1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: Brazil three oh five was supposed to come out in 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and I went to my mom's house with 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: the tracks and sang it to her live in her 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: kitchen because she was so excited about hearing what it 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: was going to sound like. And then that week she 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: got ill. Suddenly at the end we lost her and 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: it was the most devastating loss of my life. And 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: I tried to do the you know, go in and 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: do my part four months after, because Sony was anxiously awaiting, 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: but there was no way I couldn't sing. I would try, 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: but every song is so tied to the memory of 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: my mother. They all took on a whole different thing, 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: like when I went to try to sing don't want 14 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: to lose your Midieira or Gonlosan, you can make Ada, 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: and it was brutal. So I literally called Sony and said, look, 16 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: you guys, I can't do this. You need to give 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: me time. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: From Putro Media. It's Latino USA. I'm mariaojosam today. A 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: portrait of Gloria Estefan. When Gloria is Stefan's acclaimed hit 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: Gongan came out in nineteen eighty five, the rule was 21 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: taken by story Gloria because at the time she was 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: a shy but powerful front woman to the Miami Sound Machine, 23 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: the group that quickly realized she was so much more 24 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: so they changed their name to Gloria Stefan and the 25 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Miami Sound Machine, and eventually they just became the band 26 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: for Glodia Stefan. The Cuban American singer songwriter, is also 27 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: a multifaceted artist and a philanthropist. Gloria is an international 28 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: icon with over one hundred million records sold, thirty eight 29 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: number one hits on the Billboard charts, and she's a 30 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: seven time Grammy winner. Along with her husband Emilio, they 31 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: were the first couple to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom, 32 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 2: and Gladia is the first Cuban American to receive a 33 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Kennedy Center honor. While her climb to the top has 34 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: been steady, it hasn't always been easy. In early nineteen ninety, 35 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: at the peak of her vane, she was in a 36 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: severe bus accident during a snowstorm while touring for her 37 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: best selling album Cuts both Ways. It was major news. 38 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: The truck smashed into her tour of US. She suffered 39 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 2: serious spinal injuries now threatens the career. She fractured her 40 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: spine and it wasn't clear if she would ever be 41 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: able to walk or dance again. She endured a rigorous 42 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: recovery of an almost full year, but that didn't slow 43 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: her down for long. Three decades later, she continues her 44 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: trajectory of sex sasays with hit after hit. There's also 45 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: a Broadway Tony nominated musical Get on Your Feet, about 46 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: her and Emilia's life, and just this year, she has 47 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 2: a new album and a new series on Facebook Watch. 48 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: It's called Red Table Talk. 49 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: Red Table Talk The Stephans I'm Table to a whole. 50 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: New please, featuring her daughter Emily and her niece Lily Estefan. 51 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: In this continuing series we call Portrait of I sit 52 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: down with the icon Gloria Stefan to discuss her life, 53 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: her relationships, how she overcomes trauma, and how after so 54 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: many years in the business, she manages to be excited 55 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: about everything she does. So, Gloria, you have said that 56 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: you know your mom passed and it put the album 57 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Brazil three oh five on hold, but ultimately you released 58 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: the album a few months ago, and I'm wondering if 59 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: you can talk more about how you push through that process. 60 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: So it was June twelfth, the day before it would 61 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: have been three years that my mom passed, that we 62 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: finally released the first single, which was took over a 63 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: year before I could grieve sufficiently to put the joy 64 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: that was intended that I felt was important to put 65 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: out that single, even though it was in Spanish, because 66 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to put joy and love out into the 67 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: universe to balance all this difficult and dark time that 68 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: we've all lived and are still experiencing. And music, to me, 69 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: that's its biggest, you know, offering to our world that 70 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: it can lift your spirits out of a tough situation. 71 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: It always did that for me. 72 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: I want to actually spend a little time talking about 73 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: your mom, because I know I've talked to you about 74 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: your dad. Your dad died from exposure to agent orange 75 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: after he served in Vietnam. But I actually want to 76 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 2: know a little bit more about your mom. And she actually, 77 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, she was kind of like, oh 78 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: my god, Gloria, you know work in the music business. 