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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show starts

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Speaker 2: right now Friday, December twenty second. Oh, my last show

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Speaker 2: for me of the twenty twenty three year, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a little roadmap of where

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Speaker 2: we're going. As many of you are putting the final

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Speaker 2: touches on the Christmas tree, or you get ready for

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Speaker 2: your your holiday. Maybe you're going to be on the road,

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Speaker 2: maybe you're going to be up in the sky, flying somewhere.

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Speaker 2: It's the most wonderful time of the year, as the

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Speaker 2: song goes, And I have been listening to more Christmas

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Speaker 2: music than I usually do because my wife likes Christmas music,

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Speaker 2: so I try to play it sometimes in the house.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lovely tree here. But to give you

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Speaker 2: a sense of where we're going, we're going to be

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Speaker 2: doing news and politics in this first hour, taking your calls,

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Speaker 2: and it's free for all on the calls, and you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe try to keep it somewhat topical. But if you've

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Speaker 2: got some insight or you really just want to call

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Speaker 2: in and tell me how much you have enjoyed the

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Speaker 2: show the past year. I don't know, I mean anything

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Speaker 2: like that, because it the last time we're chatting live

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Speaker 2: until the New Year. And as you know, our buddy

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Speaker 2: Michael Barry's in next week, so you're gonna have live

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Speaker 2: shows here going on for much of the week, and

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Speaker 2: that is going to be great. So Michael Barry will

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Speaker 2: be at the Helm. He'll do a phenomenal job as always,

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Speaker 2: and Clay comes back about I think Friday after the

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Speaker 2: New Year, so I'll be solo with you for almost

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Speaker 2: another week when we get back, and then we're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk to Clay about you know, the alligator tooth necklace.

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Speaker 2: I guess crocodile not alligator. Whoops, sorry, you know, because

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Speaker 2: he's crocodile. Dundee. You guys get what I'm going for

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Speaker 2: here with the Australia thing. But yeah, alligator if he wants,

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Speaker 2: I got an alligator guy here if he wants, you know,

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Speaker 2: alligator paraphernalia because Florida. We got a lot to get

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Speaker 2: into though in the in the news and politics realm

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Speaker 2: eight hunderd two A two two eight a two. We're

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Speaker 2: kicking the lines wide open. I want to chat with

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Speaker 2: you uh. And I want to tell you this first off.

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Speaker 2: I think they're recognizing that they've made a blunder, right,

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Speaker 2: worse than a mistake. It's a blunder. That's the quote.

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Speaker 2: People say it's taler Rand. I don't know, maybe it was,

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Speaker 2: uh not tali Rand. This is one of these one

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Speaker 2: of these things. It's attributed on the Internet by a

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Speaker 2: lot of people. But it's a good phrase anyway. Worse

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Speaker 2: than a mistake, it's a blunder. I think that the

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Speaker 2: Democrats are having a little moment here where they're saying

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Speaker 2: the plan is not going according to plan. I see

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Speaker 2: on CNN dot com. This is about Trump and the

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Speaker 2: legal assaults and the fourteenth Amendment gambit, all this stuff

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Speaker 2: that they're trying, it's not working. It's not working. And

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Speaker 2: for anyone who tells me I see, I see the

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Speaker 2: messages people saying they're playing right. You're playing right into

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Speaker 2: the Democrats' hands. I talk to you about the Trump trap.

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Speaker 2: I know that's a theory, that's a possibility, but as

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Speaker 2: I look at these numbers, to me, it just seems

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Speaker 2: like the other side has miscalculated. Right now, you know,

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Speaker 2: you're telling me they're running Biden's numbers to all time lows.

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Speaker 2: I think he just went up most recently in overall

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Speaker 2: their plan, I think, is what we're seeing, and the

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Speaker 2: plan is not yet working. There's the very real possibility

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Speaker 2: that Trump is going to evade indict I'm sorry, I

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Speaker 2: invade conviction in all four of those trials, and we

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Speaker 2: shall see, maybe not. I don't know. There's so many

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Speaker 2: and the guy hates Trump, Okay, which is not a surprise.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to write on cn dot com these days,

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Speaker 2: you got to be a Trump hater. But here is

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Speaker 2: just one and let me I'll give him credit. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's a very left wing guy. I'm gonna re Gamon Linker.

