WEBVTT - Breaking Down Offensive Coordinator Interviews | Bucs Insider Live 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:08.720 Welcome to Bucks Insider Live, presented by Verizon Casey Phillips. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.280 Here was senior writer and editor Scott Smith. And you know, 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:13.319 it's inns interesting this time of year in the off season. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:15.000 Sometimes we're like, man, we don't really have a whole 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.360 lot to talk about, But after our last show, a 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.280 whole bunch of things happened almost right after we went 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.040 live on the diming was very interesting. So we actually 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:24.360 do have a fair amount to talk about now in 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:26.800 terms of since our last show. It isn't necessarily the 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:29.760 newest of information at this point, but uh, the Bucks 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:32.240 did still be acknowledged, Yes, still need to talk about 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.520 it now. That the Bucks did end up having several 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:36.760 co ching changes, we figured we'd go through that now 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.440 and then what we know in terms of the attempts 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.560 to replace some of those people that are going on now. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:43.640 So first of all, just take us kind of through 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.960 the changes that were made. Yeah, and I think shameless 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.280 plug here, Um, you're you and Brianna and Jeff and 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.879 I combined our did a little mashup of our podcast, 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.080 so check that out on Buccaneers. Yes, it was very fun, 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.200 so Salty Dogs Tampa to mash up it was great 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.240 wherever you get your podcast, um, and we talked about 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.560 this a little bit. It's it's one of the hard parts, 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:07.240 one of the unfortunate parts of the job, right and uh, 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:09.360 you don't these are people you work with and you 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.240 don't like to see the loser jobs. But it happened, 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.400 so let's acknowledge that, right. And so the Buccaneers parted 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:18.400 ways with six coaches, um, including offensive corner and Byron Leftwich. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:23.440 Also Chris Bonnal, Kevin Garver, Jeff Castle, Lorie Locust, and 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.240 Tom McNair. And also three others decided to retire, and 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.000 that was Clik Christensen, Rick Christophel and Bob Sanders. So 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.280 almost exclusively on the offensive side. You had Lori Locust 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.480 and Bob Sanders who are leaving on the defensive side, 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:40.160 and then Chris Boniol the kicking specialist. So now, of 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.120 course there's just so many interesting We talked about this 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.280 on Salty Dogs the Dominoes. Now, of where you don't 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.280 really know exactly We've got a lot of free agents. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.000 You don't really know exactly what this team is going 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.680 to look like from that standpoint, salary cap and then 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.760 it's do you hire people based on the players, do 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:58.000 players come back based on who you hire, the order 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.800 of all of that. So what do we know at 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:01.640 this point about where the Bucks are in terms of 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:03.520 some of that hiring and the way they're going about 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.600 the Job number one is the offensive coordinator because like 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.840 you said, most of these positions were offensive, and so 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.679 you want to get the guy at the top in 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.200 first or woman man or woman at the top in first, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.600 and then you know, fill those assistant positions after that. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.960 And they have started to line up some candidates, and 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.240 like most teams, when they finished an interview in the 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.960 Buccaneers announced that they've done so. So the one we 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.440 know for sure is Clint Kubiak of the Denver Broncos, 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.040 the passing game coordinator and quarterbacks coach for the Denver 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:36.240 Broncos and former offensive coordinator for the Vikings. He interviewed yesterday. 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:37.760 So there'll probably be some more these are going to 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.120 be coming out. We won't we won't really announce them 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:43.120 until they're done. But I think that's the thing that 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.200 that's job number one, right, which is going to be 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.080 so interesting and so um looking at this, what do 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.120 you feel like are the things that they're going to 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.000 be the steps that we can be paying attention to 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.080 now of how this offseason goes in terms of like 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.880 we talked about the free agents, there's salary cap things, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.760 there's coaches to hire. How is this different maybe than 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:03.799 We've had a lot of continuity these last few years, 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.000 both in terms of coaching and players, so we have 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.440 not had to walk through this in a little while. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.359 Remind everyone kind of the timeline of when these things 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.880 might be happening, how it affects this offseason, and what 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.640 we might be looking Well, I think the coaching hires 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.760 will have been relatively quick quickly because they kind of 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.440 have to write you really need to get your plans 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.560 in place, and and also there are a lot of teams. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.920 There's about nine teams if you count the ones that 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.120 fired their head coaches that are looking for a new 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.000 offensive coordinators. So if you're if there's any person out 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.160 there that you're really hot after, you may have competition 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:34.640 for that person, and so you kind of have to 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.920 move pretty quickly. Yeah, that's been so interesting to see 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.760 because to your point, Yeah, it's like it might make 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.720 it harder because there are so many teams you could 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.119 be in competition with but it also shows how many 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.760 teams parted ways with their offensive coordinators, which means maybe 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.040 there's more available than in traditional years that have had 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.360 experience in that area, is compared to someone who hasn't 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.760 that's moving up into that role, which would be good 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.120 news for people like Byron Levetwig And you know, as 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.840 I meant to say when we were talking about that, 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.640 UM coach Bowls decided that these moves needed to be 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:04.320 made for the future, for the you know, for the 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.240 betterment of the team going forward in three But let's 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.760 not diminish the and he said so in his quote, 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.840 the work and the effort and the successes they helped 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.320 in the past four years. I mean, look at Byron 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:18.039 left which is an example. You know, he was on 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.520 the Super Bowl staff. He was a coordinator for an 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.080 offense that did really well for several years. So good 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.839 for them for that. But yes, in terms of a 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.279 lot of candidates being out there, that's true. Uh, and 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:30.880 so there could be some competition for him. So I 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.760 think that's first, But I think probably the other big storyline, 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:37.400 I mean, quarterback is obviously the big story, but the 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.480 thing that underlies all of this is the buck salary 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.600 cap situation, and that's something that actually is going to 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.720 have to be attended to before free agency. So that's 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.520 actually the next thing, because the Buccaneers as constituted now 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.040 are about fifty million dollars over the cap with the 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.280 contracts they have, for which you can't do I mean, 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.600 you can't just go oil you. You have to solve it. 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.760 So there will be, without a doubt, some roster room 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.640 has made. Some players might even get released, that's possible, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.359 but there will be maybe contract extensions or contracts we reworked, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.560 and all that's going to happen in the next month 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.280 and a half, yeah, which is going to be interesting. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.719 And so looking at to the free agent list, it 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:18.719 is so long, and I don't know if that's a 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.159 good thing or a bad thing in terms of the 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.440 contract or the salary cap situation. That you have a 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:25.200 lot of guys that you can figure out what to 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.040 do with now is compared to already being locked in 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.520 with them. But um, it is going to be quite 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.159 a task for Jason Lte and his whole staff. What 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:33.520 do you feel like are going to be some of 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.080 the priorities and how do all these different again dominoes 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:39.159 affect each other of looking at who all is a 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.800 free agent on this team, Well, there's about there's about 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.920 two dozen of them, which actually isn't really all that uncommon. 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.160 The Bucks have been in that situation for about three 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:48.360 or four years in a row now, and part of 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:50.280 the reason for that is they have signed a lot 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.479 of one year contracts and you know guys, a couple 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.240 of guys like Leonard four, Nette Shack, Barrett, Chris Godwin. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.120 They got long term deals in the last couple of years, 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.720 but before that we're one year to year. Tom Brady 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.480 almost has gone year to year. The last one was 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.400 two years. So um, there have been like you signed, 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.000 got like a Chem Hicks. He was an important free 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:09.760 agent edition for the Buccaneers. But they don't signed to 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.080 a one year deal. So you get a lot of 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:12.919 those deals from which means every year you have a 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.440 couple dozen understrictive free agents to deal with and you 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.280 don't bring them all back. But there are some names 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.520 on there. Obviously we keep saying that Tom Brady is 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.119 an unrestricted free agent, um, but there's others. Lavante David, 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.520 you know who's been this team captain for nine straight years, 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:28.320 and it really had a very nice season in the 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.520 eleventh year. Um, and most of the secondary, to be 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.480 honest with you, Yeah, that's basically that is the way 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.279 to look at it is almost the entire s Davis 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.840 is under contract and Antrom Winfield's under contract, and that's 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:40.360 about it. That's crazy. We talked about that on our 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.800 Saltry Dogs podcast of where I had looked up what 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.200 a huge percentage of the passes defense and interceptions. I 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.520 think you said the eight of ten interceptions, and then 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.480 I can't remember the exact number for the passes defensed. 