1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: What's up and welcome back to Cardinal Territory. I'm Katie Wu. 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: He's Trevor Rosenthal. As always, we're just happy to be here. Trevor, 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: how are you. How's how's your Monday going? 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: Yeah? 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 3: Same, I'm I'm super happy to be here, Katie. Been 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 3: looking forward to this, you know, every time we record 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: and talk Cardinal Baseball, I'm getting more and more excited. Obviously, 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: this season is drawing near. It may not feel like 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: it in Saint Louis. 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: It seems to be. 11 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: Rather cold and snowy right now, doesn't quite feel like baseball, 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: but we're getting closer every day. 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Yes, for those of you in Saint Louis, I am 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: so sorry. I hope you are staying warm. I was 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: actually I've been in California and visiting my family for 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: the holidays, and I'm supposed to come back this week, and 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: then I saw the weather report and I said, maybe not. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: So I'm still in northern California. Not to rub it in, 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: but it is sixty five degrees and sunny and beautiful, 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: and maybe I'll play golf tomorrow. Who knows. Trevor, how's 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: the weather out there in Texas? How's it like for. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 3: You, Yeah, this is the time of year where it 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: pays off to live in Texas, much like California. 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: You know. 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: Over the years, like I always spent my off seasons 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: in Saint Louis, especially while I was playing for the Cardinals, 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: and it always made me, like, you know, when I 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: went down to spring training in February, I would always 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: think to myself, why do I stay in the Midwest 30 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 3: in the wintertime. 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: It's so nice down here south? 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: And I understand why people make that move or temporarily 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: relocate for the winter time, called snowbirds whatever. But Texas 34 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: is great right now, and yeah, no snow. It's about 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: a little bit colder. We had a little bit of 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: a cold front. It's about fifty degrees down here in Houston. 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: But not the teens that I've seen from my friends 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: up in Saint Louis, and I saw some video from 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: them out their front door and it looks like they 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: weren't going anywhere today. They were pretty much snowed in. 41 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: Yes, I think that's like the one good thing about 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: a snow day is you have every excuse to not 43 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: do anything and not leave your house. And that is 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: how I embrace January in Saint Louis. I just don't 45 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: ever leave, and before you know what, we will be 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: in Jupiter, Florida. I know this because this morning I 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: booked my spring training like Airbnb, my rental car, all 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: of that is done. So we are officially getting closer 49 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: and closer to baseball. So that's exciting. Unfortunately for Cardinals 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: fans and Cardinal Nation, not a lot going on at 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: the moment. But we did hear from Cardinals President of 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Baseball Operations John Moselak. He talked to KMOX Tom Ackerman 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday and gave us a little update on the 54 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: Nolan Ornado front. He said, spoiler alert, it's very quiet, 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: went out and told Tom Ackerman as well. He said 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: that if the Cardinals have the ability to find Nolan 57 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: a place he desires, it's something we are going to 58 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: try to do. If not, he will have to be 59 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: a club move forward. So okay, what does that mean 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals in the short term? It means if 61 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: you are pretty much over the lack of news, then 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: you would like really get invested in something happening with 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: the Ornado front, because if the Cardinals can't really do 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: anything until they know what they're doing with Nolan, and 65 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: that was a fine storyline in November and December where 66 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: I think everyone, whether you were front office, media, player, fan, 67 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: could kind of understand in November and December why the 68 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals had to be patient. It's January sixth as we're 69 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: recording this, this will ra tomorrow January seventh, and the Cardinals 70 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: are still in the exact same place. They have not 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: really made any kind of moves. And the reason that that's, 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, why they've unfortunately been kind of hindered by that, 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: is because they cannot really figure out what they're going 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: to do until they know what their finances look like. 