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Speaker 2: He is a fellow at the Open Society Project. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he is a left wing guy, Okay, But my point

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Speaker 2: here is this is his So what about the Trump

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Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment thing? The best outcome, he writes, of this episode,

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Speaker 2: would be for the US Supreme Court to strike down

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Speaker 2: the Colorado rulings swiftly and unambiguously making clear that for now,

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Speaker 2: no state will be permitted to disqualify Trump from seeking

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Speaker 2: or holding the office of the presidency. Trump and his

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Speaker 2: They can only be beaten at the ballot box. End quote.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think that some of the Libs are

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Speaker 2: I think they realize, as I said, it's worse than

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Speaker 2: that it's early. Some of you, I'm sure, are World

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Speaker 2: War One history buffs, right, I mean, I find World

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Speaker 2: War One fascinating, horrifying, terrifying, but fascinating period of history.

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Speaker 2: I feel like World War Two gets you know, in

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Speaker 2: part because there's more there's like more video footage. Also,

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Speaker 2: well there's a lot of reasons why, you know, sixty

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Speaker 2: all that. But world War Two, on like the History

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Speaker 2: That's all I'm trying to say, there's World War Two

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Speaker 2: just more. It's more in our our minds that you know,

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Speaker 2: shape the modern world even more. But World War One

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Speaker 2: think it's all really one very inter twined period of history.

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Speaker 2: And in World War One, the Germans had the UH

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Speaker 2: And if you've ever listened to hardcore history podcast on

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Speaker 2: his World War one podcast is his best of the

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Speaker 2: history podcasts. Of the Mongol one's pretty good too. But

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Speaker 2: the World War One you talk about the von Schleefen Plan, right,

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Speaker 2: The von Sleefen Plan was a German military strategist, Alfred

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Speaker 2: von Schleefen. You have to say his name like that,

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Speaker 2: with a big mustache. All those guys had big, bushy mustaches.

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Speaker 2: is its own concagion. Like everyone I've said, in this country,

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Speaker 2: everyone became bearded I've actually gone unbearded, as you know recently.

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Speaker 2: But everyone in America, all the guys, not everybody, but

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Speaker 2: you know, beards have become the thing. I think we're

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Speaker 2: gonna enter the mustache era next. I'm just saying, Magnum

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Speaker 2: But von Schleefen had this very intricate plan to go

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Speaker 2: it was incredibly precise, right, the movement of men, material, munitions, everything,

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Speaker 2: it was adjusted a little bit by Moltka, another German

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Speaker 2: well Moltka didn't use enough men, and so that was

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Speaker 2: the double envelopment, which I've talked to you about before.

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Speaker 2: The Roman Second Punic War, Hannibal defeats the Romans, that

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Speaker 2: by a double envelopment, meaning completely surrounded on all sides,

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Speaker 2: That was effectively with now guns and cannons, artillery pieces,

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Speaker 2: what Schleifen was trying to do to the French right,

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Speaker 2: always a challenge, right like and shinedung schlucked in, shindung

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Speaker 2: schluck that's a decisive battle. I'm not even sure I'm

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Speaker 2: saying that one correctly. I took two years of German

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Speaker 2: buck took German, it took French, it took Arabic speak basic.

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Speaker 2: But the Schleiefen plan didn't work, and then what happened

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Speaker 2: Trench warfare. I think that the legal assault on Trump

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Speaker 2: Democrats Schleifen plan. I think they really believed that they

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Speaker 2: to get it. They were going to get convictions of Trump.

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Speaker 2: He would be a convicted felon. And then the backup

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Speaker 2: this now taking him off the ballot. But that effectively

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Speaker 2: the legal abuse would deliver them the win that they

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Speaker 2: their sleep in plan is going to turn into political

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Speaker 2: trench warfare, just like in World War One, right, we

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Speaker 2: I think they tried. The Democrats tried their sleep in plan,

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Speaker 2: problem with the strategy for twenty twenty four. I don't

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Speaker 2: And remember trench warfare. I'm not saying who has the

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Speaker 2: that's where I think we're heading. I'm moving away from

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Speaker 2: the grand sweeping maneuver that will just you know, and

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Speaker 2: this also in my mind, this means, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to get a Michelle Obama DNC unity candidate thing.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to get Gavin Newsome, you know, getting uh,

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Speaker 2: And and I and I don't think and I could

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Speaker 2: am honest with you about that, because I think it's

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Speaker 2: Something could happen in the Republican primary, but I think

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Speaker 2: still have some massive surprise next year. But I'm talking

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Speaker 2: the same, that's the status quo. Do you see this

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Speaker 2: What are the challenges you're facing economically? I would think it.