79 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: How's that going to be? Please go to university, which 80 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: you did. So she was incredibly influential in your life. 81 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: But she was also at certain points like could you 82 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: do it? Was that. 83 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: Hugely? Okay, let me just say one word about my mom. 84 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: She was the diva. Diva is actually an understatement from 85 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: my mom. There was an international contest held by Hollywood 86 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: by twentieth Century Fox to find a girl that could 87 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: sing Shirley Temple music and dub her movies in Spanish 88 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: and serve as her bule. My mom won that contest, 89 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: but my grandfather put his foot down when they said 90 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: that only one parent could accompany the child and have 91 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: legal rights over the child in Hollywood, and he absolutely 92 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: refused to let my mother go be a Hollywood star 93 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: or whatever was going to be in her path. So 94 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: that changed. She got a PhD in education, and when 95 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: we came to the United States, they ripped up her credentials. 96 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: My dad was in the army. He was a political 97 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: prison two years in Bay of Pigs. So I was 98 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: alone with my mom in Miami in later years when 99 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: she got her teaching credentials and was the union rep 100 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: for her school and everything. So my mom was always 101 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: the center of any room she entered. She was funny, 102 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: she sang beautifully. She was the center of my life. 103 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: She scrounged enough money to buy a record player, and 104 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: her mother would send her collection of records, you know, 105 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: hidden in a box of mango baby food, which was 106 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: the only one that I would eat. So she made 107 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: sure that I was surrounded by music despite everything that 108 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: we were living. Her record collection was eclectic. It had 109 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: not only the grades of Cuba like Cacao Olgagi Yok 110 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: and Celia Cruz, but it had al Triolos Banchos, It 111 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: had Javier Soliz, It had Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra, 112 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Nat King Cole. Then she had Brazilian music because Carmen 113 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Miranda she loved. Later on there Jobim and the Elise Regina, 114 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: Klara Nunez. So she had this eclectic record collection that 115 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: was the base of my musical experience early early on. 116 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: But also you said that your mom was really hard 117 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 2: on you for wanting to take the life of an artist. 118 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: So tell me a little bit more about that. 119 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: I sang and started playing guitar at eight years old. 120 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: She would make me sing for her friends. She thought 121 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: I sounded beautiful, but in no way did she want 122 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: me to get into the business. And I didn't really 123 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: get into the business. I met Amelia at a friend's house. 124 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: So I was always going to go to school. I 125 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: love education. I was never not going to do it. 126 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: But when I joined the band at seventeen, let's just say, 127 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: my mom was not too happy I got married and 128 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: she thought that I'd be pulling away. And then when 129 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: I took my sister on the road, she put her 130 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: foot down and didn't speak to me for two years. 131 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: So that's the kind of, you know, personality that my 132 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: mom had. 133 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: So the interesting thing for me, Gloria, is the end 134 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: of what you just said, which is you said me, Mama, 135 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: she stopped talking to you because of your sister, And 136 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: I'm just like, did you pick up any of that 137 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: that capacity to just be like, well, you know, I'm 138 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 2: I just won't speak to my daughter for two years 139 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: because I'm angry. 140 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: No, no way, There's no way I would let that happen. 141 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, but if my daughter then chose not to 142 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: speak to me, can you control it. I don't think 143 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: that would happen either, because she knew the story about 144 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: her grandmother. Look, it's a different thing. We have to 145 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: look at it in the perspective of to my mom's generation. 146 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Children were a possession pretty much. You had no say 147 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: or I didn't at least I don't know about your mom. 148 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: But they had a phrase in Spanish which is very 149 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: crafts but it says los nino's avelanlas gayina's man, which 150 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: means children talk when when chickens pee and chickens don't be, 151 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: they do it all together. 