1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in another episode of Texan's Huddle. I am indeed 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: she is DP and Dalton Schultz in the seat to 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: my right after a huge game. This guy knows a 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: thing or two about catching the ball, scoring touchdowns, and 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: we're happy he's doing it with the Houston Texas. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: Welcome to Texans Huddle. 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm good man, Thank you much you 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: having me. That's a heck of an intro. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 4: That's how we do here on Texans Hudle. 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 5: I've actually had the pleasure of sitting with Dalton one 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 5: on one over in the corner and our little podcast 12 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 5: set up for the Deep Slants. So it's been a 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 5: lot of fun just sort of getting to know you 14 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 5: and cover you this year. But I feel like this 15 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 5: team where it's at now. I mean, I just known 16 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 5: my ten years of covering this team. That was a 17 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 5: fun one on Sunday. That was one of the best 18 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 5: home wins. I want to know what your thoughts are, 19 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 5: just even in game, it seemed like the way the 20 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 5: game started. You've talked about this a little bit. You 21 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 5: had the fumble to start off, then you come back 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 5: with a touchdown. I feel like that was almost so 23 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 5: long ago. By the time the game ended, I thought 24 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 5: this was all in the same game, Like we went 25 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 5: through this whole roller coaster. 26 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and as a player, like, that's exactly what you 27 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: try to stay out of, is like the ups and 28 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: downs and the roller coaster that you know, I'm sure 29 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: fans feel like as players, it's like you do your 30 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: best to kind of stay pretty much on one level, 31 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I mean you've been there, 32 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 3: Like it's I mean, games are very momentum based too. 33 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 3: It's like you can feel, you know, swings, and you 34 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 3: got to do your best to keep a levelhead and 35 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: you know, don't ride the highs and lows too much. 36 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: And obviously I think we did that pretty well. 37 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: I want to go a little bit further back. 38 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: I grew up in San Antonio and that's Cowboy Country, 39 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: so obviously very familiar with what you've done, with what 40 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: you've accomplished. You balled out in Dallas, and when I 41 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: heard that you were coming here, I had to do 42 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: a double take. I'm like, no, they would have let 43 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: him leave. Like, were you surprised that they allowed you 44 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: to get away? 45 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 5: Ah? 46 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I was, so was I. 47 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: Like, what was the conversation and I'm not just you know, 48 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: catering to you because you're sitting here. Like I said, 49 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: watched a lot of Dallas Cowboy football, and you know, 50 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: I just assumed you would have been locked up and 51 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: they like, what was the was your agent saying, hey, 52 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: there's a chance that you might Yeah. 53 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: I mean they were they wanted to get something done 54 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: since twenty twenty one, and then they put me on 55 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: the tag and then it was like still that same 56 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 3: mindset and then it just never came to fruition. And 57 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: I mean that's that's just the business of this league sometimes, 58 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: like you know, people say one thing and do another, 59 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: and like you just kind of kind of roll with 60 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: the punches. But yeah, I mean, obviously I have a 61 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: great opportunity here. I love coming in in this offense 62 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 3: and I think we have a great quarterback which kind 63 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: of makes the offense go. But yeah, I mean, you know, 64 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: business is business, and you know, luckily I you know, 65 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: Houston came in and offered me a contract and you know, 66 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 3: take it and we roll from there. 67 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: When do you get past like the initial disappointment, you know, 68 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: And I don't want to dwell on it, because like 69 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: you said, there are times where even in my where 70 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, I'm set for life. Then they're 71 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: gonna call when you get past it and say, okay, 72 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm moving on them. 73 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. 74 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 3: It's kind of like, dude, it was a hard week 75 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: like free agency. You know, you think it's gonna be 76 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: like a big thing and then you know it's it's 77 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: almost kind of like a repeat a draft day where 78 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: it's like you know, you're waiting on a waiting on 79 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: a phone call, waiting on something something, and days go 80 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: by and it's like nothing, and then you know, finally 81 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: you get something and it's like, oh my god, if 82 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: that takes like three weeks or what like. But yeah, man, 83 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: it's it's hard. And again with anything like I kind 84 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: of take that you know on the field mindset to life. 85 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, you can ride the peaks and 86 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: valleys or you can kind of you know, make the 87 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: most of what you got and where you're at, and 88 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: you know, be where your feet are and in those moments, 89 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: I think, you know, obviously having two kids and a 90 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: wife like to kind of help you through the those 91 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: kinds of times, like keep your levelhead a bit. That 92 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: was a big time for me at that moment, because dude, 93 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: it's it's hard, you know. I mean, you've been there, 94 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: so like, you know, you know how it feels. 95 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 96 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: I think a lot of Texans fans were very excited 97 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: that it wasn't just you, but you and your former 98 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 5: teammate Noel Brown. 99 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 4: You guys both signed here this offseason. How much should 100 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: that help? 101 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: Just having a guy that knew you and Dallas, you 102 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 5: guys know each other. You're not the only new player 103 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 5: coming in, but the two of you very familiar with 104 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 5: each other, get to start here together. 105 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's uh, when I first got here 106 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: is kind of settling a little bit, you know, like 107 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 3: it's nice to come in with another guy to be 108 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: like oh wow, like that this is different or like hey, 109 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 3: this is this is way better, you know what I mean. 110 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 4: Like you have something to compare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 111 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: You have somebody to kind of that understands your same 112 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: perspective on you know, the differences in that transitionary period 113 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 3: from one organization to the other. And I think that 114 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: you know that helped me transition, like to a new 115 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: orc is having a you know, guy that I I've 116 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: already played with, familiar face and so yeah, that was. 117 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 3: That was nice, to say the least. 118 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 5: I remember in twenty nineteen when Laramy Tunsel was traded 119 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 5: here as a part of that trade was also Kenny 120 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 5: still is a wide receiver, and I remember talking to 121 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: I want to say, I was talking to Kenny and 122 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: he said, it's just so nice to have like they 123 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 5: were really good friends in Miami, but to get traded, 124 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: as I would imagine a similar feeling, like you just 125 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 5: the uncertainty of it all. You're in one place and 126 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 5: all of a sudden you're not. But the two of 127 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: them really comparing notes on how things were different here 128 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 5: and the team was really good, so they were excited 129 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 5: to be a part of a lot of winning. 