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Just to 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.920 go behind the curtain a little bit. It has been 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:07.800 like a very long time since we've sat down and 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.880 done a podcast. You guys. The Miracle of Banking episodes, um, 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.959 so thanks for all of your fun feedback, especially for 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:20.319 our our holiday specials and various Night Call Museum episodes 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.760 and whatnot. Um those were really fun to do, so 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:27.880 I'm glad everybody liked them too. Hey, speaking of uh, 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.280 Night Museum and the Black Mirror episode that kind of 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:37.000 inspired it. We're going to talk about Black Mirrors, new 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:43.160 interactive episode and bird Box band or snatched bird Box, 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.760 which somebody made the joke on Twitter that that's the 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.600 guy who plays Doctor Strange, and someone also made the 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:51.680 joke that both of them sound like Victorian names for 0:01:51.720 --> 0:02:00.240 female genitalia and bird box. There is something very like 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.880 unplaceable hilarious about the name bird box, and I kept 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:05.760 like searching for a joke about it because it just 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.680 sounds like a fake name. Let's talk about that, because yeah, Okay, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:12.400 So what Emily was talking about was that there was 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:17.080 a conspiracy, possibly true, that Netflix was seeding some fake 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:22.360 memes about bird Box astroturfing, astroturfing bird Box memes to 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.679 get the bird Box memes to go in and they 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.160 did get going, They did get going, did and now 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.160 they're just real and now they're real, and so there 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.200 was an article, you know, as this sort of became 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.079 a debate, but there was an article on the Daily 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.240 Dot that kind of followed up with it, and like 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:42.920 I guess talked to people at Netflix who denied that 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.600 they had been astroturfing it said that all of the 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.760 viral content was real and the person who had originally 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.080 kind of floated the idea that these were fake accounts 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:57.360 that were at least seeding the bird box memes. Deleted 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:03.480 their post and because the people who were being accused 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.960 of having fake accounts were coming back and because they 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.959 were getting flooded with mentions, uh and said, you know, no, 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:12.960 I'm a real person, and I'm just like you know, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.120 I don't. I'm just new to Twitter, but I like 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.840 bird box whatever, leave me alone, right, I just I 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.000 just created my account two weeks ago specifically just to 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:24.799 treat bird box content. But how dare you? I mean? 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.720 The argument was very compelling because these were all the 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:33.320 mostly teenage looking avatars with like fifteen followers who just 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.960 created accounts and everything was a bird box meme that 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.840 then received lots and lots of retweets and likes a 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:47.560 suspicious I mean Max read my colleague get New York Meg. 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.120 He had very recently published an article, I think around 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:53.640 Christmas on kind of the idea of of fakery on 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.320 the Internet in general and how the real fake it well, 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.840 that that everything is fake, but also that nobody accepts 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.200 that anything is real anymore, so everything is the facto fake. 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.440 Like we're already at the mercy of the robots. I 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.760 put that in quotes, but like, you know, the idea 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:11.960 that not even a person online, like you have to 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.160 verify that you're a human every step of the way 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.599 to do anything on the internet anymore, the idea of 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.120 being a real person on YouTube, for example, it's more 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.240 probable that that an edity is a bought on YouTube 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.280 than an actual person. So like we spend more time 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.280 trying to prove that we're people. Then yeah, I've all 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.040 said the other way around. Lost my innocence about people 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.280 on the internet, like being who they say they are. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.000 I think is like, like most people are who they 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.200 say they are and are like presenting themselves somewhat accurately, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.240 but some people just are not some people use the 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.120 internet to be scammers. So so here's like the thing 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.279 that I am. I I'm still skeptical about the Netflix 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:53.680 thing because the other thing that happened with bird Box 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:56.479 Bird Boxes just like bird Box the movie itself, I mean, 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:57.920 I don't know if you guys watched it at all, 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:01.320 it is it is dumb as hell. I really dislike 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.760 this movie, but it's also just like boring and just 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.040 kind of it's technically not a quiet place rip off, 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.359 but it may as well be like because it's like 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.000 based on a book that came out before a quietlace 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:13.719 blah blah blah. But it's still like it feels engineered 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.680 to kind of have that effect. Yeah, yeah, it's or 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:19.640 like hush or like any of these other things where 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.359 it's like you can't do one thing with one of 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.520 your five sentences or whatever. Somebody was saying. That means 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.159 we're going to get to a movie where it's like, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:30.719 don't smell anything. I hope you die. I really hope 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:37.080 that don't smell it, and it's called don't smell. There's 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:41.080 like a ginge eedo about just like a horrible smell 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:46.039 that like over the city everything, like a death stench 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.440 