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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast part of the Volume

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Speaker 1: podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: I am Chad Moment of the Action Network Today.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by my co host, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my Campadre, my BFF professional better Simon Hunter Ros.

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Speaker 3: I am in Chad. How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Brother? Your son a little froggy.

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Speaker 3: It's early in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Brother, I'm not I'm not a married man with kids.

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Speaker 5: I feel like.

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Speaker 4: In the morning. So yeah, I've heard by.

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Speaker 1: This time in the morning. I have fed the dog,

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Speaker 1: I have fed my kid. I have defended myself from

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Speaker 1: dirty looks for walking into the room where my kid

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Speaker 1: was just to give him his food. I have exercised,

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Speaker 1: I have showered, I have prepped for our podcast.

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Speaker 2: I am rated a role. I'm gonna need a nappy.

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Speaker 4: Well, I went to bed.

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Speaker 3: I went to bed two hours ago. So that's that.

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Speaker 4: It perfectly sums up the level we're on right now

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Speaker 4: in different ways.

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Speaker 2: Why did you go to that two hours ago?

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Speaker 4: Because life's fun. I'm not going to tell you what

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Speaker 4: I did, but I had a good night, let's just

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Speaker 4: put it that way. And yeah, nothing criminal, mainly maybe

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Speaker 4: a new video game came out chat who knows either way.

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Speaker 4: I literally do whatever I want. I'm living the dream.

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Speaker 3: Brother.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing we're BFFs because you and I are living

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Speaker 1: entirely different lives. You know who's got an exciting life

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Speaker 1: our guest, because he is not only living the dream,

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Speaker 1: he is considered by many, including myself, to be one

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Speaker 1: of the very best sports broadcasters working today.

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Speaker 2: He's been on the show before.

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Speaker 1: He's the television play by play voice of the Detroit

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Speaker 1: Tigers and so many other games, college basketball, college football,

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Speaker 1: you name it, he's doing it. He's the host of

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Speaker 1: the Have a Seat podcast. Some of the hardest working

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Speaker 1: vocal cords in the business. Welcome back to the show,

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Speaker 1: Jason Bennetti.

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen, how are you?

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Speaker 5: I think my life is somewhere in between you two.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's because you're on the road every single night.

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Speaker 1: Basically you work nights. I mean you basically you're basically

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Speaker 1: like a lounge singer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, that's not far that's not far from the truth.

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Speaker 5: There's a dire straight song called all the Road Running.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's Mark Knoepfler. I think that's pretty much

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Speaker 5: my life. That or up in the air with George Clooney,

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Speaker 5: But I don't know which is sadder.

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Speaker 2: If it's a alla.

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell, our producer who you graciously hosted, ed a

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Speaker 1: Brewers Tigers game earlier this season.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a class act.

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Speaker 1: His favorite call of yours was twenty twenty two College

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Speaker 1: football TCU at Baylor. TCU as the ball they're down

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Speaker 1: to with twenty two seconds left, third and seven Baylor

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Speaker 1: twenty six yard line with no timeouts for TCU. If

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Speaker 1: they lose, they lose a shot at the college football playoff.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell our listeners what happens next?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I almost like get emotional thinking about this

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Speaker 5: moment because and that's so cheesy, right, Like it's a

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Speaker 5: sports play by play call, right, but it's everything you

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Speaker 5: want in a team concept emotionally. So like you know

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Speaker 5: those big moments where a play by play person yells

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Speaker 5: and it's just the play by play announcer and it

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Speaker 5: sounds like, you know whatever, Like it sounds great, but

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Speaker 5: when you do it together, it just means a lot,

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Speaker 5: you know, because you know that you've kind of it's

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Speaker 5: like a great scene in a movie that you build

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Speaker 5: both feeling the emotion of it. Like I have some

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Speaker 5: actor friends who've told me, like, when you see two

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Speaker 5: over one of their shoulders, it's not always that that

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Speaker 5: second person is in the scene. As the person who's

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Speaker 5: I've had actor friends tell me that they respect most

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Speaker 5: So TCU runs the ball without timeouts to set the

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Speaker 5: then they absolutely fire drill three alarms, send their kicker

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Speaker 3: Gravity is pulling harder for some.