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: And they will not know what their finances look like 76 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: until they know what's going on with Nolan Arnado. So 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: this is why if I am a member of the 78 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals, if I'm a Cardinals fan, if I'm 79 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: a baseball fan in general, all eyes for me are 80 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: going to be on Alex Bregman's free agent market. Here's 81 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: why Alex Bregman has down three teams. Citing the reports 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: from Mark finestand of MLB Great Guy, Great Reporter says 83 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: that there are three teams left in the Alex Bregman 84 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: sevestakes that we know of. They are the Detroit Tigers, 85 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays, and the Boston Red Sox. Now, 86 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: if Alex Bregman signs with the Tigers or the Blue Jays, 87 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: the Red Sox could pivot right, They could pivot and say, hey, 88 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: we missed out on a premier third baseman, the best 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: available third basement in the market. Why don't we go 90 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: see if we can trade for another great their basement. 91 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: But if Alex Berdman goes to the Red Sox, Trevor, 92 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: where is Nolan Arnaudo gonna go? Is he gonna stay 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: in Saint Louis? 94 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: It would seem that way, Katie. 95 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 3: I'm i'm I'm envious of these large market they're big 96 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: market teams and their ability to go out and sign 97 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: these free agent players. But yeah, I mean, what what 98 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: are the implications? I know, you know you mentioned mozay 99 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: Loac and Camox and Ackerman. I agree Ackerman. I really 100 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: enjoy working with him and seeing all that he does 101 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: over there, But yeah, what do you think? 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: What does this? 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: What happens if if Aaron Otto would know we've talked 104 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 3: about it, But if he ends up being in Saint Louis. 105 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 3: Does that disrupt the potential off season plans that they 106 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: might have. 107 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: I think it does. I think it does, and I 108 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: the reason why is because I think both Moe and 109 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: Nolan were pretty confident that a trade could have been made. 110 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: And remember in the beginning of the off season, they 111 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: were both very agreeable about why this was the best 112 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: situation for both parties. This is not something that Nolan said, Hey, 113 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to be here anymore, get me out 114 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: of here, and this is not Moe saying we're trading you. Regardless, 115 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: both parties saw the future of the Cardinals, where the 116 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: team is trending, and said it's probably best for both 117 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: of us if we part ways, a very amicable breakup. 118 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: Not that I know anything about those. However, as we 119 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: get closer and closer spring training, Nolan's market is getting 120 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: smaller and smaller. He vetoed a trade to Houston, which 121 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: is his right. We've talked about that on Foul Territory 122 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: on this show as well. Doesn't seem like the Dodgers 123 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: were in play, He's been There's been speculation to the Yankees, 124 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: but they don't really seem to be fully into it. 125 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: The mystery about the Boston Red Sox is we don't 126 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: really know what they want other than maybe adding another 127 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: right handed bat. They already traded for Garrett Crochet, but 128 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: how they want to try to maybe increase their offense 129 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: if they if they miss on Alex Bregman, could they 130 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: get Nolan maybe, But the Cardinals can't bang on that. 131 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: They can't bet on Nolan not being here next year. 132 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: So everything else is kind of on standstill, and there 133 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: are things the Cardinals want to do. You know. They 134 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: were trying to look at maybe improving something on the 135 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: pitching side, whether it was getting some depth in the 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: rotation or depth in the bullpen. Now, these weren't going 137 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: to be like blockbuster signings, but they were going to 138 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: be free signings. Nonetheless, if Nolan Arnatto stays, they have 139 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: to get creative and move the money from that. They 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: were potentially planning to move off the books with the 141 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 1: trade of Nolan from somewhere else, whether that's tregging Eric Fetty, 142 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: Stephen Matz maybe revisiting this is all speculation from my part, 143 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: this part here revisiting Sunny Gray, seeing if he is 144 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: like still wants to be here, revisiting Ryan Helsley just 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: kind of seeing what's going on because they have to 146 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: move the money from some part. That's part one, part two. 147 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: They also are kind of blocking their whole youth movement, 148 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: right because you have two veterans on the corners. Now, 149 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: if Nolan stays, you have contraras at first, you have 150 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Nolan Arnatto at third. Where is Nolan Gorman going to play? 151 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Where is Alec Berlson going to play? You go down 152 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: the list. Was Thomas to jac going to be on 153 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the opening day roster? Hard to say, right, So to me, 154 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: it just complicates everything else if Nolan stays. And that's 155 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: why I'm so invested in what happens on the Alex 156 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Bregman market. 