1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Command this family, we have another special episode of Next 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Man Up. Jalen Holmes, our new defensive lineman, joins the 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: show and talks about his big sack against his former 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: team and a foundation that means the world to him. 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Then for the legend Rick Doc Walker pulls back up 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: to talk about getting wins and that Jaden Daniels miraculous 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: touchdown throw. All that and more right now on Next 8 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: Man Up Commands Family. For our Next Man Up, we 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: had to bring somebody that just joined the team and 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: has had a crazy ride since he's gotten here, already 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: making a name for him. So our new defensive lineman, 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Holmes brother Goodes. See, man, they can take it out. Yea, sir, Man, 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: what an intro to the Burgundy and gold Man last 14 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: Sunday's game. You not only get a sack, but you're 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: a part of one of the greatest memories that a 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: lot of Commanders fans have up until this point. Man, 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: talk about that moment, Man, they're calling it the miracle 18 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: in Maryland, that hell Mary throw that you saw your 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: new quarterback make. Man, what was you going through during 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: that moment? 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I just like you know, before that play 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: even went down, just like something gotta happen, something, something 23 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: has to happen, you know, like we I feel like 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: all week we worked so hard and then even in 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: that game, we played so hard, Like it's no way 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 2: we walking out of here with the l man. You know, 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: it's just I just knew something had to happen. I 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: didn't know what or how or who, but I just 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: knew something had to happen. 30 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: When you see Noah Brown come down with that and 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: you see the rest put their hands up saying it's 32 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: a touchdown, what is the first feeling in far what's 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: the first words you say? 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Man? 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: What's going through your head? 36 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: I don't even think I can say them words on 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: with TV, but it was my first reaction was run 38 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: on the field. 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: Like you know, I went to Ohio State. Would know. 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: We both came in Ohio State together in twenty fourteen, 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: So that's class and one. 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: I was just so happy for him and then just. 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: Like I mean, it didn't even feel real, but it 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: felt real at the same time. 45 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: Man, it was bliss. Man, it was dope. 46 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever been a part of a moment like 47 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: that before you in your NFL career. 48 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: Not in an NFL. No, No, not in an NFL. 49 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: Like I didn't have a moment that in high school, 50 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: but like, was it seventy thousand people like and we 51 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: all just holding our breath and then we all just 52 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: going crazy at the same time. 53 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: Never that was saying, what a moment. 54 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: And you know, we're going to talk more about that, 55 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: but let's let's run it back a little bit, because, 56 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: like I said, you just got here, you two weeks in, 57 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: but you're from Norfolk. This is kind of home for you, right, 58 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Like this is the career for you. Man, What is 59 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: it like being back? You've only been here a couple 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: of weeks. What has it been like being. 61 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 3: Back so far? 62 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 2: It's obviously been so surreal, Like I at first the 63 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 2: first week it was really hard for me to process, 64 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: like just going from that transition from being in New 65 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: York with the Jets and then like one day everything's normal, 66 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: then out of nowhere it's not so Like my body 67 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 2: kind of was like a little bit out of way. 68 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: Just trying to get adjusted everything. 69 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 2: But being here with the commanders and how the staff 70 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: and how these players are it makes it a lot 71 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: easier when people are welcoming and doing whatever they can 72 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: to get you right for the game. So I feel 73 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: like I've been picking stuff up really fast, and that's 74 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 2: just a testament to the coaches and the players in 75 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 2: the room around me just always being there to help me. 76 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: Was it surprising when you got cut by the Jets? 77 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Did you? I gotta mention you didn't see that coming. 78 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't see it. 79 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: Like I It happened kind of like three days, like 80 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: you can kind of see it, like, you know what 81 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm saying, manifesting itself a little bit throughout the week, 82 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: But I still didn't feel like that was gonna happen. 83 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: And even then I thought I was gonna go back, so, 84 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: you know, getting released and then like you have teams 85 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: coming offering and then the Commanders came is like I 86 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: think there's a no brainer, you know, like you know 87 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: what I mean, And talking to DQ and you know, 88 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: talking to Tap, like it just it just made so 89 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: much sense. And then I've heard so many great things 90 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: about DQ, and like, to be honest, everything I've heard 91 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: about him, like actually meeting him, he's like preceeded it. 92 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: Like it's kind of like everything I've heard with been 93 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: an understatement. So it's just really been a blessing in 94 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: this guys, and I'm so glad I'm here. 95 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: And it happened really quick, right Like it seemed like 96 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: one second you were released, next second you're coming to 97 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: the commanders. But that is adversity at some point, right 98 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: Like you said you didn't expect that to happen. You 99 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: kind of felt it, but like you still have to 100 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: deal with it. How was it dealing with that, because 101 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: I mean there's times too, especially as you go through 102 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: your career, that one cut could be your last cut. 103 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: Did you have those kind of feelings in those thoughts? 