1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to Movie Mike's movie podcast. I 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: am your host Movie Mike a very special episode for you. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: This week, I have on Chris Sanders, who is the 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: creator of Leland Stitch. He is also the voice of Stitch, 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: which if you've been listening to this podcast for any 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: amount of time, you know that lel and Stitch is 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: my favorite Disney movie. So it was like getting to 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: talk to a hero on this week's episode. I'll also 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: give you my spoiler free movie review of thor Love 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: and Thunder, my most anticipated movie of the summer. We 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: have so much to get to on this episode. Always 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: no more of your time. If you guys in the 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: movie crew are ready, let's just get started. Let's talk movies. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: In a world where everyone and their mother has a podcast, 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: one man stands to infiltrate the ears of listeners like 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: never before in a movie podcast. A man with so 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: much movie knowledge. He's basically like a walking AUDIMTV Who's 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: glasses from the Nashville Podcast Network Movie You may not 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: know his name, but you definitely know his work. My 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: guest this week is Chris Sanders, who is the creator 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: of Disney's Leelo and Stitch, he's also the voice of Stitch, 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: and long before he wrote and directed this movie in 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: two thousand and two, he also worked as a story 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: artist on Disney movies like The Rescuers, down Under, Beauty 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: and the Beast, Aladdin, The Lion King and really got 26 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 1: his start when he was the head of the story 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: on Mulan. Working on that movie led to him pitching 28 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: his idea that he's had since the eighties of Lelo 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: and Stitch. Lelo and Stitch was his first hit as 30 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: a writer and director, and even after Leelo and Stitch, 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: he went on to write and direct animated movies like 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: How to Train Your Dragon and The Crudes. So he's 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: a super talented guy. If you're a fan of Lelo 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: and Stitch or just a fan of Disney, I think 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna love his story. So let's talk movies with 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: Chris Sanders. I am on now with somebody I'm so 37 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: excited to talk to. I'm on with Chris Sanders. How 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: are you today? Good? How are you? I'm doing really 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: good now. A couple of things led me here to 40 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: having you on the podcast. Lilo and Stitch has been 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: my favorite Disney movie since I was a kid. And 42 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: earlier this year, I was scrolling through TikTok and I 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: see you there and I recognized you, and I didn't 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: realize the backstory of Lilo and Stitch and how it 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: came to be, so I knew once it hit that 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: twentieth anniversary, I had to reach out to you to 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: get you on the podcast. Cool. Yeah, it's been really 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: nice to do those TikTok's and um, that was just 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: a response to I don't remember what it was exactly, 50 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: but I ran across somebody who really didn't know anything 51 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: about where the movie came from, and that was that 52 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: wake up call to me realizing how much time had 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: gone by and quite a few people didn't know the 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: backstory to it. So it's been really fun to begin 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: that series dressing up someone the material, which a lot 56 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: of this stuff, just with animators and animation, a lot 57 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: of stuff ends up in people's garages. You know, there's 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in the archives. But I still 59 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: have the original drawings and the original manuscripts that I 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: used to pitch the project. So um, that's amongst the 61 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: stuff that I was digging up and beginning to put 62 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: up on on TikTok. So that people could take a 63 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: look at it, and that's so cool to see. And 64 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: I want to get to the movie, but I kind 65 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: of want to start back at the beginning. When you 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: were growing up in Colorado, what made you fall in 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: love with animation? I loved straw. My dad, I thought, 68 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: was a great artist. He did paintings and he would 69 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: draw like these buck Grudgers style spaceships. And I remember 70 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: one day he said, there's a limit to what you 71 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: can build, but you can draw anything. And that really 72 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: stuck with me, and um, and so I really I 73 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: always had a love to a love of drawing. It 74 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: didn't occur to me that I could turn that into 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: a career. And tell you know, many years later, I 76 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: was nearing the end of high school, trying to figure 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: out what to do with the rest of my life, 78 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and my grandmother was reading an article in the Denver Post, 79 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: which was our local newspaper, and she was reading this 80 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: article all about how Disney Studios was running low on animators. 81 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: They were retiring, and they were looking for a way 82 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: to replenish their ranks. They created an animation program at 83 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: this school in California called the cal Arts And I thought, oh, 84 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: my gosh, that's where I want to go. So I'd 85 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: always liked animation, I'd enjoyed it, but I've never thought 86 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: of it as a possible career path until she told 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: me about that school. And that's the only place I applied. 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: How did you know you were? It went from just 89 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: you just drawing to like, oh, I'm actually pretty good 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: at this, Like this is something I could actually pursue 91 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: and go to that school. You don't know, Um, I 92 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: was really crossing my fingers that my drawings were good enough. 93 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: I think a lot of kids at cal Arts were 94 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: like some of the local best artists from where they 95 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: came from, so I was not unusual in that. Like 96 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: I did cartoons for my school newspaper, so when they 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: needed cartoons, people would come to me at at our 98 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Vata High School and um, you know, when they needed 99 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: a mascot drawn or a T shirt drawn or something 100 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: like that. Likewise, a lot of the kids I ended 101 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: up within my classic cal Arts same kind of thing. 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: And that was really sobering because like, I went from 103 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: being I thought a person who could draw pretty well 104 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: to being so bird. When I'm sitting next to somebody 105 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: named Kelly Asbury, Kelly Asbury keep a good friend of mine, 106 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: and he just drew so much better than I did. 107 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: I thought he just drew amazingly well. And he drew 108 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: with a pen because he had this confidence, and I 109 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: always drew a pencil because I was never really sure. 110 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: I was like, I want to erase this and move 111 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: things around. And he took out this ink pen and 112 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: he would just draw what he wanted and I'm like, 113 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's so much better than I am, 114 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: right um, And you know it's still that way. I 115 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: think one of the things that's really cool about the 116 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: animation industry is that if you ever are looking for inspiration, 117 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: just walk down the hall. There's somebody down that hall 118 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna be way better at stuff than you are, 119 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: and so inspiration to bounced. I mean, in turn, that 120 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: makes you become better. You see other people just crushing 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: it and you're like, I want to get to that level. 