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Speaker 5: Reason, and they are sprinting this kicker onto the field

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Speaker 5: so he can make the biggest kick of his life

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Speaker 5: and nothing will surpass that as the biggest kick of

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Speaker 5: his life, as we found out, like his name's Griffin Kel.

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Speaker 5: They absolutely nail it and win the game. But in

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Speaker 5: that moment, you know, I say, it's a run on

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Speaker 5: third down. Brock gets some urgency in his voice. I

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Speaker 5: build the line, the offensive line. As they're doing it,

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Speaker 5: we're kicking up the energy piece by piece. He nails it.

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Speaker 5: I make the call. Brock jumps in and says wow,

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Speaker 5: or some version of that. But it was every level

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Speaker 5: that they went to, you know, almost like a like

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Speaker 5: a menu at a buffalo wing restaurant where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 5: this many chili peppers and this many. We did it

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Speaker 5: together and we felt the energy, and I remember very

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Speaker 5: distinctly there is a moment after we're done narrating it

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Speaker 5: where it's just the scene that Brock and I were

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Speaker 5: like if you had the snoop cam in the booth.

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Speaker 5: Brock and I are looking at each other just like wow,

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Speaker 3: Third down, another run de mercado. Then you get on

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Speaker 3: the field, Yeah, it got a hustle.

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Speaker 5: Here a run and now it's a total scramble.

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Speaker 6: Emergency mode for the unbeaten horn Frogs. Hipno toad in

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Speaker 6: a hurry Griffin con for the wind Ta CEO.

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Speaker 2: It's undefeated stew whoa unreal.

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Speaker 3: I am shaky. I can't believe what Sonny.

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Speaker 2: That is a walk off, really a runoff.

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Speaker 3: For the ages.

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Speaker 5: It's the genesis of my Brock impression, which I am

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Speaker 5: very excited about. But like, everything is a little extra

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Speaker 5: emotional in that moment. And then you have a guy

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Speaker 5: of moments, and I think that was really it was

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Speaker 5: our first of three seasons together, and that was the

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Speaker 5: moment that I think we would both and our entire

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Speaker 5: that's kind of when we hit the pocket.

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Speaker 1: So you're in Saint Louis. You travel constantly. You do

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Speaker 1: every single sport. I like, because I watch every Bulls game.

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Speaker 1: I've heard you do Bulls games, both preseason games and

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Speaker 1: like early season games when Adam amin might be on

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Speaker 1: the road for Fox. And I know you do college basketball.

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Speaker 1: like Travel Warrior, Travel Nightmare. Do you subscribe the theory

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Speaker 1: that you get paid for the travel and the rest

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Speaker 1: is fun. How do you manage the travel? Where do

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Speaker 1: you never want to go again?

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Speaker 3: Oh wow?

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Speaker 5: Hat tip to the Trailblazers by the way for giving

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Speaker 5: me five games this year and letting me stay on

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Speaker 5: the NBA circuit. So because I did enjoy it a

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Speaker 5: great deal and very small nod to them. You talk

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Speaker 5: Haberstrow reminds me of a lot of Petriello, and so

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Speaker 5: I felt very much at home just bringing it full

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Speaker 5: has been so super generous to me. The place I

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Speaker 5: because if I go back there, they.

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Speaker 3: Will remind me of that. You know.

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Speaker 5: My first year doing minor league baseball, I was with

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Speaker 5: where Borat went to the rodeo.

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Speaker 2: In my country, they take them and they take them

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Speaker 2: to jail. In Finnish take them ounta and hang them. Yes,

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Speaker 2: half five.

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Speaker 5: So I was with this team in Salem and our

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Speaker 5: team that's now defunct. They've moved, and I believe the

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Speaker 5: the team got bed bugs from that hotel, so I'd

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Speaker 5: rather not go there ever again. Thanks for that. I'd

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Speaker 5: also rather not go to the hotel in New York

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Speaker 5: City during college basketball season this season where the fire

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Speaker 5: really revered announcers say to me during COVID, if they

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Speaker 3: Travel again, I would have quit.

