WEBVTT - TE Dalton Schultz talks C.J. Stroud, touchdowns, gaming design and more | Texans Huddle 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:04.160 Welcome in another episode of Texan's Huddle. I am indeed 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:07.760 she is DP and Dalton Schultz in the seat to 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.720 my right after a huge game. This guy knows a 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.720 thing or two about catching the ball, scoring touchdowns, and 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.239 we're happy he's doing it with the Houston Texas. 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:17.439 Welcome to Texans Huddle. 0:00:17.440 --> 0:00:19.439 How you doing, I'm good man, Thank you much you 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:20.880 having me. That's a heck of an intro. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:24.759 That's how we do here on Texans Hudle. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.200 I've actually had the pleasure of sitting with Dalton one 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.840 on one over in the corner and our little podcast 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:32.199 set up for the Deep Slants. So it's been a 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:33.720 lot of fun just sort of getting to know you 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:35.640 and cover you this year. But I feel like this 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.760 team where it's at now. I mean, I just known 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.040 my ten years of covering this team. That was a 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.159 fun one on Sunday. That was one of the best 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.520 home wins. I want to know what your thoughts are, 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.159 just even in game, it seemed like the way the 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.320 game started. You've talked about this a little bit. You 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.760 had the fumble to start off, then you come back 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:55.680 with a touchdown. I feel like that was almost so 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.920 long ago. By the time the game ended, I thought 0:00:58.000 --> 0:00:59.600 this was all in the same game, Like we went 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.400 through this whole roller coaster. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.360 Yeah, and as a player, like, that's exactly what you 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.600 try to stay out of, is like the ups and 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.160 downs and the roller coaster that you know, I'm sure 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.280 fans feel like as players, it's like you do your 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:17.320 best to kind of stay pretty much on one level, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:18.720 you know what I mean. I mean you've been there, 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.160 Like it's I mean, games are very momentum based too. 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:25.399 It's like you can feel, you know, swings, and you 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.399 got to do your best to keep a levelhead and 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:31.600 you know, don't ride the highs and lows too much. 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.280 And obviously I think we did that pretty well. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.360 I want to go a little bit further back. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.240 I grew up in San Antonio and that's Cowboy Country, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.320 so obviously very familiar with what you've done, with what 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.640 you've accomplished. You balled out in Dallas, and when I 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.480 heard that you were coming here, I had to do 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.040 a double take. I'm like, no, they would have let 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.480 him leave. Like, were you surprised that they allowed you 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:52.080 to get away? 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:53.200 Ah? 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.520 Yeah, yeah I was, so was I. 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.400 Like, what was the conversation and I'm not just you know, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.600 catering to you because you're sitting here. Like I said, 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.600 watched a lot of Dallas Cowboy football, and you know, 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.360 I just assumed you would have been locked up and 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:07.520 they like, what was the was your agent saying, hey, 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.399 there's a chance that you might Yeah. 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.040 I mean they were they wanted to get something done 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:14.800 since twenty twenty one, and then they put me on 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:16.760 the tag and then it was like still that same 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:22.320 mindset and then it just never came to fruition. And 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.160 I mean that's that's just the business of this league sometimes, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.960 like you know, people say one thing and do another, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.639 and like you just kind of kind of roll with 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.000 the punches. But yeah, I mean, obviously I have a 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.440 great opportunity here. I love coming in in this offense 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.639 and I think we have a great quarterback which kind 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.840 of makes the offense go. But yeah, I mean, you know, 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.560 business is business, and you know, luckily I you know, 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:49.000 Houston came in and offered me a contract and you know, 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:50.799 take it and we roll from there. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.880 When do you get past like the initial disappointment, you know, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:57.520 And I don't want to dwell on it, because like 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.200 you said, there are times where even in my where 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.239 I'm like, oh man, I'm set for life. Then they're 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.440 gonna call when you get past it and say, okay, 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:06.120 I'm moving on them. 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:06.679 Yeah, dude. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.840 It's kind of like, dude, it was a hard week 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.040 like free agency. You know, you think it's gonna be 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.720 like a big thing and then you know it's it's 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:16.519 almost kind of like a repeat a draft day where 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.040 it's like you know, you're waiting on a waiting on 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.520 a phone call, waiting on something something, and days go 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:26.400 by and it's like nothing, and then you know, finally 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.280 you get something and it's like, oh my god, if 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:33.280 that takes like three weeks or what like. But yeah, man, 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.760 it's it's hard. And again with anything like I kind 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.240 of take that you know on the field mindset to life. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.440 It's like, you know, you can ride the peaks and 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.240 valleys or you can kind of you know, make the 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.240 most of what you got and where you're at, and 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.520 you know, be where your feet are and in those moments, 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.840 I think, you know, obviously having two kids and a 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.160 wife like to kind of help you through the those 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:57.600 kinds of times, like keep your levelhead a bit. That 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.280 was a big time for me at that moment, because dude, 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.640 it's it's hard, you know. I mean, you've been there, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.400 so like, you know, you know how it feels. 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:06.640 Yeah. 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.160 I think a lot of Texans fans were very excited 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.400 that it wasn't just you, but you and your former 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:12.240 teammate Noel Brown. 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.000 You guys both signed here this offseason. How much should 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:15.360 that help? 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.960 Just having a guy that knew you and Dallas, you 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.480 guys know each other. You're not the only new player 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.479 coming in, but the two of you very familiar with 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.400 each other, get to start here together. 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.440 Yeah, I think it's uh, when I first got here 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.600 is kind of settling a little bit, you know, like 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.080 it's nice to come in with another guy to be 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.880 like oh wow, like that this is different or like hey, 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:38.360 this is this is way better, you know what I mean. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.480 Like you have something to compare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.640 You have somebody to kind of that understands your same 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.560 perspective on you know, the differences in that transitionary period 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.000 from one organization to the other. And I think that 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.240 you know that helped me transition, like to a new 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.000 orc is having a you know, guy that I I've 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:01.480 already played with, familiar face and so yeah, that was. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.279 That was nice, to say the least. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.800 I remember in twenty nineteen when Laramy Tunsel was traded 0:05:07.839 --> 0:05:09.719 here as a part of that trade was also Kenny 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:12.279 still is a wide receiver, and I remember talking to 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.279 I want to say, I was talking to Kenny and 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.520 he said, it's just so nice to have like they 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.640 were really good friends in Miami, but to get traded, 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.000 as I would imagine a similar feeling, like you just 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.280 the uncertainty of it all. You're in one place and 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:26.800 all of a sudden you're not. But the two of 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.560 them really comparing notes on how things were different here 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.880 and the team was really good, so they were excited 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.640 to be a part of a lot of winning. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:34.760 That was an adjustment for them. 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.280 They were coming from an organization where they were they 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.920 were not in the same situation. But now the two 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:42.400 of you are clicking, You're rolling. Both of you guys 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.159 had big games on Sunday. Have you two sort of 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.840 talked about I know, I feel like your relationship with him. 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:50.479 I'd never heard you talk about him until Monday. You 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.159 had sort of seen his journey as well, Like what 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.760 have you thought about just how the offense has progressed 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:57.240 so far? 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.800 Through these first few games. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:03.039 I mean in terms of like overall offense, I mean 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.520 it's been so much more like smooth, even though at 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.880 times like sometimes it doesn't feel like that for guys. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.640 But like looking from week one to like week eight 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.800 or nine, whatever we had to buy, so I don't 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:19.159 I don't even know what we get. It's probably half yeah, 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.599 so whatever, you know, going from week one to now, 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.800 it's just everything is so smooth. CJ's done a great 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.640 job of like because dude, as a rookie quarterback, like 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.599 you have a lot on your plate. I mean there's 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.640 a reason he's got a wristband out there, Like these 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:35.200 calls are super wordy in this you know scheme, and 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.640 so I think that you know, hearing the play call, 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.120 getting it in and out like that's been you know, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.039 huge in just allowing us to kind of, you know, 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:48.400 operate more efficiently getting in and out. And I think 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.240 at the end of the day, like you have a 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.760 quarterback who's like dealing like that kid is right now, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.160 it's you know, everybody else's job gets a lot easier 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.280 because now it's just like hey, you know, tank run 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.280 of the you know, run on the back corner of 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.160 the end zone, close your eyes and put your hands out. 