122 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: I want to be that good too. I want to 123 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: creak out my best idea so I can get the 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: better jobs and get the things I want to achieve. Right, 125 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, because nobody, I mean there's no nobody draws 126 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: the back. Everybody draws you know their own things in 127 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: their own ways and stuff like that, and it's that great. 128 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: It's that great coming together of all those different artistic 129 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: styles where you can get these wonderful films and you 130 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: get these wonderful projects and stuff like that. If I 131 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: went back in time and and changed out one single 132 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: artist on one of these films, the film would be 133 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: a little bit different. So they are. They're literally a 134 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: conglomeration of the talents that were gathered for that particular project. 135 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: So you go out to this school and how long 136 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: is it until you get your first page job to 137 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: where Okay, this is turning into my career. A lot 138 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: of people would leave school at that time early. A 139 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: lot of people graduated on their third year. Um I didn't. 140 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: I stuck with it for four years. I was very 141 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: aware that this is my last chance to go to 142 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: school before I would go and start working for the 143 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: rest of my life. So I hung in there for 144 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: the four years. At the time that I graduated, Oddly enough, 145 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: Disney Studios was no longer hiring, so the place I 146 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: was really hoping to go was not an option at 147 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: that point. So I did find a job at Marvel Productions. 148 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Now that wasn't the comic book part of Marvel. It 149 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: was the animation side of it, and they did Saturday 150 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: Morning cartoons. I got a job on The Muppet Babies. Now, 151 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 1: the funny thing about that is that one of the 152 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: things that he would always tell us in cal Arts 153 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: is draw, draw, draw, draw every day, draw things that 154 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: you see around you. It'll make you a better artist. Well, 155 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to draw the things I saw around me. 156 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: I didn't want to draw shares, I didn't want to 157 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: draw tables. I didn't want to draw people's shoes, you know. 158 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to draw the stuff that I wanted to draw. 159 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: The funny thing is, at Marvel Productions on The Muppet 160 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Baby's Show, I was in the model department, which meant 161 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: anything that was going to be in the cartoon had 162 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: to be drawn first as a turn so that they 163 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: could color it and model it and send it overseas 164 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: so that everything would be on model. So the funny 165 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: thing is my first job was really drawing things that 166 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: I had avoided drawing in the past. I drew chairs 167 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: and tables and shoes and dresses and everyday objects, a 168 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: lot of them, right, And it was amazing training. So 169 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: you're working at Marvel, and I saw that you said 170 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: that you had the first drawing a stitch in n 171 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: What about that story? What about that sketch made you 172 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: come back to it years later when you finally get 173 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: this opportunity to create this story for Disney. I had 174 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: worked a little bit on it in private. I wanted 175 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: us to do a children's book. And what I realized 176 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: after working on it for a while in private, you know, 177 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: on my own time, was that the story was too 178 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: big to fit into a normally formatted children's book. I 179 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: didn't think I could boil this thing down to stay 180 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: seventeen pages or thirty two pages. It just seemed too big. 181 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: Um So, the idea was bigger than my book. Um So, 182 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: years later, I was in the waning days of the 183 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: production of Mulan. We made that film at the Florida Studio. 184 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: So I was out in Florida, and the president of 185 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: Feature Animation at that time, Tom Schumacher, was out visiting, 186 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: and um, he and I and everybody had gone through 187 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,119 Speaker 1: a lot making this film. It had been quite the adventure. 188 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: I think that my performance on that film had earned me, 189 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: had earned me a certain amount of I guess latitude 190 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: to maybe do my own movie. And Tom was out 191 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: visiting Florida and he said, is there anything that you 192 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: would want to do next? And pretty much right there 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: at dinner, I said, no, no, not well wait a minute, okay, 194 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: you know there is this one thing. There was this story, right, 195 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: and so I was able to think about it for 196 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. And the next time he visited, he said, well, 197 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: and I was trying to work up a pitch for it, 198 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, and and uh, and he said, well, go ahead, 199 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: just tell me about it. And I said, well, I'm 200 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: not really ready, and he goes, no, just come on, 201 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: just do it, you know, And I thought, here he 202 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: goes my idea. I mean, I'm like, it's it's gonna 203 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: be all over the next like in the next three minutes. 204 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: And I pitched it, just verbally threw it out there, 205 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: and I really got my very first and biggest note 206 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: of all, which was the story that I had concocted 207 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: was all about this strange little creature who was living 208 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: in a forest and he didn't he had come from. 209 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: He was a mystery to everything around him, but he 210 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: was also a bit of a mystery to himself. And 211 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: the story was all about how he was figuring out 212 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: who he was, and he was frightening looking a bit 213 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: of a monster, right, And Tom said, I like this story, 214 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: but I would have a suggestion. The animal world is 215 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: in a sense already alien to us, so placing this 216 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: alien being in the animal world doesn't get you the 217 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: kind of contrast that you might want. I would suggest 218 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: you placed this monster in the human world. Boom, there 219 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: it was. I thought that was a great idea. So 220 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: that was the first biggest note that Lelo and Stitch 221 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: ever got. Now this is before it was Lelo and Stitch, 222 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: before they were in Hawaii. That was when I left 223 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: and started working on the idea. Once I returned to California, 224 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: and that's where I got. I got this uh motel 225 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: room out in Palm Springs at this resort, and I 226 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: locked on myself in this room for three days and 227 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: all I did was draw and write because I wanted 228 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: to create a bit of a document because it was 229 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: going to be about an alien. And I thought, you 230 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: know what, those are the days where people were making 231 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: a lot of monstery kind of alien movies. And I thought, 232 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: if you say the word alien in a development meeting 233 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: or a pitch, A lot of people are going to 234 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: get this instant idea of what an alien is. And 235 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, if I don't draw this, they're gonna 236 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: get maybe the wrong idea. So if I draw this 237 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: whole thing out and they say no to it, at 238 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: least they're saying no to the idea that was my idea, 239 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: so it's a legitimate no. So um. So, after those 240 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: three days, what occurred to me was that in a sense, 241 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: I had finally created that children's book that I had 242 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: tried to create so many years before and had abandoned. 