1 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this episode of Keep It Positive. 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Sweetie guys, Kipps is taken over La. I'm here catching 3 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: up with some of my favorite favorite people and we 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: are filming inside this beautiful black owned store owned by 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Nikayo Greco, where ninety percent of the products sold here 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: are bipod founded. Thank you so much, thirteen loon Today, 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: I have with me none other than durand Bernard. Guys. 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: He is described as gangster musical theater by Queen Hervey. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: Durand Berarnar combines elements of Little Richard and Rick James 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: with his own unique flare, characterized by his powerful vocals 11 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: and clever storytelling. The result is unmistakably Durand, earning him 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: the title of your favorite Singer's favorite singer. The Cleveland 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: native performing artist, vocalist, producer, and songwriter recently debut his 14 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: latest visual EP en Route, a genre bending compilation of 15 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Duran's musical influences answers as a transitional bridge between his 16 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: sophomore album Wanderlust and his forthcoming solo and collaborative releases. 17 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen, durand Bernard, you guys have probably seen 18 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: him seeing background for some of your favorite favorite artists, 19 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: but you've also known him as a solo artist, so 20 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: you have really built your own lane outside of singing BG. 21 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: I started just posting content on the internet. I saw you, 22 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: and that's how kind of things picked up. Wow, with 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: just getting notoriety. 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: What was your goal when you're like, I'm going to 25 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: start doing covers on YouTube? That was like two thousand 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: and eight. 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so wasn't really a goal. I just wanted an 28 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: objective opinion on what it is that I do because 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: you know, when folks are in family and your friends, 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: you know. 31 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: That they'll gash you up and yet. 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to make sure that what I 33 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: was doing, like this is this is the calling? 34 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, awesome. So tell me out your childhood 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: because I know the way you sing. I want to 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: know what the inspirations were, Like, what were your parents 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,279 Speaker 1: playing when you were at home cleaning up on Saturdays? 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: Because you have so much soul in your voice and 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: there's so many different textures. What was that like growing 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: up and what did you guys listen to? 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: So my mother was very strict on what was being 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: filtered in the house, so it was really just gospel 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: and jazz. 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: My dad was on the doing the jazz stuff. 45 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: But then also they would you know, listen to you know. 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: Marvin Gaye and the Commodores and stuff like that. 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: Shah Day, Yes, you. 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Know, yes, Whitney and Mariah would be played on the 49 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: jazz stations. 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: You know. 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: And Michael Jackson actually was cool, you know, because we 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 2: grew up with him so but it wasn't until later 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: on I was able to what I call a contraband, 54 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: you know, listening to the Wait to Next Heale soundtrack. 55 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: And yes, I don't know how I got a hold 56 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: of the velvet rope. I just remember that she got 57 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: a hold of them lyrics back then, you know, you 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: used to put lyrics in the booklet. 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: Child, and she got got the rope burn And I 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: ain't seen that album since. 61 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: Your mama burn it. 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: Listen. 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: She she got rid of it. 64 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: She was just like, no, not in this house. 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Listen. I remember about my first like explicit. I think 66 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: it was like Mace or like an album from Mason. 67 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: It had the E on it for ex listen and 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: my mom found that and she was like mm hmmm. 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 5: Not. 70 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't even I'm on two BT shows and I 71 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: couldn't watch BT growing up. 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean I knew listen, I knew friends who couldn't 73 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: watch the rug Rats what, you know, because they felt 74 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: that that behavior would was not you know, uh becoming 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, for for for for children. So 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: it's just it just really depends on what everybody's capacities were. 77 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: But you know, you know, we we kind of loosened 78 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: it up as we as we went along. 79 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: So you are known for your energy on the stage. 80 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: Were you always full of energy as a child or 81 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: did this did you find yourself later on in life? 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: I have always been myself really, I've always been myself. 83 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: As my mother said, you. 84 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: Always let us know who you were. 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: There was no like us controlling or molding you into 86 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: you know, even though I'm a very great hybrid of. 87 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 3: My mom and my dad being the only child. But yeah, 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: it's I've just always been me. 89 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: I've always just been this ball of energy, always wanting 90 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: to entertain people. I always want to laugh, always up 91 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 2: to mischief, you know. But yeah, this is it's and 92 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: it's just been more refined. 93 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: Okay throughout your journey, Like because you've sang background for 94 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: Eric for how long now, I still do I saw 95 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: a video recently crazy. 96 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 3: It's been. 97 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 4: Thoughts thirteen years. 98 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: Wow, so she got together? 99 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: I know, Oh my good So thirteen years singing background. 100 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: A lot of vocalists get pigeonholed. Singing beg for artists. 