157 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, you know, as a Cardinals front 158 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: office or if I'm a John mozayloc, I'm very hopeful 159 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 3: that a team like Boston, if they miss out, for example, 160 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: on on Alex Bregman, that they're very motivated to bring 161 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: in a player like Eronado and Saint Louis could benefit 162 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: from that. So I agree, it's all I should be 163 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: on Bregman, especially as it regards in regards to Nolan 164 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: Aeronado and and if I'm Nolan, I'm I'm also interested 165 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: in what happens with Bregman. I mean with Bregman. I mean, 166 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 3: if if we look at Nolan Aeronado's career, he's essentially 167 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: been the gold standard for a third basement in his market. 168 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: And to see what happens with Bregman, what team signs him, 169 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: what type of contract he gets. I don't know how 170 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: that will affect the psychology of Nolan Aeronado, but he's 171 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: certainly going to be cognizant of it, and it might 172 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: influence how he thinks about being traded in the potential 173 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: team that does make an offer to Saint Louis. 174 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: That's so interesting, right, Like the psychological element if Nolan 175 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: has like, hey, I thought I was getting traded. Now 176 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm stuck on it. I don't want to say stuck. 177 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to speak for him. But now I'm 178 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: back with the Cardinals and nobody wanted me. Nobody wanted 179 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: to trade for me, except for the Astros, which I 180 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: denied because I just didn't think I was ready. Now 181 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: everything is super complicated. I wonder what that does for 182 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: a player, because it can go one of two ways, right, 183 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: it can become a mental issue. You can compound it, 184 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: you can press, and that's never good for anyone, or 185 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: you channel into motivation and you pop off. And Nolan 186 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: has never really been one that you know, really hangs 187 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: his head and feels bad for himself if no one. 188 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: If he ends up staying with Saint Louis, he's going 189 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: to be a pro about it. I have zero concerns 190 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: about that. My concern if he stays is how are 191 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals going to move forward with their youth movement 192 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: as they'd like to advertise it, and how do they 193 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: figure out how what they in twenty twenty six with 194 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: someone that they actively tried and said publicly they wanted 195 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: to trade. It is a fascinating little development and it 196 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: to me kind of makes up for the fact that 197 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: there has been no other movement for the Cardinals. 198 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think the most likely scenario is one 199 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 3: like we saw with Houston. You know, the ownership and 200 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: front office group down in Houston. As soon as they 201 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: knew that Aeronatto wasn't an option, the next day they 202 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 3: go out and sign Christian Walker to a deal. And 203 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: I see that being the most likely scenarios in terms 204 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: of Nolan is when a team realizes that Bregman is 205 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: off the block and they no longer have that opportunity. 206 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 3: Most of the time, they still want to fill that 207 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: gap that they were trying to replace. And if er 208 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: not as the only option, I mean, I mean, we 209 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 3: still have Pete Alonzo out there, so you know, two 210 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: big corner infield free agents that have yet to be signed. 211 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: But once those guys are off the board, I think 212 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: they will really pick up. And that's another reason to 213 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: pay attention to this development. 214 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: Completely agree, and at least we know the Cardinals are 215 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: very motivated to trade Noblan. It's not something that they 216 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: themselves are dragging their feet on. They're just kind of 217 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: at the mercy of the rest of the industry. Let's 218 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: talk about the rest of the industry. There have been 219 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: a lot of free agent signings outside of Saint Louis, 220 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: but don't worry Cardinals fans. The Cardinals are not alone. 