243 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: That's really interesting to me because I was rewatching it 244 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: and I realized how hard it must have been to 245 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: pitch an idea about this alien creature doesn't really say 246 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: a whole lot of words. So to hear you say 247 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: that you took that idea, placed it into Hawaii, and 248 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: suddenly it made sense. You know, this is where you've 249 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: really got to understand, like how important the producer and 250 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: ahead of a studio are to your future. They can 251 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,239 Speaker 1: make or break an idea. And in this case, Tom Schumacher, 252 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: he wanted to make this film and he that was 253 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: the next big thing was that it's a's the thing 254 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to put on a TikTok really soon, and 255 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm working on that one right now. He told me 256 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: after the development department looked at it, that they all 257 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: like universally liked the idea, and he said I watched 258 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: into his office, into his office, and he said, I 259 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: will make this film on one condition that it looked 260 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: like you drew it. And that was, you know, very 261 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: exciting and flattering. But at that point I didn't even 262 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: know what to do because I thought, well, what do 263 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: I even draw like? I just draw like everybody else. 264 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: A girl who was working at the studios to Nichols, 265 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: who was an amazing artist. She also came from cal Arts. 266 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: She did a two week analysis of my art style 267 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: and she created two documents called Surfing the Sanders Style, 268 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: and it explained how I drew well. Nobody was more 269 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: interested to read these than I was, and I was 270 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 1: absolutely fascinated. It turns out there were things that were 271 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: governing my style that existed that I didn't really even 272 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: realize that I was doing, but she saw them and 273 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: she had like dissected the whole thing. So that began, 274 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: and that's one of the reasons that Leelo and Stitch 275 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: is a highly unusual film. It is more unusual than 276 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: people really, I think may may realize, because it is 277 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: not only a very Miyazaki style story that is extremely 278 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: hard to mail down. You know, it's a smaller story, 279 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: and it's really kind of strange, based very very much 280 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: on quirky, unusual characters. Really, you know, these personalities are 281 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: the are the whole movie. But also that it's in 282 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: an individual artists style, and that's I don't think there's 283 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: anything that has happened really before or since, at least 284 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: with an artist inside the studio they've based films on, 285 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: say like Isaac Isaac u Ivan Girl. Sleeping Beauty is 286 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: based very much on Ivan Girl, for example. Um but 287 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: he was an outside creator. So it's one of the 288 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: reasons that that's such an unusual film. So when do 289 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: you sit down to create what is going to be 290 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: Lelo and Stitch, you have to create Lilo. When did 291 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: it get that title? When did they get that final art? 292 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: It was Lelo and Stitch by the time it was 293 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: in that first pitch book. So when I went away 294 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: to Palm Springs, by that point I had made the 295 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: decision to place the film in Hawaii. I had named 296 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the characters Leelo and Stitch, and I had no connections 297 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: to Hawaii at that point. So I pulled Leelo's name 298 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: off of a roadmap that I had from Hawaii. There's 299 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: a Lil Lane and I saw that. So this is 300 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: one of the strange things. I didn't know what that 301 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: word meant. It sounded like a name. It turns out 302 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: it's not a name, but it's the It's the word 303 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: for lost. So in a really strange way, I found 304 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the right word to make that her name. The same 305 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: with Nanni, I just again I looked around for names 306 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: on a roadmap. Later on in the making of the film, 307 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: we did engage as many people as we could from 308 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: Hawaii because we're toughing about it. We're trotting into a 309 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: culture that we are not part of, and if you're 310 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: going to do that, you really have to connect with 311 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: people that know what the deal is, that know what 312 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: they're doing for the music, for the culture, for the dialogue, 313 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: for your voices, as much as you can. So um 314 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: and so we did. We met a huge number of 315 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: people who came our guides to making the film be respectful. 316 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: Going into the start of making this movie. At what 317 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: point did you become the voice of Stitch? Were you 318 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: always going to be Stitch or was that a voice 319 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: that just existed in your head? Where did that come from? 320 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: It's sort of both. It was it was a voice. 321 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: I had used this up to that point to call 322 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: people on the telephone with and annoy them. UM. And 323 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: it was actually Dean, my co director. So along the 324 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: lines of your last question, one of the first things 325 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: you do is you find a co director that you trust, 326 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: and I had learned to trust Dean into partment, into 327 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: partner with Dean during the making of Mulan and Dean 328 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: was extremely smart and amazing, a natural and it came 329 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: to storytelling, he was a natural storyteller, a great writer, 330 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: a wonderful story artist. UM. And he has very good 331 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: structural knowledge and structural instincts. So so I partnered with 332 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: him immediately. Um. As soon as we decided to do 333 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: the project, I saw out and we we agreed to 334 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: co direct on the film. Dean's suggested that I be 335 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: the voice of Stitch. One of the main reasons was 336 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: that we wanted Originally we didn't want Stitch to even speak. 337 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: We were like, oh, it's gonna be like dumb, but 338 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: we'll do the whole film and he will just be 339 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: a character that works in pandomime. Later on, it became 340 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: obvious that he was going to have to speak, and 341 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: in fact, he would have some key lines during the film. Well, 342 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: at that point we thought, okay, we're gonna we're gonna 343 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: have to get a voice, but you don't want to 344 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: necessarily hire somebody like Robert Redford or Danny DeVito and 345 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: then worry about like, well, how is the studio going 346 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: to react when they realize this character only says like 347 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: fifteen things, and will they then start to push for like, well, 348 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: if you know, if we're gonna hire Robert Redford, we 349 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: want to you know, we want Robert Redford. We want 350 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: like a lot of lines. And we were afraid that 351 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: that might begin to really be the tail that wagged 352 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: the dog as far as the making of the film. 353 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: So Dean suggested, He's like, you know what, why didn't 354 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: you just do the voice? You used that voice when 355 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: you pitch your boards, So why don't you just do it? 356 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: And then we'll avoid any problem because you know, you're 357 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: not a real actor. Nobody's no one's gonna ask for 358 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: more of you, right. So we didn't do that at 359 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: and there came up a moment. There was only one 360 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: moment that I felt a little stressed about it, and 361 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: that was when we realized that near the very end 362 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: of the film, Stitch would have this one very important 363 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: line where he talks about this family that he found. 