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Speaker 2: Who are you know the Hamas? I wouldn't even just

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Speaker 5: You say, first of all, you say, I don't care

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Speaker 5: you something you probably don't know. The Palestinian Authority Fatah

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Speaker 5: celebrated the seventh of October massacres. I'll give you another

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Speaker 5: fact which demonstrates you know nothing about this and clearly

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Speaker 5: haven't ever visited any Palestinians in the West Bank as

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Speaker 5: I have. If there was an election tomorrow in the

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Speaker 5: West Bank. The reason why there isn't one is because

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Speaker 5: if there was an election tomorrow in the West Bank,

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Speaker 5: Hamas would win. So your idea of a two state solution,

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Speaker 5: I'm afraid you are so out of date and you

435
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Speaker 5: really should leave your bedroom because in this region, nobody

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Speaker 5: thinks that there is a two state solution on the

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Speaker 5: table because there is no viable negotiating part.

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Speaker 2: Of I mean, Doug Murray just gave jenk who, as

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Speaker 2: I said, is a nasty person on top of being

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Speaker 2: not a very bright one, one of the best verbal

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Speaker 2: thrashings I've seen in this pundit game in a long time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that was all true. But everything he's saying

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Speaker 2: is completely true. Everything he's saying is I think needs

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Speaker 2: to be heard by people who are talking about this conflict.

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Speaker 2: I need to understand that. Yeah. I mean in Gaza,

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Speaker 2: they they voted for Hamas, and Hamas would be the

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Speaker 2: choice of the West Bank as well. This is what

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Speaker 2: these Palestinian people want. They want a terrorist entity that

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Speaker 2: that murders people, murders them for being gay. Douglas is gay,

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Speaker 2: so you can imagine, you know, on many levels he

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Speaker 2: finds this, this pretending that you know, Hamas is not

452
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Speaker 2: so awful, abhorrent understandably so so he just he just

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Speaker 2: nails him here and then I'll let you hear a

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Speaker 2: little bit of what how Jank responds, so you can

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Speaker 2: hear a little bit of the counterpoint. But that was

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Speaker 2: a plus stuff from Douglas Murray. This is cut three

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Speaker 2: from the Piers Morgan on Censor show. Jank responding. Play

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Speaker 2: it so nobody watches the show.

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Speaker 6: We have five billion views a year. I don't know

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Speaker 6: what peddling out if you're on or what little subsack

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Speaker 6: or whatever the hell you write on So the reason

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Speaker 6: we're incredibly popular. All we fight for shot up, we

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Speaker 6: fight for all innocent civilians.

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Speaker 2: So yes, we've covered all those conflicts.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I'm against fundamentalist Islam, no question about it. I'm

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Speaker 6: against fundamentalist religious of all kinds.

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Speaker 2: In terms of.

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Speaker 6: Every right wing supporter of Israel, their only tactic is hey,

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Speaker 6: don't look at the eight thousand murdered children, don't look

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Speaker 6: at the six four hundred murdered women. Don't look at

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Speaker 6: the fact that all the hospitals in Northern Guys that

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Speaker 6: have been shut down. Don't look at the fact that

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Speaker 6: four out of five people in Northern Guys are starving

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Speaker 6: right now, and half the people in Southern Guys are

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Speaker 6: starving instead.

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Speaker 2: Auntie Sam, Auntie Sami. Now, I wait a minute.

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Speaker 6: I just told you how much I want security for Israel,

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Speaker 6: how much I hated what happened on October seventh. What

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Speaker 6: you don't know is I started the Young Turks with

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Speaker 6: two Jewish friends, and so the.

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Speaker 2: Whole program is both Jewish and Muslims. You know nothing.

