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Speaker 1: Days and Lonely Nights. Hello nineteen first podcast of the year.
Speaker 1: Start back. We've been doing this weeodcast for about a year,
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Speaker 1: go behind the curtain a little bit. It has been
Speaker 1: like a very long time since we've sat down and
Speaker 1: done a podcast. You guys. The Miracle of Banking episodes, um,
Speaker 1: so thanks for all of your fun feedback, especially for
Speaker 1: our our holiday specials and various Night Call Museum episodes
Speaker 1: and whatnot. Um those were really fun to do, so
Speaker 1: I'm glad everybody liked them too. Hey, speaking of uh,
Speaker 1: Night Museum and the Black Mirror episode that kind of
Speaker 1: inspired it. We're going to talk about Black Mirrors, new
Speaker 1: interactive episode and bird Box band or snatched bird Box,
Speaker 1: which somebody made the joke on Twitter that that's the
Speaker 1: guy who plays Doctor Strange, and someone also made the
Speaker 1: joke that both of them sound like Victorian names for
Speaker 1: female genitalia and bird box. There is something very like
Speaker 1: unplaceable hilarious about the name bird box, and I kept
Speaker 1: like searching for a joke about it because it just
Speaker 1: sounds like a fake name. Let's talk about that, because yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: So what Emily was talking about was that there was
Speaker 1: a conspiracy, possibly true, that Netflix was seeding some fake
Speaker 1: memes about bird Box astroturfing, astroturfing bird Box memes to
Speaker 1: get the bird Box memes to go in and they
Speaker 1: did get going, They did get going, did and now
Speaker 1: they're just real and now they're real, and so there
Speaker 1: was an article, you know, as this sort of became
Speaker 1: a debate, but there was an article on the Daily
Speaker 1: Dot that kind of followed up with it, and like
Speaker 1: I guess talked to people at Netflix who denied that
Speaker 1: they had been astroturfing it said that all of the
Speaker 1: viral content was real and the person who had originally
Speaker 1: kind of floated the idea that these were fake accounts
Speaker 1: that were at least seeding the bird box memes. Deleted
Speaker 1: their post and because the people who were being accused
Speaker 1: of having fake accounts were coming back and because they
Speaker 1: were getting flooded with mentions, uh and said, you know, no,
Speaker 1: I'm a real person, and I'm just like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just new to Twitter, but I like
Speaker 1: bird box whatever, leave me alone, right, I just I
Speaker 1: just created my account two weeks ago specifically just to
Speaker 1: treat bird box content. But how dare you? I mean?
Speaker 1: The argument was very compelling because these were all the
Speaker 1: mostly teenage looking avatars with like fifteen followers who just
Speaker 1: created accounts and everything was a bird box meme that
Speaker 1: then received lots and lots of retweets and likes a
Speaker 1: suspicious I mean Max read my colleague get New York Meg.
Speaker 1: He had very recently published an article, I think around
Speaker 1: Christmas on kind of the idea of of fakery on
Speaker 1: the Internet in general and how the real fake it well,
Speaker 1: that that everything is fake, but also that nobody accepts
Speaker 1: that anything is real anymore, so everything is the facto fake.
Speaker 1: Like we're already at the mercy of the robots. I
Speaker 1: put that in quotes, but like, you know, the idea
Speaker 1: that not even a person online, like you have to
Speaker 1: verify that you're a human every step of the way
Speaker 1: to do anything on the internet anymore, the idea of
Speaker 1: being a real person on YouTube, for example, it's more
Speaker 1: probable that that an edity is a bought on YouTube
Speaker 1: than an actual person. So like we spend more time
Speaker 1: trying to prove that we're people. Then yeah, I've all
Speaker 1: said the other way around. Lost my innocence about people
Speaker 1: on the internet, like being who they say they are.
Speaker 1: I think is like, like most people are who they
Speaker 1: say they are and are like presenting themselves somewhat accurately,
Speaker 1: but some people just are not some people use the
Speaker 1: internet to be scammers. So so here's like the thing
Speaker 1: that I am. I I'm still skeptical about the Netflix
Speaker 1: thing because the other thing that happened with bird Box
Speaker 1: Bird Boxes just like bird Box the movie itself, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys watched it at all,
Speaker 1: it is it is dumb as hell. I really dislike
Speaker 1: this movie, but it's also just like boring and just
Speaker 1: kind of it's technically not a quiet place rip off,
Speaker 1: but it may as well be like because it's like
Speaker 1: based on a book that came out before a quietlace
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But it's still like it feels engineered
Speaker 1: to kind of have that effect. Yeah, yeah, it's or
Speaker 1: like hush or like any of these other things where
Speaker 1: it's like you can't do one thing with one of
Speaker 1: your five sentences or whatever. Somebody was saying. That means
Speaker 1: we're going to get to a movie where it's like,
Speaker 1: don't smell anything. I hope you die. I really hope
Speaker 1: that don't smell it, and it's called don't smell. There's
Speaker 1: like a ginge eedo about just like a horrible smell
Speaker 1: that like over the city everything, like a death stench
Speaker 1: that comes from nowhere. That's basically the plot of a
Speaker 1: bird Box, except it's something that it's something that you
Speaker 1: can't see but that your eyes like taken and then
Speaker 1: you want to kill yourself, which is like, okay, it's
Speaker 1: like an interesting idea, but it's just executed so imaginatively anyway,
Speaker 1: it's not really the point, Like I think that bird
Speaker 1: Box has somehow become this this kind of container for
Speaker 1: all of our various anxieties about Netflix and viral marketing
Speaker 1: and you know what is real and what is fake
Speaker 1: on the Internet. Here's the thing. It's like, I didn't
Speaker 1: initially question that people were like doing bird Box memes
Speaker 1: and talking about bird Box because they dropped it in
Speaker 1: such a dead zone. They dropped it for Christmas. That
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. Was like, it's a prestige movie
Speaker 1: premiering on Netflix, and you can watch it from home
Speaker 1: with your family. But it's a lot of people watched it.
