507
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: two weeks because these guys knew, right, and not even

508
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: the people on the forty eight members and the Seniors

509
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: Committee member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame voting committee,

510
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: they didn't know what the results were, but they had

511
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: voted the middle of January, but they didn't know who

512
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: made it. Well, the NFL, the Pro Football Hall of

513
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: Fame knew, and they went to all these spots, right,

514
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: and they they basically told everybody who made it at

515
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: least a week or two before the announcement, and the

516
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: secret was kept. No one let the cat out of

517
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: the bag. And I'll tell you what. I talked to

518
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Speaker 1: Drew Pearson on Thursday and not knowing how the whole

519
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: thing was gonna work, and I said, Hey, I'm gonna

520
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: write this. I'm not going to ask you anything about

521
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, you know your thoughts. I said, I don't

522
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: want to jinx you. I said, are you going? Will

523
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: you be in Tampa? And he goes, yeah, I'm leaving

524
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow to go to Tampa. And I go, do you

525
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: know how they're gonna tell you? And he goes, no,

526
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: they haven't said how they're gonna let us know. It's

527
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: it's a zoom call or if they're knock on the door.

528
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: But I found out. I said, Oh, Drew played it

529
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: pretty well because he already knew and and good for him,

530
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: you know that was that was just side story. But God, long, long,

531
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: long overdue for a guy that played the level he

532
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: did the things that he did. Finished his career in

533
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, so eighty four on he had to

534
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: wait his five years and then thirty three years in

535
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: the making to get in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

536
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: It was a big mystery why it took so long.

537
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: But as he told me before he went, he goes,

538
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: you know what, he goes. As long as you get

539
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 1: in he goes, you won't think about the weight he goes.

540
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: This was this would be big to me, and he

541
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: said this would be big to my family, and I'm

542
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: sure it was on both cases. I think t might

543
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: be the only one that might disagree with you on Nett. Well,

544
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: you know what, And if you remember, one of your

545
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: teammates with the Giants, Harry Carson, was you know, kind

546
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: of butt hurt because it took him so long to

547
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: go in. But at least when it was time to

548
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: go in, he went in graciously. He didn't you know,

549
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: yes he did. It sounded like he might not show up,

550
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: but he did. I mean, it's a once in a

551
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: lifetime thing. You know, you can't hold that grudge because

552
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: you know now you're gonna be in and people will

553
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: be able. And this is what I've always said, guys

554
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: about the Pro Football Hall of Fame, any Hall of Fame,

555
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: it's their job to preserve the top stories in the

556
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: National Football League because They're gonna be a point where

557
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: none of us are going to be around to let

558
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: anybody know about the Hall Mary. There's none of us

559
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: gonna be around to know about some of the other

560
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: big plays. So stats are one thing, but the history

561
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: of the league and the stories need to be preserved,

562
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: and the job of the Pro Football Hall of Fame

563
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: to do that. So you know, fifty years from now,

564
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna walk in there and go, oh, so this

565
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: is how this Hall Mary started. Right, those are the

566
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: things that need to preserve. And I'm not trying to

567
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: blow smoke up ever since here, but there's stories that

568
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: of his career that need to be preserved, right, There's

569
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: stories of Darren Woodson's career that need to be preserved,

570
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: and and let's do let's get it going. Let's let's

571
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: get this thing done. So when I go into the

572
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame like I did, gosh more than probably

573
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, twenty four years ago, when I went

574
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: into the Olympic Hall of Fame in Switzerland, and I

575
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: got to go to a video board and punch Bob Hayes,

576
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: and up came his winning one hundred meter dash in

577
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: the Olympics. Right, Those are the things that need to

578
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: be preserved, not you know, not just because he won

579
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: a gold medal or two gold medals, but you got

580
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: to preserve that story. I had never I've heard of it,

581
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: I'd never seen it, and I've rarely seen a hundred

582
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: yard dash or one hundred meter dash where the guy

583
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: that won was not hanging on at the end. He

584
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: was continuing to pull away from the field. That's how

585
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: impressive Bob hayes hundred meter victory was. I told you

586
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: a long time, agost Bags. My first memory of football

587
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: professional football was Don Meredith to Bob Hayes, and they

588
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: tried it almost every week, more than once, because it

589
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: took Bob a little while to learn how to catch

590
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 1: the ball. He was so busy running. He wasn't really

591
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: that good of a receiver, and eventually he ended up

592
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: being a serious threat to where he when he talked

593
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: about stories, he actually changed the game. He was like

594
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: Kareem or will chamber him when they stopped him from

595
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: duncing the ball. You know, they had to change the rules,

596
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: and with Bob they had to start playing zone. Zone

597
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: didn't even it didn't even there was no zone word.