130 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: That was an adjustment for them. 131 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 5: They were coming from an organization where they were they 132 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 5: were not in the same situation. But now the two 133 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 5: of you are clicking, You're rolling. Both of you guys 134 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 5: had big games on Sunday. Have you two sort of 135 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 5: talked about I know, I feel like your relationship with him. 136 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 5: I'd never heard you talk about him until Monday. You 137 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 5: had sort of seen his journey as well, Like what 138 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: have you thought about just how the offense has progressed 139 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 5: so far? 140 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 4: Through these first few games. 141 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: I mean in terms of like overall offense, I mean 142 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: it's been so much more like smooth, even though at 143 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: times like sometimes it doesn't feel like that for guys. 144 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: But like looking from week one to like week eight 145 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: or nine, whatever we had to buy, so I don't 146 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 3: I don't even know what we get. It's probably half yeah, 147 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 3: so whatever, you know, going from week one to now, 148 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: it's just everything is so smooth. CJ's done a great 149 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: job of like because dude, as a rookie quarterback, like 150 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 3: you have a lot on your plate. I mean there's 151 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: a reason he's got a wristband out there, Like these 152 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: calls are super wordy in this you know scheme, and 153 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: so I think that you know, hearing the play call, 154 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 3: getting it in and out like that's been you know, 155 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 3: huge in just allowing us to kind of, you know, 156 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: operate more efficiently getting in and out. And I think 157 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like you have a 158 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: quarterback who's like dealing like that kid is right now, 159 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: it's you know, everybody else's job gets a lot easier 160 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: because now it's just like hey, you know, tank run 161 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: of the you know, run on the back corner of 162 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 3: the end zone, close your eyes and put your hands out. 163 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: You know, CG is gonna put a ball right there. 164 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: So like, I think it's you know, there's a lot 165 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: of confidence building just you know, between the guys and 166 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: in the scheme. And I think especially like between the 167 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: coaching staff and the players, like you know, they're starting 168 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: to kind of get a lot of confidence in guys 169 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: being able to make plays. And it's like, you know, 170 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: we'll call shots for three four five different guys, you 171 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean, And it's like everybody's kind of got, 172 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: you know, a chance to make a big impact, impact 173 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: play in a game. And you know that comes from 174 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: trusting in each other, but also the coaching staff trusting 175 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: in the players and vice versa. So I think we're 176 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: taking steps in the in the right direction for sure. 177 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 3: We just got to keep the thing, keep the thing going. 178 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: Can we just talk about CJ for a second, because 179 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 5: I feel like you, of all people, like being just 180 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: a veteran in your position, like, what have you thought 181 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 5: about just what he's done on so far and especially 182 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 5: this game against Tampa Bay? Just yeah, I mean adjustments 183 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: that a new starting center. There's no kicker You've got 184 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 5: Damian pierce out all that aside. You know, what have 185 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 5: you thought about just his composure? 186 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think CJ's dude, he's a gamer. Like you know, 187 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 3: you see, you know, everybody you know has a couple 188 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: reps in practice where it's like holy, holy crap, you know, 189 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: and you see glimpses and like everybody's you know, seeing 190 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: good plays and like great plays throughout training camp and OTAs, 191 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: and then it's like you turn the game film on 192 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: and it's like throw after throw after throw after big 193 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: play aft Like dude, we ran we ran a play 194 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: where like you know, the running back kicks it out 195 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: the backside and like CJ is trying to throw a 196 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: block and like, you know, we pitch it up. 197 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 6: That's just like it's just crazy like and so I think, 198 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 6: you know, when guys are able to kind of you know, 199 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 6: trust in you know, the scheme and the players, and 200 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 6: especially in CJ, I mean shoot, plays like that just 201 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 6: kind of seemed natural almost, And I mean we haven't 202 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 6: talked about like that play. 203 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: I haven't heard Bobby's. 204 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: I've seen it on Twitter. 205 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 5: Well, I just saw people saying like it looks like 206 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: Bobby slows having fun if he's trying stuff like that 207 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 5: Singletary pitches it back out to CJJ runs rolls out 208 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 5: to his left right. Is that the one you're talking about? Yeah, 209 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 5: I feel like there's so many other storylines. 210 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: I was like, was that my design? 211 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 3: Because I was just it's just how. 212 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 5: I mean, what about that last drive? I mean, it 213 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 5: seemed like there was a lot of drawing up on that. 214 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: I heard CG talk about it a little bit like 215 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 5: on the sideline throwing up the play final Was it 216 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 5: the touchdown? That was the play that was drawn up 217 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 5: on the sideline or was it No? 218 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: Because like we've had we've had a we've had that 219 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 3: play and we've wrapped it, you know a few times 220 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: over the year, but we didn't have it like installed 221 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: for that week. Got it like you know what I mean. 222 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: It was kind of like a hey, like we've we've 223 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: done this, like we might need it, like just we 224 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: you know, we talk about it, and it's like, again, 225 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: coaches have trust in players that you know, even though 226 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 3: we haven't gotten a rep at it Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 227 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 3: we've done it, can y'all go execute it? And so 228 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: again it's those stat ability to you know, make things 229 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: happen when you need a play like that, and I 230 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: think you got a quarterback that can make it happen, 231 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: like you know Anything's. 232 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: What was the biggest hurdle for you? Was it determinology? 233 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 5: Uh? 234 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: You know what's the volume? 235 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: Dude? 236 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: The volume volume? 237 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: Like I've never had like when I first got here. 238 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 3: The formation she like they give you like a little index, 239 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: they give you a little index cards and it's this 240 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: and then another one. Wow, and so it's. 241 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: Like three He's saying, like. 242 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: Like a stack of just like formation monology. 243 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 4: How much is it? What's like what's normal for people 244 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 4: that don't know? 245 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: Like I mean, see, that's the thing is I've only 246 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: been in a like one other system in the NFL, 247 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: so like I don't have a bunch of different systems 248 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 3: to compare it to. But like it's a lot more 249 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: coming from like what I came from. I mean, shoot, 250 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 3: we maybe had half. 251 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 5: Okay, maybe this explains why in camp I remember, I 252 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 5: want to say it was Dan Pier's like the Bible. 253 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: He said, Oh, it's just we've done the Testament. 