Speaker 1: It is really I just was like, people will watch
Speaker 1: it because it's there, you know. Yeah, it's like strategy
Speaker 1: and watch the thing that like Netflix tells you as
Speaker 1: a blockbuster event, or go out and spend you know,
Speaker 1: a hundred dollars for your whole family to see Mary
Speaker 1: Poppins returns or whatever. Like they did a good job,
Speaker 1: and more people I think probably stayed home and watch
Speaker 1: bird Box than went to see Mary Poppins. Well. I
Speaker 1: could also see that the argument of these things being
Speaker 1: real is that if you join Twitter and are a
Speaker 1: teenager and you have no followers, like you're going to
Speaker 1: hop on the train of the thing that is being
Speaker 1: hashed just which gained some traction, so that kind of
Speaker 1: makes sense. And also, I mean clearly like the responses
Speaker 1: of like no, I'm real, I'm real, Deen like, okay,
Speaker 1: like robots, but it's my first you know thought when
Speaker 1: Emily brought this up as you know, like an astroids
Speaker 1: orping thing. But I was like, but why because also Netflix,
Speaker 1: you know, band or Snatch has been trending a lot,
Speaker 1: and I was like, but why would they need to
Speaker 1: do that with Black Mirror. I mean, Black Mirror is
Speaker 1: talked about a lot. I don't know to do it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like this came up in the max
Speaker 1: Read article, the idea that like all of the trending
Speaker 1: tags are just like fake and paid for for the
Speaker 1: most part, and I'm like, yeah, that checks out. That
Speaker 1: means like, well, it's all just like a con game
Speaker 1: on top of a con game, Like it's just like
Speaker 1: a house of cards of like people saying, oh that
Speaker 1: looks legit, Like I've seen so many kids talking about
Speaker 1: bird box. So Netflix must really know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: People will agree to have their property or their their
Speaker 1: work or something on on Netflix, for example. So the
Speaker 1: other thing is that that Netflix. I think it was
Speaker 1: that day that all this sort of started to happen
Speaker 1: and or maybe it was a day after but um.
Speaker 1: Netflix then tweeted out something on their official account saying
Speaker 1: that UM bird Box was officially like the most watched
Speaker 1: film a Netflix original release. They had been watched UM
Speaker 1: on some something like forty five million accounts or something.
Speaker 1: Don't also not release their don't release their metrics except
Speaker 1: every once in a while they'll be like, this was
Speaker 1: a record breaker for us, and it's like, how were we?
Speaker 1: Like it would even be specious if it was you know,
Speaker 1: like they released it a monthly report or something, but
Speaker 1: but they don't even do that. So that Black mirrors
Speaker 1: that Netflix now UM and this episode in particular Bandersnatch
Speaker 1: was is like a standalone movie, interactive kind of hypertext thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: it felt like it was about Netflix. Could you also
Speaker 1: feel that way? I did not do it. I I
Speaker 1: there's something so do some Black Mirror. Yeah, I will
Speaker 1: do it eventually, but I do feel less and less
Speaker 1: like immediate. Gotta watch it about Black Mirror. You should
Speaker 1: watch this in terms of it being about Netflix, because
Speaker 1: it's about like a creator making something for like a
Speaker 1: shadowy company that they're just like, just take the money
Speaker 1: and make the thing. Don't question why it's happening or
Speaker 1: like how this happens. I love Black Mirror, so it
Speaker 1: did feel kind of like a subversive thing to me, especially.
Speaker 1: I mean, it probably wouldn't have, but then by the
Speaker 1: time I watched it, I was thinking so much about
Speaker 1: the astros, the astros because it like it makes you
Speaker 1: question the nature of reality. It's more that I just
Speaker 1: totally didn't think of it until someone else pointed it out,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, wow, I'm really still so
Speaker 1: naive about what you say. You got red pilled, I
Speaker 1: got we invent like a new one, like purple pilled
Speaker 1: by it, I got perp I think. But I think
Speaker 1: the thing that's makes me feel like a tin hat
Speaker 1: crazy person about this stuff is that, you know, after
Speaker 1: the person who who got that viral treat about you
Speaker 1: know that I think these accounts are fake and and
Speaker 1: brought up like recorded themselves going back and looking at
Speaker 1: this one person's account and seeing that they had three
Speaker 1: followers or whatever, and then they rescinded this. But I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking, like, Okay, yeah, there are probably plenty of
Speaker 1: teens who are actually doing bird box memes because, like
Speaker 1: you said, like hot thing, so I think there are
Speaker 1: plenty of real bird box memes, but I do not
Speaker 1: at all. And like this is also from I spent
Speaker 1: way too much time that morning looking up all these
Speaker 1: accounts and did find somewhere. It's just like this person
Speaker 1: joined this month. All they do is like content about
Speaker 1: like the found out that like Tide invented the tide
Speaker 1: POD's Mealy Big Tide to get Tide trending. Well, what's
Speaker 1: kind of weird about this stuff too, is that the
Speaker 1: companies that are making the products that I really are
Speaker 1: and the content that I really enjoy the most are
Speaker 1: also the companies with it seems the least ethics, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's hard because it's like I don't need to
Speaker 1: have anyone tell me to watch Black Mirror. I last
Speaker 1: year when we started the podcast, I had like an
Speaker 1: eye problem that I've talked about and the old The
Speaker 1: first thought I had was like, but there's Black Mirror,
Speaker 1: And like I'm gonna how am I gonna watch Black Mirror?
Speaker 1: You know, like they watched it with your worm eye.
Speaker 1: I watched it with my horror. I waited until I
Speaker 1: could open my one eye enough, but I was to
Speaker 1: watch it. So like yeah, Okay, so there could be
Speaker 1: real people making these accounts, but I think that the seeding.
Speaker 1: I think the seating is you don't have to be
Speaker 1: thinking like a conspirator conspirator to to imagine that, because
Speaker 1: I mean, people did that before it was called astroturfing.