152 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: I heard it all the time too, like we won't 153 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: need them, we won't need Mayana who oh, very very nice, 154 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: very nice, just go play outside. 155 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: Like that was exactly you're supposed to do what you're told, 156 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: is the bottom line. Like there were very strict rules. 157 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: And when I told my mom that I was taking 158 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: my sister on road with me because I really felt 159 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: that my sister needed me when my dad died, she 160 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of lost it because she was so close to 161 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: my dad and in school. Eventually she kind of got distracted. 162 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: Now I had been her mom all this time pretty much, 163 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: because my mom, in turn, was working and going to 164 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: school to revalidate her PhD. And I took care of 165 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: my sister. I took care of my dad when I 166 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: came home from school, and my. 167 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: Sister, I mean, you were really like the perfect Cuban 168 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: daughter Mundo, I was a rebel. I was like, I 169 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: was oppositional, and then now I'm kind of like, yo, 170 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: I didn't need to be that oppositional, which I was 171 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 2: thinking about your mom to you, but you know, your 172 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: mom to you, to you, mothering your sister, to you 173 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: becoming a mother, and I'm just kind of wondering, like, 174 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: do you understand your I mean, we all have this, 175 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: like come, okay, oh my god, I understand my mother 176 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: so much more or has it been more like it 177 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: didn't need to be that difficult. 178 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: Of course, it didn't need to be that difficult. I 179 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: don't that part. I understand it because I understand my mother. 180 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: They were raised in a very strict tradition. She thought 181 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: this is how it is. And when I told her 182 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 1: after she was already missing me, I was the rock. 183 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: I took care of everything for her. I made sure 184 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: everything happened. I picked up the food at my grandma's, 185 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: I picked up my sister at school. I took care 186 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: of my dad. So when all of a sudden, you know, 187 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: he was already in the hospital at this point when 188 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: I was starting to tour and do these things. But 189 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: when she saw first that I left. Then now not 190 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: only did I leave, but now I'm taking my sister. 191 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: It was like, oh, who do you think you are? Like, yeah, 192 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: and by the way, in that time, there were no 193 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: cell phones. All right, let's be clear. So it was easy. 194 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: Since I was traveling all over the world in a 195 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: million different time zones, it was easy for her to 196 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: make a point. And I would continue to call her 197 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: and try to connect despite her saying she wasn't going 198 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: to talk to me. I'd leave messages and she wouldn't 199 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: answer because she was like So that was her personality, strong, determined, 200 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: and she was never wrong. My mother would never, ever 201 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: in her life, admit to being wrong about anything. To 202 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: put it in perspective, when I had that accident, my 203 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: mother had not spoken to me for two years, and 204 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: she saw me. God, yes, she was in Yes, she 205 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: was in the teacher's lounge at her school, and what 206 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: she saw on the TV on the scroll was Glorious, 207 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: Stephan'm dead in boss crush. 208 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. 209 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: That was her first news of the other. She collapsed. 210 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Her friend ran into my mom and said, Gloria, you know, 211 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: don't pay attention to that. They've already said that that 212 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: was a mistaken you know thing that yes, she's in 213 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: bad condition, but she's not dead. 214 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a strange thing to have your most 215 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: traumatic moment or one of your most traumatic moments. Right, 216 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: How have you understood your ability to process trauma in 217 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: your life? 218 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I'm I think I'm very resilient. 