1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast has no fear of Miko Grinds. 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Podcast presented by New Era. My name is Dan Ansers 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: and I am joined by Room Building, some of heroes, 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Colleen Wolf. What's our people? What's happening? 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: You know it? 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The last four or five 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: shows we've done on first on Tuesday and now Wednesday 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: are all there. I believe archived. Is that correct? Erica tampose? 29 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: We got a thumbs up. That's good. That's all right. 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: Coming up today, guys, our training Camp Spotlight series rolls on. 31 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Very exciting. We're gonna talk about uh two games coming 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: up on NFL network airwaves, including j Cutler's debut. Uh 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: the Chargers. They're trying to uh establish a foothold in 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and they had a unique promotion that involved 35 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: free tattoos. Uh Connie five had boots on the ground, 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: as did her husband. So we're going to check in 37 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: with the loving couple about what the scene was in 38 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: West Hollywood for that little promotion. And also, of course 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: episode two of our favorite NFL program, Hard Knocks. It 40 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: was another great episode of course, centering on uh poor 41 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: Robbi Aguayo. As you would expect. So we'll get to 42 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: that as well. Before we do anything that's formally, say 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: hello to um Erica behind the glass, how are you 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: comfort level raising? Let's say one to ten? Where you 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: at comfort comfort level nine? Like I feel like she's 46 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: already at ten. Thank you, thank you. I went home 47 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: on the listen to the last episode from a technical angle, 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: pumped it out on loud sound and within my noise 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: late at night, and it was she did a great 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: job with it, very technically sound, very nice. Erica. What 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: is your Twitter handle by the way at the tempo NFL? Yes, 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: And that's well you'll get you'll learn the terrible news 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: that Eric is another Patriots meeting at me saying like, yes, 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: we gotta take Dan down. And I was like, hey, 55 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: I gotta have to stay Switzerland throughout this. Okay, I 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: respect that you're a professional taking Dan down when his 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: team is predicted by many experts to go and oh 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: and six team? How low can you feel? Feels aggressive? 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news. Is that too much? 60 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: How about that one? Is this Gerald McCoy garnering serious 61 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: hard knocks? M vp uh consideration office performance an episode two, 62 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: we'll get to all that, but let's start first with 63 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: what is becoming the big um uh legal news story 64 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: of the NFL season. Of course, we we we finally 65 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: got out of the flake gate and Tom Brady. Now 66 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: we got something else cooking here. It's Ezekiel Elliott, the 67 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys running back who was suspended six games last 68 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: week UM for violating the week's personal conduct policy. Well, 69 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Elliott did the expected, he officially filed his notice of 70 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: appeal of that suspension, the NFL p A announced on Tuesday. 71 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: UH Commissioner Roger Goodell has appointed Harold Henderson to hear 72 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: elliott suspension appeal. UH, the league announced Wednesday. And Mark, 73 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: is that a familiar name to you? Yes or no? 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: Yes it is. It is because Henderson has been the 75 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: NFL's appeals officer for years, almost a decade in fact, 76 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: and he heard Greg Hardy's domestic violence case way back 77 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: in UH. So the hearing has been scheduled for August 78 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Rap sheet and Tom Plaicero report of NFL Network. UM, 79 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: we don't know how it's gonna play out, but this 80 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: is being a situation is becoming a situation now where 81 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are at least Elliott are fighting this thing. Well, 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: it feels like the next sort of checkpoint in a 83 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: process that could take a very long time, bringing into question, 84 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: you know what what it means for this season for 85 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, because already, and this is through official statements 86 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: on Twitter, the NFL and the NFL p A have 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: come at each other very hard, and it kind of 88 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: reminds you of the tenor and a couple of things 89 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: that have bubbled up since. But the tenor of the 90 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: lockout back in the day, how openly contentious the two 91 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: sides were with each other. They are both you know, 92 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: there is no meek behavior here. Both made it very 93 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: clearly they don't agree that the other side is operated, 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, in terms comprehensively, in terms of this investigation. Yeah, 95 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: the line has been drawn and it's already gotten ugly, 96 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: and he filed the appeal yesterday, So I can only 97 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: see this kind of getting even more messy as this progresses. 98 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, Harold Henderson, he did oversee the 99 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: Hearty case and that was reduced from ten to four games. 100 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: He also oversaw the Adrian Peterson appeal, which that was upheld. 101 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: So it's tough to say how it's going to play out. 102 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: But the NFL does hire him a lot for these 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: appeals cases, so you would think that it would be 104 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: a mild reduction, if any reduction. Yeah, the and the 105 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: ground is shifted repeatedly ever since Ray Rice and everything 106 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: that has come since that. UM. Back in the Greg 107 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: Hardy days, the first time offender um uh in a 108 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: in an incident of domestic violence violence incident was two 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: games it got he got hit with ten games, and 110 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: then it was dropped to four. Now under the new rules, 111 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: six games is like the mandate floor level, which is 112 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: what Elliott got. So you you wonder if, if if 113 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: there will be any change this time around. We don't know. 114 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: We were not lawyers are plugged in that level, but 115 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: I would be very surprised if this was struck down 116 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: um anything beyond a blow four games. If like the 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys and Elio would be very lucky. Yeah, I mean, 118 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: from that angle, it's sort of another precedent setting case 119 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: because we're gonna find out how in this world of 120 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: six game bands attached to this type of incident, if 121 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: it can, if it can shift at all, We'll find out. 122 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: As you said, we're not lawyers I would say of 123 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: the three of you, I'm the least loyally. I know 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: nothing about the trade at all. Did you work in 125 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: a lot No, that was West definitely. I've worked four lawyers, 126 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: but in other capacity. Interesting that you mentioned that, because 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: the natural progression of this would would be ezekiel it 128 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: then filing a lawsuit. Um so it kind of yeah 129 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: that direction. Yeah, waining with the Brady thing that that 130 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: can take an extremely long time. We might be talking 131 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: about this all season, doesn't I was just about to say, 132 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: doesn't this feel like just the beginning of what's going 133 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: to We need a lawyer to come on the show. 134 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: We need like a friendly lawyer to break everything down 135 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: for more ways than one. Yeah, we need a lot 136 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: of lawyer. A cool like a cool lawyer. Yeah, like 137 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: a cool dad lawyer. Yeah. Or mom lawyer okay, Dan, Yeah, 138 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: a mom lawyer. Don't don't get on my case there, 139 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: good point by Colleen. Everybody's comed down. I mean they 140 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: also don't have to be parents, cool dad lawyer, Okay, 141 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: cool mom lawyer, even somebody that's aware of the laws. 142 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: But also you can cut loose. It might need, you know, 143 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: a little to get more detailed, to hash out the scenario, 144 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: maybe happy our scenarios after the podcast to really break 145 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: down what's happenings. Of course, yeah, that's a right off. Anyway, 146 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: let's move on. Uh, don't know where that went. The 147 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Saints UM got some bad news on Delvin Brow. The 148 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: cornerback will undergo surgery for a fractured fibula and is 149 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: expected to miss the next six weeks. Sean Payton announced Wednesday. 