254 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 3: It's all great, and it's all really good stuff, and 255 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 3: like it's necessary, like you need to be able to 256 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: put people in different spots and do different things, or 257 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: else you're gonna have to be changing personnels and coming 258 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: up with specific personnel groupings. Like it's much easier to 259 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: just call it it, call it a different formation, like 260 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think at the 261 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 3: end of the day, it's just getting over the pure 262 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: sheer volume of like the memorization stuff that you have 263 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: to do when you first get into a system like this, 264 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: And so I think once you get over that hump, 265 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: then everything else becomes okay, Like now we can now 266 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: that I know what these words mean, I can start 267 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 3: focusing on, like, Okay, how do I how do I 268 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: beat you know, the guy in front of me, instead 269 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: of worrying about you know, what the hell I gotta do. 270 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: Sure everyone learns different. 271 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: Obviously you're learned the guy going to Stanford, you know 272 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: how to learn things and realize things. What was your approach? 273 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: Is it the cliff notes? Is it just kind of 274 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: reviewing it and closing your eyes and making yourself making 275 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: sure you can repeat. 276 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: Reading calls and like going through it in your mind 277 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: and then like checking the picture. Like that's one way. 278 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: But like at the end of the day, and I 279 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: told my position coach this when I first got here. 280 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, like I'm gonna have to like screw. 281 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to screw things up like a couple 282 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: of times in practice like not you know, a different different, different, 283 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: different plays, but like you know, I'm I'm gonna need 284 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: that moment of like, oh crap, like it was this 285 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 3: and I did. 286 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: That, like shoot, because then you'll remember it, right, yeah. 287 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: Because it's like it's those moments that like I will 288 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 3: never forget because like the embarrassment of like messing things 289 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: up like. 290 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 4: That, you don't want to miss it, make a mistake again. 291 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 3: And I think that's just how I learned. Obviously, you 292 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,359 Speaker 3: do your best not to ever get in those situations, 293 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: but like when those happen, you never at least I 294 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 3: never forget. I think CJ. CJ is kind of the 295 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: same way too. He's he said that multiple times. It's 296 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: like he he talks about like defensive coverages and he's like, yeah, 297 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 3: once I've seen that, like ya' gonna get me again. 298 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 4: It's amazing because he's a rookie. You got Tank, who's 299 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: a rookie. 300 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 5: I mean, everyone's new in the system, Like I guess 301 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 5: we don't even give enough appreciation of the fact that, 302 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 5: like you're a veteran saying it's so hard to learn 303 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 5: all these formations. 304 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's a lot. It's just a lot. 305 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 2: Is it necessary? Is it necessary? 306 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to get you on here to say, oh, 307 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: it's not necessary what we do, but you know, do 308 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: you need that many variations and formations to throw the 309 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: defense off. 310 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: Or especially in this offense, Like everybody can play everywhere. 311 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: I can do everything. So it's like Bobby wants to 312 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 3: put a certain person in some spot to do a 313 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: certain thing. Like Bobby's gonna find a way to do that. 314 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, that's completely necessary. 315 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: You said everyone can do everything. We already saw a 316 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: running back, play kicker outside of tight end if you 317 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: weren't a tight end in the Yeah. 318 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 3: I think becks are emergency long snapper. But I might 319 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: be able to be an emergency long snapper. Yeah, because 320 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 3: I snapped, Like I was the pseudo emergency guy for 321 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 3: the last few years. We never needed that, but like 322 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: I could go in there and. 323 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: Like snap, how did you figure out that you could 324 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: do that? 325 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: I played center growing up, and so like my college 326 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: coaches were like, hey, like you should try to snapping, 327 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: and like I just kind of did it as like 328 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: a you know, like sure, why not? And like you know, 329 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: I was solid at it. I'm not great like but 330 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: like I'm I feel like I'm serviceable. So we'll see. 331 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, easier said than done. Dude, on a 332 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: punt and you got a guy fifteen yards behind you, 333 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: like it's tough, man, Like it's a long way for 334 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: that ball to travel. 335 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: So you played center center like I played center center 336 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: growing up from eight to eight thirteen. 337 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 2: Okay, then you move to what position? 338 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: Outside backer and tight end? Okay, what do you enjoy more? 339 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: What did you enjoy more than that end? 340 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: Really? 341 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: Sure? I was actually d dude, outside backer was kind 342 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 3: of fun, like because there was like I remember in 343 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: a game in Little league, they try to they try 344 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: to throw like a little you know, screen pass, like 345 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: a one step to the receiver and like I tipped 346 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: it and picked it off. Like so like, outside backer 347 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: was fun. But dude' scorn touchdowns great, like especially coming 348 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: from like an old lineman background, like come. 349 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,359 Speaker 4: On, the balls in your hands. 350 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean? Like that was a 351 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: best part about being centered is like, oh my god, 352 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: Like I get to touch the ball eight nine years old. 353 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: You're like, I get to touch the ball every play. 354 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: Well, you have to be in a system that utilizes 355 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: the tighten because Stanford didn't utilize the tight end like 356 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: they should in my opinion. 357 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: Then you go to DA then you get more passing wise, 358 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: that's what I mean. 359 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, not blocking, I mean, dude, freaking That's why I 360 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,359 Speaker 3: went to Stanford. 361 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: Though, Yet you like you were targeted more as a 362 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: pro than you. 363 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: Were Christian McCaffery, Brice Love in the backfield. You know what, 364 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: I remember we were running power like all day every day. 365 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: So you didn't mind that. Hell no, you know that 366 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: that's the sign of a good teammate. 367 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: Tight end blocking is hell of fun. Like blocking is 368 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: a great time. 369 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: Most tight ends nowadays don't say that I just wanted 370 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: to catch the ball and get all the glory, like 371 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: actually appreciate hearing. 372 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: No, that's that's amazing. That was like one of the 373 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: because that's the offense that I grew up in in 374 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 3: like high school. Is like we were kind of the same. 375 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: We were like power owner. I so like, you know, 376 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: some rollouts seam benders, but like it was very much 377 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 3: like a downhill like power scheme. So like I was like, 378 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 3: I've done this all my life, Stanford does it. Like 379 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: I was actually the one that reached out to Stanford 380 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 3: because I'm like, dude, y'all are losing or losing freaking 381 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: Levine to a Lolo Kolby Fleeener, Ryan Hewitt zach Ertz 382 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: like all in one formation, Like y'all got like four 383 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 3: guys out on the field like playing running power and 384 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: that's splitting people out and throwing freaking deep balls. Like 385 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 3: so I don't know that was that was the best 386 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: of both the worlds to me, Like, yeah. 387 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: We talked to a lot of people and for someone 388 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: to be like, man, I love blocking. 