219 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: I remember being very young and feeling very old, like 220 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: I've felt younger as my life has progressed, because as 221 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: a kid, I felt like I've been around a long time. 222 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say it. And then 223 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: with all the responsibilities, I think that really shored me up, 224 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. And I've always been a 225 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: person that is a bit psychic. You know, we all 226 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: are all right, but I really listened to the universe 227 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: and the messages coming to me. And it's funny because 228 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: Amelia and I when we finally moved into this house, 229 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: I put an elevator in this house, and he would say, 230 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 1: why do you need an elevator it's one floor and 231 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: I would say, well, you know, we need we have 232 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: bags and it's much easier to have something to bring 233 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: down all the bags, and you know, and the people 234 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: that clean maybe they needed for I made excuses, but 235 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: in my heart, I knew that I was going to 236 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: need one day that elevator. And when we would run 237 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: up those stairs, I would get this flash and say, 238 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: one day, you're not going to be able to do this. No, no, 239 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: But then I would get another immediate wave, but it's 240 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: going to be okay. Now. You got to realize that 241 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: being paralyzed is a common fear because my dad was 242 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: in a wheelchair, So I lived this experience every day 243 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: of my life, and I knew what it meant to 244 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: have someone in a wheelchair. 245 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: It was my dad, right, because that's something that I 246 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: wasn't I don't think I ever remember kind of having 247 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: a fear of becoming paralyzed. But you're saying you basically 248 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: you were living with that for. 249 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: Real exactly, and you tend to, you know, fear, Oh 250 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: my god, what if this would happen to me? Like 251 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: when I had that accident that I was on the 252 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: floor of the bus that I had just woken I 253 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: was taking a nap on the couch in the front 254 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: to rest up for the concert, and all of a 255 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: sudden I opened my eyes because the bus stopped, and 256 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: I thought we had arrived in Syracuse at the place. 257 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: But when I look out that we were stopped in 258 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: traffic and then boomed, There was an explosion. So I 259 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: was awake, but I don't remember the actual moment of 260 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: getting injured. Two seconds later, I'm on the floor of 261 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: the bus and I'm looking up and I'm going what happened? 262 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: It was like one of these crazy scenes. Et Milo's 263 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: looking over me all bloody. The bus drivers caught in 264 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: the steering wheel and it's snowing inside the bus. We 265 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: had crashed into a flatbed truck loaded with steel cable 266 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: that had unraveled and literally sliced the front of the bush, 267 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: which helped. It helped me because it put me into 268 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: like a state. Now they put you on ice first thing. 269 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: So for the hour and a half it took for 270 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: the pramids to get to us, I was freezing. And 271 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: that's what they do now. Well, baby afraid, I from no. 272 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: Life is never easy. 273 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: At that moment, while I was laying on the floor 274 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: of the bus, so many thoughts went to my head. 275 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: My first thought, where's the baby, naid my son, who 276 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: was eight years old. So I said it to a media, 277 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: I go find the baby because I couldn't hear anything. 278 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: There was no sound. So I hear Emilia yelling for him, 279 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: and I was holding my breath literally. You know, there's 280 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: where the bargaining begins. God, please let him be okay. 281 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't care what happens to me. Please, I don't care. 282 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: I'll deal with my own situation, but please let my 283 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: son be okay. So then I heard him daddy. So 284 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: then he sat him next to me and I held 285 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: his hand and he kept saying, Mommy, please get up, 286 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: and you know, I go, baby, I can't get up. 287 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: Bread Now, you know, I saw he was going into shock. 288 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: All I was thinking of, I've got to keep him 289 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: sane until we get help. 290 00:16:59,080 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: You're like. 291 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: To tell you, I mean, that's my number one thing 292 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: in life, and I that helped me get past this. 293 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: So then the pain was excruciating, which also gave me 294 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: some hope because I knew that if I didn't feel pain, 295 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: it would have severed the cord. A nurse came into 296 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: the door that was two cars back or a car 297 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: behind us and said, I'm a nurse, does anybody need help? 298 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: And I told her I think I broke my back 299 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: and I would grab my legs and pull them up 300 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: because that would alleviate the pain a little bit. And 301 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: then she said, Okay, you can't do this, and she 302 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: sat behind me. She grabbed my head and became a 303 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: human brace. She put my head on her loud and 304 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: she goes, no matter how much it hurts, you cannot move. 305 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 3: May not make it fine. 306 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: Listen this line it shine and men. 307 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: Coming up on Latino USA. Our portrait of Gladia. Stephan continues, 308 00:18:06,080 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: stay with us, not the y Yes, Hi, Hey, we're back. 309 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: And when we left off, we were talking with Gloria 310 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 2: Stefan about that horrific moment in her life, the bus 311 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 2: accident in early nineteen ninety and how it changed her forever. 