104 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: I've been cut. 105 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 2: I've been cut up a good amount of times, you know, 106 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: and every time it's happened, I'm not saying I didn't 107 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: see it coming, but it's kind of been a surprise. 108 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: And that's also a lot of good things too, Like 109 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: even in Sack, I had like I've been working on it, 110 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: I've been putting in the ground for I've been manifesting it, 111 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: but like it kind of was a pleasant surprise in 112 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 2: the sense, so like sometimes you have to like step 113 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: back and it's led things allowed things to have it 114 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: and receive it. And I'm doing that more as I 115 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: get comfortable being around these great group of men I'm around. 116 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: But at first it kind of was I wanted so 117 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: much control, you know, just trying to figure it out, 118 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: and I'm trying to control that, just allowing and receiving 119 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: what's gonna come. And I think that's kind of like 120 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: what happened with me Sunday, where I finally felt like, 121 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: you know what, like I'm surrounded by good people, I'm safe, 122 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: my family is here, my family is taken care of. 123 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: That's receiving the liar thing that's gonna come my way. 124 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: It's playing back home. Did that kind of add to 125 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: that decision because you said it you thought there was 126 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: a time when you actually might just go back to 127 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: the Jets, playing for your home team and rocking this 128 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: burgundy and goal that you grew up watching. Did that 129 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: mean a little more to you? 130 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: It definitely did. You know. 131 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: I got I got three kids, and you know, I 132 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: always talk about Virginia to them. Our dog name is Virginia. 133 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh that's fly, so you know, and we and we 134 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: get back to Virginia when we can, especially in the 135 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: off season. But you know, I went to Ohio State, 136 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: so like my parents, it never could just drive. 137 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: Up and just see me. 138 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: They had to kind of like you had to like 139 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: make plans and trips and make these arrangements. And to 140 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: now know, like, Okay, I got an opportunity to be 141 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: a drive away. You know, my parents can come up 142 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: every week. I mean, my mom can, she can, she 143 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: can live with me. 144 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: And she's gonna do you know. 145 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: So, and then like my and my kids could to come. 146 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: They come anyway or twice a month because they're still 147 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: based out of Ohio, so you know, them coming into 148 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: town and my mom always being here. She gets to 149 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: see the grand babies, my dad get to see his 150 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 2: grand babies. Great girl, Like you know, it's I still, 151 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: for the first time in a long time, I feel 152 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: like I'm at home. 153 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: You know. 154 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: It's kind of like always I've always felt like I've 155 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: been this placed in that place, and I got to 156 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: kind of like balance out the two. 157 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: But now I feel like I'm I'm at I'm at 158 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: home now. 159 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: It's weird the parallels to your career, right because even 160 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: Sunday Man, we're talking before we get on, and there's 161 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: a connection to the Bears because you would play for 162 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: them before. But you had told me, you said, there's 163 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: no animosity there because some very important stuff in your life, 164 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: I think, can you talk about that? 165 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So when I was there, I lost I lost 166 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: my stepfather, and it's some people in that building that 167 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: was there for me and they did everything they could for. 168 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: Me in that time. 169 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: It is kind of like tough, like remembering those times 170 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: of just being in Chicago because I wasn't playing there, 171 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: I was I was on peace squad the whole year, 172 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: So that itself alone is frustrating and trying to fight 173 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: to the top from the bottom and trying to chase 174 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: those things. 175 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't really bring up good memories. 176 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: But you know, you know, when I lost my stepfather, 177 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: that was probably one of the most devastating things I've 178 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: been a part of. But it was people in that 179 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: building that did everything they could for me to make 180 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: sure I was okay. So that's why it's no animosity there. 