1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk, Boys Talk, presented by Invisilin, trusted 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison. 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: Welcome into Girls Talkboys Talk from Oxnard, California. This is 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: our final podcast from the California portion of training camp 10 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: and for the Girls Talk, It's Breonna Aldridge from CBS eleven. 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: I'm Christy Scale, sideline reporter for the Dallas Cowboys Radio 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: Network and the boy part of Girls Talk, Boy Talk. 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: Jesse Holly, mister fourth and long former Cowboys wide receiver, 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: and Jesse and I are Twinkies. Bree was there last 15 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: night as well, but the world premiere. It was literally 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: a Hollywood, not red carpet, but blue carpet for the 17 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: Netflix series which drops August nineteenth. It's going to be 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: eight episodes. It is America's Team, the Gambler and his Cowboys, 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: Jerry Jones, the entire Jones family, Michael Emmett Troy is 20 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: featured in it. Dion Sanders as well. It's about the 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: nineties cowboys and Bree. You were there along the blue 22 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: carpet as everyone was coming in Jesse and I got 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: a chance to see the show as well. What were 24 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: your thoughts of was it your first Hollywood premiere? 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 4: It was, like you said, blue carpet, It was fun 26 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: to see all the stars coming in. 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 5: You know, some of the national people you see every day. 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 4: That was my first time talking one on one with 29 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: both Michael and Emmett, and I was just like the 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: way they talk, It's like everything they said was like inspiring, right, 31 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: And I asked both of them the same question about 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: you know what do you hope people who like me 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: really who don't remember the Cowboys from the nineties because 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: I was too busy being born what it was like, 35 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: but kill us now, like. 36 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 6: This is who it's for. 37 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 4: Like he's like, you know, both of them, they were 38 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: like it was a different time, the locker rooms were different, 39 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 4: the game was different. And I asked both of them 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 4: if their nineties team and their prime could compete with 41 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: the top teams NFL, and both of those answered has 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: cuss words in it, but very dominantly, yes they can. 43 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see it this series, how it unfolds, 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 4: because I think, like I said, I think this is 45 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 4: what the world needs to see. 46 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 5: I think it's long overdue for the Cowboys. 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it was really cool. 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: The Egyptian theater, Graman's Egyptian Theater right there on Hollywood Boulevard, 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: very old school, old field kind of of Hollywood. And 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: we said there are eight episodes. Now we got to 51 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: see the first ten minutes of episode one and then 52 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: all of episode three, which is basically concentrating on the 53 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: nineteen ninety two NFC Championship game where the upstart Cowboys 54 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 3: go into San Francisco and defeat Steve Young, Bill Romanowski, 55 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: Jerry Rise that era the Bill Walsh San Francisco forty 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: nine ers. But then there are great cutbacks to Jerry 57 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: buying the team and his life from Arkansas and Jesse. 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: What were your thoughts on what you saw on screen? 59 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 7: My initial thoughts were I said to myself, I said, damn, 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 7: he's done it again, meaning Jerry has figured out a 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 7: way to do it again. And unlike Brie, like you remember, 62 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 7: I remember those times right, And so it was something 63 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 7: to be said that we're watching this moment and we 64 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 7: know the outcome, we know the play, we know the score, 65 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 7: we know how it ends. But every moment had me 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 7: on the edge of my seat. And I know people, 67 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 7: I know how, I know how social media gets right. 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 7: There will come on today and they will say, oh, 69 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 7: Jesse and Christian breathe, you're carrying the water for Jerry. 70 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 7: You're being company men and women. And if you know me, 71 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 7: there's nothing about me that ever its company. I do 72 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 7: what I want, say what I want, how I want, 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 7: and just did whatever the consequences are. And I was 74 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 7: so thoroughly impressed at the cinematography, the way that they 75 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 7: put this thing together, the way that they flash back 76 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 7: like we're like the scene took place in the middle 77 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 7: of the NFC Championship game, but you would flash back 78 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 7: to Jerry at Arkansas. You would flash back to Jerry 79 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 7: and his family on his ranch. You would flash back 80 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 7: to telling the story of how you know a lot 81 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 7: of the stories that we know. 82 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 6: But to say about Jimmy Hoffati And. 83 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 7: So it was cinematically it was phenomenal. It was absolutely 84 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 7: this is not me carrying water for the This is 85 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 7: like this is It was like I left and I 86 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 7: was just like I wanted to stay. I want to 87 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 7: show me another one. I want to see another one 88 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 7: because it was that could that impactful. 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's a masterclass in storytelling. And another one of 90 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 3: our cowboy friends from Netflix. From Netflix, Greg Whiteley, who 91 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: was the director of the America Sweethearts, so the cheerleader version. 92 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 3: He was there last night and got to visit with him. 93 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: But it's just the production value, it's absolutely Yeah, they 94 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: did the ones for Jerry's for the for the football part, 95 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: Greg did the one for the cheerleaders. But the way 96 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 3: that they can take so much information and put it 97 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: all together. But here's the thing you talk about saying, oh, 98 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: carry and water for Jerry and the team. Hey, if 99 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: you hate the Cowboys, you'll get a lot out of 100 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: this too. And what did you think of the show itself? 101 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: Bred So I actually didn't see it. I was working 102 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: the outside side doing stuff for TV. Yeah, so I'm 103 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: excited to see it. But I will say hearing what 104 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 4: Jesse said about kind of like that emotional appeal, that's 105 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: exactly what Michael and emmittt both said. They were like, 106 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 4: you know, this is about us, is about our lives, 107 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: and there's things that you know, you're gonna see that 108 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: have never really been seen before, and it brought back 109 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 4: certain emotions to them and they lived it. 110 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 5: So if you're saying that. 