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Speaker 5: And I actually feel the same way, because you can't

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Speaker 5: when I was sitting at home in twenty twenty off

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Speaker 5: doing Korean baseball games from Chicago, like, I really missed it.

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Speaker 5: I missed the travel. I missed it a lot twenty

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Speaker 5: and you know, you don't know what the plot's going

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Speaker 5: ever going to travel again. There seemed to be some

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Speaker 5: that kind of were okay with it for a little while,

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Speaker 5: but a lot of us pushed back. And I think

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Speaker 5: it was important because you don't get the same entertainment

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Speaker 5: value out of a game done from a studio.

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Speaker 3: You just don't.

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Speaker 1: You're in Saint Louis today, one of my favorite talents

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Speaker 1: where my mommy is from. Do you know why the

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Speaker 1: date October second, twenty eighteen is significant?

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Speaker 5: I think that was Cubs Rockies wild Card Day.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 1: It was the first ever MLB stat cast on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: You were the play by play.

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Speaker 1: To this day, it is the best baseball broadcast I've

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Speaker 2: I'm not even kidding, Simon, I don't know why you're laughing, Like.

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Speaker 4: Uh, the most shocking port chat is the fact that

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Speaker 4: the Rockies were in the wild card round. That's probably

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Speaker 5: Why, you know, if I don't want to put words

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Speaker 3: They're playing the Rockies. Okay, they open minus.

440
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Speaker 4: I believe two fifty, and I say to myself, I'll

441
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Speaker 4: wait till it's live. Hope the Rockies get up one

442
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: or two. Sure enough, I think it was a third

443
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 4: or fourth inning, Rockies are up three to two. Take

444
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 4: a position on the Phillies at a plus number. I

445
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: think they end up winning the game, like nine to three.

446
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: Chets.

447
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 4: So it's just those type of things. I'll take positions

448
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: on where the Rockies are so bad and you know

449
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 4: the pitching tendencies, and right now the Phillies are going

450
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 4: through an issue where their bullpend that we had a

451
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 4: guy basically tested positive for who knows what. But it's

452
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: funny where the market moves off of that. Where the

453
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: Phillies are a travel day, they're going to the Rockies

454
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 4: play Colorado, and that number is usually the Rockies are

455
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 4: probably the worst team in baseball. The usual numbers minus

456
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 4: three hundred and guys I know who don't even bet.

457
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 4: They know how bad the Rockies are, so they'll bet

458
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 4: on that game. So that's the type of thing where

459
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: I think back in the day, that guy never bet

460
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: And that to me is the biggest difference now with

461
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 4: statue what Jason's talking about, where like I like that

462
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 4: Jason's not out here acting like he knows what he's

463
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: talking about. When he works for a gambling company where

464
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 4: he's he stays in his lane and he does it

465
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 4: because it's part of his job. If they're like, hey, Jason,

466
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 4: give it out a home run guy, he'll do it.

467
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: I mean, he watches the game, he knows what he's

468
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 4: talking about. He's just letting people know, like I don't

469
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,479
Speaker 4: do this for a living. I'm just doing as part

470
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 4: of the job.

471
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Speaker 3: I like that.

472
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Speaker 4: I like that there's more than baseball because I want,

473
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: I do want to hear from people like Jason who

474
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: are around the game a lot knows the game. But

475
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 4: he's not coming from from any type of angle, right,

476
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 4: He's just going strictly off what he knows, what numbers,

477
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 4: he follows and all of that. So to me, I know,

478
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 4: Jason went I love it because it's like it's a

479
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 4: new territory for him.

480
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Speaker 3: I love people like.

481
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 4: Him getting into this type of stuff because it's something

482
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 4: that me loves gameling.

483
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 3: I love hearing his view of baseball through that lens.

484
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's my first question you, Jason, is just

485
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 4: do you hate it or if you embrace it a

486
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 4: little bit where it's it's just fun giving that perspective

487
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 4: on those step of numbers. Do you even hear from

488
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 4: fans about your your picks or anything like that? Are

489
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: you just are you just all about the job? So

490
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: I honestly don't build them like I don't. It's not

491
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 4: my choice. It's graphics that builds them.