181 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: But you know, it definitely was a point in my 182 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: career where I wanted to stop, like I want to 183 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: phone my agent, like no, Mass, like I can't, I can't, 184 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: I can't do this. And this is why I wasn't 185 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: camp with them after my because my stepfather passed right 186 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: before camp. So I had to go do it, deal 187 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 2: with that, and then go to camp and perform and 188 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: like taps like I really wanted to stop, and I 189 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: get released, So. 190 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 3: That's even more to that fuel. 191 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: And then you know, the Jets call I go there 192 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: and it was like it was like a revamp, like 193 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: they you know, they had a really good chemistry and 194 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: culture there as well. So people in that building helped 195 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: me get back and I fell back in love again 196 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: with football with the Jets. And then then I get 197 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: released and it's like okay, like we back to it 198 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 2: kept going up and down, up and down. But every 199 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: throughout everything, whether it was the highs and the lows, like, 200 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: there was some space to learn more about myself and 201 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: I had to make space for that, whether it was 202 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: for love or it was for you know, sadness or 203 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: joy like, but every moment, you know, I've been noticing 204 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 2: that I had to make space for whatever emotion that's 205 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: called for. 206 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: You go through all of these things and then you 207 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: get to Sunday and right off the rip you get 208 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: a sack. The crowd goes crazy. This this these fans 209 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: that are from where you're from. This is your hometown, man, 210 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure. First full circle isn't even the word for 211 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: what that moment was. You tell us what that meant 212 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: to you. The team that that didn't necessarily believe you, 213 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: the team that lets you go, but the team that 214 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: also helps you get through a really hard time. And 215 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: now you're getting a sack against them and making big plays. Man, 216 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: talk about that. 217 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 2: It was it was It was dope, man, Like it, 218 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: you know, hearing the crowd going crazy and I make 219 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: that play because also too, like I felt like I've 220 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: always not always, but I've been recently just dealing with 221 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: just you know, confidence. It was such a good thing 222 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: for confidence, man, to see myself hit that shot, get 223 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: that shock, get you know, finally make it. 224 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 3: Because before I got you, I missed a couple two 225 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: in the Justice year. So it was like. 226 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: Finally getting that and then seeing the fans going crazy, 227 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: and was you know, it was a blessing about being 228 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: close to home. My high school coach is a season 229 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: ticket holder and he sits right behind the bench. Wow, 230 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: so it was like you that before the game. I 231 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: found that out before last game, my first game, but 232 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: like I see him in. 233 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 3: The crime, I like, that's coach bums over there. Like 234 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 3: that was my high school. 235 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: Like he's over there, Like he's there every Sunday, regardless 236 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: if I'm playing for the Commanders or not, like. 237 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: This is his team. He's a season ticket holder. 238 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 2: So knowing that I can make plays and literally look 239 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: to the stands to family that maybe that's not my 240 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: mother or father or my kids, but like people who 241 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: have helped me get to where I'm at now that 242 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: they're being the stands naturally, it's it's dope. 243 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: That's beautiful, man. And you mentioned your mother, and you 244 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: mentioned all these hard things you've had to get through, man, 245 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: talk about how she's helped you get through that and 246 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: how your journey through men's mental health has helped you 247 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: become the man that you are today. 248 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom, man, she she's an incredibly strong woman. 249 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 2: She's persistent, she's she's always motivated, and you know, I 250 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: get a lot of that from her. You know, my 251 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,359 Speaker 2: mom and my father they both. 252 00:10:59,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: Had me young. 253 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: And my mom was having me when she was sixteen 254 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: and was still able to go to college and get 255 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 2: her master's degree and still do what she had men. 256 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: My father was young, still was able to work. However, 257 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: many jobs needed to do to make stuff work, like 258 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: you know, they weren't together. They co parented, but it 259 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: took two grown adults to put whatever they had to 260 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: a side to raise me. And seeing that helped me 261 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: become a better man because now I got kids and 262 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 2: I'm applying those same things that I learned from them, So, 263 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: you know, and men's mental health is hitting that like 264 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: I got I got two boys, and I know how 265 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: important how first of all father, how important that is, 266 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: and how that can leave a legacy for them. But 267 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: you know, I try my best to be on top 268 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: of minds so I can be a great leader for 269 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: them so they can see and then they take what 270 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: ill take what they learned from me, and take it 271 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: step farther. 272 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: Like that's just the whole, the whole process of that. 273 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you're not just looking out for your little man, bro, 274 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: you have a foundation where you're looking out for everybody 275 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: and talking to them about how important it is to 276 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: be aware of your mental health. Can you just talk 277 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: about that a little bit. 278 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: Before I let you go? 279 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? 280 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, man. 281 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: So it's just like, you know, just being aware of 282 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: your emotions and your feelings, like I was saying earlier, 283 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: like it's always gonna be ups and downs like that's 284 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: that's just that's life, and that's the duality of life. 285 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be some great moments and it's gonna 286 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: be some low moments. 