598
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: It wasn't used in that manner until Bob Hayes came

599
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: a yes, you're right about those story spects, you know,

600
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: and one that one that and I know we're getting off,

601
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: but one that he told me, and what the meredith

602
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: passed the It was the record long nineties some yards?

603
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Was it ninety? Whatever? It was. So I remember interviewing

604
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: him and I asked him, I said, so, how did

605
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: all that? I mean, what was the play? How did

606
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: all that work? He goes, well, we got in the

607
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: huddle and and and it was cold. I think it Cleveland, Pittsburgh,

608
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: something like that. The Cowboys were winning, and and and

609
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: he basically said, he said, I got in the huddle

610
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: and he said. Don looked at me and he goes, hey, Bobby,

611
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: it's cold. We've got this thing sewed up. He goes,

612
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: I need to get to the bench and have a cigarette.

613
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: He goes, so, why don't you just run down the

614
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: field as fast as you can and I'll throw it too.

615
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: That's how that play was designed. And they're real. That's

616
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: a real man. Let me let me those of the

617
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: bench that have a s I don't need to be

618
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: out here any longer. But those are the things. That's

619
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: that's part of the Hall of Fame. It's not all statistics.

620
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, I think in this day and age, in

621
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: our analytical day and age, we worry more about numbers

622
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: than we worry about the stories of the league. I

623
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: gotta disagree with you in regards to numbers, Spags. If

624
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: it was numbers, Ben Drew would have already been in

625
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: before len Swan. If there was numbers, then I'd already

626
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: been before Brian Dawkins. And if it was numbers, Cornell

627
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: Green would have been in before Lynch. So you know,

628
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 1: you look at these newly voted in guys, and as

629
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: we get older, the seniors are falling further and further behind.

630
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 1: I mean, when I had my opportunity a few years ago,

631
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: and that was my last modern day opportunity. After that,

632
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: I went into the senior So they say, what happens

633
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: next evers? I said, well, now I have to go

634
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: back and get in line behind all those guys, you know,

635
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: all the dead people, guys in wheelchairs, the guys who

636
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: you know older than me that still deserve recognition. Ken Riley,

637
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: Ken Riley, that's the story playing for the lowly Cincinnati Bengals.

638
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: His entire career. You're know how difficult it is to

639
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: play defensive back well on a team that sucks your

640
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: entire career. I don't know how he played, how long

641
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: he played. I think it was around fifteen years. The

642
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: guy ended up with sixty five interceptions of whatever. He

643
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Speaker 1: has never I don't think ever even been considered for

644
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. So to me, if it was numbers,

645
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Speaker 1: these guys would already be in. What it is now,

646
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: it's facts, It's all about exposure, it's all about noted riety.

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Speaker 1: It's all about Okay, how many TV shows are you on?

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Speaker 1: You know your buddies, you know with your particulars city,

649
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Speaker 1: or how good your Hall of Fame voter is, and

650
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Speaker 1: how much juice he has. So to me, your numbers

651
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: are not it. It has gone into a total other

652
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: realm when he comes to social media and exposure and

653
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: people on TV. There's no way Howey Long should be

654
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame before Harvey Martin. So if

655
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: there was about numbers, then we'd be talking about a

656
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: whole different thing. I think they need many more senior writers,

657
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: or at least writers, regardless of how old they are,

658
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Speaker 1: to have some type of empathy towards the guys that

659
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Speaker 1: played before me and some of the guys that played

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Speaker 1: after me, who are now pretty much forgotten about because

661
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: now we're into the now. Everything's into the now, everything's

662
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Speaker 1: into the new. No one wants to talk about when

