1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: This is the Blueberg Day BAQT podcast. Good Morning is Wednesday, 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: the twenty fifth of March. I'm Caroline Hepge here in 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: London and. 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: I'm Stephen Carolin Brussels. 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Coming up today, the US pitches a plan to end 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: the Iran War while simultaneously ordering more troops to the region. 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: Why the conflict in the Middle East may pose an 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: existential threat to China's economy. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: Plus tough talks ahead. 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: The party of Denmark's Prime Minister wins the general election 12 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: but fails to secure a majority, setting the stage for 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: difficult coalition negotiations. 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg has learned that the United States has drafted a 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: fifteen point plan aimed at ending the Iran War. Sources 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: say the proposal has been delivered to Tehran via Pakistan. 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: Details of the plan remain unclear, However, President Trump has 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: publicly stated that any agreement must include a ban on 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon or enriching uranium. The White 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: House's public position on the conflict has shifted rapidly in 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: recent days. Trump says Iran has offered a gift as 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: a show of good faith and negotiations, which he claimed 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: are already underway. 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 4: They did something yesterday that was amazing. Actually, they gave 26 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 4: us a present, and the president arrived today. It was 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 4: a very big present, worth a tremendous amount of money. 28 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: And I'm not going to tell you what that president is. 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: His comments came as all sides continued to conduct air 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: and drone strikes around the region. The death toll from 31 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: the war continues to rise. According to the US based 32 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Human rights Activist News Agency, more than three thy two 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: hundred people have been killed in Iran. Lebanon's Public Health 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: Ministri says attacks there have killed more than one thousand people. 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: In Israel, more than twenty people have been killed, and 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: thirteen American soldiers are also known to have died since 37 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: the war began. 38 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: The jomp administration has ordered another two thousand soldiers to 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: the Middle East, as the White House refuses to rule 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: out using true on the ground. Bloomberg understands that the 41 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: latest orders are in addition to the five thousand American 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: troops already en route to the Middle East. US Defense 43 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: Secretary Pete Hegsith sees the military as a form of 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: pressure in any talks. 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 5: We see ourselves as part of this negotiation as well. 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 5: We negotiate with bombs. You have a choice. As we 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 5: loiter over the top of Tehran. As the President talked 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 5: about about your future. 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 6: President has made it clear that you will not have 50 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 6: a nuclear weapon. The War Department agrees. Our job is 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 6: to ensure that, and so we're keeping our hand on 52 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 6: that throttle as long as as hard as it's necessary. 53 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: Hegsath did not address the reports of soldiers being deployed 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: to the region. The move comes as pressure grows on 55 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: the US to take action to reopen the Strait of Hormus, 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: a vital waterway for global oil and gas flows. 57 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: AARAN says foreign ships are allowed to cross the Strait 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: of Hormoes as long as they abide by IT rules. 59 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: In a letter to members of the International Maritime Organization, 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: the country says safe passage would be granted to foreign 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: ships which weren't supporting acts of aggression against it. Some 62 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: sources of tol Bloomberg Around has also started charging transit 63 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: fees to commercial vessels. Black Rock CEO Larry Fink was 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: asked by the BBC's Simon Jack what the long term 65 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: consequences of the war might be. 66 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 7: If there's a cessation of war and yet it remains 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 7: a threat, a threat to trade, a threat to the 68 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 7: to the streets of harmouth, then I would argue that 69 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 7: we could have years, years of you know, above one 70 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 7: hundred dollars closer to one hundred and fifty dollars oil. 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: What happens to the global economy If that happens, how 72 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: do we see it. 73 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 7: Will have global recession? 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Larry Fink added he could see high oil prices affecting 75 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: the expansion of artificial intelligence in the US and Europe. 76 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Commodities markets of an exceptionally volatile ast. Traders try to 77 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: gauge when the war will end and the straight hormus 78 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: would be reopened. 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Russia has seen its oil revenue search to the highest 80 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: in four years. The Kremlin is benefiting from the war 81 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: in the Middle East thanks to soaring prices and increased 82 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: exports after sanctions were eased. Michael Klauser, in Supreme Commander 83 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: and Chief of Defense of the Swedish Armed Forces, discusses 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: how the tariff relief is fueling Putin's war machine A lot. 85 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 8: I would say, not the least that that Iran and 86 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 8: Russia are linked already from the beginning, which we know, 87 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 8: but also the fact that that oil prices are feeding 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 8: into an already let's say, a war economy and a 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 8: production capacity that is quite dramatic already in terms of 90 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 8: providing providing Russian military with the ballistic missiles. 