287 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 3: Uh. 288 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: I think in every moment it's key for us to 289 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: whole space and let there be room for whatever, you know, 290 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 2: whatever emotions may be flowing, and identifying what those emotions 291 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: is because sometimes we be feeling a certain way, we 292 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 2: don't even know what it is. Like I didn't know 293 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: what anxiety was until I got to the league. I 294 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: didn't even know that I was thanking, like you know 295 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: what I mean. And when you can put a name 296 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: to certain stuff that you're feeling, you were able to 297 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: talk about it. And that's the key thing, like because 298 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: sometimes we think we're the only ones that's like I'm tripping. 299 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: I'm tripping, and then you. 300 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: Talk about it to your brother, to your to your friend, 301 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 2: your therapist. 302 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: I'm go through the same thing. 303 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 2: So now we can relate, and now we can have 304 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: this open dialogue to where I feel safe, you feel safe, 305 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: and we both can receive and give each other love, 306 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 2: and now we can we can address whatever we're going 307 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: through the right way instead of just sometimes naturally reaction 308 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: or going into this state of mind that like I'm 309 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: by myself, I'm alone and you never really alone. 310 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 1: How can people support your foundation? What's the name of 311 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: the foundation? Give them that information. 312 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: Von's Way Man, We on Instagram, Von's Way, Varn's Way underscore. 313 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: You know, we are now getting our website up now 314 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: as well, but Vonn's Way on Instagram were right there 315 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: and you can donate and everything goes to schools in 316 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: inner cities. In seven five seven, we're trying to try 317 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: to expand out to Columbus, Ohio. We just had our 318 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: first football camp this past this past summer where we 319 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: had fifteen kids. We only had fifteen football players. The 320 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: defensive lineman Wow. And we went through basically like they 321 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: was in OTAs. We had film we had We also 322 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: had them ate their business, playing elevator speech. We kind 323 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: of try to hit everything at once, man, and it 324 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: was really it was really nice. 325 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: Man. It was dope. 326 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: It's so dope, and it's it's really cool that you're 327 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: doing that with your father's name because Wan Wads is 328 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: your past father. 329 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 5: Man. 330 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: That is that is really cool to hear, Man, and 331 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I love that and talking about your family a little more. 332 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: You said he grew up in that NFC East type 333 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: family where they all got fans everywhere. So playing the 334 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: Giants this Sunday, were gonna be in New York City, 335 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Well that game mean a little more because you understand 336 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: how heavy this NFC East. 337 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: Rock actually was in the I was with the Giants 338 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: for like. 339 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: Maybe like three four months from Otoya's camp, I was 340 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: with the Giants and a little more to prove This 341 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: Sunday it's like another It's like another game. So my 342 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: grandmother is a Giants fan. She grew up one her 343 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: whole life. So it's definitely like some bragging rights within 344 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: the family. Like like I said, my grandfather he's he's sadly cowboys, 345 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: but you know he gonna love to see us beat 346 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: down on the Giants. I definitely understand and the rivalries 347 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: that come with this, with this conference, this division. I'm sorry, 348 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: So I'm ready to go out there and prove what 349 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: we gotta do. 350 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: It's nice to know that you're gonna have Eagles fans 351 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: and Cowboys fans out there somewhere rooting for the Burgundy 352 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: and Gold, even if it's secretly, they're gonna be rooting 353 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: for us. 354 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: It's all good, you know, and it slowly, you know 355 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We keep making this thing rolling there, 356 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: they'll do the right thing. 357 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 5: Man. 358 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: It was so cool talking to you, brother, man. This 359 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: was really dope. 360 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 5: Man. 361 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the commanders. Now you're doing a great job. 362 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: We can't wait to see appreciate even more sacks this 363 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Sunday against you another former team. 364 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, command this fan. 365 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: This is our next man up. Jalen Holmes, thank you, brother. 366 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate it man, command this family for our next man up. 367 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: We're bringing back a legend. He was on early in 368 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: this season, but he came on after a loss and 369 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: talked about how much he wants to see this team win. 370 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: And now we are winning. So I gotta welcome in 371 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: Rick darc Walker back to next man of How you doing, sir, 372 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: fantastic man. 373 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 5: We're in a good vibe, moving in the right direction 374 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 5: and getting people healthy. Hey man, we love that. 375 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: I can't start anywhere other than they're calling it the 376 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: miracle in Maryland? Rick, where were you at when that 377 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: hell Mary touchdown throw away? 378 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 5: I was in the one O six seven team nine 379 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 5: to eighty postgame studio and because as soon as the 380 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 5: game ends, I come on and I'm sitting there and 381 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: I was frustrated because it was a frustrating game because 382 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 5: I felt we should have been up thirty to nothing. 