WEBVTT - Dylan Round's Body Found, Squatter Charged 0:00:00.920 --> 0:00:02.920 Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.920 In the last weeks, a major break in the case 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:17.720 of a teen boy farmer who goes missing. That's right, 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:25.800 Dylan Rownds goes missing, just nineteen years old. He wanted 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.280 to start his own farm in Idaho, and he had 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:35.400 just planted the first crop on his land in Utah 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:41.559 and then vanishes. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories, 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:42.760 Thank you for. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:43.559 Being with us. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:50.160 We learn that a Utah squatter is taking a plea 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:55.440 deal in the murder of a teen boy farmer. 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:57.480 This as he. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:05.520 Leads detectives to skeleton remains his mom explaining how her 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:11.040 missing son's cell phone helped crack the case and lead 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:16.560 to the squatter's arrest. Young Dylan just scrubbed in sunshine, 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:20.800 never had a bad word four. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:21.839 Or two anyone. 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.200 His last known contact was with his grandmother, telling her 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.720 over the phone he had to put his grain truck 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:32.919 in the shed because it was about drain. So how 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:39.040 did this wonderful boy end up dead? Well, the case 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:48.120 began to unravel when his remains are found. Who is 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.280 the so called squatter? It is a violent ex con 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.600 who had been squatting on property next to the land 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:01.559 owned by the nineteen year old bul the Cohn's name 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:03.800 James Brenner. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:05.760 What do we know? 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.000 Take a listen to our friends at Fox thirteen. This 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.320 land in Lucien, Utah might not look like much, but 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:14.680 to nineteen year old Dylan Rounds. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:15.280 It was everything. 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.320 This is the pond he dug out. He'd talked to 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.640 me about planting trees around it and stocking fish in it, 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.880 and just it was just one of his little dreams. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.840 Now it's been almost a week and a half since 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:30.280 dill In last returned to his camper. His dad, Justin 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.480 says his son was last seen Memorial Day weekend at 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:37.639 the Saddlesore Saloon, a bar thirty miles west of Montello, Nevada. 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:42.400 I'm convinced that it's foul play. Every vehicle he has 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.280 a retractor. Everything is accounted for and in place. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.440 One of the last conversations Dylan had with his dad 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.720 was about his excitement for the crop he had just planted. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.120 He wanted to see it grow. He wasn't gonna leave. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.120 There was nothing that was going to take him away 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:56.519 from here. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.760 You know, think of the thing you love them in 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:01.360 the world. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.080 I know what it is. It's my children, John, David 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:11.840 and Lucy. Nothing within my power could separate me from them. 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:13.280 Now. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:20.280 I grew up in farmland, and a farmer loves his 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:27.959 or her land. It's a love I can't even describe. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:36.080 And this teen boy, Dylan Rounds loved his land. His hopes, 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.160 his dreams, his plans, his futures all. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:45.040 Wrapped up in that land. So why would he leave it? 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:47.040 He wouldn't. 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.000 With me an all star panel to make sense of 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.400 what we know right now about the disappearance of this 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.480 teen boy, Dylan Rounds. But before I introduce them, I 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.960 want to go to a very special guest joining us. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:06.320 This is Dylan's mother, Candice Cooley. Miss Kelly, thank you 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:07.080 for being with us. 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.000 You're welcome. Thanks for having me. 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:09.720 Miss Coolly. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:14.520 Before I get into the entire story about what you've 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.800 been through and what your family's discovered so far in 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:20.039 the search you did, I want you to tell me 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.680 about the moment you realize Dylan is missing. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.839 So it was Memorial Day, Monday, May thirtieth, and Dylan's 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.840 friend JD called me around eleven o'clock. I was working 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.760 in my office and asked if I had heard from Dylan. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.440 And I said no, and he said, well, Karen called 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.400 and said they haven't heard from him from Saturday. Now, 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.000 it is not typical for Dylan to go two or 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.440 three days without talking to him, but he always talks 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:49.040 to either myself, his father, Justin, or his grandparents. So 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.000 when we put together that he had not talked to 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.560 any of us, that's when I instantly knew, because he's 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.200 always in contact with one of the three. And my 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.479 husband and I packed up and headed down because I 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.200 knew they just and especially where he had been planting. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.800 He was just trying to finish up before the rain 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.599 because there was rain, and we send that weekend to 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.640 make sure his crop was in. And I knew because 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.680 he should have called us all and been like I finished, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.960 it's done, I got it in, you know, and the 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.880 rain's going to get on it. This is great. And 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:26.200 nobody had heard anything since Saturday morning, May twenty eighth, 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:27.560 at six fifty one. Am. 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:32.080 Okay, how are you pinpointing that time? Saturday morning at 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:32.960 six fifty one? 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.920 Phone record of phone records yep, okay, And what does 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:38.080 that fine record reveal? 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.760 So he'd called he was talked to his grandmother actually, 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.960 and she called him and he said, I can't talk. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.440 You know, I got to get my seed truck, my 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.359 grain truck. He has a ten wheeler full of his 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.000 trio to Kaylee seed. I got to get it. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:51.480 In the shed. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.520 It's raining because you know the rain, well, we're in 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.520 the seed. He had a tarp on it, but it 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.320 wasn't the best tart there was hole. So he was 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:01.039 just trying to protect his feed and take it to 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.719 the shop, the little shed that's five miles away to 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.479 protect it. And then he said, I'll call you back, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.160 and nobody has heard from him, Sam. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.880 And that was six point fifty one am on May 0:06:13.920 --> 0:06:17.479 twenty eight, correct. And May twenty eight was what day 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.960 of the week, Saturday, So he was working on Saturday 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.680 morning before seven am. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.960 Correct. Always I get up, breathing and get going. A 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:26.240 lot of. 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.880 People don't can't connect with farmers hours. We grew up 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.560 on farmers hours, so I'm up every day at least 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:37.760 at five. But most people are on you know, they 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.679 were revolve it around going to school and work. Correct, 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.600 But it's not typical. It is typical for him to 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.440 be up very early in the morning. So speaking to 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.360 his grandmother at six fifty one am would have been normal. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:53.080 Correct, And the only time you know he sleep in 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.240 and beat if he was up bail and hair, all right, 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.120 you know, he won't doesn't go to bed till four 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.160 in the morning, five in the morning, you know, so 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.240 he'll sleep till eight. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.120 You know, that's a pretty big endeavor for a nineteen 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.960 year old boy to be running his own farm. 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:07.760 How did that happen? 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.720 So his grandfather and him partnered on this farm where 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.400 the family farm is with his fathers up in eastern Idaho, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.320 the Idol Falls area, and ground is just too expensive. 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:22.680 So Dylan's always done custom work since he was sixteen, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.360 you know, working for farmers. He got a tractor, he 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.720 got a baylor, he go do custom work, and he's 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:30.160 been saving and saving, and so him and his grandfather 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.679 partnered on this farm so that he could start doing 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.840 his own the last couple of years, you know, he 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.120 hauls beats in a semi, a full semi in Idaho 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.160 you don't have to have a CEO or be twenty one. 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.360 He's done that for two years. So he's been constantly 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:49.120 saving money, you know, so that he can work towards putting. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.640 His crop in what is custom work, So. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:57.000 That's bailing somebody else's hey, hauling somebody else's product, swathing 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.160 somebody else's hey. Also just doing the same exact work, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.440 but doing it with your equipment. But it's somebody else's crop, gotcha. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.680 But now he's doing his own thing on that landy 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.160 and his grandfather partnered on, right, He. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:09.960 Still does both. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.600 So he spent half of the spring helping the wine 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:15.800 Cup Gamble tear out some ground. He drilled all of 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:19.520 their grain to make money to be able to purchase 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:21.480 the seat and do everything on his own farm. So 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.040 he still does both. I mean the kid works all 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.480 the time. The only time he gets a little bit 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.360 of free times a winner when you can't farm. 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:32.480 To doctor Jory Crawls and joining me, psychologist faculty Saint 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:37.599 Leo University and author of Operation Soos, Doctor Jory. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.920 Thank you for being with me. I'm listening to Kennie Coolly. 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.800 This is Dylan's mom, and I'm learning something about him. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:49.080 And this is very important to the investigation. And I'll 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.240 ask Deputy Chief Elwood and Justin Borman to jump in 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:56.440 on this. But if you trust somebody to come on 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:01.240 your farm and harvest your crop, tear up your ground 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.640 air eight. Tear up your ground, prepare your ground, bring 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:10.480 in the crop. That is a very trustworthy, reliable person. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.080 Somebody that's up at four and five in the morning, 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.480 works till four am bringing in a crop. That tells me, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.040 this is not like a lot of people that go missing. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.000 They're out on the street, they're doing drugs, they're in 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.320 crack houses, they're at a bar till three o'clock in 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:31.600 the morning. You don't know who they're coming in contact with. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.280 You see what I mean. This is not a high 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:40.679 risk life. It's a hard working life. Somebody trustworthy that 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:44.120 people want on their farm. I mean, you got to 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.440 really trust somebody to have them on your farm, possibly 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:51.040 with your equipment and your land and your crop. That's 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:55.240 your future, that's your money for the whole next year 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:56.200 is that crop. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.440 And people would bring this nineteen year old boy in 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:04.440 to do a man's work. That's very un I tell 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:06.120 you what tail me, Candice. 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.800 He started so when Dylan was fourteen fifty thirteen fourteen fifteen, 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:12.920 he was so frustrated because no farmer could hire him 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:17.000 because of workman's comp issues in Idaho. So when he 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.760 turned sixteen, he was so happy. We have a huge 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.920 potato farmer here named Albert Lockwood, and they hired Dylan 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.680 at sixteen to come drive a crossover. So your crossover 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.360 digs a whole bunch of rows of potatoes, puts them 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:35.079 into one single road so that the main harvester can 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:36.920 come over. You know, you don't have to do so 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.840 much work. It just cuts down some of the work. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.280 That's the pictures of him on the tractor I put 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:45.960 on Facebook. Sixteen years old, and you have Albertson OLDI 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:49.440 gentleman in late seventies. I'm not exactly sure you have 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:52.680 him who's done potatoes his whole life, saying this is 0:10:52.760 --> 0:10:55.240 one of the best operators I've ever had. 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:03.960 Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:12.640 Dylan Round's a teen boy farmer from Idaho, set out 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.640 on his own in Utah and was expecting his very 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:22.959 first harvest when he vanishes seemingly into thin air. Then 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.840 we hear a fifty nine year old James Brenner, who 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.480 once shot a man at a Maryland campground in the 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:36.800 nineteen eighties over a work dispute. He's out walking free. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.480 He was squatting on the land next to Dylan's property, 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:46.480 and it was there authorities found Dylan's boots and farm truck. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.120 We learned this from court documents. They then found blood 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:56.000 on one of the boots, including Brenner's DNA. Now this 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:00.319 is according to the criminal complaint. Dylan's mother has been 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:06.400 through pure hell. Renner's past criminal history also includes malicious wounding, 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:11.520 malicious shooting, and three prior convictions for fell in a 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:12.800 possession of a firearm. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:14.760 He had no work. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:19.240 History, was unemployed, and had no verifiable residence. He was 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.840 trespassing and squatting on property near Dylan's. 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.280 What more do we know? 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.079 You got to really trust somebody to have them on 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.760 your farm, possibly with your equipment and your land and 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.640 your crop. So, doctor Jory, that's telling me a lot 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.000 about where is Dylan. It's not that he's out in 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.320 some bar, getting beaten up in a parking lot or 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.520 overdosing in drugs and on drugs and an alley. 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:47.160 That's not what has happened. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.720 No, not at all. You know, I'm a behaviorist and 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.320 we always say if you want to predict future behavior, 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.520 you have to know past behavior. And look at his 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.760 last three years. I mean, he is a very diligent 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:03.040 dedicated worker. He's very organized. He's got a schedule, he 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.640 sticks to it, even the time his free time he's 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.920 gone to visit friends, and he's back to be able 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:14.320 to work that that's right in the morning. So you know, 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.200 for him all of a sudden to be removed from 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.800 that schedule, there had to be an outside forced to 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:22.560 remove him. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:26.240 You're hearing the voice of doctor Jory Crawsin and Dylan's mother, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.880 Candace Cooley. Now take a listen to Emily Tensor. 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.760 The Box Elder County Sheriff's Department and Weber County Fire 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.679 and Rescue searched the area last week, along with helicopters, 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:42.880 a plane, and search parties on foot, ATVs and horses. 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.120 They call off the search Box Elder because they were 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.800 ninety five percent sure there's nothing, no sign of Dylan 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.680 out in the three by five mile area. 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.120 His boots were found five miles west of his camper. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:00.599 I'll never forget the look on Kndas's face, but I 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:02.640 could only imagine what I looked like when we saw 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:03.280 those boots. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.280 Each day is agony for his family who live all 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.240 the way up in Idaho. They're offering a twenty thousand 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.280 dollars reward to bring Dylan home. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.720 I just came back today just to kind of poke 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.760 around because I can't hardly leave here at twenty thousand 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:19.320 is burning a hole in my pocket. I want to 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:20.080 spend today. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.680 If you know anything about Dylan's disappearance, his family is 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.320 begging you to call police. He's five to ten, weighs 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.080 around one hundred and sixty pounds, with brown hair and 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:30.840 brown eyes. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:37.680 This is such a good, good boy, you know, willieve me? 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.160 Take a listen to Dave mac crime online. 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:43.800 Dylan Rownds has been a farmer since he was a 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.400 little boy. From the time he could walk, he would 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.280 try to keep up with his dad and grandpa as 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:51.320 they worked downside. Dylan could drive a tractor by himself 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.920 before most kids his age could ride a bike. When 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.720 he was ten years old, Dylan was growing pumpkin patches 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.960 and sweetcorn to sell. Citizens of the Rigby community knew 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.960 every summer there would be Dylan sweetcorn for sale under 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:06.640 the County Line overpass. Dylan attended Brigby High School and 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.400 began farming grain a few years ago in the desert 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.600 town of Loos in Utah near the Utah Nevada border. 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.800 And you know a lot of people Dylan's age, so 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:19.440 I will get excited about the game that Friday night 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:23.600 or or something happening in their social. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.520 Yeah, and Dylan go ahead. He never did any that. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:29.600 He wasn't the football game kid. He wasn't. He didn't 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.480 socialize in any of that. I mean, Dylan. It worked 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:34.880 out perfect for Dylan because he was doing online school 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.760 so he could farm, and then COVID hit and he 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.480 was the right age that he could drop out because 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.760 he was working. So Dylan, I mean, and yes, his 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.880 father and I didn't like the fact that he dropped out, 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:48.080 but the fact of the matter is there was no 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.760 stopping a kid. There was no stopping him. There was 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.800 nothing we could do to stop him from going to farm. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.000 That's all he wanted to do. He also, you take 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:00.920 a kid who doesn't even know how to play video 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.840 games in his generation, and that summed it all up. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.200 Wow, doesn't know how to play video games? That really 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.840 does sum it up? What would make Dylan Rounds happy? 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:16.160 This team boy take a listen to Dave mattcrimeonline dot com. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:18.600 Dylan lives by himself in a camper trailer on a 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:21.880 remote piece of land in Lusen. Family members last heard 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:24.760 from him when he called his grandmother the morning of Saturday, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:27.920 May twenty eighth. Dylan had been busy getting his crops 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.680 in and was really excited about recent rain, but a 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.200 little down because the rain prevented him from getting all 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.080 of the planting done. With the rain putting a damper 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.160 on his farming activity, Dylan drove thirty miles to the 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.640 town of Montello, Nevada, where he was seen on a 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.960 Moyal Day weekend. When family members realized Dylan had not 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.080 been in contact since he spoke to his grandmother, they 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:50.200 began trying to get in touch with him. Failing that, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:52.880 the family went to the farm and immediately called law 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:53.840 enforcement for help. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.440 Joining you right now special guests Nate Eaton, our friend, 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.080 the colleague and news director of East Idaho News dot com. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.879 You can find them on Twitter at Nate news Now. Nate, 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:08.120 start at the beginning, don't leave anything out. 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:08.520 Well. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.240 As Candace said, this all started when Dylan spoke with 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.880 his grandmother that Saturday morning. He said, I gotta get 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:15.479 got to get off the phone so that I can 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.400 get this seed in. And then by Monday morning, when 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.880 the family had not heard anything from him. They drove 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.359 to the farm. What's interesting is when I spoke with 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:27.200 kandas the other day Nancy, Dylan's pickup truck was still there, 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.720 but it appeared as if it had been pressure washed. 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:33.720 It was clean, but it had been raining and it 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.240 was muddy in that area. So somehow that truck got 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:41.480 clean and was left there right outside of Dylan's camp 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:43.280 camp or where he was sleeping. 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.320 I don't like that. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.359 And Candace Coolly, I hear you jumping in, guys, this 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:49.320 is Dylan's mother. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:51.200 She's saying that the. 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:55.200 Truck looked pressure washed. And I just heard Candace say 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.879 that there were no tracks, and you think there would 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:59.479 have been since it had been raining. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.480 But also, so tell me about the seat position. 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.440 A lot of you may remember the Tara Grinstead cases, 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:11.679 gorgeous teacher down in South Georgia who goes missing. Well, 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.520 one thing that jumped out at me when we first 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.840 learned Tara was missing. I was talking to her mother 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:21.159 about it was that her seat position was not where 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:24.520 she would have had. It was way back like when 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.360 I'm five to one, when I get in the car. 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.600 My husband, who was six ' three has been in 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.440 the car. In the car, I have to push it 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:35.359 up right, same thing here, right, Cannae. 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.520 Cooley, Yes, exact, same thing. And I am forur eleven 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.560 and Dylan is between five ten and five eleven, and 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.320 he is all late. His seat is all the way back, 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.560 his steering was up, and it was I could drive it. 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.240 I could have comfortably drive it without movies the seat. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:53.800 So that's not right at all. 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.879 And there were no tracks behind the pickup. It was 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.359 muddy when myself and my husband and his father and 0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:07.280 our daughter Brooklyn pulled in. We left tracks on Monday. Still, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.840 if that pickup would have moved Saturday, there would have 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:15.080 been tracks. Also, there's no footprint anywhere around that camper. 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.760 And we were told the two gentlemen that worked with 0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:21.960 Dylan were well. The one helped him off and on 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:25.960 went out to the farm to find Dylan, walked around 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.520 the pickup, walked around the camper, tried to you know, 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:34.159 what's going on. Why didn't they leave footprints? We were 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:35.560 leaving footprints on Monday. 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:36.159 You know. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:41.800 Kurt Nurmi joining me as you know him, renowned defense attorney, 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:46.240 cast member wrought Radical Body Transformation Season three, Amazon Prime 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.160 and author of trapped with miss Arias. You will remember 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.080 him from defending Jody Arias. Kurt Neerm, I'm not holding 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:54.880 that against you, isn't it true? 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:55.600 Kurt Nurmy? 0:19:55.600 --> 0:20:00.600 How one detail we're talking about his truck learned so 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.000 much from one piece of evidence? 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:03.720 Kirtin Army. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.000 Yeah, you know, Nancy. When I think about this truck 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.119 and the possible pressure washing and the movement of the seat, 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:13.600 I wonder about how far it travels. Did somebody have 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.160 to buy gas in order to get this vehicle around? 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.960 How many gas stations are there in town? Have they 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:22.800 been looking really one? Have these workers been questioned? So 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:25.399 there's not too many people in this circle. You know, 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:28.840 this is an industrious young man, passionate about his farming. 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.040 He's not going to be distracted by too much. And 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.159 we know that he had these two workers. And I 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.359 don't know if the gas station, if there's footage, what 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.679 have you, But there should be some follow up on 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:42.960 those things because those practical things that stem from the truck. 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.880 Where was a pressure wash? Is there a car wash somewhere? 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.080 Did somebody have? All these things need to be looked at. 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.679 No, there's no car washing. Montella was a count of 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.040 two hundred people in the middle of nowhere. Dylan has 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.520 a pressure washer on his farm for his equipment. 0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:05.760 Okay, so it could have been that Crime Stories with 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:06.600 Nancy Grace. 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:13.280 The case of the disappearance of Dylan arounds a teen 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.159 boy from Idaho who struck out on his own to 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.600 be a farmer in Utah. It's all unraveling. According to 0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:25.160 a neighbor identified in court documents. At some point after 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.879 Dylan goes missing, the perp Brenner asks the neighbor to 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:34.280 conceal three black powder guns and a twenty two caliber 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:38.000 rifle that did not have a serial number. When contacted 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.480 by the FBI, the neighbor handed over the weapons. With 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.959 that Brennan was charged with felon in possession of a firearm. 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.560 You know, compare him to Dylan Rounds, who struck out 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.240 on his own as a teen to build his own 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:58.119 farm in Utah. He loved working the land. He spent 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:02.640 zero time with video game james, zero time on social media, 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:07.639 and he never used drugs. I mean, talk about scrubbed 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.040 in sunshine. 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.080 What more do we know? Now? 0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:15.639