492
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Speaker 5: Like I'm totally I'm very agnostic. Like I just I

493
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 5: it is a line that because I'm a team employee,

494
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 5: it's just not ever worth it. Like I will say, like, hey,

495
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 5: here are the fan dual home run odds and then

496
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 5: he's got this many or like we you know, like

497
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 5: looking into it, there's this matchup for that matchup. But

498
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 5: I really truly I give the information for the information's sake,

499
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 5: and if people want to use it for whatever purpose, right,

500
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 5: to like make fun of their little brother who doesn't

501
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 5: know as much about baseball or whatever it might be.

502
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 5: Like I I so, you know, like I've played blackjack.

503
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 5: I'm happy to go to Vegas and play blackjack like

504
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 5: that is that's like I enjoy that. But I also

505
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 5: like it is just not worth it for me in

506
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 5: any way to go any closer, because you know, like

507
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 5: we we our producer said to me last week, like, hey,

508
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 5: you know they they want us to talk a little

509
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 5: bit about Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe and.

510
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: All that stuff.

511
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 5: And I was like, I don't really have one of

512
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 5: these like really strong opinions about this. And I also

513
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 5: don't know that I want to go into it because

514
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 5: if my opinion ends up being as I sus it out, like,

515
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 5: if my opinion ends up being, hey, they shouldn't be

516
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 5: allowed in the Hall of Fame. And I work for

517
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 5: FanDuel Sports Network, Like then what right?

518
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: Like that? Then what? So you know, I'm a.

519
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: It's interesting because I'm a team employee and our games

520
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 5: are aired on FanDuel Sports Network, and I think, like

521
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 5: to your point, Chad, I think there's an alt cast

522
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 5: out there, like I really do think there's an alt

523
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 5: cast and teams have tried it. Teams have tried it

524
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 5: for sure, Like I know they tried it in Chicago,

525
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 5: like a specific gambling cast and things like that, and

526
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 5: I you know, I think you just have to figure

527
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 5: out exactly what the rules are that are going to

528
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 5: keep you employed. Like the only thing that stops me from,

529
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 5: you know, having a very open conversation is I'm a

530
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 5: team employee, and I like I cannot bet on baseball,

531
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Speaker 5: cannot will not not going to happen.

532
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: I always know, even when I don't know, like flipping

533
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: through the channels for a college football game or a

534
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: college basketball game, I know when it's a Benetti broadcast.

535
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: A because your voice is distinctive, but B there is

536
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: something funny and charming that you slip into were like

537
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: a reference that is good for the ten percent of

538
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: the pupil, but those ten percent that get it freaking

539
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: love it and then become sort of acolytes.

540
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: You've done this.

541
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: With the Tigers broadcasts, a couple of which have gone

542
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: a bit viral. One I think was you basically called

543
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: an entire inning as if you were golf announcers.

544
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: Right, explain sort of what happened.

545
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 7: There, you could argue is that baseball was a sport

546
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 7: that actually could be called like golf. Very calming tapper,

547
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 7: and he just taps it to with a throw difference. Job.

548
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 7: There're two here on six, so the seven teabots, he yes.

549
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: Thank you for that.

550
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 5: I would say again, I just told you I don't

551
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 5: gamble on sports, but I would say I would take

552
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 5: the under on ten percent of people understand the references,

553
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 5: maybe ten total people.

554
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: Well I'm one of them.

555
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. Jackson Job the

556
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: picture for the Tigers. His father is Brant Job, who

557
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: was a long time PGA tour golfer, and we had

558
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: a picture of Jackson caddying for Brant just before Jackson's

559
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 5: fourth birthday at the Masters way back in the day,

560
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 5: like eighteen and a half years ago, and so we

561
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 5: showed it earlier, but then we got into the thick

562
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: of the game. And I don't know what made me

563
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 5: do it, but maybe it's my partner, Andy Dirks, also

564
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 5: being a circus animal, and so I just started, you know,

565
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 5: as a golf person, and he came right with immediately,

566
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 5: and then we did it for I don't know, a