383 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 5: And when you've been in the league as long as 384 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 5: I've been around it, when you fail, when you settle 385 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: for three, you open the door to get your behind whip. 386 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 5: And that's why I was miserable throughout the whole game. 387 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 5: So I'm own X, reaching out to the Canine community 388 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 5: and letting them know that I'm uncomfortable. We have got 389 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 5: to cash in. Then we get two scores taken off 390 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 5: the board. Now we're creating our own mistakes, self inflicted wounds. 391 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 4: Another no no. 392 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: So we're doing everything to kind of keep the Bears 393 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 5: and the Bears a good football team. And then you're 394 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 5: starting to think, I cannot believe we get one run. 395 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 5: Defense balled out and they let their guard down for 396 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 5: one moment. They get one run, and I'm thinking, is 397 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 5: this going to be the way this thing ends? And 398 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 5: then I keep thinking about Aaron Rodgers and these dramatic 399 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 5: bombs he throws, and I'm thinking, this is my boy's 400 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 5: specialty is the deep throw. But all these stings factored 401 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 5: in and I'm going. Then I see this numb skull 402 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 5: messing with the crowd kind of the bottom of the 403 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 5: street corner. Caught my eye go but I didn't know 404 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 5: what because again TV could tell. And then all of 405 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 5: a sudden, I look at this thing, because you don't know, 406 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 5: I do know this. I've seen them. They practice this. 407 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: They had a plan and I've seen him work on it. 408 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 5: You've seen him work on They worked on every fastest 409 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 5: of the game. That's what good staffs do. Our people 410 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 5: are prepared. Had they not even converted, they were prepared 411 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 5: for success. And when he caught the ball, studio went nuts. Toby, 412 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 5: the youngest in charge, moving big al Linel screaming hot. 413 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 5: Its Pandemo is nuts. I was so relieved because now 414 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: for the next three hours, I know the Defan base 415 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 5: is going to be a static and this is going 416 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 5: to create a memory. 417 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 4: We have a caller called. 418 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 5: Him a veteran in Texas serve in our country crying 419 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 5: tears of joy. The people that have been drug over 420 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 5: the cold for the last twenty five years. They didn't quit. 421 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 5: They may have some down moments, but to hear their voices, man, 422 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 5: it's just crazy. And we deserve it. I'd me saying this. 423 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 5: We deserve it. I'm not apologizing for any of it. 424 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: It's just amazing. And then the best is yet to come. 425 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: We're in the process. This thing is still growing, it's 426 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 5: gaining momentum, and young players are developing and I just 427 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 5: can't wait. Man, it's not even Halloween. I mean it, 428 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 5: We'll go through Halloween. It, we'll go through Thanksgiving, you 429 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Football takes place in November. That's 430 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 5: when the pretenders be contenders. That's a transition. And we 431 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: got a shot and that's all you can ask for. 432 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 5: We got a shot. 433 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: And I want to go back to the fan because 434 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: you yourself have been a part of some of the 435 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: greatest moments Burguniy and Gold has ever seen. This is 436 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: a huge moment, honestly, some people's first really big moment 437 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: as Burgundy and Gold fans. For those younger fans, can 438 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: you talk to what these moments mean to such a 439 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: loyal and die hard fan base. You were on the radio, 440 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: you were taking these calls. It's kind of paid that 441 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: for it point. You haven't been on the sidelines for 442 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: so long. I remember being in New Orleans when Pierre 443 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: Garson catches Bobby Griffin's eight route down the middle. Takes 444 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: off the memories that come in the greatest moments. I 445 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 1: go back to seventy two and watching Walt Garrison get 446 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: stopped at RFK and when you see. 447 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 5: Kenny Houston Mike Bass. We've lost our two corners that 448 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 5: are no longer with us, but they were with us 449 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 5: that night, and that secondary just heralded these great moments 450 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 5: to where Moseley's kick against the Giants snowflakes slightly dropping 451 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 5: down RFK, these monumental moments to where the game is turned. 452 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 5: I can hear the chance you know we want Dallas 453 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 5: when and when Rigo came out for pregame warm up 454 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 5: for the NFC Championship game. There's like a top, there's 455 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 5: a dozen dirty dozen lists of these unbelievable moments that 456 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 5: now is on it, that enters it. And so you 457 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 5: think of how many of these moments did you experience 458 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 5: beating Dallas. We've also lost some last second herooric we've 459 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 5: been on the flip side of it. 460 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 4: That's what goes through my mind. 461 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 5: How many of these things have you seen as a 462 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: fan growing up, lived through, been a part of on 463 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 5: the feel covering it from the sideline, from the broadcast 464 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 5: booth these moments, and there's nothing like being at the 465 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 5: stadium because the reaction on the spot is priceless. It 466 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 5: cannot be duplicated. And then the people that I was 467 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 5: so impressed with our callers because we got a great relationship. 