364 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: And it was little and it was broken, but it 365 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: was still good and that verged on real acting, and 366 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: so I thought, I don't know if I can do this. 367 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: On that day, I came to Dean and I said, today, 368 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm an actor, and you're going to be the director, 369 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: the only director, and I'm going to go in that booth, 370 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: and you tell me what to do and I'll do it. 371 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: And if I can't pull this off, then we'll find 372 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: somebody else to do the voice. And so we did. 373 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: Like Dean directed me, I did everything he asked, and 374 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: before long he said, okay, I think we got it. 375 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: And I said, are you sure? And he said, yeah, 376 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: I think we got it. And it worked. Okay, you 377 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: brought up my favorite scene in the entire movie. I 378 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: think it's because of that. It's that moment in the 379 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: movie where everything kind of hits me emotionally and I 380 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: remember watching it as a kid and having that same 381 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: kind of feeling of Stitch, of being that person who 382 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: was filled with ray age in a place that he 383 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: didn't understand, didn't understand himself, but all of a sudden 384 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: he had this family. Now, I think that's the most 385 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: perfect scene in any Disney movie I've seen. So it's 386 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: cool how that came together. And now you had to 387 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: go dig out your acting abilities in that. I did 388 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: my best. I really tried hard to that day. I 389 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: still remember that day. This is my family. I found 390 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: it on my own, this little and broken but still good. Yeah, 391 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: still good. So when people find out you're the voice 392 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: of Stitch, do they immediately ask you to do it? 393 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: I get asked to do it a lot. It was there. 394 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: I had some surgery on my neck at one point 395 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: period of time about a year I couldn't do it, 396 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: But then I got back to doing it, and I 397 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: still do it. I get called up about at least 398 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: once a month to come in and do I do 399 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: voices for toys and for like parades, things for cruise ships, 400 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: all Disney stuff. It's fun. I told myself if I 401 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: ever had you on the podcast, I would show you 402 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: my voice, and it's actually that scene that I do. 403 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: So I would like to let you hear this and 404 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 1: then judge my abilities afterwards and let me know how 405 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: I can make it better. All right, okay, all right, 406 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: So it's that scene, this Lis my family. I found 407 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: it all on my own. It's little I'm broken, but 408 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: still good. Yeah, still good. How's that? That's really good? 409 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: That's very nice. How do you get the laugh though, 410 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: because I've been trying this impression for a while, but 411 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: that laugh is and like it's hard to do. The 412 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: big laugh is painful. That that is one if you're 413 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: doing a recording special, you save that for the very end, 414 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: like okay, we'll save all the screaming and the laughs 415 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: for the end, and then well we'll do Then you 416 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: can just take it to the wall and if you 417 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: blow your voice to out, you're fine. The fact that 418 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: it being the twentieth anniversary of the movie, when you 419 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: go back, what moment sticks out to you as being 420 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: the most fun part of the entire process When the 421 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: part of the process that I've always loved is music. 422 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: Dean and I and Leoo and Stitch was a big 423 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: part of this have really I've always loved music, and 424 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: and I listened to music. I have never written a 425 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: scene in a movie without listening to music while I 426 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: worked on that scene. I have also boarded pieces of 427 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: movies to music, and there are still there are still 428 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: pieces of music that if you play them while you 429 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: watch a piece of a Disney movie, it lines up 430 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: pretty much exactly. Um, Like, if you go to the 431 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: soundtrack for a movie called The Mission, there's a there's 432 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: a track from that. I believe it. I believe the 433 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: track is The Mission. And um, if you listen to 434 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: that while you watch the scene where Moue Foster's ghost 435 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: speaks to Simba, it works really really well because that's 436 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: the that's the music I I listened to when I 437 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: boarded the scene, and I pitched that scene to the 438 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: directors with that music. There are scenes in Beauty and 439 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: the Beast. I can show you the music that those 440 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: were done too. So anyway, so same with Leoland Stitch. 441 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: I would listen to music because I write these scenes. 442 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: And nothing was more exciting to us than we would 443 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: when we would partner with somebody like Allen Silvestri, who 444 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: is going to be writing a score. And one of 445 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: the things that Leland. Stitch was made for a lower 446 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: budget than movies were being made for at the time. 447 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: We felt we could buy our story freedom by lowering 448 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: the budget, which is exactly what happened. But one of 449 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: the things that both you and I told the producer 450 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: is going to ask the studio carve off enough money 451 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: to buy the best score money can buy, and we 452 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: will make the film for whatever is left over. And 453 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: that's exactly what they did. So we got Allen Selvestry 454 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: and it was this really important day um where we 455 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: were looking at the boards and Allen selvester was looking 456 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: at the whole film on boards and looking at the outline, 457 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: and he said, I really like this movie, and he 458 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: had a few suggestions, but he said, there's one thing 459 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: I didn't see. I didn't see the moment where Stitch 460 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: turns from bad to good, because the Stitch is a 461 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: villain that becomes a hero, and that was what the baseis. 462 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: That was really the basis of the whole story. He's 463 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: the first and I think at this point still the 464 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: only Disney villain who then becomes the hero of the story. 465 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 1: And Allan was like, well, where does that happen? And 466 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: both Dean and I at that point we're like, oh, well, yeah, 467 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: we tried to write it, we couldn't really figure it out. 468 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: And it sort of happens here, kind of between these 469 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: two shots, and suddenly both died, and I think we're 470 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: confronted with the reality that we hadn't really been able 471 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: to put it up there on the boards. And I'll 472 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: never forget what Allen said. We basically told Alan we 473 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: didn't know how to do it, and he said, put 474 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: her on screen and I'll do it. And I guess 475 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: we were saying we couldn't, we didn't know how to 476 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: say it, and he said, put it on screen and 477 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: I'll say it, and he said it with music. And 478 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: so there's a moment where Nannie realizes that they can't 479 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: retrieve Lil and she's crying and Stitches watching her, and 480 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: if you listen, there's a subtle change in the music 481 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: and Stitch walks up to her and he speaks to her, 482 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: and that's the moment of change. And what we realized 483 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: at that point was that music does the heaviest lifting 484 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: of all when it comes to story, and music is unassailable. 