312 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: Let's jump back into the conversation. You're talking about this, 313 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 2: and actually the way you even talk about it now 314 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: is so kind of precise. Pro trio Gloria, what you 315 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: just said to me about being psychic, about the elevator, 316 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: about knowing, So can you make that connection between like 317 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: trauma and the psychic spiritual part of you? 318 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: So here is the connection. So when I opened my 319 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: eyes and I look up and I'm facing the roof 320 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: of the bus, and I'm going, what the hell I'm 321 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: on the floor. I try to stand up and I can't. 322 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, here it is. But then I 323 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: got but it's going to be okay. That's what I 324 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: clung to. That's what I clung to. 325 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: All Right, I heard of it? So was it? So? 326 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: Was it in your head? Were you speaking to yourself? 327 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: They gave, Oh my god, this is Italy. 328 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: It's a certainty that I feel. That's how the things 329 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: that I have felt that have come true because I've 330 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: said a lot of things to Medio. This is going 331 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: to happen. This is going to happen. I don't know how, 332 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: I don't know when, but it's going to happen. 333 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: And Emilio, Emilio connects to your this psychic thing that 334 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: you get this, I mean, you're he's cool with it. 335 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: He's like very much. 336 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: He has it too, Emilio. It's look, everybody has it. Yeah, yeah, 337 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: it's we all. If you tune in, yes, you know 338 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: that gut feeling. They call it a gut feeling. Ideally, 339 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: when we make a decision, all the senses and the 340 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: gut are working together. But if I have to decide, 341 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: I'll decide the gut over the senses. 342 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: So, Gloria, here's the thing. I want you to talk 343 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 2: for a moment a little bit about this spirituality, this 344 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 2: psychic as you call it. I'm thinking about the traditions, 345 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: the Afro Cuban traditions of whether it's Santiria or Yoruba 346 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: or just an understanding of like Yodisha is, like you 347 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: know how important nature is to rooting us, you know, 348 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: never forgetting your ancestors. And I'm just wondering, like, are 349 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: you more deeply spiritual about these things as you're getting older? 350 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: And are you even freer to make the kind Is 351 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: it feeling safer for you in this kind of spiritual realm? 352 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: Well, I got to tell you, Look, I'm very spiritual, 353 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: but I am not dogmatic. I respect all religions. I 354 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: look at the religion of the Yoduba tribe from Cuba, 355 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: and interestingly enough, with this latest album Brazil three o five, 356 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: we shot a documentary that explores these roots and how 357 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: Cuba and Brazil share this common Yoduba tribe and how 358 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: they transform the music of each country. But at the 359 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: core is Africa of all these amazing rhythms. So I 360 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: see it in a cultural way. I don't follow I mean, 361 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: and I was raised Catholic. I admire and I respect 362 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: all religions, and I see them mostly as a cultural 363 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: way to translate the God concept. I do believe in 364 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: a higher power. My belief is that everything that could 365 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: possibly unfold will and it'll all go back like it 366 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: have been aflow, and we are all just a tiny 367 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: little cog in this wheel. So to me, the main 368 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 1: religion is treating other people with respect and love, trying 369 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,239 Speaker 1: to put positive things into the balance of nature, and 370 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: music being the prime source to do that for me, 371 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: being able to communicate with other people, trying to inspire them. 372 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: You and Emilio have. 373 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: Been married, forty two married and forty four together and 374 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: then one more that he was my boss for five. 375 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm thinking about that relationship. I'm thinking about 376 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: how you take this legacy of your mother and your 377 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: father and how you have understood that in your relationship 378 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: with Emilio. So how do you understand when so far 379 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: being so, how do you understand like what you brought 380 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 2: from to my mind, bye to your relationship with Emilio 381 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: that has allowed you to remain in love and together 382 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: all of these years. 