150 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reported that the fracture was discovered when an 151 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: independent doctor read bros x ray. I'm saying that right, right, 152 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: So it's not it's so it's like bro your x ray. 153 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: I spell it bro whenever I write my notes b 154 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: R e a U X I like that. Anyway, independent 155 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: doctor found the break um, and that is kind of 156 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: the Other element of the story is that the Saints 157 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: had some in house orthopedis who gave the wrong diagnosis UM, 158 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: calling it a contusion. He was not getting better. That's 159 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: when the independent guy came in and guess what orthopedis 160 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: sent packing the old boot. They got a guyod in 161 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: a big spot. Two of them, yea of them, which 162 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: either tells me one was clearly at all well I 163 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't I should. I'm just speculating, but that that the 164 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: other said, I'm not gonna let you go down alone. 165 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: I can, I'm loyal to you. We're gonna go down 166 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: as a duo, or they were equally you know, at fault. 167 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: We don't know that, you know, well, yeah, obviously, I'm 168 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: just saying it would be a great story if one 169 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: of them said, I actually had nothing to do with this, 170 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: but I believe so much in you that I'm going 171 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: to go right down with you. That kind of loyalty 172 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: is rare a screen player. It feels like, you know, 173 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: there's got to be another part of this, and the 174 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: fact that it was a break. It was initially diagnosed 175 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: as a bruise, and they were annoyed that he wasn't 176 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: progressing as quickly as he should have been. And meanwhile, 177 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: he had a broken leg and now he needs surgery, 178 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: will be out four to six weeks. But he has 179 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: a history of lingering injuries, and so I think that 180 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: that's sort of what they thought this was. Now I 181 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: can kind of relate because when I was younger, I 182 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: broke my foot and my mom thought I was trying, 183 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: like exaggerating a little bit, and she made me walk 184 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: around on a broken foot for two days. Oh well, 185 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: you can't fire your mom, but that feels like a 186 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: fireball offense on some level. The doctor was like, actually, 187 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: your bone is shattered, shattered, shattered. I shattered a bone, 188 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: and she was like, toughen up a little bit. Classic mom. 189 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: We've met your mom, and I could see your mom saying, 190 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, not taking to the doctor for this minor, 191 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: minor injury. It's true, you're lucky. They didn't like send 192 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: you to an orphanage after that, X ray. I'm lucky. Yeah, 193 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: we're all lucky local orphans. Foot is all banged up. 194 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Um moving on, that's a weird headline. Is moving on 195 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: and talking about the Arizona Cardinals. Um who. It's funny 196 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: how things change in the NFL, Folks. A year ago, 197 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: people were salivating over the potential of a wide receiver 198 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: group that had, yes, Larry Fitzgerald, but also John Brown, 199 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: Michael Floyd, Jeron Brown. Oh so many options? Right? Did 200 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: I miss anybody? J? J. Nelson? I don't know there 201 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: were others, but you you get the big characters. Anyway, 202 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: that didn't pan out. Floyd was a mess and eventually 203 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: got traded. John Brown was banged up. Lie Fritz Deald 204 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: was still Larry Fitz but couldn't carry the show alone. 205 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: And now Bruce Arians is keeping it real. Uh, he's 206 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: not happy with where his wide receivers are at this summer. 207 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: And on Monday, he didn't hold back. He had this 208 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: to say via the team's official website. I must have 209 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: I must have been seeing things back in the spring 210 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: when I said we had twelve guys who could play 211 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL, referring to his wide receiver group, we 212 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: might have to. Uh, let's go over the group, like 213 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: I said, fits drawn still there, John Brown is still there. 214 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: J J. Nelson, Britain Golden, Uh, Aaron Dobson, Jeremy Ross, 215 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: Chad Williams. Somebody's gonna have to step up and make 216 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: some plays. Colleen. Yeah, And I think one of the 217 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: most interesting one of the most interesting things that Bruce 218 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: Arians said was he was talking about John Brown's injury 219 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, it's a concern he's not available. 220 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: You're only good when you're available. And it was almost 221 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: that he intimated John Brown was a to practice, but 222 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: he just wasn't capable of doing it. And John Brown 223 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: came out and said look, I'm I'm not okay to 224 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: go out there and practice, and my body is different 225 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: than other players bodies, and I feel like this is 226 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: sort of just a message from Arians trying to give 227 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: a kick to the wide receivers to get their job done. 228 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: They're missing assignments, they're not catching the ball. But Arians 229 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: from the get go of training camp has said that 230 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: he wants really aggressive practices and he's not seeing what 231 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: he wants to see out there. John Brown is the 232 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: key here if he you know, he the sickle cell 233 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: trade situation caused a lot of issues for him. He 234 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: had other issues last year as well. And if he 235 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: can play for you this season, I don't think their 236 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver group is in that much trouble, to be honest, 237 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: He's they have a fine trio in that in said, 238 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: Jeron Brown was not you know, he was not in 239 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: a good connection with Carson Palmer during that first preseason game. 240 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: I don't put a lot of stock in that. Palmer 241 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: came out and said that Geron Brown is someone that 242 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: could catch seventy or eighty balls this year, and that 243 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: to me points to he may need to be our 244 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: number two guy because we don't know what we're gonna 245 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: from John Brown come week one and maybe deep into 246 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: the season. Yeah Brown, It's easy to forget now. But 247 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: when Brown is right, he's like an all pro type 248 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: talent potentially. So I think Arians is maybe motivating because 249 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: he knows that Mary is more than anything knows. Larry 250 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is as productive as he was last year. He 251 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: was starting to look like a thirty something wide receiver 252 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: in terms of his playmaking ability. The offense needs a 253 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: playmaker to step up. So one time in with you 254 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: had a good comment today said they're not going up 255 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: against Scrubs. Their their defensive backfield, you know, has brings 256 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: some challenges to a group of wide receivers. To that, 257 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: It's like, maybe that's part of what we're seeing in practices, 258 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: struggling with the defense and they're dealing with a ton 259 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: of injuries too. I mean, these guys have shin splints 260 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: and groin Get out there and play. So your mom 261 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: would be like, go run the Boston Marathon. Geez, miss Wolf. 262 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: What if all right, by the way, what if we 263 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: had um cool dad lawyer and cool mom lawyer together, 264 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: not actually married, but just like find a good match 265 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: of a team and then We have a little booth 266 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: that we put right next to Mark about four ft away. 267 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: We just throw it to them every once in a 268 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: while like then, Yeah, that could work. We're like in 269 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: a sound proof type of booth inside the pod studio. 