that comes from nowhere. That's basically the plot of a 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:52.160 bird Box, except it's something that it's something that you 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.039 can't see but that your eyes like taken and then 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.279 you want to kill yourself, which is like, okay, it's 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:01.120 like an interesting idea, but it's just executed so imaginatively anyway, 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:03.520 it's not really the point, Like I think that bird 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.640 Box has somehow become this this kind of container for 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:12.120 all of our various anxieties about Netflix and viral marketing 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.880 and you know what is real and what is fake 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:16.960 on the Internet. Here's the thing. It's like, I didn't 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.200 initially question that people were like doing bird Box memes 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.320 and talking about bird Box because they dropped it in 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.640 such a dead zone. They dropped it for Christmas. That 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.479 was the whole thing. Was like, it's a prestige movie 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.240 premiering on Netflix, and you can watch it from home 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.240 with your family. But it's a lot of people watched it. 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.440 It is really I just was like, people will watch 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.200 it because it's there, you know. Yeah, it's like strategy 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:45.080 and watch the thing that like Netflix tells you as 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:48.280 a blockbuster event, or go out and spend you know, 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.680 a hundred dollars for your whole family to see Mary 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.559 Poppins returns or whatever. Like they did a good job, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:55.880 and more people I think probably stayed home and watch 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.080 bird Box than went to see Mary Poppins. Well. I 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.640 could also see that the argument of these things being 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.240 real is that if you join Twitter and are a 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.000 teenager and you have no followers, like you're going to 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.520 hop on the train of the thing that is being 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:13.600 hashed just which gained some traction, so that kind of 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.440 makes sense. And also, I mean clearly like the responses 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:20.360 of like no, I'm real, I'm real, Deen like, okay, 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.880 like robots, but it's my first you know thought when 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.720 Emily brought this up as you know, like an astroids 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:30.720 orping thing. But I was like, but why because also Netflix, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.640 you know, band or Snatch has been trending a lot, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.200 and I was like, but why would they need to 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.800 do that with Black Mirror. I mean, Black Mirror is 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.600 talked about a lot. I don't know to do it, 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.200 but I feel like this came up in the max 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.800 Read article, the idea that like all of the trending 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.400 tags are just like fake and paid for for the 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.480 most part, and I'm like, yeah, that checks out. That 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.240 means like, well, it's all just like a con game 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.360 on top of a con game, Like it's just like 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:00.280 a house of cards of like people saying, oh that 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.640 looks legit, Like I've seen so many kids talking about 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.440 bird box. So Netflix must really know what they're doing. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.680 People will agree to have their property or their their 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.920 work or something on on Netflix, for example. So the 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.720 other thing is that that Netflix. I think it was 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.840 that day that all this sort of started to happen 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.400 and or maybe it was a day after but um. 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:25.280 Netflix then tweeted out something on their official account saying 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.760 that UM bird Box was officially like the most watched 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:33.320 film a Netflix original release. They had been watched UM 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.160 on some something like forty five million accounts or something. 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:42.000 Don't also not release their don't release their metrics except 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.160 every once in a while they'll be like, this was 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.880 a record breaker for us, and it's like, how were we? 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.920 Like it would even be specious if it was you know, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.559 like they released it a monthly report or something, but 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:58.679 but they don't even do that. So that Black mirrors 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.960 that Netflix now UM and this episode in particular Bandersnatch 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:08.960 was is like a standalone movie, interactive kind of hypertext thing. Uh, 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.079 it felt like it was about Netflix. Could you also 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.920 feel that way? I did not do it. I I 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.840 there's something so do some Black Mirror. Yeah, I will 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.400 do it eventually, but I do feel less and less 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.120 like immediate. Gotta watch it about Black Mirror. You should 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.000 watch this in terms of it being about Netflix, because 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:30.600 it's about like a creator making something for like a 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:34.160 shadowy company that they're just like, just take the money 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.640 and make the thing. Don't question why it's happening or 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.280 like how this happens. I love Black Mirror, so it 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.920 did feel kind of like a subversive thing to me, especially. 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.440 I mean, it probably wouldn't have, but then by the 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.000 time I watched it, I was thinking so much about 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:54.040 the astros, the astros because it like it makes you 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.520 question the nature of reality. It's more that I just 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.680 totally didn't think of it until someone else pointed it out, 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.640 and then I was like, wow, I'm really still so 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.040 naive about what you say. You got red pilled, I 0:10:07.160 --> 0:10:13.640 got we invent like a new one, like purple pilled 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:20.360 by it, I got perp I think. But I think 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.160 the thing that's makes me feel like a tin hat 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:26.000 crazy person about this stuff is that, you know, after 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.120 the person who who got that viral treat about you 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:31.280 know that I think these accounts are fake and and 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.240 brought up like recorded themselves going back and looking at 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.040 this one person's account and seeing that they had three 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:40.080 followers or whatever, and then they rescinded this. But I'm 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.600 just thinking, like, Okay, yeah, there are probably plenty of 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.760 teens who are actually doing bird box memes because, like 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:49.840 you said, like hot thing, so I think there are 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.920 plenty of real bird box memes, but I do not 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:55.000 at all. And like this is also from I spent 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.640 way too much time that morning looking up all these 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.560 accounts and did find somewhere. It's just like this person 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.880 joined this month. All they do is like content about 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.760 like the found out that like Tide invented the tide 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:13.480 POD's Mealy Big Tide to get Tide trending. Well, what's 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.480 kind of weird about this stuff too, is that the 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.440 companies that are making the products that I really are 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.040 and the content that I really enjoy the most are 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.840 also the companies with it seems the least ethics, you know. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.400 So it's hard because it's like I don't need to 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.160 have anyone tell me to watch Black Mirror. I last 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.520 year when we started the podcast, I had like an 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.120 eye problem that I've talked about and the old The 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.120 first thought I had was like, but there's Black Mirror, 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.640 And like I'm gonna how am I gonna watch Black Mirror? 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.440 You know, like they watched it with your worm eye. 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.280 I watched it with my horror. I waited until I 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.559 could open my one eye enough, but I was to 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.720 watch it. So like yeah, Okay, so there could be 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:59.880 real people making these accounts, but I think that the seeding. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:02.000 I think the seating is you don't have to be 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:06.480 thinking like a conspirator conspirator to to imagine that, because 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.400 I mean, people did that before it was called astroturfing. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.320 Like I used to make fake memes about the Housewives 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.600 for my shitty job, where I just made like where 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.840 I was like a social media manager for like a 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.160 fan site for Bravo shows. Like I just say, like, 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:27.400 don't question just crazy fans of bird Box or just 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.040 making these things because they love it. How dare you 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.280 question the ethics of a giant company making these things 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.040 they want you to consume. Yeah, it's like, can't we 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.680 just let people have fun or something? But it's just 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.280 I mean, after a while, the argument becomes moot because 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:46.600 there are then enough people actually doing the thing that 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.600 they were led to believe was a thing to do, 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:53.040 possibly by you know, astroturfing or some other means that 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.400 then it just becomes like the phenomenon becomes real. It's 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:59.160 no longer synthetic, but it was why they do it. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.280 Clearly it works, Yeah, And I don't know, it just 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.400 makes me feel insane. Well, I was going to say, like, 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.000 I feel like one of the things we always talked 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.080 about on this podcast, even maybe many years ago, was 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:11.920 the idea that like your phones are listening to you, 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.680 which was totally not mainstream at the time, and like 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.640 we had a lot of friends who worked in those 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.040 industries who would be like, no, they wouldn't do that, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.280 and it's like, why wouldn't they, And now we all 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:26.400 know that they do, and it's like unquestioned, And I 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:29.240 still feel like I see people all the time saying, 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.360 like people who are like tech reporters and writers saying 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.760 that this can't be real. But I'm just it's like 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.319 an Okhams Razor thing. If you I think it was 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.960 Dave Hill or something who tweeted about I think it 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.160 was talking about aliveuette cheese and then it's showing up 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.520 on his Instagram, and like, like the Okhams Razor of 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:53.800 that is not like all things, Yeah, oh you like 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.480 cats and you like stripy socks, so therefore you're like 0:13:56.520 --> 0:14:00.840 allouette cheese. No, the like easiest thing to to assume 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:04.080 is that like, yes, you have a microphone on your phone, right, 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:06.880 because then people would have to think about not having 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.439 their phones on them all the time, and everybody has 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.839 just like it within a decade normalized that. I mean 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.280 also just the thing about Facebook reading private messages, where 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.600 it's like that would never have even occurred to me. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.640 You know that that was going on, and you know 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.400 that that Facebook is like going you guys aren't on 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:29.440 Facebook anymore, this is the thing. But the thing when 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.560 they made everybody download that for your phone and you 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.160 couldn't access your messages on Facebook unless you had the 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:38.160 Messenger app, my spider sense went off immediately. I never 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.360 downloaded the messages out because I was like, why are 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.520 they having us do this? And I kind of laid 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.080 off of using WhatsApp to when they bought it, because 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:47.560 I mean I had been using that to talk to 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.480 people like overseas and I was like, I'm not going 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.920 to have substantive conversation anymore. Like, well, I I was 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.440 on Facebook and um, a friend of mine posted about 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.240 like a voice over casting call for a particular learn 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:04.520 model of a particular brand of car, and it was 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.520 just on Facebook, and I liked it. And then I 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.040 was like, oh, I still have the microphone from when 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.480 we did the podcast in the garage like I'll record it, 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.440 I record it, I send it. I hadn't googled the 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.400 model of car. I had not like you know, typed 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:22.840 it out nothing. Five minutes later I got to target 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:26.680 it at for the particular model of car, which I 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.400 had never in my life, sir. And it's like obviously 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:32.040 this is going on, and then you almost feel like 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.040 gas lit because you're like, I'm going I have to 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:38.440 continue because yeah, Like remember there's that picture of Zuckerberg 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.080 where it was like his camera was taped over and 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:42.760 it was like, yeah, because he knows, he knows, he knows, 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:45.040 And they've all been lying the whole time, being like 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.320 we don't know who can say. But I honestly don't 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.680 understand how anybody's I'm sorry tests. I don't know how 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:56.760 people are still on Facebook now, like like they call yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.440 that's true. They own their own Instagram, like yeah, if 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.680 you're on the interior the same thing. I don't know. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.360 Jonesy was talking about how we're all robots now and 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:07.680 somebody was like, I'm not a robot, and he was like, well, 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.160 what's the first thing you do when you like and 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:11.600 what's the last thing you do? At night and they 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.680 were like, look at me, phone, didn't wasn't there something? Phone? 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.520 Look at me phone? Because I'm a robot calling me 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:23.440 birds bird boxes? Um, look you made an organic bird box. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.720 Time see a good one today by Dan da Dario. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.960 He made an art pop bird box meme. Nice, your 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.880 your bird box could be anything exactly, just like once 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.760 a word, it's a funny word. 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Email? Hello, Ladies of the night. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:56.920 First off, just wanted to say I love the pod. 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:00.760 Currently binging the archives and can't stop a couple of things. First, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.000 a potential guest would be who would be amazing? Is 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.000 my friend Vice Cooler. In addition to running the Instagram 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.200 Haunts of l A and taking group slash friend tours 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.200 of haunted ghost towns in California and the surrounding area, 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:15.320 he's also one of my great Disneyland buddies. A wonderful 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.000 wealth of haunted and Disney knowledge. By the way, that's 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.200 like exactly our sweet spot. Yeah, thank you for that recommendation. 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.120 Come on our show. I saw him in real life 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.200 the other day. It wasn't that a person that people 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:34.440 thought was you for a while also thought Valley Haunts 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:38.880 might be our engineer Roy's wife. Yes, um, although she 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.920 has delighted but it turns out she has the same name. 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:46.720 That's really weird specific name. Wait, okay, finishing the email. Second, 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.320 I live in Joshua Tree and although I have yet 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.680 to encounter any mention of Joshua Tree on the pod, 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:53.720 have you guys explored any of the mystery of the 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:56.680 High Days Once you get past the l A hipster invasion, 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.879 it's something of a hotbed of here of mystery UFOs MR. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:02.960 There's crime, meth and probably ghosts would love to hear 0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.080 more on the topic. Happy night Calls. So, Molly, didn't 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.080 you just go to Joshua Yeah, I just went to 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.399 Joshua Tree. Actually went to twenty nine Palms, which is 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.280 next door. But um, I had not been to the 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.399 High Desert since I was a kid when we went 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.840 on family trips there. It is great. It is super weird, 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:25.080 I totally agree. Definitely a place you might see some aliens. Um. Also, 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:29.480 just being able to see the night sky is crazy. Yeah, 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.760 it's very clear out there. Kind of makes you be like, oh, 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:35.439 we invented light pollution to stop us from looking at 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:39.720 this because it's so overwhelming and cool. Didn't somebody send 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.760 us something else about an index of of where where 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:49.000 like dark spots, Yeah, dark sky, dark sky places. It's 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.240 it's a thing about like encouraging more places to have 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.520 less lighting so that you can see the actual night sky. 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:57.919 But again, when you do see it, you're like, it 0:21:58.000 --> 0:22:00.919 makes you very feel very small in a way. That 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.879 is great. Yeah, it has that weird overlap of hippies 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:10.439 and preppers and alien people. I mean, I feel like 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.159 the most famous Joshua Tree thing that's probably like falls 0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.560 in that realm is the integratron just like which I've 0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:20.479 still never actually been in, tried to go like so 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:24.080 many times, and what is the integratron? Is like an 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:28.399 outsider art thing that somebody made that is like a 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.720 sound bath inside. It's like there's no metal in the 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:33.800 construction of It's like a dome, but it's all wood, 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.159 so it like supposedly resonates really like I think it 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:39.920