Speaker 1: Like I used to make fake memes about the Housewives
Speaker 1: for my shitty job, where I just made like where
Speaker 1: I was like a social media manager for like a
Speaker 1: fan site for Bravo shows. Like I just say, like,
Speaker 1: don't question just crazy fans of bird Box or just
Speaker 1: making these things because they love it. How dare you
Speaker 1: question the ethics of a giant company making these things
Speaker 1: they want you to consume. Yeah, it's like, can't we
Speaker 1: just let people have fun or something? But it's just
Speaker 1: I mean, after a while, the argument becomes moot because
Speaker 1: there are then enough people actually doing the thing that
Speaker 1: they were led to believe was a thing to do,
Speaker 1: possibly by you know, astroturfing or some other means that
Speaker 1: then it just becomes like the phenomenon becomes real. It's
Speaker 1: no longer synthetic, but it was why they do it.
Speaker 1: Clearly it works, Yeah, And I don't know, it just
Speaker 1: makes me feel insane. Well, I was going to say, like,
Speaker 1: I feel like one of the things we always talked
Speaker 1: about on this podcast, even maybe many years ago, was
Speaker 1: the idea that like your phones are listening to you,
Speaker 1: which was totally not mainstream at the time, and like
Speaker 1: we had a lot of friends who worked in those
Speaker 1: industries who would be like, no, they wouldn't do that,
Speaker 1: and it's like, why wouldn't they, And now we all
Speaker 1: know that they do, and it's like unquestioned, And I
Speaker 1: still feel like I see people all the time saying,
Speaker 1: like people who are like tech reporters and writers saying
Speaker 1: that this can't be real. But I'm just it's like
Speaker 1: an Okhams Razor thing. If you I think it was
Speaker 1: Dave Hill or something who tweeted about I think it
Speaker 1: was talking about aliveuette cheese and then it's showing up
Speaker 1: on his Instagram, and like, like the Okhams Razor of
Speaker 1: that is not like all things, Yeah, oh you like
Speaker 1: cats and you like stripy socks, so therefore you're like
Speaker 1: allouette cheese. No, the like easiest thing to to assume
Speaker 1: is that like, yes, you have a microphone on your phone, right,
Speaker 1: because then people would have to think about not having
Speaker 1: their phones on them all the time, and everybody has
Speaker 1: just like it within a decade normalized that. I mean
Speaker 1: also just the thing about Facebook reading private messages, where
Speaker 1: it's like that would never have even occurred to me.
Speaker 1: You know that that was going on, and you know
Speaker 1: that that Facebook is like going you guys aren't on
Speaker 1: Facebook anymore, this is the thing. But the thing when
Speaker 1: they made everybody download that for your phone and you
Speaker 1: couldn't access your messages on Facebook unless you had the
Speaker 1: Messenger app, my spider sense went off immediately. I never
Speaker 1: downloaded the messages out because I was like, why are
Speaker 1: they having us do this? And I kind of laid
Speaker 1: off of using WhatsApp to when they bought it, because
Speaker 1: I mean I had been using that to talk to
Speaker 1: people like overseas and I was like, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to have substantive conversation anymore. Like, well, I I was
Speaker 1: on Facebook and um, a friend of mine posted about
Speaker 1: like a voice over casting call for a particular learn
Speaker 1: model of a particular brand of car, and it was
Speaker 1: just on Facebook, and I liked it. And then I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I still have the microphone from when
Speaker 1: we did the podcast in the garage like I'll record it,
Speaker 1: I record it, I send it. I hadn't googled the
Speaker 1: model of car. I had not like you know, typed
Speaker 1: it out nothing. Five minutes later I got to target
Speaker 1: it at for the particular model of car, which I
Speaker 1: had never in my life, sir. And it's like obviously
Speaker 1: this is going on, and then you almost feel like
Speaker 1: gas lit because you're like, I'm going I have to
Speaker 1: continue because yeah, Like remember there's that picture of Zuckerberg
Speaker 1: where it was like his camera was taped over and
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, because he knows, he knows, he knows,
Speaker 1: And they've all been lying the whole time, being like
Speaker 1: we don't know who can say. But I honestly don't
Speaker 1: understand how anybody's I'm sorry tests. I don't know how
Speaker 1: people are still on Facebook now, like like they call yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. They own their own Instagram, like yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're on the interior the same thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Jonesy was talking about how we're all robots now and
Speaker 1: somebody was like, I'm not a robot, and he was like, well,
Speaker 1: what's the first thing you do when you like and
Speaker 1: what's the last thing you do? At night and they
Speaker 1: were like, look at me, phone, didn't wasn't there something? Phone?
Speaker 1: Look at me phone? Because I'm a robot calling me
Speaker 1: birds bird boxes? Um, look you made an organic bird box.
Speaker 1: Time see a good one today by Dan da Dario.
Speaker 1: He made an art pop bird box meme. Nice, your
Speaker 1: your bird box could be anything exactly, just like once
Speaker 1: a word, it's a funny word. It's really bandersnatch is
Speaker 1: also a funny word. Vander snatch wins for me. There's
Speaker 1: no way that bandersnatch is not a pornographic slang word.
Speaker 1: There's just no way. Just to Lewis carrollsm that's in
Speaker 1: which is where we are right now, because I almost
Speaker 1: you look at the word bandersnatch and there's only true.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why he picked it. Takes it one step
Speaker 1: further though, to feeling like like a black mirror like
Speaker 1: so many detractors have been saying for years, in which
Speaker 1: I try to ignore. Is like the radio head of
Speaker 1: TV shows. Yeah, and yet even though it's based on
Speaker 1: a thing from Alice in Wonderland and it's Alice in
Speaker 1: Wonderland themed, it's very good. Um, I'm enjoyed. Try it. Oh,
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Speaker 1: That's really weird specific name. Wait, okay, finishing the email. Second,
Speaker 1: I live in Joshua Tree and although I have yet
Speaker 1: to encounter any mention of Joshua Tree on the pod,
Speaker 1: have you guys explored any of the mystery of the
Speaker 1: High Days Once you get past the l A hipster invasion,
Speaker 1: it's something of a hotbed of here of mystery UFOs MR.