101 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: How did you say, I'm gonna do this for thirteen 102 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: years and still doing it, but I'm gonna also do 103 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: my own thing, And how did you find the time 104 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: to do that? 105 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: So she was never at least when I came along, 106 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: she wasn't gigging to the point where it was taking 107 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: me away from the things that I needed to do 108 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: to you. 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: So I was able to balance both. 110 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: And I told her, like, I will juggle both as 111 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: long as I possibly. 112 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 3: Can until I just can't. 113 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: But it helps when you, you know, have a great relationship 114 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: with not only the artist, but the crew, the band. 115 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: You know, this has been a family affair for me 116 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: for a while now. So I'm just now getting to 117 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: a position where I'm like, oh, I can't do this, kid, 118 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: because I'm gonna be an afropunk or you know, I'm 119 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: gonna be over in Europe, you know. So, but that's 120 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: something that she's always proud of. 121 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: I love it. It's always good when like the person 122 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: that you were for for so long is supportive of 123 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: your dreams as well. 124 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she she told me early on when I 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: first joined. She said, I don't feel my stage is 126 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: big enough for you. And that was me at like 127 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: twenty two twenty. Yeah, I was really trying to just 128 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: digest that. 129 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, how do you process Eric telling. 130 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: You that when you are in a position where you 131 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: can inspire your inspiration, it is unlike any feeling that 132 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: we we And it's not that it's not common in 133 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: certain spaces, but to just be aware of it, to 134 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: really take it in like this is this is a moment, yeah, 135 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: you know, or you you value my thoughts or my feelings, 136 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: you know that type of thing. Yeah, And I know 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 2: everyone doesn't doesn't have that when they say don't you know, 138 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 2: don't meet your heroes or don't meet your favorites. 139 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 3: You know. 140 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: But I think my expectation for our relationship was so low, 141 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: Like I thought it was just I was gonna be 142 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: able to shake her hand and you know, just thank 143 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: her for you know, inspiring me. 144 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: And it was just know she reached out to me. 145 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Wow, So how did they even come about the Internet? 146 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: Then she saw you along and was like, I want 147 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: you come, come with me. Let's run this world together. Yes, indeed, 148 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: that is amazing. So being that close to Erica, it 149 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: reminds me of my relationship with Tyler Perry. I styled 150 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: him for five years and I was with him all 151 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: the time. What things, What things have you taken from 152 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: Erica that have helped you in your own personal journey 153 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: as an artist? 154 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: My ship? 155 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: But then also have fun, Yeah, have fun, trusting your 156 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: band and then trusting you, building that rapport. 157 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: Not to take myself so serious, especially on stage. 158 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, okay, I didn't hit the right note, 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: That's fine. 160 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: This is when did you know? Hit the right as 161 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: she said? 162 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 4: First of all, how y'all gonna tell about I hit 163 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: the wrong now? 164 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: How you know which? You know? I was going. 165 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: Right exactly? 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: So now all of those things and just other mental 167 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: notes that I've taken over the course of this time, 168 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: especially as I've seen. 169 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: The production grow. 170 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: You know, last year, she did her first arena tour, 171 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 2: and that was something that was you know, just to 172 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: go from. 173 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: The theaters that we did once. 174 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: Let she hadn't put out new music in almost ten years, 175 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: and yet you're able to sell out eighteen to twenty 176 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: two thousand, sex crazy. 177 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: That's amazing business wise. Has there been anything that you've 178 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: taken from her that helped you, like develop your Businesscause 179 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: as an artist, it's just not about being creative, it's 180 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: also be a businessman. Now, what have you taken from 181 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: her to sell? Okay, this is how I need to 182 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: handle my business as well. 183 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: So my business aspect of it really honestly came from 184 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: my dad because he's been, you know, managing me. Oh really, yes, 185 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: since I decided that this is what I wanted to do. 186 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, So having someone to have your back in. 187 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: That kind of way. 188 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I have an amazing team that believes in 189 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: me that you know, enhances is what is going on. 190 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: However, when our. 191 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: Senior just takes the cake when it comes to someone 192 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: really going to bat and making sure that I'm taking 193 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: care of it the best way. 194 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: I love it. And a lot of not a lot 195 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: of artists can say that their father their mother back 196 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: everything they're doing. But to have that family support, I'm 197 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: sure means the most because you can really trust your family, 198 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: especially navigating this industry, it's a little tough. Yeah, Yeah, 199 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 1: that's incredible. Now most recently, you just did the Juneteenth 200 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: Celebration at the Hollywood But oh yeah, yeah, let's talk 201 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: about it, because honey, I saw the video with Tea 202 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Pain standing on the side of the stage losing his 203 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: absolute mind. 204 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: Don't you just love it? 205 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: Like I just love it? 206 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 2: I was so first and forem of some want to 207 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: go on the record and just say, Lloyd, who is 208 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,599 Speaker 2: there is one of the most sweetest and warm, delightful 209 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: human beings that I've just immediately come in contact with. 210 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: And he just poured so much positivity and encouragement into 211 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 2: me before I went on stage, and I was telling 212 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 2: him I feel full, I feel supportive, and I feel loved, 213 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: and I also feel acknowledged all of those things happening simultaneously. 