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Speaker 3: to all of it. But I gotta tell you, after

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Speaker 3: another rousing edition of the NBA Playing Round concluded and

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Speaker 3: is now in the books of all the teams that

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Speaker 3: will be watching the NBA Playoffs at home from their

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Speaker 3: Barki lounger, the Warriors, I guarantee you today, tonight, tomorrow, yesterday,

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Speaker 3: and pretty much through the summer will be the most

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Speaker 3: ride Sacramento like a stick horse tonight on the heels

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Speaker 3: of observing the Kings dispatched Golden State and observe their

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Speaker 3: fan base to flate like a Tijuana breastand plant, it

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Speaker 3: raises a question forget about whether or not the dynasty's over.

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Speaker 2: You're kidding me? What dynasty? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I get it, they won three and seven years or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It was good night, Irene. Forget throughout the scrap book.

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Speaker 3: Who's going to get the blame here? I know people

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Speaker 3: are going to say, well, do you know the moment

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Speaker 2: Where were you? Well, Golden State.

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Speaker 3: Got beat one eighteen ninety four. They were blown out

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Speaker 3: not feel good. Even if you don't even care about

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Speaker 3: the Golden State Warriors, They've provided plenty of thrills in

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Speaker 3: the last eight nine years and it was a tremendous

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Speaker 3: jarring moment. And it was a bit of a catharsis

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Speaker 3: for Sacao because they lost to Golden State last year

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Speaker 3: in the first round in seven games. But it has

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Speaker 3: for the trumprit Steph Curry, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson. Here's

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Speaker 3: they played their last game together as a trio? Okay,

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Speaker 3: I get it. Steph Curry is still He's maybe not

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Speaker 3: That dude isn't going anywhere, Okay, I think you will

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Speaker 3: certainly see him.

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Speaker 2: Back with the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, his contract's not up until

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Speaker 3: Then there's the venerable, irrepressible Draymond who's now thirty four

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Speaker 3: years old, also under contract for the next three seasons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I still think is a way above

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Speaker 3: But that's just me. So I think his role diminishes,

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Speaker 3: but it'll likely be there. So you got Steph Curry

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Speaker 3: and you got Draymond Green, Well that leaves Klay Thompson.

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Speaker 3: Might Clay Thompson be the odd man out?

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Speaker 3: I know that sounds like heresy to some people, but

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Speaker 3: your heart, you end up with heart disease. So if

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Speaker 3: you keep Klay Thompson, is it based on sentimentality or

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Speaker 3: not nothing. He's won half of the legendary Splash Brothers,

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Speaker 3: it's out of the realm of possibility that he's gone.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have to take a massive haircut to bring

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Speaker 2: Different uniform season.

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Speaker 3: However, it's not a foregone conclusion because Steve Kerr wants

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Speaker 3: you know, I'm not saying we're giving them a proper

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Speaker 3: grave and anund on a banan appeal. You're delusion If

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Speaker 3: you don't think they are, come on, but for a

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Speaker 3: five to six year span, you got to give him credit.

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Speaker 3: Their place in history secure. They somewhat redefined the NBA.

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Speaker 3: They change their styles, they changed the styles everyone played,

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Speaker 3: but it's still weird to see them exit so quickly

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Speaker 3: in such an unceremonious fashion. Like I said after watching

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Speaker 3: like a stickhorse tonight without Zion Williamson. I know you

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Speaker 3: can't necessarily equate transitive property in the NBA or any sports.

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Speaker 3: So if abat B B BEATC to CBAT eight, you know,

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Speaker 3: whatever the case, you know where I'm going with that.

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Speaker 3: But to observe what happened tonight, you can't help but

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Speaker 3: have it effect your overall perception of what the Warriors

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Speaker 3: are at the stage of the game. And they are

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Speaker 3: now at their legacy stage. They're not going to win

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Speaker 3: another championship with this group. They're just not going to.

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Speaker 3: Of course, it doesn't help in addition to all of

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Speaker 3: the wonderful news I've been sharing about the Warriors, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't help that the quote unquote possible dynasty ending lost

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Speaker 3: came at the hands of one of their former assistants,

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Speaker 3: He's the head coach of the Kings, who, by the way,

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Speaker 3: as well. But no one's going to be talking about

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Speaker 3: by the way, Mike Brown helped those Warriors win three

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, the Warriors lost.

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Speaker 3: To Mike Brown, who was one of their former coaches. Okay,

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Speaker 3: enough about the Warriors. You're going to be hearing enough

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Speaker 3: won't go away, and we'll see who they bring back

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Speaker 3: you know quietly the Lakers have it. I think a

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Speaker 3: better season than people give them credit for. There are

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Speaker 3: number three in offensive efficiency since the All Star Break.

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Speaker 3: Believe it or not, Anthony Davis played what seventy five

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Speaker 3: Three tip of the cap and the Lakers they got

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Speaker 3: thought was a very entertaining NBA game. So Ion managed

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Speaker 3: It's just uncanny. Well, it's quite possible that the Lakers

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Speaker 3: have figured out how to play late.

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Speaker 2: In the season.

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Speaker 3: Though their prize for gutting out the play and win

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Speaker 3: is they get their rematch against the defending champion Nuggets

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Speaker 3: starting Saturday. Lakers are a seven point underdog. Oh I know,

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Speaker 3: by the way, the Lakers are going to remind you

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Speaker 3: with raw efficiency, how that sweep against Denver was really close,

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Speaker 3: the operation was a rousing success. I know the patient died,

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Sure, And I think led Zeppein will re record the

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Speaker 3: Having said that, it still could be a competitive series,

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Speaker 3: and I think the Lakers do deserve some credit. But

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Speaker 3: enough about the Lakers, enough about the Kings. You watch

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Speaker 3: people will just simply not stop talking about the Warriors.

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Speaker 9: I don't think it's a matter of NFL evaluators on

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Speaker 2: That's well said, and I know why.

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Speaker 3: There's also a thought that because this is a pretty

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Speaker 2: Joy your weekend, Jason.

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Speaker 5: He was well.

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Speaker 2: Hearn to take care that is.

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Speaker 2: And make no mistake.

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Speaker 3: I know this sounds cynical, but the NBA's banishment of

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Speaker 3: John tay Porter is about money at optics and image,

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Speaker 3: not morality.

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Speaker 2: How do we get to this point?

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Speaker 3: I'll explain coming up, but first let's go to our guy,

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Speaker 3: Kevin Figers with the latest.

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Speaker 2: All right, Bernie.

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Speaker 11: The NBA playoff field is set after the final playoff

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Speaker 11: games or play in games, I should say, are in

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Speaker 11: the books. From Friday night, the Pelicans did not have

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Speaker 11: Zion Williamson, but they defeated the Kings one oh five

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Speaker 11: to ninety eight, clinching the eighth seed in the Western Conference.

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Speaker 11: In a first round matchup against Oklahoma City, Brandon Ingram

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Speaker 11: led the Pedals with twenty four points.

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Speaker 1: In the Eastern Conference that he used a nineteen to

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Speaker 1: nothing run in.

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Speaker 11: The first quarter to pull away from Chicago and what

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Speaker 11: would ultimately be a one to twelve to ninety one

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Speaker 11: final Tyler Hero just missing a triple double. He led

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Speaker 11: Miami in scoring with twenty four points. They will take

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Speaker 11: on Boston in the one to eight matchup in the

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Speaker 11: East and Baseball. Friday night, the Mets beat the Dodgers

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Speaker 11: nine to four behind home runs from Francisco Lindor and

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Speaker 11: DJ Stewart Arizona mollywopped the Giant seventeen to one. Justin

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Speaker 11: Turner went deep for Toronto in a five to one

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Speaker 11: victory over the Padres. If you're Justin Verlander won his

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Speaker 11: season debut for Houston, a five to three final over

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Speaker 11: Washington Travis dr.

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Speaker 1: No with three home runs for the Braves, they defeated

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Speaker 1: Sexes eight to three. Back to Bernie Fredo.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks, Kevin, appreciate it, buddy. If we were

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Speaker 3: having this conversation on a Tuesday, the headline would be

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Speaker 3: Johntay Porter is currently on leave from the Toronto Raptors,

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Speaker 3: penning an investigation, and by the way, not for nothing.

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Speaker 3: In about twenty eight minutes, it will be midnight. From

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Speaker 3: where I am sitting, we'll launch the Midnight Hour. And

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Speaker 3: I should have clarified that better in the past. I

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Speaker 3: know that for a lot of my audience it's not

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Speaker 3: twelve midnight, but we call it to midnight Hour because

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Speaker 3: it's midnight from where I do the show here in

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas, and it's metaphorical the midnight Hour having to

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Speaker 3: do with seminal events, major turning point events and this

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Speaker 3: has to be one of them, and I really want

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Speaker 3: to get people's thoughts about whether or not sports betting

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Speaker 3: is starting to hurt sports, even though I think sports

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Speaker 3: betting his benefited and sports have benefited. And you can

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Speaker 3: argue that the system worked because he got caught. On

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Speaker 3: January twenty sixth, John Tay Porter in a game against

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Speaker 3: the Clippers. Well Better's profited heavily because one of the

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Speaker 3: prop bets was on Johntay Porter's unders. The over runners

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Speaker 3: that day for Johntay Porter DraftKings were five and a

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Speaker 3: half points, four and a half rebounds, one and a

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Speaker 3: half assists, and one three pointer, which gave the betters

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Speaker 3: the option to wager on him four opportunities. Now, the

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Speaker 3: under on porter three pointers was the most profitable wager

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Speaker 3: that day because Johntay Porter didn't even attempt a three

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Speaker 3: porter and finished the game with zero points, three be rebounds,

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Speaker 3: and one assist, so all four of those went under.

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Speaker 3: Porter left the game after playing just four minutes. He

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Speaker 3: was citing a reaggravation of an eye injury that he

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Speaker 3: had suffered a few days before. Now, sportsbook cost rules

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Speaker 3: mean are only valid if the player plays in the game.

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Speaker 3: If Porter had not played under, betters would not have

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Speaker 3: catched their bets and wagers they would.

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Speaker 2: Have been refunded with no profit or loss.

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Speaker 3: But he did play, checked out after four minutes, and

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Speaker 3: there was heavy odd betting activity. Two months later, on

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Speaker 3: March twentieth, in a game against the Sacrament of Kings,

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Speaker 3: John Tae Porter also left that game early, this time

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Speaker 3: due to reported illness. Much the same as in January.

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Speaker 3: The under on Porter's props were the most profitable bets

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Speaker 3: of the day. According to data from DraftKings. The points

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Speaker 3: total was seven and a half the rebound total was

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Speaker 3: five and a half. Once again, John Tey Porter finished

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Speaker 3: the game zero points and two rebounds. By the way,

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Speaker 3: as a VIPD, Porter was awarded, he got the typical

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Speaker 3: perks that you would provide a client who bets a

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Speaker 3: substantial amount, including promotional activity and tickets to sporting events, etc.

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Speaker 12: Etc.

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Speaker 3: And during this time, Porter operated a something called a

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Speaker 3: discord account that provided you know, stocks crypto gambling advice

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Speaker 3: for a monthly.

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Speaker 2: Subscription of forty nine to ninety nine, so you could.

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Speaker 3: Subscribe to Johntay Porter's service and get his thoughts. Now,

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Speaker 3: the NBA launched an investigation into Porter in late March

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Speaker 3: after these sports books started to notice a lot of

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Speaker 3: irregular betting on over runners in his stats in those

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Speaker 3: two Toronto Raptors games, and again in both games, Jontay

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Speaker 3: Porter exited after only playing a few minutes, and every

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Speaker 3: one of those totals went under and they were bet heavily.

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Speaker 3: Now the NBA's investigation found that Porter revealed information about

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Speaker 3: his own health to a known sports better ahead of

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Speaker 3: that March twentieth game against Sacramento, and another betty better

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Speaker 3: that was privy to that information placed an eighty thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars same game parlay that featured owners on Porter's stats

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Speaker 3: and that would win a million one according to the NBA. Now,

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Speaker 3: Porter played three minutes before leaving the game with an illness.

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Speaker 3: By the way, it's my understanding the bet, which was

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Speaker 3: played at Place to DraftKings, was not paid. NBA's investigation

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Speaker 3: also revealed that Jontay Porter placed at least thirteen bets

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Speaker 3: on NBA games using another person's online betting account. The

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Speaker 3: bets ranged anywhere from fifteen to twenty two thousand, totaling

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Speaker 3: fifty four thousand dollars. A little bit More, the NBA

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Speaker 3: also said that the total payout from those bets was

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Speaker 3: about seventy seven thousand, which netted winnings of twenty two thousand. Now,

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Speaker 3: none of these bets involved anything in which Porter played

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Speaker 3: three to four where parlays, including one that included a

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Speaker 3: bet on the Raptors to lose. All three bets lost,

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Speaker 3: according to the NBA. Now, sportsbooks also reported a tremendous

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Speaker 3: spike and betting interest on the under in several of

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Speaker 3: Porter's stats ahead of those two games January twenty sixth

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Speaker 3: against the Clippers where he played just four minutes, and

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Speaker 3: later against Memphis on the twentieth of March, again finished

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Speaker 3: with no points, three rebounds, one assist, all under the

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Speaker 3: lines of sportsbook can set creating profit for people who

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Speaker 3: bet on this.

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Speaker 2: John K.

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Speaker 3: Porter has been banned for life. This is very serious business. Now,

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Speaker 3: what's interesting is it has really caused a lot of

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Speaker 3: people to scratch their heads. There are very there are

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Speaker 3: tremendous varying opinions about the current state of sports betting

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Speaker 3: and how it relates to major league sports. Now again,

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Speaker 3: I truly believe that sports, college sports, and professional sports

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Speaker 3: have benefited tremendously from legalized sports betting, and they're coming up.

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Speaker 3: We're coming up on the six year anniversary of the

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Speaker 3: legalization in mid May, I think May.

