1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: The Chinese CDC was saying this in January twenty twenty. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: He knew it, he told Dear Diary, but to the public. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: He commissioned this paper called Proximal Origins, and in it 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: they go on and on saying it's timplausible that it 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: came from the lab and we're really convinced it came 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: from these wild animals in the marketplace. But that level 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: of dishonesty is really astounding. 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson. 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: Good Tuesday morning. 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 4: It's nice to have you with us on the forty 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 4: seven Morning Update, and we've got two big stories this morning. 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 4: First up, the House Judiciary Committee has issued a criminal 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 4: referral against Jack Smith over what they're describing as alleged perjury, 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: and I'll break that down for you. But then other 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 4: breaking news, we now have learned that Jack Smith obtained 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 4: text messages from at least forty four members of Congress, 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 4: spying on those members. It is a shocking story and 18 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 4: we have the details. Also in another shocking breaking news story, 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 4: Anthony Fauci apparently was absolutely obsessed with his new found 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: fame during the COVID pandemic when he was supposed to 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: be fighting to protect all of us. And his diary, well, 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: it's now been put out there for the public to read, 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 4: and what I have for you is going to blow 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 4: your mind. It's the forty seven Morning Update, and it 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 4: starts right now. 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: Story number one. 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 4: Well, let's start with a story that almost no one 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: thought they would ever hear. The man who spent years 29 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: trying to prosecute Donald Trump is now the subject of 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: a criminal referral himself. 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: That's right. 32 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: The House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan has formally referred 33 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: former Special Counsel Jack Smith to the Department of Justice 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: for possible prosecution, alleging that Smith made false statements to 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: Congress under oath during his testimony before the House Judiciary Committeecifically, 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: the referral were being told centers on whether Smith in 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 4: fact misled lawmakers when discussing what investigative records his office 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 4: obtained during that Trump witch hunt investigation. And that's where 39 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: the second bombshell comes into the story. We now are 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: being told because of recently released documents from Senate investigators, 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 4: they're now alleging that not only was Jack Smith spying 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 4: on members of Congress, but he was reading their text messages. 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: The investigative team has now obtained text message communications, they say, 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: involving forty four members of Congress. Now during its investigation 45 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: to President Trump, they decided to go phishing and they 46 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: wanted to read the messages of sitting members of Congress. Now, 47 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 4: those records were reportedly obtained through legal process directed at 48 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: the National Archives, rather than directly from the lawmaker's phones, 49 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 4: which is even more shocking. Now think about what this 50 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: action actually means with this revelation. For years, Americans were 51 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 4: told that these investigations were quote narrowly focused and carefully 52 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: controlled and insulated completely from politics. But now Congress is 53 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: looking at the story differently and asking a simple question. 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: Weather investigators quietly swept up these communications that were involving 55 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: more than forty four sitting members of the legislative branch 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 4: while also investigating the leading political opponent. 57 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: Of their administration, which was Donald J. Trump. 58 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: That is a shocking allegation. Something that would normally happen 59 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: in a communist country, or a socialist country, or a 60 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: Marxist country, a dictator would do something like this. Instead, 61 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 4: this was the weaponization of the United States government, the 62 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: deep state at the highest levels, and the FBI. Now 63 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: these are yes, not only extraordinary allegations, but according to 64 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 4: Chairman Jordan, the newly released documents appear inconsistent with Jack 65 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: Smith's congressional testimony, which is why these two stories now 66 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 4: come together. Smith's legal team strongly disputes the characterization, arguing 67 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 4: quote he answered questions truthfully about toll records and was 68 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 4: not denying that other records obtained through separate legal authorities existed. 