485 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: No one's going to laugh at music. You can you 486 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: can throw an awkward line in or an awkward shot 487 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: and it gets an in vertent laugh and you've kind 488 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: of blown it. But nobody laughed in music and um, 489 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: so Alan just like taught us such an incredibly important 490 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: lesson that day and we really took that to heart. 491 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: So later on one DNA and I were working on 492 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: How to Train Your Dragon. One of the first things 493 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: we do now is we carve out a house for 494 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: music in different places in the film. So in How 495 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: to Train Your Dragon, in that scene where Hiccup is 496 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: going to um bond and and and and um, he's 497 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: going to cross this divide and form a connection to 498 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: this dragon, no dialogue, it's all music, and we just 499 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: the characters shut up. All the characters shut up, and 500 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: music takes over. And that's just something that Dina and 501 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: I really believe in now. And we learned that on 502 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: Lelan Stitch. So was the love for Elvis music always 503 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: a part of the story or did that come along 504 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: when you're trying to find the music. I was a 505 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: big Elvis fan, so I simply gave that. I imprinted 506 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: that on Lelo and it was really cool because we 507 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: actually had to engage with the Elvis state. Um we 508 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: had done three things that you were not allowed to 509 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: do without permission. We had shown an image of Elvis, 510 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: we had used his lyrics, and we had also used 511 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: his music, and you can't do any of those things 512 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: about permission. So um so there there, there came a 513 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: day when we had we had to approach the Elvis 514 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: estate and they sent what we call the Memphis Mafia 515 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: down to look at the movie. And all these people 516 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: from the Elvis Estate traveled to California and they came 517 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: into the theater one day and I'll never forget most 518 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: of them were wearing dark glasses. They were wearing sunglasses 519 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: even in the movie theater. As they watched the movie. 520 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: It was exactly as you think it would be. And 521 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: they watched the movie and they came out and they said, 522 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: we're stoked, we love this movie. We're going to approve 523 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: all the stuff you want to do. And one of 524 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: the cool things we actually got a party at the 525 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: Elvis Estate after the movie was done, and Dane and 526 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: I received a key to the city of the City 527 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: of Memphis, and we got a private tour of the 528 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: Elvis of the state, and we even got a trip 529 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: to one of their archive buildings where they have all 530 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: of Elvis's actual stuff. There are four archive buildings. They 531 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: are in tornado proof structures. Um. One of them is 532 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: on the property and that's the one that we were 533 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: able to go into. And um we were there in 534 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: all these amongst all these shelves that had all these 535 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: archival boxes, and we were like, so, what's in all 536 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: of these? And they're like, well, a lot of stuff, 537 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: and and we said what do we look at? And 538 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: they said, well, I don't know, just pick a box, 539 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: and so Dean Dean picked a box and they opened 540 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: it up and they said, oh, these are all the 541 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: things that were on Elvis' countertop in his bathroom when 542 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: he died. And we simply packed them all up. And 543 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: they had a bottle of his high karate aftershave that 544 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: that he had used, and they opened it up and 545 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: let us smell it. And so we saw, we saw 546 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: some of his jumpsuits, we saw a pair of boxing 547 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: gloves that Muhammad Ali had given him. It was amazing. Anyway, 548 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: they were amazing. They were so kind and so generous, 549 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: and it was just such a great thing that we 550 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: we partnered with them. Anyway, one of those great lucky things. 551 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: One of my other favorite parts of the movie is 552 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: how Lilo is like a five six year old girl 553 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: but sometimes has like these really dark, almost much older 554 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: thoughts than her. How is that writing in things of 555 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: like leave me alone here to die? Like, how do 556 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: you kind of approach that to make it kind of 557 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: believable that it's a kid saying this? You know? Um? 558 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: That was Dean's line in Dean's scene. Dean also did 559 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: the he invented the whole my friends need to be 560 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: punished and she's taking those spoons in the in the 561 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: pit pull jar. That was just Dean and my sensibility. 562 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: But one of the things we had we did was 563 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: we um. Our voice actor was a girl named Debate Chase, 564 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: and we and we Um we auditioned a lot of 565 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: young actors to try to find the right voice. It 566 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: was one of those you'll know what when you know it, 567 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: And when Dvague came in, she had this really very 568 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: interesting way of delivering her lines. She had a little 569 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: bit of this sort of dead pan kind of delivery, 570 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: and we were like, that's Lilo, that's her. And so 571 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that like you write it 572 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: and then you meet the voice, and hearing the voice 573 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: helps you write it, so it's this kind of a 574 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: snowball effect. But I must credit Demon for that really 575 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: great scene that was entirely his. He wrote it and 576 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: he even storyboarded it. So we've seen sequel Lelo Institch, 577 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: You've seen the TV series, but now with Disney Plus, 578 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: will there ever be any other installment of Lee Loo 579 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: and Stitch. I think there will be. I think that. 580 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a very very popular character. One of 581 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: the things that has been very amazing is that um 582 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: I always hoped to pitch and create a movie that 583 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: had a character that really endured. And one of the 584 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: things that I absolutely am delighted with is whenever I 585 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: go to Disney um properties. I can go to Disney World, 586 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: or I can go to Disneyland, and you walk into 587 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: stores and there are not just Stitch products. Sometimes there 588 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: are entire sections of the store that are literally devoted 589 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: just to him. And that is just mind blowing and 590 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: I am so so proud of that. And it's so 591 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 1: weird too, because I'm like, I drew him one day 592 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: in Palm Springs. I have the first drawing of him, 593 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: and now he's been reproduced millions of times, and he'll 594 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of times they'll be like a 595 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: product it'll have maheat Donald and Stitch and it's like, 596 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, like he's really like he's there right. 