270 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: They're just in their own little areas. You're gonna put 271 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: them in a case. How about like a cage. It's 272 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: getting now, it's getting weird. Moving on, let's talk about 273 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, we're just talking about it with Erica and 274 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: all our little Patriots friends saying stick Dan, this is 275 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: the way to really take him down a notch. You know, 276 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: these Jets fans have been flying too high the last 277 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: couple of years. Um. But no, that's not the case. 278 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: It's it's terrible being a Jets fan right now. Um. 279 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: And it is funny to me that Bill Belichick, the 280 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: coach of the Patriots, uh, famously was the coach of 281 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the Jets for one day before he resigned and took 282 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: the patch job eventually. Um. Despite that, and despite all 283 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: the success that Bill has had in the years since, 284 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: in the seventeen years since, he still harbors a very 285 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: very big grudge against the New York Jets. Uh. I'm 286 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: sure Spygate has something to do with it, probably just 287 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: a bit a big deal, but hey, listen, hey Rex, 288 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Ryan did no favors that rexted and things Maninie got 289 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: on his radar, but he is not. It's very clear 290 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: wreck that Bill still has a lot of issues with 291 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the Jets, and it came up today again on Wednesday 292 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: when Bill Belichick was discussing his long relationships with Texans 293 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: assistant head coach Romeo Cornell. Uh Here's what he had 294 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: to say. Well, Romeo and I started together at the 295 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: at the Giants and special teams. So he and I 296 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: coached special teams together, and then we coached defensively together. 297 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: Through we worked at the Patriots together, then another team, 298 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: and then back with the Patriots in two thousand one, 299 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: then another team. He doesn't even he won't even bring 300 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: the Jets up by name, and he and he knows 301 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: that everyone's picking up on that. What is this problem? 302 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: I think you should take as a Jets fan, some 303 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: some calculated pride in this, because if the Jets and 304 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: the Jets opposed no on field threat to the Patriots 305 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: outside of it, you know Mark Sanchez season here and there, 306 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: I know you cling to that two thousand and ten players. 307 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: I cling to playoff victories and teams in the I'm 308 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: not okay, I do the same. We're don't you number one. 309 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: Don't start that we can't get on each other. I 310 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: put teams. What I'm saying, If he's really so peeved 311 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: by the Jets and they're so deeply under his skin 312 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: that he can't refer to them by name, yeah, I 313 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: like that dynamic. I have a solution. I think that 314 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: you should not refer to Bill Belichick by name from 315 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: this point forward. Not like that. It's something I'm gonna 316 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: think about for sure. And just so you know, this 317 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: has been a troll job that's been going on for 318 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: a while. I think it was last season, or maybe 319 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: the season before. It's uh uh. He went through. He 320 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: did a press conference where I don't know how came 321 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: up with Belichick because you know, everybody gets enamorated by 322 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: sometimes Bill goes down these wormholes and the Friday Friday morning, 323 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: just like this, just pay attention. When Bill gets warmed up, 324 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: you can learn a lot about the game. Calm down. 325 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: But he um at one point in the press conference 326 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen named every coordinator he had ever 327 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: had and he he left off one coordinator who do 328 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: you think was Eric Genie? Yeah, people forget the Romeo 329 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Cornell and this when he left the Patriots way went 330 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: to Cleveland when year two thousand he was their defensive 331 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: coordinat or one of the worst defenses of all time. 332 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: They were so bad that he had to run a 333 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: scheme called the UFO defense, where the front seven all 334 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: they did was before the snap they would run around 335 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: in circles to cry to try to create some sort 336 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: of confusion. Would he usually just results in like a 337 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: twenty seven yard game by the opponent. Not not an 338 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: effective defense. He tried though, I creativity. Yeah. Um, last note, Coline, 339 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: don't want to thank you. And if you're watching the 340 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: video show Collie literally wearing Jets screen and white today. 341 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: This was not planned at all. And would you like 342 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: to where the Jets tattooes it's a little No, you're right, 343 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: it's pretty close. Let's take a picture for the people. Uh, 344 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: send this out. I should have worn this because I 345 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: didn't do my hair today. First on air photo of 346 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: being taken here in the podcast studio. All right, let's 347 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: move on, a good job. I'm gonna put it right 348 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: on your notes, there is an alternate reality where it's 349 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: even more depressing than being an Eagles fan. For you, 350 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: that photo, this jet screen and Patriots white all right now, 351 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: moving on the chargers. They are trying to establish a foothold, 352 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: as I said earlier, in this region Los Angeles, where 353 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: we live and work, and one of their outreach um 354 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: ideas was to hey, what if for one day, for 355 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: twelve hours, we pick a famed Hollywood West Hollywood tattoo 356 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: studio and offer free Chargers tattoos to anyone that wants it. 357 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: Just come to the Shamrocks Social Club and get a tattoo. 358 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: And uh, and now it's time, Colleen. You were there. 359 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: You were there on hand, and the reason you were 360 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: you were being a total Miko Grimes scenario. Super supportive 361 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: of of your man because I have him on the 362 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: line right now. His name is John Gonzalez. Uh. He 363 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: is a contributor to the Ringer and also uh, the 364 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: husbandman of of Colleen Wolf. That's I feel like that's 365 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: a pretty good description of who you are. John. It's 366 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: not bad for those who don't know. I'm an American 367 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 1: sportswriter and I live in Lost My wife and our 368 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: two dogs. It's all there. It's all there if you 369 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: ever need to know about Gonzo. So Gonzo, you and 370 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: Colleen both went to the tattoo shop and and a 371 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: great piece on the ringer that you should all check out. Gonzo. 