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Speaker 2: results from the first hour of the program as well
Speaker 2: some of the headlines. The Lakers beat the Mams. They
Speaker 2: don't cover. It was a nine and a half point spread.
Speaker 2: They won one oh seven ninety nine. Luca went for
Speaker 2: nineteen fifteen and twelve. Did have a good shooting night,
Speaker 2: but got the win. Got this one out of the way,
Speaker 2: but can't wait for April when hopefully Anthony Davis is
Speaker 2: able to play for the MAVs and that game will
Speaker 2: be in Dallas, NFL Combined gms and coaches, they do
Speaker 2: the media rounds yesterday and the Sons and Grizzlies combined
Speaker 2: for two hundred and ninety nine points in overtime. Sayalo
Speaker 2: to those watching on Peacock this morning, thank you for
Speaker 2: downloading the app, and our radio affiliate Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 2: iHeartRadio as well. Diana Tarassi retired. She's on the short
Speaker 2: list of greatest of all time, certainly in the modern
Speaker 2: era with how she played the game. When Kobe goes,
Speaker 2: she might have been able to play in the NBA,
Speaker 2: and I think he was being serious about that. Her attitude,
Speaker 2: her athleticism, her presence to be able to do what
Speaker 2: she did for over two decades, and she was winning
Speaker 2: here in the United States in college, in the WNBA.
Speaker 2: Overseas as well, she was playing in Russia. I think
Speaker 2: she won six European titles over there. In the Olympics
Speaker 2: she won six gold medals. So the short list of
Speaker 2: greatest of all time when it comes to women's basketball.
Speaker 2: She was fun to be around. Her attitude, like she
Speaker 2: walked in first time. I met her, She's like hey, dude,
Speaker 2: like yo smacks me and I'm like hey. It's almost
Speaker 2: like she was like, all right, let's go, let's sit
Speaker 2: down do this interview.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: She walked into the room and goes, what's up, DP, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and dapped you up. And I was like, oh wow, cool,
Speaker 5: Like you guys must go way back or whatever. You're like, nas,
Speaker 5: first time I ever met her, First time I met her,
Speaker 5: what's up?
Speaker 6: DP?
Speaker 2: And I would talk to Gino Arim and he'd always say, hey,
Speaker 2: DT man DT, like he knew he had somebody that
Speaker 2: nobody else had and he was right. And Gino has
Speaker 2: had a lot of great players, But there was something
Speaker 2: about her. I mean, you could go down the list
Speaker 2: of all the great Yukon players. Tarassi to me, had
Speaker 2: a edge to her. There was a presence to her
Speaker 2: that was just different and wonderful to watch. And when
Speaker 2: you think that she was playing in the WNBA when
Speaker 2: Kitlin Clark was born, let that one sink in. You
Speaker 2: want to talk about a handoff here from Diana Tarassi
Speaker 2: to Kitlin Clark, but over twenty years playing basketball at
Speaker 2: a very high level. All right, recap the pole question
Speaker 2: for hour one setan.
Speaker 5: Our one we had up there is the NFL combine
Speaker 5: still useful?
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 5: Sixty seven percent of the audience say, yes, we've got
Speaker 5: our twos from Paulie. Kyrie Irving's career has been dot
Speaker 5: dot dot.
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving mentioned here, Yes, he quietly had a big
Speaker 2: night last night. What do you have thirty five?
Speaker 4: Man? You want to talk about an effortless thirty five?
Speaker 4: That's kind of him.
Speaker 5: He kind of has those nights in no but he
Speaker 5: really notices.
Speaker 2: And it's weird because I always think what could have
Speaker 2: been with Kyrie? Now he still has a few years
Speaker 2: left playing at a you know, a high level. But
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know how we'll look bad. I
Speaker 2: don't know how history will treat Kyrie Irving. Probably Okay,
Speaker 2: here's here's a parallel. He's kind of like Aaron Rodgers. Now,
Speaker 2: Rogers was MVP but four times, but won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Kyrie won an NBA Championship by hitting the shot over
Speaker 2: Steph Curry.
Speaker 4: But you know, they're kind of enigmas.
Speaker 2: In fact, you know, his documentary was called Enigma Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: They're they're polarizing. Were they great teammates? Like there's it
Speaker 2: just feels like there's a what could have been or
Speaker 2: should they have been better? Because Aaron Rodgers should have
Speaker 2: been better if you look at his postseason, even when
Speaker 2: they had home field advantage, he didn't produce. But we
Speaker 2: always hear maybe the most talented quarterback Kyrie could be
Speaker 2: the most talented player we've seen, and that includes Mike,
Speaker 2: that includes Magic or whoever you want to throw in there, Kyrie. Guys,
Speaker 2: it's one of those when you talk to NBA players
Speaker 2: or former players are like, man, Kyrie, you know, but
Speaker 2: I don't. He played what eleven games at Duke and
Speaker 2: was the number one overall pick. He could have played
Speaker 2: three games. He could have just done warm ups and
Speaker 2: probably been the number one pick. You could see it,
Speaker 2: but there's still that mystery to him of I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know all Star nine times. But still you're
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, when I'm watching the game
Speaker 2: last night, it's like, all right, Kyrie, you know, you
Speaker 2: kind of forget. He went to Dallas and it didn't disappear,
Speaker 2: but he was in a big shadow there, and.