389 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: That's that a lot, dude. 390 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: It's fun. 391 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: You know. 392 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: As a former defensive lineman, I like I like the trenches, 393 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: but I just don't hear that from tight ends anymore. 394 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: Well, dude, it's like that's all you take an offensive 395 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 3: lineman and like you sit them down. 396 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: It's great. 397 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 3: It's a great feeling, right, It's like one of the 398 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: best feelings in ball, like catch and touchdown is great, 399 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 3: but like like like putting somebody on their back, bro, 400 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: like when you know when like when you know he's 401 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: trying to get through and you'd like shut him down. 402 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 5: Bro's can I ask you what your favorite block that 403 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 5: you've ever landed has been. 404 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: I'm I'm gonna have to come back to that because okay, 405 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta search the archives and in the brain. 406 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: Maybe after the break you think about. 407 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: It, you can settle a debate. Do you remember Germany 408 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: shocking that name? Yeah? Yeah, from Miami. So when I 409 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: was in Philly and he's in the Giants, he's blocking me, 410 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: he's doing a good job, but. 411 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: I tripped over. 412 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: The happens so much. 413 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: I tripped over like a receiver, so it looked like 414 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: a pancake, and he's on top of me like, yeah, caloo, 415 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: I got you. I said, now that doesn't count. I tripped, 416 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: he said. This is in the middle of a play, 417 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: and he's like, no, it's still a pancake. And we're arguing. 418 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, na, Germy, that's not a pancake. So as 419 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: a tight end, is that a pancake? 420 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're under graduated. 421 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 3: So literally, so listen these so granted, like you can 422 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: tell like when you when a guy gets foot trafficked, 423 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: Like when you're watching film and you see somebody like 424 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: hit the ground hard, like you kind of got to 425 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 3: rewind it and go like, okay, like did that guy 426 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 3: like take his soul or did something happen right? And 427 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: like most of the time it's foot traffic, like a 428 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: guy's foot will get stepped on or like caught on 429 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 3: somebody else's foot, guy gets off balance, boom. But like, hell, yeah, 430 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: that cake, that's football on the other side. I'm on 431 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 3: the other side of stuff like that, and like yeah, 432 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: like that that just still counts for them. 433 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to call him that you got me, Jeremy, 434 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: because uh, you know, it was funny. It wasn't funny 435 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: at the time because I was how many people saw 436 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: that on national television. But we've always had that debate 437 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: whether or not it's a pancake if the foot traffic 438 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: we didn't use that term, if you trip over somebody's foot, 439 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: So all right, Golden Schultz says, it's still a pancake. 440 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 4: No, it's still a pancake for him. 441 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 5: And if you speaking of emergency rules, if you ever 442 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 5: had to play an emergency role on offense, what would 443 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 5: it be? 444 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: You know, what I always thought I could play tight end. 445 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: And in high school, yeah, I went to a big 446 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: school and they didn't just let us go both ways, 447 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, play both ways. But during the spring game, 448 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: I asked my coach let me play tight end during 449 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: the spring game. And it was fun. But just like 450 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: you said, it's very tough. Like to me, running the 451 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: routes catching the balls easier than the blocking. I never 452 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: understood how. 453 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: You get that at this level, Like, oh I could. 454 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't even imagine doing a level like trying to. 455 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 5: Learn it seems like you have to learn a lot 456 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 5: of different types of thing. You know, it's a it's 457 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 5: a very skill set that's. 458 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: Usually like the hardest transition for guys. Like when you 459 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: first come in, it's like, dude, you're twenty one, twenty 460 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: two years old, Like blocking a dude who's thirty four 461 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: with six kids, you know, like he's blocking grown man, 462 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's different than blocking like 463 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: you know, another kid who's twenty twenty one. So I 464 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 3: think just that transition of like okay, like I gotta 465 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: get I can put my dad pants on, you know, 466 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: come to work. But yeah, I would say I'm with you, 467 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: on that. 468 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: The blacking what I never understood, Like you can't be 469 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: overly aggressive, right, you have to position yourself and get aggressive. 470 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: So are there certain things you practice for that? Because 471 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: it's easy to down black if you just you know, 472 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 1: aggressively hit someone down. But when they're head up on you, Like, 473 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: are you kind of doing like a read technique? 474 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, Like that's what made JJ and honestly that's TJ. 475 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: Watts so good. It's like they'll like light you up 476 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 3: on play in the very next play the one step 477 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 3: swim or like one step avoid. It's like you get 478 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: too head heavy, like you're literally just gonna fall on 479 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: your face and look like an idiot. So like those 480 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: guys that kind of mix it up and are able 481 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: to do both, like they make they make our jobs 482 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: hard because like now you don't know what you're getting 483 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 3: all the time. I feel like I'm shouldn't be giving 484 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 3: off the trade that. 485 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 5: I mean, you can give that secret out, but it's 486 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 5: hard to prepare for, like a variation of you know 487 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 5: how a guy's going to come at you, you know 488 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 5: his like arsenal moves, which is what I would imagine 489 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 5: defensive linemen and pass rushers are always working on That's why 490 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 5: I always hear they're working on different types of moves 491 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 5: and trying to have us pull out a surprise move 492 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 5: and practice everynd there. 493 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's got like one move that like you got 494 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: to prepare for, and then they'll have two or three offsets. 495 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: So like you know, it's like it's a pitcher. It's 496 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: like you know, everything everything works off your fastball. You 497 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 3: got a really good fastball. Now your curve is way 498 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 3: harder to hit. Now your slider is really hard to hit. 499 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: Like those are your offsets, your change up like the changes, 500 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: but the fastball is your one move that it's like, 501 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: good luck, buddy, hit this, you know what I mean. 502 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 3: So like more guys can like switch those things up, 503 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 3: like the harder they are to play against. 504 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: And on the flip side, you have defensive lineman study 505 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: to tie it in and you can tell when he's 506 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: going to go out for a past route if he 507 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: gets lazy with his things, or you could tell when 508 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: he's going to stay in and blocked. So you know, 509 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: the way they look at defensive ends and edge rushers, 510 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: that's how we look at tight ends. All right, we're 511 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: going to take a quick time time out. Excuse me, 512 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz in the house. I want to talk a 513 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: little college because you know, I've always had a respect 514 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: for the true student athletes and a guy who went 515 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: to Stanford. You know it's not quite Rice University, but 516 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: you know they say. 517 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: It's the rights. 