Speaker 1: There's crime, meth and probably ghosts would love to hear
Speaker 1: more on the topic. Happy night Calls. So, Molly, didn't
Speaker 1: you just go to Joshua Yeah, I just went to
Speaker 1: Joshua Tree. Actually went to twenty nine Palms, which is
Speaker 1: next door. But um, I had not been to the
Speaker 1: High Desert since I was a kid when we went
Speaker 1: on family trips there. It is great. It is super weird,
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Definitely a place you might see some aliens. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: just being able to see the night sky is crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very clear out there. Kind of makes you be like, oh,
Speaker 1: we invented light pollution to stop us from looking at
Speaker 1: this because it's so overwhelming and cool. Didn't somebody send
Speaker 1: us something else about an index of of where where
Speaker 1: like dark spots, Yeah, dark sky, dark sky places. It's
Speaker 1: it's a thing about like encouraging more places to have
Speaker 1: less lighting so that you can see the actual night sky.
Speaker 1: But again, when you do see it, you're like, it
Speaker 1: makes you very feel very small in a way. That
Speaker 1: is great. Yeah, it has that weird overlap of hippies
Speaker 1: and preppers and alien people. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: the most famous Joshua Tree thing that's probably like falls
Speaker 1: in that realm is the integratron just like which I've
Speaker 1: still never actually been in, tried to go like so
Speaker 1: many times, and what is the integratron? Is like an
Speaker 1: outsider art thing that somebody made that is like a
Speaker 1: sound bath inside. It's like there's no metal in the
Speaker 1: construction of It's like a dome, but it's all wood,
Speaker 1: so it like supposedly resonates really like I think it
Speaker 1: was tuned to the frequencies of Venus or something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but you like book. I think the
Speaker 1: hour a couple of hours? Yeah, is it like bent?
Speaker 1: Like how do they make without nails? Hold on, it's
Speaker 1: a dome. It's a dome, yeah, but how do they
Speaker 1: like a hippie dome? How's it put? I think they
Speaker 1: did get the plans from Venus. That's what I'm recalling now,
Speaker 1: the ancient aliens looking up how they built this thing
Speaker 1: because I think you like you, you get the wood
Speaker 1: wet and then you can then shape it, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you kind of weave it. It's like how they
Speaker 1: make a boat is going to be all about building
Speaker 1: your own dwellings, um whole earth calores in Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I enjoy hanging around the outside of the integratron,
Speaker 1: which I've done many times because I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: can't go in, but I just like watch people hanging
Speaker 1: around called the integratron, which is how we feel about it,
Speaker 1: which is people say, you like get nauseous, Like some
Speaker 1: people got nauseous because the sound is so intense inside
Speaker 1: of it because they like do um bowls like those
Speaker 1: sort of look it's like bird box with your ears,
Speaker 1: it is it sounds bad. Don't listen, don't drown in
Speaker 1: the sound bad. I want to know, Like what the
Speaker 1: chicken and egg thing though, is about um aliens and
Speaker 1: paranormal stuff and peppers and stuff and the desert. It's
Speaker 1: the desert. I mean, I think that the solitude certainly
Speaker 1: helps and like having so I can't go to the desert.
Speaker 1: We've talked about this before. In the plod out of
Speaker 1: the desert, I had to go to the desert um.
Speaker 1: I went to Indian Wells, which is pretty close to
Speaker 1: Joshua Tree, and it was like a multi family thing
Speaker 1: that I could not talk my way out of despite
Speaker 1: really trying to talk my way out of it. It
Speaker 1: was a broad expanse. It was I think in late
Speaker 1: June it was a hundred and twenty degrees so f
Speaker 1: y I it was. It was like a record breaking
Speaker 1: summer heat wave thing. And then I put my hand
Speaker 1: on the car window as we were driving through, you know,
Speaker 1: basically like approaching Palm Springs. It was too hot to
Speaker 1: touch um. And then he got there and we stayed.
Speaker 1: They're all of these like weird kind of like affordable
Speaker 1: RESORTI type things with like multiple pools and water slides
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, Palm Springs. I like understand the appeal
Speaker 1: of it, but it is not for me. It's just
Speaker 1: odd because I'm not like a sun person. So I
Speaker 1: like bake all day in the sun, in the hot,
Speaker 1: hot sun, because I feel I don't though inside, like
Speaker 1: what's the fun? Why why are you staying inside? It's
Speaker 1: when you go outside at night and it's still warm
Speaker 1: and the stars. You can see all the stars and
Speaker 1: you can like walk around in a bathing suit at
Speaker 1: night and like get dry and two seconds out of
Speaker 1: getting out of a pool. Okay. But when we went,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it'll cool off at night and
Speaker 1: then I'll go walk around because all day I was
Speaker 1: like I'm not going out, and I did. But then
Speaker 1: i'd be like at night, it was a hundred and
Speaker 1: twelve pm. I took like a shot of my weather
Speaker 1: app because I was like, I cannot believe this. And
Speaker 1: I went outside and was just like sitting there sweating
Speaker 1: and it was like so dark. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I see why people do this, but I'm just afraid
Speaker 1: of my own dark mental speaking. Hot it's not what
Speaker 1: I want generally, the winter desert. I will say it
Speaker 1: was amazing. Yeah, well you went in like hot springs
Speaker 1: and stuff. Yeah, yeah, my friend. My friend picked a
Speaker 1: place with a hot spring, and then we passed a
Speaker 1: place that was called Old Woman Hot Springs Road. But
Speaker 1: I look, I think I'm familiar with Old Women. Total
Speaker 1: potential night called Commune. It was like a resort. Somebody
Speaker 1: bought it and turned it into a resort, but it
Speaker 1: hasn't been open since the eighties or something. Somebody owns it.
Speaker 1: It's just like a weird abandoned hot springs resort. And
Speaker 1: that's where you went. You went to Old Women, we
Speaker 1: went to We just passed by. You can't go there
Speaker 1: unless it's like on a special tour because it's not
Speaker 1: open to the public, which again I think there's like
Speaker 1: there's like abandoned things in the desert. Military basis is
Speaker 1: part of what adds to the UFO stuff and the weirdness.