372 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure that you tweeted it out. You could follow 373 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: Gonzo underscore John gons Uh tell us your takeaways from 374 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: your trip there. How long were you there? By the way, 375 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: I was there for a few hours. It was sort 376 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: of multi purpose. Wanted to get us story, but also 377 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: Colin was getting her nails done, so I had a 378 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: word to check her off. That's true. I left the 379 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: I left the tattoo place and was like, what can 380 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: I do around here? And there's a place that gives 381 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: free alcohol away. Uh, and you can get a manicure 382 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: at the same This is right up on Sunset Boulevard, 383 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: if I'm not correct, is everything on Sunset free? Now? 384 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: What's going on in theistical Southland Boulevard? So that's smart, 385 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: very efficient use of your time, Gonzo own another way, 386 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Uh to earn a buck, you just while while waiting, 387 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: you just knock out a column. Nice work, knock knocked 388 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: out the story and then uh then Colin took the 389 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: money for her nails. It worked out for everybody. So basically, 390 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: you it did seem that you came across some interesting 391 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: characters here, and one that stuck out was and I 392 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: think it was the first um A fan that you 393 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: you put in your article, was the guy that was 394 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: such a big Chargers fans down to San Diego that 395 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: he cried by himself in his car when the news 396 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: was official that they were leaving San Diego. And yet 397 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: he got up at like five am yesterday to take 398 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: the ride up uh up room five in a State 399 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: five with his uh wife and babies and everything to 400 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: get this tattoo for the l A Charges. How how 401 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: do you make sense of that? Ganza? I don't. I said, 402 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure anybody was going to show up because 403 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: you know, you guys obviously saw the Chargers preseason opener 404 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: in Carson, California. They play in a soccer stadium and 405 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: couldn't fill it. So I was wondering if anybody was 406 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: gonna show to get permanently branded with Chargers tattoos, which 407 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: seemed kind of crazy. But yeah, this guy who was 408 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: devastated when they moved, decided that he was going to 409 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: get up and not only drive to l A from 410 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: San Diego yesterday morning, but he packed his wife and 411 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: two kids in the car. And one of the kids 412 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: is two weeks old. Wow, you almost shouldn't even be 413 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: out in the atmosphere when you're that young, exactly. Yeah, uh, 414 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: not hermetically sealed or anything. And you know what, an 415 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: angel was quite as could be. Um, well, how about 416 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: how many people did you see there or get tattoos 417 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 1: during your time waiting for Colleen's nails to be complete? 418 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: Also the tattoos themselves, Yeah, yeah, the tattoos themselves were interesting. Um, 419 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: there were three options. But I would say when we 420 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: got there, when Colleen and I got there, I counted 421 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: twelve people fourteen if you count the two kids they 422 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: didn't get tattoos. Uh. And then although you know who knows, 423 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: uh orphanage, there would definitely be some social service taking 424 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: away that two weeks, although go Ahead and Goza had 425 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: all the way around. I think like just having a 426 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: Charger's tattoo as as a dad might get you in 427 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: trouble with child services. But uh, there was probably like 428 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: twenty more people in line when I left, and the 429 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: PR people told me afterwards that they had somewhere in 430 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: the neighborhood because they were open from one pm to 431 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: one am yesterday. So they claimed that there were about 432 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: a hundred people in total that show. But you know 433 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I saw about twenty. Well one 434 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: question for you, I don't know if you were able 435 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: to mind your way into the shop itself. By the way, 436 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: I believe I have one tattoo and it was it 437 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: was something I acquired on on West Hollywood, right where 438 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: I believe this place is, unless this is a newer version. 439 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: But so you got you mind your way into this shop. 440 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: We're able to see where on people's bodies, be it 441 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: male or female, are people deciding to get Chargers tattoos? 442 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: Where was the hot spot on the body or maybe 443 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 1: an unusual placement if you saw one. So this is 444 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: this is interesting. The first guy that I mentioned, Anthony, 445 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: who brought his two kids and his wife. He he 446 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: got it on his forearm and he the tattoo. You 447 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: had three options. You had the chargers lightning ball, you 448 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: had the word chargers, and then you had this weird 449 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: mock up. This is my favorite one. The third one 450 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: it was it's a shield like a coat of arms, 451 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: and on it it said l A Chargers and then 452 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: it had like the lightning bowl and blue and gold 453 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: and then this is the part that threw me and 454 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: I had to ask about it. It looked to me 455 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: to be some sort of horse, but they insisted it 456 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: was a stallion behind the glass. I'm being told guns though, 457 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: that that is actually the original Los Angeles Chargers logo. Well, 458 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: it's terrible, and a lot of people picked that. A 459 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: lot of people think that a lot of people picked it, 460 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: including one of the guys I talked to, uh to 461 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: answer your questions as he goes, uh, you know, I'm 462 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of been a fan of long time. 463 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: I said, how long he goes, Oh about ten years. 464 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: I guess that does qualifies a long time for charges 465 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: him And he said he had never gotten the tattoo 466 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: before his first one. Who's gonna be the shield coat 467 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: of arms deal? And I said, why would you do that? 468 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: And he said it's free and he got it on 469 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: his calf, Oh the calf, Tess. Well, you know what, 470 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: never underestimate the power of free stuff. I've seen that 471 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: all through my life, and even if it's permanent body 472 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: modification free. A lot of people get it. Gonzo. Wait wait, wait, 473 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 1: wait before he goes. One of my favorite parts about 474 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: this story, John, tell him what Johnny Hecker was offering. Yeah, 475 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: even the rams punters scoring on these guys. That's how 476 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: you know that you're in trouble when you come to town. 477 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: The rams punter was making fun of them and saying 478 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: that he would pay for the chattoo removal. So if 479 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: you got one yesterday, I hit him up. The punter 480 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: coming after you in a big spot. Um, Gonzo, check 481 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: him out. Like I said at Underscore, John Guns, he 482 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: checked out his work at the Ringer. Uh, you could 483 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: check him out, you know. Losing to me and Cornhole 484 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: when the stakes go a little bit higher, all these 485 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: things are in play. Gotta hang out soon, man, Yeah, 486 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: before I go real quick. Big day for our boy West, 487 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: So shots to West and the Paramore. Absolutely absolutely, all right, 488 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: John Gonzalez there he goes, all right, all right, bye? John. 489 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: In in in case, yeah, in case you were not aware 490 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: of who John Gonzalez is, he you know he's John. 491 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: Renald Gonzalez BOARDR. Is an American sports writer. Was married 492 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: NFL media broadcaster College Wolf John, who was A. Vices 493 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Alright, 494 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 1: training Camp Spotlight Time presented by New Era UM and 495 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: we are going to break down the preseason schedule for 496 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: NFL Network. Coming up the Bills at Eagles, Ravens and Dolphins, 497 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: Bucks at Jaguars. Let's talk about two of these games. 498 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: We'll start with the Ravens and Dolphins and uh and 499 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: Mark kind of maybe for one each game, one thing 500 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: you're looking forward to. We'll start there. I mean, the 501 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: summer has been long, the off season has been long, 502 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: but now we are here witness seeing a showdown between 503 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: Jay Cutler and Ryan Mallett. Uh, in the most awkward 504 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: of circumstances. I believe that's football at its height in 505 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: the preseason. Uh. You know, in the realm of the preseason. 