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Speaker 2: Eighteenth, when PASPA was over turned. And I think you.

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Speaker 3: Could argue, as we as we talk about this story

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Speaker 3: in its entirety, that the system worked, the checks and

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Speaker 3: balances work, and the sports books are the best watchdog,

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Speaker 3: and he was caught and things got adjudicated fairly quickly,

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Speaker 3: and he's no longer in the NBA. But that doesn't

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Speaker 3: necessarily make certain people very, very comfortable. As I said,

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Speaker 3: coming up in twenty two minutes from where I sit,

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Speaker 3: it will be twelve midnight here in Las Vegas, hence

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Speaker 3: the midnight hour, and I very much look forward to

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Speaker 3: your calls tonight because I guarantee that people around the

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Speaker 3: country and certainly around the world. We've gotten calls from Japan, Australia, Ireland,

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Speaker 3: you name it, as well as all over the Eastern

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Speaker 3: time zone, where I understand it'll be three am in

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Speaker 3: the Eastern time zone, but midnight here.

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Speaker 2: Again. I know I'm beating this with a dead horse

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Speaker 2: because I should have done it before.

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Speaker 3: I want everybody to know that from where I sit,

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Speaker 3: it is midnight, so that's why we call it the

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Speaker 3: Midnight Hour.

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Speaker 2: But I want to hear from you that'll be coming.

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Speaker 3: Up top of the hour, and I want to also

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Speaker 3: shoot with you that it's not just Johntay Porter. This

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Speaker 3: is not just a one shot deal that's causing people

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Speaker 3: to raise an eyebrow. There have actually been lots of

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Speaker 3: incidents in the last couple of years in particular, where

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Speaker 3: we've seen a rising number of odd oddities across sports

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Speaker 3: and even threats. I'm going to share those with you

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Speaker 3: as part of the story. By the way, shortly after

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Speaker 3: the show tonight, the podcast will be going up. If

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Speaker 3: you missed any of tonight's show, Shay our guy, Shay Mogengard.

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Speaker 2: He'll post the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

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Speaker 3: and also be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again,

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Speaker 3: just search the Fox Sports Radio wherever you go to

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Speaker 3: get your podcast, and you'll see the show posted. Right

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Speaker 3: after we get off the air, we'll take a quick

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Speaker 3: roll call. In six years since the broad legalization of

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Speaker 3: sports betting in the United States, well, we know it

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Speaker 3: would be inevitable that someone would find themselves in a

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Speaker 3: lifetime suspension, and it's happened.

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Speaker 2: But there has actually.

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Speaker 3: Been an array of incidents leading up to what took

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Speaker 3: place this week that should have been foreshadowing that this

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Speaker 3: might happen. I'm Bernie Fraddle, who come to your line

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Speaker 3: from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, tarret dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, back on the Bernie Fradtle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Come to Lack from the Tireck dot com studios fourteen

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Speaker 3: minutes top of the hour. It is midnight from where

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Speaker 3: I sit here in the Las Vegas hence the midnight hour.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to your calls. What are we talking about?

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Speaker 2: You tell me?

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Speaker 3: Is the world of sports bedding now becoming a detriment

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Speaker 3: to college and professional sports? Or is it still a

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Speaker 3: good thing? Meaning is it starting to hurt the game?

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Speaker 3: Or is it still good for the game? Just got

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Speaker 3: a tweete from someone named Jordan. He says, Bernie, sports

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Speaker 3: and become more about points, spreads and competition. I'm exhausted

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Speaker 3: seeing these numbers thrown at me every day. It's also

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Speaker 3: a conflict of interest for sports leagues to take sponsor

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Speaker 3: money from sportsbooks whose livelihoods depend on the outcomes of games.

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Speaker 3: There's a thought. So the truth of the matter is,

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Speaker 3: there's a tremendous allure, a powerful allure for sports betting.

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Speaker 3: Even if you're a highly paid NBA player, right, why

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Speaker 3: do people bet?

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Speaker 2: They get high making the bet.

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Speaker 3: It enhances the viewing participation, It feeds your competitive spirit.

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Speaker 3: It just makes life more exciting if you got something

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Speaker 3: on the game. And you all know that. And the

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Speaker 3: truth of the matter is, so betting just continues to

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Speaker 3: go to unprecedented heights. We've seen record numbers of revenue

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three and sports total handle and it's

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Speaker 3: going to continue. But what's interesting is in the last

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Speaker 3: two years, and last year's in particular, and this is

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Speaker 3: going to lead into our discussion here in about twelve minutes,

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Speaker 3: we've seen a rising number of incidents that caused fans

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Speaker 3: to raise an eyebrow. I'm guessing you remember some of

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Speaker 3: these flash points. Well, obviously, we're just a month removed

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Speaker 3: from the recent federal bank fraud chargers that have been

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Speaker 3: levied upon Epi Misahara, the former interpreter for Shoheiyatani, which

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Speaker 3: marks the manifestation of its serious sports betting edition. Addiction,

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Speaker 3: excuse me, that left EPA more than forty million in debt.

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Speaker 3: Once again, the optics, the imaging, how it looks. I

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Speaker 3: think it hurts sports, or it hurts. It hurts but

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Speaker 3: and I want to digress again. I said about twenty

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Speaker 3: minutes ago that was regarding the NBA banishment of John t.

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Speaker 3: Porter made no mistake. It's about money. It's about image

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Speaker 3: and optics.

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Speaker 2: Not morality. It's about how things look.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you remember, in addition to a base situation,

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Speaker 3: there were suspensions of ten NFL players just last year

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Speaker 3: for various gambling related infractions. You even had a season

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Speaker 3: long ban for three Indianapolis Colts players, and the year

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Speaker 3: before you had a season long penalty for Calvin Ridley

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Speaker 3: who was playing for the Jaguars at the time. He

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Speaker 3: missed the entire twenty twenty two season. Now, because of

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Speaker 3: those violations and because of the imagery that it brought

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Speaker 3: upon the league, that prompted the NFL to completely heighten

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Speaker 3: their gambling penalty and enforcement structure.

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Speaker 2: And they did, and there were.

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Speaker 3: Specific rules that were in place for February Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: in Las Vegas. Thank god there were no incidents. And

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Speaker 3: it's not just football, and it's not just baseball hockey,

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Speaker 3: how about hockey? The NHL suspended a gentleman by the

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Speaker 3: name of Shane Pintel, who played for the Senator to

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Speaker 3: the Ottawa Senators. They suspended him last fall for half

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Speaker 3: a season for quote, activities related to sports wagering and

677
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Speaker 3: how can we forget. Most recently, former Jaguars employee a

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Speaker 3: Meet Patel was sentenced to six years in prison from

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Speaker 3: bezzling more than twenty two million dollars from the NFL

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Speaker 3: team he worked for, and he said, quote, He's been

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Speaker 3: struggling with his serious gambling addiction.

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Speaker 2: And it even.

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Speaker 3: Goes beyond that. Even without specific penalties involved other there

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00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: have been many other several concerning signs, including according to JB. Bickerstaff,

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Speaker 3: the head coach of the Cleveland Cavanier Cavaliers, he has

686
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Speaker 3: said on more than one occasion that he and his

687
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Speaker 3: family had been threatened by gamblers and tyres. Halliburton said

688
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Speaker 3: he feels like a prop and that his social media

689
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Speaker 3: has been dominated by gambling chatter. So when you add

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Speaker 3: all of these incidents up. This is just in the

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Speaker 3: last couple of years, eBay and shohe in the forty million,

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Speaker 3: the suspension of ten NFL players last year, a hockey player,

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Speaker 3: Shane Pento, the Jaguars employee of Meet Patel, who had

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Speaker 3: embezzled to pay gambling debts and threats that coaches and

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Speaker 3: even players get when perhaps their performance or lack thereof,

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00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: causes a better to lose a bet. The truth of

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Speaker 3: the matter is, even in spite of these incidents that

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Speaker 3: I just shared with you, sports betting is more popular

699
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Speaker 3: than ever. It continues to soar. It's north of one

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars not with a bee, and it's going

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Speaker 3: to continue to grow higher. And every major sports league

702
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: has built an extensive portfolio of gambling related business.

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Speaker 2: Relationships, and that has in some.

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Speaker 3: Cases sparked accusations of hypocrisy. Some fans don't like it,

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Speaker 3: others don't care. But what those leagues have sought to

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Speaker 3: do is create sort of a you know, a demarcation

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Speaker 3: that it's okay for the fans, but not o'kay for

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00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: the players. Now, Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner, he called

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Speaker 3: John tay Porter's conduct a cardinal sin, which completely threatens

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Speaker 3: the integrity elite. And he's right, but the banning of

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Speaker 3: John tay Porter merely shows that there's a powerful allure

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Speaker 3: of sports betting, even if you plan the NBA and

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00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: make millions of dollars and the need for constant, constant vigilance,

714
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Speaker 3: constant enforcement. But we have it, you see. That's what

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Speaker 3: makes this discussion so provocative. Is this John tay Porter

716
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 3: situation a failure or a success because the system appeared

717
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: to have worked. Now, Adam Silver was the first among

718
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: his peers over a decade ago to call for the

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Speaker 3: widespread legalization and regulations of sports betting. Ironically, it's his

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Speaker 3: league that has made history with his lifetime ban. And

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Speaker 3: I'm not putting it on the heels of Adam Silver

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Speaker 3: in any way.

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Speaker 2: The tooth of the.

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Speaker 3: Matter is spent six years since the legalization, It's inevitable

725
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: something like this was going to happen, and in the

726
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: last two years we found one situation after another. So

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Speaker 3: the midnight hour from where I sit, it's midnight. Is

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Speaker 3: gambling hurting or helping sports? We want to hear from

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Speaker 3: you eight seven, seven, nine nine six six three six

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Speaker 3: y nine eight seven seven, nine to nine on Fox

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Speaker 3: is sports betting, hurting or helping Major League sports and

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Speaker 3: college sports. I don't know over hear from you. Maybe

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Speaker 3: you bet, maybe you don't, Maybe you've just got an opinion.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you heard the man. The Bernie Frattle Show

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Speaker 3: From where I sit here in Las Vegas, Nevadi, it

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00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: is twelve midnight, and I do understand we have listeners

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00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 3: all around the country and all around the world, and

746
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Speaker 3: it may be different time when you are at but

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Speaker 3: here in Las Vegas, from where I sit, it is

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Speaker 3: twelve midnight. Hence it's time for the midnight hour. And

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Speaker 3: part of the theme the midnight Hour. In light of

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00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: the fact certainly that it is twelve midnight here where

751
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: I sit is the fact that the midnight hours in

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Speaker 3: metaphor for seminal events, big turning point, historical events that

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Speaker 3: people talk about, including what's happening in the world of

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Speaker 3: sports and sports betting. Have we reached a juncture our

755
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: sports betting now hurting sports? Or are they still helping sports?

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00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: We waste no further time. Let's go to the phones.

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Speaker 3: Emmett in Olympia, Washington. Get it started in my buddy.

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Speaker 13: What do you got, Bernie Fratto, how's it going?

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00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: Doing great?

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00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 5: You?

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Speaker 13: I'm doing great. So my thing with Dave is like

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Speaker 13: I feel like there's a couple of ways you can

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00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 13: look at this, Bernie. I mean, first of all, like

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Speaker 13: in the business standpoint, like the Vegas like books and

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00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 13: like all these like underground bookies are like whatever it

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00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 13: may be, they're making money, like they're making major dough.

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Speaker 13: So I feel like at that point, like and then

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00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 13: you have to look at like the NFL they're getting

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00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 13: sponsorships by draftings or whatnot to promote sports betting. So

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Speaker 13: it's like kind of like a good thing on that term.

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Speaker 14: But the part to me, Bernie, that.

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Speaker 13: Like where it becomes an issue for me is that

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Speaker 13: now we have these athletes doing it, and it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 13: we have.

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Speaker 5: To, you know, like it's like something that's you know,

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Speaker 5: a rule.

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Speaker 13: It's getting popular, It's gonna happen eventually, It's like anything

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Speaker 13: in life, Bernie. But I think the main issue, like

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Speaker 13: is it's like, oh, it's affecting like the game like

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Speaker 13: and that's for me as a fan comes in, you know,

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Speaker 13: not looking at it as like a business like or

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Speaker 13: you know, in terms of money. Is it's like, I

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00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 13: don't want to see these guys get banned. But I

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Speaker 13: think at the end of the day, with all this

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00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 13: money coming in, the leagues are going to find some

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Speaker 13: sort of solution, whether they you know, come up with rules.

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Speaker 13: I mean, what the porter guy did was a stupid

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Speaker 13: I mean, that guy he has everything coming to him.

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Speaker 13: So but I think there's going to be some sort

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Speaker 13: of boundary set and I think.

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Speaker 3: And there have been, and I appreciate the call, Buddy,

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00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: I want to make sure I gave everybody a fair

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Speaker 3: shot tonight. There have been plenty of boundary set and

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00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: there have been rules. And to your point, as a player,

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Speaker 3: even if you're not betting, it affects you. But I

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Speaker 3: would say this that even in spite of all this,

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Speaker 3: we are still having these issues. I just got a

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Speaker 3: tweet I want to relead from Manolo. He said, Bernie,

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Speaker 3: it's by far hurting it, Bernie, I live in Mexico.

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Speaker 3: Have other TV commercials about gambling sites. There's also an

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Speaker 3: app by the name of the score and invite you

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Speaker 3: to take a look at what said the chat room

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00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: all kinds of six degenerate racist comments. So there's a

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Speaker 3: vote for it's hurting sports. Andrew in Washington joints this.

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Speaker 3: What are your thoughts tonight, Andrew?

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Speaker 12: Are you.

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Speaker 2: Yellow going once? Going?

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Speaker 3: Try it twice? Okay, let's move on. Try back, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what happened there, Poppy in San Diego.

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Speaker 3: It's sports betting hurting the game.