518 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: Well, we'll talk about that experience and so much more. 519 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz joined us in the Texans Huddle. Don't touch 520 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: that down, welcome in, Welcome back, Texans Huddle. I am 521 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: indeed she is DP. Dalton Schultz sitting at the desk, 522 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: and we appreciate the time we have with him. I 523 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: wanted to talk a little bit about your collegiate career 524 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: and some of the you know, just what it was like. 525 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: And I hate to admit when I talk to some 526 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: of these college kids now and I get a chance to, 527 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, spend days with him, I find myself saying, 528 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: when do you study? But I know that's not the 529 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: case in Stanford. So just kind of let us know 530 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: what that was like. 531 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it was very clear, like from the start, 532 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: that's like no, like y'all are going to class, y'all 533 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 3: are doing y'all's own work, Like there's no no shortcuts, 534 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 535 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: Do the coaches appreciate that? And like if you're going 536 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: to be late to practice because of a lab. 537 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's that's real. So like dude, our practices 538 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: sometimes would be at six thirty five thirty, six thirty 539 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: because you'd have to wait for like you know, six 540 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: guys who are starters who are like in Humbio labs. 541 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Like you know what I mean. It's so 542 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 3: like they would make the practice schedule later or offset 543 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 3: whatever just to make sure that guys could like make 544 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: it to practice. Like you'd go in and early early 545 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: morning for like a special teams meeting in the morning, 546 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: go to breakfast, go to class, go about your school day, 547 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 3: hit a lift somewhere in there, whether it's early morning 548 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: or like you know, middle of the day, you know, 549 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: go to another class, and then it's like you go 550 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: back in for your install meeting and then practice it 551 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: in the evening. I remember getting off the field at 552 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: you know, seven thirty eight o'clock and it's like, you know, 553 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 3: you go in and you get changed up, and you're 554 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: leaving the building by like nine it's dark eys, and 555 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: you're like, shit, I gotta get dinner, Like I still 556 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: got to eat. 557 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 5: You've got like tests and homework, and you got to 558 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 5: figure out a time to study all that. 559 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 3: You're so your freshman year you have god, what is 560 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: it as some hour you have to you have to 561 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 3: do study hall. You have to go into like the 562 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: study hall building and sign in and literally like just 563 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: sit in there and study for you know, X amount 564 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: of hours a week, and like they kind of are like, no, 565 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: like you have to do it. Oh, so like they 566 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 3: kind of they put it on you early to be 567 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 3: like you no, like you better get your school work 568 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: taken care of. 569 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: Did that help when you got through the NFL and 570 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: now you're presented with this huge playbook that's much larger 571 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: than what you have. 572 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because they don't have any school Yeah yeah. 573 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 4: Yeah that helps more time. No, la test. If you 574 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 4: didn't go. 575 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 5: To Stanford, I think I talked to you about this 576 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 5: before you were up in Utah. Uh, you probably would. 577 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 5: I remember you saying you would not have gone to 578 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 5: school in Utah. But where else would you have gone? 579 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 3: Maybe where else? I liked Washington at the time. They 580 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 3: signed a bunch of guys in my class, And same 581 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: thing with Notre Dame, Like I like Notre Dame, but 582 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 3: Notre Dame signed you know, three or four guys, and 583 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, I really want to go to Stanford. 584 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: Like I knew I wanted to go, and like I 585 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 3: wanted to be there, especially after visiting. Like one time, 586 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, what was about the visit? 587 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: Have you been on Sanford? Not bro go to Stanford's 588 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: campus and just like walk around in the spring, walk 589 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 3: around in the fall and tell me that it's not 590 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: like the best campus. 591 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: And now were you in the country were you thinking 592 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: as a youngster, like you know what, I also want 593 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: to go somewhere with high academic standards or. 594 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: No. That was That was it because at the end 595 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: of the day, like I wanted to play good football, 596 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: but like I want to have a fallback plan, you know, 597 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 3: and like nobody knows how the football stuff is going 598 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: to work out, Like anything can happen. You could, you know, 599 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: get a big injury, you know whatever, and I wanted 600 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 3: to be sure that no matter what, like I could 601 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 3: have something that I can really you know, kind of 602 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: rely on, you know, to to make it and provide for, 603 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: you know, my family in the future. And so Stanford 604 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 3: was like as a no brainer for me. 605 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: Like what was. 606 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: Major STS, which is like science, Technology, and Society. I guess, 607 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: so I got a Bachelor of Science and like STS, 608 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: which is like it kind of turned into like an 609 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: athlete degree a little bit, but only just because like 610 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: you could really pick and choose like a bunch of 611 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 3: courses and so, like I really wanted to do game design, 612 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: but we didn't have a game design major, and like 613 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 3: the only thing close was like computer science, and so 614 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 3: computer science was great, but like, dude, I did not 615 00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: want to. 616 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 4: Take It's a lot of extra stuff. 617 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: I didn't want to take math. I'm like, dude, Like 618 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 3: I in high school, like I got in a pre 619 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 3: CALC and like CALCU and I'm like, dude, this imaginary 620 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: stuff Like no, and like I heard, you know, all 621 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: the other guys going through all the math math classes, 622 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: Like you know, teachers have thick accents. There's this piece 623 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 3: set and this piece set, and you got like I'm 624 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: like dude, no way, And so like I chose SCSUSE 625 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: and I took all the same computer science classes and 626 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 3: like I basically switched out all the math stuff for 627 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 3: like design and like so it's product design, and there 628 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: was a few and stuff, right, yes, yeah, but like 629 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: there was a few, I want to say, like three 630 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: or four like gaming specific like courses that like I 631 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: went to my like program major and was like, hey, 632 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 3: can I put these in the Can I put these 633 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: in the program? 634 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: Like? 635 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: And I had to basically petition to like make them 636 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: a part of my major because I'm like, here's what 637 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: I want to do, Like, I want to do game design. 638 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: Can you help me build a track that will like 639 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,959 Speaker 3: help me do that? And she was all for it. 640 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: This is one thing one of the many things I 641 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: love about the show. You learn about the guys you 642 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: know off the football field. So that's very interesting to me, 643 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: Like that you knew you wanted to do games. When 644 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: did you find out you were passionate about Obviously you're 645 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: a gamer coming up, I'm assuming, And was there like 646 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: a type of game you wanted to do that design? 647 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: Sports? 