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Speaker 2: You know nothing. I have Jewish family and friends.

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Speaker 6: Why in the war gods as they go to Israel,

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Speaker 6: I want them to be safe Okay, so I see

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Speaker 6: you get the idea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, on the one hand, you have you have

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Speaker 2: somebody and we're going. On the one hand, you have

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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray, who has just been in the region extensively

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Speaker 2: and seeing everything with his own eyes and talking to

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Speaker 2: everybody and is a is well informed on the conflict,

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Speaker 2: and you have this sort of bloviating bullies like hey, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're a jerk, and a lot of people

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Speaker 2: watch our thing on on YouTube and you and that

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Speaker 2: this pretense that these people and this has always been.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is an essential point that I have

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Speaker 2: been making all along because I see the parallels. And

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Speaker 2: this is why I feel so strongly about this. The

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Speaker 2: same the same nihilistic sadism and hatred that I saw

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Speaker 2: in this Hamas attack, as well as what Hamas just

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Speaker 2: exists in general. For I mean, it reminds me very

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Speaker 2: much so of what I saw up close and personal

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Speaker 2: with al Qaida in Iraq, with uh you know, the

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Speaker 2: Hakkani network in Afghanistan, where these people, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: will mutilate, they will murder, they will kill, they will maim,

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Speaker 2: and they will do so without compunction, without remorse, because

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Speaker 2: they are zealots for a bankrupt ideology, a destructive view

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Speaker 2: of the whole world. And it's and it's the embrace

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Speaker 2: of evil. And you'll notice they'll say, oh, that's also simplistic.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what someone could say about October seventh

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Speaker 2: other than that it was it was an embrace of

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Speaker 2: evil by organization, a terrorist entity, that is, the democratically

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Speaker 2: elected representative of another group of people, the Palestinians in Gaza.

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Speaker 2: And they are now paying a price for what was

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Speaker 2: done on October seventh. And while that's not fair, war

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Speaker 2: is hell and the Israelis. When I say it's not fair,

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Speaker 2: it's not fair. There are civilians who are dying, that's clear,

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Speaker 2: but war is hell. The Israelis have a right to

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Speaker 2: defend themselves. They actually, as I've said, they have an

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Speaker 2: obligation to defend themselves. In this way, the Israeli people

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Speaker 2: have an obligation, or rather the IDEF has an obligation

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Speaker 2: to protect Israel and never allow something like this to

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Speaker 2: happen again. And that means the eradication of Hamas' leadership,

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Speaker 2: the imprisonment or or killing. And I will say that

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Speaker 2: of everyone in Hamas who had anything to do with this.

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Speaker 2: That's it. There is no other what is the im

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Speaker 2: I want to ask some of these people, the young,

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Speaker 2: you know, the young jerks whatever. I want to ask

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Speaker 2: them what they think the answer should be. Because if

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Speaker 2: you can't have any civilian casualties in Gaza, you can't.

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Speaker 2: You know, Hamas just gets to have among the civilian population.

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Speaker 2: This is the same thing we saw fighting al Qaida

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Speaker 2: in I rock As. There were song off people's heads

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Speaker 2: on video. You had these left to It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: are you sure America is the good guy? Yeah? I

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Speaker 2: was sure we were the good guy because I mean,

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Speaker 2: you don't make mistakes. But notice how they play this

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Speaker 2: game of well, because both sides make mistakes. It's all

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Speaker 2: the same. No, it's not all it's not all the same.

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Speaker 2: And then the other point that actually, you know what

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Speaker 2: the other point that Dougas makes I want to get

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Speaker 2: to because I think it's important about the deaths of

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Speaker 2: Palestinians are so much more important to the and I

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Speaker 2: mean in conflict, in armed conflict. The deaths of Palestinians

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Speaker 2: are a hundred times more important to leftists in this

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Speaker 2: country and the Muslim world than any other deaths that occur.

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Speaker 2: Why is that? What is the why is that the

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Speaker 2: case that seems quite strange, doesn't it? We think about it.

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Speaker 2: If it's just about protecting it is in life. We

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Speaker 2: will return to that point here in just a moment. Also,

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Speaker 2: lines are wide open eight hundred and two ay two

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Speaker 2: to eight A two. You know, it's just talking to

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Speaker 2: one of our callers in the last hour, who's saying, Look,

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Speaker 2: I feel the pinch in this economy, the buy an economy.