597 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, I've been writing little things because I thought, 598 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, he's part of the Disney universe now. And 599 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: just a really quick side note, the whole ad campaign 600 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: that we introduced the movie with was an ad campaign 601 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: that Dean and I thought up in other like movie posters. Yes, 602 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: because as the movie was coming close to release and 603 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: we were thinking about how we were going to market it, 604 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: we were sitting around one day talking about this whole 605 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: thing and I said, out loud, isn't it weird? This 606 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: little character that we started all by ourselves is going 607 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: is about to invade the Disney Universe. And from now on, 608 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: when they do a lineup of Disney characters, Stitch will 609 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: always have to be in there with them. And the 610 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: idea like and at the idea of like, oh, him 611 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: invading the Disney universe, we all wouldn't it be funny 612 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: if we did the whole opening the Lion King and 613 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: when they helped the little cup up, it wasn't the cup, 614 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: but it stitch and everybody just ran away and the 615 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: whole idea just made us laugh. So we boarded that 616 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: out um, and we went to this meeting with Dick Cook, 617 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: who who was on the main line and he was 618 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: in charge of these things and he was an executive there, 619 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: and we pitched it and it got a big laugh. 620 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: Dick Cook said, I like this, and then they said, 621 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: can we do more? And so we started kicking around 622 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: ideas of having him show up in The Little Mermaid 623 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: and Aladdin and Beauty and the Beast and um, which 624 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: means we had to go back and re record those 625 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: actors with new lines. And that was really funny because 626 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: none of them were super stoked about it like they 627 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: I think it was the idea of it wasn't like 628 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: we didn't want to do it. They were very professional 629 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: and they were very, very generous, and he did a 630 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: great job. I think it was more the idea of, like, 631 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: what's this thing doing in my movie? And the funniest 632 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: one was when we recorded Bell. She was on speaker 633 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: phone and she was in New York, so we were 634 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: recording her remotely, and the funny thing was because she 635 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: was just on speaker phone, it was impossible not to 636 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: imagine that the actual Bell was it the other end 637 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: of the line talking to you, because you couldn't see her. 638 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: So in my mind, it's Bell, it's the cartoon character. 639 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: And I remember we staid, okay, this is what's this 640 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: is the idea which is gonna show up and he's 641 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: going to ruin your special dance with beasts and then 642 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna say I'll be in my room and you're 643 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: and you're upset. And then there was a there was 644 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: a beat and she said, so I'm mad at him, 645 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: and he said, well, you're disappointed, right, and she'd go okay, 646 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: and so she would do the line and she said 647 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: I'll be in my room and she had this really 648 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: sort of upbeat delivery, and we said, well, I think 649 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: you're more disappointed than that, right. So we eventually got 650 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: to the place where she felt very, very upset, you know, 651 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: but it was just so sweet and so cute because 652 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: she was like, wait, a mad and it was just 653 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: it was so it was great and they were and 654 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: what again, it was so cool because I got to 655 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: meet those actors. I never thought i'd meet them, but 656 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: that was so cool. I mean, you created an iconic character, 657 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: got to work with people who are also iconic characters. 658 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: It's amazing to see that all come together. And I 659 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: can't wait to see you what comes next, and hopefully 660 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: I'll get to talk to you again once that comes around. 661 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: I really appreciate the time absolutely. If you ever wanted 662 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: to a follow up, I'm so sorry we were late 663 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: on this because but yeah, let's do that. That would 664 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: be fantastic. I really enjoyed chatting with you so much. 665 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: Let's thanks Chris. Have a good day, you two. I'll 666 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Let's get into it now. A 667 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: spoiler free review of Thor, Love and Thunder, my most 668 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: anticipated movie of the summer, didn't live up to my 669 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: expectations because you have Chris Hemsworth back in store, Taco 670 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: Y t t back directing this one who directed Thor Ragnarok, 671 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: and most importantly, you have Natalie Portman reprising her role 672 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: as Dr. Jane Foster. But not only that, she becomes 673 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: the mighty Thor in this movie. Not a spoiler, that's 674 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: all in the trailer. So before we get into what 675 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: I thought about this movie, here just a little bit 676 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 1: of that. Now. He was no ordinary man. He was 677 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: a God. After stating planet Earth for the five hundredth time, 678 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: Thaws it off on a new gene. Well, he got 679 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: in shape. He went from dead bard god, and after 680 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: all that, he reclaimed his touches as the one and 681 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: only four Oh spook too soon, Jane, and I have 682 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: to say, even though I knew it was coming, even 683 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: though I saw it in the trailer, at the moment 684 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: that Natalie Portman became Mighty Thor felt awesome to me. 685 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: I'll get into why I loved that part of the 686 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: movie and why I didn't like that part of the 687 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: movie all at the same time. But where this movie 688 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: takes place, it's Thore who is struggling to find inner peace. 689 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: He's trying to find himself. He doesn't want to be 690 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: Thor anymore. He's basically sad Thor, and he has transformed 691 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: since the last time we saw him, as Dad bought Thor. 692 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: And he's with his old friends, the Guardians of the Galaxy. 693 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: So you have Thour here struggling to find himself. But 694 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: above all, the evil that is approaching is a new 695 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: villain called Gore, the god Butcher, played by Christian Bale. 696 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: He is this galactic killer who is trying to kill 697 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: every single god around. It is Thor's mission now to 698 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: take down Gore, the god butcher, and he enlist the 699 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: help of King Valkyrie, his friend Cork, who is also 700 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: voiced by the director Taiko Watiti, and then of course 701 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend Jane Foster. Now, some people ask me, 702 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: do you have to watch all the other Thor movies 703 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: to understand this one? I don't think so. I think 704 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: this movie in particular does a really good job at 705 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: explaining the details you need to know about the relationship 706 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: between Jane and Thor. Obviously, with any Marvel movie, you 707 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: feel more invested if you've seen every other Marvel movie, 708 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: if you have all all the time to watch the 709 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: other three Thor movies, which I do enjoy. And I 710 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: say that because I believe that Thor actually has the 711 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: best solo movies, second only to Spider Man collectively. Now, 712 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: this being the fourth Thor movie, I think they have 713 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: the comedy. I think they have the action and even 714 