Speaker 4: I don't know. It feels unsatisfied, unfulfilled.
Speaker 7: Yes, Mark, Yeah, I think one of the most disappointing
Speaker 7: teams ever is the Brooklyn Nets team with Kyrie Irving
Speaker 7: and Kevin Durant, two of I don't know, put him
Speaker 7: on the short list of they have everything. Yeah, there's
Speaker 7: nothing either either one of them can't do, and they
Speaker 7: just came up short because their injuries or whatever, and
Speaker 7: they could just never put it together.
Speaker 6: But you say, hey, I got those two on the floor.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's an advantage that nobody else had,
Speaker 2: Like when you talk about duos, when you have those
Speaker 2: two and that's a decided advantage.
Speaker 4: But they could never get over the top.
Speaker 2: Now you could say, you know, then Durant's foots on
Speaker 2: the line and doesn't get credit for three. I understand
Speaker 2: all of those things. Kyrie did hit one of the
Speaker 2: biggest shots in NBA history. They ran a design play
Speaker 2: for him to go against Steph Curry and he hits
Speaker 2: the jump. I just I don't know if we're going
Speaker 2: to look back, I think it'll be more of a curiosity,
Speaker 2: and it really should be. This is going to sound strange,
Speaker 2: but a reminder to John Morant be more, don't just
Speaker 2: be what you are, be more, And I know that
Speaker 2: that won't sink in, but don't be that guy who
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, he had talent, and that's what we'll say.
Speaker 2: Kyrie Golley as good at ball handler as we've ever seen,
Speaker 2: great in traffic, you know, right hand, left hand, he
Speaker 2: could do it all like he was an undersized shooting guard.
Speaker 2: But these younger players don't just be one of those wow,
Speaker 2: like you know, curiosity, be great like Zion Williamson. When
Speaker 2: it's all said and done, we'll go, eh, he had
Speaker 2: his moments there. Wow, you should have seen him at
Speaker 2: Duke Man. He had a good month.
Speaker 4: I I don't know, Oh it's.
Speaker 2: There, But learn from the greats who weren't satisfied with
Speaker 2: just being great.
Speaker 4: They wanted to be all timers. And I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, Kyrie has so many different interests and maybe
Speaker 2: it wasn't that important to him, like you know, for me,
Speaker 2: I can't understand it. God, do you have that much talent?
Speaker 2: Like I just I'd kill for that. But maybe because
Speaker 2: he's got all that talent, it just came natural to
Speaker 2: him and not that he does it work.
Speaker 4: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think will be he'll be a curiosity. I
Speaker 2: think he'll be an almoster. He'll be an almoster where
Speaker 2: he goes. He top twenty five, top thirty, he's not
Speaker 2: going to have the numbers. And he has one championship.
Speaker 2: If he gets another one don't. Yeah, Mark, it's.
Speaker 7: It's weird because I can't put my finger on what
Speaker 7: the issue was, because to me, I would never question
Speaker 7: his dedication. You can't dribble the ball that well and
Speaker 7: not be dedicated to the game. You cannot the left hand,
Speaker 7: right hand that level of skill. Him and Kevin Durant,
Speaker 7: those two guys, I will never question whether they're committed
Speaker 7: to being great basketball players. To me, those two guys
Speaker 7: were just almost like like mercenaries, Like, you know, I'm
Speaker 7: just here to play, you know, Kevin Durant be a leader,
Speaker 7: leader man, I just want to hoop.
Speaker 2: No, But I think Durant is truly a basketball player.
Speaker 2: I don't think Kyrie is. I think Kyrie is great
Speaker 2: at being a basketball player.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like when I ask Andrew Luck were
Speaker 2: you a football player or were you really good at
Speaker 2: playing football? Durant just loves to play ball. I don't
Speaker 2: know if Kyrie that's the most important thing to him,
Speaker 2: And maybe it's not. And look, it's not up to
Speaker 2: me to you know, project and say you need to
Speaker 2: be I just I see greatness. I've been around greatness
Speaker 2: for a long, long, long time. And you see the
Speaker 2: difference guys make each year they add, they graduate, they
Speaker 2: get better, they're at a different level. And Kyrie has
Speaker 2: been this like for as long as I can remember.
Speaker 2: I just remember, it's Kyrie and we say the same
Speaker 2: we say the same stuff every single time. He might
Speaker 2: be the most talented player in the NBA. He's got
Speaker 2: the best handle in the NBA. Like, what's missing?