214 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: To have people that I again am inspired by, that 215 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm motivated by, that I've grown up with, are now. 216 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,599 Speaker 3: Paying attention. 217 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: For a long time. 218 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that is something that I'm And then 219 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: the fact that my parents are able to witness all 220 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: of this, to witness the seeds that they planted and 221 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: to see all this flourish is just everything else is 222 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 2: a as a perk. 223 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 3: That is the main thing that has been the most gratifying. 224 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: I want to ask you something, because just singing about 225 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: your journey and you're saying finally be an acknowledged and 226 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: seen and loved. Were there any moments in your journey 227 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: where you felt like they don't see me, the world 228 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: doesn't see me. I know who I am, you know, 229 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: and you're still getting those and trying to build. How 230 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: did you navigate through those seasons of your life. 231 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: I did have a a real moment I think maybe 232 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, where I felt maybe I need to 233 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: just completely shift who I am and how I'm presenting 234 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: myself because maybe this isn't getting me a new pair 235 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: of shoes that I really need to be able to 236 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: stride properly. And it's all about timing, and it's all 237 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: about what is being said and who is saying and 238 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: how they are saying it. And I think for a 239 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: long time people were trying to tell me to tone 240 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 2: it down or to dumb it down. That was another 241 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: one that I just I didn't understand what do you mean? 242 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: Right? 243 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: Dun't what And it. 244 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: Wasn't until someone actually had the language for me to 245 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: be like, well, actually, all we need to do is 246 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 2: just simplify this. You can still be yourself but present 247 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: it in a way where you love it, but also 248 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: it makes sense to everyone else. 249 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 3: And so that's where my song melody came from. 250 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: And I was just talking about that journey of finding 251 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: finally finding my sound and my approach to music, which 252 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: is implementing my personality in there and leaving room for 253 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: where everyone can sing along, and then those little pockets 254 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: of me doing my stuff. You know, we tuck her 255 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 2: over here in the cut. You have got to really 256 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: you know, pay attention. And then yeah, so that that's 257 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: been and that's been like my my my formula. 258 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it because I know a 259 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: lot of times we did with imposter syndrome or feel 260 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: like we don't belong knowing we do, but we get 261 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: to that space where like, wait, is this what I'm 262 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: supposed to do? Yeah, so I n I know, I 263 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: a'll too well myself, like how they can feel when 264 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: you know what you're capable of but the world doesn't 265 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: see it yet, that part, you know, Yeah, I love that. 266 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: So you also did the tiny desk. I that's like 267 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: a big platform. Listen, that is like a huge, huge, huge, 268 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: huge platform, and everybody wants to make that, but not 269 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people do. Howd Ha, how did you 270 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: feel when you got that call? And then how did 271 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: you come up with your set list and everything you're 272 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna do for that? 273 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: So first and foremost just walking into the space knowing 274 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: that I'm I've been doing this independently. 275 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I also. 276 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: Had, you know, my village there, you know, where it's 277 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: people that I've been reaching to the side of that 278 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: I've known since I was twelve and eighteen, and you know, 279 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: the past ten years just building this, helping add onto 280 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: this machine. It was again a v is the acknowledgment, 281 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: the actually, no, we don't want you to do Tiny 282 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: Desk at home. 283 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: We need to get you actually behind the desk. 284 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then just the introduction that Bobby Carter did, 285 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: where it was just He's like, I've been around for 286 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: every Tiny Desk, you know, and I've seen amazing acts. 287 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: Blessed this space, he said, however, this is. 288 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: Special, yes, and it's just like, oh gosh. And so 289 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: I've been dressing up on my tour that I was 290 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: on and so we kind of slapped that right in 291 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: the middle of five shows and it ended up being 292 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: number six. We have been on the road for three 293 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: weeks by that time, so we were very locked in. 294 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: It was just a condensed version of my of my set, 295 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: and I was dressing up. I was the mask one night, 296 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: I was Beetlejuice, I was Popeye, Carmen San Diego, all 297 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: those things because I didn't get a chance to you know, 298 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: trick or treat when I was growing up, you know 299 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: again Harvest. 300 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 6: Okay, So yeah, So I was just allowing my inner 301 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 6: child to just kind of have a moment, to just 302 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 6: have fun. 303 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 3: You know. 304 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. 