221 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: So as of Barbara court Day, Monday, January sixth, there 222 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: are six teams in Major League Baseball who have not 223 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: spent one single dollar in free agency. They are in 224 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: no particular order. Where is my lists there? It is 225 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: the Mariners, the Marlins, the Padres, the Brewers, the Twins, 226 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals. That is surprising. Now, granted, all six 227 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: of these teams are in different areas in terms of 228 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: their competition window and financially, but man, it's weird right 229 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: to not have to not hear that the Cardinals has 230 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: spent one dollar in free agency. So we'll leave the 231 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals aspect out of this next question, Trevor, But talking 232 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: about MLB at all, like, overall, what's been your favorite 233 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: free agent signing? 234 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's been a roll in the market in 235 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: terms of just like the middle to bottom tier in 236 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: my opinion, hasn't been a lot of signings, especially when 237 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 3: it comes to pitching. But the one that stands out, 238 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk about it because it's it's a pretty 239 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: astonishing to see the type of contract that this player signed, 240 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: Juan Soto to the New York Mets. Man talk about 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: a big time contract for a great player. I mean, 242 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: I played with Wan Soto in twenty nineteen and I 243 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 3: have nothing bad to say about the guy. He's a 244 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 3: tremendous player, tremendous teammate, tremendous human being, and I'm super 245 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: happy for him. But man, to see that type of 246 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: deal get done. I know it can't be easy, but 247 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: it's exciting. If I'm a Mets fan going into this 248 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: season and really going into the next decade, I am 249 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: pumped right now. But that's probably not even my most favorite. 250 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: It's my most favorite in terms of dollars, like I 251 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: would trade places with wan O in uh in receiving 252 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: you know, paychecks for sure. 253 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 2: But I think the Yankees have done. 254 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: The New York Yankees have done a great job of 255 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: kind of responding to losing a player like Soto. Obviously, 256 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: they signed Paul Goldschmidt, who we're all gonna miss. I 257 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: think Max Freed was another great signing to add into 258 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: their rotation. But then kind of under the radar a 259 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: couple of trades they made, bringing in closer Devin Williams 260 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 3: and uh and an. 261 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: Outstanding left handed bat and Cody Bellinger. 262 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: So I think for me, I'm most impressed with what 263 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: the Yankees have done. And then a side note to 264 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: that would be a player that I've always admired, a 265 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: starting pitcher with the with the Texas Rangers, Nathan Valdi. 266 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: I was really happy to see him get another long 267 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: term contract. 268 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: He's had an outstanding career. 269 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, with the with the Yankees have done, with 270 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: what the Rangers have done, sign and bringing back a Valdi, 271 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: all some really impressive moves in my opinion. 272 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: What about you, Katie, What's been your big standout? 273 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: My big standout mainly because I was just so surprised 274 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: by this, But when we talk about like big free 275 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: agent spenders, we aren't talking about the A's. So that's 276 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: why I loved Luis Savarino's two year, sixty seven million 277 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: dollar contract to the No City Athletics. He has a 278 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: player option for twenty twenty seven. It is the largest 279 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: free agent contract the A's franchise has ever given out. 280 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: And why I liked this so much is there's been 281 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot of deserved negativity around A's ownership and the 282 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: move from Oakland to Sacramento. And I'm a Bay Area girl. 283 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: I know through and through what the A's mean to 284 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. Trevor, you were part of the A's 285 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, so you understand what that means there. 286 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: It's deserved where credit is due. The A's showed like, hey, 287 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: we're going to be playing in a minor league ballpark 288 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: for like X amount of years. And we were pretty 289 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: much other than the White Sox, the like worst team 290 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: in baseball in terms of overall vibes last year. But 291 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: we're going to try to change that around, and we're 292 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: going to spend money. So they go out and they 293 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: shell out their largest deal the Louis Severino. Happy for him, 294 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: super deserved, but they also showed that there is zero 295 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: excuse for not spending money. If the A's can do it, 296 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: so can you. I'm looking at twenty nine other teams, 297 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: well not the Mets they spent, the Dodgers they spent. 