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I was there too, I was. I was 112 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: not the sideline reporter in the nineties. I was in 113 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: the radio booth, but I started in ninety one. You 114 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: hear great play calls from Brad Sham. Everything's all mixed 115 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: in and like you say, they sit down and they 116 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: interview Steve Young and Romanowski and Jerry Rice and it's. 117 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 6: Eddie de Bartelow is in it. So and it is. 118 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: It's a masterclass. And I can't recommend it highly enough. 119 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: And the great thing about Netflix is unlike some of 120 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 3: the other streaming services where you have a series and 121 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 3: then there'll be an episode and you have to wait. 122 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 6: A whole week. 123 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: Oh no, Netflix, Jackson, So just just plan the nineteen 124 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: You know that you're going to be up all night. 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, So playing Corda it was. 126 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 7: You know, and to kind of put a bowl on 127 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 7: the night it, you know, being there and having an 128 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 7: immit in the crowd and Michael and the crowd and Michael, 129 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 7: someone who I have a great relationship with. It was 130 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 7: you know, I look at them, and when you heard 131 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 7: Charles Haley speak and you know, on the video and 132 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 7: you watched Troy speak and all the people that were 133 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 7: part of it, there was a feel like you understood 134 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 7: that team. You understood their determination, you understood their their 135 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 7: focus and their swagger, their swagger. They're just there. When 136 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 7: when when Michael uh said that there it was like 137 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 7: I'd rather die before I lose. And when he said it, 138 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 7: you felt it like he said it in the screen 139 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 7: and you was like just watching it, You're like, oh, 140 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 7: y'all really meant that, Like you really meant that. This 141 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 7: This was I was willing to before I lose to 142 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 7: this football team. And you know, and we always want 143 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 7: to compare. It's always about a comparison thing, right like 144 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 7: why is this thirty years drought? And why this team 145 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 7: doesn't Those group of men. I'm just telling you, like, 146 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 7: those group of men are different, are different, and I 147 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 7: know that we evolve and things change, but that group 148 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 7: and not only were there, they different, it was talented group. 149 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 7: Like like we talk about like Alvin Harved like this 150 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 7: afterthought Gova Harbor was the first round pick, you know 151 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 7: what I mean, Like like there was a talented talent 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 7: Charles Haley and you know that that offensive line with 153 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 7: Nate Newton and step But like, that was a talented, 154 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 7: talented group and then they were coached at a such 155 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 7: a level. And I get it times are way different 156 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 7: and how you can coach players and how practices and 157 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 7: stuff go. But but the way Jimmy coached those guys 158 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 7: and the way they responded to Jimmy's coaching, it just 159 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 7: it's it's it's different. Yeah, it's different. 160 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: Well, it was a fun watch and we learned a lot. 161 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: And let's contrast that with Saturday at Sofi Stadium, which 162 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: was not so fun to watch from a Cowboys perspective, 163 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: I would say a lot of coaching points coming out 164 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: of that. But Brie, as you think about Saturday, what 165 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: were a couple of the main points that you took 166 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: from that thirty one twenty one loss to the Rams. 167 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: I will say that I thought, Man Film Film is 168 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 4: gonna be tough for this team when they go back 169 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: in there. But I mean, to be to be fair, 170 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 4: it's preseason, right, I think everyone is like, Oh, it's 171 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 4: just you know, these aren't the starters, this is all 172 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: the backups or what have you. And there was some 173 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 4: guys who were going to get a lot of playing time. 174 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 4: They were out there, but I think if anything was concerning, 175 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: they were also the Rams also had the backups out right, 176 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 4: so I'm looking at that as well. But I think 177 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 4: the biggest thing to see what we're all watching is 178 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: how how does Joel Milton go out there and hand 179 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 4: an engineer in this offense? The beginning of the game, 180 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: I was just like, it just looks so chaotic. He 181 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 4: just love, it's just not comfortable. You were hoping they would, 182 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: you know, get in some type of run game so 183 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 4: he could get comfortable and start flinging that ball around, 184 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 4: and that's just not what happened. Like the three and out, 185 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 4: they didn't get their first touchdown to the fourth quarter, 186 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 4: So they had. 187 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: One total yard of offense in the first quarter. Yeah, 188 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: and so much for establishing a run game and they 189 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: go six straight throws. 190 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 191 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: So that offensively that was and then it just looked 192 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: like you go the other side of the wall, the 193 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 4: run defense, same issues. It looked like to me there 194 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 4: was a lot of double team happening to that interior 195 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: defensive line for US. One on ones weren't being met 196 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: for the edges, and it was just some of the 197 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: stuff that was seeing in the joint practice kind of 198 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 4: transferred over to be honest, So you were kind of hoping, 199 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: and we talked about it that that was gonna be 200 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: We know it was gonna be about schemeing, it was 201 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: gonna be about individual matchups, and I just felt like, 202 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: again it went to the rams we're talking to, who 203 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: was winning majority of individual matchup. 204 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 5: It wasn't all bad. 205 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: I did see flashes from certain people, and I know 206 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: we'll talk about those in a second, So there was 207 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: some good things to come out of it. But yeah, 208 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 4: a lot of the issues that we saw in the 209 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: joint practice I saw transfer over to Saturday and Jesse. 210 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 3: Before getting your specific thoughts from the game itself, rementioned 211 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: you know, all going in and the meetings and watching 212 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: film from something like that, your perspective, because you've been 213 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 3: one of these guys that has been battling for a 214 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: roster spot and just need in every rip that you 215 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: can get in a game. 216 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 6: What's it like from that perspective. 