305 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: Hallelujah. 306 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: And I remember those days. 307 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 5: We are not going to church, be going to the 308 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: church absolutely, okay, Okay, speaking of growing up in the church, 309 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 5: do you feel like that has been your foundation and 310 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 5: what has carried you throughout the years. 311 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: So, my the development, the artist development being in church, 312 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: and not just in church, in theater as well, singing 313 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: choral music and being a part of an ensemble where 314 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 2: you are learning how to blend into the bigger piece 315 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: of the puzzle and then when it's time for you 316 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: to shine, you step out, you work the stage and 317 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: so and I also got a lot of inspiration indirectly, 318 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: like I didn't grow listening to the Clark Sisters, but 319 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: I listen to people who listen to the Clark Sisters, 320 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: and so certain things that were done I picked up 321 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 2: from other artists, which I think is really dope about 322 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: just music in general, and how we can be indirectly 323 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: inspired just from someone's take of how they interpret what 324 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: they've learned. And I'm a sponge, so it's it's all 325 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: different type of things. 326 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: I love it. I love I grew up in the 327 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: church and I sing as. 328 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: Well, not like you got to do that, but you're saying. 329 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: Listen. 330 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: I listened to you know, I was like, oh my goodness, 331 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: Like you definitely have an anointed voice because the acrobats 332 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: you can do with your voice, I'm just like, whoa. 333 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: The human voice just interests me so much. 334 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: This is the things that we can do specifically like 335 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: Phyllis Hymon, Yes, like when she did Broadway. It's just 336 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: the thing that can be done how you can. Jamie 337 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: Fox is another one where his impressions. 338 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: Like yeah, so good, Yeah, I love that a few 339 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: other things. Tell me what else you got coming up? 340 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: I know you have a six city tour skate, Yeah, 341 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna DJ yes, that's incredible. Okay, let me tell 342 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: that story. 343 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: I was. 344 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: I had a skate party in the third grade, fell 345 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: and busted my lip and I haven't skated since. Yeah, 346 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: so I've the trauma. The trauma, honey, you can't. And 347 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: then I tried to get when I got old and 348 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: I fell and just the vibration from your butt to 349 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: your mouth when you fall like that, It's like, this 350 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: is why I didn't do this. So like, I love. 351 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: I think it's so cool when I see people out 352 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: there skating backwards and doing the dances. Do you do 353 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: all that? 354 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: So I'm seeing I need everybody to calm down because 355 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: they be sending me videos of folks doing backflips and 356 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: flips and the splits on. 357 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: The edge or the curb. No, I have not done 358 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 3: any such thing. 359 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: Okay. 360 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: What what I'm doing is I'm line dancing on my 361 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 2: skates Okay, and line dancing is it is a Northwest 362 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Midwest South thing, and so it makes it. 363 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 4: Look like I'm doing something, but I'm just I'm stepping. 364 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 3: It's just a little jig. 365 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: You know, in your DJing on this tour. Yes, so 366 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: when did you get into dj last year? 367 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean technically I've been djaying, you know, because 368 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: you know, my taste in music is impeccable. But it's 369 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 2: just now I have a controller to kind of blend 370 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: and remix and whatnot. So yeah, I want to give 371 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: that a shot, just to see what other avenues I 372 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: can have to be myself and that make away from me. 373 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. So what made you 374 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: say I want to do a tour? A skate tour? 375 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Because this is very like I don't think you mighty 376 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: really done anything like this. 377 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is very specific because I'm a skater and 378 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: I grew up you know, skating every Friday Saturday night. 379 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: And also too, I feel like there is a there's 380 00:18:55,119 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: an art to curating music specifically for skating and specifically 381 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: adult night. Yes, like I just as much as Active 382 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: by the City Girls gets me going, that is not 383 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: a proper skate song, right, Like we need you know, pistol, 384 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: grip pump okay, we like you know those type of things. 385 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: We need some Patrice Russian Okay, we need some you 386 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: know mayor Jane girls. 387 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: You know that's the thing to get that going. So yeah, 388 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 3: I want to. 389 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 2: Just showcase how I first of all, how I interpret 390 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: the music within, how I blend it, and then you know, 391 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: just giving the folks things that they didn't know that 392 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: they needed. 393 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 1: That's so true. I love it and I feel like 394 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: skating is a part of our culture, such a big part. 395 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 3: Of absolutely absolutely, because in Atlanta. 396 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: I live in Atlanta. Now I'm from Tennessee, but in Atlanta, 397 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: like Sunday nights is the skate night. Everybody makes their 398 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: way to Cascade or Sprinkles. It's another little or Sparkles. 399 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: There's another skate skating rinking Smirnou. Everybody goes there on Sunday. 400 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: It's a thing. And I sometimes I've been there with 401 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: friends and I'm like, I cannot do that. That is crazy. 402 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: I'm I mean, luckily, you know, you don't have to 403 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 2: necessarily know how to skate to pull up. I would 404 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: beseech use to, you know, get your own skate so 405 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: that you can at least learn. 