1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We have 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: been discussing the potential on the grand jury investigation on 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: Russia collusion. Lots of you still weighing in on that. 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: We will continue to break down more on that as 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: we move forward, But there also is additional ridiculous ongoing 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: outcomes associated with the Epstein fallout, the Epstein continued investigation, 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: so I figure we should go ahead and give you 8 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: the latest on this as well. Representative James Comer has 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: subpoenaed the following people, President Bill Clinton, Secretary of State 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: Hillary former Secretary of State obviously Hillary Clinton, and others. 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Let me hit you some of these. Merrick Garland, James Comy, 12 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: Bill Barr, Alberto Gonzalez both these are both Republican and 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 2: Democrat Attorney Generals, Robert Mueller, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder. All 14 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: of these people being called for deposition through subpoena Bill 15 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: Clinton October fourteenth, Hillary Clinton October ninth, and then basically 16 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: every attorney general. It looks like nearly of the past 17 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 2: twenty years, all of them being put under oath relating 18 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: to the Epstein case. I guess the one detail that 19 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: we really haven't talked very much about we don't know 20 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: what the only person ever convicted in the Epstein case, 21 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: Julane Maxwell, told the Deputy Attorney General when she was interviewed. 22 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: We do know that they have moved her from Tallahassee 23 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: to a lower security prison in Texas. I believe that 24 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: is the latest on Epstein. I don't know what the 25 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: expectation is at this point, but they're going to put 26 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: everybody under oath and probably ask them what they knew 27 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: about Jeffrey Epstein. And that is now scheduled to be 28 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: happening in September and October on Capitol Hill. What's your 29 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: take on this buck not gonna happen, meaning no additional 30 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: charges are coming. 31 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, not gonna happen. 32 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: And should I start just saying it's gonna happen just 33 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: because people are gonna get mad at me. 34 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: Maybe it just started. 35 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: It's all gonna the justice will be done. 36 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't think that you're gonna get 37 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: these these the kind of people you're talking about, these names, Yeah, 38 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: this is It's just I don't see it. 39 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: My concern on Epstein is I feel like we are 40 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: trending towards a place where it's more likely that Julane 41 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Maxwell is pardoned and nobody ever goes to prison for 42 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: anything related to Epstein than there are other people who 43 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: are charged with crime. 44 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: What is the rationale for even a conversation about her 45 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: being pardoned? So it's a fantastic question, And I think 46 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: what the pardon would potentially entail is, Hey, we're going 47 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: to pardon you from all crimes, and then we will 48 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: bring you in and put you in front of Congress 49 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: of a committee, and you will answer every question under 50 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: the sun about Epstein. So I have a question about 51 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: that rationale, which I think you've just established what it is. 52 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: She didn't do that before she. 53 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 4: Was facing twenty five years in federal prison. 54 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: Everybody, she wasn't willing to give up the goods to 55 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: avoid going away for a few decades previously. Come on, everybody, 56 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: let's you know, let's let's let's be real on this one. 57 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: Now, all of a sudden, she's got all the stuff 58 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: and she's gonna lay it all out there. 59 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: The only now, the only one I think you agree 60 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: with me that that's the rationale for the only reason 61 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: that there would be any reason to get her a pardon. 62 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: The other one would be some people would say she 63 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: did no. 64 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: Crimes and she was the fall girl in this context, 65 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: But she was convicted by a jury after a criminal 66 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: trial of sex trafficking on behalf of Epstein. So you're 67 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: then tossing the jury's conviction out the window and saying, oh, 68 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: the jury got it wrong if you are saying that 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: she was the fall girl as it were for the 70 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: larger Epstein crimes. 71 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 4: Right. 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: So this is something buck that I think nobody ever mentions, 73 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: and I do think it's significant, and we talked about 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: it on this program, and I haven't heard anybody else 75 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: even talk about it. People say, well, what about all 76 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the victims, what about all the victims of Jeffrey Epstein? 