69 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: In other words, are saying we're going to use the 70 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: fine print here now. Democrats on the committee have also 71 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 4: argued that the referral quote mischaracterizes Smith's testimony. The Justice 72 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: Department is not required to act on a congressional criminal referral, 73 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: to be clear, but regardless of where someone lands politically, 74 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: the larger issue is this, if federal prosecutors can obtain 75 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 4: communications involving not one, not two, not ten, not twenty, 76 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: but involving forty four members of Congress that we know 77 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,559 Speaker 4: of during an investigation of a presidential candidate who was again, 78 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 4: by the way, a former president of the United States 79 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: of America, that Americans deserve transparency completely about how that 80 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: even happened. And then the other question is what legal 81 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: authority was used, were there any safeguards in place at all? 82 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: And was Congress itself accurately informed about what happened afterwards 83 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: or where they lied to Now this really isn't just 84 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: about Jack Smith anymore. It's actually about truth in the 85 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 4: justice system as a whole. It's about whether investigators played 86 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 4: by the same rule as they expected everyone else to follow, 87 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 4: or go to jail if you didn't. And it's also 88 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: about political accountability. If you weaponize the American government to 89 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: go after your political opponent and then we find out 90 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 4: about it, is there any recourse or consequence? Now, for 91 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: years we've been wanting saching. Prosecutors pursued Donald Trump with 92 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: unprecedented aggressiveness. Now the same House committee that investigated those 93 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: actions is asking whether the Special Council himself may have 94 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: crossed multiple legal lines by allegedly giving misleading testimony to 95 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: Congress to cover up their actions, which could actually be criminal. 96 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 4: Now there's two things here that you also need to 97 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: take into consideration. Number One, politically, this is a remarkable 98 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 4: reversal from where we were. 99 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: And the second part of this is the media. 100 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: The media is completely silent on what I'm telling you 101 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: right now, ask yourself the question why prosecutors, by the way, 102 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 4: who once stood at the center of the biggest legal 103 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 4: cases against Donald Trump, they're now having to face these allegations, 104 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 4: face the music, face the fact that their own testimony 105 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: deserves criminal scrutiny. And Congress is correct that investigators secretly 106 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: obtained text messages involving forty four members of Congress while 107 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: the public was told a very different story. 108 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: Then this story is going to be about far more. 109 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: Than just one man, and that man obviously being the 110 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: man in charge, Jack Smith. It's also far bigger than 111 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: the one story that involves Donald Trump, which brings us 112 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 4: to where we are now. This is a new story, 113 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: and I think it's a story that's going to be 114 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 4: whether Americans can have any confidence at all that when 115 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: Democrats are in charge, that they're actually playing by the rules, 116 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: they're playing by the rule of the law. Or is 117 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: this now what happens when democrats get elected, they do 118 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: whatever they want to do, they throw out the legal standards, 119 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 4: and then they just lie to Congress while doing it. 120 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 4: This is about American confidence that justice is actually administered 121 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: fairly or transparently or equally regardless. 122 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: Of whose name is in the case. 123 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: Or we live in a country where democrats and the 124 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: socialist Marxists and communists hiding in our government can weaponize 125 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: our government to put their political adversaries in prison. Now, 126 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 4: this is exactly what actually happens in places like Russia. 127 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin for decades has either oft or arrested or 128 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 4: bankrupt or destroyed his political opponents. Many of them are 129 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: just straight up killed. We see this happen in Latin America. 130 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 4: We see this happen all over the world in our 131 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: history books. Where new leadership comes in, they take ultimate 132 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: power over the people. They control every aspect of the government, 133 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: and the first thing they do is they go after 134 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: their political opponents and throw them in jail so they're 135 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 4: no longer a threat to them. That is what the 136 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: Democrats did with Donald Trump. And apparently it wasn't just 137 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: Democrats in Congress, it was also the deep state as well. 138 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 4: Now this is going to move I have a feeling 139 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: pretty quick. We're going to find out a lot more, 140 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: but one thing is for sure. Forty four different members 141 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: of Congress were spied on by the Special Council the 142 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: FBI and the administration that was in charge at the time, 143 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 4: the Democratic Party. If you're a member of Congress right 144 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 4: now and you now have just found out that you 145 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 4: are one of the forty four he respied on, I 146 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: have a feeling you've got a lot of questions that 147 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 4: you want answered, and I expect you're. 148 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: Going to see a lot of this exploding on Capitol Hill. 149 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: Next story number two. 150 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: They say that fame can be one hell of a drug, 151 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: and no one loved that drug more apparently than doctor 152 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: Anthony Fauci. He was not a name that anyone knew 153 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: before the COVID pandemic, but by the end of it, 154 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: his name id in this country and honestly around the world. 