217 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: And then you go into the meeting afterwards or the 218 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: film session after the. 219 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 7: Foremost when you're talking about from a personal perspective is, 220 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 7: you know, you try to do what your time it is, right, 221 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 7: and that's what football is. It's eleven individual assignments hoping 222 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 7: to be done collectively at the same time. Right, So 223 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 7: you hope first that I do what I was supposed 224 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 7: to do. And sometimes, as I as a receiver, I 225 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 7: can't help if the offensive line blocked or not. I 226 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 7: can't help if the quarterback made the right read or not, 227 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 7: or through the ball we're supposed to. What I can 228 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 7: control is if my route was supposed to be a 229 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 7: twelve yard curl, then I go twelve yards and curl, 230 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 7: right Like, is that the part that I was supposed 231 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 7: to do? If coach watch film, did I win my 232 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 7: individual battle? And that's why you know, you'll hear coaches say, well, 233 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 7: that's why they have coaches, because my rode receiver, coach 234 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 7: is looking for me to do a certain thing, My 235 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 7: officer courter is looking for me to do a certain thing. 236 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 7: And so when they go back to evaluate film, they're 237 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 7: looking at it as a whole, right, because that's their job, 238 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 7: but also individually, all right, we ask this guy to 239 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 7: do X, Y and Z, did he accomplish the mission? 240 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 7: We'll handle the rest of the stuff, but can we 241 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 7: trust him to go out there and do that part. 242 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 7: So for the guys in these games, it's, you know, 243 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 7: do your job first and then we'll coach the rest 244 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 7: of it to make it come together as a unit. 245 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 7: So you know, you want to focus first on that, 246 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 7: and then the team part of it all is is, 247 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 7: you know, how can I help What's the next thing 248 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 7: that I can do to maybe help the quarterback do 249 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 7: that or help the running game better? Did I get 250 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 7: all my blocks where I'm perfect on my reads? Was 251 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 7: there some sort of sight adjustment that I missed or 252 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 7: made in those particular things? So you're looking for that, 253 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 7: but you know, and then ultimately, yeah, you want to 254 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 7: make a player too. You want to go out there 255 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 7: and make a player too, and flash and go see 256 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 7: I can do this. I can't make the blocks, I 257 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 7: can't make the catches. I can do these things. Because 258 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 7: ultimately that's what the coaches want to see. They want 259 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 7: to see who can go out there and make a play. 260 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 7: But lining up, assignment, alignment, depth, splits, all those things 261 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 7: are so vitally important. That's what they go and watch 262 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 7: when they go and watch film, when they're looking at 263 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 7: all right, can we trust this guy on Sunday? Right? 264 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 7: If you can't line up right, that's a line one, hey, 265 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 7: break the huddle? Know what a hell a line up at? Right? 266 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 7: If you can't do that, If I can't trust you 267 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 7: to run ten yards and out because the rock requires 268 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 7: you to run ten yards and out, or if I 269 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 7: can't trust you that, hey, this time, this route might 270 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 7: not be for you. But if you don't run like 271 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 7: hell on the outside to clear that side out. So 272 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 7: we have this overall coming underneath it and you halfway 273 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 7: through it and now you clut it up that area. 274 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 7: I can't trust you, right, I can't trust you out 275 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 7: there with CD. I need him to get open, but 276 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 7: I need you to run this. We called for the 277 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 7: love of the game route for this particular time. So 278 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 7: those are the things that didn't look at going and in tear, 279 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 7: and you wanted to make sure as an individual that 280 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 7: you've done your job correctly and efficiently so that they 281 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 7: can see that, and that then yields for them to 282 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 7: give you some more playing time and some more playing. 283 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: Rep right, and then on a so that's individually from 284 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: a macro level, the six pre snap penalties and then 285 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: bring you talked about some of the things that looked 286 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: like some of the same issues from the joint practice 287 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: last week. Defensively, well, everybody just not staying low and 288 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: just good leverage and pad level you know which, and 289 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: when they say last week, keeping your eyes below the 290 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: chin right, make sure you're staying low well. When we 291 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: come back after this break, what I want is for Jesse, 292 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: if you wouldn't mind, I'd love for you to break 293 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: down what we saw from the young riber's and what 294 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: strides you think that they made in that game, and 295 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: we'll do that right after this. 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And Jesse, we promised going into the 352 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: break that you would break down what you saw from 353 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: the wide receivers in Saturday nights thirty one to twenty 354 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 3: one lost to the Rams. 355 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 6: What stood out to you? 356 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, the first and foremost is like when you're watching, 357 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 7: you know you're watching it, And I remember playing in 358 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 7: games where it's different from practice, right, Joe Milton, will 359 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 7: Grire and those guys they have unlimited time, right, so 360 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 7: even when they feel like they may be sacked, I 361 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 7: still kind of finished running my route and I get 362 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 7: a chance to catch the ball. But in the games 363 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 7: that doesn't necessarily happen. What I did see, you know, 364 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 7: my focus when I came into this game. I did 365 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 7: want to see what Jayalen Tober did. I did. I 366 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 7: did want to see what the guys who were fighting 367 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 7: for those number three spots, right mingo, and I wanted 368 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 7: to see Ryan Filoinoy and then the one kid who's 369 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 7: been having a really good camp is Trey Shawn Holden. Yes, right, 370 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 7: And so you know, but we also have to understand, 371 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 7: like what happens in practice being able to take that 372 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 7: and translate it to the game. And I saw a 373 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 7: lot of good things from the receivers winning at the 374 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 7: line of scrimmage, right. I talked about getting into your 375 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 7: routes and your depth. A lot of good things of that. 376 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 7: The problem is is that when you're when you're again 377 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 7: from the receiver position, we're counting for so many others 378 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 7: to do their job for us to get the ball. 379 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 7: And you know, one of the issues that Joe Milton 380 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 7: has had in his career is just his his inaccuracy, 381 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 7: and and you saw that on display. But there was 382 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 7: a lot of good things. Man. There was a couple 383 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 7: double moves that were open. There was he missed a touchdown. 