77 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: Don't they deserve justice? All those things I think are 78 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 3: very true. 79 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: Around one hundred and twenty five or one hundred and 80 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: thirty Jeffrey Epstein alleged victims in civil court sued and 81 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: got paid almost five hundred million dollars. So it's like 82 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: the civil cases settlements no one ever mentioned. So for 83 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: people out there who say, wait, what about all these 84 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: people that were victimized by Jeffrey Epstein, they allowed all 85 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: of them to come forward tell their stories, and nearly 86 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: five hundred million dollars in settlements from Epstein's estate and 87 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: other banks that had advised him were paid out. So 88 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: I just think when you look at this larger mushroom cloud, 89 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Epstein is dead. We all agree on that. So then 90 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: what we know. I don't think there's very many people 91 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: who think Epstein still alive, although I do sometimes here 92 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: for people, you know, he's not really dead. 93 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: I don't know what. I haven't heard that, but I 94 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: heard on the internet. 95 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I you know. I Just the other thing is, 96 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: if you have Gilenn Maxwell and she's going to testify 97 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: in some way, it would just you know, what is 98 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: the process here through which she's going to say things 99 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: about people that will then be considered So is her 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: word credible enough to to indict or or destroy a person? 101 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 2: I mean, that's really what we're talking about here. And 102 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: we're going to believe that this person who has been 103 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: convicted for sex trafficking, who then is pardoned on the 104 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: idea that she's then going to tell us the whole 105 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: truth and nothing but the truth. That's a tremendous amount 106 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: of power you're giving this woman then to decide who 107 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: gets destroyed and who doesn't based on her word that 108 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: they did something, that someone did something illicit as part 109 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: of the Epstein ring. You see what I'm saying, And no, 110 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: I get it. So I just to me, we we've 111 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: looked at we went down this pathway, and there was 112 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: an opportunity for her to avoid any prison time I 113 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: would assume, or at least far substantial farce reduced from 114 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: what she got if she would just name the names. 115 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: And then there's the opportunity to go get evidence and 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: bring indictments. But what is supposed to I don't see 117 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: how this is supposed to work. That you're gonna someone's 118 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: gonna Trump is gonna pardon her. Then she's gonna come 119 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 2: forward and she's gonna say, oh, guess what, Epstein's the 120 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: only person who committed any sex crimes. And then what 121 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: I just come back And again I don't know why this. 122 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: I think probably because it's sealed, but for everybody out there, 123 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: because I do think this is the most compelling argument. 124 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: If you're out there and you're saying, hey, what about 125 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: all these people who were victims of Epstein? Did they 126 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: not deserve justice? I think that's a very They got 127 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: a lot of money, So that's part one of it. 128 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: They got five hundred million dollars. I'm assuming all of 129 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: that is sealed. 130 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: But as part of the way that they distributed the 131 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars, they had to determine why some 132 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: people were paid some amounts and others were paid lesser amounts. Right, 133 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: they didn't all get the same amount, So in theory 134 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: there was a culpability associated with that, and if there 135 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: were criminal charges that could have come. They did a 136 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: court investigation on the civil side that I would think 137 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: would be accessible and able to be reviewed, and I 138 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: can't imagine they just didn't charge people. 139 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: So the reason why I bring. 140 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: All this up is basically feels to me, you tell 141 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: me if you disagree on this buck. As we are 142 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: now in the summer of Trump two point zero, Democrats 143 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: really don't have anything to attack him on on the economy. 144 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: They don't really have anything to attack him on. On 145 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: the border. They can say, hey, Ice is you know, 146 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: taking too many people out of the country, but that 147 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: hasn't really worked. Crime is plummeting nationwide. I mean, this 148 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: is a very good thing. And so it seems like 149 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: we're just engaged in a lot of legal procedural battles 150 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: that is the resistance two point zero Epstein's part of them. 151 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: There's punches being thrown on the other side related to 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: Russia collusion. There's the ongoing battles over birthright citizenship and 153 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: what exactly are the limits of the president's powers when 154 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: it comes to tariffs. It feels to me, tell me 155 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: if you disagree, like every day when it comes to 156 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: Trump opposition, it's just some federal district court judge or 157 00:08:54,120 --> 00:09:02,479 Speaker 1: some older criminal related conspiracy examination that is largely being examined. 