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: coming full circle now on the love story. So I 715 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: find them the most entertaining now and the ones that 716 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: I feel I can continue on and on, especially after 717 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: this movie, and I had a lot of high expectations 718 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: going into this movie because of that, because he is 719 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: one of my favorite Marvel characters, and because I really 720 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 1: love Thor Ragnarok so much. I felt like Chris Hemsworth 721 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: really got the character down. The story was so perfect 722 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: in that movie, and visually that movie looks so amazing 723 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: and kind of created this own new identity for Thor 724 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: that I feel like that carried on through the rest 725 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: of the Avengers movies and now coming back to his 726 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: solo movies. That's why I was so excited for this one, 727 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: and this one really meant those expectations. I don't think 728 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: it exceeded them in any way, but it met them. 729 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: And much like Thor Ragnarok, this one was just as 730 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: visually appealing, and it kind of took a different approach 731 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: on the style. Where Ragnarok had this kind of cosmic 732 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: color palette, which was very defining to that, I felt 733 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: like this one was a little bit more comic book style, 734 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: especially when it came to the costume and a lot 735 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: of the wardrobe. I felt like Thor kind of went 736 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: back to that more classic Thor look that you get 737 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: in the first movie, and also just more representative of 738 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: what the comic books look like, and then you have 739 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: paired with that. What Thor movies do that no other 740 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: real Marvel movie can pull off is the comedy. This 741 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: movie is effortlessly funny to wear. Thor is actually a 742 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: funny character. That's unlike all the other Marvel Humor, which 743 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: for the most part is characters who aren't funny, that 744 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: say the occasional witty thing, the occasional like out of 745 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: place line that makes it funny. That's kind of what 746 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: Marvel humor has always been. When it comes to like 747 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: Captain America and Iron Man, they just say things that 748 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect them to say, and everybody lasts and 749 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: it's funny. This movie was, at the root of it 750 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,240 Speaker 1: a romantic comedy, and I think that's why some people 751 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 1: don't like it. If you go into it expecting just 752 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: your average Marvel movie, the kind of formulaic thing that 753 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: they've been doing with all their superhero movies for a 754 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: while now, which has worked and which I've loved for 755 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: a very long time, but I'm kind of itching for 756 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: something a little bit different. This movie didn't stick to 757 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: that same type of formula, and what it really showed 758 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: me is that Marvel can kind of exist by making 759 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: movies in different genres and in different styles. I saw 760 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 1: that with Doctor Strange until the Multiverse of Madness, which 761 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: I didn't really love. I felt like that was Marvel's 762 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: attempt to make a Marvel horror movie. This one. At 763 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: the root of it, it really is a romantic comedy, 764 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: and then and you layer that with the superhero aspect, 765 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: and then you layer that with action, it becomes a 766 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: Marvel movie. So you just start checking off all the boxes. Here. 767 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: You have the action, you have the acting, you have 768 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: the characters, you have the costume, you have the humor. 769 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: All those things are exactly what I was looking for, 770 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: and then you wrap them up into the new thor aesthetic, 771 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: which I'm totally in love with and met all my expectations. Now, 772 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: the part of the movie that I didn't like is 773 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: it felt a little bit rushed within the first twenty 774 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: or thirty minutes, and this movie is under two hours, 775 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: which I don't find myself saying this a lot, but 776 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: I wish this movie was longer. I just felt the 777 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: movie was trying to find its footing early on and 778 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: kind of going between Gore the god Butcher's backstory into 779 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: where Thor is now into where Jane is. It was 780 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: kind of just like, Okay, what am I focusing on here? 781 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: And then the moment she becomes Mighty Thor, it goes 782 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: from just her being Dr Jane Foster. Now she's Mighty 783 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: Thor and everybody's just kind of cool with it. I 784 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: wanted to see a little bit more there of her 785 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: figuring out her powers, being a little bit more questioning 786 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 1: of what is going on. She just kind of turns 787 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: into Mighty Sore and everybody accepts it. The rest of 788 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: the movie kind of moves on, which does create a 789 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: pretty fast pace throughout the entire thing. So I felt 790 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: at the root of it it did help with everybody's 791 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: attention span of once you get kind of comfortable and 792 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: one thing, it's onto the next, onto the next. So 793 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: it had that kind of feeling to it. So while 794 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: some people are probably praising that a Marvel movie is 795 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: under two hours, this one I wouldn't have minded if 796 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: it would have gave like maybe twenty minutes more there 797 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: in that first act. And then when it comes to 798 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 1: the villain in this movie, Christian Bale. Great for him. 799 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: I love that they gave him a backstory and while 800 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: he is no Fano so by any means, he was 801 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: a pretty good threat, which Marvel tends to have a 802 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: lot of forgettable villains. I felt like this is one 803 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: that ten years down the road, I'm going to remember 804 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: Christian Bale as Gore, the god Butcher. And the only 805 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: thing I didn't love was I felt like they should 806 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: have given him more action sequences. I felt like his 807 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: character really shine whenever he was the most menacing, whenever 808 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: he felt like he was a very unstoppable force, like 809 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: something to really be reckoned with. But I never had 810 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: that moment in the movie that I felt like the 811 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: villain was completely in control. So basically my biggest criticisms 812 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: of the movie is that I wanted more. But I 813 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: guess as a Marvel fan, you want to leave us 814 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: wanting more, because I would go watch Thor five tomorrow 815 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 1: if it came out. I think Marvel fans will be 816 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: happy with this one, especially if you're a big thor fan, 817 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: which it's unusual to see movies get better with each installment, 818 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: especially when you're making a fourth one. Usually by the 819 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: third one you're like, all right, I'm ready to cut 820 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: the chord here, I'm all in for another Thor movie. 821 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: I think they have come a really far away since 822 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: the original Thor, which I did rewatch going into this movie, 823 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: which I still enjoy that movie. The only thing I 824 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: don't like looking back on it is how weird they 825 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: make Chris Hemsworth look in that movie, like he has 826 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: makeup and the hair and the wig just isn't completely there. 