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: Russia's oil income had been going down before the US 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: and Israel launched their campaign against Iran. However, the war 93 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 2: reversed the decline and doubled Moscow's exports. In the last 94 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: three weeks. On a four week average basis, the gross 95 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 2: value of Moscow's crude exports jumped to one point seventy 96 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: one billion dollars per week, the highest since June twenty 97 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: twenty four. 98 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: The party of Denmark's Prime Minister and Meta Fredrickson won 99 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: the most seats in the general election, but failed to 100 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: secure a majority. It was the worst result of the 101 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: Social Democrats in over a century, with just under twenty 102 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: two percent of the vote. The coalition of left wing 103 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: parties won eighty four seats, while rightling in groups won 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: seventy seven. Ninety seats are needed for a majority. The 105 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: centrist moderates will now be key to forming the next government. 106 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: The election campaign was heavily influenced by US President Donald 107 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: Trump's threats to take over Greenland, which is part of 108 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: the Danish Kingdom. 109 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 2: Italy's Georgia Maloney is calling on her Tourism Minister, Daniella 110 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Santanke to resign after a defeat and a key referendum. 111 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: The Prime Minister issued the demand in a statement late 112 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: yesterday as she attempts to clean house after the government 113 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 2: lost a national vote to overhaul Italy's judicial system on Monday. 114 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: Santanke is accused of false accounting and other allegations, but 115 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: denies wrongdoing. Her exit would follow the resignations of two 116 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 2: Justice Ministry officials, which Maloney said she welcomed. Sank Tanke 117 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 2: didn't immediately respond to a request for comment from Bloomberg News. 118 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: And those are our top stories, but just one other 119 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: we wanted to share with you this morning. On NASA's 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: galactic ambitions. Bimbergs, Lauren Grush and Sana Pshanker have been 121 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: reporting that the US Space Agency is to invest twenty 122 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: billion dollars over the next seven years, with two big goals, 123 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: one to develop a base on the surface of the 124 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: Moon and two to build a new spacecraft to reach Mars. Now, 125 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: both projects are meant to satisfy an executive order that 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: President Trump signed in December. He wants US astronauts back 127 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: on the Moon by twenty twenty eight and to begin 128 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: building a permanent lunar outpost by twenty thirty. Now, this 129 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: is an ambitious project and timeline for the Space Agency, 130 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: particularly time of budget constraints as well. And now they're 131 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: going to convert part of the plan for a space 132 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: station on the Moon, which is full science fiction territory 133 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: for me. Anyway that they're going to They had plans 134 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: for an orbital space station on the Moon. Now they're 135 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: going to put it on the Moon instead. So this 136 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: will involve conversing some of the units that are being developed, 137 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: including that being built by the European Space Agency to 138 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: be involved in it as well. But lots of questions 139 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: about I suppose where the money is going to come from. 140 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: You have to get Congress to approve this funding as well. 141 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they want private companies perhaps involved. You know, NASA 142 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: has been working those in terms of sort of cruing 143 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: missions to the Moon, more regular flights. 144 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: I think is generally part of the problem as well, 145 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: they want, you know, to make make it the low 146 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: cost carrier version where you can get there much more easily. 147 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: Well, you wouldn't want to get stuck as those astronauts 148 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: recently did up there for you know, longer than expected 149 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: and trying to get back. 150 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, would you want to go to the Moon? 151 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say no. Someone offered, I don't think i'd 152 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: be in for the preparation, but sure. 153 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: Why not? Yeah? 154 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: Exactly, it's all about the science. Do we have enough 155 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: sizes for us to get to me? And I don't know. Right, 156 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: let's think about the markets then this morning, so equities 157 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: rallying right now, the MSCI All Country World indexes up 158 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: by three tenths of one percent. You also see the 159 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: MSCI as your Pacific Index up by one point eight percent. 