158 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Almost nothing is present day. Does that make sense. 159 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: It's like we're relitigating all of the controversies of the 160 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: Trump era now in real time, and much of the 161 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 2: actual work that's being done on a day to day 162 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: basis isn't really being talked or acknowledged in any kind 163 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: of substantial way. 164 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 165 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: I think part of this is because the Trump administration 166 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: has been so successful so far that they've had to 167 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 2: get very creative in the ways that they creative is 168 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: a kind way of saying it. Attack the administration. I 169 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: think also the administration stumbled here with the peat with 170 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: the public relations aspect and the transparency aspect of promising 171 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: big rep We've gone over this a million times. Okay, 172 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: already the public relations component of the full you know, 173 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: the binders, the influencers, the big stuff is coming. It's 174 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: on my desk and everything else. And then actually no 175 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: additional charges and really no additional information is going to 176 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: be released. That was That was a bait and switch, 177 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 2: and people recognize it as such. Whether I mean, do 178 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 2: you even think that these individuals are going to some 179 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 2: of them, you're gonna subpoenal Loretta Lynch? I mean, what 180 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: do you think is gonna be said by her about this? 181 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: I just I think they're all gonna Here's what I 182 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 2: would advise. I mean, I would tell them all to 183 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: take the fifth. I don't see how they gain at 184 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: all by even answering questions what I'm saying. Well, so 185 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: like Loretta Lynch, like, you're gonna do you think she's 186 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: gonna sit there and be like, you know what, I 187 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: was part of a big conspiracy to cover up the 188 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 2: Epstein stuff because of the high level democrats that were 189 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: you know, implicated in the in the sex ring. No, 190 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. So to your point, people are 191 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: now doing things to do things they're doing things to 192 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: say I'm doing a thing. What is the end result 193 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: of that thing going to be? Unless the people that 194 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: they're subpoenaing are total morons, nothing, that's what's going to happen. 195 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: Like, do you think that Bill Clinton's gonna say, under oath, 196 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: I love sleeping with fifteen year old girls that Jeffrey 197 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: Epstein provides for me. I think that's highly unlikely. Do 198 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: you think that Hillary Clinton's going to say, Hey, we 199 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: knew that there were tons of really powerful people who 200 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: had relations with Jeffrey Epstein in some way, and we 201 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: covered up all their crimes. I suspect that they will 202 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: have a written statement prepared by their four thousand dollars 203 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: an hour attorney that represents whatever they want to put 204 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: on the public record. 205 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: They will read. 206 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: It and then they will say, this is all I'm 207 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: going to say, and maybe they fight whether the subpoena 208 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: is even valid. By the way, every Attorney General, Bill Barr, 209 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: you think Bill Barr was covering up Epstein related crimes. 210 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they got every attorney general Democrat and Republican 211 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: basically of the last twenty years, and they're going to 212 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: call them in and aggressively question them on Epstein. I mean, 213 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I think Epstein was to be fair. When you're the 214 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: attorney general, there are so many cases that you are 215 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: monitoring on a day to day basis that I bet 216 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: Bill Barr spent like zero point one percent of his 217 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: time as attorney general. If that relating to anything having 218 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: to do with Epstein, that would be my guess. And 219 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: so anyway, I think the result of the miscommunication is 220 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: now that there is a flood the zone strategy where 221 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: you try to get as much information out as you 222 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: possibly can. But I just don't think there's much there there, 223 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: But I do want to. I mean, this is getting 224 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: a lot of attention today. Comer has subpoenaed all these people, 225 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: and they're all going to be brought in over the 226 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: next couple of months, and I imagine every day that 227 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: they talk, there will be in some way big stories 228 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: about the fact that they're going to talk. And then 229 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: I think that there's likely to be very little that 230 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: is actually newsworthy that comes out of their under a testimony. 231 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: That's my prediction. 232 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong, and we shall see perhaps something big breaks. 