468 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 5: We're honest. They left early and they admitted it and 469 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 5: they and they ran back in there to celebrate. But 470 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 5: they were honest enough to say that'll never happen again, 471 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? People would do. It was 472 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 5: like confession. I mean, I don't know, man. I felt 473 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 5: like I was behind that that little shield and I 474 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 5: was opening up that deal and people confessed. They were like, man, 475 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 5: I left, dog, I ain't gonna lie to you. I 476 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 5: gave up, you know what I mean. And then I 477 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 5: heard the roar and we ran back in and it 478 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 5: was that kind of thing. And then the generational shift 479 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 5: where these people are wasted, they've been tailgating for us, 480 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 5: none up and they're talking to you and I said, Slim, 481 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 5: you're not driving, are You don't know my son driving, 482 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 5: my daughter driving. Now we got the baton being passed 483 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 5: the next generation because the Warriors have been they've been 484 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: through a lot. Last twenty five to thirty years has 485 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: been ugly, but they have stead fast with their kids. 486 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 5: And you don't know how many fathers took their daughters 487 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 5: to that game. That was their first game. And now 488 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 5: they're getting back into the flow. Dude, this is just 489 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 5: a tip of the spear. It's gonna be. It's a tsunami, 490 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 5: and you get a chance to see it coming and 491 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 5: it's becoming because from top to bottom now you have 492 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 5: people that are honest. They may make a mistake, they 493 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 5: may not all work out, but they're gonna be upfront 494 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 5: about it and say we just take a job done today. 495 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 5: But you know, back in there at full thirty five 496 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 5: am in the morning, you know how rewarding it is 497 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: for us normal folk to hear some dude who's filthy, rich, 498 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 5: wakes up before we wake up, cares more than we 499 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 5: care about it. That's in this generation of social media 500 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: and me, me, me, look at me, look at me. 501 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 5: When you're the lead JD Man his parents, I'm so 502 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 5: tired of these huxtables. I don't know what to do. 503 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 5: I'm so happy that an old school parenting pays off again. 504 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 5: You know, he respects the fact that he's the child, 505 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 5: he's not the adult in his own family. He respects 506 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 5: being mentored too. It's a beautiful thing, man, It's a 507 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: beautiful thing. 508 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Doc. In your time, can you remember a rookie quarterback 509 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: coming in and not only being so successful on the field, 510 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: but having the right thing to say, like you said, 511 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: being raised right, you know, giving glory to God, all 512 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: of these things. Have you ever seen a combination of 513 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: all these things from a rookie quarterback? 514 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: No? 515 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: I mean, you know, Tim Tebow had his head in 516 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: the right direction, he knew what he didn't, had his 517 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 5: kids talent. 518 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 4: The key is that have this many gifts and still 519 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: be disciplined. 520 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 5: The key is when you're blessed and you know you 521 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 5: are and still be locked in because you've been told 522 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 5: what you are and all this the whole nine. He's 523 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: still locked in. We saw him at LSU, still locked in. 524 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 5: I think a lot of it happens that going from ASU. 525 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 5: And let's not negate the fact that when you're in 526 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 5: college and you have a former pro coaching you, Herman Edwards. 527 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: Let's not lose in the. 528 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 5: Fact that his collegiate coach was a pro who's been 529 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: one of an African American head coach in the league 530 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 5: just one of the more unjust operations on the planet. 531 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 4: And if he made it to the top and this league, 532 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: let's give Herman some new because. 533 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 5: They may not have won, they didn't win at all 534 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 5: that ASU, but in terms of preparation and settling the 535 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 5: guy and letting him know, this is what you're gonna 536 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 5: need to do to get the way you want to get, 537 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 5: because how many people of color can address him the 538 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 5: where Herm could because very few people have been where 539 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 5: Herm has been. 540 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 4: And I know her came out same class. So we 541 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 4: battle and I know Herm's that dude, Yeah. 542 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 5: He's in rare error because so few people have traveled 543 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 5: and done with Herm is done. So then you go 544 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 5: there and you get Kelly at LSU, who ain't no joke. 545 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 5: I want my quarterbacks that have been co tarred. You 546 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 5: can always tell the guys that have been licked like 547 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: an ice cream cone, because then they end up telling 548 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 5: the coach what to do. 549 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: They end up. We've had him here, Huxibles. This kid 550 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: was called Brian Kelly. 551 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 5: He doesn't even look like a likable person, and yet 552 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, there's no there was no 553 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 5: there was no thing clicked. It clicked because this guy's 554 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: adaptable and the big I can tell you so many things. 555 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 5: There's a resource over there. There's only one of them 556 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 5: in the world. It's called Doug Williams, Yes, sir, and 557 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 5: that man has been over there for years now. He's 558 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: with JD. See this group, they get it. Why on 559 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 5: earth would you have a man that should be on 560 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 5: the mount rushmore of whatever football related based on what 561 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 5: he had to go through and how he was treated. 