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Speaker 2: It stinks, all right, everything's more expensive. Money's not going

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Speaker 2: as far as it used to, not as much money

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Speaker 2: is coming in as you're used to under the Trump administration.

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Speaker 2: Let's just call it like it is. But there are

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Speaker 2: things you can do. There are ways you can save cash.

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Speaker 2: My wife's trying to do it all the time. I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of you are trying to save some cash.

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Speaker 2: Is an expensive month in December, right, We've got gifts

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Speaker 2: and bonuses and all kinds of things. So my friends,

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Speaker 2: please consider the Upside app. Go download it's free. It's free.

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Speaker 2: Go download the Upside app onto your phone. You'll see

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Speaker 2: you get set up. It takes like a minute to

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Speaker 2: my phone and you get cash back. Groceries, gas restaurants

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Speaker 2: aren't those things that you're all going to be spending

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Speaker 2: money on. Grocery, gas restaurants. So the pain point here

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Speaker 2: is obvious. It's prices are too high and people want

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Speaker 2: to save some cash. So I'm giving you a way

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Speaker 2: to do it. The Upside app can save you hundreds

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Speaker 2: of dollars in the months ahead. Okay, the Upside app

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Speaker 2: lot of those are participating. So what you do is

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Speaker 2: you download this app and you see on it's like geolocated.

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Speaker 2: You see on the map on the app where you

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Speaker 2: can go to get a great deal, and then you

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Speaker 2: just you click on it Upside. You go there and

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Speaker 2: you get, for example, twenty five cents back for every

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Speaker 2: gallon of gas you use when you use promo code Buck.

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Speaker 2: So go to the Upside app, use promo code Buck,

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Speaker 2: get yourself set up. You're gonna be saving on gas,

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Speaker 2: groceries and more. You're probably thinking, what's the downside. There

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Speaker 2: is no downside. That's why the app is Upside.

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton chuck up a win for

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Speaker 1: Team Reality.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody. Third hour. Clay and Buck going right now.

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Speaker 2: I know we all miss Clay. He's in Australia having

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Speaker 2: a great time. I wonder what Australia Christmas is like,

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Speaker 2: Probably like ours, but you know, maybe a little a

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Speaker 2: little warmer. It's their summer. I think it's a good

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Speaker 2: time to go there. But those you were asking, and

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Speaker 2: he's having a great time down there with the family,

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Speaker 2: really enjoying his vacation. And in the meantime, let's sort

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Speaker 2: of talk to you guys a little bit about well,

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Speaker 2: you know, I have a birthday coming up and I'll

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Speaker 2: be forty three years old. For those who are wondering,

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Speaker 2: someone told me recently that I didn't look a day

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Speaker 2: over thirty, which I'm hoping I keep that going for

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Speaker 2: a while. But I'm going to be forty three years old.

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Speaker 2: And I was reflecting a little bit, you know, I

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Speaker 2: was reflecting on how, first of all, blessed I feel,

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Speaker 2: and I do think that Christmas time is a particularly

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Speaker 2: important moment. Those were you know, those are the Christians

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Speaker 2: or are believers obviously celebrating the birth of Jesus, and

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Speaker 2: those who are Jewish, are I know, celebrating Hanukkah and

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Speaker 2: some other folks are just celebrating whatever a holiday that

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Speaker 2: we're all going to be hopefully getting some time off

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Speaker 2: from work. Man, I am so blessed. I am so

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Speaker 2: blessed as a result of many things. I've got a

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Speaker 2: fantastic family. I've got a wonderful wife, I've got a

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Speaker 2: great team I work with on this show, and a

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Speaker 2: phenomenal co host and partner in Clay, and I really

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Speaker 2: enjoy and feel purpose in my day to day life,

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Speaker 2: and so much of that is because I get to

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Speaker 2: speak to all of you. I get to sit here,

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Speaker 2: and I hope you all know I never lose sight

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Speaker 2: of the fact that this is the house that Rush built.