233 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: This is where I do think I never would have 234 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: believed Buck that I would go to law school and 235 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 2: basically every case that now we just talk about is well, 236 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: that depends on what the courts are going to do. 237 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: That depends on what the judges are going to do. 238 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: This is basically Trump two point zero. There is no 239 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: overarching opposition to him outside of the existing court systems. Indeed, 240 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: I want to tell you as we go to break here, 241 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: by the way, you guys are welcome to weigh in. 242 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything else out there that we 243 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: are missing. But I did want to hit both of 244 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: these big stories because again it is the DOJ Grand 245 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: jury relating to Russia collusion and the subpoenas going out 246 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: relating to Epstein are receiving massive amounts of attention out there. 247 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: But I don't know that there's some huge revelatory moment 248 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 2: that's going to come. 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Use my 270 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: name Clay as the promo code for forty percent off. 271 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: That's LifeLock dot Com promo code Clay. 272 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 5: Want to begin to know when you're on to go? 273 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 5: The Team forty seven podcast Trump highlights from the week 274 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 5: Sundays at noon Eastern in the Clay and Bug podcast feed. 275 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 5: Find it on the iHeartRadio amp or wherever you get 276 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 5: your podcasts. 277 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 2: Welcome back into Clay and Buck taking slings and arrows 278 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: from the disappointment over the predictions that have been made 279 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: on accountability today. 280 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: Sorry, I don't know, Maybe maybe I just go all in. 281 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 6: Like they're all going down, Obama, Bread and Clapper, They're 282 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 6: they're getting sent to prison, and all the Epstein people 283 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 6: are going they're also gonna, you know, whoever is involved, 284 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 6: they're all gonna. 285 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: I wish this would be great, but I think unfortunately 286 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: that's setting up a lot of people for for disappointment. 287 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: But well, let's take a look at this and we'll see. 288 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: I just I would ask this, we should we should 289 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: establish a ground rule here if you're going to write 290 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: it in an email or call and say that I 291 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: or Clay are just outrageously wrong on this issue in 292 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six and when nothing has happened, it's like 293 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: the start of the new and this has gone nowhere. 294 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: If that is what happens, you have to call in 295 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: or email in and be like, wow, you guys are right, 296 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: Thank you for being intellectually honest with us and respecting 297 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: all of us and caring about you know, setting the 298 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: table with what you think to be the facts and 299 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: the likelihood and not doing any of that other nonsense. 300 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: I see, you know the online right, people are saying 301 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: crazy stuff all the time to get attention, and then 302 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: there's no accountability when what they say doesn't doesn't come through. 303 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: You know. 304 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: So, what's the biggest whiff we've had in four years? 305 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: I whiffed on I really thought mid terms that elections. 306 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: That's the only really big, really big whiff. I mean, 307 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: you know, that was the only one that I and 308 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: and we explained that one. And actually there was a 309 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: red wave. It just didn't hit where it needed to 310 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: hit in order for it to give the control of 311 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: the house back and the things we wanted. 312 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: But I was a whiff in which that it was 313 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 2: a whiff. Other than that, we haven't wiffed, right, and 314 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: four years big one? Yeah, And so look, I would 315 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: and I think people can ask questions because I do 316 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: nailed this last election, by the way. Yeah my concern here, 317 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: People say, okay, what's the concern? It feels to me, like, remember, 318 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 2: I know you remember this well, the summer before nine 319 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: to eleven happened, and I hope I'm wrong. Everybody was 320 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: obsessed with things that, in the grand scheme of things, 321 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 2: were not hugely important stories. It was in DC because 322 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: I was there. What happened to Chandra Levy. Some of 323 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: you will remember her. She was an intern. It was 324 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: an obsession in Washington, d C. 325 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 3: It was. 326 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: It was sort of side show Carnival Theater. And then 327 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: nine to eleven happened, and suddenly everything got really serious. 328 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: Because wasn't she assaulted by an illegal? Assaulted and killed 329 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: by an illegal? Or am I misremembering that? They found 330 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: that out. You're right, Like a decade later they found 331 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: her body in Rock Creek Park. It was let's let's 332 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: come back to that, because I think it's interesting. My 333 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: concern is we're headed for something serious. 