Speaker 1: I think that's the real core of the weirdness is
Speaker 1: the abandoned military basis. Well. Another interesting thing about Joshua Tree,
Speaker 1: I think like even more so than Palm the Palm
Speaker 1: Desert is the amount of kind of like uncool resorts
Speaker 1: and places to go. There are like, like there are
Speaker 1: so many ads for just like seniors only. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like not even the kitschy cool kind. It's like
Speaker 1: kind of like the Poconos or something out here like um.
Speaker 1: It also reminds me of um three Women the Altman,
Speaker 1: Like it's totally that vibe. I was saying to like,
Speaker 1: people moving to the desert is like the moving up
Speaker 1: state in New York. You know, people are like, I
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. I'm moving to the desert. Um.
Speaker 1: But I was treating about moving to the desert, and
Speaker 1: then a friend of the pod Alana May Johnson, informed
Speaker 1: me it will be uninhabitable soon because of global warming.
Speaker 1: Because when he was twenty, I was like, at what
Speaker 1: point are people going to be going for vacations in
Speaker 1: the desert and then they're just going to die. Well,
Speaker 1: people do die in the desert, which is another reason
Speaker 1: why it's scary. Like death Valley is legitimately like my
Speaker 1: parents and my aunt and uncle once when on a
Speaker 1: hike there where they got lost and then told me
Speaker 1: about it like weeks later, like, oh, yeah, we totally
Speaker 1: got lost into it was so hot ha ha, glad
Speaker 1: we were alive, And I was like, don't do that, No, guys.
Speaker 1: I'd be really interested though in hearing if there are
Speaker 1: more night colors who live in the desert. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's such a divide. Like if I had if
Speaker 1: I were in my home in the desert, I don't
Speaker 1: think it would have the same effect. I think it's
Speaker 1: leaving the place where you live and then going to
Speaker 1: a place that feels inhospitable and having that, you know,
Speaker 1: for me it feels inhospitable. Not for everybody. Some people
Speaker 1: love the desert obviously, but like, I'm very interested in
Speaker 1: what the like vibe as a resident. Well, that I
Speaker 1: think is a whole other thing, because you know, it
Speaker 1: definitely is a tourism place for like l A people,
Speaker 1: but yeah, townys and life first there. I'm sure have
Speaker 1: different opinions. I stayed at my friend's grandfather's house. He
Speaker 1: lived in Palm Springs, and he was at the time,
Speaker 1: like in his late eighties, and that was some like
Speaker 1: you just I just got a real good peek into that, right. Well,
Speaker 1: that's also like when you go somewhere and you stay
Speaker 1: in like a real place versus going on like a vacation.
Speaker 1: You know, when you go somewhere and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what it would be like to live in
Speaker 1: this place. Yeah, give us your calls about the high desert,
Speaker 1: the low desert, the in between a dessert, food desert,
Speaker 1: any desert at all, and dessert, the food, dessert, food, dessert.
Speaker 1: I would I would actually really welcome more food dessert calls.
Speaker 1: I was looking. There was a peppermint high hat cake.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I digress, guys, there was a peppermint high
Speaker 1: hat cake on Instagram. That peppermin You say that like
Speaker 1: it's a thing that we're all familiar. Now, I was
Speaker 1: baiting you for you to ask me that question. It
Speaker 1: is a chocolate cake and then the frosting is which
Speaker 1: I I don't really like frosting that much. But there
Speaker 1: is like twice as much frosting as cake, but the
Speaker 1: frosting is marshmallow, so it's like puffy, and then you
Speaker 1: coat the whole thing in milk chocolate. So it's like
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this cake for two It's like
Speaker 1: a giant like Malla. It's a giant lamar looking thing,
Speaker 1: but it's but I don't care for the base of
Speaker 1: the mouth, like a snowball cake. Yeah, it's like a
Speaker 1: snowball cake. It looked really good. If you want to
Speaker 1: look up the Peppermin high Hat cake, I'm sure you'll
Speaker 1: find the exact one that I was talking about. Tell
Speaker 1: us about regional cakes, it's something we always as we
Speaker 1: all know, Boston cream pie is the not a pie,
Speaker 1: but it's a cake. But it's so good and it's
Speaker 1: cream pie. I don't know it. It's two layers of
Speaker 1: vanilla cake with vanilla custard in between, covered with chocolate canash,
Speaker 1: and it's the best dessert. There's no other. Did you
Speaker 1: know what? Everyone knows Boston cream It's like one of
Speaker 1: the most basic, like like Deli case pie type things.
Speaker 1: It's so good. I can't think. It's usually right next
Speaker 1: to the coconut cream pie. Hey, what's up. I'm a
Speaker 1: longtime listener, first time caller. I was curious what is
Speaker 1: the Chile industry like in and around Roswell? And do
Speaker 1: Aliens prefer red or green chili? Or do they go
Speaker 1: for Christmas? Thanks? Wow, that call came from dalton a
Speaker 1: k A sushi Jesus. Thanks interesting food for thought. Um,
Speaker 1: So we're we in the middle of our conversation about
Speaker 1: the desert slash high desert. Of course, must discuss the
Speaker 1: desert when it comes to aliens and the para normal
Speaker 1: um New Mexico and Roswell specifically. Have you guys been
Speaker 1: to Roswell before ever? Never know, but I've been to
Speaker 1: Truth or Consequences. I've been to Santa Fe and Albuquerque,
Speaker 1: but I haven't been to And I spent like a
Speaker 1: few days in Santa Fe and I loved it and
Speaker 1: it had a lot of that kind of ib also
Speaker 1: of like I don't know I think I got did
Speaker 1: I get you guys, um alien hot sauce from from
Speaker 1: Santa Fe? I I just remember like a lot of
Speaker 1: hot sauces, a lot of green red chilies. I think
Speaker 1: it was green at the time. We're the ones that
Speaker 1: were everywhere and a lot of um alien memorabilia, and
Speaker 1: I really liked the combination of all of those things.
Speaker 1: I would totally we should. I would totally do a
Speaker 1: tour stop of Night Call in in Santa Fe because
Speaker 1: I loved it. Yeah, I went there a couple of
Speaker 1: summers ago and also had a great time. It didn't
Speaker 1: it rain while you were there. It rained while I
Speaker 1: was at like an ancient publo site, and that was
Speaker 1: like the perfect spiritual Probably sold me on it because
Speaker 1: she was like, see it's raining, it's raining in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't you like put your arms out like in
Speaker 1: Jesus pose and open your mouth and be bathed by nature.