160 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 2: This is supported by the slump in oil prices and 161 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: with markets thinking about the optimism around a US peace plan, 162 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: but also buffeted by the warriors around the Straits of 163 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 2: hor moves one hundred dollars about for brain crude futures 164 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 2: down by three point six percent, and you also have 165 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 2: European stop futures therefore pointing higher, up nine tenths of 166 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: one percent, also gains in sovereign bonds ten uere. US 167 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: treasury yields down two basis points, gold rising for a 168 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: second day, and you also have a bitcoin up by 169 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 2: one point three percent this morning. Still lots of volatility 170 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: in markets, but the pressure coming off a little bit 171 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: in crude markets. 172 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: Well, in a moment, will bring you more on how 173 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: the war in Iran presents you risks for China, plus 174 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: more on the results of the Danish general election as well. 175 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: But let's bring you up to date with the latest 176 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: developments in the Middle East and this fifteen point piece 177 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: plan drafted by the United States intended to end the conflict. 178 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: Our Deputy Washington Beer chief Laura Davison joins us now 179 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: for more. Laura, what do we know about what's in 180 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: this piece plan? 181 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 10: We know very little. We know that it's a fifteen 182 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 10: point plan. 183 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 11: We know that Pakistan sort of served as the intermediary 184 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 11: between the US and Iran to get the plan that 185 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 11: the US drafted to the Iranians, But beyond that, it's 186 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 11: very unclear. You know, Trump has said publicly that there 187 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 11: are fifteen points of agreement between Iran and the US. 188 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 11: That is, you know, at least publicly. The Iranians have 189 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 11: have signaled no such thing. The other thing that Trump 190 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 11: has said that would be in any deal is that 191 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 11: there would be a prohibition against Iran ever obtaining a 192 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 11: nuclear weapon or being able to enrich uranium. So that's 193 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 11: at least kind of the contour of this deal. But 194 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 11: sort of what those other fourteen points could look like 195 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 11: a are highly unclear. This continues to be sort of 196 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 11: a you know, Trump has been out there very vocally 197 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 11: saying that there are diplomatic talks, that there are these 198 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 11: this sort of movement towards a peace deal, but both 199 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 11: Iran has said that the US is just negotiating with 200 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 11: itself and that you know, is continuing to launch strikes 201 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 11: as well as Israel sort of Trump's Trump and the 202 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 11: US's main partner in this also have continued to really 203 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 11: bombard Iran today. 204 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: So Nour, is there any indication that Yvonne is open 205 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: to diplomacy? 206 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 10: Very little so far. 207 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 11: You know, there have been sort of signs that there 208 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 11: have at least been some back channels open with Oman, 209 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 11: with Pakistan, with Egypt sort of serving in those roles 210 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 11: to sort of trade some messages back and forth. But 211 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 11: you know, Trump has cast these discussions of sort of 212 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 11: very robusts that there could potentially be you know, a deal, 213 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 11: you know, in the coming days. He sent a five 214 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 11: day deadline, you know that he extended from Monday evening 215 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 11: on terms of attacking energy infrastructure, saying that there was 216 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 11: progress on talks. Trump also indicated that Iran had offered 217 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 11: a present, sort of an unspecified present, but that was 218 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 11: very valuable and had to deal with the energy moving, 219 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 11: energy supplies moving through the strait of horror moves. But 220 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 11: all of this, you know, is very unclear. It's really 221 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 11: coming from the US side, and Iran has not confirmed 222 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 11: or or really weighed in at all except to say 223 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 11: that they are continuing the fight. 224 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: But the US, the same time, Laura is deploying more 225 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: forces to the Middle East. Does that tell us that 226 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: a further escalation is still likely. 227 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 10: At least certainly possible. 228 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 11: This is really what's been confusing, as you have the 229 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 11: President saying one thing that he's you know, looking for peace, 230 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 11: looking for a deal, whereas the Pentagon is sort of 231 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 11: moving troops and you know, very costly endeavors at the 232 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 11: exact same time, you know, So there was an announcement 233 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 11: just recently that there would be two thousand troops from 234 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 11: the eighty second Airporn Division. 235 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 10: Those are sort of special forces. This is on top. 236 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 11: Of a deployment of five thousand marine troops that was 237 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 11: announced a couple of days ago. Those folks are in 238 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 11: transit and these special forces would follow. This indicates that 239 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 11: the US is at least keeping their options open for 240 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 11: some sort of escalation and you know, even perhaps some 241 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 11: sort of you know, ground strike, ground troop invasion. You know, 242 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 11: the US, you know both if you look at sort 243 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 11: of the history just going back to Venezuela and also 244 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 11: to Iran, as it's added more forces, there have been 245 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 11: more military actions than have followed. 