562 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 5: He dealt it with it with dignity. And you got 563 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 5: him now in your building, and you don't make it 564 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 5: mandatory that he talks to all your quinn He's got 565 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: a freak. This group did it. They saw it, they 566 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 5: get it. 567 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's what's most endearing about Jayden right 568 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: is because yes, Dan quinnin then they recognize the talent 569 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: that we have here, in the legends that we have here. 570 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: But Jaden did right away. It wasn't like it was 571 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: something they had to force. Jaden knew coming in. Let 572 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: me lean on Doug Williams, let me pay tribute to 573 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: him by wearing his jersey. And I think those are 574 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: the things that are so endearing when you see a 575 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: guy like Jaden and then you watch him do all 576 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: of these right things, and you've been a player in 577 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: that locker room with some elite quarterbacks when you see 578 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: your quarterback, you're a young quarterback doing all these right things. 579 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: Then you see him make a play that almost seems 580 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: like magic. What is the locker room saying after a 581 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: game like that, after all of these things, when they're 582 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: looking at Jayden Daniels as a player, what are you 583 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: saying about your quarterback right now? 584 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 5: Well, the key is that they're not surprised. That's the key. 585 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 5: Nobody's surprised. It's like because they know he's got it 586 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 5: in him, they expect to see it. He just delivered 587 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 5: that on demand because if you see him in practice, 588 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: you see the things that he does. And the other 589 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 5: thing about it is that you got to give Kingsbury 590 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 5: DQ and everybody in association with it because we've seen 591 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 5: him practice. That didn't make That wasn't sandlot. That was 592 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 5: about design. Those players were where they were supposed to be, 593 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 5: and the Bears weren't. The Bears were Taunton fans, and 594 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 5: the commanders were following the game plan so those were 595 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 5: both reflections of the leadership. The Bears might be on 596 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: their last run as a staff. This group is excelling 597 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 5: because their students are getting a's because they're prepped properly. 598 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 5: I had to give the Harris group job well done. 599 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: Job well done to the Harris group. And you know what, Duc, 600 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: I said it when we started. You can't. Last time 601 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: we were here, you'd said it. You said, I am 602 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: sick of losing. I have been a winner my whole life. 603 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: But now we're winning one number one in the NFC East. 604 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: How are you feeling now, Doc about the state of 605 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: the Commanders. 606 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 4: Well, I'm good. 607 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 5: Because we're I mean, the job's not done, but we're 608 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 5: hit in the right direction. And for me, it's week 609 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 5: to week, month to month. We got to win a month. 610 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 5: All I'm interested in winning the month. The fantasy and 611 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 5: the stats people and we have so Look, I'm so 612 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 5: happy for fantasy. 613 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm happy for gambling. 614 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: I love it because it elevates the game and we 615 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 5: get people that don't understand the game, the fans of 616 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 5: the game, and it's merch. It's it's a beautiful thing. 617 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 5: Once I retire, I'm going to get in fantasy. That's 618 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 5: what I'll do. But I can't do both because you 619 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: can only serve one master. Mine's winning. See the people 620 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 5: that in this, they don't care who wins. They just 621 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 5: want their guy to do well. As long as their 622 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 5: guy does alright, they win. As long as the team 623 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 5: may sit to spread over under they win. No, no, no, Now. 624 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 5: The only thing the way I win is when we win. 625 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 5: We got to win the games we got. I want 626 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: to be in the playoff. I want to see that 627 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 5: pack for playoff game. I can't get over to Seattle. 628 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 5: I'm still I am. I can't get that out of mind. 629 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: I'm still hurting over our playoff losses Seattle and every 630 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 5: one of them is just because it's so permanent. That 631 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 5: gun goes off, you're done, and I just you know, 632 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 5: and I havn't seen the Mystics, Wizards, Caps, Gnats parade. Brother, 633 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 5: We're built for parades, and we're built for it to 634 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 5: have that right here, and I just got to have 635 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 5: one more of those. 636 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: It's got to happen. I've got to see it. 637 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: And a big part of getting to say those parades, 638 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: A big part of getting into the play is winning 639 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: your division. And this weekend, we head to New York 640 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: to place the Giants for the second time. Can you 641 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: put a light on how important it is for us 642 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: to not only be dominant in this game, but also 643 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: be dominant against all NFC East opponents. 644 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, you have to realize that you 645 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 5: dodge a bullet, you earn that. But we were sloppy 646 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 5: and we were our own worst enemies. It's hard enough 647 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 5: to beat the Bears. You got to beat the Bears 648 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 5: and the Commanders. So and these guys, what I like 649 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 5: about them is that they will take that my bad. 650 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 5: They know where they err. It's hard enough. Let the 651 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 5: opponent beat you, but don't beat yourself. We had two 652 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 5: scores called back, so we got to play smarter, we 653 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 5: got to execute better, and I think they will because 654 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 5: you know they're going to put the work in. You 655 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 5: don't have to worry about them cutting corners. I guarantee 656 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: you and I haven't seen it. I haven't been I 657 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 5: promise you there's not one guy over there is mister treatment, 658 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 5: or that it's missed, the weight workout of that has 659 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 5: missed film study. I would put everything I own on that. 660 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 5: And they don't have to be monitored to do it. 661 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 5: They're doing it because every interview you hear them, every 662 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 5: stinking interview they mentioned a teammate. They love going to 663 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 5: work and they know that it ends. The beauty about 664 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 5: sports is that you know you're in a short window. 