406 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 3: You got to start somewhere. 407 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: But then just you know, just to be in the space. 408 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: You know, the music is gonna be dope. You know, 409 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: regardless if you're on your wheels or not, you're. 410 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: Gonna be Yeah. 411 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: No, that's fun. Yeah, I love that anything else you 412 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: have coming up that you're gonna be doing, any music 413 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: that you that you can tell us about. 414 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: I mean, well, so I'm doing a couple joint projects. 415 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 2: I wanted to do some cross promotion and I haven't 416 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: revealed who it is yet, knowing that like that is 417 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 2: no known, I just want to say that, but this 418 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: is some a group that I think is really dope, 419 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: and they have curated a sound for me that is 420 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: very cohesive. It's something I've been wanting to do. So yeah, 421 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: that'll that'll be out this year. 422 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: I love it as artists, I know. Sometimes I talked 423 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: about we've deal with imposter syndrome, We've deal with depression, 424 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: with different types of mental challenges throughout your journey, has 425 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: there been any moments or scenarios that you can share 426 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: with us that were difficult for you and how did 427 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: you see them through? 428 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: H I mean outside of you know, really just trying 429 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 3: to find my sound. I think the. 430 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 2: Biggest the other hurdle that would probably be the biggest 431 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: one would be just me coming into myself, yeah, and 432 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: finding you know, to be able to hang on to 433 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: my humanity and not detegrate myself or repress myself out 434 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 2: of you. 435 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: Know, just trying to be obedient, you. 436 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: Know, in a certain space, but then also coming to 437 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: a space where at least my mother was able to 438 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: affirm me in a way that let me know that 439 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,959 Speaker 2: there was nothing to fix because I wasn't broken. And 440 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 2: so now I'm able to, you know, have this this 441 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: new life being breathed into me, which. 442 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: Is like and love for myself. 443 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that is the confidence that I have because 444 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: it's all about the company that you keep as well. 445 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: Yes, and a lot of us have let our. 446 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: Relatives get away with things that we wouldn't let strangers 447 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: get away with. So we have to take the emphasis 448 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 2: off of that and learn to separate our relatives from 449 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: our family because they're. 450 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: Not the same. 451 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: They're not Ooh, that's strong. That is so real because 452 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: a lot of times we do put our family members 453 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: in a different box than we do other people, and 454 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: we let them get away with more than we would 455 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: let just any other anybody else in our lives. That 456 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: is so true. How have you navigated friendships through this journey, 457 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: because I mean, you've been doing this for a long time, 458 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's people that you have thought, like, 459 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: are you just around me because of who I'm attached 460 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: to you or are you here for me? 461 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? That you know. 462 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: That ebbs and flows, you know, especially being out in 463 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 2: the industry, being amongst it. It's one thing to be 464 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: in an environment where you're kind of like a shark 465 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: in a pond, and so a lot of focus might 466 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: be on you and the things that you're doing. But 467 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 2: then when you're in an environment where you're not the 468 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: only one doing what you're doing, and then finding people 469 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 2: that are either heading in the direction that you want 470 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: to be already there, I think there's a little you 471 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: come across people that have just as much to gain 472 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: in as much to lose, you know, so the dynamic 473 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: is a little different even with people that aren't necessarily known, 474 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: but they have shown themselves to be very dependable in 475 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 2: ways that I didn't think that I could depend on 476 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 2: a person that wasn't my parents, you know. So I 477 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: was like, man, okay, I clearly how I'm carrying myself 478 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: and the content of my character is so enriching that 479 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 2: people are opening their homes to me because you know, 480 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: I'm in between spots right now, or you know, so 481 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: I don't I never take that lightly. 482 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing being when you just said that, sometimes 483 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: you've been in between spots. Were there any moments where 484 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, my goodness, like I got to get 485 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: it together or because I know, for me, when I 486 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: moved from DC to Atlanta, it was a really hard 487 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: time for me. I moved from Capitol when I was 488 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: working on Capitol Hill, very secure job, and was like, 489 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: I want to be an actor and a musician and 490 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to move to Atlanta and do this thing. 491 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: And I got to Atlanta. It was one of the 492 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: hardest years of my entire life, and went through depression. 493 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: I went through doubt, you know, where I'm just like 494 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: it's just what I'm supposed to be doing. God, Like, 495 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: like you said before, like do I need to completely 496 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: like restructure this thing. Did you ever have moments in 497 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: the journey or where you were just like, oh, this 498 00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: is tough. 499 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: I was ubering and lifting for from like twenty sixteen 500 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty. 501 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: Wow, And yes, I was getting. 