334 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: When you switch your cell phone service over to pure Talk, 335 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: you're saving money every month while not sacrificing any quality 336 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: of service. 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You had 359 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: coming off of the Bill Clinton affair with an intern. 360 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: You had the Chandra Levy drama. She was another in 361 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: turn allegedly having an affair with a politician. I think 362 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: it was a Republican politician, if I remember Gary Condit. 363 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: And it turned out she just got murdered randomly in 364 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: Rock Creek Park. It was the obsession of DC in 365 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: the summer of two thousand and one. Then nine to 366 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: eleven happened, and it turned out that there were a 367 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: lot of people asleep at the wheel, not paying attention 368 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: to what the real danger was. My concern right now 369 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: is a lot of this looking back, and I get 370 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: that it's significant. 371 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in fact an illegal immigrant, an illegal 372 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 2: alien who killed Schondra Levy just she was just jogging 373 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: my recollection buck is in Rock Creek Park. They never 374 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 2: found her body for like a decade, and then years 375 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: later they suddenly discovered, oh, she had been murdered. They 376 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: eventually found the guy who had killed her. My point 377 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: on that is just his conviction was actually overturned and 378 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: charges were later dropped, and then he was deported to 379 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: El Salvador. No, I didn't follow that. I didn't follow 380 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: that aspect of this just happened in twenty seventeen. I 381 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: didn't not know about that. Okay, Hum, Anyways, sorry, just 382 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: updating that it. 383 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: Is some of you will remember that story. 384 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: I got a lot of attention, and then nine to 385 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: eleven happened, and basically nobody cared about Chandra Levy and 386 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: Gary Cohn did or any of that drama, or for 387 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: that matter, hardly anything else that was going on. And 388 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: obviously that was coming out of a lot of consequential issues, 389 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: the two thousand election, the battle that we saw there, 390 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: all of those things. My point on this is, my 391 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: concern is that there are a lot of people who 392 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: want to do us ill and want to take advantage 393 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: of us. My hope is that in focusing on all 394 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: of these external factors that oftentimes are dating back a 395 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: decade or more, we aren't missing a new looming danger 396 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: that is out there that is far more consequential that 397 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: we'll look back on and say, boy, I wish we 398 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: had had the intelligence agencies focused on the future instead 399 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: of the past. Now positive positive here. This is pretty 400 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: extraordinary what Trump is doing. We have talked about economy, 401 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: border crime, economy, border crime. He is delivering on a 402 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 1: high level. And it's not just us telling you this. 403 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: I was watching this over the weekend. I believe Harry 404 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: Enton came in and said, the Trump administration is the 405 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: most influential this century and maybe going back decades and 406 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: decades into last century in terms of the changes that 407 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: they are implementing and the policy perspectives they're putting in place. 408 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: Cut twenty six. This is CNN. 409 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 7: The Donald Trump administration is arguably the most influential this 410 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 7: century and probably well dating back a good portion of 411 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 7: the last century as well. Trump is remaking in the 412 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 7: United States of America. Let's talk about tariffs first, right, 413 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 7: there's all this talk that Donald Trump always chickens out 414 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 7: when it comes to taris uh uh no tacos for Trump. 415 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 7: The effective tariff ray get this eighteen percent, the highest, 416 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 7: the highest since the FDR administration in the nineteen thirties, 417 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 7: up from get this, just two percent last year, from 418 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 7: just two percent last year. We're talking about a level 419 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 7: an effective tariff raith level get this nine times as 420 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 7: high this year than last year. But is not just 421 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 7: on tariffs, which of course Donald Trump ran on, in 422 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 7: which you're seeing a tremendously influential presidency. 423 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: What about immigration. 424 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 7: Of course Trump ran and has always run on a 425 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 7: very hawkish immigration platform. Get this twenty twenty five. Net 426 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 7: migration in the United States down at least sixty percent 427 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 7: from last year. In fact, we may be heading for 428 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 7: the first time and at least fifty years in which 429 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 7: we have negative net negative migration into the United States. 430 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: He's doing so much buck that I feel oftentimes we're 431 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: getting bogged down in the in the muck and not 432 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: recognizing some of the massive, substantial changes. 