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Speaker 2: And after being many many years as a faithful Rush

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Speaker 2: listener myself and looking to him, listening to him for

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Speaker 2: guidance and insight, I view this mission that we're on here,

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Speaker 2: and Clay, I know, feels the same way as serving

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Speaker 2: Rush's audience. You know, there's nothing, nothing that could be

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Speaker 2: I think a higher professional aspiration than to do the

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Speaker 2: best work possible every day for all of you across

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Speaker 2: the country, bringing you the best insights that we can.

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Speaker 2: Entertainment and I always felt this way as a conservative,

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Speaker 2: even before I was in media. When you have like

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Speaker 2: minded people who know whether describing as a conservative or

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Speaker 2: a Republican or right wing or whatever, there is a comfort,

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Speaker 2: especially for those of us who live in overwhelmingly Democrat precincts,

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Speaker 2: overwhelming the Democrat areas of the country. There's a comfort

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Speaker 2: in hearing voice that you can trust, that you can

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Speaker 2: count on on these issues. And I certainly aspire to

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Speaker 2: be that every day here, and I know Clay does

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Speaker 2: as well. And also because I have my birthday coming up,

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Speaker 2: I like this. I like to tell this little story

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Speaker 2: usually would I would tell it on my birthday. Though

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Speaker 2: some of you know this because you used to listen

641
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Speaker 2: to me from six to nine pm, or you listen

642
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 2: to the podcast, or maybe even listen to me back

643
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: in the day when I was a radio host on

644
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Speaker 2: The Blaze, and by radio I mean streaming and podcast

645
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Speaker 2: before I was syndicated by Premieer Networks from six to

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Speaker 2: nine pm, which happened in twenty sixteen. I spent a

647
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Speaker 2: few years doing a radio show, but it was really

648
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: at the Blaze dot com. It was a stream, it

649
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: was a podcast, and it was very early on the

650
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: earlier side of the world of podcasting, and to build

651
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: a streaming audience at that point was certainly very challenging.

652
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Speaker 2: But because of podcasting, I would have people who would

653
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Speaker 2: listen to the show. They would listen to the show

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, and I did a three hour show every Saturday.

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Speaker 2: And I think this started in twenty thirteen and went

656
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Speaker 2: all the way to twenty sixteen. If memory service might

657
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 2: have been twenty twelve, how I can't even remember. But

658
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: I spent years doing that, and I'm always grateful to

659
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: Glenn Beck for offering me the opportunity to work in media.

660
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't even looking for a media think about that

661
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Speaker 2: for a second. I was a CIA officer who had

662
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Speaker 2: a year kind of was arranged by government entities a

663
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Speaker 2: year at the NYPD Intelligence Division. And then I was thinking,

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Speaker 2: you know, I might go to business school because I

665
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: just wanted to work in the private sector. I felt

666
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: like I had done enough public sector time for me

667
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Speaker 2: at that point, had been in for five going on

668
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Speaker 2: six years, and I figured I'll go to business school.

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Speaker 2: And I get this email and it says, you know,

670
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Speaker 2: my boss, I told my boss about you. I heard

671
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 2: about you at a women in Technology conference, and it

672
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: was from the assistant of someone named Betsy Morgan, who

673
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Speaker 2: was the president of the Blaze dot com at the time,

674
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Speaker 2: Glenn's company, and she said, I'd like to talk to you.

675
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Speaker 2: So I said, all right, sure. I had already gotten

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Speaker 2: into business school. I already gotten into NYU's Stern School

677
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Speaker 2: of Business and Columbia Business School in New York at

678
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Speaker 2: the time. Noticing a pattern, I wanted to be in

679
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Speaker 2: New York, and I was thinking that I'm going. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that I was thinking at that time, I

681
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 2: was trying to figure out if I could get any

682
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Speaker 2: financial aid or I had no money. I mean I

683
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Speaker 2: had I spent all of my money actually sold or

684
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Speaker 2: I should say so well sold off. I you know,

685
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Speaker 2: evaporated my four oh one k. Don't do that. Now

686
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: that I actually see compound interest that I have a

687
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Speaker 2: better standing of finance, don't do that. But I sold

688
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Speaker 2: my four oh one k, which it wasn't a lot

689
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Speaker 2: of money, but at the time to me, it was

690
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Speaker 2: so that I could get the books and fill out

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Speaker 2: the applications and apply and take the you know, the

692
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Speaker 2: practice testing and everything, and apply to business school and

693
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: then basically one fell swoop. I decided, well, I sat

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Speaker 2: down with Glenn Beck, who is a phenomenal talent and

695
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: done a lot for conservative media, a lot of people

696
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Speaker 2: in conservative media like me. I sat down and Glenn

697
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Speaker 2: just kind of did his Glenn thing where those of

698
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: you who know him from TV know he sort of

699
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: just looked me in the eyes, waved his hands like

700
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Speaker 2: you are going to like you aren't joining the circus.