155 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 3: Well it was superstar status. 156 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: We now know just how much Anthony Fauci is obsessed 157 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: with his image. 158 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,359 Speaker 3: The newly released. 159 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: Diary entries from doctor Anthony Fauci suggests that the former 160 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 4: White House COVID advisor became increasingly quote preoccupied with his 161 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: growing celebrity status, even as the coronavirus pandemic claimed tens 162 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: of thousands of American lives. The journals, released this past 163 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: weekend by Senator Rand Paul Chronicle Fauci's private thoughts during 164 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: the early months of the pandemic, when he served as 165 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 4: the nation's top infectious disease expert and a leading member 166 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 4: of the White House's Coronavirus Task Force. In an April seventh, 167 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, diary entry, when more than sixty thousand Americans 168 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: were already dead from COVID nineteen, Fauci wrote, quote, press 169 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: still hot and heavy about me, multiple stories per day 170 00:10:55,280 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: directly or indirectly involving me. Weeks later, on May twenty five, first, 171 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: Fauci described his national and international fame as explosive and 172 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: really unimaginable quote unquote. He also added that it was 173 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: quote not hyperbole to characterize his level of global recognition 174 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: by that way. By then, nearly eighty nine thousand Americans 175 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 4: had died from the virus, and he was excited about 176 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 4: everybody knowing who he was now. The diary also shows 177 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: Fauci receiving invitations tied to his newfound celebrity. In late 178 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: June twenty twenty, as daily US COVID nineteen cases climbed 179 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 4: to a then record forty thousand, he wrote that he 180 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: had been invited to appear on ABC's dancing with the stars. 181 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: Fauci also documented growing tension with President Donald Trump's White House, 182 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: writing that extensive media coverage was turning him into a 183 00:11:53,960 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: star that outshines his words, a star that outshines the president. 184 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 4: He recalled secret Service officers at the White House security 185 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 4: gates routinely recognizing his vehicle and waving him through without 186 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: requesting identification. And that is what power drunk sounds like. 187 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: In a diary, my friends, Now, despite the attention, Fauci 188 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 4: wrote that he had quote no desire to conflict with, 189 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: embarrassed or showed up Now. Of course, despite the attention, 190 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 4: Fauci wrote that he had quote no desire to conflict with, 191 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 4: embarrass or show up the potus and later decided to 192 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: stop participating in profile interviews. Now, Senator Paul releasing this 193 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 4: is pretty interesting. He's a longtime Fauci critic. He's also 194 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, 195 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: and he released the diary entries days before Fauci is 196 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: scheduled to testify before the committee under a subpoena issued 197 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: by the Kentucky Republican. Senator Paul argues that the journal 198 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 4: a senior public health official overly focused on his public 199 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: image and media profile during one of the nation's worst 200 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 4: public health crisises. Quote Anthony Faucia answered to the American people, 201 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: Paul wrote in a June twenty eighth post on x 202 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 4: accusing federal health officials of prioritizing self promotion and media 203 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: narratives during the early months of the pandemic over telling 204 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: you what was actually happening. Now, the takeaway from all 205 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: of this for me is actually pretty simple. It is 206 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: clear that Anthony Fauci was obsessed with his fame. He 207 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: was obsessed with being the center of attention. He was 208 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: obsessed with doing interviews and being on the cover of 209 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: magazines and newspapers. 210 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 3: He was obsessed with the. 211 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: Countless stories that were coming out each and every day 212 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 4: around him. He was a man that was drunk on 213 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: his own supply. And doctor Ratchet now is gonna have 214 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: to answer these questions. Was he actually focused on saving 215 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: American lives or was he more focused on, well, how 216 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: big a star was getting in America and around the world. 217 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: Only Anthony Fauci, by the way, can you answer that question? 218 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: And this time it's gonna be under oath. 219 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to the forty seven Morning Update 220 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: with Ben Ferguson. Please make sure you hit subscribe wherever 221 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: you're listening to this podcast right now and for more 222 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: in depth news, also subscribe to the Ben Ferguson podcast 223 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here tomorrow