506 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: What I want to see are two quick things. Jay Cutler, 507 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm not I know, Oh he's in shape, he's been 508 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: working out. But I want to see your Suddenly, you 509 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, you're probably sitting at home with your 510 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: little microphone pretending to broadcast games, and see how you 511 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: do that. Well, that's how you do it, That's how 512 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: you do it in the craft. Yeah, but then now, no, 513 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: not anymore. And you know, back in each weelve but 514 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: now you now suddenly you're thrust on the field. And 515 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: do you have any chemistry with Devonte Parker? Do you 516 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: have any chemistry with the with the entire offense that 517 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: you've known for like roughly eighty hours and and and 518 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: if you're Baltimore Ryan Mallett, if you melt down, did 519 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: they finally say we have got to do something about 520 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: this position? Another terrible game and they've got issues. We 521 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: don't know win Flak, who is going to truly be healthy? 522 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: It's a great point. I won't take much from the 523 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: J Cutler outing. If he's rusty, that makes sense. If 524 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: he performs well, it makes sense. He's been around forever. 525 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: He knows he's been in this offense. How long would 526 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: you play him for? How? Uh know? Series? Maybe you 527 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: gotta get him some work. Yeah, I would play him 528 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: first quarter, I'd play That's what I would do. But 529 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not that coach. It feels like a 530 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: soft tissue in your entry waiting to happen. Yeah. Uh, 531 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: but yes, the the Ryan Mallet's situation is something to track. 532 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, now they got that Lewis in there, 533 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's still not a lot of good 534 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: feelings about the situation. It all depends what's really going 535 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes with Joe Flacco. Yeah, and with 536 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett. Part of the excuses that people were throwing 537 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: out for the way that he played was that he 538 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: was playing with the majority of the second team offense. 539 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: So this week we'll see him with the first team 540 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: offense and he had been playing against the first team defense. 541 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: Those are the things that creep into this time of 542 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: the year when coaches trying to make excuses or players 543 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, I'm not getting those reps 544 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: with the first team, so yeah, well the first team 545 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: defense is bearing down on you. Now you're gonna get 546 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: the hot reads, right All right, Bill's Eagles is another game, 547 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: and Connie Fox, you are, of course, before you moved 548 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: to Jets fandom earlier in this podcast, you did grow 549 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: up following the Eagles. What is Let's start with the Eagles. 550 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to checking out in this game? 551 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: All right? Well, I'm obviously a huge fan of Ronald Darby, 552 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: have talked about him on the show before, so I 553 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: want to see if Tyrod Taylor is going to come 554 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: out and target Ronald Darby and how much in this game. 555 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: I know that we're not going to be able to 556 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: see j Matt Jordan Matthews because j Matt Yeah I 557 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: think that's his Twitter even um because he's got the 558 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: chip Sternham, so we won't be able to see him. 559 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: But it's it's interesting because we get to see these 560 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: two teams that were involved in the trade. It's a 561 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott revenge game of the preseason. Maybe. You know, 562 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: the only game that really counts in terms of settling 563 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: scores is the Snoopy Bawl in the Meadowlands. That's when 564 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: the chips are right now, this one's pretty good though, 565 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty good. Yeah that this is a 566 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: you know the Bills, Bills fans are trying to get 567 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: excited about this season. This is this is the first 568 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: game since the big trade. It is and in fact, 569 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: their GM is all their new gym is already annoyed 570 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: that it doesn't just sit around in Flooring Park where 571 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: this accusation the people say the Bills are trying to 572 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: throw the season down the tubes, and he said, no, 573 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm not copycats. You can't do what the Jets are 574 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: already trying to do. According to something did never follow 575 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: the Jets as a pathway for success. I would also 576 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: counter with just you know, Jets, like we're throwing the season. 577 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: That means eight sacks, the most we've had sincere in 578 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: any game. That's how you throw the NFL season. A 579 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: lot of z A. Jones and an Kwon Bolden too. 580 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams, Yeah, is he okay? Is that Hammy okay? Well, 581 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: that's that's fair question. They said he was fine. I 582 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: wonder if maybe they keep him out of this. That 583 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: was training Camp Spotlight, presented by New Era Speaking. New 584 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Era's NFL Training Collection has a great combination of innovative 585 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: performance and style features like you Be Protection, Moist, You're Winking, 586 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: and cooling technology. There's no reason you shouldn't make the 587 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: New Era NFL Training Collection a part of your daily attire. 588 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: That's every day, Mark NFL clows every day for you. 589 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: Available retailers like Lids, NFL Shop dot Com, and Dick's 590 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Sporting Goods in your favorite team. By the way, tam 591 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: posse I noticed more hats this week and they've taken 592 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: the Brown's hat away. Very audacious move by tam Post. 593 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: It's another power play another I like that shrug it 594 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: off on an underlay it does. I do sense a 595 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: level of cunning that Erica possesses that will surfer quite well. 596 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: I can appreciate that in this position behind the glass. Alright, folks, 597 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: it's time to talk about a little bit Hard Knock. Yes, 598 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: Episode two aired on Tuesday night on Home Box Office 599 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: and another another interesting peek behind the curtain of the 600 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks. I thought, not a surprise is that 601 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: Robbioguayo would be a focal point of this episode. How 602 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: could it not be? And um, and I got me thinking. 603 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: I have been doing these, writing these episode recaps for 604 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: this website for six years now, and I was trying 605 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: to think the last time Hard Knocks and real news, 606 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: like actual NFL news collided and hard knocks at boots 607 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: on the ground and you have to go back, I 608 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: think to the Miami Dolphins in two thousand twelve, when 609 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: Chad Johnson was arrested for his domestic violence UH incident 610 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: and him walking into Joe Philman's office and in one 611 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: of the indelible Hard Knocks moments for me, in terms 612 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: of um just remembering that season and one of the 613 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: seasons of all the seasons is Johnson looking around and 614 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: knowing that the stationary cameras in there somewhere, and he 615 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: makes eye contact with it and just like hangs his 616 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: head and knows, not only is his football career about 617 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: to end, uh, he's about to become the subject of 618 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: a a documentary series about it. So anyway, that's what 619 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: it reminded me of, was Robbi Aguayo, the way they 620 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: built up through the episode, some of the challenges and practices. 621 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: Chris Baker, just, I mean, this is this is football, 622 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: this is this is what this sport is, especially during 623 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: training camp. I know Mark where I think Colleen as well. 624 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: Collision low Crossers. That gave a great peak behind the 625 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: curtain of how brutal these team teammates can beat to 626 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: each other during training camp before they're all kind of 627 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: like the same page once the season starts, Chris Baker 628 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: barking in. Both Aguayo and Folks ear from feet away, 629 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna miss this, You're gonna blow it. You can't 630 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: take the pressure. And then on that particular day, both 631 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: kickers struggled and what jumped out to me was folks 632 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: and take it. Folks has been playing and doing it years. 