663
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: we used to run the ball on first and second down,

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665
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: ends up with sixty plus interceptions, So that just lets

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Speaker 1: you know how good he was and what a ball

667
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Speaker 1: hawk he was. Guys himself, Cornell Green, people that really

668
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: need to be in there as Dallas Cowboys. They need

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Speaker 1: to have someone devoted to not just of course old cowboys,

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Speaker 1: all those players back in the day that we are

671
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,120
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672
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Speaker 1: guys because of my age, and they inspired me. So

673
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Speaker 1: when they're to the day I die, I'm going I'm

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Speaker 1: going down fighting for them as well as myself. You know,

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Speaker 1: you think it impacted John Lynch's chances to get in

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Speaker 1: this year that Tony Dungee got added to the selection committee.

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00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: How does he get in ahead of Darren Woodson If

678
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: you're talking safety, that's what I'm saying. Well, Tony Dungee

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Speaker 1: I borrowed these stats from Rick Goslin, who had been

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686
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Speaker 1: and this was back when they first started thinking about

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688
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: two NFL First Team All Decade selections in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: Twenty one of them have butts busts in Canton. The

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Speaker 1: the loan exception Drew Pearson. So how do you figure

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00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,359
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00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,840
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Speaker 1: Want to mention this before we go further. The NFL

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Speaker 1: is mourning the passing of Marty Schottenheimer today. Coach Schattenheimer

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Speaker 1: passed away at the age of seventy seven, and we

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Speaker 1: should point out that how what kind of impact that

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Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer had on Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy's career.

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Speaker 1: Of course, McCarthy got his first NFL job working for

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Speaker 1: the fellow Pittsburgh native, Marty Schottenheimer with the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: He he McCarthy came to the University of Pittsburgh where

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Speaker 1: he was an assistant coach, and was hired by the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Did quality control for him first and worked up the

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Speaker 1: ranks with Schottenheimer and the Chiefs throughout his time there,

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Speaker 1: which was through nineteen ninety eight, so I believe McCarthy

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Speaker 1: would have been with him for six years or so.

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00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: McCarthy spoke with Rick Goslin, of course, Goslin was in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City covering the Chiefs at the time. Was very

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Speaker 1: close to Schottenheimer. He tweeted about him a little while ago,

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Speaker 1: but he had this quote from McCarthy on Schottenheimer saying,

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Marty Schottenheimer, I wouldn't be saying

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Speaker 1: this because I wouldn't be where I am today. Marty

781
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: gave me my first NFL opportunity in nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: but it was so much more than that. He gave

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Speaker 1: this young coach a roadmap for life. Marty's fingerprints can

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00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: still be felt all over so many things I do

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00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: every day as a coach, but it is what he

786
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: taught me as a man that I'll be forever grateful for. Professionally,

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00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,959
Speaker 1: Marty was the first man I saw open his heart

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Speaker 1: and emotionally reveal himself. He was Pittsburgh Proud and the

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00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: definition of authenticity and genuineness. The six years I spent

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Speaker 1: with him were the most important and impactful years of

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Speaker 1: my coaching career. He was always teaching and emphasizing. Even

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Speaker 1: in my first game as a head coach in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and six, which happened to be against Marty, it

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00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: was ugly. After the game. When we shook hands, he

795
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: patted me on the back said, kid, trust me, it'll

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00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: get better, but don't ever forget. Make sure to do

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Speaker 1: it your own way. Almost fifteen years later, I still

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00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: lean on those words anyway. I think I think the

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Speaker 1: impact that Marty Schottenheimer had on Mike McCarthy was profound.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at coaches around the league and

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00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: players around the league ever since, you probably have stories

802
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: of coaches that are people that impacted you. And Schottenheimer

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00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: is that guy for Mike McCarthy. Yeah, I was. I

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00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: was never Uh we didn't play Cincinnati much when Schottenheimer

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00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: was there, but I do recall how that he was

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Speaker 1: part of that that chain of coaches that really brought

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Speaker 1: in that West Coast offense, and that's where it became

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00:51:51,239 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: a problem for me because the West Coast offense was had.