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Speaker 15: Or helping good thing because we're making that bling bling

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Speaker 15: Bernie and uh, you know, sometimes when it's hurting it

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Speaker 15: is when they don't get the injury reports, like the

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Speaker 15: other time Joel embid and I was like, man, he's

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Speaker 15: not They were saying he wasn't going to play, and

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Speaker 15: then he played and they find him and stuff like that.

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Speaker 15: As a sports better as I'm betting, like, I want

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Speaker 15: to know the news and the injury report, who's going

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Speaker 15: to be playing? And you know, sooner or later, sports

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Speaker 15: betting is gonna be legal in California. But tomorrow I'm

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Speaker 15: interested in the games of Phoenix, sense and the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 15: We're gonna go with the Minnesota Timberwolves money line.

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Speaker 2: Oh and all right, thanks for checking in, Poppy.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate you, Bud. Let's move along, Tony in Miami. What

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get out of folks tonight is and

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Speaker 3: I love you, Poppy bot. What I'm trying to get

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Speaker 3: out of, folks, I want your strong opinion. You heard

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Speaker 3: my laundry list of incidents in just in the last

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Speaker 3: two years. We've now got a player suspended for life

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Speaker 3: and there was improprieties based on the unders.

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Speaker 2: Tony. Your thoughts, Tony and Miami.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Bernie, he said, is it hurting or helping?

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Speaker 16: Please?

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Speaker 12: Somebody please tell me where this is helping sports at all.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this is a big I can answer

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Speaker 2: that standalone. Tony.

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Speaker 3: It's clear there's a nexus. There is a correlation between

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Speaker 3: TV ratings, revenues, advertising revenues, all of the above, viewership

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Speaker 3: and sports betting. You have got people that will stay

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Speaker 3: with an NFL Monday Night game when the score is

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Speaker 3: thirty eight to three, because people got the over forty

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Speaker 3: two and they want to see if it hits.

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Speaker 2: But that's just my two cents, AND's hear what you've

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Speaker 2: got to say.

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Speaker 12: If I can give you a little pushback on that comment.

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Speaker 12: I know a lot of guys. I work with a

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Speaker 12: lot of guys in the mid twenties, early thirties.

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Speaker 2: They're not watching.

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Speaker 12: They're kind of they have these apps on their phone

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Speaker 12: where they're betting, and they're constantly checking the review score

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Speaker 12: as it goes. So I don't know if that's the leaship,

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Speaker 12: but I just I know you got a lot of

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Speaker 12: people to get to. I just wanted to say, I

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Speaker 12: think Porter is one that got caught. I think they're

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Speaker 12: everywhere in baseball. I don't want to say basketball, but

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Speaker 12: baseball definitely in soccer, and I wouldn't know enough about hockey.

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Speaker 12: I'm in Football is very difficult to manipulate.

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Speaker 10: But I will say football seems to be the.

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Speaker 12: Honest liar here, if you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 12: you can almost see the refs kind of manipulating as

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Speaker 12: it goes. So if I have to revert back in

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Speaker 12: the NFL, I would stick with if I have to

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Speaker 12: watch something, but it's definitely hurt Sadly, no one's a

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00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 12: team a fan of a team anymore. It's always what

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Speaker 12: are the odds. The conversations don't start off like they

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Speaker 12: did fifteen to twenty years ago about players, greatness, great

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Speaker 12: teams and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: Excellent call, excellent call, Tony.

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Speaker 3: You covered a lot of ground there, and what you're

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Speaker 3: basically saying is it is cast to Paul and a

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Speaker 3: connotation over sports above and beyond what's taking place on

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Speaker 3: the field and focusing merely more on the action surrounding

873
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Speaker 3: the game. Jack in Texas, you're up next sports betting,

874
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 3: helping or hurting.

875
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 8: Hey how you doing, Bernie?

876
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 12: But I thank you.

877
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 8: The short answer is both. I think it might come

878
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 8: to a tipping point. You get one of the the

879
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 8: Otani deal, you get one of these marquee guys who

880
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 8: gets caught doing this, and it might the public might

881
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 8: lose fate in the whole.

882
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: That's the biggest fear.

883
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: That's the biggest fear of Jack, that the integrity of

884
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: the outcomes becomes in question.

885
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 8: Follow me, hope, But I mean it has definitely grown things.

886
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 8: There's no doubt about that.

887
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: Fair enough, Jack, appreciate you checking in tonight. Don't be

888
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: a stranger, Stephen Kangas look forward to your thoughts again

889
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: to night.

890
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 17: Hey, Bernie, great topic as usual. I kind of want

891
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 17: to expand on what the previous callers said. You know,

892
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 17: the truthful answer is that the franchises and the leagues

893
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 17: need this money. It's not a question of whether it's

894
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 17: going to go away or not. They're losing viewership, the

895
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 17: cable networks are dropping their products. And when I grew up,

896
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 17: when I was a kid, and I suspect you have

897
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 17: the same experience. I used to watch my hero the

898
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 17: Chicago Bulls battle the Bad Boys battles. Oh yeah, the

899
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 17: Los Angeles Lakers.

900
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: It was drama.

901
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 17: It was high drama, better than any movie you could

902
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 17: possibly see when I was a kid. You're you've probably

903
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 17: got a few years on me. But I that's what

904
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 17: I feel. I don't feel these guys are all millionaires now,

905
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 17: I don't really care. I mean, they need to lean

906
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 17: into the angle of the Denver Nuggets being the Lakers

907
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 17: daddy and that that sort of thing that would make

908
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 17: for great drama. But They're distilling all the joy out

909
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 17: of this thing because they can't. You know, they're they're beholden.

910
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 17: They have to have this revenue, and I don't think

911
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 17: they can really offend risk offending anyone. But I want

912
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 17: to go back to those days where I could watch

913
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 17: my team play, you know, conquer and no one believed

914
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 17: that Dennis Robin was the bad boy.

915
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 12: But it was great.

916
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 17: It was highest the highest drama, the highest quarter. Or

917
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 17: watch them beat the Magic Johnson Lakers. I mean, you can't,

918
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 17: you can't get that nowadays. I don't know what the

919
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 17: whole thing is going to go downhill and be on streaming.

920
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 17: You won't be able to watch television on sports anymore.

921
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 17: I get guys in the bar, they tell me that

922
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 17: they can see more soccer games here than they can

923
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 17: in their own country. Means that means we're going where

924
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 17: everything is on pay per view and sports is segmented,

925
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 17: and it's just not it's just not right. Congress has

926
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 17: to do something.

927
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Steve.

928
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: So the long and the short of it is, I

929
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 3: think what Steve is implying is he's much more attracted

930
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: to the essence of the game and the competition and

931
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 3: the rivalries and the storylines and the historical perspective more

932
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 3: so than gambling, and gambling is infringed.

933
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: Upon that and for a lot of people that has

934
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: and let's not bury the lead here.

935
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: People have been betting illegally billions of dollars long before

936
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: May of twenty eighteen, and they still are.

937
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: The question now is now.

938
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 3: That it's come out of the shadows and it's more

939
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: mainstream and doesn't seem as taboo. We are seeing these

940
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 3: incidents that are being publicized and bubbling to the surface

941
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 3: with big name players, including a player whose brother plays

942
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 3: for the Denver NU It's Michael Porter Jr.

943
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 2: His brother is banned for life. Andrew from Washington, Let's

944
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: give it a try again. What are your thoughts?

945
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 5: Thanks Bernie helving me back. I think it's actually hurting

946
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 5: the game, man.

947
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

948
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 5: Just like a few people said previously, Uh, it takes

949
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 5: a question you know the ouxm of the game, and

950
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 5: you know who's actually trying and who isn't trying. I'm

951
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 5: just a you know, I'm a peer for peer entertainment,

952
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 5: just like the guy before me said. When I was

953
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 5: growing up, man, I used to be able to see

954
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 5: basketball games all week and long. You know, I barely

955
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 5: get to see one now, you know, and I mean

956
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 5: I got streaming services. I can see a couple here

957
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 5: and there. But like you said, this is getting out

958
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 5: of control with the you know, as much money as

959
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 5: these tv as, these as these uhs are bringing in,

960
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 5: he would think that they would offer more things to

961
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 5: the public to bring in that, you know, to bring

962
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 5: you in. It's just all about money these days, man,

963
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 5: no question about that.

964
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: All right, Thanks Andrew. We're going to get to all

965
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: the callers. We're going to hear from all of you.

966
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 3: No one gets turned away, spockedor age.

967
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 2: You are up next.

968
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 3: Are sports hurting or helping? Check that's sports helping or hurting?

969
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: Professional sports and even college sports in light of the

970
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: headlines that I've shared with you that have taken place

971
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: just in the last month with EPA and then of

972
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: course John tay Porter. It is the midnight hour. I

973
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 3: call it to midnight hour because from where I sit

974
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: here in Las Vegas, it is in.

975
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: The midnight hour.

976
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 3: I acknowledge you folks from around the country might be

977
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 3: a different time where you're at, but we call it

978
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 3: the midnight hour because from where I sit, it is

979
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 3: the midnight Hour, and I appreciate everybody's participation. Eight seven

980
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 3: seven nine ninety six six three six ' nine. We're

981
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 3: gett all. You don't be bashful. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're

982
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 3: coming to your life in the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio,

983
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: Tirec dot Com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to

984
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio eight seven,

985
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 3: seven nine nine six six three six nine eight seven, seven,

986
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: nine and nine on Fox Tonight's Midnight Hour topic. It

987
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 3: is midnight hour here in Las Vegas, Nevada, from where

988
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: I I'm doing the show. That's why we call it

989
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: the midnight Hour. A decided pattern that's forming.

990
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 18: It.

991
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: Just got another tweet from Homer nineteen sixty seven. Gambling

992
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: is further corrupt in sports. It's always had elements of corruption,

993
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: but it seems to be an open secret.

994
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: Now.

995
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 3: Tired of watching commercials from various betting platforms, please.

996
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: Back out to the phones. My man spocks week.

997
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 14: What's up, buddy man, It's good to talk to you. Bernie. Hey.

998
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 14: By the way, what time is it out there where

999
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 14: you're at?

1000
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 2: It is twelve twenty one am.

1001
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 19: To know it.

1002
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 3: I want to make sure We've been doing this three

1003
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: months and it's on me. I want to make sure

1004
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 3: everybody knows that there's a reason we call it the

1005
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: midnight hour. Even though we're a lot of calls, we

1006
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: get it's not midnight, but continue on.

1007
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: We dear doing it all right.

1008
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 14: Well, the first thing I want to say is seeing

1009
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 14: Dennis Rodman in a wedding dress was awesome.

1010
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 2: So there's that, yep.

1011
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 8: And then what I think we need to.

1012
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 14: Get to is as far as sports putting go the

1013
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 14: genies out of the bottle, it is there is no

1014
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 14: going back. And I know you know.

1015
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: And my thing is I believe that the.

1016
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 14: Purity of sports has been damaged, but the popularity of

1017
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 14: sports has been really increased.

1018
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so guilty pleasure, and we're not going back that it.

1019
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 14: Has that for equivocation, sir, well you're not really equivocating.

1020
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 3: I think what you're doing is saying we can hold

1021
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 3: two thoughts concurrently. I don't know, man, It's maybe not

1022
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 3: help sports the hell of a lot, but we're all

1023
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 3: here for it.

1024
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 14: Go ahead, that's true. And the thing I needed I

1025
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 14: need to say is that perfect is the enemy of good.

1026
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: Here's where we're at.

1027
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 14: I believe it's the right thing to do to ban

1028
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 14: the young man for life. We need to make sure

1029
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 14: there are sports betting is as equal and fair as

1030
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 14: we can possibly make it, because here we are, we

1031
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 14: want to keep the purity of sports in it as

1032
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 14: best we can, and aggressive regulation and aggressive making sure

1033
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 14: that things are on the up and up are what

1034
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 14: we need to do. And we're not going to be

1035
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 14: perfect at it. But you know, folks, we are all adults.

1036
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 5: We have vices.

1037
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 14: This is a reflection of what society is today and

1038
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 14: if you can't handle it, it is on you. And

1039
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 14: you have the opportunity to take a look at all

1040
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 14: the information, and we need to publicize it all and

1041
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 14: figure out what you can live with and what you can't.

1042
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 14: I like to put twenty bucks on a bet just

1043
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 14: to be a part of the deal. I can afford

1044
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 14: to put a thousand dollars on a bet, but I

1045
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 14: don't because that's not what I want to be a

1046
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 14: part of because I work too hard for the money

1047
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 14: I earned. So you know, we're not going to privolously

1048
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 14: screw with it. But it's fun. That's the way that

1049
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 14: society is and we need to remember that again. We

1050
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 14: can't be perfect, but we can make it as good

1051
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 14: as we possibly can and make as fun for everybody

1052
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 14: as we possibly can. And realize that's here, that's where

1053
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 14: we are, and we're not going back.

1054
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: All right, spot, We'll talk to you again, and to

1055
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 3: your point, I will say this that you can be

1056
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: sure that the regulations and watchdog aspect of this will

1057
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 3: remain vigilant. The sports books are the best watch dogs.

1058
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 3: They don't want a raw deal, trust me, they don't

1059
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 3: want to be compromised. Dre in Central California. Thanks for

1060
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 3: hanging on.

1061
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 2: You're up next.

1062
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 9: Hey, thanks for taking my call, Bernie.

1063
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 18: Sure it's the midnight hour here in Central California as well.

1064
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 18: There you go, there go, I got to concur with

1065
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 18: the last caller.

1066
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 16: Yeah, you can have two pleasures right there.

1067
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 17: It's gambling.

1068
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 4: Of course, it's bad for sports.

1069
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 18: At the same time it's good for sports. Hey, I'm

1070
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 18: sixty years old. When I was a kid, every Sunday

1071
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 18: I watch.

1072
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 9: The NFL at Musburger the game he was going to cover.

1073
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 9: He would tell you what the points spread was.