383 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I have to give the credit where credit 384 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: is due. Emilio is an amazing human being and we 385 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: have a wonderful relationship. It's usually up to the woman 386 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: to keep the emotional conversation going because men are not 387 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: like that. And at the beginning he was. He's the 388 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: kind of guy that he doesn't like to talk when 389 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: he's upset or whatever, and I'm the person that doesn't 390 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: want to go to bed angry. So there was a 391 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: lot at the beginning of not that we The good 392 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: news is that we didn't are argue a lot, and 393 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: I think that helps a lot. The fact that I 394 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: didn't even think I would get married. Honestly, Maria, I 395 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: went through so much with my dad and I wanted 396 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: to experience life. I didn't have a social life as 397 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: a teenager, so I wanted to go study. When I 398 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: graduated from UM, I graduated a year early and I 399 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: had been accepted to Sorbonne and I wanted to study 400 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: international law and diplomacy. So in my eyes, it was 401 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: like live live live, because I had been so encased 402 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: for so long. And then Emilia comes along and he 403 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: was my boss for a year. Like I said, we 404 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: dated for two years when that started because I have 405 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: a theory that it takes at least three years for 406 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: you to really know somebody. Eventually something is going to 407 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: come out that you're gonna know them better. 408 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: I love the three year market. 409 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: For me, it's three years minimum, all right. So by 410 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: the time I married Emelia, I had no doubt in 411 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: my mind that I wanted to be married forever. But 412 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: we rarely argue because we're on the same page about business, 413 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: about music, about our family, about our priorities. 414 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Right. But you know what, but the not fighting in 415 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: the not Big Green is actually, in my view, a 416 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: very conscious decision on the part of the members of 417 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 2: Esa Pareha. You're also going to let things slide, you know, 418 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: you know what, like just like I'm not going to 419 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 2: pick that fight. So let me ask you this. When 420 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: there were moments of challenge in any relationship, was that 421 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: you were Emilio that basically said we're going to do this. 422 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: I think it's inherent in the balance of male female 423 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: that generally, and I hate generalizations, but women, I think 424 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: are more have a bigger emotional vocabulary than men. And 425 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: that's why sometimes we're at odds because Emilio, when he's angry, 426 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: he's just not listening. So I had to learn that 427 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: and just wait till he calmed down. But it was 428 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: both of us. I don't think there was ever one 429 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: of us. I let him take us time because he 430 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: needs his time, and then when he comes back, then 431 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: I sit down and I do I read him the 432 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: little letter as we say, lele la, which means, okay, 433 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: this is what happened, we need to talk about it. 434 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: I had to learn that dynamic at the beginning. We 435 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: were two different people in that way. And that's also 436 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: the secret to a happy marriage. 437 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, because I was going to ask you, I 438 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: was like, you. 439 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: Have that listen, that's in my estimation, what is the 440 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: secret If you're each taking care of the other one, 441 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: you're both taken care of. You know, egos. Once you're 442 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: a couple, it's not that you have to say, oh, 443 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: everything is about the other person. But if if for 444 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: you it's about the other person and for them it's 445 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 1: about you, then it's cool. Ego out and you know 446 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: you're both taken care of in a beautiful way. And 447 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: that's the way it's been. 448 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: Gladia Stephane said it very simple. Ego out. 449 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: Listen, we both want to be married, We're in love 450 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: with each other. The things we've gone through, the traumas, 451 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: have only brought us closer together. And that can tell 452 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: you about it. 453 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: You know, you're breaking you ground again, Gloria, You're you know, 454 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: such a symbol for so many of us in how 455 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 2: to live a life that is fearless, that is full 456 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 2: of love. And you've launched this new series. It's called 457 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 2: Red Table Talks and it's with your family, the Stephans. Exactly, 458 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: So this is new. It's on Facebook Watch. You're co 459 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: hosting with your daughter Emily and your niece Lily is 460 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: Stefan Claudola, Flaca lave laca. 461 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Three different women, three different generations. We're loud, we're proud. 