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00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: We never had the same rhythm playing against a West

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00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: Coast offense. It was something I had to adjust to

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Speaker 1: with forty nine ers and of course, uh with Bill

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00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: Walsh and I think Shottenhammer they have a connection as well. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the coaches that that really had an impact on me,

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Speaker 1: most of them are gone. Most of them are gone,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I think as you look at it, Jane

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00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: Stallings was the one that had the biggest impact. Not

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00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: necessarily so positive, but you know we ended up, you know,

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00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: really respecting each other, and uh, you know, first meeting

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00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: wasn't that great. But you know, coaches just have to

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00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: realize and I think they do as much as they're

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Speaker 1: family and things of that nature. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: there's a trust that has to be there between player

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00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: can change friendships. You know. To this Hey, Jene calls

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Speaker 1: me Edvy, not Everson. You know, that's his term of

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Speaker 1: endearment for me, because when he first met me he

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00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: called me boy. So that was an improvement. Heck, he

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Speaker 1: had it, all right, he had our attention. He had

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Speaker 1: it impact on me. The first time I tried to

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Speaker 1: And I said, oh, okay, he gives you that look.

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Speaker 1: He gives you that Bear Bryant look. You don't like

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Speaker 1: it's time to go. Somebody's hungry. That ever, ever from

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Speaker 1: your house. It's not from my house, all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe that you know what that was that was a

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00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: tribute to Marty Schottenheimer Brown's He had out to Brown's

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Speaker 1: head coach when the dog Pound got started. The dog

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00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: bound at Everson's house with a shout out to praise

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00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: for Marty Schadenheimer right there. All right, let's turn our

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00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: attention to what the Cowboys they're going to be doing

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00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: here as the we're a little over a month away

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Speaker 1: free agency. There's a there's some things that the Cowboys

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00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 1: are going to be doing preparing for the draft as well.

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00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: We've got don't have the combine, but it's going to

848
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: be very interesting how they scout players this year. And

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Speaker 1: we we're turning the calendar the page to officially now

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Speaker 1: Mickey to twenty twenty one. Yes, and first point of

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00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: business for the Cowboys will be to um to try

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Speaker 1: to get together with Dak Prescott and both parties knock

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00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 1: out a long term deal that are very delicate we

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Speaker 1: see for these quarterbacks right now. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: probably their first line of business. And by the way,

856
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: we found out over the weekend that Dak had a

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00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: clean up surgery on his ankle that he broke and fractured.

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Speaker 1: So from a physical standpoint, it sounds like that was

859
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: a good thing to take place. He needed it, so

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00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: that's got to get done. And then to me, the

861
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: second line of business is this is going to go

862
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: back where we started the show, is to figure out

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00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: the future health of their offensive tackles, because there's a

864
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Speaker 1: lot of offensive tackles available in this draft, and I

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00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: don't know that you need to use another first round

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00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: pick on an offensive lineman, but they've got to figure

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Speaker 1: out from a medical standpoint, well, Powans, how's the hip?

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00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: Is it ready to go? With Tyrn Smith having had

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00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: the surgery disurgery in his neck, U did it clear

870
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: up all those things that have been bothering him for

871
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: the last couple of years and is he ready to go?

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00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: Because if that's the case, then to me, you don't

873
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman with that first round pick. You

874
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: got other things that you need to take care of defensively.

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Speaker 1: But by the third round, to me, I think you've

876
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: just got a template right there of you better have

877
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: a credible backup offensive tackle to to be able to

878
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: step in and bail you out and not get in

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00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: the situation they've been at that situation at that position

880
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: for the last four or five years. Well, I am

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00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: a different I am under a different mindset, Spags. We

882
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: just talked about how important it was for your defense

883
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: to play well, and how Todd Bows was blessed with

884
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: some of the best active linebackers in the NFL. I

885
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: was a product of that. In regards to the New

886
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: York Giants, Pepper Johnson Lt. Gary Reasons, you know Steve Dice,

887
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: when Dic went up there and playing with the three two,

888
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he was just blew it up. I think

889
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: we need some very active linebackers, or at least somehow

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00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: take the ones you have and try and create a

891
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: space for them to be active and get them more

892
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: contact with the ball, because that is one of our

893
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: weakest points on our team. I think it's the most