384 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 7: Joe Milton missed a guy wide open for a touchdown. 385 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 7: Uh in there. So the receivers were doing a lot 386 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 7: of good things right. 387 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 6: Like Flnoy he was wide deep on the. 388 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 7: Deep over right. It's like that, that's the one that 389 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 7: you gotta just com your noise, calm the feet, calm 390 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 7: yourself and just deliver it. That's a big play waiting 391 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 7: to happen. And that's a route that when you look 392 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 7: at this Cowboys offense, is a staple in this offense. 393 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 7: It's a staple in a lot of NFL offenses where 394 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 7: excuse me, where that deep over is coming. You want 395 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 7: get the ball into the hand of the receivers early 396 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 7: so he can try up the field. So a lot 397 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 7: of good things that I saw at the line of scrims, 398 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 7: a lot of good things that I saw with getting 399 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 7: your depths getting there, and then you know, it's just 400 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 7: unfortunate that a lot of it wasn't rewarded with. And 401 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 7: this is no knock against Joe or Will or anybody, 402 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 7: but that was just the nature of the Beasts. And 403 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 7: it happens that way sometime in training camp. I mean 404 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 7: it's in preseason. 405 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: I tell you, I was talking with CD on the 406 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: sideline before the game, and you know, we knew the 407 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: starters weren't gonna play. Jalen Tolbert and Hunter Lipkey, depending 408 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: on if they opened in eleven or twelve, you know, 409 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 3: they would be you know, starters, those were the only two. 410 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 9: No. 411 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 3: Lipkey didn't, he didn't, he didn't play. So, Jalen Tolbert, 412 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 3: who's your third receiver? I mean he was the only 413 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: one of like the normal starters that played. But do 414 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: you think that any of the young receivers did enough 415 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: to separate themselves or to really notch up one or 416 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: two or just because they didn't get the ball delivered 417 00:20:59,200 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 3: to No. 418 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 7: And here's a thing that, like, being a backup is 419 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 7: more than just receiver. And this is the thing that 420 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 7: we missed a lot of times, right, Like what else 421 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 7: can you Because we consistently talk about making the fifty three, well, great, 422 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 7: making the fifty three is great, You gotta make the 423 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 7: forty six because on game day they're only handing out 424 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 7: forty six jerseys, right, And so how do I get 425 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 7: that number? And so when you start breaking it down 426 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 7: and looking at the totality of it, well, I know, 427 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 7: I gotta have nine offensive linemen, right, an offensive lineman 428 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 7: that's buyer NFL rules. So those guys are getting jerseys. 429 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 7: And now I gotta have a certain amount of linebackers 430 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 7: and defensive linemen and cornerbacks depending on who you're playing 431 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 7: and what the scheme is for that particular week, and 432 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 7: you have to come down to the decision. Why should 433 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 7: I give you a game day jersey? What do you 434 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 7: present to us? What are you giving us that requires 435 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 7: you to have a jersey on game day? And if 436 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 7: you just being the number four wide receiver, the number 437 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 7: five wide receiver, that's not enough, right. And that's one 438 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 7: of the things that when you talk about Jalen Tobert, right, 439 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 7: can you run down on kickoff? Can you run down 440 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 7: on punt? Can you cover a punt? You don't? 441 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 6: And the guy like Jalen Brooks is your guy. 442 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 7: Brooks right, So those are the type of thing that 443 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 7: you want to see in addition to you being a 444 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 7: wide receiver. 445 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why it was so bad from the 446 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 3: perspective of your backup running backs and your backup defensive backs. 447 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: Who heck not if you're the number three, four or 448 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 3: five guy, but the number two on the depth chart 449 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: for running back is going to have to play teams 450 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 3: unless you see k Elliott or and especially the defensive backs. 451 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: I mean, these are core guys. So Nick Sorenson, who 452 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: is the Cowboys special teams coordinator, yesterday lamented the fact 453 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: that the dearth of running backs so many injuries there 454 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: that he couldn't get an evaluation on a guy like 455 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 3: Jaden Blue to see what he could do in terms 456 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: of helping on special teams because and I don't just mean, 457 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: you know, some reach earned, which Jayden did at Texas, 458 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 3: but you know he's having to play coverage. 459 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, you've got to be a gunner, you gotta be 460 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 7: a you know, you gotta be a wing, a personal protector, 461 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 7: like all those positions matter in these games. 462 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 6: I mentioned running back. 463 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: What stood out to you, Bree in regards to that 464 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 3: at least at least duce Vaughn was back and got 465 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: a little bit of work. 466 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw some stuff from him. 467 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 4: And I think when we're talking about just overall, like 468 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: a duce Vaughn, a Keemon Hall, right, guys who have 469 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 4: been here and you're kind of looking for. 470 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 5: Like that jazz. 471 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 4: Like at the end of the day, these aren't starters 472 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: out there, So I feel like they have to start 473 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 4: to do impressive stuff in these preseason games for them 474 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: to really solidify themselves on this team. The running back group, 475 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 4: especially talking about Ducevon, I think he's been I don't 476 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: want to say disappearing, but he's got some guys on 477 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 4: him and I'm not going to get too carried away 478 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: with on the Malik Davis train like everyone else. 479 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 7: That's an impressive. That's an impressive to him. 480 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 6: He could have pouted after getting leased by the cow. 481 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 5: Right, was it like to it was the two days 482 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 5: prior to. 483 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: Well, he showed up on Friday morning, gets signed from Yeah, 484 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: practices a bit on Friday, and then it leads the 485 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: team with sixty three. 486 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 7: Ready so you don't have to get ready. 487 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 3: Right Yeah, so you may not be on the train, 488 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 3: I'm not, but but I was like your overall thoughts 489 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 3: on running back though, Yeah, the. 490 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 4: Whole I mean film off. Obviously he had some flashes. Definitely, 491 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 4: the guys this is what it's a little cliche, but. 492 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 5: They came in. 493 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 4: They took advantage of the opportunities. Right, you have a 494 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 4: Miles Sanders who's down right now. You're not gonna put 495 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 4: a Javonte Williams down in a group that's already limping 496 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: when they're going in. So I felt like those guys 497 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: I went in there had some good moments. 