502 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: Recognized, yes, getting asked to sing, and I'm like, hey. 503 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 4: We're just supposed to get you from the point at 504 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: a point B that's. 505 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: Gonna cast you. 506 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 4: If you want to tell me, Yeah, stop playing my face. 507 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: There was one time where I ended. 508 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: Up all the way out in Calabasas, Wow, and I 509 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: needed to pull over because I was nodding, and I 510 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: thought to myself, I mean, I could go back to Cleveland. 511 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: My mother would love my company back in Cleveland. However, me, 512 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: the idea of me sleeping in my car out here 513 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: is more productive for what I'm trying to do then 514 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: going back to clean, being comfortable or somewhere where I've 515 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: now developed an animosity for being because i haven't gotten 516 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: to where I feel I need to be in my career, 517 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 2: being in the environment that I need to be in. 518 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: And so on and so forth, and I just have to like. 519 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 4: FuG that out for three hundred and seventy five days Jesus, 520 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 4: just not being. 521 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: Able to be comfortable and sleep in because I'm on 522 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: somebody's couch or I'm in a living you know, in 523 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: the common area, and when they get up for work, like. 524 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: Uh, what you doing? 525 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, unless it's a situation where 526 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: I've been working all night and then as I'm coming 527 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: in there leaving to go to work. Yeah, that was 528 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 2: another thing that that was actually pretty cool. 529 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: But yeah, other than that. 530 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's the grind, But then the grind is 531 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: the when you get into the hustle, there's a little 532 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: bit of like flow room. 533 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, do you find you finally found yourself in 534 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: a flo Now are you comfortable? 535 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: You know. 536 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: There was a there was a flow, and now it's 537 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: just go go, go, go, go, go go, which is 538 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: a good problem to have. I'm just not reaching for 539 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 2: moments of not having to do anything so that I 540 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: can really rest. 541 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: Yes, I wanted to ask you because he came. 542 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: Listen you listen, okay. 543 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: And even even seeing you know, certain people seeing me 544 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: right before I go on stage. Oh, there's been times 545 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: where I rolled out of bed, like twenty five minutes 546 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: before I have to be on stage. 547 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 3: And just it's like the do do do do do 548 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: do doo? Okay, Okay, I'm not I'm on. I'm on 549 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: okay right. 550 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: Here like that, That's what it feels like sometime when 551 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 2: you got them up. But yes, I would, I would, 552 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: But I would so much rather being tired and exhausted 553 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 2: from doing what I love, from doing what I like, 554 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: from doing what is effective in adding change, the change 555 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: that I would like to see in the world, and 556 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 2: that is also necessary. 557 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. Now are you finding any time to 558 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: balance it out and take time for you? I know 559 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: you said you would love to have time just to 560 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: lay down and do anything. Are you stilling those moments 561 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: at all to be like no, at least naps. 562 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: Good naps are just see we slept on naps. But yeah, 563 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 2: it's it's something that is absolutely necessary. I actually now 564 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: have that blocked out in my schedule when I'm like 565 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: on the road or whatever like this between I need 566 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: to be sleeping. 567 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: Ye. 568 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 2: So but that's that and getting massages deep tissues slash 569 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: sports massages specifically. 570 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: I have my massage SAPs is a sports trainer like 571 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: she does as sports therapy. 572 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: So and then and then stretch lab what have we met. 573 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Mama Si there was also trained like she certified in 574 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: stretch labs that she brings and everything so good. 575 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 2: So just those two things and IVY every so often. Yeah, 576 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: just just to keep yourself going because it's a lot 577 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: of wear and tear. It just bouncing from time zones 578 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: or three shows back to back, and they're all in 579 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: different cities. 580 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know so, and there might not be a bus, 581 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: it might be playing. 582 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, how has that hustling bustle 583 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: taken a toll on your mental and do you have 584 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: some onhe that you talk to? 585 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: Souse? 586 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: I know, for me, as my success and fame grew, 587 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 1: I found myself having more anxiety because it was just 588 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: like some people pulling at you, and it's a lot, 589 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh my goodness, like sometimes you 590 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: can't even hear your own thoughts and sometimes you need 591 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: to talk to somebody. Do you have something that you 592 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: talk to or have you been faced with that as 593 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: things start to go like that for you? 594 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: So luckily, I've never been in a position where I 595 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: didn't have anyone to talk to. 596 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: That's good. 597 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, love, very good counsel, and I have a 598 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: I have a great therapist, amazing. But yeah, for the 599 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 2: most part, I I have access to just safe spaces, uh, 600 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: to be able to not just be handed a yes 601 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: or what I they think I wanna hear, you know, 602 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: but yeah, to actually have a rapport with people that 603 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 2: have seen you at your best and will hold you 604 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: to that standard. 605 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, And you feel like 606 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: a safe space, you know, like some people you like 607 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: mm I don't know, but just even your energy is 608 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: very calming. It's almost like a jexposition from who you 609 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: are on stage to just sitting on the sofa like 610 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, unders like that, Like it tells like a 611 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: totally different person, and. 612 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: Also too, it's different dimensions of the same yes, person. 613 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: I would like to think that, you know, in certain spaces, 614 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: like being around Terrell, I will definitely be bouncing off 615 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: the walls because he's also bouncing off the walls. But 616 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 2: I feel it's also important for people to see the 617 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: different layers and dimensions of me where I can't sit 618 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: down and have a conversation and still be as engaging. 619 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 3: You know, or in tune. 620 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, I love that. I love that. Is 621 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: there anything that you would like to tell our audience 622 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: about you or anything that we may have missed that 623 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: you want to make sure we get across. So I 624 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: want to make sure anything that you want to talk 625 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: about we hit on it. 626 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 2: So we have a new project, I can Route Okay 627 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: for the Fancy Girls en Route Okay, and it's a 628 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: story about a road trip. You know, we're going from 629 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 2: one one destination to the other, and we have stories 630 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: to tell in the midst we're making sure that even 631 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 2: on this journey of ours, we make sure that we 632 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: make time for rest. 633 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 3: Yes, because in the work in the rest. 634 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: That's a bar scroll that around the bottom. 635 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: Must do that and take time to really just take 636 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: in what's going to be present, so present that nostalgia 637 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 2: won't kick your ass and tomorrow we'll not worry, you know. 638 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 3: I love that. 639 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: That's and then before you know, at fifteen twenty years 640 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: then went by friendship or just being you know, in 641 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: a certain environment that you've been able to you know, 642 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: decorate and make your own right. 643 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love it. I love it so much. 644 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 7: So I have a song on the top fifty dance 645 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 7: Billboard charts and that is with mister k Sernadi. 646 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: That's huge. 647 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I've been We've been sitting on that since twenty twenty. 648 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: Are you serious? Isn't that crazy? How like some of 649 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: the greatest hits can be set on for a while 650 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: and you're like, we need to put this out? What 651 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: made you guys put it this out? 652 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 3: Now? 653 00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 1: Is it time to put it out? 654 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: So we were just recording, went back into the lab 655 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: after Bubba the last project, and he was just collecting 656 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: songs and then one month he. 657 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 3: Hit me up and was like, Okay, it's time to 658 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: get weird. 659 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: And I was just like fine, like yes, and it 660 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: already cracked a million streams. 661 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: Wow. 662 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this has been This has been a very 663 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 2: productive year thus far. And I really didn't have any 664 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 2: other intentions other than what adventures are we going to 665 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 2: go on this? You know, let's go around. That's that's 666 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: that's the best I got. 667 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: I love it. This is amazing. I'm happy for you. 668 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, yes, thank you so much. Absolutely So 669 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: before we close out, if you want to hang out 670 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: with just a little bit longer, we do what it's 671 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: called positive outcomes, where our listeners write in and we 672 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: give them advice what they write about. All right, so 673 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: this one says, Hi, Crystal. My name is Mariah and 674 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm twenty six. I'm an aspiring screenwriter author. Someday I 675 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: feel so confident, like I had the skill and ability 676 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: and do more than I'm capable. Then other days I 677 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: feel where I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough, 678 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: and I just like to give up. Most people don't 679 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: know this, but I suffer from schizophrenia, so it's double 680 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: the intrusive thoughts and I'm constantly getting beaten down by 681 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: my own mind. About a year ago, I started a 682 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: new journey of getting to know God all over again, 683 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: thanks to you and Change Church, of course. All it 684 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: felt so refreshing and my mind was finally starting to 685 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 1: be at ease. That was until I lost my sister 686 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: and everything was back to square one. Now I'm back 687 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: to constantly overthinking, feeling worthless, and I don't know how 688 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: to shake back. I don't really deal with death like 689 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: anyone else. I tend to just let it fade away 690 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: and not really face it. But it's tear me apart mentally. 691 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 1: Do you have any advice on how to keep your 692 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: faith and keep it positive while grieving. I'm losing this 693 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: battle with myself and I'm really trying to stay afloat. Wow, Mariah, 694 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much for writing in and I am 695 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 1: m so sorry for your loss. I I'm not very 696 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: knowledgeable in schizophrenia, but I'm sure that, like you're saying it, 697 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: you have the double the intrusive thoughts, and then you're 698 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: condantly beating yourself down with your own mind. I can't 699 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: imagine what that battle is like, like an internal battle 700 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: that you're having but what I will say is that 701 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: one I feel like you should m definitely find the 702 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: professional help that can help you either balance that or 703 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: medication or any type of holistic route that you can 704 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: take to kind of battle that schizophrenia. And then when 705 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: it comes to loss, everybody deals with group differently, and 706 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna have days where you're okay in days where 707 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: you're not. It just it comes and goes. I know 708 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: I can attest to that, but I would say that 709 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: I would pray because death is a part of life, 710 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of times we hold on 711 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: to people want them to be here forever, and then 712 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: we allow it to affect us in a way when 713 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: we know that eventually we're going to go with sometime. 