633 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: He's heard that and worse, both in games that mattered 634 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: and summer camps. Uh, training camp. It's not like they 635 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: bunk up um, but Aguayo, it was all I feel. 636 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: It was another symptom of his struggles to pressure and 637 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,719 Speaker 1: he couldn't handle it. And they cut to those confessionals. 638 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: It was one on ones and he looked like he 639 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,239 Speaker 1: was a fifteen year old kid. It just it just 640 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: seemed like the moment was too big for him at 641 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 1: this stage in his life and career, and it ended 642 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: with him missing the two kicks. And then this scene 643 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: when after Dirk Cutter and Jason light Um. There have 644 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: been Hard Knocks episodes where they you see the coach 645 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: and GM agonized over a roster decision. There in Locksteps. 646 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: They knew what they had to do, and then they 647 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: have to bring in Roberto and give him the bad news. Well, 648 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: it's never easy. Let's get right to it. We're gonna 649 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna release him. But I do want to tell 650 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: you that we appreciate everything you've done for us, all right, 651 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we just gotta rely on you 652 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: to make those kicks. It went on and on on though, 653 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: like that was the longest breakup scene ever. And at 654 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: one point I think it was Jason Light who said, 655 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: this is not about Roberto the man. Keep your head up. 656 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: Things will get Things can only get better from here. 657 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: Like has that ever happened that someone's broken up with 658 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: you and been like, listen, you've hit rock bottom? Well, 659 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: is this is it? But it's going to get better. 660 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: I think if you're Jason Light and and you know 661 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: you're you're the head coach and you're the whole franchise, 662 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: you have to understand that in this specific situation trading 663 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: up to take him in round two, and this is 664 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 1: not a new theory that you created a lot of 665 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: this environment that he was put into in shrining this 666 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: the idea that he'd come back this training camp and 667 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: be a whole different player and kicker and person especially, 668 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: I think he's got to go through what Nick folks 669 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: gone through and heard this season after season and developed 670 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: some mental toughness. I think I came away totally impressed 671 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: with Robbia Guyo the person I really did, because he 672 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: took it. He he is going to be fine. And 673 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: I think but like he was going to fall apart. Yeah, 674 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: well he's I think it's a he seems like a 675 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: tenderhearted guy, so just you can't really be that and 676 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: he's going to learn that you can't. Yeah, I mean 677 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: this the sport is not for the weak of heart. 678 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: And he just it seemed like the moment was bigger 679 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: than him at this point. And you know, I think 680 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: this is the best case scenario for him on some level. 681 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: Obviously bad news what happened, get it losing his job, 682 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: but the fact that he got another job so quickly. 683 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: Both sides needed a fresh start here. It just was needed. 684 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: They needed to reboot it. And now he's just another 685 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: guy in the league, just like percent of kickers who 686 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: are just playing musical chairs. And here's no more pressure 687 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: on him. He's no longer the second round pick. He's 688 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: just another guy and he's man titeo in New Orleans. 689 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: The the the A storyline has been buried at this 690 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like there's a ton of pressure on 691 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: Nick Folk either. Right now, he's out with in a 692 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: pedal boat with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I don't know if you 693 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: guys saw that, but that was pretty amazing. That's what 694 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 1: I love about the show is because it reminds you 695 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: is we can think, oh, we're so busy and we 696 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: have kids, or we or we have dogs, or we 697 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: have whatever it is on the side Colleen and like, 698 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: but you have a out of other life. Well, I 699 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: loved watching that scene of fitz FITZI and folk like 700 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: out on this boat, stuck with these little kids jumping 701 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: in pools and stuff. It was like they have to 702 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: go home and do the same stuff that anyone else does. Um, Connie, 703 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: what are some of your other takeaways from the episode. Well, 704 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: the graybeards were mentioned. I don't know if you call 705 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: it that you're talking about Ryan Fitzpatrick. I also thought 706 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: it was funny that Ryan Fitzpatrick through shade at Mark 707 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: Sanchez for eating hot dogs on the sideline right well 708 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: and Winston had never heard of that incident. It was 709 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: a weird, like a little parallel dimension if you're a 710 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: jet fan watching, because the paddle boats there were two 711 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: jets from recent teams, and then the Sanchez incident was 712 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: two thousand nine Sanchez rookie. You read the hot dog 713 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: in Oakland. Uh So, to have Ryan Fitzpatrick bringing that 714 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 1: up and said, you gotta, you gotta try, you gotta 715 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: what was it, you gotta respect the game, bro right game. 716 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: It's Patrick's very like, God, I love Isn't it just 717 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: seem like Ryan Fitzpatrick. I was thinking about this yesterday 718 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: and uh, watching him closely two years before, this doesn't 719 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,760 Speaker 1: seem as just kind of amused by for fashional football, 720 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: Like you just kind of like he's like he's making 721 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: just smarter than everybody, and he and he knows he's 722 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: not the most talented guy. And he's just like when 723 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: they're doing these speeches like you gotta to build the 724 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: right team, you have to put the cement in the 725 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: grab was like Pitpatrick. Just a picture him just like 726 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: smirking the whole time. He's heard every one of these things. 727 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: I do find it odd that he pointed out that 728 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: that this tray of hot dogs was specifically held in 729 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: another room for doctors. I mean every team too. Why 730 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: is it the doctors of all people are eating, like 731 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: what is one of the worst food items around. You're 732 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: eating hot dogs the doctors specifically, that's on your radar. Well, 733 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: it was like five in the morning watch the things 734 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: that thought, what is wrong with these people. The hot 735 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: dogs are tasty. I don't care saying you're a doctor, 736 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: like the only people allowed of hot dogs are the doctors. 737 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 1: It just doesn't sit right. There's like the pigs huff 738 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 1: in it and oh, alright, give me a little spicy 739 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: must again. And we are flying any other thoughts from 740 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: this um There's so there's so many more. I know 741 00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 1: we can't get to them all, but I do. Last 742 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: I loved whoever said, what was it like playing against 743 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: bart Star? You see? I found that, like I wrote down, 744 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 1: I said, I wrote, one category was bad jokes, and 745 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: that was there were that was in that was ill 746 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: humor on I thought it was it's not well, it's funny, 747 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 1: I know, And I think I see the show a little. 