498 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 6: Dou Spawn. 499 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: You know, I wish I would have saw a little 500 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: bit more of that, you know that from him if 501 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 4: you will, because I just think he's got some competition 502 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 4: coming real close underneath him. So it's gonna be very 503 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: like a much like the wide receiver position I was 504 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: I said last week, I'd be if Jalen Tolbert was 505 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 4: out there. I feel like that would tell us a 506 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: lot of what the coaches are, you know, how close 507 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 4: that competition actually is. So I was surprised to see 508 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 4: Jalen Tolbert out there as much as we did. And 509 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: then tray shot Holden is one of the camp favorites. 510 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 4: You know, he goes in the second half, and Brian 511 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: Schotenheimer after the game said, literally said that he earned 512 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: himself to get in there to move up in the 513 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 4: depth chat. We're talking about the preseason game and how 514 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: he's moving up. So I thought that was something eye opening, 515 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: even though, like Jesse said, this doesn't mean like, you know, 516 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 4: he's solidified in a certain spot, but I think he's 517 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: catching attention and he's being consistent. Something else that Schottenheimer 518 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 4: has said, you know, he can't just have a wide 519 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 4: receiver who has one good day or you know, two 520 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 4: days out of the week. He needs someone who's coming 521 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 4: here and being consistent. And I think that's something that 522 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 4: Holden's specifically is showing. So now let's see what the 523 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 4: running back. And we've got two more preseason games, right, 524 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 4: we know who's not gonna be on the field, so 525 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: interested to see who's well. 526 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 3: Now, now here's a let me ask this, did what 527 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: we see what we saw on Saturday, Jesse, change your 528 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: mind or have you predict if we see the starters 529 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: in any series these last two games. 530 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 7: Starters. When you say. 531 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 3: Star, I mean I mean Dak, I mean Dak and 532 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 3: c D and George and and Tyler Smith and Cooper. 533 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 7: Some of those, right, like some of those. But if 534 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 7: I'm being totally honest, and Christy you've been You've been 535 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 7: here long enough to know this is that some of 536 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 7: those decisions don't necessarily always lie in the hands of 537 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 7: Brian Schottheimer. When you're talking about guys like Dak Prescott, 538 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 7: you're talking about guys like c D. Lamp right, those 539 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 7: guys who who the the. 540 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: The hey, CD can't even stay healthy when it's not 541 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: getting freaking truck mansie. 542 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 7: I do think, I do think after seeing that game, 543 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 7: and and you know, and and and coach shotty is 544 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 7: is one who I'm not saying that he has rabbit ears, 545 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 7: but he hears right, like he is very very aware 546 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 7: of what people are saying. And I think having that 547 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 7: many guys last week not play in the preseason game, 548 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 7: especially we're talking about guys like Tyler Booker, right, like 549 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 7: Sam Williams, Cavante Turpin, like there are certain level guys 550 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 7: you go. 551 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 6: I was shocked when Booker walked out and didn't have his. 552 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 7: Pets, Like hold on, now, I'm like, what world do 553 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 7: we live in now where a healthy rookie gets to 554 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 7: not playing preseason games like you know, I'm again, I'm 555 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 7: from the school where the rookies go out there and 556 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 7: you don't come out until you throw up like that. 557 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 7: That's how many refs that you get like that, Like 558 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 7: that's how it goes, Like you, what have you done? 559 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 7: You've done nothing to stand next to Tyler Smith on 560 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 7: the sideline in the preseason game one. You've done nothing 561 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 7: to stand next to Dak Prescott in preseason game number one. 562 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 7: You should be out there. So I think from that perspective, 563 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 7: you're going to see Shoddy kind of take a different 564 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 7: approach to it this go around, and you'll see a 565 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 7: lot of those guys out there CD, Dak maybe not 566 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 7: though I would like to though. I would like to 567 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 7: see those guys out there for series or two, you know, 568 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 7: because to play football is to get better at it, 569 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 7: like you want to get better at it. The reps 570 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,719 Speaker 7: to come together in those situations. So but I get it, 571 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 7: I get it. You know, Jerry's talked about it. I 572 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 7: don't want to pay these guys all this money and 573 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 7: they get hurt, you know, So I get that part. 574 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 7: But I think we're going to see a much larger 575 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 7: contingency of players playing this week against the Philadelphia that's 576 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 7: a couple weeks away. I guess the Baltimore Raven. I'm 577 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 7: already gave like to get the week. 578 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 3: One before we take our break because I want to 579 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: talk defense coming out of the next break. But Jesse, 580 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: do you have Joe Milton taken all the snaps the 581 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: rest of the way or do you see Will Career 582 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: getting a little more. 583 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 7: We went down this road a little bit with Cooper 584 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 7: Rush and the Trey Lance situation, right, and I get 585 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 7: that they have to evaluate, but you know, Cooper Rush 586 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 7: even said he goes, I know that we were evaluating trade. 587 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 7: But I needed some of those reps, you know, I 588 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 7: need it. I needed some of that, some of that 589 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 7: preseason and get myself to rust off myself and get 590 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 7: myself together. I think that you're going to see still 591 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 7: see a lot more of Joe in this game. But 592 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 7: I do think Will will come in before the fourth quarter. 593 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 7: I do think you'll see I think you'll see Will earlier. Okay, wow, 594 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 7: yeah we saw last week. 595 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, in the locker room after the game, after that 596 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: nice touchdown run, I'm like Lamar Jackson out. 597 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 6: There game, he just rolled his eyes like I don't 598 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 6: think so. 599 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, hey, they all count the same amount of 600 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 3: points for a touchdown. All right. 