433 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: Here's one more clip. Trump is remaking the country via 434 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: executive orders more. I think you can go back now 435 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: one hundred years to FDR. I think you can argue 436 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: that Trump is the most consequential president since FDR. Not 437 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: saying I one hundred percent agree with that. I think 438 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: you can make that historic argument. That's the one CNN's making. 439 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: Cut twenty seven. 440 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 7: We're talking about immigration, migration, We're talking about the effective 441 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 7: tariff rate. But get this, how is Donald Trump doing it? 442 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 7: While he is signing a ton of executive orders? Get this, 443 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty the most in a year since 444 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 7: Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Oh my goodness, you have to go 445 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 7: back to the first half of the twentieth century, the 446 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 7: last century, and to make a comparison. Joe Biden signed 447 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 7: get this, just seventy seven during his entire first year, 448 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 7: and we're only a little bit in August so far, 449 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 7: and Donald Trump making history with one hundred and eighty 450 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 7: one hundred and eighty executive orders signed so far this year. 451 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 7: So that's why I said that, in my mind, Donald 452 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 7: Trump is the most influential president of this century and 453 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 7: probably dating back a good portion of the last century. 454 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 7: That is because he is remaking the country in terms 455 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 7: of tariffs, he is remaking the country in terms of 456 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 7: net migration, and he is remaking the country in terms 457 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 7: of how much policy changes he's putting through in executive orders. 458 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 7: As I said, it truly is history making. 459 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: When see an in saying it, buck, I think it 460 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: is representative of just how much he's delivering on so 461 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: far in the first six months of his presidency, the 462 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: likes of which, frankly, we may not have seen in 463 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: anybody's life who's out there listening to us right now. 464 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 3: Sometimes I think that gets missed. 465 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the presidency of Donald Trump so 466 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: far has been remarkably successful, as we've discussed many times, 467 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: and has already racked up some wins that I think 468 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: outpaced what a lot of Trump supporters even thought was possible. 469 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: The border is the best example of this, But even 470 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: so far, what we've seen on tariffs and the trade 471 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: agreements that he's been able to hammer out, this has beat. 472 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: It's one thing to beat expectations of that. 473 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: Trump is hitler, the sky is falling, like. 474 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: We expect that. He's of course better than they say 475 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 2: he's going to be, because they say. 476 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 4: He's the worst president in history. 477 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: But people who say Trump is great, for them to say, wow, 478 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: he's even going beyond what I thought was possible in 479 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: the first seven months of his presidency is an indicator 480 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 2: of just how well it is going on things that 481 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: really matter to people in their day to day lives, 482 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: and that's including a whole range of things. Now I 483 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 2: understand the jobs report was a little weak. Trump is 484 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 2: very fired up saying that he doesn't think that that's 485 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: a fair assessment. One thing that doesn't get talked about 486 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 2: enough is that jobs are going to a mariera. That's 487 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: something that I think everybody should meaning a lot of 488 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: the job growth that is happening in this country, it 489 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: is going to people who are supposed to be in 490 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: America and not illegals. That's a good thing, and that's 491 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: something that is happening more and more because of this presidency. 492 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: So while there are some areas of frustration, as there 493 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 2: always will be with any administration, and there are some 494 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 2: things that people want to see move faster or even 495 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 2: move a little bit differently, so far, I think it 496 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: has been a very successful presidency. And the best way 497 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: to maybe put a bow in the cap here I 498 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 2: don't know. I was trying to think of some analogy there, 499 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 2: but the best way to finish this off would just 500 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: be to say, if there was. 501 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 3: Some gaping wound in the. 502 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: Trump administration thus far, some huge failure of policy, if 503 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 2: we were in World War three or something like it 504 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 2: because of it roun, It's all you would be hearing about. 505 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: If we had gotten entangled in some foreign warm, we 506 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 2: were having Americans come home in body bags, is all 507 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 2: you would be hearing about. Every single day. What are 508 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: you hearing about when it comes to attacking Trump? 509 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 3: Eh, you know, I don't think they've been able to 510 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: even land a punch on him. 511 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: I look, they've tried to say, hey, he's responsible for 512 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: what's going on on Gaza. I think that's hard to 513 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: put on Trump. They tried to say he hasn't ended 514 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine and Russia. Yet again, I think 515 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: that's hard to put on Trump. The only real thing 516 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: is the resistance two point zero. 517 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: Through the judiciary. 518 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I will play some of these cuts for you, 519 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: but calling him hitler the attacks, I just I think 520 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Democrats increasingly are kind of throwing up their hands. Now 521 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: if they win the House, will they impeach him? 522 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: Probably? Will that have any impact at all? No, It'll be. 523 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: Funny, though, is watching like watching MSNBC and The New 524 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: York Times act like impeachment three? This time it's real, 525 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's gonna be like a really bad 526 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: sequel to a movie that never should have been made 527 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: in the first place. 528 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 3: Like now the walls are really closing in. 529 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: Well, I don't even know what the ground mel impeach 530 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: him four? As is right? I mean, and it is 531 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: true that it doesn't matter. 532 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 4: Can I point? 533 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: Can I Can I bring actually, Clay, I want to 534 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: bring a VIP email into the mix here on this, 535 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: because we're getting a lot of VIP emails from this 536 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: And again I'm just telling you what we think, and 537 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: Clay and I don't. 538 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: We don't even coordinate on. 539 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: These things before, Like the show, we'll talk about topics, 540 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: but we're not having long conversations about where we're gonna. 541 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: You know, we're both just being honest with you about 542 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: I don't even think the subpoena is that Homer's putting 543 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: out that those aren't even gonna those testimonies aren't even 544 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: gonna happen for the most part. Okay, that's just the truth. 545 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: It's just the truth. So you can get mad at 546 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: me or whatever. But if you're mad at me today 547 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: in six months, when you know that I'm right, please 548 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: say thank you Buck. 549 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 4: For telling us what you knew was true. 550 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: The other stuff, some of the other stuff, I'm not 551 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: you know, the grand jury, I said on Will's Show yesterday, 552 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: Will kne Show yesterday and Fox, that's a big step 553 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: that indicates maybe something is going to happen there. But 554 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 2: Joseph our VP sent us this, and I think this 555 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 2: is an important point to keep in mind with all 556 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 2: of this stuff here, he writes, please stop saying that 557 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: nothing is going to work. How many charges were brought 558 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: against Trump, how many were legit How much for Trump 559 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: in legal fees? You guys are so bad at Lawfair 560 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: start suing Obama into the poorhouse. Okay, let's just take 561 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: a step back. What happened after all the stuff they 562 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 2: did to Trump? Okay, let's take a moment here. They 563 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: did all this stuff to Trump, and what happened. He 564 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: won the election. He smoked everybody in the primary, he 565 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: crushed the opposition of the general election, and is the 566 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: most powerful president of our lifetimes. And the Democrat Party 567 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: is still licking their wounds. So keep in mind that 568 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: this lawfair stuff that they did, as annoying and underhanded 569 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: as it was, got absolutely steamrolled. All of it absolutely steamrolled. 570 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: So the notion that this is some secret weapon that 571 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: Trump is refusing to use for his part, ignores the 572 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: recent history of it. Got completely crushed. Trump stopped this 573 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: thing under his heel like a little squishy bug. Okay, 574 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: remember that, everybody, Remember what just happened. Yeah, it actually 575 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: benefited him. And in fact, if you could go into 576 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: a multiverse world, what would the election in twenty twenty 577 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: four have looked like if Democrats had just said, Hey, 578 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna run against Trump, but we're not going to 579 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 2: put law fair in play. Right, they hadn't ever rated 580 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 2: mar A Lago. They hadn't ever brought charges on the 581 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: bookkeeping in New York City, they hadn't filed charges in Atlanta, 582 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: and the ridiculous Fanny Willis case. 583 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 3: None of that had happened. 