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:05.360 You know, CG is gonna put a ball right there. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.720 So like, I think it's you know, there's a lot 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:13.360 of confidence building just you know, between the guys and 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.080 in the scheme. And I think especially like between the 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.280 coaching staff and the players, like you know, they're starting 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.920 to kind of get a lot of confidence in guys 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.320 being able to make plays. And it's like, you know, 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.080 we'll call shots for three four five different guys, you 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.040 know what I mean, And it's like everybody's kind of got, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.640 you know, a chance to make a big impact, impact 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:37.000 play in a game. And you know that comes from 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:40.800 trusting in each other, but also the coaching staff trusting 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:45.640 in the players and vice versa. So I think we're 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.880 taking steps in the in the right direction for sure. 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:49.880 We just got to keep the thing, keep the thing going. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.200 Can we just talk about CJ for a second, because 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.240 I feel like you, of all people, like being just 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.640 a veteran in your position, like, what have you thought 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:01.280 about just what he's done on so far and especially 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.800 this game against Tampa Bay? Just yeah, I mean adjustments 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:08.480 that a new starting center. There's no kicker You've got 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.760 Damian pierce out all that aside. You know, what have 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.080 you thought about just his composure? 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.040 Yeah, I think CJ's dude, he's a gamer. Like you know, 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.720 you see, you know, everybody you know has a couple 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.560 reps in practice where it's like holy, holy crap, you know, 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.320 and you see glimpses and like everybody's you know, seeing 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.200 good plays and like great plays throughout training camp and OTAs, 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.600 and then it's like you turn the game film on 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.360 and it's like throw after throw after throw after big 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:40.880 play aft Like dude, we ran we ran a play 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:43.880 where like you know, the running back kicks it out 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.960 the backside and like CJ is trying to throw a 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:47.920 block and like, you know, we pitch it up. 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:54.120 That's just like it's just crazy like and so I think, 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.000 you know, when guys are able to kind of you know, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.920 trust in you know, the scheme and the players, and 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:05.240 especially in CJ, I mean shoot, plays like that just 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:09.880 kind of seemed natural almost, And I mean we haven't 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.120 talked about like that play. 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:12.680 I haven't heard Bobby's. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:14.360 I've seen it on Twitter. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.960 Well, I just saw people saying like it looks like 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.440 Bobby slows having fun if he's trying stuff like that 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:24.199 Singletary pitches it back out to CJJ runs rolls out 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:27.040 to his left right. Is that the one you're talking about? Yeah, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:28.840 I feel like there's so many other storylines. 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:32.439 I was like, was that my design? 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.559 Because I was just it's just how. 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.920 I mean, what about that last drive? I mean, it 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:39.920 seemed like there was a lot of drawing up on that. 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.000 I heard CG talk about it a little bit like 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.080 on the sideline throwing up the play final Was it 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.200 the touchdown? That was the play that was drawn up 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.000 on the sideline or was it No? 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:52.600 Because like we've had we've had a we've had that 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.080 play and we've wrapped it, you know a few times 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:59.839 over the year, but we didn't have it like installed 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.640 for that week. Got it like you know what I mean. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.240 It was kind of like a hey, like we've we've 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.880 done this, like we might need it, like just we 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.680 you know, we talk about it, and it's like, again, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.040 coaches have trust in players that you know, even though 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.720 we haven't gotten a rep at it Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.560 we've done it, can y'all go execute it? And so 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:24.640 again it's those stat ability to you know, make things 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:26.760 happen when you need a play like that, and I 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.480 think you got a quarterback that can make it happen, 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:36.560 like you know Anything's. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:38.200 What was the biggest hurdle for you? Was it determinology? 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:38.560 Uh? 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.040 You know what's the volume? 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:40.400 Dude? 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:41.720 The volume volume? 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:45.360 Like I've never had like when I first got here. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:49.079 The formation she like they give you like a little index, 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.040 they give you a little index cards and it's this 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.440 and then another one. Wow, and so it's. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:59.280 Like three He's saying, like. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.640 Like a stack of just like formation monology. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.280 How much is it? What's like what's normal for people 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:03.800 that don't know? 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.320 Like I mean, see, that's the thing is I've only 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.680 been in a like one other system in the NFL, 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:14.240 so like I don't have a bunch of different systems 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.199 to compare it to. But like it's a lot more 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.760 coming from like what I came from. I mean, shoot, 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:20.839 we maybe had half. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:25.079 Okay, maybe this explains why in camp I remember, I 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.640 want to say it was Dan Pier's like the Bible. 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:31.080 He said, Oh, it's just we've done the Testament. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.320 It's all great, and it's all really good stuff, and 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.400 like it's necessary, like you need to be able to 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.280 put people in different spots and do different things, or 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.480 else you're gonna have to be changing personnels and coming 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.680 up with specific personnel groupings. Like it's much easier to 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.280 just call it it, call it a different formation, like 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.040 you know what I mean. So I think at the 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:53.839 end of the day, it's just getting over the pure 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.920 sheer volume of like the memorization stuff that you have 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.720 to do when you first get into a system like this, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.280 And so I think once you get over that hump, 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.840 then everything else becomes okay, Like now we can now 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:08.360 that I know what these words mean, I can start 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:11.480 focusing on, like, Okay, how do I how do I 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.400 beat you know, the guy in front of me, instead 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.280 of worrying about you know, what the hell I gotta do. 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.320 Sure everyone learns different. 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:21.200 Obviously you're learned the guy going to Stanford, you know 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:25.679 how to learn things and realize things. What was your approach? 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.520 Is it the cliff notes? Is it just kind of 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.120 reviewing it and closing your eyes and making yourself making 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.160 sure you can repeat. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.280 Reading calls and like going through it in your mind 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.960 and then like checking the picture. Like that's one way. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.240 But like at the end of the day, and I 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:44.960 told my position coach this when I first got here. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:49.160 I'm like, listen, like I'm gonna have to like screw. 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.520 I'm gonna have to screw things up like a couple 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.120 of times in practice like not you know, a different different, different, 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.360 different plays, but like you know, I'm I'm gonna need 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.400 that moment of like, oh crap, like it was this 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:03.080 and I did. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.720 That, like shoot, because then you'll remember it, right, yeah. 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.200 Because it's like it's those moments that like I will 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.320 never forget because like the embarrassment of like messing things 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:13.040 up like. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:14.760 That, you don't want to miss it, make a mistake again. 0:13:15.360 --> 0:13:19.520 And I think that's just how I learned. Obviously, you 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.359 do your best not to ever get in those situations, 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:25.000 but like when those happen, you never at least I 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:28.280 never forget. I think CJ. CJ is kind of the 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.040 same way too. He's he said that multiple times. It's 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.800 like he he talks about like defensive coverages and he's like, yeah, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.560 once I've seen that, like ya' gonna get me again. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.320 It's amazing because he's a rookie. You got Tank, who's 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:42.760 a rookie. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.080 I mean, everyone's new in the system, Like I guess 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.400 we don't even give enough appreciation of the fact that, 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.800 like you're a veteran saying it's so hard to learn 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:51.640 all these formations. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.000 Well, it's just it's a lot. It's just a lot. 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.000 Is it necessary? Is it necessary? 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:58.520 And I'm not trying to get you on here to say, oh, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.679 it's not necessary what we do, but you know, do 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.720 you need that many variations and formations to throw the 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:06.680 defense off. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.840 Or especially in this offense, Like everybody can play everywhere. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:13.800 I can do everything. So it's like Bobby wants to 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.439 put a certain person in some spot to do a 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.800 certain thing. Like Bobby's gonna find a way to do that. 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.880 So I think, yeah, that's completely necessary. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.120 You said everyone can do everything. We already saw a 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:28.040 running back, play kicker outside of tight end if you 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:34.760 weren't a tight end in the Yeah. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.960 I think becks are emergency long snapper. But I might 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.280 be able to be an emergency long snapper. Yeah, because 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.400 I snapped, Like I was the pseudo emergency guy for 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.360 the last few years. We never needed that, but like 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.080 I could go in there and. 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.040 Like snap, how did you figure out that you could 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:49.360 do that? 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.640 I played center growing up, and so like my college 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.600 coaches were like, hey, like you should try to snapping, 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.040 and like I just kind of did it as like 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.160 a you know, like sure, why not? And like you know, 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:05.440 I was solid at it. I'm not great like but 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.720 like I'm I feel like I'm serviceable. So we'll see. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.040 I don't know, easier said than done. Dude, on a 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.200 punt and you got a guy fifteen yards behind you, 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.280 like it's tough, man, Like it's a long way for 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:17.080 that ball to travel. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.240 So you played center center like I played center center 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.240 growing up from eight to eight thirteen. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:23.920 Okay, then you move to what position? 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.000 Outside backer and tight end? Okay, what do you enjoy more? 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.680 What did you enjoy more than that end? 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:29.480 Really? 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.920 Sure? I was actually d dude, outside backer was kind 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.360 of fun, like because there was like I remember in 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.880 a game in Little league, they try to they try 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.640 to throw like a little you know, screen pass, like 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.520 a one step to the receiver and like I tipped 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:48.520 it and picked it off. Like so like, outside backer 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:53.080 was fun. But dude' scorn touchdowns great, like especially coming 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:56.480 from like an old lineman background, like come. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.359 On, the balls in your hands. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.960 Right, you know what I mean? Like that was a 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.200 best part about being centered is like, oh my god, 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.320 Like I get to touch the ball eight nine years old. 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.040 You're like, I get to touch the ball every play. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.080 Well, you have to be in a system that utilizes 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.360 the tighten because Stanford didn't utilize the tight end like 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:13.880 they should in my opinion. 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.000 Then you go to DA then you get more passing wise, 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:17.640 that's what I mean. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.240 Yeah, not blocking, I mean, dude, freaking That's why I 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:22.359 went to Stanford. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:26.280 Though, Yet you like you were targeted more as a 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:26.960 pro than you. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:32.240 Were Christian McCaffery, Brice Love in the backfield. You know what, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:36.400 I remember we were running power like all day every day. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.640 So you didn't mind that. Hell no, you know that 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.080 that's the sign of a good teammate. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:44.840 Tight end blocking is hell of fun. Like blocking is 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:45.440 a great time. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.640 Most tight ends nowadays don't say that I just wanted 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.600 to catch the ball and get all the glory, like 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:51.840 actually appreciate hearing. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.720 No, that's that's amazing. That was like one of the 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.360 because that's the offense that I grew up in in 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.280 like high school. Is like we were kind of the same. 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:02.040 We were like power owner. I so like, you know, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.480 some rollouts seam benders, but like it was very much 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:10.440 like a downhill like power scheme. So like I was like, 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.040 I've done this all my life, Stanford does it. Like 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.760 I was actually the one that reached out to Stanford 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.439 because I'm like, dude, y'all are losing or losing freaking 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.680 Levine to a Lolo Kolby Fleeener, Ryan Hewitt zach Ertz 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.040 like all in one formation, Like y'all got like four 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.679 guys out on the field like playing running power and 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.560 that's splitting people out and throwing freaking deep balls. Like 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:35.880 so I don't know that was that was the best 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.679 of both the worlds to me, Like, yeah. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:40.920 We talked to a lot of people and for someone 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:42.320 to be like, man, I love blocking. 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.200 That's that a lot, dude. 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:44.720 It's fun. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:45.639 You know. 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.440 As a former defensive lineman, I like I like the trenches, 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.560 but I just don't hear that from tight ends anymore. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:52.920 Well, dude, it's like that's all you take an offensive 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:54.200 lineman and like you sit them down. 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:55.800 It's great. 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.520 It's a great feeling, right, It's like one of the 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.840 best feelings in ball, like catch and touchdown is great, 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:03.600 but like like like putting somebody on their back, bro, 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.520 like when you know when like when you know he's 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.400