827 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: Now Thor's look is completely perfect, and I think Chris 828 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: Hemsworth should get a award for how ripped he got 829 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: for this movie. He said it's the most cut he's 830 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: ever been for any role, and it really shows. And 831 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: somebody like his counterpart in this movie, Christian Bale, who 832 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: is been praised for losing a crazy amount of weight 833 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: for roles, he's also put on a lot of weight 834 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: for roles and I feel like it only matters what 835 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: kind of movie you do to get praise for that, 836 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: because he did those both in dramas. But then you 837 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: have Chris Hemsworth getting like obliterated. So he actually looks 838 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 1: like a god in this movie, but that kind of 839 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: gets glossed over because it's a Marvel movie. Watched this 840 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 1: movie and see just how shredded he looks. The entire 841 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: time and try not to be impressed by it. I 842 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: think when it comes to ranking this among other Marvel movies, 843 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: it's getting really hard to compare. I'll be honest, we're 844 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: almost at thirty of these movies now, so I don't 845 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: think at this point it's fair to compare all of 846 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 1: these almost thirty movies. I try to just compare them 847 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 1: in phases, and in this last phase four easily top three. 848 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: In phase four for me, it's just always hard to 849 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: beat Spider Man, but this one comes pretty close and delivering. 850 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: Do you need to go watch this movie in theaters. 851 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: It's hard for me not to watch a Marvel movie 852 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: in theaters. I think that's where they really shine. I 853 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: still feel like they're sporting events. However, in my theater, 854 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: and myself included, I don't think there were particularly hype moments, 855 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of what I was saying earlier about I wish 856 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: there was a little bit more adversity from the villain 857 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: and that struggle. I don't think there were a whole 858 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,439 Speaker 1: lot of cheer moments in this movie, and I think 859 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: that makes it more of a reason to go watch 860 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: this in theaters, which that's kind of what I was 861 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,439 Speaker 1: surprised by I wanted to have that big epic roar, 862 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,959 Speaker 1: people clapping. There wasn't a whole lot of that. Maybe 863 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: it was just my theater's vibe. Maybe it was because 864 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: the dude next to me took his shoes off and 865 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: was barefoot next to me. Maybe that took a little 866 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: bit away from that. But that's why you go to 867 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: the movies. I still think it as an event. However, 868 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: I don't think the crowd was as electric as it 869 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: was for a movie like Spider Man No Way Home. 870 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 1: So if you weren't as excited about this movie is 871 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: maybe some of the other Marvel movies. You may wait 872 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: till it goes to Disney Plus. But if you do go, 873 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 1: do stay because there are two very important post credit scenes. 874 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 1: And finally, if I had to rate thor Love and Thunder, 875 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: I would give it four point five out of five 876 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 1: storm Breakers. I honestly thought this movie had the potential 877 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: to be my five out of five movie for the year. 878 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: Didn't quite get there. If it would have had a 879 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: bigger Harrah moment, probably could have made it to a 880 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: five out of five. But without a doubt, it is 881 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: crushing it at the box office right now made sixty 882 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: nine point nine million dollars and it's opening day alone 883 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: even more the night before that probably be the third 884 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: highest grossing movie of the year with a very good reason. 885 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,319 Speaker 1: It's been a really great summer so far, or you know, 886 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: really only kicking off July, so I've been seeing so 887 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: many movies I can't even get them into all my 888 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: movie reviews. So that is it for this week's. Next week, 889 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: I'll finally get to my Elvis movie review, which I 890 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: haven't done yet, so have all that to look forward to. 891 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: What a summer blockbuster season, and that is going to 892 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: do it for another episode here on the podcast. I 893 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: feel like this episode has gone longer than expected with 894 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 1: the interview and I couldn't shut up about four Love 895 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: and Thunder. So I'm gonna punt the trailer park for 896 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: this week because a trailer drop that I'll probably spend 897 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: another ten minutes on. I'll just say that for next week. 898 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: But I can't skip the listeners shout out of the 899 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: week because I do it every single episode. So you 900 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: can tweet me at Mike d stro I love including 901 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,799 Speaker 1: anytime somebody tweets a photo of you listening to the 902 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: podcast or in this case something movie related and I 903 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: gotta tweet. Recently after I did the Pixar Characters that 904 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: Deserve Solo films from Kyle Skew, and Kyle tweeted a 905 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: picture of him maybe a girlfriend or wife and they 906 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: were dressed up as the characters from UP, and Kyle wrote, 907 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: not want to jump on social media, but enjoy the podcast, 908 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: and I thought I would share a feeding photo from 909 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: the past weekend as we dressed up as the characters 910 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: from UP for a Disney themed party. Keep up the 911 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: great work hashtag movie Mix Movie podcast. First of all, Kyle, 912 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: I am envious that you have friends that to begin with, 913 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: I'm envious that you have friends, but also that you 914 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,760 Speaker 1: have friends that throw Disney themed parties like that sounds 915 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,239 Speaker 1: really fun to me. I would go to one of 916 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: those in a heartbeat. And your costumes look dope. The 917 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 1: only time I've ever dressed up as a Pixar character 918 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: was my very first Halloween. I was able to somehow 919 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: convince my parents to spend money on a woody costume, 920 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: and that's the only time in my life they've ever 921 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: spent money on a costume from Walmart, and sadly, I 922 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: outgrew that costume pretty quickly, so maybe someday I'll get 923 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: invited to one of these and reprise my role as Woody. 924 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: And second of all, really appreciate you listening to the 925 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: podcast and jumping on Twitter, which you say you normally 926 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: don't do, just to send me that. It's like going 927 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 1: an extra level there. So I appreciate that. Kyle. Hope 928 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: you had fun at the party and hope you keep 929 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: listening to the podcast. As to the rest of the 930 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 1: movie crew, I appreciate all the love and support, especially 931 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: when you comment on things that really helps me out. 932 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 1: And what I like to do is I like to 933 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: post videos for my interviews and create a secret emoji 934 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: that you can go and comment, because sometimes I know 935 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: it's just weird that you don't know what to say 936 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,040 Speaker 1: to somebody even though you like the video and you 937 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: want to show your support, you can just drop a like. 938 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: But the secret emoji for this interview would I'll be 939 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: dropping a video of me talking to Chris Sanders, and 940 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: since Stitch is an alien, if you want to go 941 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: comment on the video on Twitter, Instagram, TikTok dropped the 942 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: alien emoji that is the secret emoji for this episode, 943 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: and I'll talk to you again next week here on 944 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 1: the podcast, and until then, go out and watch good movies. 945 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: Later