Speaker 1: We went to like an ancient, ancient place, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean that's also it is. You're like, there's ancient
Speaker 1: stuff here. There's like extremely like pre European culture colonizing
Speaker 1: stuff here just everywhere, and it's you know, federal land,
Speaker 1: so you can go there and it's beautiful. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was like we looked over the Rio Grand and
Speaker 1: there was like a crazy storm came in and just
Speaker 1: h yeah. Just nature is amazing. It makes you feel
Speaker 1: very again, very small in a way where you're like
Speaker 1: something is in charge, and that also makes you think
Speaker 1: of aliens because you're like something, You're just like other
Speaker 1: things are happening all the time that have nothing to
Speaker 1: do with me, which I love. So they're bringing back
Speaker 1: I mean bringing back in quotes roswell Um on the
Speaker 1: c w Oh now it's called Roswell New Mexico, but
Speaker 1: I think we all remember the w B show from
Speaker 1: the late nineties that was just called Roswell. And it
Speaker 1: feels like the nostalgia wheel is turning and we're back
Speaker 1: to being into aliens in the same way that we
Speaker 1: were in the nineties, but now it kind of can
Speaker 1: take on a different shape and after vampires comes aliens. Right,
Speaker 1: what are where does zombies fit? Zombies are in love
Speaker 1: with zombies? I mean, there are a couple of like
Speaker 1: zombie teen romance movies that are kind of jokey, but
Speaker 1: I think in general, there's more longevity to like falling
Speaker 1: into yeah, falling in love with an alien or falling
Speaker 1: in love with a werewolf for a vampire a werewolf
Speaker 1: thing never really well, I guess teen wolf. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: people all open myself up. Zombies are like their bodies
Speaker 1: are falling apart. You know some people are into that.
Speaker 1: Most could like Sugar Daddy in the End, All of
Speaker 1: Our Bodies Sugar Daddy, Zombie Sugar amazing. Um the seat
Speaker 1: all but use Roswald New Mexico is interesting. It's more
Speaker 1: of a reimagining of you know, it's kind of closer
Speaker 1: to the book and not not really it's not a reboot.
Speaker 1: So what's really interesting about it is that it kind
Speaker 1: of places um the story, which is about Liz or Teco.
Speaker 1: She's a scientist and she ends up coming home to Roswell,
Speaker 1: New Mexico following the death of her sister, which um,
Speaker 1: because you know, there's more on that to follow, and
Speaker 1: then she ends up reconnecting with her friend from high school, Max,
Speaker 1: and something's off about Max. Guys, doesn't take us long
Speaker 1: to figure out that, and his siblings and his siblings
Speaker 1: Max's family is uh not not earthly, not of this world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's based on um this book series called Roswell
Speaker 1: High School Roswell Highwell hi yeah, um, but the new
Speaker 1: one is definitely more faithful in some ways to the
Speaker 1: original books than the w B show was. Uh specifically
Speaker 1: like more with the characters and uh and just kind
Speaker 1: of the overall you read some of the books also, right,
Speaker 1: I didn't the books? Are you were reading about the
Speaker 1: books and you know I was reading about Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you discovered that in the original books the character of
Speaker 1: Liz Tina and that they whitewashed it for the original show. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so that was I was in the current uh Razmo
Speaker 1: in New Mexico the news show. Um also slight spoiler,
Speaker 1: but I think it definitely deals with the idea of
Speaker 1: aliens and extraterrestrials in a more kind of topical political way. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, also being set in New Mexico somewhat
Speaker 1: near a border, you can kind of see how that
Speaker 1: stuff might all come into to play. And um, in
Speaker 1: the in the original books, Liz had been Latina and
Speaker 1: now she's Latina again. Uh, that's definitely her. Her love
Speaker 1: interest is now a cop. So you know, there's like
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that you can kind of play
Speaker 1: with as far as thinking about like what aliens might
Speaker 1: mean to audiences, especially like teen audiences or like young
Speaker 1: young adult audiences today, Like what you kind of kind
Speaker 1: of import or meeting you kind of assigned to that
Speaker 1: also shout out to the fake conspiracy podcast on that show,
Speaker 1: which was my light for me because I think that
Speaker 1: that's like the other interesting thing about the desert we've
Speaker 1: talked so much about, like Coast to coast is when
Speaker 1: you're thinking about aliens a lot, which you know, sometimes
Speaker 1: we are sometimes not. But it's like the way that
Speaker 1: that kind of like curiosity and wonder turns into paranoia
Speaker 1: is an interesting descent I think to think about, and
Speaker 1: and especially you know, yeah, and especially in the context
Speaker 1: of like, you know, imagining what it's like to be
Speaker 1: in the kind of community that's like, you know, dealing
Speaker 1: with paranoia earth based paranoia and supernatural paranoia. Um. But
Speaker 1: I was really happy that that was included because that's
Speaker 1: I'm too close to life, man, so to throw it
Speaker 1: in there always needs to be a guy with headphones
Speaker 1: and a microphone. That's us where the the chaotic good
Speaker 1: shout out. Shout out to Courtly for featuring us on
Speaker 1: the list. Oh yeah, by the way, I'm saying that
Speaker 1: we were back in Weirder than Ever whist compliments like,
Speaker 1: it's true, we are weirder than I know, but the
Speaker 1: world is younger than ever. It's true we are the
Speaker 1: lone gunmen. The lone gun people. Yeah, exactly what I think.
Speaker 1: What's like, really, one of the things that's really great
Speaker 1: about the c WS version of this is that it's
Speaker 1: very timely, and I kind of think it's like more
Speaker 1: interesting to see these characters as adults and and to
Speaker 1: you know, have like this history of this person who
Speaker 1: has been living in Roswell and is an alien, but
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a revelation as an adult, but
Speaker 1: he's known, you know, Liz for a long long time,
Speaker 1: so it's like keeping the secret. It kind of has
Speaker 1: a little more gravity of them being adults, and there's
Speaker 1: sort of more that the story can do with them
Speaker 1: being adults, and especially is being like a practicing scientific genius,
Speaker 1: you know that definitely. I mean I was watching the
Speaker 1: original show and like, you know, the most they can
Speaker 1: do is like studies themselves in their science lab class.