246 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much, Laura for being with us. 247 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: Our Deputy Washington Bureau Chief, Laura Davison, we appreciate you 248 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: being with us taking us through, yes, the latest US 249 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 2: peace plan. 250 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: When it comes to Iran, the war. 251 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: In the Middle East may be an existential threat to 252 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: China if the war is prolonged. 253 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: That's according to Bomberg. 254 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: Companion columnist Chili Ran has been writing about the ties 255 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: between the city of Yuwu, Iran and Gulf States, and 256 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: sheley joins US now from more sally. 257 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: Why is this war so dangerous? 258 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 12: Possibly for China because China is terrified of global recession. 259 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 12: They don't want to have They don't want to see 260 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 12: a collapse in consumer demand and demand destruction. What happens 261 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 12: with China is that we all know China's domestic economy 262 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 12: is not working out right. The property downturn has been 263 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 12: ongoing for over four years. Consumer domestic consumption is very weak, 264 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 12: and the last two years the saving grades. The only 265 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 12: bright spot in Chinese economy basically is exports because the 266 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 12: global economy was doing pretty well. Now, in the event 267 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 12: that you know, like an oil and energy shock, drags 268 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 12: the global economy into a recession, then the Chinese government 269 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 12: is in big trouble. They will have to find the 270 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 12: physical space to stimulate the economy and to reach the 271 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 12: so called four point five to five percent growth goal, 272 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 12: and they don't want to see that. 273 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 2: Ye Wu itself is a massive Chinese wholesale hub. So 274 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: it's quite interesting to understand you're reporting about what's actually 275 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 2: been happening there in the past four weeks and the 276 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: impression that it gives you on the ground. 277 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 9: Right. 278 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 12: So e Wu is the world's biggest the small commodities 279 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 12: a wholesale hub, and in the first two months of 280 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 12: the year before before this whole around war happened, exports 281 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 12: from e Will actually increased the fifty percent year on 282 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 12: here following twenty five percent increased last year, so basically 283 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 12: the city was not affected by Donald Trump's terriffs at all. 284 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 12: But in March, vendors in e would say that the 285 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 12: Middle Eastern customers, who are very well sought after in EU, 286 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 12: they basically disappeared. Even the ones the buyers who were 287 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 12: in EU, they were rushing to find flights home. They 288 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 12: There were state media reports that some Iranian customers they 289 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 12: actually left so that they could join the army to 290 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 12: defend the sovereignty of their country. So local vendors were 291 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 12: quite unhappy about that because customers from the Middle East 292 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 12: they bring big business. In the last five years, Middle 293 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 12: Eastern customers, the Chinese exports to the Middle East basically doubled, 294 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 12: exceeding one hundred and twillion in twenty twenty five, and 295 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 12: in the first two months of the year exports to 296 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 12: the Middle East were still going very well, and all 297 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 12: of that basically stopped. 298 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: So what sort of debate is happening now in China 299 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: about the potential effects of the war and what sort 300 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: of response might there be from Beijing. 301 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 12: So right now, pretty much everyone agrees that in the 302 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 12: short term China is fairly well insulent because China has 303 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 12: very good oil reserves, and the people pretty much agree 304 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 12: with that, and then the Chinese government can do price 305 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 12: controls and slow down the rights in field and the 306 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 12: gasoline cost. But over the long run there is this debate. 307 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 12: There are some so called the wolf warriors. They basically 308 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 12: say that, okay, this is great for China because you know, 309 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 12: the US military has splashed all its military weapons in 310 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 12: the Middle East over around and then there will be 311 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 12: no weapons left in the Far East in the Pacific, 312 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 12: and that would be good for China's ambition towards Taiwan. 313 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 12: And some say that, okay, then China will win the 314 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 12: AI rate arms race because you know, the US data 315 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 12: centers are still powered by a natural guest, right, and 316 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 12: then electricity generation in China is a large hippers or 317 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 12: China will wing this race, that the AI race will 318 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 12: go from the scarcity of AI chips to electricity and 319 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 12: China will wing. But the government is not liking those 320 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 12: Hawkish comments. 