462 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 2: Let's go. 463 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 3: Talking about relationships, love, sexuality. 464 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, why did you feel like you wanted 465 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: to do this now? I mean in terms of Latina, 466 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think it's like, yes, Ora, 467 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: that we talk about this multi generationally and not be 468 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 2: afraid of the shame and lok for you, what is that? 469 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: Is that? What's motivating this right now? 470 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: Well, in one of my songs Always Tomorrow, there's a 471 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: line that says things will never stay the same the 472 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: only one sure thing is change. 473 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 4: There's a it's not. 474 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: And we can't be afraid of it. We have to 475 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: embrace it, especially now post COVID and post pandemic, which 476 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: we aren't there yet, but so much change is going 477 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: to come from this. It's like nature, like turning things 478 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: on its head. So this is the perfect format for me. 479 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: It's an open conversation. It's three generations of women. And 480 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, especially since three years ago, Emily came out 481 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: very publicly, and we've never spoken about these things in 482 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: public because personally, to me it was a non issue, 483 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: but it was not a non issue to her, and 484 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: she was going through some things that I had no 485 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: too were happening, and just like us, there are gazillion 486 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: families out there, likewise with Laflaca, with her very public 487 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: divorce that she was thrust into. And I think being 488 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: a family that has been in this business for a 489 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: long time, it's kind of like welcoming people into our family. 490 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: It gives me freedom. So I think it's a good opportunity. 491 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: And this wouldn't have happened before in my life because 492 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: I was focusing on so many things that were important 493 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: to focus on, but particularly now in my life, I 494 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: really want to continue to broaden that communication with my 495 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: fans worldwide in a different way, in a more thoughtful way, 496 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: in a deeper way, in a way that we connect 497 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: as human beings, like the accident did. Because let me 498 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: tell you something, I was at the peak of my 499 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: fame when that accident happened. But because of how people 500 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: saw me live through the experience as a person, as 501 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: a human being, the connection was made much deeper and different, 502 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: which that you know, it was a incredibly fuck me 503 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: just one moment. 504 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 2: It's dis guy. From that one moment in my life, 505 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm not a bit all right. So one last question, 506 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: what would you say to that younger There was that 507 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: younger Gloria, you know, who was just like me. Boy, 508 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: it's gonna be amazing, and I'm gonna do you know, 509 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be free. I'm gonna be that American independent woman. 510 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: But what would you say? What would be the piece 511 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: of advice you would give to that Gloria about her life? 512 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: Then I would say she lax and enjoy because I 513 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: was going against my nature. My nature is not to 514 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: be the center of attention. I had to suffer through that, 515 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: but I also like to do things well. So if 516 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna be the frontman of a band, I 517 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: was gonna find a way to pull every possible thing 518 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: out of myself that I could. I found way to 519 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: be able to channel my reticence for being in the 520 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: center spotlight and just bring out what music made me feel. 521 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: And that's what I would say. I would say, listen, 522 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: be in the moment, because a lot of those moments 523 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: I was getting through them, and sometimes I would be 524 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: looking over people's heads in the audience because if I 525 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: looked at their faces, I was going to be petrified. 