298 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking at like twenty seven other teams spend some money. 299 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: If the A's can do it, so can you. And 300 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I think maybe that's why there is frustration from the 301 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: six teams we listed earlier, right, Like the Brewers have 302 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: not spent a dollar, traded away their best closer to 303 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: the Yankees. Like you mentioned the Marlins rapid fire sales 304 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: dating back to really the last trade deadline. The Padres 305 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: A lot going on over there, don't I don't even 306 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: know how to make sense. Just saw the late Peter 307 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: Sidler's widow, the prior owner of the Padres, is suing 308 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: Peter Sidler's brothers. So that's that was some breaking news 309 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: on Monday. So yeah, there's a lot going on. But 310 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: my favorite free agent signing so far is than Luis 311 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Ever gonna to the A's because it showed that any 312 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: team can spend, so let's keep it up. 313 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 314 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: The only thing that could have made this offseason even 315 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: better following you know, talking about the Oakland A's, I was, 316 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: if I hadn't bet anybody I was after the sever 317 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 3: Reno signing up, They're gonna end up getting the number 318 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: one pick in the draft lottery. 319 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: That was what I was. 320 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: Thinking going into the Winter meetings is the A's are 321 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: gonna end up with the number one pick and they're 322 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: just gonna be the place to be over the next 323 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: few years. 324 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: A new team Vegas. I'm sure there's. 325 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: Gonna be a lot of excitement and new branding to 326 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: go along with it. And if I'm a player, I'm 327 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: thinking this is this is an interesting place to be 328 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 3: for the future. 329 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the A's are are kind of 330 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: on the rise. Dare I say I like Brent Rooker. 331 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: I think he's a baller. But they have some some 332 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: nice pieces coming up, and they also traded for Jeff 333 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Free springs from the Tampa Raye shortly after Severino. So 334 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: a team to watch because the Houston Astros the usual 335 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: powerhouse of the Al West, they are dramatically different this year. No, 336 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker probably know Alex Bregman. We'll see, So I'm 337 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: watching you, is all right? Will the Cardinals ever spend 338 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: in the free agent market? We don't know. We certainly 339 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: hope so. 340 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: But in a. 341 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: Perfect world, Trevor, again, we talked about this, They're going 342 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: to have to figure out the Nolan situation before if 343 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: they spend money. But in your ideal world, who is 344 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: the free agent you would go get right now? Still 345 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: available for the Saint Louis Cardinals. 346 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, depending on the Nolan situation between depending on their 347 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 3: budgets financially, there's probably not a lot that they're willing 348 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: or most likely going to end up doing. But I 349 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: kind of think back to my time in Saint Louis 350 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 3: and where I saw Saint Louis really thrive, at least 351 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 3: while I was on the team, is in signing those 352 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: middle relievers that maybe were coming off of a poor 353 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: season but had a nice track record, and they were 354 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: able to bring guys in a couple of guys that 355 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: come to mind, Pat Nyeshek, Edward Muhika, guys that they 356 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 3: signed for really just a major League invite and a 357 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 3: minimum salary and ended up being All Stars. 358 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: So my mind goes there. 359 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, if there's anything that Saint Louis Will will 360 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 3: have the ability to do, it would be signing a 361 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 3: player like that. And there's a there's a lot out there. 362 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: Actually a couple that I really am interested in. Two 363 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: guys that I've been teammates with. George Lopez, who bounced 364 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 3: around with a couple of teams last year. 365 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: I played with him in Kansas City. 366 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 3: It's a hard throwing right hander who has really taken 367 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: form in the last few years. He has a great arsenal. 