748 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: I'm realizing I need to just let go with the 749 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: show a little bit. People are people adore this and 750 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: I get it. And so I'm I'm loosening up a 751 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: little bit on Heart Knocks. It's it's just been fantastic 752 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: up till now. She was Miko of course, blood feud 753 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: with Greg Rosenthal, a very own Greg Rosenthal who's UM 754 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: on assignment today. Uh, And it did give me pause 755 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: when I was writing the recap, which you can check 756 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: out NFL dot com. Slash Hard knocks that, um that 757 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: she probably would read this and maybe go after me, 758 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: But I just found it. I found her comment comments funny. Uh, 759 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: talking about how she's at every practice and every game. 760 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: Uh and uh, you know, sharing her thoughts about she 761 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: doesn't care about little seven five yard lands that bowl s. 762 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't give an f about those catches. She just 763 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: seems great well, and and and so in the in 764 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: the episode, and they focus on Grimes and it's not 765 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: that it's well timed, but he has a laceration on 766 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: his leg that that somehow within seconds on her phone 767 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: feels like a close up photo of the last rain. 768 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: And running around showing other players and coaches kids, and 769 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: like she just sort of I I found her much 770 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: more enjoyable than I thought I would have, having never 771 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: really watched her listen to her. I liked her a lot. 772 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: Back to you, very supportive. She stays as she team hotels, 773 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: she books her flights so they landed. She's engaged, Does 774 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: he's engaged? Does it remind anyone of Jackie and Doug 775 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: Christie from Once upon a Time in the NBA? Does 776 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: that ring any bells. I mean, it reminds me of 777 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 1: past relationships that I had, like way back in the day, 778 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: I will land when you land. You had that situation. 779 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: These things are out there. It's not airplanes. But all right, anyway, 780 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: yes again, check it out NFL dot com, slash hard 781 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: knocks uh and another episode next week. We'll talk about 782 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: it all right. Moving on, how did we get out 783 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: of there without talking Hockley? Also, we forgot to say 784 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: spoiler alert to the UK UK audience who don't get 785 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: to see this show until Thursday. So here's a belated 786 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: spoiler alert. Whatever I mean, I don't know, I don't 787 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: think that, don't Yeah, that's you went a little bit 788 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: off script with me. Well, but it's in there, so 789 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: that's all that matter. You know, we love you over 790 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 1: the other side of the pond. That was not on 791 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: purpose for watch it by now, how about that. There's 792 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: so much, so many more things we didn't get to. 793 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: Let's um, let's close by today's show by talking about 794 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: you know, trades. That makes sense. Sometimes you don't have 795 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: to you know, you don't have to get let's be 796 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: fancy with the title to really hook in the listener, 797 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: uh or the view or no trades that makes sense. 798 00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: I think it's simple. This was an article that I 799 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,439 Speaker 1: was assigned to write, and and maybe what I said, 800 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: what I came up with was not like hot takey enough, 801 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: because even on NFL dot comment said seven logical trades, 802 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: like all right, you want me to ship I understand, 803 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: you want Peyton Manning to come back and take over 804 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: like a Patriots team that shipped Tom Brady to the 805 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: Bucks because Jamis Witten got all it lost at sea. 806 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't come up with I 807 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: get it. I get it, buddy. And by the way, 808 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: I see also wilk for the title is a title bar? 809 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: What's the technology? What's the turn bind scenes topic bar? Uh? 810 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: Potential trades that make I mean, to the point where 811 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: this doesn't even exist. Let's not even act like any 812 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: of this, even VAMPI this is gonna be a great segment. 813 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: Who's excited for all right? Get us going mark with 814 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: a little I know you want to talk to your 815 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: your brownies, so let it rip, well I will. There 816 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: were there were a couple. I think that's a team 817 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: that's still actively thinking we could trade certain veterans. And 818 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: you look at Joe Hayden's salary and if they could 819 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: ever find a way for a team to absorb that salary, 820 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 1: you move Joe Hayden potentially. I still think he's he's 821 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: one of their locker room, you know, favorites. He's been 822 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: a loyal guy through some really tough years. But how 823 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: about the list Cowboys. It's an obvious, uh that defense 824 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: needs help up and down, and Hayden, I think has 825 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: got another couple of seasons where you plug him into 826 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: that Dallas defense and in return you get another draft pick. 827 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: But that division, you look at the wide receivers that 828 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: Dallas is going to need to face this season in 829 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: the NFC East, much less beyond, and it would be 830 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: great to pick up a veteran cornerback that if if 831 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: Hayden is healthy, he would immediately help you and have 832 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: a chance himself to go on to some playoff games, 833 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: which is a rare thing in Cleveland. I know we're 834 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,320 Speaker 1: not capologists, but Joe Hayden probably makes a fair amount 835 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: of guap. Well, that's they would need to move some 836 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: things around, like and he's his contract is like wheel No, no, 837 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean you need to move someone. Honestly, I looked 838 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: at him as a potential cut in Cleveland because of 839 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: his cost and what his contract is, but also just 840 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: his health situations. So maybe you can get someone to 841 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 1: take him. I'd imagine him with Rod Marinelli. I mean, 842 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: he would be probably even better than what he is now, 843 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: just working in that system with him. Is Joe Hayden 844 00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: is still Joe Hayden by the way, No, I don't 845 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: think he is. And I think that's why you potentially 846 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: trade him. Yeah, alright, Colleen, what do you got? Okay? 847 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: I got Michael Kendricks, Eagles linebacker. He requested a trade. 848 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 1: He asked the team to either trade him or release 849 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: him um this offseason. That obviously did not happen. He's 850 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: kind of struggled to find a spot in Jim Schwartz's defense. 851 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: So he wasn't on the field a lot last year 852 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: and that's sort of why his production is the way 853 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: that it is. It looks from last season. He's only 854 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: twenty six years old, and you know where you could 855 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,800 Speaker 1: send him Miami. So here's what happened. You have points 856 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: that was what sort of accident was that I thought 857 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: you were doing. But I'm getting excited about this because 858 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: I started to nerd out about it a little bit. 859 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: So Ray Kwon McMillan, he's out for the season now 860 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: because of the torn a c L and you have 861 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks who's played both strong and weak side linebacker 862 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: in A four three. The Eagles and Dolphins have joint 863 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: practices next week, so you wouldn't even need to, you know, 864 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: have a separate sort of cost or to take a bus, 865 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,680 Speaker 1: right And really, I know, I did. I I went 866 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 1: way too far into this rabbit hole. And Michael Kendricks 867 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: then would be lining up with Kiko Alonso, who they 868 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,720 Speaker 1: played together in Philadelphia. So it all sort of except 869 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: for the four point eight million that Kendricks is getting 870 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: right now. It's funny because the Eagles like shut down 871 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: his request and said no, and he barely played less season, 872 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: which makes me think that he is out there is 873 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 1: a trade bait, but they need to get the right offer, 874 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: and you're waiting for that right player to go down 875 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: in Miami they've lost. Yeah, alright, that was good though, 876 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: you did, I know? And there was like way more 877 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: that you could get into more than I and I 878 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: wrote the article, so um, all right, I'm gonna thrown 879 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: out there. I figured this out. I figured this whole 880 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: thing out with the Browns because no one's ever been 881 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: able to make sense of how Brock went from being 882 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: the second team guy to the starter in the first 883 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: preseason game and now is he starting this week two? Well, 884 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: there's there's whispers, whispers. They don't play it on Monday Nights. 