526 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: And I missed a lot. And I tell that to 527 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: my daughter. I go, there are parts of my left 528 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: that I don't even remember because it was all such 529 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: a crazy roller coaster and I was just trying to 530 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: get past this to get to the next thing and 531 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: the next thing and the next thing. And I told her, 532 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: quite honestly, you may not get a next thing. So 533 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, be in that moment, look into people's eyes, 534 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: make that connection. I just wish if I had anything 535 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: to do different, that's the one thing I would do. 536 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: But then again, you only learn that by going through 537 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: the process, because who was going to tell me that, 538 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: you know, even if you live a long life. I 539 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: tell people all the time I go, even if I 540 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: live a long life, I'll be done soon. 541 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: So you know, we need to wait a mite. But alas, 542 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: I see what I want. 543 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: But it's a fact. It's a fact. Why why don't 544 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: we like to deal with it? Why why does Western 545 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: civilization not even acknowledge the only thing that's sure? 546 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: The reason why I didn't want you to say it, 547 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: I'll be honest. 548 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: With you, superstiion you know what I've learned that fear 549 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: is something that I do not want anywhere near me 550 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: because I manifested the biggest fear that I had in 551 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: my life, pretty much being paralyzed, and I got over it, 552 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: and I thought to myself in that whole, you know, 553 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: while I was recuperating from that accident, and I thought, 554 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: maybe this was the reason I became famous. I mean, 555 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: the fame came along with doing music, which I love. 556 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: But I go, maybe this is my opportunity because I'm famous, 557 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: to connect on this whole other level with people. 558 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: It is what it is. 559 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: You know. I almost died at thirty three. Every day 560 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: after that is a gift. Thirty two actually I hadn't 561 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: yet turned thirty three, so everything. 562 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: After that is is a gift, and we are so 563 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: happy that that gift has been given to the whole world, 564 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: and that you gifted me beautiful conversation. Claudia. I'm so 565 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: thankful that we were able to spend this time together 566 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: and that you took us into your life a little bit. 567 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for speaking with me on Latino USA. 568 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: Thank you and thank everybody that has given me so 569 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: many decades of love and support. I could not have 570 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: done it without you, and take so much job takes 571 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: a much time. 572 00:33:51,400 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: On This episode was produced by Ginni Montalvo and edited 573 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: by Andrea Lopez Gruzsado. The Latino USA team includes Miel Masis, 574 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: Luis Trees, Julieta Martinelli, Alis Escarce, and Alejandra Salasad, with 575 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: help from Marta Martinez and Raoul Berees. Our engineers are 576 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 2: Stephanie Lebau, Julia Caruso and Liah Shaw, with help from 577 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: Alishiva YouTube and today Wes Alvios Astell Approxima Astluego to 578 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: our director of programming and Operations, Natalia fidel Jols, Natalia 579 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 2: Huchas gracias for all of your hard work and congratulations 580 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: on a big new project. We're very excited with you, 581 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: Mos Extrage. Our digital editor is Luis Luna. Our New 582 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 2: York Women's Foundation Ignite fellow is Julia Rocha. Our interns 583 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 2: are jimel aleel Cerro, Emil Sequiros and Gabriel La Bayez. 584 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 2: Our theme music was composed by Zenia Ubinos. If you 585 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: like the music you heard on this episode, stop by 586 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: Latinousa dot org and check out our weekly Spotify playlist. 587 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 2: I'm your host and executive producer Maria ino Hosa. Join 588 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: us again on our next episode. In the meantime, look 589 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 2: for us on all of our social media Hi los 590 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 2: BeO estella proxima. 591 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 4: Oh Latino Usa is made possible in part by the 592 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 4: Heising Simons Foundation, unlocking knowledge, opportunity and possibilities More at 593 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 4: hsfoundation dot org, the Ford Foundation, working with visionaries on 594 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 4: the front lines of social change worldwide, and the John D. 595 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 4: And Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation. 596 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 2: Since summer ended, Gloria has been struggled. Oh Gloria Stefan, 597 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: We're struggling to secure for no wrong wrong, Okay, I'm 598 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 2: Mariaojosa next time on Latino USA. The pandemic has upended 599 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 2: and jeopardized the education and future of many college students. 600 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 2: We hear from one of them, that's next time on 601 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 2: Latin US, saying