1074
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: That's right right, Jimmy the Greek.

1075
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 4: Jimmy the Greek would as well.

1076
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 17: Jimmy the Greek will go over many many games with

1077
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 17: the you know, it.

1078
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 16: Just spled was how about all?

1079
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 9: You know, when the officials get into it is when

1080
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 9: it really gets.

1081
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 8: Sturdy for me.

1082
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 19: How did you pronounce his name?

1083
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 18: Tim donna Ue, Tim Donnie Wue?

1084
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 3: Well, Tim Donahey was the disgraced NBA ref who was caught.

1085
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, you're right, so this is nothing new

1086
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 3: to your point.

1087
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: Could continue on.

1088
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 13: Yes, it just it's a matter of you know, how

1089
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 13: much you love sports.

1090
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 18: Somebody earlier was pulled in and said they just can't

1091
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 18: get into it thinking about the gambling. Me.

1092
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 10: I love sports so much.

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00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 20: You were talking about the Warriors earlier.

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00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 18: Hey, I knew the dynasty was getting in. I've seen

1095
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 18: it in. But this last ten years been you know,

1096
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 18: for me, it's it's been great, and I'm excited. Usually

1097
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 18: when June comes, I'm anyer fan. You know, last few

1098
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 18: year has been great. Now when they're not so great, Hey,

1099
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 18: my gambling takes over. I'm not crazy, m I have

1100
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 18: friends that gamble on preseason football and that's just go

1101
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 18: right there.

1102
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: I got to get to these calls, great call, good stuff,

1103
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 3: and I think one of the themes and harken back

1104
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 3: to spots call. Look, it's like ice cream. I love

1105
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: ice cream. I don't need to eat a gallon of it.

1106
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,959
Speaker 3: You can have fun betting. You can get justice pissed

1107
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: off when a guy missing a free throw betting twenty

1108
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: dollars a game is a diamond game, which is one

1109
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: thousand dollars in betting parlance.

1110
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: Damon in Indiana, you're up next? How are you tonight?

1111
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: I'm great.

1112
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 4: It's three o'clock here in Indiana.

1113
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: Best to midnight? All right, go ahead.

1114
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 4: I love your love.

1115
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 9: I love your show, Bernie.

1116
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 4: Thanks Reality, I think.

1117
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: Oh what happened to Damon? Are we losing?

1118
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 12: Shay?

1119
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 14: Are you there?

1120
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 2: Damon?

1121
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 20: I'm here, OK, go ahead?

1122
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: Can you hear me? Yeah?

1123
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 21: Short term?

1124
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 4: Short term betting is good for sports. Long term, I

1125
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 4: think it is terrible now. Reality tells us, who tells

1126
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 4: us that betting has always existed. I bet you if

1127
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 4: you go to ancient Greek times in the coliseum anytime

1128
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 4: there's sports, I bet you they were, they were betting,

1129
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: and betting will always be there, no matter if it's

1130
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 4: legal or not. The problem is, I think that the

1131
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: average sports fan, a new sports fan now is different

1132
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: than it ever has been. I think the purity of

1133
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 4: sport is different. You know, when we were I'm fifty two.

1134
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: When I was a kid, I wanted just to watch

1135
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: the game. I wanted to it was just the love

1136
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 4: of the game. The new sports fan Now it's all

1137
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 4: about what's to spread. A lot of the times, it's

1138
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 4: not more. It's not about the it's not about.

1139
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 20: Enjoying the game.

1140
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 8: It's that I win my bet or not.

1141
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 2: Like there's more some people it's that way, but for

1142
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: the vast majority.

1143
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 4: Well it's I think it's more of that way than

1144
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 4: it ever has.

1145
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: Been, could be, could be because.

1146
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 4: And I don't think that's good. And I think there's

1147
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 4: more people that I have too many friends. Now I

1148
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 4: know this matters. I'm a pastor, and I see more

1149
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 4: and more people that just are are struggle with addiction.

1150
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 4: Now I don't have a problem gambling people. You know

1151
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: a lot of people can gamble and they're and they

1152
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 4: they are okay with it. There's so many people that

1153
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 4: get into the habit and they're so addicted to it.

1154
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 4: And now it's right there in their hands and anyway

1155
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 4: in most states now you can do it anytime.

1156
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 3: All right, all right, damn thanks, don't be a stranger.

1157
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: It's like anything else in life or any other vice.

1158
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: Moderation is usually saves the day, no different than drinking.

1159
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: And in spite of all the advertisements and awareness we have,

1160
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 3: there will still be drunk drivers tonight. Incredible that they'll

1161
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 3: get behind a wheel. Alberto in San Diego.

1162
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 21: What do you got my friend, o, nique Ola nic almost.

1163
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 5: No Ni.

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00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 21: Listen the topic that you touching right now, I mean whenever,

1165
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 21: if somebody wants.

1166
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 5: To make a bed, that will do it. It makes

1167
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 5: no difference.

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Speaker 21: Is more available right now, and it's going to hurt

1169
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 21: a lot of people. But we're talking about the essence

1170
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 21: of the game and the basically the players and the

1171
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 21: issue that thing down sports because it's too tempting. There's

1172
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 21: too many people involved and they have an not an excuse.

1173
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 21: But when you have the owners of professional sports in

1174
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 21: bed with the big companies that have the betting apps,

1175
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 21: that's a recipe for disaster. And it's going to take

1176
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 21: a few years, but eventually something big is going to

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01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 21: happen on that. I mean, the people the eisier with this.

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Speaker 3: Guy, well, you can argue, okay, I appreciate you Berta,

1179
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: enjoy your weekend. You can argue something big has happened.

1180
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: We've now had a player that lost his livelihood. He's

1181
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: banned for life based on simple improprieties, and he got sloppy,

1182
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 3: really sloppy. And a year ago it was a bit

1183
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: more innocuous when some Detroit Lions players were betting from

1184
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 3: their app at team headquarters in Allen Park, so they

1185
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: had to adjudicate new rules. I guess we're seeing significant

1186
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: growing paints. The question will remain though our sports betting,

1187
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: sports betting, hurting the game or helping the game. We're

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01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 3: getting all you, Jason and Tim. You're up next with first,

1189
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 3: let's go to our guy, Kevin Figures, who will mollywop

1190
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 3: this subject later on?

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Speaker 12: Kevin?

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01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: What you got?

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01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: All right, Bernie, We'll start with the NBA.

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01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 11: We had the final playoff spots clinched on Friday night,

1195
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 11: with New Orleans getting twenty four points from Brandon Ingram.

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01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 11: They defeated Sacramento one oh five to ninety eight to

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01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 11: clinch the eighth seed in the Western Conference and a

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01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 11: first round matchup against Oklahoma City. Miami advanced to a

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Speaker 11: first round series matchup against Boston after they picked up

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01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 11: a one to twelve to ninety one win over Chicago,

1201
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 11: Tyler Hero just missing a triple double there twenty four points,

1202
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 11: ten rebounds in nine assists. Bullsguard Kobe White scored just

1203
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 11: thirteen points on five of sixteen shooting, after his forty

1204
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 11: t two point output against Atlanta earlier in the week.

1205
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 11: In baseball, the Mets blew a four nothing lead, but

1206
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 11: Francisco Lindor hit a two run home run, helping fuel

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01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 11: an eventual nine to four victory over the Dodgers, who

1208
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 11: have lost four of their last five. The Diamondbacks racked

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01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 11: up twenty two hits in a seventeen to one demolition

1210
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 11: of the Giants. It was Toronto five in San Diego one,

1211
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 11: Milwaukee defeated the Cardinals two to one. In extras wins

1212
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 11: for the Yankees, Royals, and the Phillies. All right, back

1213
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 11: to Bernie Freddo.

1214
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Speaker 3: All right, thanks Kevin eight seven seven nine nine six

1215
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: six three six nine seven, nine to nine. On Fox,

1216
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 3: We're getting all you is sports betting, hurting or helping

1217
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 3: the game. Jason in Portland, thanks for hanging on. What

1218
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:41,479
Speaker 3: do you got for us tonight?

1219
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1220
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 20: So the question being is it good for hurting sports

1221
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 20: my opinion, as an athlete or somebody that enjoys sports

1222
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 20: for the players a lot like a lot of your

1223
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 20: other callers are saying it's hurting it. However, it is

1224
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 20: actually good for sport in the over just based on

1225
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 20: there's more viewership, more people that weren't watching the games,

1226
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 20: and the athletes ten, fifteen, twenty years ago that didn't

1227
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 20: care about sports, they are more into different things and

1228
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 20: now they are into the numbers, they're into the Vegas odds,

1229
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 20: they're into the book. So viewership has actually gone up

1230
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 20: in a larger.

1231
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: To never support that. The numbers actually support that.

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01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 20: Yeah, So I'm saying it's but for you know, the

1233
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 20: normal fan, or not a normal fan, but the fan

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01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 20: like myself that actually played on the grid, Irons and

1235
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 20: stuff like that and watched the sports for the teams,

1236
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 20: for the people, for the players, and the outcomes that

1237
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 20: we hope our teams. I'm a common Arizona Cardinal fan,

1238
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 20: so I hope every day. But you know, it's like it,

1239
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 20: but it's been better for sports in a hole in

1240
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 20: my opinion, I.

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01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 3: Agree, all right, I think so Jason, all right, good

1242
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: good stuff. Tim in Minneapolis, what do you say thoughts

1243
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 3: on the subject. Do we have Tim in Minneapolis with us.

1244
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: As quick as they can.

1245
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 16: Perfect so I think to make it as simple as again,

1246
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 16: I think it's hurting the sport more than anything sports

1247
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 16: in general. The NFL is what I follow the most,

1248
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 16: and I think it's interesting to look at the way

1249
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 16: that they gauge numbers. Obviously they gauge viewership numbers for

1250
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 16: for advertising, which obviously, if you have do more better,

1251
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 16: you're going to have more viewers. I would I would

1252
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 16: push back on stocks statement that the sport is losing viewership,

1253
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 16: but it's getting more popularity. I don't know it's the

1254
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 16: sport that gains the popularity. It's the rush of betting,

1255
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 16: and it's the rush of betting. And I don't know

1256
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 16: always kind of how betting works here in Vegas. You

1257
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 16: probably know better than I do. But my understanding is

1258
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 16: that your your your your.

1259
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 8: People that make the.

1260
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 16: Bets are obviously trying to push that bet towards them.

1261
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 16: They look for inside information ways to to set those

1262
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 16: stakes of the bet.

1263
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 3: And I think that that's one percent, that's one percent

1264
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 3: of the people who bet Tim. The truth of the

1265
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 3: matter is that your little secret is the vast majority

1266
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 3: of betters don't really bet to make money. They think

1267
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 3: they do. They bet because they get high, making the

1268
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 3: bet go ahead. Final thought.

1269
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 16: Final thought is, I think the frustrating side of all

1270
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 16: of the betting is the way that the NFL looks

1271
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 16: at it. When Calvin Ridley got suspended for an entire season,

1272
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 16: Deshaun Watson was originally only going to get six six

1273
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 16: games versus the six team that Calvin Ridley got, and

1274
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 16: it just to me that shows what the NFL, what

1275
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 16: matters more to them.

1276
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: I think, well, okay, okay, that's a really good point,

1277
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 3: thanks for checking in. I want to address that ever

1278
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: so quickly. What that speaks to is the hypervigilance and

1279
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: the extreme sensitivity and the real concern that if there's

1280
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 3: ever a perception that NFL games are fixed or you

1281
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: can't trust the integrity of the game, the outcome of

1282
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: the game, it potentially be comes W W E. And

1283
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 3: I promise you all the sports are definitely afraid of that,

1284
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: and I think there will be there will always be

1285
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: significant efforts to prevent that from happening.

1286
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: Greg and Detroit, thanks for your patience. You're up next.

1287
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 20: Heyd Berry.

1288
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 13: I just was calling.

1289
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 19: Uh.

1290
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 22: You know, they they got the video game logos, they

1291
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 22: got video games, they got video game uh uh catches

1292
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 22: and now they got video game and I don't think

1293
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 22: there's anything.

1294
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: Hey Greg, Hey, hey Greg, we got something going on

1295
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 3: with your phone. Dial Back will get you right back up.

1296
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 3: But uh, we're getting kicked in the nuts here every

1297
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 3: two seconds, and it's a it's not pleasing to the listener.

1298
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: But Greg, let's let's hear it back from you. Dial

1299
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 3: take his call.

1300
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 2: It's shay.

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 23: Uh.

1302
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 3: Let's uh, we'll get back to Gregor a minute. DJ

1303
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: in Syracuse check it in in the midnight out is Yeah,

1304
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 3: it's e J.

1305
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 2: It's e J. I'm sorry, said D. Go ahead, we apologize.

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01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 19: Oh no, I just want to show you what I

1307
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 19: appreciate you guys that listen to you all the time.

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Speaker 19: So I grew up with you guys, have great conversations.

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Speaker 3: All right, What do you have any thoughts on whether

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01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 3: or not sports betting is is hurting the game or

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Speaker 3: helping the game.

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Speaker 19: I believe it's hurting the game because there's not too

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Speaker 19: many trustworthy people out here these days.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it does.

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Speaker 3: It does rely on a fair amount of trust doesn't

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Speaker 3: it right? All right, Eja, I appreciate you calling in.

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Speaker 3: We are we have we have very much established decidedly

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Speaker 3: a pattern night. His Greg dial back in, Shay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: let me know if he gets if he's back in. Uh,

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Speaker 3: let's take a minute to check in with Kevin figures. Kevin,

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Speaker 3: you've been listening to this conversation, and you live on

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Speaker 3: this planet, and you work for a sports talk station,

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Speaker 3: and you're not mixed up about what's been going on

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Speaker 3: in society. Do you have thoughts as to the subject

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Speaker 3: we're talking about.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, and I do agree with one of the previous

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Speaker 11: callers who and it might seem like a cop out,

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Speaker 11: but I think it's both good and bad.