714 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 1: So I would find the reality and death and then 715 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,479 Speaker 1: look at the amazing moments and memories that you built 716 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: with your sister and focus on that and not the 717 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: loss as an entirety. I would also say to continue 718 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: to work on your relationship with God, continue to be 719 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: around like minded, positive people that can inspire you and 720 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: encourage you to think good of yourself. To tell you 721 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: the hastis come on, let's go out, don't stay in 722 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: the house. Let's have some fun, anything that you can 723 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: do to keep your mind off of the loss that 724 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: you had and continue to move forward. When would you 725 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: tell her. 726 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: That last part was key? 727 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: When we're dealing with loss or change in that way, 728 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 2: it's important for us to be around people that are 729 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: going to uplift us, that are going to and I 730 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: guess in environments where even if the waves do come, 731 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 2: we can't revel in it too long, you know, yes, 732 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 2: whether that's getting out and going hiking or you know, 733 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 2: going skating, you know, just again being around your folks 734 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 2: that you know you're going to get a laugh out of. 735 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 3: I think that's really that's that's so key. 736 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: And I know I talk about the destination and the journey, 737 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: but really it's it's truly about. 738 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 3: The company that you have along the way. 739 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 2: It is like I look at I look at life 740 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 2: as sometimes like a job that we really don't like working. 741 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 2: But if you know your homegirl Lisa is working that shift, 742 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: it's like, oh okay, okay, bad like so. 743 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 3: Look at it like that. 744 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 2: Make sure that the folks that you need to be 745 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: there in that time are working that shift. 746 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: That's good. Thank you so much for that, all right, 747 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: So We also like to ask our guests if there's 748 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: something they're going through and what they're growing through. What 749 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: are you going through and growing through in this season 750 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: in your life? 751 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: Going through? I'm going through these different tiers of my 752 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 2: career where I'm grateful enough to be able to to 753 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 2: kind of get acclimated with what's going on before I 754 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: go to the next one, because I mean I could 755 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: drop a song and then you know, six months later, 756 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 2: the trajectory of my career is just completely a one eighty. 757 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 2: So just making sure that I have people around me 758 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 2: that I can that can keep me grounded. 759 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And what else? What am I growing through? 760 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 2: I guess just finding other things out about myself. You know, 761 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 2: what are some other healthy outlets that I can find? 762 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 2: What are some people that I haven't met that I 763 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: could really use them around, you know, vice versa. 764 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 3: You know. 765 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the main thing is just to be. 766 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: As president as possible. Yeah, that's that's good. Yeah. 767 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: I like that it close out. We do this thing 768 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: where we fill in the blank, keep it blank, sweetie. 769 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 3: Okay, and for. 770 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: This episode, I am going to say, keep it creative, sweetie. 771 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: Where would you tell the people? 772 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: Keep it audacious? Period. 773 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: That's the word, honey, sweetie, Yes. 774 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: My therapist let me know you have the audacity to 775 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: be yourself. 776 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: Yes, and it's beautiful and the world needs more of that. 777 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate you, guys. Thank you 778 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: so much for tuning into this episode to keep it positive, sweetie. 779 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: If you want to write into our Positive Outcomes listener letter, 780 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: you can write into keep it Positive sweety at gmail 781 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: dot com and that's Sweetye with an Ie. You can 782 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: follow me on all platforms that love christorinate and that's 783 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: l u v Duran tells people that can find you. 784 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 7: They can find me on the tiktoks and on the 785 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 7: I jeens. 786 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 3: And on Twitter. Okay, your mama named your Twitter. That's 787 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: one gonna call you. 788 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 2: Uh, that's d u r rah a n d b 789 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 2: e r rah n a rah rah. Okay, the not 790 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 2: so quotes come on your favor because I know your 791 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: daddy side. Okay, don't you forget it. 792 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: Don't you forget it? All right, guys, that's it for 793 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: this episode. In the meantime, in between time, you know 794 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 1: what to do. Keep it positive, sweetie. Love you, guys, Delord, 795 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: thank you so much for this opportunity. Thank you for 796 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: the blessing of just waking up every single day, Dear God, 797 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: and continue to live in our purpose. I asked that 798 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: you just blessed this conversation. Let someone be inspired, let 799 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: someone be healed, and let someone see themselves in us, 800 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: Dear God, because you know that we are nothing without 801 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: You and Jesus. Then we pray Amen a shay