701
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, I'm not going to go to

702
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Speaker 2: business school and just try to make money and live

703
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: a quietly. I'm going to the circus. And that's what happened.

704
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: People ask me how I got into it. It was

705
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: an email. I actually at first thought it was a

706
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Speaker 2: spam email. It wasn't an email from an assistant to

707
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Speaker 2: a person who worked for Glenn. That turned into a

708
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 2: coffee that turned into a career change, that turned into

709
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Speaker 2: here I am sitting in, you know, one of two

710
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Speaker 2: chairs that are trying to keep the legacy of RUSH

711
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Speaker 2: going and fight for this country as best we can

712
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: every day on five hundred stations. And you know that

713
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: it's it's pretty remarkable journey. And you know, I don't

714
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 2: talk about that stuff very elf and I try. I

715
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Speaker 2: always want to have a balance, you know, and I'm

716
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: hoping lot of you are right now driving to get

717
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: your last you know, grocery store run in before I

718
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: know what Christmas is? Monday? Right am? I read on

719
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Speaker 2: that it's Monday, so oh, you got a few days

720
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Speaker 2: getting your last present, shopping in, whatever it is. I

721
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: try to talk about myself excessively on the radio. I

722
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: don't talk about because I think there's so much stuff

723
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: to get into and so much knowledge that we all

724
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: can share and insight and you know, problems to tackle

725
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: but hope to maintain stuff like that. So I don't

726
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: talk about myself very often on the show. And this

727
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: is why I usually do a Christmas show where i'd

728
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: tell you some personal things and a little bit of

729
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: a reflection or all that. Obviously, this past year I

730
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Speaker 2: got married, which is quite a blessing. And I know

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Speaker 2: many of you over the years who were listening to

732
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Speaker 2: me back when I was doing that Saturday show for

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Speaker 2: three hours, why isn't he married? And you know, I'd

734
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Speaker 2: been trying to find the right person for many years,

735
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Speaker 2: and my my sense of it was I wanted to

736
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Speaker 2: try to get it right the first time. So I

737
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: was very careful the first time, or rather very deliberative

738
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Speaker 2: about it. And I'm very blessed and lucky to have

739
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Speaker 2: a fantastic wife, and yes, you know we are we

740
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: are certainly hoping to be blessed with children in the

741
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: near future. So that's been an amazing year for me.

742
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: So I've had twenty twenty three has been great in

743
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: so many ways. But also when I reflect back, I

744
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: think about how I would and I'm jumping around a lot,

745
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: I know, but you know, last hour of my last

746
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: hour of radio for me for twenty twenty three. So

747
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I'm getting a little sappy. I'm sorry

748
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: if I'm feeling a little nostalgic about everything. But you

749
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: gotta remember this is a remarkable thing. I mean, I

750
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: believed through my twenties that I was just gonna be

751
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 2: a CIA officer, and I had thought about transferring over

752
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 2: to the Directorate of Operations. I'd even had long conversations

753
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 2: with people who could have helped me make that kind

754
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: of a switch, and you know, looked at other things abroad,

755
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: and you know, it was I thought, I thought I

756
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 2: was going to be career CIA, and then I end

757
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: up in New York, and I kind of want to

758
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: stay at New York and I want to get an

759
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: advanced degree. And next thing I know, I have a

760
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: media career and I absolutely love it. And I didn't

761
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: really think about it this way, But all those years

762
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: of listening to Rush and yes, watching Fox News back

763
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: in the day, and reading the various conservative publications that

764
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: existed then, which I know some of you don't like anymore,

765
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: but I grew up reading them and reading the great

766
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 2: conservative authors you know, Edmund Burke and Hayek, and all

767
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: that was training for this current job. I was training

768
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: for a job I didn't know I was ever going

769
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: to get. And then I always tell everyone on my

770
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: on my birthday, and I'll try to make this one,

771
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, relatively relatively quick that not only did I

772
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: not expect to have a media job. For those parents

773
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: out there who have kids who are have special needs,

774
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: have either a learning issue that has to be addressed

775
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: or in my case of speech issue, I know what

776
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: that's like. And I like to tell people this because

777
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: I think there's a particular humility that comes from being

778
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: a kid who is really well, constantly feeling very different.