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Speaker 1: And you've mentioned the good.

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Speaker 11: I mean, look at the amount of revenue that is

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Speaker 11: generating for the sports, the positive that these teams are aligning,

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Speaker 11: or these leagues are aligning themselves with a lot of

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Speaker 11: these betting apps and casinos, and it's netting more profits

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Speaker 11: for the leagues, which means more profits for the owners

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Speaker 11: and more profits for the players.

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Speaker 1: So they're all winning in that sense.

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Speaker 11: I think when you look at situations like this, any

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Speaker 11: sort of revolutionary move that brings about change usually has

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Speaker 11: some sort of unintended consequence.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and in some senses, you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that were seed might be the wrong word to use.

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Speaker 11: But you have to go through a lot more effort

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01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 11: if you didn't live in a even now, if you

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Speaker 11: don't live in a state that has legalized sports betting.

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Speaker 1: Now, it's just so easy to pull up an app

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Speaker 1: on your phone.

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Speaker 11: And I'm taking back to a couple of months ago

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Speaker 11: a press conference that the head coach of the Cavaliers, JB. Bickerstaff,

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Speaker 11: had when he says, I'm trying to coach a basketball game,

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Speaker 11: and people are heckling me from the third and fourth

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01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 11: row about taking Donovan Mitchell out of a game when

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Speaker 11: we're up by fifteen with thirty seconds left, because they

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Speaker 11: want me to leave them in so we can cover

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Speaker 11: the spread of seventeen points or whatever. I'm getting death

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Speaker 11: threats to my home because people are saying that I'm

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Speaker 11: losing bets. Tyre's Halliburton says, I'm not even a player

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Speaker 11: or a person. I'm a prop. Yes, you know these

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Speaker 11: are the certain things that players. Yes, they love fans.

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Speaker 11: They wouldn't be where they are financially without the fans,

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Speaker 11: but at a certain point you want to go out

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Speaker 11: there and just play the game without having to deal

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Speaker 11: with these certain amount of burdens. So I do think

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Speaker 11: it's good for the game in some senses because to

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Speaker 11: your point TV ratings, as I mentioned a second ago

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Speaker 11: about revenues, but to a certain degree, just to be

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Speaker 11: a pure competition of these guys going out and doing

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Speaker 11: their jobs A lot of times gets lost because so

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01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 11: many people are caught up on how it affects their

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Speaker 11: parlays or how it affects their bottom lines. And so

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Speaker 11: I do think it's there's a good and bad, there's

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Speaker 11: a give and take with.

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Speaker 3: It, and to your point, there's sort of growing pains

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Speaker 3: and those that situation involving JB.

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Speaker 2: Bickerstaff.

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Speaker 3: He's the head coach of the Cavaliers, and he's mentioned

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01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 3: he and his family have been threatened by gamblers, and

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Speaker 3: I mentioned him in the Tyrese Haliburton quote right after

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Speaker 3: your eleven thirty update. It's it's part of the landscape

1379
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 3: now in terms of these people show up to games

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Speaker 3: and they got money on the game, and it arouses

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 3: emotion and inflames the passions of very excitable people. Sometimes

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Speaker 3: Fred and Nebraska you're up next. Your thoughts on the subject, Well.

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Speaker 10: I think it's kind of a spinoff from fantasy football

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Speaker 10: because a lot of people don't care if their teams

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Speaker 10: win or teams win. They just want to know if

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Speaker 10: their guy is getting their fantasy points or if their

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Speaker 10: guy is winning there over and under. And I just

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01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 10: think people are watching more to see how the people

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Speaker 10: that they're betting on do more than anything.

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Speaker 3: That is very fair, and I think the comparison to

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Speaker 3: fantasy football is not inappropriate. Remember years ago when DraftKings

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Speaker 3: came out with their daily fantasy sports there was an

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Speaker 3: argument is it gambling or is it not gambling?

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Speaker 2: And it was quite a debate.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, Fred, it causes people to focus

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Speaker 3: more on the outcome of their particular wager or their

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 3: player performance versus the actual outcome of the game.

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Speaker 10: Final thoughts, Fred, Well, that was just about it. You know,

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01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 10: back in the eighties and nineties, guys could name off

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Speaker 10: all the starters on their teams or their favorite teams.

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Speaker 10: And I know guys are that favorite teams that can't

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Speaker 10: name more than two of the people on those teams.

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01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 10: Back in the days, you could name everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's engenered a different type of a sports fan.

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 3: Good stuff for I appreciate you checking in from the

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01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 3: grat Nebraska. Gratton from Detroit is back. Let's keep our

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01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 3: fingers crossed that the phone has lost its hiccup.

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Speaker 23: Yes, Bertie, could you hear me better?

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Speaker 12: Better?

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Speaker 2: Much better? Greg?

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01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 23: Go ahead, Oh great, great, great.

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Speaker 12: So I just was trying to say that, you know,

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Speaker 12: a lot of the performances.

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Speaker 23: Have turned into almost like a video game, and whether

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01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 23: it's hitting shots from half court or some of the

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01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 23: dunks and the catch in the NFL, and I just

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Speaker 23: think as we transfer over now, we've got video game currency,

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Speaker 23: and a lot of the currency is not the way

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Speaker 23: I guess I grew up with the type of money

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Speaker 23: I grew up with, where you know, when you got

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Speaker 23: a twenty dollars billion your pocket, I think they look

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Speaker 23: at currency different. I think Porter Junior and a lot

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Speaker 23: of other players that are doing this. You know, there's

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Speaker 23: six year olds that are reviewing toys on YouTube getting

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Speaker 23: you know, five and a half million dollars ex exponentially,

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Speaker 23: and so money's not the same. I do have a resolution,

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Speaker 23: at least unless they're going to try to, you know,

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Speaker 23: go back to twenty eleven, and I think the resolution

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Speaker 23: was to would be to implement defense.

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Speaker 12: Again.

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Speaker 23: One thing about defense in all of sports is it

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Speaker 23: can't be calculated most of the time. It's a very

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Speaker 23: difficult thing to calculate.

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Speaker 24: Whether it's baseball, football, basketball, and it's specifically keeping the

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Speaker 24: scores down, and it creates attrition.

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Speaker 23: When you got like you were saying, a couple of

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Speaker 23: callers talked about the bad boys, and you know the

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Speaker 23: rivalries with that came defense in all of sports.

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Speaker 3: So well, I just think, yeah, fair enough, Greg. I

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01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 3: appreciate you checking in, buddy, and don't be a stranger.

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Speaker 3: There are actually, not to split Hare's plenty of defensive metrics.

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Speaker 3: He brings up a good point because most people like

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01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: to bet overs and most people like to bet favorites.

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01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 3: You want to see points, you want to see runs,

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Speaker 3: you want to see touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I get all that.

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Speaker 16: He's right that.

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Speaker 3: I think the subtext to what Greg is saying is

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Speaker 3: that this is engendered a fan base that forgot that

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Speaker 3: defense is a big important part of the game. However,

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Speaker 3: to his point, and I appreciate you calling in, Greg,

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01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,799
Speaker 3: we have a situation where there's plenty of defensive props

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01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 3: that you can also play, which also adds to the mix.

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Speaker 3: We'll continue when you will wrap up this subject. Our

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Speaker 3: sports betting is the legalization of sports betting, hurting or

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Speaker 3: helping sports eight seven seven nine ninety six six three

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Speaker 3: six nine. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're a company live from

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, diirec dot Com studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're back on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio. Last chance to get in nine nine to seven.

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Speaker 3: Uh check that eight seven seven nine nine six six

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Speaker 3: three six y nine. Our sports hurting or helping our

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Speaker 3: sports betting, hurting or helping the game. Pretty provocative thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Good callers the last hour, and one of them was

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Speaker 3: even a pastor, which I appreciate hearing from it. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to cast as persions, but it reminds me

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Speaker 3: of an old joke where Notre Dame was playing a

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Speaker 3: football game and a young freshman recruit or a high

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Speaker 3: school recruit was invited for the pregame speech and father

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Speaker 3: and makay. He gave a very impassioned speech before the

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Speaker 3: game and even led the team in prayer, and after

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Speaker 3: after word, the young recruit asked him, father, does does

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Speaker 3: that really help when you do that? And he says, well,

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Speaker 3: I sure hope. So we're laying seven points today, last

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Speaker 3: chance to get in eight seven, seven, nine ninety six

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Speaker 3: six three sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: Shay, give me your thoughts. You've been listening, the observer,

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Speaker 2: observing and taking all the calls. I appreciate that Chay's

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Speaker 2: taking a call. Mark, let's hear from you ever so

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Speaker 2: quickly on the subject.

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Speaker 25: I think that the betting has made like a made

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Speaker 25: it cloudy over sports, I meaning, you know what, It's

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Speaker 25: made it okay for this behavior of betting, and only

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Speaker 25: because of let's just say, movies and certain things that

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Speaker 25: have happened that are possible now because it's okay to bet,

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Speaker 25: it's made betting.

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Speaker 1: It's made sports cloudy.

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Speaker 25: So, like some of the callers said, you don't always

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Speaker 25: believe some of the results, you don't believe what happens

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Speaker 25: with referees, and.

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Speaker 1: It's just made it very cloudy, and it's made the.

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Speaker 25: All of sports look weird and strange because as we

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01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 25: can see, at least one person now that I know

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Speaker 25: what we're talking about, somebody got banned because of betting.

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Speaker 1: Right because it's allowed, it just makes it for all

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Speaker 1: of us.

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Speaker 25: It's enabled a certain behavior that we knew outside of

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Speaker 25: sports when it wasn't loud. We do there certain things

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Speaker 25: are going on because it's mentioned like and goodfellas about

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01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 25: you know, the college betting and you know the sports stuff.

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Speaker 25: So things have happened in the past before it was legal.

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01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 25: Now that it's legal, it's the college have said that

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01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 25: how you know sports betting, that sports gets money from

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Speaker 25: the various sports betting businesses.

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Speaker 26: So it's just made it very bad.

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Speaker 25: It just made it weird and you can't trust a

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Speaker 25: lot of things.

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Speaker 2: In a sense, it's put the gun on the murderer's hand.

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Speaker 3: For lack of a better, For lack of a better analogy,

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Speaker 3: squeeze one more call in here a VT in Dallas,

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Speaker 3: Thanks for checking in tonight.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 16: My thoughts?

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Speaker 27: Party are this the sports gamblers, the draft kings of

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01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 27: the world. It's not hurting the sport because they're creating

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Speaker 27: a new market. Kids are really not playing sports like

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Speaker 27: they did when I was growing up. In addition, they

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01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 27: spend their time looking at their phone. So what they're

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Speaker 27: finding is a portable casino with a way to spend

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Speaker 27: their time. And the unfortunate thing is it's not infecting

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 27: the integrity of a game that they don't play.

1524
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: Fair enough. Interesting viewpoint, BT, thanks for checking in.

1525
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 3: So we've sort of completed an our were decidedly the

1526
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 3: connotation of legalized sports betting has taken its toll on

1527
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 3: perhaps the imagery, the.

1528
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 2: Optics are.

1529
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 3: As Mark put it, there's perhaps it's cloudy now in

1530
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 3: terms of if there's a bad call by a referee,

1531
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 3: whether or not it's warranted, does it perhaps call into

1532
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 3: question the potential integrity the outcome of the game. Now,

1533
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 3: I'm of the belief is there are so many checks

1534
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: and balances. I absolutely believe nothing's fixed. I know too

1535
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 3: much and I can't see that as being the case.

1536
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 3: And let's be honest here, the system worked or John

1537
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 3: tay Porter would not have been caught and the sports

1538
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 3: books were the watch dogs. And let's also make no mistake.

1539
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: I truly believe that the NBA sits spending it for life.

1540
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 3: It's completely about the money and the optics and the imagery,

1541
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 3: not the morality. Sports betting is here to stay. People

1542
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 3: enjoy it and I will tell you this, I don't

1543
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 3: think it's going anywhere, but as Kevin Putt, they're gonna

1544
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 3: be hiccups, They're gonna be growing paints. There's gonna be

1545
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 3: someone who stubbed their toe and pay a severe price

1546
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 3: coming up. Well, Caitlin Clark straftedumber one. Overall, what's next?

1547
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,120
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1548
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

1549
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1557
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 3: Clark and what's next in addition to her eight figure

1558
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 3: shoe deal, Shay, you didn't get a chance to weigh in.

1559
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 2: You were busy.

1560
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 12: What do you do?

1561
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 2: You have some thoughts on whether or not what is

1562
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: taking place in.

1563
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 3: The last six years and the last two years is

1564
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 3: starting to hurt sports or is legalized gambling helping sports.

1565
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 26: Yeah, I mean, so I love sports betting only when

1566
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:57,839
Speaker 26: I go to the game. I'm not a big sports

1567
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 26: better when it really just comes to just watching the game.

1568
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 26: I mean, I don't get me wrong. I love doing

1569
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 26: March Madness, and I love doing fantasy, and I love

1570
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 26: all that. But when it comes to just betting on

1571
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 26: games and prop betting, it's not something I'm really necessarily

1572
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 26: addicted to, but it's something that definitely takes away from

1573
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 26: the sport. There's this guy at ASU. His name was

1574
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 26: Headache Smith. I don't know if the story I.

1575
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: Know the whole believe me, I know the story.

1576
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 26: God, So this is that. Yes, this is probably the

1577
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 26: original kind of story of someone got.

1578
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: In a real trouble shaven points go ahead.

1579
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1580
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 26: Yeah, So he was going to be the number one pick.

1581
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 26: Everyone was basically saying this guy was going to be

1582
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 26: the number one pick. He was a point guard for ASU.

1583
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 26: I think this was in the eighties, and this guy,

1584
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 26: he was insane. He was literally the only reason ASU

1585
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 26: was a good team at the time. He was the

1586
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 26: only reason we're going far in teams. He was the

1587
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 26: reason we're winning games. So this this book, this Bookie

1588
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 26: comes up to him, and he's like, hey, I'll give

1589
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 26: you ten thousand dollars if you basically what a spread is.