885 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: They're kind of like holding onto that one word, baby, 886 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: one word that seems like it might be too but 887 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: it's one showcase. They don't They don't want to play 888 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: Brock Oswiler this season. That makes no sense for a 889 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: rebuilding team. Behind the scenes, they're completely in love with 890 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: the Shan Kaiser. Now, Cody Kessler is nobody's idea of 891 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, but they probably respect him as a backup. 892 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: That all makes sense. So they have another quarterback that 893 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: can slide in as the number two, and you give 894 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: the Sean the week one job in the way you go. 895 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: So what they're doing here, what the Browns is smart? 896 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: The new regime, This this brilliant regime led by the 897 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: great Sashi. It's just a showcase. They want Brock two 898 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,479 Speaker 1: get in there on Monday night. For the love of God, 899 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 1: just one touchdown. Drive. Just take him down the field. Uh, 900 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,920 Speaker 1: do something that would make you tradeable, some slant you know, 901 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: slant pattern that gets busted for a forty eight yard touchdown, 902 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: something that makes brock oswall look like wait a second, 903 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: Now we understand why John Elway was offering fourteen million 904 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: a year, why the Texans were willing to go to 905 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: sixteen million a year. All that, and then what they're 906 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna ship them over to Indie because 907 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: guess what Scott tell Zena getting the job done? Baby, 908 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: they need a better backup plan. And brock Osweiler is 909 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,320 Speaker 1: a guy that kids just picture of rock Asswire in 910 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: a cults uniform being bad pictures I can can I 911 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: here would be my Here would be two counter arguments. 912 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 1: One his incredible salary. Uh, they can look at the 913 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: Browns can handle that. Though they have they still have flexibility. 914 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 1: They could they could strike some sort of a deal 915 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: where they take some of that. The other thing is 916 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 1: if you're going to it, maybe if if you really 917 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 1: don't believe in Cody Kessler and you do believe in 918 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: de Shaun Kaiser, but you don't want to throw to 919 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: Shaun Kaiser into the early season, part of the schedule. 920 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 1: Then you put Osweiler in there and let him play 921 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 1: himself out of a job. Their first four games the Steelers, 922 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Cults, and the Bengals. That's a rough 923 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: start for a rookie quarterback. You're saying, there's a world 924 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: where you think the Browns don't trust Cody Kestler's starting material, 925 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: but they need to throw somebody to the wolves, and 926 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,439 Speaker 1: they don't want it to be their hot shot rookie. Yes, 927 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: because that because I think you can you can ruin 928 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: a rookie if he goes out and he goes oh 929 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: and eight or something like that, that you that you 930 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: believe in in his potential. You don't want to throw 931 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 1: him out in week one and then then after after 932 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: that four weeks, stretch your home against the Jets if 933 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to throw Kaiser, and 934 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,760 Speaker 1: then I'm just saying that. I also think that maybe 935 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: it's indication that the position coaches said over and over 936 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: Kaiser has potentially he is not ready to start in 937 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. Maybe they believe that too. Okay, maybe I 938 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: mean kind of more of them too. Brown's analysis. I 939 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: was more I wanted to talk about both side a 940 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 1: little bit. Well, we get it tells the instincts. I 941 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: love everything about this place, I love being a Brown, 942 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: and I'm just very thankful to be here, not for long. 943 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: I think it's it's in play, though you're it's potential. Okay, 944 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: two more quick, kind of a speed round. How this 945 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: with Joe Mixon looking like an absolute starting running back 946 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Jeremy Hill actually look good in that preseason game. 947 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,760 Speaker 1: Talk about showcasing someone that's not a total mess. Jeremy 948 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,919 Speaker 1: Hill to the New York Giants because the Giant slash 949 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: yer that running game was an issue. And they're not 950 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: excited about Paul Perkins. That's the whispers that he's not 951 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: shining in camp or anybody's excited about him. You've got 952 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: Shane Very and you've got Orleans Dark. Well, I think 953 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill is the kind of that NFC East is 954 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: up for grabs if the Elliott suspension sticks, and even 955 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: if it doesn't. And so you you you you fix 956 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: up one of your major weaknesses on offense and you fly. 957 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,720 Speaker 1: I like that one. What about you? Okay? How about 958 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: Philip Dorset to the forty Niners, former first round pick. 959 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: He hasn't lived up to his expectations. Plus you look 960 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 1: at the wide receivers how they're lining up right now. 961 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: Chester Rogers has moved ahead of Philip Dorset on the 962 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: depth chart to the third wide receiver. Camarigan might not 963 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: even make the team, so they have a lot of 964 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: depth there. And the forty Niners obviously could use a 965 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: compliment to pr Garson, somebody with some speed. And Kyle Shanahan. 966 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: We know what his track record is with young receivers 967 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: and talent, and we saw what he did last year 968 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 1: in Atlanta with Mosa New and Taylor gay A Brill 969 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: and Julio Jones. Obviously totally different team, but I think 970 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon would be able to make it work like that. 971 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,800 Speaker 1: They get some young pieces. That's straight from your article, 972 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: with a little bit more some things peppered in. I 973 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 1: didn't rip it right off. Can you give us another 974 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,800 Speaker 1: Miami before we go? I don't even know what I said, Mimi, 975 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: you were you're very excited, kind of like that. There 976 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: was a little there was some sort of flavor to it, 977 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know if I can recreate it. 978 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: Um All right, Thanks guys, good stuff. A lot of 979 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: good stuff. Yes, uh shout out to sweet wonderful Chris 980 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,800 Speaker 1: Westling as he uh goes through surgery today and hopefully 981 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: on the other side of it is getting back to 982 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: us sooner rather than later. We don't know a timetable yet, 983 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,319 Speaker 1: but we hope West's is back in this chair. As 984 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 1: much as I love having Colleen next time, I can't 985 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: wait for west to be back in this chair too. 986 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 1: That is West's chair, and uh we need him here 987 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: as soon as possible, so we'll keep the audience informed 988 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: as that process goes long. But thanks to everyone. Remember 989 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: this is the video show NFL dot Com slash a 990 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 1: t N video nine Eastern, six thirty Pacific. Uh check 991 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: it out and the archives there as well. So that's it. 992 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,479 Speaker 1: This is Dan hands is signing off four quiet Start 993 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: Countie Fox, My Eric tamp Erica Tamposey and Alex looked 994 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: behind the glass until Friday.