368 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 3: He's put up good numbers, He's been pretty durable. I 369 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: think he's a guy that they should that they should 370 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 3: be considering. He could fit nicely into the back end 371 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: of the bullpen, give Helzley some help. And then another 372 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: one is is maybe not so obvious, is Tim Hill. 373 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: Tim Hill was with the New York Yankees last year, 374 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: left handed pitcher. 375 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: Another guy he's been thurbal. 376 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 3: He goes out there, he takes the ball and he 377 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: can he can deliver in high leverage situations and and 378 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: really just eat up innings. 379 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 2: To go along with that. 380 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: So those are my two guys that are options for 381 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: maybe under the radar, and then I have another two, Ktie, 382 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: if you don't mind having another two. 383 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: I want to know these other. 384 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 3: Two are are maybe exciting to our listeners that, in 385 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 3: my opinion, who are out there, who are options to 386 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 3: bring in in the bullpen. Maybe not cost a ton 387 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 3: of money, maybe a little bit more than Lopez or Hill. 388 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: But there's there's two familiar names Shelby Miller for one, 389 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: and Joe Kelly, two guys that are most likely at 390 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 3: the tail end of their careers coming off of decent seasons. 391 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: Joe Kelly was not as active as Shelby. Shelby had 392 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: a nice little run the last few years and really 393 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: has emerged as a solid bullpen option. But you know 394 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: two guys that I think are obviously familiar with Saint Louis. 395 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: But I think that the Saint Louis. 396 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: Front office should be entertaining and bringing in a veteran presence, 397 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: guys with a lot of a lot of experience not 398 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: only on the field, but also in the clubhouse, and 399 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: that's something to be aware of, you know, filling the 400 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: void in the clubhouse, a veteran players that can have 401 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 3: a good impact on this wave of hopefully a young roster. 402 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: That we're going to see in twenty five. What about you, Katie? 403 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: Did I steal any from you? 404 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: No? 405 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: I thought for sure you would, But I love you know, 406 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: the Cardinals love their veteran presence, and this makes a 407 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: lot of sense to get one of those guys because 408 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: outside of Halsley, it's a pretty young and inexperienced doesn't 409 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: mean they will be good. I actually still think the 410 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: bullpen will be good, but it's a young and an 411 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: experienced core nonetheless, So having one of those guys, I 412 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: think back to twenty twenty one. Andrew Millard wasn't like 413 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: lighting up the radar gun by any means, but he posted, 414 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: he took the ball when asked, and he basically showed 415 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: the young guys coming up. You're thinking, Jordan Hicks, You're thinking, Halsley, 416 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: what it meant to like pitch in high leverage situations 417 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: for the Saint Louis Cardinals. So I like it. I 418 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: definitely think your ideas are a lot more realistic than mine. 419 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: Mine is kind of a fever dream. I would love 420 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals brought back Kyle Gibson. And I think 421 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals would love if they brought back Kyle Gibson. Now, Okay, yeah, 422 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna say, well, they had their chance. They declined 423 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: their team option for him in twenty twenty five. Yes 424 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: they did. That team option was worth thirteen million dollars. 425 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Given where the Cardinals were in salaries that they had 426 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: promised already to other pitchers and their whole plan to 427 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: reduce payroll, it made sense to let both Gibson and 428 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: lanceln go. By declining those options, they cleared twenty five 429 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: million dollars off the books for next year. However, they 430 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: left the door open, and I think the Cardinals were, 431 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: you know, pretty honest with Kyle Gibson and saying, hey, 432 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: this is something we would like to revisit. This is 433 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: something we have to do now. But it doesn't mean 434 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: we're closing the door for good. And in a perfect world, 435 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals trade Nolan Arnatto and they're able to kind 436 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: of go out and revisit Kyle Gibson's market because I 437 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: don't think they actually really wanted to let him go 438 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. I think they wanted 439 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: to stay, and I think Kyle Gibson wanted to stay too. 440 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he called Saint Louis Home a Mazoo product. 