1590
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 26: Do you understand what I know? Bernie, you know what

1591
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 26: a spread is. But I'll explain you're.

1592
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 3: Going to continue the story about I'll jump in and

1593
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 3: say you're laying ten points tonight. You don't have to

1594
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 3: lose the game. Just don't win by more than ten.

1595
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 3: Win by six or seven or eight, but don't win

1596
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: by more than ten. That way you can still win

1597
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 3: the game.

1598
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 26: But I can catch for bet go ahead exactly so easy.

1599
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: He does it.

1600
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 26: He makes ten thousand dollars. So then he starts doing

1601
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 26: that maybe three times, and then he gets a teammate.

1602
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 26: I forgot the teammates same and a teammate gets on

1603
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 26: and he starts doing it with the teammate. So this guy,

1604
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 26: this bookie, makes a million dollars. This bookie was going

1605
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 26: off and betting tons of money in Vegas on these games,

1606
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 26: knowing I have a sure bet here. So he says,

1607
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 26: I'm done. I'm not going to do this anymore. Headich Smith,

1608
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 26: on the other hand, said I'm not done and goes to.

1609
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: A love that crazy.

1610
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 2: They were like in the clear go ahead.

1611
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 26: Exactly, they were in the clear. He goes to a

1612
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 26: local bookie at ASU, some frat kid who was probably

1613
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 26: doing well, god knows what drugs at the time, and

1614
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 26: guess what, he starts doing the same thing with this book.

1615
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 26: He's saying, we can bet on ourselves. But the bookie

1616
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 26: tells the entire school about.

1617
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 2: This basically, and remember the book, he was up like

1618
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: a million dollars or something.

1619
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 26: Literally, and all a bunch of random high school frat

1620
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,799
Speaker 26: kids are betting on this and the line is going crazy.

1621
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 26: This is crazy, right, So then this there's a there's

1622
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 26: a show on Netflix or Hulu, I don't know it

1623
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 26: basically tells us.

1624
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 2: High they've done a feature. Yep, they have, but no, so.

1625
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 26: Basically they get caught the FBI, the FEDS get involved.

1626
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 26: He gets caught. So this guy had like headache, was

1627
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 26: buying cars, going out tons of parties Vegas and all

1628
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 26: this stuff. They got caught and then he none of it,

1629
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 26: went to the NBA, and then now he's just yeah,

1630
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 26: you can look him up right now, he's alive.

1631
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, it's great stuff. And because you

1632
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 3: went to ASU, you know all about it. It's not

1633
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 3: a story that's gotten the widespread report reportage like the

1634
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: Tim Donnie thing did. I'm glad you told the story.

1635
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why. Because now that legalized sports betting

1636
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 3: is prevalent, and there are plenty of watchdogs, including Matt

1637
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 3: Holt who's been on my show US Integrity, who they've got,

1638
01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 3: you know, contracts with all the major conferences in college

1639
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 3: and NBA and professional teams. The odd betting patterns would

1640
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 3: have been recognized and there would have been alerts, and

1641
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 3: I think they would have cut this off at the past.

1642
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 3: But be that as it may. Again, this kid, you know,

1643
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 3: he he ruined his life. Basically he would have gone

1644
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 3: to the NBA and the part of the story you

1645
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 3: got to And this is the thing I talked about

1646
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 3: this about an hour and a half ago. This this

1647
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 3: merely underscores the incredibly powerful Atlaura sports betting, even for

1648
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:45,719
Speaker 3: people who've made a lot of money, even for athletes

1649
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 3: who are going to make a lot of money. And

1650
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 3: even this bookie his shorts aren't clean either. The guy,

1651
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 3: I think he basically have cleared a million dollars and

1652
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 3: said we're good, and then they didn't know one to quit.

1653
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 3: It's like the guy has one more drink and gets

1654
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 3: in the car and you know, ruins his life. So

1655
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 3: good stuff, Shay. I'm glad you told that story. And

1656
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 3: you know, I think people should google it. It's a

1657
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 3: it's a cautionary tale. Well, I don't know how much

1658
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,479
Speaker 3: that the handle on the w n b A has been.

1659
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 3: It's believe me, if you put up a number of

1660
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 3: people are going to bet it. But the NFL is

1661
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 3: still king in college basketball next and you know, maybe

1662
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,839
Speaker 3: the first day of the Masters, there's some there's some events.

1663
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 3: But you know, back on a different topic. When players

1664
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 3: are drafted into their leagues like the inn it you know,

1665
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: the NBA or the NFL or the NHL, typically you

1666
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 3: get a few months, many months to acclimate to your

1667
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 3: new city and your new team and your new surroundings,

1668
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: and you get to move in and you know, get

1669
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 3: your phone set up and your cable TV set up,

1670
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 3: and you have months before you see ther regular season action.

1671
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 2: Not the case in the w n b A.

1672
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: Kitlin Clark was drafted number one overall, you know, and

1673
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: Angel Reese was and all these players you've heard of.

1674
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: That's not the case for WNA players. They from the

1675
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: day they're drafted.

1676
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 3: They got a twenty nine day sprint until they actually

1677
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 3: are playing regular season games.

1678
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 2: So they faced a real world win with their.

1679
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 3: New teams and the league's broadcast partners because they've got

1680
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 3: to become familiar with this fresh talent and know what

1681
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: the hell they're talking about when the players take the floor.

1682
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 3: So it's incredible how fast things happen. It was just

1683
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: April seventh, a week ago. Well, be guys, it was

1684
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 3: a Sunday. I guess a Sunday at noon. That was

1685
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 3: the women's National Championship game. Well right after that, eight

1686
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 3: days later, the WNBA draft April twenty eighth, which is

1687
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 3: a week from today. Training camps open. May third, the

1688
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 3: preseason begins, and May fourteenth, the regular season starts. And oh,

1689
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 3: by the way, you probably heard Caitlin Clark is on

1690
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 3: the verge of inking a new shoe contract which will

1691
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,200
Speaker 3: be worth eight figures I believe north of ten million

1692
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: dollars if you're scoring at home. But now the drama

1693
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 3: is just starting because you're gonna have Caitlin Clark in

1694
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 3: the eye of the storm as the Indiana fever. Will

1695
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 3: you know, They've they've scheduled some great matchups so there

1696
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 3: are four different broadcast.

1697
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 2: Partners that you will be able to watch the w

1698
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: NBA on this year and bet on.

1699
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 3: It Disney, Amazon, I An NBA TV, and I think

1700
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,759
Speaker 3: the broadcasters clearly are going to have to familiarize themselves

1701
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 3: with Kitlin Clark and there's no doubt there'll be prop

1702
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 3: bets on her points, assists, rebounds, that kind of stuff

1703
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 3: in addition to the you know, the game outcome itself

1704
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 3: that is going to, believe me, contribute to what the

1705
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 3: record viewership. I think the WNBA is looking to, you know,

1706
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 3: get to this year right much like March Madness, Well,

1707
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,599
Speaker 3: you know, does it translate to the professional ranks.

1708
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out this year.

1709
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 18: Now.

1710
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 3: I do know this if you look at the ticket

1711
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: offices and here in Las Vegas on July second, the

1712
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: second time the Indiana Fever will play the Las Vegas

1713
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 3: Aces is the two time defending champion Las Vegas Aces.

1714
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: The game has been moved.

1715
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 3: From Micheloblight Arena or Ultra michelob Ultra Arena at Manley Bay,

1716
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 3: where I think they see about seven eight thousand, to

1717
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 3: T Mobile Arena where the Golden Knights play, where the

1718
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 3: NBA had their playing tournament, right, but beyond that, watch

1719
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 3: for the advertisements. Okay, not just tickets but networks. Caitlin

1720
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 3: Clark's second and third games in the league will be

1721
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 3: on May sixteenth and eighteenth. They'll be against Sabrina Ayanascu

1722
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,440
Speaker 3: at the New York Liberty. They were the NBA WNBA

1723
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 3: Finals runners up last year, so they'll play back to

1724
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 3: back games. And on May twenty fourth and twenty fifth,

1725
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 3: you're going to have another back to back situation with

1726
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 3: the Fever visits. They'll visit the Los Angeles Sparks, who

1727
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 3: use the number two pick to protake Cameron Brink, and

1728
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 3: then the defending Las Vegas Aces for the first time

1729
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 3: here on May twenty fifth. That game will be played

1730
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 3: at michelob Ultra Arena. But I gotta tell you, and

1731
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,799
Speaker 3: by the way, on June first, Indiana will face Chicago

1732
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 3: in the first game of the Commissioner's Cup, which is

1733
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,839
Speaker 3: going to be an offshoot sort of the NBA playing tournament.

1734
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 3: The winner that it's going to award five thousand try

1735
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 3: that again in English, five hundred thousand dollars to the

1736
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: winning team. Now, in that matchup, Caitlin Clark is going

1737
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 3: to face two hover old collegiate rivals Angel Reese and Cardoso,

1738
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 3: and that right there is going to put butts in seats,

1739
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 3: and it's going to cost people to watch. And I

1740
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 3: will just about guarantee you people will also bet on it.

1741
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 3: Why because they can and it will. It will certainly,

1742
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 3: you know, enhance the viewing participation of the sporting event.

1743
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: Itself coming up.

1744
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 3: There's a there's a real argument, and I'm going to

1745
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 3: cover this much more heavily on my Saturday night show.

1746
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 3: We're gonna get much more heavily into the NBA playoffs,

1747
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 3: much more heavily into the NFL Draft and various prospects.

1748
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 3: And we're also going to get much more heavily into

1749
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:24,719
Speaker 3: the Major League Baseball pitching epidemic and the finger pointing

1750
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 3: between Major League Baseball and the players Union. This is real,

1751
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,640
Speaker 3: sixty four of the top throwers in terms of the

1752
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 3: average Major league fastball right now in baseball, it's just

1753
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 3: under ninety five miles an hour. Three years ago was

1754
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: ninety one, and twenty years ago is eighty eight. And

1755
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 3: you know, you look at a guy like Greg Maddocks,

1756
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 3: who never threw over eighty five, I know, trouble getting

1757
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 3: natters out. There's a different mentality. Now there's a different philosophy,

1758
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 3: and it's hurting pitchers. And when you line up all

1759
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 3: the hardest throwers in the game, and now there's you know,

1760
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,719
Speaker 3: basically eleven pitchers on every roster. So there's three hundred

1761
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 3: and thirty pitchers, but the top twenty percent, the top

1762
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 3: sixty four pitchers who throw the hardest, thirty one of

1763
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 3: them have had Tommy John surgery. You can't tell me

1764
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 3: that that's not a problem. I'll tease it coming up

1765
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 3: as to what's going on and give you some names

1766
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,280
Speaker 3: and facts and figures that will cause you to scratch

1767
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 3: your head. But I want to remind everybody be sure

1768
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 3: to catch Fox Sports Radio's Draft Night live throughout the

1769
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 3: first round of the Draft this Thursday, beginning at eight

1770
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 3: pm Eastern, presented by Express Pros, the official employment agency

1771
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 3: of Fox Sports Radio's Draft coverage insider Jay Glaser, former

1772
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 3: Cardinals GM Steve Kaim, college Football Hall of Famer and

1773
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 3: fellow Fox Sports Radio teammate LaVar Arrington, and Big Noon.

1774
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: Kickoff Rob Stone.

1775
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 3: They will have picked by predictions and reactions to every

1776
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 3: first round pick that's this Thursday Night eight pm Eastern

1777
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 3: throughout the entire first round of the Draft right here

1778
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,759
Speaker 3: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app presented

1779
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 3: by Express Pros.

1780
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle. We are company live.

1781
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 3: From Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, tarret dot com Studios.

1782
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:09,759
Speaker 3: Keep it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie

1783
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 3: Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

1784
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 2: They're back on The.

1785
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 3: Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio Comedy Live from me

1786
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:23,240
Speaker 3: Tarac dot com Studios here in Las Vegas. We will

1787
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 3: take you up to two am Pacific tonight five am Eastern.

1788
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 3: Still plenty of things to get to. You know, there's

1789
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 3: a real situation happening in Major League Baseball, and it's

1790
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 3: gotten coverage and probably.

1791
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: Deserves a lot more coverage.

1792
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,560
Speaker 3: I guess you could call it an elbow epidemic, and

1793
01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:52,799
Speaker 3: I think it's becoming very worrisome because too many Marquee players,

1794
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 3: too many Marquis pitchers, are finding themselves injured early in

1795
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 3: the season, devastating injuries. It'll keep you out for an

1796
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 3: entire year. I think it's very worrisome. I think it

1797
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 3: started to peak last season when you had a two

1798
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five pitchers in professional Baseball had Tommy

1799
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 3: John surgery.

1800
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 2: To compare that to five years prior when you had.

1801
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 3: I think one hundred and ninety, which is still a lot,

1802
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 3: but imagine that going from one hundred and ninety to

1803
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy five. These are all pitchers who

1804
01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 3: had Tommy John surgery. Now Atlanta's ace right hander this

1805
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 3: past week Spencer Strider where he went down on Sunday,

1806
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 3: And this is just two starts into the season. Atlanta

1807
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:50,719
Speaker 3: has designs on winning the World Series. You can't lose

1808
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 3: players like that.

1809
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 2: We're not even out of April yet.

1810
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 3: He's a former sty young pitcher with cleve wn a

1811
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 3: triple Crown Era title winner, two time All Star Gold

1812
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 3: Glove winner, and he took the same hit when his

1813
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 3: elbow blew up after two starts this season, and he'd

1814
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 3: already struck out of season high twenty batters. And therein,

1815
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 3: I think lies the conundrum here. Therein lies the culprit.

1816
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 3: Baseball seems to want hard throwers and strikeout pictures, heart

1817
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 3: throwers and strikeout pittures, wash repeat rints, and you cannot

1818
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 3: tell me that it is not taking its toll.