567
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 5: minute and a half, two minutes, and then broke character

568
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 5: and then told the Jackson job golf story again. And

569
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Speaker 5: you know, there was a time in my life where

570
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 5: that would have just been the whole thing, right, just

571
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: because it's fun to be golf announcers and it's fun

572
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: to laugh and enjoy life. I do as an aside,

573
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 5: I do think it's pretty funny when people tweet at us,

574
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: like you're laughing so much stick to the game, like

575
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 5: a dear sir or madam or whomever, I'm sorry, you're miserable,

576
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 5: sincerely us like imagining when you're eight, imagining a world

577
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 5: where somebody writes into you and says, laugh less that

578
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: is it's like you're reading the gringe that stole Christmas,

579
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: you know, like that, that's like what's going on there?

580
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 5: And so I just I think those are entertaining. But

581
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 5: the reason we did it is because of Jackson and

582
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 5: his story. And what I was going to say is

583
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 5: there was a time in my life where we had

584
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 5: just been really indulgent and done the golf voice because

585
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: it's funny, and he and I are a little bit

586
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 5: like Will Ferrell and John c Riley and stepbrothers, you know,

587
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 5: but it was about the kid and it's about his story,

588
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 5: and so I think I think that kind of helped it.

589
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: Land have you you've been with the Tigers now this

590
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: is your second season. Of course, you were with the

591
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: White Sox for many years before that, the favorite team

592
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: of Pope Leo the fourteenth.

593
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: What's it like?

594
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: And you're a Chicago guy, how are you enjoying Detroit?

595
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: How would you compare it to a Chicago baseball experience?

596
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 5: Well, I thought this was going to be a pope

597
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 5: question because the Pope.

598
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: The Pope lived for a while.

599
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 5: New Pope lived for a while, like four blocks from

600
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 5: where I grew up in a Homewood, Illinois. So my

601
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: text thread was exploding from my high school friends and

602
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 5: I that day when we found out, like there's a

603
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 5: picture of New Pope at Aurelio's Pizza on the South

604
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: Side and like he knows to say, hey, use the

605
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 5: old oven at Aurelio's Pizza. So you know, we were

606
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 5: doing and like the whole like I wonder if the

607
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 5: Pope's ever been to Chuck's house at Magic or like

608
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: did he get his t shirts made at Knickknacks or

609
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 5: like all of.

610
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: This stuff right outside of Chicago suburbs stuff. So yeah,

611
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 3: I thought I.

612
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: Was going to go there next. I was going to

613
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: ease your in with the question about Oroy.

614
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 5: All right, so here's the answer. I'll give you the

615
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 5: answer about Detroit. I Detroit is an amazing sports town.

616
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 5: Like I knew it when I went there. You know,

617
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 5: I'd been there for.

618
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: You picked a good time to go, though, you have

619
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: to admit totally yeah.

620
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: Totally, totally, totally accurate, very accurate.

621
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: Like when when the town is like buzzing over Lions, Pistons, Tigers,

622
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 5: when for so long it was the Red Wings that

623
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 5: were propping up the town, You're like, oh, this all

624
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 5: could go write all at once very soon. So yeah,

625
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 5: I'm there at the very right time. That is one

626
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 5: hundred percent true. But that's part of the honestly. Like

627
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that I expected thirty one and eleven

628
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 5: to race the playoff spot last year, but I did,

629
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 5: you know, Like I do think the world of AJ Hinch,

630
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 5: and I do think the world of Scott Harris and

631
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 5: Jeff Greenberg, Like I think they have a lockstep between

632
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 5: front office and manager that most Major League Baseball teams

633
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 5: don't have. And you know, there was a time where

634
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 5: I think people thought aj Hinch was going to be

635
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 5: the White Sox manager, in part because his signature was

636
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: on the Tony LaRussa welcome graphic that the White Sox did,

637
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 5: you know, so like that that was a thing, that

638
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 5: was a very public thing that he was being courted

639
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: in part for that White Sox job. And I always

640
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 5: was thrilled about the thought that he and I could,

641
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 5: you know, in our separate jobs, work together and I

642
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: be able to narrate his decision making because I do

643
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 5: do think like he has a little stat Cast dish

644
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 5: like I can't really vibe with aj because he sees

645
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: all of those details and he uses it in his

646
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 5: analysis a little bit like the stat Cast show to

647
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 5: circle back, like the stat Cast show helped me narrate

648
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: aj Hinch because that level of specificity is what he uses.