584 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 1: Jack Smith never took an came in as a special 585 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: counsel and tried to prosecute. I think it would have 586 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: hurt Trump, and I think it's actually a good lesson 587 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: that to Buck's point here, Trump actually has made billions 588 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: of dollars in retrospect. The other thing is, you're not 589 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: gonna bankrupt Barack Obama in America ed dollars. Every lawyer 590 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: in America, just about who is on the East Coast 591 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: wants to rep Barack Obama for free. Yes, I mean, 592 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: and most of these guys are super wealthy and will 593 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: get incredible uh representation. It'll all be paid for by donors. 594 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: I just again, I think the historical record matters, but 595 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: I think the idea of people going to prison is 596 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: going to be very difficult to pull off. 597 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: I think that Trump is going through this process with 598 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: his hand picked team in his second administration. 599 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. 600 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 4: There's some there's some on the right play. 601 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: You know, they're very much disagree with you and me, 602 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: but on some of this stuff, they're actually disagreeing with Trump. 603 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: Keep that in mind. Okay, he's making these calls, he's 604 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: making these decisions, and look at how often he has 605 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: been right and has seen his way through and everything else. 606 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: So when I'm saying, hey, I think Pambon is hanlings 607 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: this way, this is how this is going to go, 608 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: and someone is writing in and telling us, Hey, here's 609 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: what you guys should be saying they should do the following, 610 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: keep in mind Trump and his team are not doing 611 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: the following. Whatever it may be, they're doing it this way. 612 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a reason for that. Maybe they have some 613 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 2: understanding and I think we all know they do of 614 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: what the political dynamics are here and what benefits the administration. 615 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: So and nobody wants justice and vengeance more than Trump 616 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: for what was done to him, but I think he 617 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: understands the big picture here. 618 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: Let me give you a sports analogy as we got 619 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: to break, because I think it's a good one. Basically, 620 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: Trump is Tom Brady with the New England Patriots or 621 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan with the Chicago Bulls in the midst of 622 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: an unbelievable dynasty. Can you quibble with some of the 623 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: decisions that Tom Brady or Michael Jordan make on a 624 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: play by play basis? 625 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: Sure? 626 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: Should you also at times just sit back and be like, damn, 627 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 2: I'm glad I get to watch this mostly. 628 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: Yes. 629 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: That's kind of the way I feel right now about 630 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: Trump two point zero is if you were a Patriots 631 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: fan during the Brady dynasty or you were a Bulls 632 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: fan during the Jordan dynasty, I don't want to nitpick 633 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: because Jordan should have passed instead of taken a jumper. 634 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: He's still Jordan. Yeah, Brady might miss a deep ball 635 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: every now and then, but he's still the greatest who 636 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: ever do it. What we're seeing right now, in my 637 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: opinion from a sports analogy perspective, is Brady and Jordan, 638 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: like from the Trump team, they're performing at a dynastic level. 639 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people who are nitpicking 640 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: are missing the larger success. And you're gonna be twenty 641 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: years from now, you're gonna be sitting back like man, 642 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: I would give anything to have Trump two point oho underway. 643 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: That's my thoughts. 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I wake up every day still 648 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: with a smile on my face because I know Trump 649 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: is doing exactly what he said he was gonna do, 650 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: and I don't know that we've ever had. 651 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 3: A president like this. 652 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: There's also a lot of stuff that he does that 653 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: I haven't even thought should be done by a president 654 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 2: that I really like, and that has never happened before. 655 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 3: I remember the Bush years. 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Peace of mind starts with a plan. 683 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 3: News you can count on, and some laughs too. 684 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 5: Clay Travis and Buck Sex find them on the free 685 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 5: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 686 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. 687 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: We got a very quick turn around here, so let 688 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 2: me just say, well, take calls and emails and talkbacks 689 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 2: top of the next hour, because a lot of you 690 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 2: want to weigh in on today's main topic, your conversation, 691 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 2: what is the way forward against the Lawfair, the Lawfair 692 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: participants who went after Trump and Trump's advisors. 693 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 3: We'll get into some of that. 694 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 2: Also, we have Alex Marlow of Breitbart will be joining 695 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 2: us talk about his new book which is on Lawfair. 696 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 2: So that's a that's a good topical topical topic. 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