1819
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 2: One of the main.

1820
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 3: Catalysts behind Tommy John syndrome. Well, it's simple, Okay, the

1821
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 3: harder you throw, the more stress you're going to impose

1822
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 3: on well, your elbow, your arm. I mean, these are

1823
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,320
Speaker 3: human beings you're dealing with, not robots. For crying out loud,

1824
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:01,120
Speaker 3: the average major league fastball velocity has jumped from ninety

1825
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 3: one miles an hour several years ago now to just

1826
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 3: under ninety five miles an hour. And when you consider

1827
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 3: there are other aces in Major League Baseball staff, aces

1828
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 3: that are coming apart, like a chief suit.

1829
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 2: Well, let's look at this list. It's a name of

1830
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 2: who's who of pitchers. Who are you know who have.

1831
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 3: Had quite I would consider quite the major league highlights,

1832
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 3: Garrett Cole, Justin Verlander, Sandy Alkintara, just to name a few. Now,

1833
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 3: Spencer Strider put it best when he said, the front

1834
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 3: offices are paying for strikeouts.

1835
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 2: If you want to get the big contract, if you.

1836
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 3: Want to get the you know, the notoriety, Well you

1837
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 3: want the big paycheck, strike strike people out. The max

1838
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 3: velocity craze though it's ruining pictures at a clip that

1839
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 3: we've never seen before. Because I mentioned about ten minutes ago,

1840
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 3: it's the very reason why thirty one of the sixty

1841
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 3: four hardest throwers in the league last season had undergone

1842
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,599
Speaker 3: Tommy John surgery at some point in their careers. Something,

1843
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 3: something really has to be done. And the truth of

1844
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 3: the matter is someone who played the game. Pitching is

1845
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 3: about disrupting hitters, timing, changing speeds, locating, having command to

1846
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 3: multiple pitches is really what gets hitters out. And if

1847
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,640
Speaker 3: you can pitch to contact, let your defense you do

1848
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:33,800
Speaker 3: their job. If you throw strikes, you throw strikes. I

1849
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 3: gotta tell you, hitters make outs seventy five percent of

1850
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 3: the time. I mean the cumulative batty garage of Major

1851
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 3: League baseballs under two fifty throw strikes.

1852
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 2: You don't have to strike. By the way, when you

1853
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,679
Speaker 2: strike guys out, you throw way more pitches.

1854
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 3: You got to throw a minimum with three pitches to

1855
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 3: every hitter if you're going to strike people out. But

1856
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 3: this is where the money goes to the herd throwers,

1857
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 3: and they attract attention. But I might remind you, and

1858
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 3: we have a gentleman who still lives here right in

1859
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:08,839
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. He's from Las Vegas. He just celebrated a birthday,

1860
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 3: I believe this past week. I want to say it

1861
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 3: was April fourteenth. I'm not sure. I bet you've heard

1862
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 3: of Greg Maddox. That would be a fair assumption, right, Well,

1863
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 3: Greg Maddox, I don't think ever threw more than eighty

1864
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 3: five miles an hour. Ever, he had multiple arm angles.

1865
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: He threw multiple array of pitches, throw them for strikes

1866
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 3: and as living proof that you don't need to throw

1867
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 3: ninety eight miles an hour to get major league hitters out.

1868
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 3: And believe me, I know people say, well, it's a

1869
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 3: different eraw No, No, Greg Maddox will still get hitters

1870
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 3: out today, based on his guile, based on his command,

1871
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 3: his ability to change speeds, locate all those things. Well,

1872
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 3: he did win one World Series in nineteen ninety five.

1873
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,719
Speaker 3: Even though he was part of those great Braves teams

1874
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 3: that would manage to win the Division every year. Bobby

1875
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: Cox couldn't win the World Series, but they had great

1876
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,680
Speaker 3: success okay with Smoltzen Glavin and Maddox.

1877
01:37:07,400 --> 01:37:08,200
Speaker 2: Was the leader of the pack.

1878
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 3: Greg Maddox and his eighty five mile an hour fastball,

1879
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 3: which is a full ten miles slower than the average

1880
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 3: fastball today's major leagues won the cy Young four times

1881
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 3: in the National League, won the ERA title four times.

1882
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 3: In the National League, Greg Maddox was named an All

1883
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 3: Star eight times. Well, by the way, did a pretty

1884
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:32,879
Speaker 3: good job in feeling his position. Eighteen times. Greg Maddox

1885
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 3: won the goal Glove. That's the most, the most in

1886
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball history for any pitcher. You know, I

1887
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 3: don't know if we'll ever see a three hundred game

1888
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 3: winner again.

1889
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 2: We may or we may not. It's up to debate.

1890
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 3: Guess how many games Greg Maddox won with his eighty

1891
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 3: five mile hour fastball went a total of three hundred

1892
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,280
Speaker 3: and fifty five games. Three hundred and fifty five games.

1893
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:01,519
Speaker 3: So if you broke into major league baseball at age

1894
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:05,920
Speaker 3: twenty one and won twenty games seventeen years in a row,

1895
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 3: now you're forty one, you're still fifteen games short of

1896
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 3: winning three hundred and fifty five games. That's if you

1897
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 3: won twenty games seventeen years in a row, you'd still

1898
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 3: be fifteen games behind Greg Maddocks in terms of wins.

1899
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 3: He's eighth all time in Major League baseball history. By

1900
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 3: the way, his lifetime yeare a three point one six

1901
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,599
Speaker 3: And you tell me you got to throw that hard.

1902
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:33,280
Speaker 2: Maddox.

1903
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 3: Also, I just mentioned because of his ability full hitters

1904
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 3: in his career accumulated three thousand, three hundred and seventy

1905
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 3: one strikeouts. We're not talking about Nolan Ryan here or

1906
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 3: Randy Johnson or Justin Verlander or some of these guys

1907
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:51,720
Speaker 3: can touch one hundred. We're talking about Greg Mannix number three,

1908
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 3: more than eighty five miles an hour. Those three thousand,

1909
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 3: three hundred and seventy one strikeouts are good for tenth

1910
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 3: place in midj League baseball history. Finally, and this blows

1911
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:09,439
Speaker 3: you away, he threw one hundred and nine complete games

1912
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,760
Speaker 3: in his career. This day and age pitcher gets the

1913
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 3: fifth inning, it's considered a quality start. Boy, how times

1914
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 3: have changed. And as part of his one hundred and

1915
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,639
Speaker 3: nine complete games. As part of this resume which includes

1916
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,559
Speaker 3: winning the Cy Young four times, the ERA title four times,

1917
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 3: and All Star eight times, Golden Glover eighteen times, three

1918
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty five wins, three point one six lifetime EIRA,

1919
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 3: three hundred and seventy one strikeouts, one hundred and nine

1920
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 3: complete games, Greg Maddox also threw thirty five shutouts. Now

1921
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 3: do you have Greg Maddox on your pitcher, Mount Rushmore,

1922
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,720
Speaker 3: I certainly don't know. Why you wouldn't. And oh, by

1923
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 3: the way, you can't accumulate all of those gaudy stats

1924
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:52,960
Speaker 3: without longevity, and you can't have longevity without staying healthy.

1925
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 3: Major League Baseball needs to take a look in the mirror.

1926
01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 3: It's purely as simple as that. Your top twenty percent

1927
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 3: of hard throwers, sixty four pitchers, thirty one of them

1928
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 3: have had Tommy John surgery. Two hundred and seventy five

1929
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,840
Speaker 3: pitchers in the last year professional baseball have had Tommy

1930
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 3: John surgery, up from one hundred and ninety five years ago.

1931
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,560
Speaker 3: We clearly have an issue, and I genuinely believe that

1932
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 3: people Major League Baseball has to really look in the

1933
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,519
Speaker 3: mirror if they want to continue to sell tickets and

1934
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:29,439
Speaker 3: ask themselves scouts, player personnel directors, pitching coaches, do you

1935
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 3: really need to throw so hard your shoulder is going

1936
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 3: to fall off to win games? Just ask Greg Maddox.

1937
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 3: Coming up, Chris profests World of Soccer. Firt's go back

1938
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 3: to our guy, Kevin Figures, who never has a sore arm.

1939
01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:43,759
Speaker 7: Thanks, Bernie.

1940
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 11: Will start with the the NBA as the sixteen team

1941
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 11: NBA playoff field is a set in stone after the

1942
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 11: playing games from Friday Night. Lazai and Williamson not available

1943
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 11: in the series, most likely for the New Orleans Pelicans,

1944
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Speaker 11: Yet they do advance to the NBA Playoffs as the

1945
01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 11: eighth seed in the Western Conference. It will take on

1946
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,640
Speaker 11: Oklahoma City in the first round. One oh five to

1947
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 11: ninety eight was a final score as the Pelicans defeated

1948
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,760
Speaker 11: the Kings in the playing game on Friday Night out East,

1949
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 11: the Heast won their playing matchup both for Chicago won

1950
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 11: twelve to ninety one despite not.

1951
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 1: Having Jimmy Butler in the lineup.

1952
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Speaker 11: He won't be available for their first round matchup against

1953
01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 11: Boston as well as he recovers from an mcl injury.

1954
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 11: In Major League Baseball, the Mets have won five in

1955
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 11: a row. They defeated the Dodgers in Los Angeles nine

1956
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 11: to four. Francisco Lindor with the home run there. Arizona

1957
01:41:27,280 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 11: roughed up Blake Snell and the Giants seventeen to one.

1958
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,680
Speaker 11: Chris Sales struck out seven, while Travis d Rnau hit

1959
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 11: three home runs for the Braves. They defeated the Rangers

1960
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 11: eight to three. Juan Sota a three run home run

1961
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 11: for the Yankees five to three. The final there over

1962
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,799
Speaker 11: Tampa Bay. Alec Bohm went deep twice for the Phillies

1963
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,000
Speaker 11: as they shout out the White Sox seven nothing and

1964
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 11: Golf Kalamarcawa a four way tie for first place at

1965
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 11: the RBC Invitational through two rounds and Scotti Scheffler first

1966
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 11: four strokes back at eight under.

1967
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Speaker 1: All right, back to Bertie Fredo.

1968
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 3: Interesting about Scotty Scheffler, Kevin, I'm going to talk about

1969
01:41:58,360 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 3: this Saturday night. He's dominating off in a way actually

1970
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 3: that people I'm not sure they have really ascertained yet.

1971
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 3: All Right, we covered all here on the Bernie Frattle Show,

1972
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 3: and we're inching closer to the Paris Olympics, when soccer

1973
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 3: will once again be on the world stage.

1974
01:42:13,280 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 2: But irrespective of whether or not it's.

1975
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 3: In season, on a season, on the field or off

1976
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 3: the field, there's always plenty of news in the sports

1977
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 3: they call football.

1978
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,000
Speaker 2: That's why we bring you Christophetts World of.

1979
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 28: Soccer, the greatest Gools, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

1980
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 6: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

1981
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Speaker 6: We begin tonight on the world of soccer. Bernie with

1982
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:50,759
Speaker 6: our friends in Wrexham. That is right, the club Wrexham

1983
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 6: in Wales. The Stars of FX is welcome to Rexham.

1984
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,679
Speaker 6: The club owned by Rob mclhenny and Ryan Reynolds, has

1985
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 6: once again, the second year in a row, found promotion

1986
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 6: to the next league. They clinched it here they had

1987
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:09,560
Speaker 6: been in the National League last year, moved up to

1988
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:14,719
Speaker 6: the English Football League Level two, and here this past week,

1989
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:16,400
Speaker 6: with how the rest of the league played out and

1990
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 6: a dominating six NIERL win over Forrest Green, they have

1991
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 6: secured promotion third in League two and they were moving

1992
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 6: up to EFL League One. Let's recap you on how

1993
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 6: that works. So there is three levels the EFL before

1994
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 6: the Premier League. The Premier League is the top of

1995
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 6: the English table structure the ladder. If you will, League

1996
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 6: two goes to League one. League one then goes to

1997
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 6: the Championship and if you win and are promoted from

1998
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 6: the EFL Championship, you are in the Premier League. Now

1999
01:43:48,640 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 6: let's not count those chickens just yet. It's a long

2000
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 6: way to go, but it is once. It is remarkable

2001
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 6: for a club that was scraping the barrel in the

2002
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 6: National League, for a club that was in so much

2003
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:02,960
Speaker 6: much peril before this whole little experiment began with the

2004
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 6: American Star investors and owners and this reality TV show

2005
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 6: and everything all coming together and two years running, Rexham

2006
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 6: have secured their promotion a dream come true. Now this

2007
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 6: time they won't be coming with hardware going up to

2008
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 6: League One. They actually did not win the EFL League Two.

2009
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:29,919
Speaker 6: That would be signed by the name of Stockport County,

2010
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 6: who sealed their title with a win five to two

2011
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 6: over Notts County back on this past Tuesday. Still in

2012
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 6: two years suddenly rumping up to the English Football's third

2013
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 6: tier of play. Not a whole hell of that of

2014
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,880
Speaker 6: a return to glory for a club that ages and

2015
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 6: ages ago used to have so much that they could

2016
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 6: feel proud about and this one though, they will feel proud.

2017
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 6: Fans over there long long suffering and waiting for a return.