321 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Shulely, thank you so much for being with us. 322 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,119 Speaker 2: Bloomberg opinion columnist Shuley Wren just talking about the fallout 323 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: from the war around the war in the Middle East 324 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 2: from Beijing's perspective. Thank you stay with us. More from 325 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Daybakeube coming up after this. Now, let's get to 326 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: the results of the Danish election. The per minister Metter 327 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: Frade since ruling party winning the most seats but falling 328 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: short of and over majority. The snap poll was called 329 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: in the wake of President Trump's threats over Greenland joining 330 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: US now has been both Copenhagen chief Sarah Cholin, good morning, 331 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: good to speak to you. So the Social Democrats getting 332 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: the most seats, what happens next in terms of the 333 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: formation of the government. I did note that there were 334 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 2: twelve parties in all vying for votes in this election. 335 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, exactly, And it's been a very fragmented election. The 336 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 13: Danes are just really really split. Metapolics and Social Democrats 337 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 13: still the biggest Danish party around twenty two percent of 338 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 13: the votes, but that's not a lot for the biggest party, 339 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 13: so she really really has to bring out now her 340 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 13: best negotiation skills to try and form a government coalition. 341 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 13: But it's not really going to be easy because a 342 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 13: lot of these twelve parties they set up redlines. 343 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 9: Thinks you just simply. 344 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 13: Won't give up one in order to support a government. 345 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 13: She might have to bring in some of her left 346 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 13: leaning allies. She might have to bring in some of 347 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 13: the right leaning parties. But at this of all of 348 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 13: this is the foreign the current foreign minutes that last 349 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 13: year go Asmussen, that's the one that stood up against 350 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 13: Donald Trump, and he's emerged as this king maker. He 351 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 13: really holds the deciding mandates now, whether it's going to 352 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 13: be government A or government B. 353 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: So when we look at the outcome matter, Fredericks and 354 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: call this election to capitalize on her popularity after the 355 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: standoff with Donald Trump over Greenland. Has that bet paid off? 356 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: And how important will Greenland be in what happens next? 357 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 9: It has certainly paid off. 358 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 13: When we go back to December, before Trump, the writer 359 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 13: has sart of taking over Greenland. She was polling around 360 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 13: eighteen percent. She came out of a really bad local 361 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 13: election in Copenhagen, and she was reading from that, and 362 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 13: then Trump came in and there was this rally around 363 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 13: the fact in Denmark, and she came out of this 364 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 13: election around twenty two percent of the vote, so that 365 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 13: is a lot better than what we're looking at in December. 366 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 9: So yes, it has paid off. 367 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 13: We will likely see Trump and just your politics in 368 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 13: general play quite a big pad in forming the coalition. 369 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 9: The centrist, the current foreign. 370 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 13: Minister last year of ASMOSOM has said we need to 371 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 13: stand together. 372 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 9: We need a. 373 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 13: Party across fractions of government. We need everyone at this 374 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 13: specific time in history to stand together. 375 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 9: As one united named nation. 376 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 13: Because we are only six million, there's not really time 377 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 13: to be such a fact for political landscape as we 378 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 13: are right now. 379 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, six million voters in Denmark and the country has 380 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: some of the highest living standards anywhere in the world. 381 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 2: So it was also interesting to understand the campaign from 382 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: other perspectives because there was also talk of a wealth tax. 383 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: There's also been hardening in terms of immigration policy in Denmark. 384 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: What did we learn from the election results in terms 385 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: of what is the most important thing, what are the 386 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: most important subjects for Danes right now? 387 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 13: We learned that immigration is still quite an important issue. 388 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 13: The parties that are strongly against lots of immigration like 389 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 13: this tough immigration stand They did quite well and we 390 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 13: had the very right wing I'd. 391 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 9: Like to come cohered to the AfD of Denmark. 392 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 13: They gata SURG polls not as big as in many 393 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 13: other European countries, but still quite a big step up 394 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 13: for Denmark for him, so anti immigration is still. 395 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 9: A big issue. 396 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 13: We're also seen voters support paties that are big on climate. 397 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 9: Clean drinking water has emerged a major theme animal. 398 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 13: Welfare, specifically in pig farming, so anti migration and climate 399 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 13: has been two of the main issues that come out 400 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 13: of this. 401 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 402 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 403 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apples, Spotify, 404 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 405 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 406 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 407 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 408 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: Amazon Alexa devices. 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