648 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: I just that's that's always been my past time. And 649 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, if I'm going to school and getting 650 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: a degree, like it's going to be in something that 651 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: like I find fun because like that's what everybody says, like, 652 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: do find something you love to do and life you know, 653 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 3: like so for me it's been football and like the 654 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: gaming slash like coding side. 655 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: Do you use it now? 656 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he's a huge gamer. 657 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Now, so did you design it? Did you use what 658 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: you learned? 659 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: So like I didn't. I didn't code any of my 660 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: own games, play any of my own games, but like 661 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: I'm a big time gamer, like I have a whole 662 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, the videos kind of we do my 663 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: own horn but like I put a lot of time 664 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: in like set. 665 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 4: I stumbled upon this in my interview with Dalton. But 666 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: then yeah, and then but then. 667 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 5: Somebody had some footage of you and maybe that was 668 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 5: your own footage of your actual gaming setup, which I 669 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 5: saw after the fact. He's got this, he's got like 670 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: all these same microphones that we have and the camera 671 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 5: like he knows don't knows everything about our audio visual 672 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 5: setup here because he has his own gaming setup that 673 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 5: is very good at home. Which, by the way, like 674 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 5: I think my kids are kind of at that age 675 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 5: where they're getting into college and studying gaming design is 676 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 5: a big major now Like now, don't don't now if 677 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 5: you went to college more. 678 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: It's way more mainstream. 679 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 5: Now and there's a lot more courses for kids that 680 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 5: want to do that, like in those tracks like he's 681 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 5: showing India. 682 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 4: It is a wo moment. 683 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: Can I just say though, like I have a lot 684 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 5: of respect for you enjoying coding because I was an 685 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 5: engineering major and I liked the math and I couldn't 686 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 5: stand the coding. 687 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 4: I thought the code was So. 688 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: The coding is awesome hard. 689 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 5: It's a puzzle, it is, and it's like an exercise 690 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 5: in patience because you could write hundreds and hundreds of 691 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 5: line of code and if something's wrong. 692 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 3: With your punctuations off, yeah, you put in like a wrong. 693 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: You start, you start messing around with like Python, like. 694 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I did plus plus extra. Yeah it was. 695 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 5: An extra space will like screen and you will know 696 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 5: and you will know, you'll just know it's not running. 697 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 5: And then you got to go back and troubleshoot and 698 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 5: figure out what the thing is out of these hundreds 699 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 5: of line Like I didn't have the patience for it, 700 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 5: and I never got through. 701 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: First of all, it's deciding how you want to tackle 702 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: whatever problem, because there's a hundred ways of skin of 703 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 3: cat like yes, and then it's like okay, like how 704 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: do I make my solution work? Like, let me try 705 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: to mess around, and then it's trial and error, and 706 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: then it's like, all right, it was just working and 707 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 3: I in putting two more lines of code and now 708 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 3: it's broken, Like okay. 709 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 5: You have to be detective almost like what did I 710 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 5: do differently? And then the error changes so you're like, okay, 711 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 5: so maybe yeah, I didn't have the patience you enjoy 712 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 5: all that you enjoyed, the troubleshooting and the writing code. 713 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: You need to know maybe that much coding because like 714 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: basically they've done all the coding like for you under 715 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 3: the hood, and they've given you building blocks to basically 716 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: put together and make st like here's. 717 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 5: The algorithm, like if you put this paragraph of code in, 718 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 5: it will do this. 719 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 4: Is that what you're saying, Like they're just. 720 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 3: Getting graphical interface that they have to like instead of 721 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 3: So in order to make a car, you don't need 722 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: to know how to make an engine. They give you 723 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 3: the engine. They say, all right, now put this in 724 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: your car, and you just pick up the engine and 725 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 3: put it in the car. And now if you want 726 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: to tweak the engine a little bit, yeah, you'll maybe 727 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 3: need to know how an engine works or transmission works 728 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 3: to maybe make the transmission act like you want it, 729 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 3: but like they just are giving you the parts and 730 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: you know, are allowing you to basically like drop it 731 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: in your car. Now you can change what kind of 732 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 3: engine it is and what the engine looks like, and 733 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: maybe if it's a six cylinder engine or a twelve 734 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 3: V twelve Like you can make all those changes. Like 735 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: it's not hard, but in order to like actually go 736 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: in and like fine tune that engine, that's when you'll need, 737 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: Like you're just a little bit of coding experience. 738 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: So with your background when you play games, is it 739 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: a little different than like a dummy like me, like, oh, 740 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: that looks cool. 741 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: The graphics are cool. 742 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: Like d like, yo, how the hell did they or 743 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: like how the hell did they make this? Like animation 744 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 3: or like dude, I think of like all the stuff 745 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: that would have to go into making that game. Like 746 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: I'm on a Cyberpunk kick right now, Like I didn't 747 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 3: play Cyberpunk when it first came out because of all 748 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 3: the bugs and stuff. But it's this basically open world 749 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: like you know, RPG slash first person shooter, and it 750 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: drops you in this like futuristic utopia of a city 751 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 3: and everybody's outfitted with like cyberware and like bionic eyes 752 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: and you know bionic arms, and you know legs that 753 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: make you double, like all this cool stuff. But like 754 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: just the detail in the environment and stuff is like 755 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 3: mind blowing to me. Let alone, like the all the 756 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: cool like graphicals. 757 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a whole story that they have to create, 758 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 5: like an entire setting and a story with characters and 759 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 5: a storyboard. 760 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 3: And I enjoy I enjoy going into like the corner, 761 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: like the corners of the world and like seeing how 762 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: much detail like a developer puts into like a corner 763 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 3: that like, yeah, maybe ten percent of the player base 764 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 3: is going to go into, but like seeing how much 765 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: care and time that like goes into just like that 766 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 3: tiny little area that's always so. 767 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 2: You're just walking around looking appreciated video. 768 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: Dude, it's cool. It's like super cool to see, you know. 769 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 3: Just it's because these things are creations, Like there are 770 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 3: artistic creations for a lot of people, and like seeing 771 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 3: the time that people can spend and like how good 772 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 3: of a job they can do. 773 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 4: That's a great way to look at it. 774 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 2: For two questions. 775 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: One my first one, when fans hear this are they 776 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: clamoring to get you to play with them or play 777 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: in there saying. 