Speaker 1: But you know, when you have adult characters, and like
Speaker 1: there's also a doctor that she also knows from high
Speaker 1: school who's sort of like trying to investigate the aliens,
Speaker 1: and there's there's kind of more possibilities for the show.
Speaker 1: And of course everybody is very good looking because it's
Speaker 1: a c W show, so that but in that. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're there's the like, you know, it's not subtle, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't really have to be that. You know, Liz
Speaker 1: is the child of undocumented immigrants, and she comes in
Speaker 1: like it kind of opens up where she's stopped at
Speaker 1: the border and questioned, and you know, the first scene
Speaker 1: is like an ice detention scene, which is like it
Speaker 1: really shows you where the show is going to go
Speaker 1: from the get go. And I liked that they were
Speaker 1: kind of just so upfront about it because I felt
Speaker 1: as though, you know, rather than kind of like stringing
Speaker 1: you along and having it you know, it's just to
Speaker 1: like put it out there and and have it be
Speaker 1: like this crisis that's also is very you know, true
Speaker 1: and relatable right now. Um, and it's like it's not
Speaker 1: just a metaphor exactly. Yeah, you have the people who
Speaker 1: are like the conspiracy theorists but are also like the
Speaker 1: aliens in quotes are going to take our jobs, which
Speaker 1: is like literally what the past guy says. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's super interesting and I really definitely
Speaker 1: it's I find it really weird that the you know,
Speaker 1: previous show whitewashed Liz when like why it's like the
Speaker 1: present catching up with the original exactly. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: there's so much more you can talk about then, like
Speaker 1: you know, the stuff that her family is going through
Speaker 1: mirrors what the aliens are going there. It's just like
Speaker 1: it makes so much sense. And that was originally from
Speaker 1: the book. So I'm glad that they brought that stuff
Speaker 1: back because I also love when people, you know, take
Speaker 1: a show of you know, doing something like kind of
Speaker 1: bringing in like the like really most horrible things that
Speaker 1: we're dealing with right now and just kind of talk
Speaker 1: about them. It's nice and like riff on them. And
Speaker 1: especially with with with genre stuff. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that we like a nightcall. We love sci fi and
Speaker 1: Twilight Zone type stuff because it's a way to talk
Speaker 1: about serious things, you know, kind of in a in
Speaker 1: a more flexible and kind of fun way and you know,
Speaker 1: really blow out some ideas and there's definitely that feeling
Speaker 1: to it. Like I mean, it's obviously it's like a
Speaker 1: prime time soap on the c W and it has
Speaker 1: you know, all of the fun of that, but also
Speaker 1: is you know, addressing a lot of actual contemporary issues
Speaker 1: in not a preachy way and like kind of a
Speaker 1: fun genre you way, so yes, exactly, totally. Yeah, but yeah, well,
Speaker 1: did you guys have any favorite alien or paranormal related
Speaker 1: things that you were into in the nineties when it
Speaker 1: was when it was all the rage. I mean I
Speaker 1: loved Independent Stay, Yes, I loved Independence Day. I'm very
Speaker 1: much identified with like the stripper who just goes to
Speaker 1: the roof with her friend from the strip club, who
Speaker 1: just goes to the roof to stand on the roof
Speaker 1: with the other people in l a and be like,
Speaker 1: yeay aliens, Yeah, yeah, I think right now, especially like
Speaker 1: people would love for the aliens to come because things
Speaker 1: are bad on Earth and it would like make sense
Speaker 1: in a way. I mean, I don't know why anyone
Speaker 1: would visit Earth now, Like it just seems like why not,
Speaker 1: Like you had all this time when things were going
Speaker 1: pretty well, but if the aliens came down, wouldn't you
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, okay. That's kind of why I
Speaker 1: like rivals so much. It felt like a like an interesting,
Speaker 1: like different angle on why aliens might come here, that
Speaker 1: they could be benevolent or like just sort of you know,
Speaker 1: truly altruistic beings that don't think with their egos the
Speaker 1: way that human beings do, so we can't even necessarily
Speaker 1: analyze the like anything that way the aliens might come,
Speaker 1: but like we won't even we can't comprehend. We were
Speaker 1: also talking about because there wasn't an article in Life
Speaker 1: science about how the Drake equation which setti people search
Speaker 1: for extratrustrial intelligence if you don't know how you know,
Speaker 1: uh that that that's sort of been the equation that
Speaker 1: kind of like like philosophical way of thinking about the
Speaker 1: odds of of alien life being something and the odds
Speaker 1: not only are there being an intelligent civilization somewhere in
Speaker 1: the universe, but also the odds of us coming in
Speaker 1: contact with it. And I think, like nobody knows what
Speaker 1: the actual you know, number or some of the Drake
Speaker 1: equation is, but it's obviously like meant to kind of
Speaker 1: communicate the fact that the chances are slim. So I think,
Speaker 1: like the idea of an alien coming to Earth and
Speaker 1: or interacting with high schoolers and we're falling in love,
Speaker 1: it's like such a kind it's almost like it's almost
Speaker 1: like a religious experience because it feels so like the
Speaker 1: odds are so uh small or something, or it takes
Speaker 1: so much faith to even like idealize something like that. Well,
Speaker 1: I read so this article in Life Science was by
Speaker 1: um an astrophysicist named Paul Sutter, and I thought it
Speaker 1: kind of breaks your brain. The Drake equation. He was
Speaker 1: basically saying that it's useless because you can figure out
Speaker 1: the you know, percent chance of all of these different variables,
Speaker 1: like is their life in the galaxy on what planet?
Speaker 1: Like will it be intelligent life? But if you're missing
Speaker 1: any category, like if you don't have, you know, any
Speaker 1: kind of idea of whether something is possible in one category,
Speaker 1: then it nullifies the entire result, basically because there's so
Speaker 1: many variable variables. So I think, what's like interesting about
Speaker 1: the idea of, you know, kind of imagining what would
Speaker 1: happen if aliens came to Earth is that it's either
Speaker 1: probably it's like you have no there's no way of
Speaker 1: figuring out if it's probable improbable, or what it would
Speaker 1: look like no matter how much you know about it,
Speaker 1: until you figure it out, so you can take you know,
Speaker 1: you can have something like arrival where And that's to
Speaker 1: me like seems that the most like but like also
Speaker 1: in some ways the least fun because because you know,
Speaker 1: you don't get to have adventures with the piece for
Speaker 1: you gonna be a little weird spore and a rock, yeah,
Speaker 1: the spears. I mean it's fun to think about in
Speaker 1: a way, but then it's it's hard to really make
Speaker 1: a storyline out of that. I mean story I like
Speaker 1: all the storylines where they're just like the humans are
Speaker 1: exterminated immediately, and then it's just like what happens after
Speaker 1: that when there are no humans? Like that's how I
Speaker 1: think about it. I'm like, we shouldn't get to go
Speaker 1: to other planets and like the that way, we'll leave
Speaker 1: a decent planet. If anyone else finds it later, it's
Speaker 1: too late, man. But I feel like humans think and
Speaker 1: then we'll be gone and it will go back to
Speaker 1: nature so fast. Right. But I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that's fun about the New Roswell New Mexico is
Speaker 1: that it's the idea that, like, there's a person who's
Speaker 1: an alien. I like that idea because, um, I have
Speaker 1: a family friend who you know, he's never heard of
Speaker 1: like all of these things that everyone's like, he's there's
Speaker 1: just a little slight difference, and it's fun to be like,
Speaker 1: see an alien is he and like reason noble people,
Speaker 1: you can kind of keep the conversation rightly because it's like,
Speaker 1: but that long Mork and Mindy kept up, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Morgan Mindy was Honestly, I don't think I
Speaker 1: could rewatch Mork and Mindy. But at the time, I
Speaker 1: was like, I talked about this one once on Twitter
Speaker 1: with Emily Nuspam, who was also apparently a Mork and
Speaker 1: Mindy super fan to the extent that she wore rainbow
Speaker 1: suspenders to school to really yeah, because I was just like,
Speaker 1: because Mork and Mindy was a Happy Day spin off,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've talked about this before and I
Speaker 1: was just like, isn't that weird that it was a
Speaker 1: Happy Day spin off and also that the idea of
Speaker 1: the show about just a woman with an alien boyfriend,
Speaker 1: it was so popular for so long, but now it
Speaker 1: just makes sense. It's just so interesting to see what
Speaker 1: people like what you kind of superimposed the idea of
Speaker 1: aliens onto in different times, Like I feel like the
Speaker 1: idea of having an alien boyfriend feels very seventies just
Speaker 1: because of like I don't know, Avid Bowie or something
Speaker 1: who would want an alien boyfriend, or just like if
Speaker 1: you're a girl, a misunderstood girl, you're like, who would
Speaker 1: be my boyfriend? Like from another world? And that's totally
Speaker 1: what the I think the nineties Roswell felt like like
Speaker 1: to me at least, And I was kind of going
Speaker 1: back and watching some old episodes and it's very much
Speaker 1: about being weird or being an outsider and and you know,
Speaker 1: having a secret and stuff like that. Wait, can we
Speaker 1: answer the red or green chili question? Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: to answer that. What do you guys think to aliens
Speaker 1: like red chili or green chili? Or do they prefer both?
Speaker 1: Which is known as Christmas style? Oh, I like Christmas.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with green chili. I'm going to go,
Speaker 1: in particular with the Hatch chili. I I think I've
Speaker 1: expressed my opinions on Hatch Chili's before because there they
Speaker 1: pop up at this one grocery store in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: They feature them for like three months and they just
Speaker 1: stink so like I I like chili's, but you can
Speaker 1: overdo a chili And I was like, these don't belong here.
Speaker 1: Nobody buys them. I've never seen anyone because they like
Speaker 1: it's too much. You're going to a grocery store and
Speaker 1: everything has chilies in it. It just seems like weird
Speaker 1: because there's no real reason for it. Never seen anyone
Speaker 1: by these chilies from this grocery store. Is just you
Speaker 1: don't want to You think the aliens are gonna come
Speaker 1: alien plants. I think it's to entice the man. And
Speaker 1: that's why all has a specific smells. Because I was
Speaker 1: gonna say green hatch chilies, because who doesn't like green
Speaker 1: hatch chilies? But I guess this is where the diversity
Speaker 1: of opinions. I personally prefer green chili um, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Christmas style because it's the best hot take.
Speaker 1: I think the aliens, well, you know, a little of
Speaker 1: everything is always the best. Wouldn't the aliens like to
Speaker 1: experience all we have to offer? I don't know. Hard
Speaker 1: to imagine a green or gray gray bean into into
Speaker 1: chilis in general and spicy things in general. What do
Speaker 1: you think they eat like soil? And I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think they searched the galaxy for the spice, tasty flame,
Speaker 1: the spiciest bits. I think they eat corn. What if
Speaker 1: the aliens come and they're like, oh, we're here to
Speaker 1: do our diners, drives, diners, and wait tests. Are you
Speaker 1: suggesting also that there might be like the entire corn
Speaker 1: conspiracy might be to feed the aliens? When okay, I'm
Speaker 1: back on corn again. I love okay anyway, but yes,
Speaker 1: so Roswell New Mexico will be premiering January CW Tuesday
Speaker 1: at Central. This was a great episode, guys. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was fun. It was fun. Also Test is wearing one
Speaker 1: of our own merchuts. Yeah. I didn't have time to
Speaker 1: really like get Ready, and I was like, I may
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Speaker 1: out to gold Diggers Bar in Los Angeles that Molly
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Speaker 1: Last time we brought a pumpkin pie and ate it all.
Speaker 1: This time, we'll bring up Boston cream Pie. We will
Speaker 1: maybe Emily will be there though more excitingly, and I'll
Speaker 1: be debuting my my new actual DJ name SO and
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