894
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: the second most important union on our squad behind the

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00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: offensive line. And I said this the other day, and

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00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, Spats, please rebuke me if you

897
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: feel like it. There is a chance, and I'm afraid

898
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: there may be a chance that Dak Prescott will not

899
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: be here with the Dallas Cowboys if negotiations continue with

900
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: the same attitude, because it seems like that they are

901
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: still so far apart, and the injury itself. I think

902
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: that is an X factor that is going to determine

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00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: whether the Cowboys go into this negotiation with more vigor,

904
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: go into it kind of looking over their shoulder and

905
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: seeing what they got already. Please tell me I'm wrong. No,

906
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: I think he will be here. But here's the deal,

907
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: and and and when anybody talks about this is like, well,

908
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: why don't the Cowboys have him signed? You know he

909
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: deserves this, he deserves that. Okay, fine, But from his camp,

910
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: does he want to bet on himself again, knowing that

911
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: he had an injury that could have ended his career

912
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: and he turned his back on fifty five million dollars

913
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: in signing bonus and one hundred and ten guaranteed? Does

914
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: he want to play that game again. I'm not a

915
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: big gambler on financial stuff, right, but boy, if I

916
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: got that sitting in front of me and I just

917
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: had that surgery, I don't know if I want to

918
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: roll the dice again that, oh yeah, I'll just take

919
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: a one year deal and then I'll be a free

920
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: agent the next year. So I think there's two sides

921
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: to that, but it has to get settled because we

922
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: see the quarterback position is pretty important. But I agree

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Speaker 1: with you on the linebacker thing. I agree with you

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00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: on the linebacker thing. And I've only seen I think

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00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: only one like, not edge player, but a linebacker, linebacker

926
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Speaker 1: to being mocked to be drafted in the first round.

927
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Speaker 1: And it's the kid from You're gonna have to help

928
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: me here, Bill from Penn State. Part is a parson.

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Speaker 1: Uh he's He's the only linebacker I've seen mocked in

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01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: the first round. You know what, I'll help you next

931
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Speaker 1: week with that, because now that the Super Bowl is over,

932
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 1: it's time for me to dive into my big green

933
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: NFL draft scouting notebook. It's that time of year again,

934
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Speaker 1: Mickey Well and and I just think linebacker, you know,

935
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be the first round, but

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Speaker 1: maybe the second round round. It does not have to

937
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: be the first but you just have to hit because

938
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: that linebacker position needs to be you know, you need

939
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: three of them if you're gonna play a four to three.

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01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: And it sounds like Dan Quinn wants a play a

941
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: four to three, then you need three like it. You

942
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: like that. Anthony Hitchins for the Chiefs heck, Damian Wilson

943
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: started him and they were both fourth round draft picks. Yeah, there,

944
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: there you go. So you just need exactly and and

945
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I understand the cornerback thing. What scares

946
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: me on the cornerbacks that are talked highly of, they

947
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: didn't play this last year, right, you know that. I

948
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: worry about your ability to evaluate guys that did not

949
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: play this last year. And I understand the opt out.

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01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: I get it. I thoroughly get it. But to me,

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: when I'm evaluating those guys, I would be a little

952
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 1: bit hesitant to say, Okay, I've seen this guy play

953
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: two years now, he's good. You know, I'm good to go.

954
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: So you got to be careful there. So I just

955
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: think this is your right Bill. This this offseason is

956
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: going to be very very important for the Cowboys to

957
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: make good decisions. And ever since, you might be right

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01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: there too. I just saw a little t s on

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01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: the NFL network. They showed a picture a video of

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and the caption at the bottom of it

961
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: was on the move question mark. Oh Yeah, that's what

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01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: I love about the That's is what I love about

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: the offseason. Just throw something out there. We can talk

964
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: about right. Oh yeah, we're gonna stay it up. Bill.

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01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna stay it up the SPADs. Bill. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: stay it up that right, So we'll stir it up

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Speaker 1: next week. Will Dak Prescott be on the move? Will

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Speaker 1: he still be with the Dallas Cowboys by next Tuesday

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Speaker 1: when we reconvene here on mix shots. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. Oh Go Cowboys. This has been a production

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