778 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, people ask like people, yeah, people people asking like 779 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 3: I do that in the off seasons, Like I'll play 780 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 3: games and like, you know, I'll stream on Twitch or 781 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 3: you know wherever, and you know, all run games with 782 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: like viewers and like they'll you know, I've got a 783 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: list and people can like literally just put themselves in 784 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: the list and like all queue up games and like 785 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: I'll just go down the list. It's fun and like 786 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 3: you meet a lot of like really cool people. So 787 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: I've been having a lot of fun with that over 788 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: the last couple of years. 789 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: And my second question, when you're done with football decade 790 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: past from now, do. 791 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 3: You see. 792 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 2: Are you going to immerse yourself. 793 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's That's something that I've wanted to like try. 794 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be doing that anyway, might as well. But yeah, 795 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: I could. I could see myself going down a certain 796 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 3: path like that. Whether whether I'm you know, streaming or 797 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 3: like I want to do something in that space, I 798 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 3: don't know. I think like shadowing a you know, in 799 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 3: a company would be great. Like so Gearbox has a 800 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 3: like headquarters in Frisco, which I'm living near Frisco up 801 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 3: in Dallas. 802 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 4: And like, have you ever gone there? Is this your 803 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 4: official asks to do something with. 804 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 3: Gearbox, Like they've you know, they've basically been like hey, 805 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 3: like let us know, and like, you know, it's it's 806 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: just cool that there's like studios because I grew up 807 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 3: a big Borderlands fan and like, I don't know if 808 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 3: you guys know what Borderlands is, but it's a game 809 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 3: made by Gearbox. It's like in a super cartoony slash 810 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 3: like comic book art style, and dude, Borderlands too is 811 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 3: like the funniest, like most well written game that like 812 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: I've ever played in, like one of my favorite games 813 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: of all time, and like I still go back and 814 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: like play that. And so to have that that studio 815 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 3: that made that, their headquarters is like right basically right 816 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: down the street from me. Like that's freaking that's sweet. 817 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And so I don't know, I'd love to 818 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 3: I would love to learn more about the intricacies that 819 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 3: kind of like all go in. And I've got friends 820 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 3: that work in that industry. Like one of my best 821 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 3: friends works you know, he's worked at a bunch of 822 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: different places, like he helped make Halo infinite and a 823 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: bunch of different you know, companies, and so I know 824 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 3: a lot more than like I used to. But still 825 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: I want to take a peek behind the curtain and 826 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 3: just kind of see, you know, a day to day 827 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 3: in that in that space. 828 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 4: Maybe a summer internship. 829 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like I do an internship. 830 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 4: I know we've had players do internships like in the 831 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 4: off season. 832 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 3: It's hard to do it, like it's hard for you 833 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: for my mind to do it, like while I'm still playing. 834 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,720 Speaker 3: That's when I'm done. Like that, I could absolutely see 835 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 3: an avenue into that. 836 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: But because I'm assuming I don't know anything about the 837 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: tech world, gaming world, that the advancements are so quick, 838 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: don't you have to kind of stay to speed with Yeah? 839 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and maybe. 840 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: Even I'm so behind a ball in terms of like 841 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 3: what the code languages. So I need to need to 842 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 3: get back on my study grind when I'm done. 843 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: All right, quick time out. One more segment to go. 844 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz sitting here. Very interesting interview. 845 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 3: And I knew interesting sometimes needs bad. Why Yeah, you've 846 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: heard that it's like. 847 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 4: Going off com. 848 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,479 Speaker 1: No, no, no, definitely it doesn't mean bad here because 849 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 1: the whole gaming and the passion because most guys that 850 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: you know I talked to is it's the stereotypical Sam 851 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: Old Sam, you know what, I'm done with football, want 852 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: to be a trainer, a physical trainer. But to know 853 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: that you really have this gaming background and you've even 854 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: studied it, that's that's actually pretty cool and it's very 855 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: interesting in a positive way. One more segment to go. 856 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: We'll get back on the field. Texans huddle. Right here, 857 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: Texans Huddle. One more segment to go with our main man, 858 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. I think the conversation off air might be 859 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: more interesting for some of the people because I just 860 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: learning from me and hearing about his gaming experiences and 861 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,959 Speaker 1: the level that he plays at is pretty is very 862 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: interesting in a good way. 863 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 5: Very And I love that you and your wife both 864 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 5: game together and she has her own setup, because I 865 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 5: think that's I think that's fantastic you tie together. 866 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 3: She's to the point where like she might be better 867 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: at Fortnite than men. Oh boy, Like you know, I'll 868 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 3: jump in with her and like play some games and 869 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, how are you level one hundred already? Like 870 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 3: a battle pass has been out for like three weeks. 871 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 5: She's not playing professional football during the season, so she 872 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 5: set a little bit more time. 873 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: All right, speaking of professional football, I guess we have 874 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: to get back to the boring sports because this has 875 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: been really fascinating to just kind of talk about going 876 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: into the season. I'm assuming it's game by game, but 877 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: your expectations and what are you surprised at? What with 878 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: with what you've been able to accomplish so far? Great question. 879 00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 3: I think honestly, there's just so much uncertainty when you're 880 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: moving teams and like you haven't been in a building 881 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 3: and it's an entirely new staff and a bunch of 882 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 3: new you know, players and a new locker rooms, just 883 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: a whole lot of new and you're not really sure 884 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 3: what to kind of expect. There's talk in the draft 885 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,319 Speaker 3: of like, hey, we might get this guy, we might 886 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 3: do this, Like it was a whole lot of like 887 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 3: let's see how this goes. And I think, you know, 888 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 3: over the course of the last few months, like having 889 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,919 Speaker 3: guys step up in big roles, you know, whether it's 890 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: you know, quarterback or offensive line or linebacker, d line, 891 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 3: whatever it is, Like, you know that confidence has just 892 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 3: continued to build ever since we started in OTAs and 893 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 3: so I think, you know, going forward, that's what excites 894 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: me most is like we still have like so many 895 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 3: young guys and we have so many guys that are 896 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 3: playing such good football that could be playing even like 897 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 3: so much better football. Like it's it's exciting, like it's 898 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 3: exciting times and so like I'm honestly I wouldn't say surprise, 899 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 3: but like I mean maybe that's about maybe it is. 900 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: The best word is like that we've had so many 901 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 3: young guys play so well so far. Like usually it 902 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 3: takes like I said, like the transition from the tight 903 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 3: end of the league, like it takes a couple of 904 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: years sometimes in other positions, like yeah, it takes takes 905 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: a little bit, but you know, I think we've had 906 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 3: guys step up in big ways like now, like immediately 907 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 3: making impacts. 