779
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: And that was my case when I couldn't pronounce my

780
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: own name. I had an annunciation disorder and that had

781
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: to be worked out through speech therapy over over a

782
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: few years, and so I would I would tell people

783
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't pronounce my own name, and that was you

784
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: can imagine being a kid, you know, first grade, and

785
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: the other kids look at you, like what And I

786
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: would say words strangely. It sounded normal to me, but

787
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: I would say words very strangely. And there was a

788
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: conversation that even happened where my mother was approached by

789
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: the head of the school that I was in, or

790
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: I guess it was that, well, the sort of the

791
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: head of a lower school they called it, you know,

792
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: the part of the school. It's like first through third grade.

793
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: Look like the teacher thinks, maybe he's got to go

794
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: to a special a special school, and but I think,

795
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: meaning this this administrator, if we just give him a

796
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: little more encouragement and we get him some outside help,

797
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: then he'll be okay. And so I got pulled out

798
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: of normal class and started to get both because remember,

799
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: your confidence is shattered when you're a little kid by

800
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: not being able to say your name, and then that

801
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: hurts you in the classroom as well. So you know

802
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: what I'm going to continue. I'll continue this story in

803
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Speaker 2: a second here and tell you this, there is a

804
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: happy ending. I know some of you eve heard it,

805
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: but hey, it's my birth it's my birthday segment. December

806
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 2: twenty eighth is my birthday. I'm not gonna I'm gonna

807
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: be off then, So I'm giving you my yearly sort

808
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: of birthday reminiscence and going going back in time a

809
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 2: little bit. But you know, it's gonna be great watching

810
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: a fantastic movie with family this holiday season. So here's

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Speaker 2: what I recommend. Take yourself and your family this Christmas

812
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: Day to see The Boys in the Boat. It's the

813
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: new film from director George Clooney. It debuts in movie

814
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: theaters on Christmas. It's a rags to Richest crawb pleaser

815
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Speaker 2: based on the number one New York Times bestselling book.

816
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: Clay loves this book, by the way. He says, the

817
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: book is fantastic. He's read it. Told me that I'm

818
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: gonna read the book, I'm gonna go see the movie

819
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: and it's funny. I actually rote Crewe in college, so

820
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: I have a particular I was not good by the way.

821
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Speaker 2: I wish I could say that I was like talented

822
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: or good at Crewe. I was like mediocre to sub mediocre.

823
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: But I did do it, and I did compete. I

824
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: did make the first boat and all that stuff. But anyway,

825
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: this is a Boys in the Boat is an inspirational

826
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: true story about a very difficult sport. Let me tell

827
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Speaker 2: you rowing, getting up at five o'clock in the morning,

828
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: freezing your butt off on the Connecticut River, having your

829
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: hands get turned into hamburger meet by using the the

830
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: the ore all the time. Anyway, this movie highlights the

831
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty six University of Washington College rowing team that

832
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: computer for gold at the Summer Games. In the team

833
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: rowed out of a need to eat and a need

834
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Speaker 2: to sleep. It gave them an edge, capture the power

835
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Speaker 2: of working together to overcome all odds while running for

836
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Speaker 2: our nation. They just don't make movies like this anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's a great feel good movie, a true story, a

838
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 2: perfect movie to go see with your family this Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Believe in each other, believe in the impossible. The Boys

840
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: in the Boat is the name of the movie in

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00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: theaters this coming Monday, Christmas Day. Get tickets now, just

842
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: go to Boysintheboatmovie dot com, boysintheboatmovie dot com

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Speaker 1: Wow, Learn and laugh weekdays with Klaytravis and Buck Sexton