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We want to focus on the 655 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: defense and by I'll start with you whether you want 656 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: to start with a highlight or a low light impressions 657 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: of the defense in their first preseason game action. 658 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 5: I'll start with the positive, Okay, I'll start there. 659 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 4: I think if there was a game ball perhaps to 660 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 4: be given out, I would probably give it to Marris 661 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: lea foul. I just think going into a second year, 662 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 4: he's doing everything you want to see. That man was 663 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: flashing everything. He looked like his just football. 664 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 5: IQ has just gone up. 665 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: He's just playing the gaps well overthinking it wasn't I 666 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: saw like a few things here and there, but I 667 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 4: think overall everybody just wanted him to get out and 668 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 4: protect him, put him in bubble wrap. We're trying to 669 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 4: figure out why he was out there as long as 670 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 4: he was, but I'm very excited to see what he's doing. 671 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 5: Some of the other linebackers, though, I think, struggled. 672 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 7: Kind of just put a little bit added to that 673 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 7: to the Mary's leith. I got a chance to talk 674 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 7: to Mary, and I think you were standing right there 675 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 7: with him. We were talking to Maris at the girls 676 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 7: flag football game. And the thing that he talked about 677 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 7: being in this offense, he said, this feels like how 678 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 7: I played in college. So he says, I feel so 679 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 7: much more comfortable. It's a lot less thinking for me. 680 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 7: And that's not me saying that. He feels like he 681 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 7: can't figure this stuff out here. You know, to day 682 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 7: it's pretty good. Your Day recruited me till they came 683 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 7: in and saw my transcript and they was like, you 684 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 7: know what, you might not be cut out for us academically, Holly. 685 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 7: But Marris talked about he said, you know, under this, 686 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 7: under matt Ebosus and this defense, I am more free flowing. 687 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 7: My mind is at ease. I can play fast. And 688 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 7: so to your point, you're seeing Mary Leah Foul go 689 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 7: out there and play no point attendant like his hair 690 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 7: is on five because the way he wears his hair. 691 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 7: But he's playing fast, he's playing free. And you know 692 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 7: he spoke about that to me a two months ago. 693 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the reason why I love Marris 694 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 3: she's talking about at the girls flag football event. So 695 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: that was the game Saturday night. He was one of 696 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: the highlights for the shore of the Cowboys. We got back. 697 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: That was a four o'clock kickoff Pacific time out here 698 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 3: in California. We got back on the team buses. We 699 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: were back here and Oxnard about nine to forty five. 700 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: The next morning at eight am, Maris Leah Foul and 701 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 3: Buddy Johnson, fellow linebacker, we're out here for a kid's 702 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 3: flag football event. That are that Whitney Faulkner and Danny 703 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 3: McCrae and put on out here. So they got up 704 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: after a long day. Then those two guys played a 705 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: lot on Saturday. But that speaks to the kind of 706 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 3: people that they are. So while teammates might have been 707 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 3: sleeping in or you know, maybe had some fun after 708 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 3: the getting back to Oxnarn. That's Marris Lea Foul and 709 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 3: the other one more Marris Lea Foul story. We did 710 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: a deal. This was last year as a rookie. The 711 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 3: rookie group came in and we were It was at 712 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 3: the Ford Center, the indoor practice field at the Star 713 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: and Frisco and it was for local elementary school, and 714 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: it was for integrating the special needs kids with their 715 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 3: classmates and kind of pe activities. So there was like 716 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 3: throwing the football, and there was running, and the Dallas 717 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: Cowboys cheerleaders were there, and there was one for dancing 718 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 3: and Maris. Each rookie was assigned to a different thing, 719 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 3: and Marist is over there with the cheerleaders, and bless his. 720 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 6: Heart, he's over there dancing. 721 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 3: And once once those little it was boys and girls, 722 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: little kids elementary school. Once those boys saw that the 723 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 3: Cowboy linebacker marys Lea Foul was dancing, they danced too. 724 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 3: So that's just the good, good, good good person. 725 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, that he is. 726 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 3: So I know we got off on Himarslia because so 727 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 3: so that was a high light, but definitely not everything 728 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 3: was a highlight. 729 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 4: No, I guess I'll start with the cornerbacks. I think 730 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 4: again that's been a question mark that we've been talking about. 731 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 4: The first half was Andrew Booth's Dion Children's and I didn't. 732 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 5: See a lot of positives. I just feel like. 733 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 4: The rams kind of were able to do whatever they 734 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 4: wanted basically, But a lot of that also starts up front. 735 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 4: I saw a lot of double teams happening with our 736 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 4: interior alignment. Over half the reps looked like it was, 737 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 4: you know, going toward the rams. 738 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 5: I saw some. 739 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 4: Donovan Azrokuho. I saw him win some battles on the edge, 740 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 4: but lose some battles. So we said we were going 741 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 4: to keep an eye. You know, that's what you expect 742 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 4: at this point. So some good some bad there. I 743 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 4: noted Perry on Winfrey with someone. I felt like he 744 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 4: also didn't win all his one on ones, but I 745 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 4: felt like his energy, I like fa flashed a couple 746 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 4: of time. Yeah, like there was some good things there. 747 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 4: I think I have just nickel spot question mark that 748 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 4: was on my note. I think that's one of what 749 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 4: they're looking at right now. I don't think I don't 750 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 4: think they have an answer. 