908 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 5: I think that's what's surprising to me too. It's like 909 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 5: I'll hear Cjay talk after the game, and he usually 910 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 5: talks about the plays that were left on the field 911 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 5: and I and I get that sense that a lot 912 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 5: of you guys feel that way too. 913 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 3: Football Like that's like well, if you've just done this, 914 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 3: if you like, if you truly like the game, like 915 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 3: that's that's the natural that's the natural reaction, because that's 916 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 3: the first thing that I think of too. You do, Yeah, 917 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 3: for sure, it's like good, I want that playback, or like, ah, God, 918 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 3: I wish I did this and this, and dude, I 919 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 3: get I don't care if it's one play or ten 920 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 3: plays like that. One play is always going to be 921 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 3: like dude, god, I should have caught that, or like, god, 922 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 3: I wish I would have taken my block that way 923 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 3: instead of the other way. Like those things are when 924 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 3: you're competing, and especially at the highest level, it's like 925 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 3: those are the those are the things that make you know, 926 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 3: good players great. Is like finding a way to make 927 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 3: those plays great plays. 928 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: The next week you played in Dallas, played with a 929 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: you know, a good quarterback there. Can you talk about 930 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: some of the differences and similarities with Dak Prescott and CJ. 931 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 2: Streu. 932 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've gotten this question a couple of times. But 933 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 3: like I do, I hate comparing Like I don't. I 934 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: don't play the comparison game. Like I think they're both 935 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 3: great leaders in their own way, but like, dude, that 936 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 3: their own players. Man, Like you know, I get they 937 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 3: play the same position and the media loves comparing stats 938 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 3: and this and that dog like they're two great players 939 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 3: that are both playing really good football, and like I 940 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 3: love them both to death, Like they're they're their own, 941 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 3: they're their own guys. Like let bygones be by gones. 942 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: Like and just so you know, that wasn't one of 943 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: those I know I got you moments because obviously I 944 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: know I didn't know if like they communicated, like one's quieter, 945 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: one's louder. But uh, but but I love your answer 946 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, it just let them be themselves. 947 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 3: I mean CJ's young, like he's going to grow into 948 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 3: his own shoes, like in this league, he's going to 949 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 3: be his own guy, and Dak's going to continue to 950 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 3: evolve too, Like they're their own they're their own players. 951 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: What type of advice did you did you play with 952 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: Jason Whitten? Yeah, so that's a guy that played a 953 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 1: long time in this league and when you were young 954 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 1: in the league, you know obviously had a chance to 955 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: play with him. What type of advice did he give you? 956 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: And do you see yourself as a season vent talking 957 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: to some of these young pass catchers, whether it's receiver 958 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: or tight end. 959 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:59,359 Speaker 3: Dude, it's so cliche but like my favorite thing and 960 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 3: like it continues to kind of like liver and free 961 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 3: Is would always had a He would always say like, 962 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 3: hey man, can't cheat the muse, Like, ain't no shortcuts, 963 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 3: Like whatever you're doing, like, trust me, there's no there's 964 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 3: no easy way, like you're either going to put the 965 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: work in or you're not. And if you want to 966 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 3: be great, there's no there's there's no other path than 967 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 3: working your ass off, So you can't cheat. The muse 968 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 3: is like, my that's my favorite. 969 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you can't. If it was easy, everybody 970 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 5: would do it, right. I mean that's what they say 971 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 5: the work ethic. I know you and I have talked 972 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 5: don't and I have talked about how he's learned everything 973 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 5: about being a pro from Jason Witten. 974 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 4: What about for. 975 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 5: You guys in the locker room come to you for advice, 976 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 5: what's your biggest piece of advice? Is that your biggest 977 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 5: piece of advice to them? 978 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like I don't want to be that 979 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 3: unless will. Yeah, you come up to me and are 980 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 3: like like hey man, like you know, I try to 981 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 3: pull people along by showing people like what you should do, 982 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 3: Like it's hard at this level, Like everybody's grown. Everybody's 983 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 3: going to do what they want and unless you're seeking 984 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 3: that stuff out, like I'm not, like I don't know, 985 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 3: I feel weird about going up to a guy and 986 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 3: being like, hey, like you should do this, you know 987 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, Yeah, the guys that want to 988 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 3: do that will find a way to do that or 989 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 3: ask for help to be able to do that. And 990 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 3: so I think, you know, I'm absolutely like if anybody's 991 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 3: got any questions or like you know, wants that from me, 992 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 3: I can absolutely be that guy for people. But at 993 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 3: the same time, like I want to let guys grow 994 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 3: themselves and like take their own steps and like learn 995 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 3: their own ways and find their own ways to do things. 996 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, like and this 997 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 3: is super applicable in the tight end room, Like I've 998 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 3: got I've gotten the my ways of doing stuff, and 999 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 3: like that might not be the best way for somebody 1000 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 3: else to do stuff. Like that's the way that i 1001 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 3: found success doing things, and like that's the way that 1002 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 3: I'm gonna continue to evolve my game. But like that 1003 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 3: might be different than somebody else who's stronger or faster, 1004 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 3: or you know, plays at one speed. One way all 1005 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: the time and doesn't want to like it's it's hard, 1006 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to. I don't want to 1007 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 3: bog another guy down with some stuff that I'm thinking 1008 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 3: about pre snap or before a play, just because that 1009 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 3: might slow them down. And now all of a sudden, 1010 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 3: they're they're thinking too much and doing stuff. 1011 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 4: That's you know, out of there, not who they are. 1012 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 3: The characteristics of what makes them great, and so I think, 1013 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm absolutely here, but I don't want to. 1014 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to, like, you know, come at somebody 1015 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 3: and be like, hey, dude, like do this whipper snapper. 1016 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: If you want one hundred yards like I had, you 1017 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: had to do it like this. Yeah, that's gonna do 1018 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: it for us today. You know what, I'm gonna put 1019 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: this out there in the off season uninvited. I'm just 1020 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 1: gonna show up to your house at Dallas and then 1021 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna address I'm gonna tell my sons that I'm 1022 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 1: gonna play with them and that not Minecraft. 1023 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 2: What's the game you and your wife played? 1024 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: Because they play for Fortnite, But I'm gonna have you 1025 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: actually play so yeah for me, so you can kick 1026 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 1: their tail I'll put the control on your hand. I'll 1027 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: be in the corner, yeah, telling you what to do. 1028 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: But man, awesome, awesome stuff. We appreciate the time and uh, 1029 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, good luck for the rest of the season 1030 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 1: and continue to success. Thank you. That's gonna do it 1031 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: for us today. Texting all Access coming up next, or 1032 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: touch that down. 1033 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 4: We'll be right back with Texans all Access. Don't go 1034 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 4: anywhere