2018
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 6: It's one of these things where I keep watching the

2019
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 6: TV show and keep wondering if the good times can

2020
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 6: keep rolling. Moving up to League One puts them closer

2021
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 6: and closer to the big boys seats in the Championship

2022
01:45:11,640 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 6: where teams do come and go from the Premier League

2023
01:45:14,240 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 6: quite often, but in the top flights, Bernie, we have

2024
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 6: on Sunday, the last el Classico of the La Liga

2025
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 6: schedule coming up here Barcelona Real Madrid in Barnabo Stadium

2026
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 6: here in Madrid, it is a tale of two clubs

2027
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:34,680
Speaker 6: once again. We always like to check in on Barcelona

2028
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 6: and Real Madrid, the hottest rivalry in sports all across

2029
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 6: the world, two of the biggest clubs in the world,

2030
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 6: and once again a bit of a familiar story as

2031
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 6: we check in and find that Barcelona is reeling in

2032
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 6: spite of some promise that they were hoping to fix

2033
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 6: upon here in the twenty twenty three to twenty twenty

2034
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 6: four season. It looking with about eight points in about

2035
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 6: a month to go, it would take a miracle for

2036
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 6: them to catch up with longtime rivals Real Madrid, who

2037
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 6: once again sit atop the Spanish table. But the fortunes

2038
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 6: and misfortunes of each club don't really stop there. Barcelona's

2039
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 6: manager Zavi Hernandez leaving a high profile job at Barcelona

2040
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 6: amid amid frustration, burnout, and most of all, just blaming

2041
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 6: fans and supporters for unrealistic expectations as the Barcelona crown

2042
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 6: starts to turn ugly, also getting slapped with a ban

2043
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 6: for racism after fans were throwing up Nazi salutes during

2044
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:41,639
Speaker 6: a Champions League match against Paris Saint Germain. And sure,

2045
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 6: while we've got that Champions League wound open, let's talk

2046
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 6: about it. Barcelona went into the second leg of the

2047
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 6: Champions League against Paris Saint Germain up one goal, up

2048
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 6: one goal from the first match, and proceeded to lose

2049
01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 6: one four at home in Barcelona, allowing Paris Saint Germain

2050
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,720
Speaker 6: and Killing Embappe to advance six ' four to the

2051
01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 6: UEFA Semi Finals, where they will take on Borussia Dortmund. Meanwhile,

2052
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 6: Real Madrid, by contrast, talking about the fortunes of that

2053
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 6: club right now, they were lucky and they moved past

2054
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:27,560
Speaker 6: Manchester City on penalty kicks after the second leg of

2055
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 6: the aggregate was tied. And you know, expected to be

2056
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 6: the home here of Killing Embape when he leaves Paris

2057
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 6: Saint Germain at the end of the Sea of the

2058
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 6: French season. And on top of that, talk about a

2059
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 6: star in Jude Bellingham that they have they and that's

2060
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 6: not even the stop of their embarrassment of riches, but

2061
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 6: Bellingham might be the greatest jewel they have waiting to

2062
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 6: pair with Killing Embappe, a man who in spite of

2063
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 6: some injuries, just seems unstoppable as he just continues to

2064
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 6: score goal after goal after goal in La Liga and

2065
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,360
Speaker 6: in the Champions League. It's a rivalry that continues to

2066
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 6: fascinate us, this l Classico. It's a rivalry between two

2067
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 6: clubs that have always boasted the two some of the

2068
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 6: best stars in the world, and yet Barcelona seems to

2069
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:24,760
Speaker 6: be permanently a step behind, from having to finally add

2070
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,840
Speaker 6: sponsors to the start to the front of their jerseys,

2071
01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 6: to various financial woes, to struggling and struggling to sign

2072
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 6: the kind of caliber players that Real Madrid gets. Meanwhile,

2073
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 6: Real Ridrid seems to just get richer and richer, stronger

2074
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 6: and stronger as the years go by. They'll be taking

2075
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 6: on Bayern Munich in the semi finals of the Champions

2076
01:48:48,479 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 6: League and they could be looking at another set of

2077
01:48:51,920 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 6: Champions League and La Liga crowns if they can get

2078
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 6: this home. It's something that I feel like in Spain

2079
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,120
Speaker 6: is starting to get a little long in the tooth

2080
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 6: and we'll see if the Barcelona can salvage any kind

2081
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 6: of pride, anything at all. It all has to start

2082
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:11,679
Speaker 6: here on Sunday and they have to win l Classic.

2083
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:14,240
Speaker 6: That's for us in the world of soccer, Bernie, We're

2084
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 6: coming down to the home stretches about a month ago

2085
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,040
Speaker 6: in many of the domestics out there. Very exciting time,

2086
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 6: very exciting time in the Champions League and the Olympics

2087
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 6: are coming up soon and we will have plenty more

2088
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 6: to talk to about from there.

2089
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 1: Until that time, this has been the world of soccer.

2090
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 3: I remember about two years ago when Chris reported that

2091
01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 3: Ryan Reynolds, the actor, was part of an ownership group

2092
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 3: and now unreal. Not only have they resurrected that franchise,

2093
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:48,800
Speaker 3: you know, they have relegation in soccer and teams that

2094
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 3: don't do well are demoted and teams that do well

2095
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:54,880
Speaker 3: are promoted. And this Wrexham team is it's basically a

2096
01:49:55,439 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 3: Disney movie script literally, with how much success they've had

2097
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:03,680
Speaker 3: and the popularity that they brought to that city. They

2098
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,960
Speaker 3: played in a dilapidated old stadium. You have to follow

2099
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 3: the story to believe it. But yeah, never never fails,

2100
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 3: Always plenty of action in the world of soccer. And

2101
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:19,760
Speaker 3: again Paris, well it's mid July and the Olympics will

2102
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:22,640
Speaker 3: be here and you will once again see soccer on

2103
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:25,719
Speaker 3: the world stage. Coming up, we wrap up the show,

2104
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 3: and if you recall Friday Nights midnight hour last week,

2105
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 3: we talked a lot about the OJ Simpson situation and

2106
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 3: what were your thoughts when you heard he passed. One

2107
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,879
Speaker 3: of the callers mentioned that he thought that OJ Simpson

2108
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:49,920
Speaker 3: was a candidate for CTE research. They should take his

2109
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 3: brain and research whether or not he suffered from CTE. Well, well,

2110
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 3: the executor of OJ Simpson's estate and his attorney, Malcolm Laverne,

2111
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,799
Speaker 3: has addressed that issue, and you might find it interesting

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01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:11,200
Speaker 3: his official position on this whole CTE thing.

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Speaker 2: I'll sure that coming up.

2114
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Speaker 3: I'm Bernie FRADDLEI Kelly live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

2115
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Speaker 3: Tireract dot com studios.

2116
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 2: Don't go away. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show

2117
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie

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01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 3: Frattle Show. We are coming to you live from the

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirac dot com studios. And

2121
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:33,960
Speaker 3: before I go any further this evening, I would like

2122
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 3: to thank my broadcast team from Los Angeles. They've been

2123
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 3: with me since eleven pm Pacific. Mark Ramsey, our technical producer,

2124
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 3: turning all the dills, keeping us scooed together. Of course,

2125
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 3: Kevin figures Molly whopping all the updates and say Morgan

2126
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 3: guard double duty, taking all the calls and.

2127
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:56,679
Speaker 2: All that good stuff.

2128
01:51:56,760 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 3: And I'm glad he brought up the store about Headache Smith,

2129
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 3: who is a point guard for Arizona State.

2130
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 2: A good portion of our show tonight we devoted to

2131
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 2: whether or not the.

2132
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 3: Advent of legalized sports betting is hurting sports or helping sports,

2133
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:15,880
Speaker 3: especially in light of the John ty Porter situation. But

2134
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 3: it's not just that we've had TENFL, ten NFL players

2135
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 3: suspended in the last year. You had the situation with EPA,

2136
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 3: the optics. There an NHL player Jaguars right on the line.

2137
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,680
Speaker 3: I gave multiple examples, and I want, may, I want

2138
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:32,320
Speaker 3: to make it abundantly clear the NFL check that the

2139
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 3: NBA may have suspended John tay Porter for life has

2140
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 3: nothing to do with morality, everything to do with money

2141
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:44,000
Speaker 3: and optics an image, make no mistake. So Shaye told

2142
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 3: a story. Shaye went to Arizona State. They had a

2143
01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 3: player back in the early nineties. His name was Headache Smith.

2144
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:51,920
Speaker 3: His real name was Steven Smith, Stephen Headache Smith. He

2145
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 3: was a point guard for Arizona State University. Two time

2146
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:59,600
Speaker 3: Pac ten player, became involved right in the middle of

2147
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 3: a nineteen ninety four point shaving scandal along with another teammate.

2148
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 3: He was Isaac Burton, who also got drug into that. Basically,

2149
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 3: Headache Smith would bet on his own team and he

2150
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 3: was fixing games and he was receiving about twenty thousand

2151
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 3: bucks a game for shaving points and against Oregon State

2152
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 3: that was the most infamous game. He was finally arrested

2153
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,920
Speaker 3: in the summer in nineteen ninety seven and he did

2154
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 3: plead guilty both him and Isaac Burton to conspiracy charges.

2155
01:53:26,280 --> 01:53:29,920
Speaker 3: They admitted taking bribes to fix four games in nineteen

2156
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Speaker 3: ninety four. He was sentenced to one year in prison.

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Speaker 3: To this day, Headache Smith still holds the Arizona State

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Speaker 3: career records for most three point shots attempted and most

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Speaker 3: three point shots made to this day. Now, I strongly

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Speaker 3: recommend you research this story. He's fifty two years old.

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Speaker 3: He's a cautionary tale. Do I think that level of

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Speaker 3: egregiousness could happen now?

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Speaker 25: No.

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Speaker 3: I think there's too many checks and balances and there's

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Speaker 3: too much to lose, and there's you know, there are

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Speaker 3: too many simposs people know, and this is thirty years ago,

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Speaker 3: so you can argue that the system worked when John

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Speaker 3: tay Porter, you know, was handed down what was handed

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Speaker 3: down to him. But I will tell you that of

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Speaker 3: the eighteen calls we took and the midnight hour tonight

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Speaker 3: and again, the midnight hour is called the midnight hour

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Speaker 3: because from where I sit here in Las Vegas, it's midnight.

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Speaker 3: But also it's a metaphor we talk about impactful events

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Speaker 3: in society. The midnight hours in literature throughout the years

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Speaker 3: has been a metaphor for significant events.

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Speaker 2: But where I'm going with that is there was a.

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Speaker 3: Decided slant towards the fact that the vast majority of

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Speaker 3: the callers think that the legalization of sports betting is

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Speaker 3: having a negative effect on sports in terms of the

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Speaker 3: imagery and the optics and just a general condition and

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Speaker 3: perhaps a cloud or people are more focused now on

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Speaker 3: the points spread and the you know, the individual prop

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Speaker 3: bets and such as opposed to the rivalries and the

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Speaker 3: essence of the competition and of course the you know,

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Speaker 3: the general intensity and storylines behind the game. One caller

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Speaker 3: talked about the bad boys. The Pistons can focused on

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Speaker 3: Dennis Rodman versus Michael Jordan, and that kind of stuff

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Speaker 3: now would be more about the points bread. By the way,

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Speaker 3: betting was very prevalent then, it was just not legal

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Speaker 3: except in Nevada. So make no mistake, this is not

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Speaker 3: a new phenomenon. But now that it's come out of

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Speaker 3: the shadows and into the public limelight, and we're talking

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Speaker 3: about one hundred billion dollar Gary industry, it's more navled,

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Speaker 3: it's it's more mainstream, it's more acceptable. And with that

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Speaker 3: has come as Kevin's figures at growing paints and situations

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Speaker 3: that I that I talked about earlier. It's not just

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Speaker 3: the John tay Porter said, you know ordeal. This past

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Speaker 3: week JB. Bickerstaff, head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers, saying

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Speaker 3: he and his family have been threatened by gamblers, and

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Speaker 3: Tyre's Halliber said he feels like a prop and that

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Speaker 3: his social media.

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Speaker 2: Is dominated by gambling chatter.

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Speaker 3: Right, and then we're just a month, month and a

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Speaker 3: half we removed from the legendary known as the legend

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Speaker 3: known as Ipe Misahara. Right, lost forty million in gambling

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Speaker 3: and Shoheotani's name got drugged through that.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I think I made my point all right.

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Speaker 3: OJ Simpson's lawyer has answered questions about CTE now because

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Speaker 3: of OJ Simpson's actions, and it has been reported in

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Speaker 3: addition to crimes he committed, he exhibited Eurotic behavior. So

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Speaker 3: naturally there have been folks who have wondered if OJ

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Speaker 3: Simpsons suffered from CTE. You're not going to get an

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Speaker 3: answer to that. OJ died at age seventy six, ten

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Speaker 3: days ago, but representative for his estate has told The

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Speaker 3: New York Post that OJ Simpson will be cremated and

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Speaker 3: there is no plan, no plan to donate his brain

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Speaker 3: for research of any kind. This is coming from his

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Speaker 3: attorney and the executor of his state, gentleman named Malcolm Laverne.

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Speaker 3: He said, testing for chronic traumatic insulphilopathy, which is CTE,

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Speaker 3: is quote not happening, not up in here, look elsewhere,

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Speaker 3: he said, quote with everything OJ is wild. But I've

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Speaker 3: been getting calls from medical centers that are doing ct

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Speaker 3: CTE testing and asking me for OJ's brain.

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Speaker 2: That has not happen. And I may consult with his

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Speaker 2: children on it, but I haven't heard anything about it.

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Speaker 2: So just not going to happen. OJ wanted all of

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Speaker 2: his body cremated.

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Speaker 3: For his children to do what they say fit. And

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Speaker 3: by the way, OJ does have four children, and he

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Speaker 3: said he expected all of them to sign off on

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Speaker 3: OJ being cremated. And there is no indication that OJ

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Speaker 3: Simpson's brain will be studied by doctors. So if you

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Speaker 3: are looking for CTE theory as to what MADEJ in South,

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Speaker 3: you ain't gonna get it. I'll be back on these

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Speaker 3: airwaves Saturday night at eleven pm. A lot of good

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Speaker 3: stuff to get to the NBA Playoffs, the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 3: Steve Fenskill join, Mark Medina will join. We'll even talk

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Speaker 3: a little Dion Sanders. So we'll see you tonight at

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Speaker 3: eleven pm. Keep it locked up next to the Fellas,

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio