Speaker 1: Welcome in another episode of Texan's Huddle. I am indeed
Speaker 1: she is DP and Dalton Schultz in the seat to
Speaker 1: my right after a huge game. This guy knows a
Speaker 1: thing or two about catching the ball, scoring touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: we're happy he's doing it with the Houston Texas.
Speaker 2: Welcome to Texans Huddle.
Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm good man, Thank you much you
Speaker 3: having me. That's a heck of an intro.
Speaker 4: That's how we do here on Texans Hudle.
Speaker 5: I've actually had the pleasure of sitting with Dalton one
Speaker 5: on one over in the corner and our little podcast
Speaker 5: set up for the Deep Slants. So it's been a
Speaker 5: lot of fun just sort of getting to know you
Speaker 5: and cover you this year. But I feel like this
Speaker 5: team where it's at now. I mean, I just known
Speaker 5: my ten years of covering this team. That was a
Speaker 5: fun one on Sunday. That was one of the best
Speaker 5: home wins. I want to know what your thoughts are,
Speaker 5: just even in game, it seemed like the way the
Speaker 5: game started. You've talked about this a little bit. You
Speaker 5: had the fumble to start off, then you come back
Speaker 5: with a touchdown. I feel like that was almost so
Speaker 5: long ago. By the time the game ended, I thought
Speaker 5: this was all in the same game, Like we went
Speaker 5: through this whole roller coaster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as a player, like, that's exactly what you
Speaker 3: try to stay out of, is like the ups and
Speaker 3: downs and the roller coaster that you know, I'm sure
Speaker 3: fans feel like as players, it's like you do your
Speaker 3: best to kind of stay pretty much on one level,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I mean you've been there,
Speaker 3: Like it's I mean, games are very momentum based too.
Speaker 3: It's like you can feel, you know, swings, and you
Speaker 3: got to do your best to keep a levelhead and
Speaker 3: you know, don't ride the highs and lows too much.
Speaker 3: And obviously I think we did that pretty well.
Speaker 2: I want to go a little bit further back.
Speaker 1: I grew up in San Antonio and that's Cowboy Country,
Speaker 1: so obviously very familiar with what you've done, with what
Speaker 1: you've accomplished. You balled out in Dallas, and when I
Speaker 1: heard that you were coming here, I had to do
Speaker 1: a double take. I'm like, no, they would have let
Speaker 1: him leave. Like, were you surprised that they allowed you
Speaker 1: to get away?
Speaker 5: Ah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I was, so was I.
Speaker 1: Like, what was the conversation and I'm not just you know,
Speaker 1: catering to you because you're sitting here. Like I said,
Speaker 1: watched a lot of Dallas Cowboy football, and you know,
Speaker 1: I just assumed you would have been locked up and
Speaker 1: they like, what was the was your agent saying, hey,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that you might Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean they were they wanted to get something done
Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one, and then they put me on
Speaker 3: the tag and then it was like still that same
Speaker 3: mindset and then it just never came to fruition. And
Speaker 3: I mean that's that's just the business of this league sometimes,
Speaker 3: like you know, people say one thing and do another,
Speaker 3: and like you just kind of kind of roll with
Speaker 3: the punches. But yeah, I mean, obviously I have a
Speaker 3: great opportunity here. I love coming in in this offense
Speaker 3: and I think we have a great quarterback which kind
Speaker 3: of makes the offense go. But yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: business is business, and you know, luckily I you know,
Speaker 3: Houston came in and offered me a contract and you know,
Speaker 3: take it and we roll from there.
Speaker 1: When do you get past like the initial disappointment, you know,
Speaker 1: And I don't want to dwell on it, because like
Speaker 1: you said, there are times where even in my where
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, I'm set for life. Then they're
Speaker 1: gonna call when you get past it and say, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm moving on them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, dude, it was a hard week
Speaker 3: like free agency. You know, you think it's gonna be
Speaker 3: like a big thing and then you know it's it's
Speaker 3: almost kind of like a repeat a draft day where
Speaker 3: it's like you know, you're waiting on a waiting on
Speaker 3: a phone call, waiting on something something, and days go
Speaker 3: by and it's like nothing, and then you know, finally
Speaker 3: you get something and it's like, oh my god, if
Speaker 3: that takes like three weeks or what like. But yeah, man,
Speaker 3: it's it's hard. And again with anything like I kind
Speaker 3: of take that you know on the field mindset to life.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you can ride the peaks and
Speaker 3: valleys or you can kind of you know, make the
Speaker 3: most of what you got and where you're at, and
Speaker 3: you know, be where your feet are and in those moments,
Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously having two kids and a
Speaker 3: wife like to kind of help you through the those
Speaker 3: kinds of times, like keep your levelhead a bit. That
Speaker 3: was a big time for me at that moment, because dude,
Speaker 3: it's it's hard, you know. I mean, you've been there,
Speaker 3: so like, you know, you know how it feels.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of Texans fans were very excited
Speaker 5: that it wasn't just you, but you and your former
Speaker 5: teammate Noel Brown.
Speaker 4: You guys both signed here this offseason. How much should
Speaker 4: that help?
Speaker 5: Just having a guy that knew you and Dallas, you
Speaker 5: guys know each other. You're not the only new player
Speaker 5: coming in, but the two of you very familiar with
Speaker 5: each other, get to start here together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's uh, when I first got here
Speaker 3: is kind of settling a little bit, you know, like
Speaker 3: it's nice to come in with another guy to be
Speaker 3: like oh wow, like that this is different or like hey,
Speaker 3: this is this is way better, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like you have something to compare. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: You have somebody to kind of that understands your same
Speaker 3: perspective on you know, the differences in that transitionary period
Speaker 3: from one organization to the other. And I think that
Speaker 3: you know that helped me transition, like to a new
Speaker 3: orc is having a you know, guy that I I've
Speaker 3: already played with, familiar face and so yeah, that was.
Speaker 3: That was nice, to say the least.
Speaker 5: I remember in twenty nineteen when Laramy Tunsel was traded
Speaker 5: here as a part of that trade was also Kenny
Speaker 5: still is a wide receiver, and I remember talking to
Speaker 5: I want to say, I was talking to Kenny and
Speaker 5: he said, it's just so nice to have like they
Speaker 5: were really good friends in Miami, but to get traded,
Speaker 5: as I would imagine a similar feeling, like you just
Speaker 5: the uncertainty of it all. You're in one place and
Speaker 5: all of a sudden you're not. But the two of
Speaker 5: them really comparing notes on how things were different here
Speaker 5: and the team was really good, so they were excited
Speaker 5: to be a part of a lot of winning.
Speaker 4: That was an adjustment for them.
Speaker 5: They were coming from an organization where they were they
Speaker 5: were not in the same situation. But now the two
Speaker 5: of you are clicking, You're rolling. Both of you guys
Speaker 5: had big games on Sunday. Have you two sort of
Speaker 5: talked about I know, I feel like your relationship with him.
Speaker 5: I'd never heard you talk about him until Monday. You
Speaker 5: had sort of seen his journey as well, Like what
Speaker 5: have you thought about just how the offense has progressed
Speaker 5: so far?
Speaker 4: Through these first few games.
Speaker 3: I mean in terms of like overall offense, I mean
Speaker 3: it's been so much more like smooth, even though at
Speaker 3: times like sometimes it doesn't feel like that for guys.
Speaker 3: But like looking from week one to like week eight
Speaker 3: or nine, whatever we had to buy, so I don't
Speaker 3: I don't even know what we get. It's probably half yeah,
Speaker 3: so whatever, you know, going from week one to now,
Speaker 3: it's just everything is so smooth. CJ's done a great
Speaker 3: job of like because dude, as a rookie quarterback, like
Speaker 3: you have a lot on your plate. I mean there's
Speaker 3: a reason he's got a wristband out there, Like these
Speaker 3: calls are super wordy in this you know scheme, and
Speaker 3: so I think that you know, hearing the play call,
Speaker 3: getting it in and out like that's been you know,
Speaker 3: huge in just allowing us to kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: operate more efficiently getting in and out. And I think
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like you have a
Speaker 3: quarterback who's like dealing like that kid is right now,
Speaker 3: it's you know, everybody else's job gets a lot easier
Speaker 3: because now it's just like hey, you know, tank run
Speaker 3: of the you know, run on the back corner of
Speaker 3: the end zone, close your eyes and put your hands out.
Speaker 3: You know, CG is gonna put a ball right there.
Speaker 3: So like, I think it's you know, there's a lot
Speaker 3: of confidence building just you know, between the guys and
Speaker 3: in the scheme. And I think especially like between the
Speaker 3: coaching staff and the players, like you know, they're starting
Speaker 3: to kind of get a lot of confidence in guys
Speaker 3: being able to make plays. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll call shots for three four five different guys, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And it's like everybody's kind of got,
Speaker 3: you know, a chance to make a big impact, impact
Speaker 3: play in a game. And you know that comes from
Speaker 3: trusting in each other, but also the coaching staff trusting
Speaker 3: in the players and vice versa. So I think we're
Speaker 3: taking steps in the in the right direction for sure.
Speaker 3: We just got to keep the thing, keep the thing going.
Speaker 5: Can we just talk about CJ for a second, because
Speaker 5: I feel like you, of all people, like being just
Speaker 5: a veteran in your position, like, what have you thought
Speaker 5: about just what he's done on so far and especially
Speaker 5: this game against Tampa Bay? Just yeah, I mean adjustments
Speaker 5: that a new starting center. There's no kicker You've got
Speaker 5: Damian pierce out all that aside. You know, what have
Speaker 5: you thought about just his composure?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think CJ's dude, he's a gamer. Like you know,
Speaker 3: you see, you know, everybody you know has a couple
Speaker 3: reps in practice where it's like holy, holy crap, you know,
Speaker 3: and you see glimpses and like everybody's you know, seeing
Speaker 3: good plays and like great plays throughout training camp and OTAs,
Speaker 3: and then it's like you turn the game film on
Speaker 3: and it's like throw after throw after throw after big
Speaker 3: play aft Like dude, we ran we ran a play
Speaker 3: where like you know, the running back kicks it out
Speaker 3: the backside and like CJ is trying to throw a
Speaker 3: block and like, you know, we pitch it up.
Speaker 6: That's just like it's just crazy like and so I think,
Speaker 6: you know, when guys are able to kind of you know,
Speaker 6: trust in you know, the scheme and the players, and
Speaker 6: especially in CJ, I mean shoot, plays like that just
Speaker 6: kind of seemed natural almost, And I mean we haven't
Speaker 6: talked about like that play.
Speaker 3: I haven't heard Bobby's.
Speaker 4: I've seen it on Twitter.
Speaker 5: Well, I just saw people saying like it looks like
Speaker 5: Bobby slows having fun if he's trying stuff like that
Speaker 5: Singletary pitches it back out to CJJ runs rolls out
Speaker 5: to his left right. Is that the one you're talking about? Yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like there's so many other storylines.
Speaker 4: I was like, was that my design?
Speaker 3: Because I was just it's just how.
Speaker 5: I mean, what about that last drive? I mean, it
Speaker 5: seemed like there was a lot of drawing up on that.
Speaker 5: I heard CG talk about it a little bit like
Speaker 5: on the sideline throwing up the play final Was it
Speaker 5: the touchdown? That was the play that was drawn up
Speaker 5: on the sideline or was it No?
Speaker 3: Because like we've had we've had a we've had that
Speaker 3: play and we've wrapped it, you know a few times
Speaker 3: over the year, but we didn't have it like installed
Speaker 3: for that week. Got it like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like a hey, like we've we've
Speaker 3: done this, like we might need it, like just we
Speaker 3: you know, we talk about it, and it's like, again,
Speaker 3: coaches have trust in players that you know, even though
Speaker 3: we haven't gotten a rep at it Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 3: we've done it, can y'all go execute it? And so
Speaker 3: again it's those stat ability to you know, make things
Speaker 3: happen when you need a play like that, and I
Speaker 3: think you got a quarterback that can make it happen,
Speaker 3: like you know Anything's.
Speaker 1: What was the biggest hurdle for you? Was it determinology?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: You know what's the volume?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 2: The volume volume?
Speaker 3: Like I've never had like when I first got here.
Speaker 3: The formation she like they give you like a little index,
Speaker 3: they give you a little index cards and it's this
Speaker 3: and then another one. Wow, and so it's.
Speaker 5: Like three He's saying, like.
Speaker 3: Like a stack of just like formation monology.
Speaker 4: How much is it? What's like what's normal for people
Speaker 4: that don't know?
Speaker 3: Like I mean, see, that's the thing is I've only
Speaker 3: been in a like one other system in the NFL,
Speaker 3: so like I don't have a bunch of different systems
Speaker 3: to compare it to. But like it's a lot more
Speaker 3: coming from like what I came from. I mean, shoot,
Speaker 3: we maybe had half.
Speaker 5: Okay, maybe this explains why in camp I remember, I
Speaker 5: want to say it was Dan Pier's like the Bible.
Speaker 4: He said, Oh, it's just we've done the Testament.
Speaker 3: It's all great, and it's all really good stuff, and
Speaker 3: like it's necessary, like you need to be able to
Speaker 3: put people in different spots and do different things, or
Speaker 3: else you're gonna have to be changing personnels and coming
Speaker 3: up with specific personnel groupings. Like it's much easier to
Speaker 3: just call it it, call it a different formation, like
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's just getting over the pure
Speaker 3: sheer volume of like the memorization stuff that you have
Speaker 3: to do when you first get into a system like this,
Speaker 3: And so I think once you get over that hump,
Speaker 3: then everything else becomes okay, Like now we can now
Speaker 3: that I know what these words mean, I can start
Speaker 3: focusing on, like, Okay, how do I how do I
Speaker 3: beat you know, the guy in front of me, instead
Speaker 3: of worrying about you know, what the hell I gotta do.
Speaker 2: Sure everyone learns different.
Speaker 1: Obviously you're learned the guy going to Stanford, you know
Speaker 1: how to learn things and realize things. What was your approach?
Speaker 1: Is it the cliff notes? Is it just kind of
Speaker 1: reviewing it and closing your eyes and making yourself making
Speaker 1: sure you can repeat.
Speaker 3: Reading calls and like going through it in your mind
Speaker 3: and then like checking the picture. Like that's one way.
Speaker 3: But like at the end of the day, and I
Speaker 3: told my position coach this when I first got here.
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, like I'm gonna have to like screw.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to screw things up like a couple
Speaker 3: of times in practice like not you know, a different different, different,
Speaker 3: different plays, but like you know, I'm I'm gonna need
Speaker 3: that moment of like, oh crap, like it was this
Speaker 3: and I did.
Speaker 4: That, like shoot, because then you'll remember it, right, yeah.
Speaker 3: Because it's like it's those moments that like I will
Speaker 3: never forget because like the embarrassment of like messing things
Speaker 3: up like.
Speaker 4: That, you don't want to miss it, make a mistake again.
Speaker 3: And I think that's just how I learned. Obviously, you
Speaker 3: do your best not to ever get in those situations,
Speaker 3: but like when those happen, you never at least I
Speaker 3: never forget. I think CJ. CJ is kind of the
Speaker 3: same way too. He's he said that multiple times. It's
Speaker 3: like he he talks about like defensive coverages and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: once I've seen that, like ya' gonna get me again.
Speaker 4: It's amazing because he's a rookie. You got Tank, who's
Speaker 4: a rookie.
Speaker 5: I mean, everyone's new in the system, Like I guess
Speaker 5: we don't even give enough appreciation of the fact that,
Speaker 5: like you're a veteran saying it's so hard to learn
Speaker 5: all these formations.
Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's a lot. It's just a lot.
Speaker 2: Is it necessary? Is it necessary?
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to get you on here to say, oh,
Speaker 1: it's not necessary what we do, but you know, do
Speaker 1: you need that many variations and formations to throw the
Speaker 1: defense off.
Speaker 3: Or especially in this offense, Like everybody can play everywhere.
Speaker 3: I can do everything. So it's like Bobby wants to
Speaker 3: put a certain person in some spot to do a
Speaker 3: certain thing. Like Bobby's gonna find a way to do that.
Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, that's completely necessary.
Speaker 1: You said everyone can do everything. We already saw a
Speaker 1: running back, play kicker outside of tight end if you
Speaker 1: weren't a tight end in the Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think becks are emergency long snapper. But I might
Speaker 3: be able to be an emergency long snapper. Yeah, because
Speaker 3: I snapped, Like I was the pseudo emergency guy for
Speaker 3: the last few years. We never needed that, but like
Speaker 3: I could go in there and.
Speaker 4: Like snap, how did you figure out that you could
Speaker 4: do that?
Speaker 3: I played center growing up, and so like my college
Speaker 3: coaches were like, hey, like you should try to snapping,
Speaker 3: and like I just kind of did it as like
Speaker 3: a you know, like sure, why not? And like you know,
Speaker 3: I was solid at it. I'm not great like but
Speaker 3: like I'm I feel like I'm serviceable. So we'll see.
Speaker 3: I don't know, easier said than done. Dude, on a
Speaker 3: punt and you got a guy fifteen yards behind you,
Speaker 3: like it's tough, man, Like it's a long way for
Speaker 3: that ball to travel.
Speaker 1: So you played center center like I played center center
Speaker 1: growing up from eight to eight thirteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, then you move to what position?
Speaker 1: Outside backer and tight end? Okay, what do you enjoy more?
Speaker 1: What did you enjoy more than that end?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: Sure? I was actually d dude, outside backer was kind
Speaker 3: of fun, like because there was like I remember in
Speaker 3: a game in Little league, they try to they try
Speaker 3: to throw like a little you know, screen pass, like
Speaker 3: a one step to the receiver and like I tipped
Speaker 3: it and picked it off. Like so like, outside backer
Speaker 3: was fun. But dude' scorn touchdowns great, like especially coming
Speaker 3: from like an old lineman background, like come.
Speaker 4: On, the balls in your hands.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean? Like that was a
Speaker 3: best part about being centered is like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Like I get to touch the ball eight nine years old.
Speaker 3: You're like, I get to touch the ball every play.
Speaker 1: Well, you have to be in a system that utilizes
Speaker 1: the tighten because Stanford didn't utilize the tight end like
Speaker 1: they should in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Then you go to DA then you get more passing wise,
Speaker 2: that's what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not blocking, I mean, dude, freaking That's why I
Speaker 3: went to Stanford.
Speaker 1: Though, Yet you like you were targeted more as a
Speaker 1: pro than you.
Speaker 3: Were Christian McCaffery, Brice Love in the backfield. You know what,
Speaker 3: I remember we were running power like all day every day.
Speaker 2: So you didn't mind that. Hell no, you know that
Speaker 2: that's the sign of a good teammate.
Speaker 3: Tight end blocking is hell of fun. Like blocking is
Speaker 3: a great time.
Speaker 1: Most tight ends nowadays don't say that I just wanted
Speaker 1: to catch the ball and get all the glory, like
Speaker 1: actually appreciate hearing.
Speaker 3: No, that's that's amazing. That was like one of the
Speaker 3: because that's the offense that I grew up in in
Speaker 3: like high school. Is like we were kind of the same.
Speaker 3: We were like power owner. I so like, you know,
Speaker 3: some rollouts seam benders, but like it was very much
Speaker 3: like a downhill like power scheme. So like I was like,
Speaker 3: I've done this all my life, Stanford does it. Like
Speaker 3: I was actually the one that reached out to Stanford
Speaker 3: because I'm like, dude, y'all are losing or losing freaking
Speaker 3: Levine to a Lolo Kolby Fleeener, Ryan Hewitt zach Ertz
Speaker 3: like all in one formation, Like y'all got like four
Speaker 3: guys out on the field like playing running power and
Speaker 3: that's splitting people out and throwing freaking deep balls. Like
Speaker 3: so I don't know that was that was the best
Speaker 3: of both the worlds to me, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1: We talked to a lot of people and for someone
Speaker 1: to be like, man, I love blocking.
Speaker 2: That's that a lot, dude.
Speaker 3: It's fun.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: As a former defensive lineman, I like I like the trenches,
Speaker 1: but I just don't hear that from tight ends anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, dude, it's like that's all you take an offensive
Speaker 3: lineman and like you sit them down.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 3: It's a great feeling, right, It's like one of the
Speaker 3: best feelings in ball, like catch and touchdown is great,
Speaker 3: but like like like putting somebody on their back, bro,
Speaker 3: like when you know when like when you know he's
Speaker 3: trying to get through and you'd like shut him down.
Speaker 5: Bro's can I ask you what your favorite block that
Speaker 5: you've ever landed has been.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna have to come back to that because okay,
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta search the archives and in the brain.
Speaker 3: Maybe after the break you think about.
Speaker 1: It, you can settle a debate. Do you remember Germany
Speaker 1: shocking that name? Yeah? Yeah, from Miami. So when I
Speaker 1: was in Philly and he's in the Giants, he's blocking me,
Speaker 1: he's doing a good job, but.
Speaker 2: I tripped over.
Speaker 3: The happens so much.
Speaker 1: I tripped over like a receiver, so it looked like
Speaker 1: a pancake, and he's on top of me like, yeah, caloo,
Speaker 1: I got you. I said, now that doesn't count. I tripped,
Speaker 1: he said. This is in the middle of a play,
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, it's still a pancake. And we're arguing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, na, Germy, that's not a pancake. So as
Speaker 1: a tight end, is that a pancake?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're under graduated.
Speaker 3: So literally, so listen these so granted, like you can
Speaker 3: tell like when you when a guy gets foot trafficked,
Speaker 3: Like when you're watching film and you see somebody like
Speaker 3: hit the ground hard, like you kind of got to
Speaker 3: rewind it and go like, okay, like did that guy
Speaker 3: like take his soul or did something happen right? And
Speaker 3: like most of the time it's foot traffic, like a
Speaker 3: guy's foot will get stepped on or like caught on
Speaker 3: somebody else's foot, guy gets off balance, boom. But like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 3: that cake, that's football on the other side. I'm on
Speaker 3: the other side of stuff like that, and like yeah,
Speaker 3: like that that just still counts for them.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to call him that you got me, Jeremy,
Speaker 1: because uh, you know, it was funny. It wasn't funny
Speaker 1: at the time because I was how many people saw
Speaker 1: that on national television. But we've always had that debate
Speaker 1: whether or not it's a pancake if the foot traffic
Speaker 1: we didn't use that term, if you trip over somebody's foot,
Speaker 1: So all right, Golden Schultz says, it's still a pancake.
Speaker 4: No, it's still a pancake for him.
Speaker 5: And if you speaking of emergency rules, if you ever
Speaker 5: had to play an emergency role on offense, what would
Speaker 5: it be?
Speaker 2: You know, what I always thought I could play tight end.
Speaker 1: And in high school, yeah, I went to a big
Speaker 1: school and they didn't just let us go both ways,
Speaker 1: you know, play both ways. But during the spring game,
Speaker 1: I asked my coach let me play tight end during
Speaker 1: the spring game. And it was fun. But just like
Speaker 1: you said, it's very tough. Like to me, running the
Speaker 1: routes catching the balls easier than the blocking. I never
Speaker 1: understood how.
Speaker 3: You get that at this level, Like, oh I could.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine doing a level like trying to.
Speaker 5: Learn it seems like you have to learn a lot
Speaker 5: of different types of thing. You know, it's a it's
Speaker 5: a very skill set that's.
Speaker 3: Usually like the hardest transition for guys. Like when you
Speaker 3: first come in, it's like, dude, you're twenty one, twenty
Speaker 3: two years old, Like blocking a dude who's thirty four
Speaker 3: with six kids, you know, like he's blocking grown man,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's different than blocking like
Speaker 3: you know, another kid who's twenty twenty one. So I
Speaker 3: think just that transition of like okay, like I gotta
Speaker 3: get I can put my dad pants on, you know,
Speaker 3: come to work. But yeah, I would say I'm with you,
Speaker 3: on that.
Speaker 1: The blacking what I never understood, Like you can't be
Speaker 1: overly aggressive, right, you have to position yourself and get aggressive.
Speaker 1: So are there certain things you practice for that? Because
Speaker 1: it's easy to down black if you just you know,
Speaker 1: aggressively hit someone down. But when they're head up on you, Like,
Speaker 1: are you kind of doing like a read technique?
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, Like that's what made JJ and honestly that's TJ.
Speaker 3: Watts so good. It's like they'll like light you up
Speaker 3: on play in the very next play the one step
Speaker 3: swim or like one step avoid. It's like you get
Speaker 3: too head heavy, like you're literally just gonna fall on
Speaker 3: your face and look like an idiot. So like those
Speaker 3: guys that kind of mix it up and are able
Speaker 3: to do both, like they make they make our jobs
Speaker 3: hard because like now you don't know what you're getting
Speaker 3: all the time. I feel like I'm shouldn't be giving
Speaker 3: off the trade that.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can give that secret out, but it's
Speaker 5: hard to prepare for, like a variation of you know
Speaker 5: how a guy's going to come at you, you know
Speaker 5: his like arsenal moves, which is what I would imagine
Speaker 5: defensive linemen and pass rushers are always working on That's why
Speaker 5: I always hear they're working on different types of moves
Speaker 5: and trying to have us pull out a surprise move
Speaker 5: and practice everynd there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's got like one move that like you got
Speaker 3: to prepare for, and then they'll have two or three offsets.
Speaker 3: So like you know, it's like it's a pitcher. It's
Speaker 3: like you know, everything everything works off your fastball. You
Speaker 3: got a really good fastball. Now your curve is way
Speaker 3: harder to hit. Now your slider is really hard to hit.
Speaker 3: Like those are your offsets, your change up like the changes,
Speaker 3: but the fastball is your one move that it's like,
Speaker 3: good luck, buddy, hit this, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So like more guys can like switch those things up,
Speaker 3: like the harder they are to play against.
Speaker 1: And on the flip side, you have defensive lineman study
Speaker 1: to tie it in and you can tell when he's
Speaker 1: going to go out for a past route if he
Speaker 1: gets lazy with his things, or you could tell when
Speaker 1: he's going to stay in and blocked. So you know,
Speaker 1: the way they look at defensive ends and edge rushers,
Speaker 1: that's how we look at tight ends. All right, we're
Speaker 1: going to take a quick time time out. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz in the house. I want to talk a
Speaker 1: little college because you know, I've always had a respect
Speaker 1: for the true student athletes and a guy who went
Speaker 1: to Stanford. You know it's not quite Rice University, but
Speaker 1: you know they say.
Speaker 2: It's the rights.
Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk about that experience and so much more.
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz joined us in the Texans Huddle. Don't touch
Speaker 1: that down, welcome in, Welcome back, Texans Huddle. I am
Speaker 1: indeed she is DP. Dalton Schultz sitting at the desk,
Speaker 1: and we appreciate the time we have with him. I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk a little bit about your collegiate career
Speaker 1: and some of the you know, just what it was like.
Speaker 1: And I hate to admit when I talk to some
Speaker 1: of these college kids now and I get a chance to,
Speaker 1: you know, spend days with him, I find myself saying,
Speaker 1: when do you study? But I know that's not the
Speaker 1: case in Stanford. So just kind of let us know
Speaker 1: what that was like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was very clear, like from the start,
Speaker 3: that's like no, like y'all are going to class, y'all
Speaker 3: are doing y'all's own work, Like there's no no shortcuts,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Do the coaches appreciate that? And like if you're going
Speaker 1: to be late to practice because of a lab.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's real. So like dude, our practices
Speaker 3: sometimes would be at six thirty five thirty, six thirty
Speaker 3: because you'd have to wait for like you know, six
Speaker 3: guys who are starters who are like in Humbio labs.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Like you know what I mean. It's so
Speaker 3: like they would make the practice schedule later or offset
Speaker 3: whatever just to make sure that guys could like make
Speaker 3: it to practice. Like you'd go in and early early
Speaker 3: morning for like a special teams meeting in the morning,
Speaker 3: go to breakfast, go to class, go about your school day,
Speaker 3: hit a lift somewhere in there, whether it's early morning
Speaker 3: or like you know, middle of the day, you know,
Speaker 3: go to another class, and then it's like you go
Speaker 3: back in for your install meeting and then practice it
Speaker 3: in the evening. I remember getting off the field at
Speaker 3: you know, seven thirty eight o'clock and it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: you go in and you get changed up, and you're
Speaker 3: leaving the building by like nine it's dark eys, and
Speaker 3: you're like, shit, I gotta get dinner, Like I still
Speaker 3: got to eat.
Speaker 5: You've got like tests and homework, and you got to
Speaker 5: figure out a time to study all that.
Speaker 3: You're so your freshman year you have god, what is
Speaker 3: it as some hour you have to you have to
Speaker 3: do study hall. You have to go into like the
Speaker 3: study hall building and sign in and literally like just
Speaker 3: sit in there and study for you know, X amount
Speaker 3: of hours a week, and like they kind of are like, no,
Speaker 3: like you have to do it. Oh, so like they
Speaker 3: kind of they put it on you early to be
Speaker 3: like you no, like you better get your school work
Speaker 3: taken care of.
Speaker 1: Did that help when you got through the NFL and
Speaker 1: now you're presented with this huge playbook that's much larger
Speaker 1: than what you have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they don't have any school Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah that helps more time. No, la test. If you
Speaker 4: didn't go.
Speaker 5: To Stanford, I think I talked to you about this
Speaker 5: before you were up in Utah. Uh, you probably would.
Speaker 5: I remember you saying you would not have gone to
Speaker 5: school in Utah. But where else would you have gone?
Speaker 3: Maybe where else? I liked Washington at the time. They
Speaker 3: signed a bunch of guys in my class, And same
Speaker 3: thing with Notre Dame, Like I like Notre Dame, but
Speaker 3: Notre Dame signed you know, three or four guys, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I really want to go to Stanford.
Speaker 3: Like I knew I wanted to go, and like I
Speaker 3: wanted to be there, especially after visiting. Like one time,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, what was about the visit?
Speaker 3: Have you been on Sanford? Not bro go to Stanford's
Speaker 3: campus and just like walk around in the spring, walk
Speaker 3: around in the fall and tell me that it's not
Speaker 3: like the best campus.
Speaker 1: And now were you in the country were you thinking
Speaker 1: as a youngster, like you know what, I also want
Speaker 1: to go somewhere with high academic standards or.
Speaker 3: No. That was That was it because at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, like I wanted to play good football,
Speaker 3: but like I want to have a fallback plan, you know,
Speaker 3: and like nobody knows how the football stuff is going
Speaker 3: to work out, Like anything can happen. You could, you know,
Speaker 3: get a big injury, you know whatever, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to be sure that no matter what, like I could
Speaker 3: have something that I can really you know, kind of
Speaker 3: rely on, you know, to to make it and provide for,
Speaker 3: you know, my family in the future. And so Stanford
Speaker 3: was like as a no brainer for me.
Speaker 2: Like what was.
Speaker 3: Major STS, which is like science, Technology, and Society. I guess,
Speaker 3: so I got a Bachelor of Science and like STS,
Speaker 3: which is like it kind of turned into like an
Speaker 3: athlete degree a little bit, but only just because like
Speaker 3: you could really pick and choose like a bunch of
Speaker 3: courses and so, like I really wanted to do game design,
Speaker 3: but we didn't have a game design major, and like
Speaker 3: the only thing close was like computer science, and so
Speaker 3: computer science was great, but like, dude, I did not
Speaker 3: want to.
Speaker 4: Take It's a lot of extra stuff.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to take math. I'm like, dude, Like
Speaker 3: I in high school, like I got in a pre
Speaker 3: CALC and like CALCU and I'm like, dude, this imaginary
Speaker 3: stuff Like no, and like I heard, you know, all
Speaker 3: the other guys going through all the math math classes,
Speaker 3: Like you know, teachers have thick accents. There's this piece
Speaker 3: set and this piece set, and you got like I'm
Speaker 3: like dude, no way, And so like I chose SCSUSE
Speaker 3: and I took all the same computer science classes and
Speaker 3: like I basically switched out all the math stuff for
Speaker 3: like design and like so it's product design, and there
Speaker 3: was a few and stuff, right, yes, yeah, but like
Speaker 3: there was a few, I want to say, like three
Speaker 3: or four like gaming specific like courses that like I
Speaker 3: went to my like program major and was like, hey,
Speaker 3: can I put these in the Can I put these
Speaker 3: in the program?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: And I had to basically petition to like make them
Speaker 3: a part of my major because I'm like, here's what
Speaker 3: I want to do, Like, I want to do game design.
Speaker 3: Can you help me build a track that will like
Speaker 3: help me do that? And she was all for it.
Speaker 1: This is one thing one of the many things I
Speaker 1: love about the show. You learn about the guys you
Speaker 1: know off the football field. So that's very interesting to me,
Speaker 1: Like that you knew you wanted to do games. When
Speaker 1: did you find out you were passionate about Obviously you're
Speaker 1: a gamer coming up, I'm assuming, And was there like
Speaker 1: a type of game you wanted to do that design?
Speaker 2: Sports?
Speaker 3: I just that's that's always been my past time. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, if I'm going to school and getting
Speaker 3: a degree, like it's going to be in something that
Speaker 3: like I find fun because like that's what everybody says, like,
Speaker 3: do find something you love to do and life you know,
Speaker 3: like so for me it's been football and like the
Speaker 3: gaming slash like coding side.
Speaker 2: Do you use it now?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he's a huge gamer.
Speaker 2: Now, so did you design it? Did you use what
Speaker 2: you learned?
Speaker 3: So like I didn't. I didn't code any of my
Speaker 3: own games, play any of my own games, but like
Speaker 3: I'm a big time gamer, like I have a whole
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, the videos kind of we do my
Speaker 3: own horn but like I put a lot of time
Speaker 3: in like set.
Speaker 4: I stumbled upon this in my interview with Dalton. But
Speaker 4: then yeah, and then but then.
Speaker 5: Somebody had some footage of you and maybe that was
Speaker 5: your own footage of your actual gaming setup, which I
Speaker 5: saw after the fact. He's got this, he's got like
Speaker 5: all these same microphones that we have and the camera
Speaker 5: like he knows don't knows everything about our audio visual
Speaker 5: setup here because he has his own gaming setup that
Speaker 5: is very good at home. Which, by the way, like
Speaker 5: I think my kids are kind of at that age
Speaker 5: where they're getting into college and studying gaming design is
Speaker 5: a big major now Like now, don't don't now if
Speaker 5: you went to college more.
Speaker 3: It's way more mainstream.
Speaker 5: Now and there's a lot more courses for kids that
Speaker 5: want to do that, like in those tracks like he's
Speaker 5: showing India.
Speaker 4: It is a wo moment.
Speaker 5: Can I just say though, like I have a lot
Speaker 5: of respect for you enjoying coding because I was an
Speaker 5: engineering major and I liked the math and I couldn't
Speaker 5: stand the coding.
Speaker 4: I thought the code was So.
Speaker 3: The coding is awesome hard.
Speaker 5: It's a puzzle, it is, and it's like an exercise
Speaker 5: in patience because you could write hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 5: line of code and if something's wrong.
Speaker 3: With your punctuations off, yeah, you put in like a wrong.
Speaker 3: You start, you start messing around with like Python, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did plus plus extra. Yeah it was.
Speaker 5: An extra space will like screen and you will know
Speaker 5: and you will know, you'll just know it's not running.
Speaker 5: And then you got to go back and troubleshoot and
Speaker 5: figure out what the thing is out of these hundreds
Speaker 5: of line Like I didn't have the patience for it,
Speaker 5: and I never got through.
Speaker 3: First of all, it's deciding how you want to tackle
Speaker 3: whatever problem, because there's a hundred ways of skin of
Speaker 3: cat like yes, and then it's like okay, like how
Speaker 3: do I make my solution work? Like, let me try
Speaker 3: to mess around, and then it's trial and error, and
Speaker 3: then it's like, all right, it was just working and
Speaker 3: I in putting two more lines of code and now
Speaker 3: it's broken, Like okay.
Speaker 5: You have to be detective almost like what did I
Speaker 5: do differently? And then the error changes so you're like, okay,
Speaker 5: so maybe yeah, I didn't have the patience you enjoy
Speaker 5: all that you enjoyed, the troubleshooting and the writing code.
Speaker 3: You need to know maybe that much coding because like
Speaker 3: basically they've done all the coding like for you under
Speaker 3: the hood, and they've given you building blocks to basically
Speaker 3: put together and make st like here's.
Speaker 5: The algorithm, like if you put this paragraph of code in,
Speaker 5: it will do this.
Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying, Like they're just.
Speaker 3: Getting graphical interface that they have to like instead of
Speaker 3: So in order to make a car, you don't need
Speaker 3: to know how to make an engine. They give you
Speaker 3: the engine. They say, all right, now put this in
Speaker 3: your car, and you just pick up the engine and
Speaker 3: put it in the car. And now if you want
Speaker 3: to tweak the engine a little bit, yeah, you'll maybe
Speaker 3: need to know how an engine works or transmission works
Speaker 3: to maybe make the transmission act like you want it,
Speaker 3: but like they just are giving you the parts and
Speaker 3: you know, are allowing you to basically like drop it
Speaker 3: in your car. Now you can change what kind of
Speaker 3: engine it is and what the engine looks like, and
Speaker 3: maybe if it's a six cylinder engine or a twelve
Speaker 3: V twelve Like you can make all those changes. Like
Speaker 3: it's not hard, but in order to like actually go
Speaker 3: in and like fine tune that engine, that's when you'll need,
Speaker 3: Like you're just a little bit of coding experience.
Speaker 1: So with your background when you play games, is it
Speaker 1: a little different than like a dummy like me, like, oh,
Speaker 1: that looks cool.
Speaker 2: The graphics are cool.
Speaker 3: Like d like, yo, how the hell did they or
Speaker 3: like how the hell did they make this? Like animation
Speaker 3: or like dude, I think of like all the stuff
Speaker 3: that would have to go into making that game. Like
Speaker 3: I'm on a Cyberpunk kick right now, Like I didn't
Speaker 3: play Cyberpunk when it first came out because of all
Speaker 3: the bugs and stuff. But it's this basically open world
Speaker 3: like you know, RPG slash first person shooter, and it
Speaker 3: drops you in this like futuristic utopia of a city
Speaker 3: and everybody's outfitted with like cyberware and like bionic eyes
Speaker 3: and you know bionic arms, and you know legs that
Speaker 3: make you double, like all this cool stuff. But like
Speaker 3: just the detail in the environment and stuff is like
Speaker 3: mind blowing to me. Let alone, like the all the
Speaker 3: cool like graphicals.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a whole story that they have to create,
Speaker 5: like an entire setting and a story with characters and
Speaker 5: a storyboard.
Speaker 3: And I enjoy I enjoy going into like the corner,
Speaker 3: like the corners of the world and like seeing how
Speaker 3: much detail like a developer puts into like a corner
Speaker 3: that like, yeah, maybe ten percent of the player base
Speaker 3: is going to go into, but like seeing how much
Speaker 3: care and time that like goes into just like that
Speaker 3: tiny little area that's always so.
Speaker 2: You're just walking around looking appreciated video.
Speaker 3: Dude, it's cool. It's like super cool to see, you know.
Speaker 3: Just it's because these things are creations, Like there are
Speaker 3: artistic creations for a lot of people, and like seeing
Speaker 3: the time that people can spend and like how good
Speaker 3: of a job they can do.
Speaker 4: That's a great way to look at it.
Speaker 2: For two questions.
Speaker 1: One my first one, when fans hear this are they
Speaker 1: clamoring to get you to play with them or play
Speaker 1: in there saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people ask like people, yeah, people people asking like
Speaker 3: I do that in the off seasons, Like I'll play
Speaker 3: games and like, you know, I'll stream on Twitch or
Speaker 3: you know wherever, and you know, all run games with
Speaker 3: like viewers and like they'll you know, I've got a
Speaker 3: list and people can like literally just put themselves in
Speaker 3: the list and like all queue up games and like
Speaker 3: I'll just go down the list. It's fun and like
Speaker 3: you meet a lot of like really cool people. So
Speaker 3: I've been having a lot of fun with that over
Speaker 3: the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: And my second question, when you're done with football decade
Speaker 1: past from now, do.
Speaker 3: You see.
Speaker 2: Are you going to immerse yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's That's something that I've wanted to like try.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be doing that anyway, might as well. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I could. I could see myself going down a certain
Speaker 3: path like that. Whether whether I'm you know, streaming or
Speaker 3: like I want to do something in that space, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I think like shadowing a you know, in
Speaker 3: a company would be great. Like so Gearbox has a
Speaker 3: like headquarters in Frisco, which I'm living near Frisco up
Speaker 3: in Dallas.
Speaker 4: And like, have you ever gone there? Is this your
Speaker 4: official asks to do something with.
Speaker 3: Gearbox, Like they've you know, they've basically been like hey,
Speaker 3: like let us know, and like, you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: just cool that there's like studios because I grew up
Speaker 3: a big Borderlands fan and like, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you guys know what Borderlands is, but it's a game
Speaker 3: made by Gearbox. It's like in a super cartoony slash
Speaker 3: like comic book art style, and dude, Borderlands too is
Speaker 3: like the funniest, like most well written game that like
Speaker 3: I've ever played in, like one of my favorite games
Speaker 3: of all time, and like I still go back and
Speaker 3: like play that. And so to have that that studio
Speaker 3: that made that, their headquarters is like right basically right
Speaker 3: down the street from me. Like that's freaking that's sweet.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And so I don't know, I'd love to
Speaker 3: I would love to learn more about the intricacies that
Speaker 3: kind of like all go in. And I've got friends
Speaker 3: that work in that industry. Like one of my best
Speaker 3: friends works you know, he's worked at a bunch of
Speaker 3: different places, like he helped make Halo infinite and a
Speaker 3: bunch of different you know, companies, and so I know
Speaker 3: a lot more than like I used to. But still
Speaker 3: I want to take a peek behind the curtain and
Speaker 3: just kind of see, you know, a day to day
Speaker 3: in that in that space.
Speaker 4: Maybe a summer internship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I do an internship.
Speaker 4: I know we've had players do internships like in the
Speaker 4: off season.
Speaker 3: It's hard to do it, like it's hard for you
Speaker 3: for my mind to do it, like while I'm still playing.
Speaker 3: That's when I'm done. Like that, I could absolutely see
Speaker 3: an avenue into that.
Speaker 1: But because I'm assuming I don't know anything about the
Speaker 1: tech world, gaming world, that the advancements are so quick,
Speaker 1: don't you have to kind of stay to speed with Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and maybe.
Speaker 3: Even I'm so behind a ball in terms of like
Speaker 3: what the code languages. So I need to need to
Speaker 3: get back on my study grind when I'm done.
Speaker 1: All right, quick time out. One more segment to go.
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz sitting here. Very interesting interview.
Speaker 3: And I knew interesting sometimes needs bad. Why Yeah, you've
Speaker 3: heard that it's like.
Speaker 4: Going off com.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, definitely it doesn't mean bad here because
Speaker 1: the whole gaming and the passion because most guys that
Speaker 1: you know I talked to is it's the stereotypical Sam
Speaker 1: Old Sam, you know what, I'm done with football, want
Speaker 1: to be a trainer, a physical trainer. But to know
Speaker 1: that you really have this gaming background and you've even
Speaker 1: studied it, that's that's actually pretty cool and it's very
Speaker 1: interesting in a positive way. One more segment to go.
Speaker 1: We'll get back on the field. Texans huddle. Right here,
Speaker 1: Texans Huddle. One more segment to go with our main man,
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. I think the conversation off air might be
Speaker 1: more interesting for some of the people because I just
Speaker 1: learning from me and hearing about his gaming experiences and
Speaker 1: the level that he plays at is pretty is very
Speaker 1: interesting in a good way.
Speaker 5: Very And I love that you and your wife both
Speaker 5: game together and she has her own setup, because I
Speaker 5: think that's I think that's fantastic you tie together.
Speaker 3: She's to the point where like she might be better
Speaker 3: at Fortnite than men. Oh boy, Like you know, I'll
Speaker 3: jump in with her and like play some games and
Speaker 3: I'm like, how are you level one hundred already? Like
Speaker 3: a battle pass has been out for like three weeks.
Speaker 5: She's not playing professional football during the season, so she
Speaker 5: set a little bit more time.
Speaker 1: All right, speaking of professional football, I guess we have
Speaker 1: to get back to the boring sports because this has
Speaker 1: been really fascinating to just kind of talk about going
Speaker 1: into the season. I'm assuming it's game by game, but
Speaker 1: your expectations and what are you surprised at? What with
Speaker 1: with what you've been able to accomplish so far? Great question.
Speaker 3: I think honestly, there's just so much uncertainty when you're
Speaker 3: moving teams and like you haven't been in a building
Speaker 3: and it's an entirely new staff and a bunch of
Speaker 3: new you know, players and a new locker rooms, just
Speaker 3: a whole lot of new and you're not really sure
Speaker 3: what to kind of expect. There's talk in the draft
Speaker 3: of like, hey, we might get this guy, we might
Speaker 3: do this, Like it was a whole lot of like
Speaker 3: let's see how this goes. And I think, you know,
Speaker 3: over the course of the last few months, like having
Speaker 3: guys step up in big roles, you know, whether it's
Speaker 3: you know, quarterback or offensive line or linebacker, d line,
Speaker 3: whatever it is, Like, you know that confidence has just
Speaker 3: continued to build ever since we started in OTAs and
Speaker 3: so I think, you know, going forward, that's what excites
Speaker 3: me most is like we still have like so many
Speaker 3: young guys and we have so many guys that are
Speaker 3: playing such good football that could be playing even like
Speaker 3: so much better football. Like it's it's exciting, like it's
Speaker 3: exciting times and so like I'm honestly I wouldn't say surprise,
Speaker 3: but like I mean maybe that's about maybe it is.
Speaker 3: The best word is like that we've had so many
Speaker 3: young guys play so well so far. Like usually it
Speaker 3: takes like I said, like the transition from the tight
Speaker 3: end of the league, like it takes a couple of
Speaker 3: years sometimes in other positions, like yeah, it takes takes
Speaker 3: a little bit, but you know, I think we've had
Speaker 3: guys step up in big ways like now, like immediately
Speaker 3: making impacts.
Speaker 5: I think that's what's surprising to me too. It's like
Speaker 5: I'll hear Cjay talk after the game, and he usually
Speaker 5: talks about the plays that were left on the field
Speaker 5: and I and I get that sense that a lot
Speaker 5: of you guys feel that way too.
Speaker 3: Football Like that's like well, if you've just done this,
Speaker 3: if you like, if you truly like the game, like
Speaker 3: that's that's the natural that's the natural reaction, because that's
Speaker 3: the first thing that I think of too. You do, Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, it's like good, I want that playback, or like, ah, God,
Speaker 3: I wish I did this and this, and dude, I
Speaker 3: get I don't care if it's one play or ten
Speaker 3: plays like that. One play is always going to be
Speaker 3: like dude, god, I should have caught that, or like, god,
Speaker 3: I wish I would have taken my block that way
Speaker 3: instead of the other way. Like those things are when
Speaker 3: you're competing, and especially at the highest level, it's like
Speaker 3: those are the those are the things that make you know,
Speaker 3: good players great. Is like finding a way to make
Speaker 3: those plays great plays.
Speaker 1: The next week you played in Dallas, played with a
Speaker 1: you know, a good quarterback there. Can you talk about
Speaker 1: some of the differences and similarities with Dak Prescott and CJ.
Speaker 2: Streu.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gotten this question a couple of times. But
Speaker 3: like I do, I hate comparing Like I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't play the comparison game. Like I think they're both
Speaker 3: great leaders in their own way, but like, dude, that
Speaker 3: their own players. Man, Like you know, I get they
Speaker 3: play the same position and the media loves comparing stats
Speaker 3: and this and that dog like they're two great players
Speaker 3: that are both playing really good football, and like I
Speaker 3: love them both to death, Like they're they're their own,
Speaker 3: they're their own guys. Like let bygones be by gones.
Speaker 1: Like and just so you know, that wasn't one of
Speaker 1: those I know I got you moments because obviously I
Speaker 1: know I didn't know if like they communicated, like one's quieter,
Speaker 1: one's louder. But uh, but but I love your answer
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, it just let them be themselves.
Speaker 3: I mean CJ's young, like he's going to grow into
Speaker 3: his own shoes, like in this league, he's going to
Speaker 3: be his own guy, and Dak's going to continue to
Speaker 3: evolve too, Like they're their own they're their own players.
Speaker 1: What type of advice did you did you play with
Speaker 1: Jason Whitten? Yeah, so that's a guy that played a
Speaker 1: long time in this league and when you were young
Speaker 1: in the league, you know obviously had a chance to
Speaker 1: play with him. What type of advice did he give you?
Speaker 1: And do you see yourself as a season vent talking
Speaker 1: to some of these young pass catchers, whether it's receiver
Speaker 1: or tight end.
Speaker 3: Dude, it's so cliche but like my favorite thing and
Speaker 3: like it continues to kind of like liver and free
Speaker 3: Is would always had a He would always say like,
Speaker 3: hey man, can't cheat the muse, Like, ain't no shortcuts,
Speaker 3: Like whatever you're doing, like, trust me, there's no there's
Speaker 3: no easy way, like you're either going to put the
Speaker 3: work in or you're not. And if you want to
Speaker 3: be great, there's no there's there's no other path than
Speaker 3: working your ass off, So you can't cheat. The muse
Speaker 3: is like, my that's my favorite.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you can't. If it was easy, everybody
Speaker 5: would do it, right. I mean that's what they say
Speaker 5: the work ethic. I know you and I have talked
Speaker 5: don't and I have talked about how he's learned everything
Speaker 5: about being a pro from Jason Witten.
Speaker 4: What about for.
Speaker 5: You guys in the locker room come to you for advice,
Speaker 5: what's your biggest piece of advice? Is that your biggest
Speaker 5: piece of advice to them?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like I don't want to be that
Speaker 3: unless will. Yeah, you come up to me and are
Speaker 3: like like hey man, like you know, I try to
Speaker 3: pull people along by showing people like what you should do,
Speaker 3: Like it's hard at this level, Like everybody's grown. Everybody's
Speaker 3: going to do what they want and unless you're seeking
Speaker 3: that stuff out, like I'm not, like I don't know,
Speaker 3: I feel weird about going up to a guy and
Speaker 3: being like, hey, like you should do this, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, Yeah, the guys that want to
Speaker 3: do that will find a way to do that or
Speaker 3: ask for help to be able to do that. And
Speaker 3: so I think, you know, I'm absolutely like if anybody's
Speaker 3: got any questions or like you know, wants that from me,
Speaker 3: I can absolutely be that guy for people. But at
Speaker 3: the same time, like I want to let guys grow
Speaker 3: themselves and like take their own steps and like learn
Speaker 3: their own ways and find their own ways to do things.
Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, like and this
Speaker 3: is super applicable in the tight end room, Like I've
Speaker 3: got I've gotten the my ways of doing stuff, and
Speaker 3: like that might not be the best way for somebody
Speaker 3: else to do stuff. Like that's the way that i
Speaker 3: found success doing things, and like that's the way that
Speaker 3: I'm gonna continue to evolve my game. But like that
Speaker 3: might be different than somebody else who's stronger or faster,
Speaker 3: or you know, plays at one speed. One way all
Speaker 3: the time and doesn't want to like it's it's hard,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to. I don't want to
Speaker 3: bog another guy down with some stuff that I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about pre snap or before a play, just because that
Speaker 3: might slow them down. And now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: they're they're thinking too much and doing stuff.
Speaker 4: That's you know, out of there, not who they are.
Speaker 3: The characteristics of what makes them great, and so I think,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm absolutely here, but I don't want to.
Speaker 3: I don't want to, like, you know, come at somebody
Speaker 3: and be like, hey, dude, like do this whipper snapper.
Speaker 1: If you want one hundred yards like I had, you
Speaker 1: had to do it like this. Yeah, that's gonna do
Speaker 1: it for us today. You know what, I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: this out there in the off season uninvited. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna show up to your house at Dallas and then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna address I'm gonna tell my sons that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play with them and that not Minecraft.
Speaker 2: What's the game you and your wife played?
Speaker 1: Because they play for Fortnite, But I'm gonna have you
Speaker 1: actually play so yeah for me, so you can kick
Speaker 1: their tail I'll put the control on your hand. I'll
Speaker 1: be in the corner, yeah, telling you what to do.
Speaker 1: But man, awesome, awesome stuff. We appreciate the time and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, good luck for the rest of the season
Speaker 1: and continue to success. Thank you. That's gonna do it
Speaker 1: for us today. Texting all Access coming up next, or
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