649
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: But you know, long story short, I having done White

650
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 5: Sox games, I know Chicago is split and that becomes

651
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: your existence.

652
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: Socks Cubs, Socks Cubs.

653
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 5: I had never been in a team job where the

654
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 5: entire state loves your team, and that I should have

655
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 5: known was coming, and I did know was coming, But

656
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 5: until you don't have people walking up to you and

657
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Speaker 5: saying like, I'm a Cub fan, but or I'm a

658
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Speaker 5: Cub fan and I blank you right, like you don't

659
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Speaker 5: you don't realize how valuable it is to have an

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Speaker 5: entire state behind a team.

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Speaker 1: When we were in Chico, we had an event for

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Speaker 1: the show in Chicago at Joson Weed the last weekend

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Speaker 1: in March, and we were all going down there and

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Speaker 1: I was going to hang out with my family on

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00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: Friday night and Simon, who was relatively alone, I don't

666
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Speaker 1: really know what happened that night.

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00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: He was going to go.

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Speaker 1: It was like the opening weekend for the White Sox,

669
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, don't bother. You're not going to

670
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: the South Side to be in a stadium where it's

671
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: going to be freezing and there's going to.

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Speaker 2: Be eight people there.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's just a different experience. I said, if the

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Speaker 1: Cubs were home, you know, you'd go to this great.

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Speaker 5: Food though, I will say great Field has great food.

676
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 5: That is that is definitely something I would stump for.

677
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: Is some of the better food in the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you're cooking for eight people, it's easy.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you.

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Speaker 5: I have never cooked for eight people in my life

681
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 5: because one sometimes is a stretch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, but here's my question about Detroit because last year

684
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: they had that crazy run and aj Hinch like, I

685
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: feel like that could be the perfect marriage of broadcaster

686
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: and manager. But yeah, you know, whenever I think of

687
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: some of the best movies are baseball movies where the

688
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: team goes on that run through June, July, August, right,

689
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: and they sort of have the great montage. Think about

690
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: like every major league right, yep, what is it like

691
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: when you're in that Like does it feel like it's

692
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: sped up? Do you feel the momentum every single day?

693
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: How does that energy manifest itself for you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting because that montage that usually starts somewhere

695
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 5: near mid season, and this mid season the Tigers traded

696
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 5: away Jack Flaherty and traded away Mark Canna and Carson

697
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 5: Kelly and Andrew Chaffin and others. So it was that

698
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 5: you know exodus that you're used to when you were

699
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: playing for the long game, and so on the last

700
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 5: day of July. Little did we know it was a

701
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: plot point, but it was. It was like a red herring, right,

702
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 5: it was. It was in there as misdirection was the

703
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 5: trade deadline, and so there wasn't that slow build. It

704
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 5: was just like one day you're not and the next

705
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 5: day you are. There was a glimpse right before the

706
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 5: All Star breakak when they beat the dodgerswice in a

707
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 5: row on two straight walk offs, but until we got

708
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 5: to August and they they got super scalding hot, we

709
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 5: didn't know. I don't think any of us knew. And

710
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 5: it also required that a couple teams really fade. I mean,

711
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: Minnesota had to fade to let the Tigers back in

712
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 5: and that happened, and Seattle didn't play you know, outsized

713
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 5: baseball either, and so you know, we get to that

714
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 5: point in September where we're in San Diego and the

715
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 5: Tigers have given up a lead to the Padres and

716
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 5: lost because of Jackson Maryland part in Day two of

717
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 5: the series. And then maybe that was day one, but

718
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 5: then Parker Meadows hits this grand No that was day two,

719
00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 5: because Parker Meadows Game three, to avoid a sweep, hits

720
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: this grand Slam in the ninth inning off the Padres closer.

721
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:04,959
Speaker 3: And.

722
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 5: Like none of us knew it was coming, and I

723
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 5: had to recalibrate, Like on the walk back to the hotel,

724
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 5: I was going separately from the team because of college football,

725
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 5: and the walk back to the hotel, I remember thinking

726
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 5: to myself, I'm not going to be surprised again if

727
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 5: they're going to do this, Like I am going to

728
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 5: be on it from Jump Street expecting that they're going

729
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 5: to do this because if they do make this comeback.

730
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: And this was thirty days in advance, but but you

731
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 5: know that Grand Slam. I was on it, but I

732
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 5: wasn't expecting it. And those are separate things. And I

733
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 5: think this team felt the same that they were doing

734
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 5: some things, but they weren't expecting to win. And Spencer

735
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 5: Torkle said, actually just told us this on the podcast

736
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 5: the other day, like this is the first team he's

737
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 5: been a part of in Pro Bowl that he's felt

738
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 5: like they come to the ballpark and they expect to win,

739
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 5: and I think there's a difference. And so in the

740
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 5: way I did my job, I just started expecting fully

741
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 5: the unexpected, and that is a recalibration. And so that

742
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 5: was that was really valuable and important because then there

743
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 5: were all these moments and I was like, Okay, when's

744
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 5: the next one, when's the next one? When's the next one?

745
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 5: When's the next one? And you almost have to do

746
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,479
Speaker 5: it like that and not be disappointed if it doesn't come,

747
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 5: but just thinking like, all right, we're gonna drill this

748
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: one now because they're going to do something and lo

749
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 5: and be old they did something over and over and

750
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 5: over again.

751
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: But does that just make your call different? Is that

752
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: like that? What does that look like?

753
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like.

754
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 5: Robin Ventura told me when he was the White Sox

755
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: manager my first year. We were at dinner and he

756
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 5: said some version of you know, I've told writers before,

757
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 5: try one game and not even in like this is

758
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 5: going to sound like he was like ripping writers or something.

759
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 3: He didn't.

760
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 5: He didn't mean it at all like this. He just

761
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: meant it as a thought exercise for one game. Really

762
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 5: lock in on every single pitch, like really lock in,

763
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 5: like don't look at your computer, don't write something, don't

764
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 5: talk to the person next to you, be eyes up

765
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 5: on every single pitch.

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00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: You're going to be exhausted.

767
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 5: And that was ringing in my ears as this was

768
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 5: going on, because I'm like, I think I'm an attention payer, right,

769
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 5: Like I think I'm watching the field most times, and

770
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 5: I think I'm locked in most times, but I'm also

771
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 5: talking to my partner and sometimes there's a pitch that

772
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 5: comes where we're in the middle of something. As the

773
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 5: pitch comes, that's okay. You're a baseball announcer. I shifted

774
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 5: last year as much as I humanly could to like

775
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 5: this pitch is meaningful. That pitch is meaningful, and that

776
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 5: is not sustainable from April to July. It is not

777
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 5: like you just can't because at some point you become

778
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 5: over serious. Like last night, we're taping this the Tigers

779
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 5: were down eleven to nothing and Tomas Nido was pitching,

780
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: and we did a bit on the air where Dan

781
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: Petrie convinced me to believe that a comeback was possible

782
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: because I basically said, like, I'm under no obligation to

783
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 5: tell the people at home that the Tigers are likely

784
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 5: to win.

785
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: This game, and he was like, ah, come on.

786
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 5: And then there were two hits in a row and

787
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: I said, well, great, Dylan Dinglar's the tying run. Next

788
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 5: time he comes up, right, Like, you just can't pretend

789
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: that every pitch matters until it does.

790
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: Though.

791
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: That's the fun about baseball. It's a little bit like

792
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 5: a Bugatti, right. You go zero to sixty real fast.

793
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 5: And that's the way that felt.

794
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: Jason Bennetti watching Tigers games is worth getting the MLB

795
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: package just to hear you doing, brother, Thanks for coming

796
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: on the show. Good luck with the rest of the season.

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Speaker 5: Yes somebody.

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00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,000
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