665 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 5: Nobody but Tom Brady plays forty to something that's you know, 666 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 5: most guys you haven't get that long a run. The 667 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 5: hardest thing to get young people to realize is that 668 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 5: there's an expiration date on your career and you don't 669 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 5: know when it ends. 670 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: No matter how young you are, you can be out 671 00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 4: like that. 672 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 5: So how do I get you to take this thing 673 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 5: treated like your working with Nitro Glisser. That's what would 674 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 5: I use to say, there's no margin for error. We 675 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 5: need to get this thing done. Since the urgency, get 676 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 5: it done now. And once we secure that Lombardi, then 677 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 5: we take a breath for a minute, and then we 678 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 5: go try to get another one. 679 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 4: Then we get greedy. But until we get that first one, 680 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 4: we got to be locked in. 681 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: You're a huge part of honoring Darryl Green. It was 682 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: such a big moment. You could tell it meant so 683 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: much to him. Why was it so important for you 684 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 1: to speak to be there to help honor a guy 685 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: like Daryl. 686 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 4: Green because he asked me to, you know, and I 687 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: played with him, and I was there his rookie, you know, 688 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 4: playing with him, watching him do things I've never seen 689 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 4: a human being do. He's like striding run at four 690 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 4: to two. 691 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 5: I saw see when you see it at ground level. 692 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 5: We talked about this. Some people see the game from 693 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 5: the luxury box, some see it from the press box, 694 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 5: some view the game from the coaches the fans area, 695 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 5: and there's a rare group that sees it from ground level. 696 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 5: It's not the best view. You miss a lot of it, 697 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 5: but what you get to see is something only NFL 698 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 5: film sees. And there's some things about because you see 699 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 5: some hits that other people don't see. I saw and 700 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: remember vividly Daryl Green taking on guards. You know he's fast, 701 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 5: but don't ever discount his toughness because if I was 702 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 5: playing against US, I would have just been pulling people 703 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 5: at him. Man, he's a spartan. This dude is tough. 704 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 5: That's why I don't worry about JD. Pujas. He's been 705 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 5: out size of his whole life. 706 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: Be good with that. 707 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 5: You uncomfortable with it because you can't envision yourself being 708 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 5: his size. 709 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: He good with it. 710 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 4: See Darryl Green courage. 711 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 5: I was on the sideline in Chicago when he made 712 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 5: that miraculous returned and leaped and did the carlage, and 713 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 5: I went in and interviewed the Bears. I'll never forget 714 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: going to Singletary and I did their locker room and 715 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 5: interviewed the players about it. I did it with a 716 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 5: straight face too. I was so happy, but I meant 717 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 5: that they were just strong, so it. 718 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 4: Might have been work for West. 719 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 5: If I go in, I'm doing both locks, but just 720 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 5: to see the damage my boys have won there in Chicago. 721 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 5: It's that sideline deal that you get and watching players, 722 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 5: you know how it is. You've been there, you've seen it, 723 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 5: you know it. It's the secret thing going there. This 724 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 5: goes on and guy's being real pain, but they always 725 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 5: want to go back in. They always want to go in, 726 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 5: and you do it for that guy you're playing with 727 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 5: dot matter. It's the dudes you battle with. And that's 728 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,439 Speaker 5: the one thing that DQ has done a great job. 729 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 5: Man and Joe Wick Jr. They translate that. They understand 730 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 5: it's the guy's game and they're trying to enhance the 731 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 5: guys to make it the best for them because they've 732 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 5: all been through it. 733 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: And that's a harmony that I haven't seen here in 734 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 4: quite some time. 735 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: And Command is family. There is nobody to talk about 736 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: the change is going on here better than Rick Doc Walker, 737 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: somebody that has seen so much success and it's now. 738 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 4: Changed man to witness coaching change. 739 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: We love it. We love seeing the good changes man, 740 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: and we love seeing success here. Command this family, our 741 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: Next Man Up. Legendary super Bowl champion Rick Doc Walker, Doc, 742 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate your brother. As always, Command is Family. We 743 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed this episode of Next Man Up. And 744 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: if you've missed the other episodes, go check them out 745 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: on the Commanders YouTube page or stream them wherever you 746 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,959 Speaker 1: get your podcast. I'm your host, Brian Cope Jr. Until 747 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: next Friday. This is his Next Man Up, Stood Up.