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.520 It was something like seventy or something. Yeah, something some 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.279 crazy amount. So, um, yeah, I think that it's been 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.440 We've taken for granted the fact that we had such 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.640 a young core back there for so long, which meant 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.440 they were young, they were inexpensive, and they had only 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.960 played under this system. There was just a lot to 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.280 that that was very impressive. It was the function of 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:12.920 a couple of good drafts in a rown, a lot 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.200 of second and third draft picks and fourth even if 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.640 you countro On Whitehead and left last year. They just 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:21.280 drafted a lot of defensive backs in the second through 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.440 fourth round range, and most of them worked out and 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.280 that just became your not given for four years, but 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.960 those years are up now, yes, Which does that tell 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.480 something about where this team feels like they can get, 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.400 you know, because we know the Bucks are not going 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:36.600 to be picking super high in any round. Um, does 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.240 it change what they feel like they can get or 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.120 maybe the positions they feel like they can do a 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.640 good job of in those mid rounds based on the 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.640 history of what this team has done. That's a good point. 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:47.480 That's a good point that maybe they're not as worried 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.640 about it because they've seen, Hey, we've gotten offensive linemen 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.520 that weren't first round picks. That and Alm Petting all 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.120 those people. You've gotten all these dvs in later rounds. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.600 So maybe that tells them that it's okay that as 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.600 much as we all love for a higher draft pick 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.040 early on, that that's the downside of making the playoffs, 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.360 is that it's less about your record more about the 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:08.960 fact that you made the playoffs. But maybe they feel 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.440 like those mid round picks can be UM a good one. 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.600 And then we also had some news about Chris Godwin, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.600 which I thought was very exciting. So you want to 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.680 tell everybody about the award he has been voted to. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.600 He was the Buck's choice for the ed Block Courage 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.960 Award for this year. They do that. Each team does 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:24.880 that every year, and then they have I think it's 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.920 in Baltimore, they have a ceremony, and um, there's one 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:32.080 chosen overall. Um, it's it's generally for players who have 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.800 overcome something, and obviously Chris Goddwen did an amazing job 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:39.079 of overcoming is a very significant knee injury from last December, 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.880 to the point that I think Coach Bowles might have 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.680 said this on your show. Um, surprisingly he's not a 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.680 at least a finalist for comeback players. That's what I 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.280 was gonna say. I love that he got the ed 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.520 Block Courage Award, but I really feel like he deserved 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.840 at least a shot, and I almost feel like, this 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:57.800 is my opinion on this, I almost feel like he 0:08:57.840 --> 0:08:59.840 did too good a job of overcoming it, where people, 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.200 for whatever they forgot because it happened so late last 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:05.120 season that it almost felt like it was after the season, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.520 like his whole comeback journey, because he was back Week one. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.200 It's like it almost didn't happen in people's minds because 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.200 it all happened in that off season period when maybe 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.440 you're not paying as much attention, and you saw Chris 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:17.559 Godwin for most of last year and then he came 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:19.360 out and was playing really well. He missed a little 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:20.760 bit early in the year, but almost it's like he 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.079 did so well at it that people were like, we 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:25.600 come back from from what Yeah, yeah, good to start 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.400 last year, is good to start this year. I mean, 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.720 but sae Kwon Berkley, if Sakewon Barkley is a candidate, 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.640 Chris's injury was more significant than his and the season 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.800 was just as good. That was very frustrating to me, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:36.400 But yeah, at least if he's not going to get 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.240 the Comeback Player, I was happy that he got the 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.120 Courage Award, And yeah, I think the awards are maybe 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:44.199 April first and second to announce all of those in Baltimore, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.000 So yeah, I was. I was very happy for him. Um, 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:48.680 but yeah, I just thought that was so interesting that 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.439 I did feel like almost it's like he did too well. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.080 He finished third in the league and catches per game, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.120 which is crazy. He missed two games in half of 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.719 another and still got over a hundred catches. It's incredible. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.400 What you gotta do, ye and it's finely this does 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.360 it really matter? Yeah, I'm sure to Chris and of 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:06.080 all people who is not awards seeking, it's that guy 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.640 that you know all of our dang humbles. It's more 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.040 weird than than upsetting. It's like, why would you know 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:16.040 Smith came back from what not starting? Hey, that's rough. 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:18.800 He had a great year. He debly win the award. 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:20.199 He did have a great year. And I saw that 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.080 Jineau was talking about how he was upset that Carroll 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:25.520 was not one of the Coach Coach of the Year 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.760 ones and that he was like, wait a minute, candidates, 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.240 there are a lot of good candidates, which is going 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:30.719 to be interesting. All right, Well that is going to 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.400 do it for us on this edition of Bucks and 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.120 Senter Live presented by Verizon. Thank you so much for 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.319 joining us. We'll be coming back to you periodically throughout 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:38.960 the off season to make sure you have those questions 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.000 ready for us. Put them underneath our live video on 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.920 the Facebook page. 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