751 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 6: I think the. 752 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: Whole secondary, you know, Keemon Hall, I thought Childres did 753 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 3: some okay things, I really did. But yeah, the defensive 754 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: back situation, Jesse and Robert Rochelle going down early in 755 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 3: that game with a hamstring. That was actually the first 756 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: series and he was going to get a very long look, 757 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 3: So that was very disappointing. But what did you think 758 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 3: of the secondary play? 759 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 7: Not good not good when you when you think about 760 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 7: the way that the Rams marched up and down the 761 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 7: football field right both running and passing the ball, and 762 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 7: you know, they had receivers wide open. And you know, 763 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 7: we're not talking about this being Pola Nikola when I'm 764 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 7: talking about this being Davante Adam. We're talking about this 765 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 7: is their backups too. Yeah, And the difference is that 766 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 7: the guys that we're watching and evaluating the way our 767 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 7: injury situation is happening right now with the cornerback position, 768 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 7: these are guys who are potentially going to be out 769 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 7: there Thursday night against Philadelphia, And you think about, you know, yeah, 770 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 7: I know, you know, I know Doron Blam will be 771 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 7: out there, but Doron Bland can't cover AJ Brown and 772 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 7: can't cover Davonte Smith at the same time. And so 773 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 7: you look at that and you're saying, man, we have 774 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 7: a lot of questions. And the biggest thing that comes 775 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 7: out of these games is we enter training camp with 776 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 7: these questions about cornerback, about defensive you know lineman, about 777 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 7: offensive lineman, and we've yet to get a positive answer 778 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 7: to these questions. 779 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 3: Right as ween there are two more practices after today, right, so. 780 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 7: Like like we're heading back. We're headed back to Frisco 781 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 7: at the end of this week. And the question marks, 782 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 7: as you said, you said your notes, I got a 783 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 7: big question mark on Nickel, Like, the question still remains. 784 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 7: Are there going to be a good enough group of 785 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 7: guys to march out there for a week one of 786 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 7: the season. And I know it's a long season, but 787 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 7: this is a group that we don't have answers for. 788 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 7: We don't know when Rubble's gonna be back, We don't 789 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 7: know when Digg's gonna be back. Right. They have one timeline, 790 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 7: they say one thing, a guy has a setback, they 791 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 7: have another timeline, another timeline, and then it moves again. 792 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 7: So it's a huge question. And these guys didn't leave 793 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 7: any coaches with the level of confidence that you know, 794 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 7: leaving that game they felt better about the position. 795 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 6: Let me add one more question in there for you. 796 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: Then, do you think that the third, fourth, or fifth 797 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 3: cornerback as it would lay out on the depth chart 798 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: for the opener September, is in Cowboys camp right now? 799 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: Or do you think that he's on another roster and 800 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 3: Cowboys are maybe gonna pick him off. I don't necessarily 801 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 3: mean with the trade. I mean, they're gonna be scouring 802 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: that waiver wire and my guess would be making claims 803 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 3: of defensive back O line. That's how it works in 804 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: the league. We talked about it last week. You are 805 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 3: auditioning in these preseason games, not just for your team, 806 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 3: but for thirty one other teams in the league. 807 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 5: Exactly. 808 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 7: I agree with you. They're not on this roster. The 809 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 7: cornerback that the corner one of the cornerbacks that we 810 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 7: will probably march out with week one is currently not 811 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 7: in Oxnard, California. I believe that. 812 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 3: Let me ask you for your positives. Jesse, we talked 813 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: about Marist a little bit earlier. Were there some other 814 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,760 Speaker 3: young guys or a position group that you thought, okay, 815 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: it was a little bit. 816 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 6: Better than I thought. 817 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 7: You mentioned them Zion Childress he popped out, and a 818 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 7: friend of mine and a coworker by Jeff Kavanaugh. We were 819 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 7: watching the game together and you know, we kind of 820 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 7: both with each other sometime. It was like forty eight, right, 821 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 7: because the number sticks out right as a playoffs it 822 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 7: sticks out. 823 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 6: On Mark's When when did Moose Johnston become a corner. 824 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 7: I'm like, what a ill number? And but but it 825 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 7: stood out because of the number. I was like, stank number. 826 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 7: But I was looking. I was like, you know what, 827 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 7: this guy is showing up. So I think a guy 828 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 7: like Zion Childress could possibly earn hisself some more opportunities 829 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 7: during practice to go back to the offensive side. Uh 830 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 7: And and I'm stealing this from Jeff as well because 831 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 7: we talk a lot of it. But he talked about, 832 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 7: you know, Nate Thomas, you know, Nate Thomas having. 833 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 6: Some having left tackle, left tackle. 834 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 7: Right, and he was just talking about He's like, man, 835 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 7: you know because again you're you're evaluating technique, You're evaluating, 836 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 7: you know, how does this guy get off the line? 837 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 7: How was he holding it down? And Nate had played 838 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 7: about ten snaps and we talked about that, and he 839 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 7: was like, you know what, Nate Thomas is the guy 840 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 7: that you know, if Tyler Goyton doesn't get itself back 841 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 7: soon enough, you know, you get while he pipped around here, 842 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 7: you know, because guys are trying to find those you know, 843 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 7: those pasions to start. But then I enjoyed watching Phil MafA. 844 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 7: I enjoy watching film MafA. I thought his paths were high. 845 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 7: Coaches talked about that. 846 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 6: But when you're back. 847 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 3: Well, really, anybody, you got to stay low because everybody 848 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: else they'll get their pads under you and you're going down. 849 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 6: That's how strong you are. If you don't have the leverage, 850 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 6: you're going down. 851 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 7: But looking at phild like he had some juice, he 852 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 7: had some bursts. I like. I like the size of Phil, 853 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 7: Like when you look at him, like he fits his 854 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 7: uniform good, like he feels it out good. 855 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's like milk. 856 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 7: You want him to get off the bus first, you know, 857 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 7: like when you pull up, like, hey, you get off 858 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 7: the bus first, you Tyler Smith, couple of y'all get 859 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 7: off the bus first. Intimidations. But he had some juice, 860 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 7: he had some good vision. Again, I want to keep 861 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 7: his pads down a little bit more. But the way 862 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 7: that he was running the football, I was like, you know, 863 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,600 Speaker 7: I'm I'm not a posed to sing a little bit 864 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 7: more of what Phil MafA can do. He uh, he 865 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 7: picked my interest. I'm not saying that he's going to 866 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 7: be the guy, but Phil coming out of that preseason 867 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 7: game piqued my interest and I'm looking forward to seeing 868 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 7: some of that physical style running against a physical style 869 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 7: team in the Baltimore Ravens this upcoming week. 870 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 3: I like the way you say peaud my interest because 871 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 3: we have just a couple of minutes left here Again, 872 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,479 Speaker 3: this is our final podcast for Girls Boys Talk from 873 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 3: out here in Auxnard. 