441 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: He was great for this club in twenty twenty four. Awesome, dude, 442 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: Just stand up guy. He was voted the Good of 443 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: the Clubhouse Award for the Saint Louis Writer's Dinner. Tickets 444 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 1: still available. But like, I think what he brings to 445 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: the rotation last year would be so helpful in twenty 446 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: twenty five. And yes, I hear the clamor, Okay, if 447 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinals bring about Kyle Gibson, there's no room in 448 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: the rotation. Trade Stephen Mattz. Now we're talking so perfect 449 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: world Cardinals fever Dream trade and Olon Arnado trade. Stephen 450 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: Matts re signed Kyle Gibson. That is I think what 451 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: they're like. If I'm John mozaylack an idea that he's like, yeah, 452 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: I'd be on board with that. I just I don't 453 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: see the likely hood of that happening. The each day 454 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: that Nolan is not traded is another day that increases 455 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: the odds of all these guys signing elsewhere the Baltimore 456 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: Orioles need a picture. Kyle Gibson was great there too, 457 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: really liked, really well, liked, really receive in Baltimore, they also, 458 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, have missed out on a ton of pictures. 459 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: So I don't think Kyle Gibson will be available when 460 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: it comes time for the Cardinals to spend money, but 461 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: I would love it if he was. 462 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to imagine if Baltimore is interested in 463 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 3: a guy like Charlie Morton, they certainly have to be 464 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 3: interested in a guy like Kyle Gibson. 465 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 2: And I agree with you. 466 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: I think he would be a great fit to come 467 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 3: back into that clubhouse. Shameless plug Saint Louis Baseball Riders 468 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 3: dinner tickets selling out fast, Get yours now, come see us? 469 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 2: Am I hearing? Is Kyle going to be joining us? 470 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 2: Is he receiving an award as well? 471 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: Yes, he's on our rewards list. So I mean, what 472 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: more could you ask for? Right January nineteenth, downtown Saint Louis. 473 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: Maybe the snow will melt hang out with Kyle Gibson. 474 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: Meal doesn't get any better than that. 475 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: It could potentially be Yeah, and it's coming up quick 476 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 3: next weekend. 477 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 2: Am I right? Next weekend? 478 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, next weekend, next weekend. 479 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: We're going, Yeah, we're getting getting together up till that point. 480 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: Depending on what happens between now and then, maybe be 481 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: the most exciting event that happens this offseason for the 482 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: Saint Louis Cardinals. So pretty big deal. 483 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: In the sixteenth fifth Annual Saint Louis Baseball Writers Inner 484 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: is the place to be the hot topic of the 485 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: off season. Wow, look how far we've come to Trevor. 486 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: What a time to be alive. 487 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: Hey, they the fans should be thankful they have us. 488 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Honestly, and you know what I think we'll I think 489 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: we'll deliver. We'll put on a show. It should be 490 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,239 Speaker 1: really fun though, all jokes aside. Ozzie Smith will be 491 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: receiving the highest honor we offer with the ninet eighty 492 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: five team. Then all championship team will be recognized as well. 493 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: Bryan Helsley will be the Saint Louis Baseball Man of 494 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: the Year, of Mason Rookie of the Year, Brett Brendan 495 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: Donovan come Back Player of the Year, and we'll have 496 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: a ton of mighty legal awards to give out as well. 497 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: So it should be a really fun time. Tickets are 498 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: still available, but not many, so buy them today. Hopefully 499 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: we'll see you there, Trevor. We will be reunited in 500 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: less than two weeks. Winter warm Up coming on hot, 501 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: so hopefully it actually does warm up, because if I 502 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: step foot and eight inches of snow in Saint Louis, 503 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to be upset. 504 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 505 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever had warm weather, and all 506 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: the years that I've attended the Winter warm Up, it's 507 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: always been relatively cold or freezing cold. So don't get 508 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 3: your hopes up too, Hi, Katie. 509 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: I know, I know, very sad, but we'll make it work. 510 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: You can follow us on Twitter at card Territory. Like 511 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: can subscribe to our page on YouTube, find us on 512 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: Spotify and Apple. You know the drill. We I'll be 513 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: back on for Friday with a special guest that I'm 514 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: looking forward to announcing later, and trev will be back 515 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: next week. We hope we'll have some news for you 516 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: by then. But until then, each Trever Wasenthal, I'm Katie 517 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: who thanks as always for joining. We will talk soon.