874 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 6: We arrived on. 875 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 3: July twentieth, so it was full twenty six days by 876 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 3: the time we pull up stakes and head back on Thursday. So, 877 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: of what you've seen, of all of these practices of 878 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 3: the first preseason game, what has peaked your interest the most? 879 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 3: And it doesn't have to be positive. I mean it 880 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 3: may be maybe like, oh, may have caught your attention 881 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 3: in a not so good way, but bre what has 882 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 3: really stood out for you this camp? Well, it could 883 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 3: be a player or a position group or whatever. 884 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 10: I think. 885 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,920 Speaker 4: Honestly, what I was hoping to see and I didn't 886 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 4: see was Kyriel, Like that is someone who's been shining 887 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 4: at camp. It's someone who I've covered previously. I had 888 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 4: a quick conversation with someone who's worked with him in Buffalo, 889 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,399 Speaker 4: and when I'm telling him he didn't play the preseason game, 890 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 4: he was like like shocked because he's like, are they 891 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 4: that certain that he's that guy? 892 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 5: Because he wasn't. 893 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,959 Speaker 4: It's just not the it's night and day from what 894 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 4: was happening in Buffalo. So I'm hoping that he's on 895 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 4: the list next to Tyler Booker and seeing like even 896 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 4: ten snaps for Nate Thomas, I was hoping to see 897 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 4: some more of him. So I'm hoping that we see 898 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 4: some kyrielem because I've seen this story before and then 899 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 4: I've seen it not transferring games like super rooting for 900 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 4: this guy, super great human. I always he was always 901 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 4: one of the last ones to leave practice when he 902 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 4: wasn't getting that playing time. 903 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 5: But I just think with this with the biggest question mark, 904 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 5: one of the biggest question marks. 905 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 4: The cornerback room, and not seeing how he's metching, I 906 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 4: don't want to see what he looks like week one 907 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 4: in Philly. 908 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 5: Like with not he's not he's not a proven. 909 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 6: Guy yet yet. 910 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 3: Well Bill Parcells would always say confidence comes from demonstrated 911 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 3: ability and have there been some good practices, yes, but 912 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 3: it's not it's not game action. 913 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 6: So that's what. 914 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 4: I'm looking for preseason Game two. I'm hoping Shawnheimer is 915 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 4: going to give us some more looks of some other 916 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 4: people that we didn't see. 917 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 7: Jesse, you know, Christy, I came into this training camp, 918 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 7: and I'm not to be a pessimist looking for answers. 919 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 7: I came in wanting, like, you don't tell me about CD, right, 920 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 7: I know, I know CD. He's gonna be fine. Right, 921 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 7: don't tell me about certain guys. I know what they're 922 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 7: gonna be. I know what they're going to be. But 923 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 7: I came into this training camp with so many questions 924 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 7: about what is this football team going to be? What 925 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 7: is the identity? You know, how is this Shoddy's talked 926 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,839 Speaker 7: so much about this culture, how we're going to change 927 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 7: the culture, and this culture change, And as we're on 928 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 7: the brink of breaking camp and heading back to ox start, 929 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 7: none of those questions for me have been answered. You know, 930 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 7: you watched the first preseason game. You watch the joint practices, 931 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 7: and the same things are still a thorn in the 932 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 7: Cowboy side, the lack of physicalness up front, offensively and defensively. 933 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 7: We watched that game. Eleven penalties. This team for the 934 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 7: last couple of years have been just utterly ridiculous when 935 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 7: it comes to discipline and penalties in the game. The 936 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 7: first time you get a chance to go out there, 937 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 7: eleven penalties. Eleven penalties and one from your star receiver 938 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 7: who doesn't understand about being in the white. I get it, 939 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 7: it was a mistake, but it's those it's the small things. 940 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 7: Those are the determining factors of a team winning a 941 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 7: game and losing a game. Right had you go down 942 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 7: and you know, Phil MafA two really good runs in 943 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 7: the red zone but negated because your left tackle can't 944 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,919 Speaker 7: get up on the line of scrimmage after being told 945 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,719 Speaker 7: one time, you line back up and you're off the 946 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 7: ball again, and now you get another pick. So those 947 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 7: type of things, you know, I'm surprised. Thing that surprising 948 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 7: my interest is that we haven't gotten answers. We haven't 949 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 7: gotten answers. And you know, for a team that we're 950 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 7: looking at talking about having one of the toughest schedules 951 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 7: in the season, you know, in schedule in the NFL 952 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 7: this year, they haven't shown anything that makes me believe 953 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 7: that they're ready to take that on and be successful. 954 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 955 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 3: I mean the eleven penalty six of them were pre 956 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 3: snap as you mentioned, you know, with some of the. 957 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 7: And that's that's not lining up again. So do you 958 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 7: still a Jason Garrett tern Line number one, he said, 959 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 7: Line umber one protect the ball, but line number one. 960 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 7: Learn what to line up, like, learn how to line up. 961 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 7: If you can't do that, then we can't play football. 962 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 3: Alignment assignment execution. Hopefully we'll see some starting Saturday with 963 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 3: the preseason home opener against Baltimore. We thank everyone for 964 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 3: watching and listening to these podcasts over the last three 965 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 3: and a half weeks here from Oxnard, Girls Talk, Boys Talk. 966 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 6: Will be back. 967 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 3: Next week and it'll be from the comfy confines of 968 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 3: the studio there at the Star. 969 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 6: Jesse, thank you so much for dropping in. 970 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,919 Speaker 3: The boy of our Girls Talk, Boy Talk, Gree, thank 971 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,880 Speaker 3: you so much everyone, thanks for watching. 972 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 6: We'll see you next week from Frisco. 973 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 974 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,240 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys football Clubs.