Speaker 6: I don't know?
Speaker 5: Is he a competitor? Does he want to go out
Speaker 5: there and crush you? Is there something missing though?
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, that's the that's the big question
Speaker 2: I think I'll probably always have is. And I've read
Speaker 2: articles about him with people close to him with quotes,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's who he is, that hey,
Speaker 2: I want to go out there. You know, Mike and
Speaker 2: Isaiah Byrd Matt they wanted to crush you, but Kareem didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't think Kareem wanted to crush you. I just
Speaker 2: think he was a great basketball player. And once again,
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that, But there's certain players where
Speaker 2: it just it feels like it means more to them
Speaker 2: their identity, like I have to win. You know, we
Speaker 2: questioned Lebron's drawing. He wasn't Mike, he didn't want to
Speaker 2: kill you. Well, here he is twenty two years later,
Speaker 2: still playing at a high level. You know, maybe Kyrie's
Speaker 2: not wired that way. But I think I'll always look
Speaker 2: at his career, look back and go what could have
Speaker 2: been or should have been with him, same way I
Speaker 2: do Aaron Rodgers, what could have been?
Speaker 6: Should have been?
Speaker 4: Yeah, pong.
Speaker 3: Remember there was about a six or seven year window
Speaker 3: when Dwayne Wade was the best combo guard in the league,
Speaker 3: and he was awesome. He's flying around, averaging thirty, doing everything.
Speaker 3: It feels like Kyrie never got to that height where
Speaker 3: it's like that is the best garden basketball and there's
Speaker 3: no debate, and you want to see him where it's
Speaker 3: his team and everything works around him. Kyrie had seasons
Speaker 3: where average twenty seven, but like you said, it didn't
Speaker 3: feel it didn't feel like Dwayne Wade's twenty seven.
Speaker 2: It didn't feel threatening, it felt entertaining. Dwayne Wade felt threatening.
Speaker 2: If I'm going against him. He threatened me, but Kyrie
Speaker 2: I was just kind of entertained vibe. Although in that
Speaker 2: series against Golden State, I mean, that was big time basketball.
Speaker 2: Cannot argue one of the biggest plays in NBA history.
Speaker 2: He could do it. I just don't know how important
Speaker 2: it was, and he won the finals. MVP, Yes, Marsh.
Speaker 7: But the thing is, you say that they just got
Speaker 7: to the finals last year with Kyrie and Luca. Kyrie
Speaker 7: was going all I know, and it's hard because he's
Speaker 7: in a big shadow. Kyrie when successful, was always been
Speaker 7: in a big shadow with Lebron obviously enormous shadow. But
Speaker 7: they don't win that without Kyrie. Remember Game five forty
Speaker 7: one points, it was forty one forty one. They were
Speaker 7: playing a lot of your turn, My turn, I know,
Speaker 7: and poor Steph Curry was on skates.
Speaker 6: You couldn't do anything with him.
Speaker 7: So I get it, but it was one of those
Speaker 7: things where I'm going to disagree as far as that
Speaker 7: level of skill, because there's nothing genetic that makes him
Speaker 7: superior to somebody in front of him. He's six two maybe,
Speaker 7: and he's doing all this stuff that most guards besides
Speaker 7: outside of Isaiah Thomas, Tim Hardaway can do.
Speaker 6: Not even they could do what Kyrie could do.
Speaker 2: It's just a curiosity. I think he's a curiosity. I'm fascinating.
Speaker 2: There's a fascination to him. But do I want him
Speaker 2: on my team? I don't do. I like watching him, yes,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I don't know what he gives
Speaker 2: you more than he'll give you numbers. But I think
Speaker 2: there's so much more. And I'm nedpicking here, but we're
Speaker 2: talking about one of the greatest talents of all time. Well,
Speaker 2: what's the first thing you're going to say? How accomplished
Speaker 2: was he? What's he known for? I mean he could
Speaker 2: be known for COVID, he could be known for bouncing around,
Speaker 2: he could be known I mean, at that shot, he
Speaker 2: could be just like Aaron Rodgers. So that's why I
Speaker 2: don't know. I know it's on a tangent here, but
Speaker 2: I mean it's generational talent. It truly is. And last
Speaker 2: night you just get tapped on the shoulders sometimes because
Speaker 2: I've watched the Mavericks play when he was there and
Speaker 2: I don't know he's there, but when he is there,
Speaker 2: you can't take your eyes off. He won his title
Speaker 2: at twenty four Rogers won his at twenty seven. I
Speaker 2: mean talk about if I would have said neither's going
Speaker 2: to win another title, he would have been nah, I
Speaker 2: can't imagine that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Mark, and also him asking to be traded from
Speaker 7: Cleveland a year after that hurt his career because he
Speaker 7: wanted to quote unquote his own team. And then he
Speaker 7: kind of realized, Man, I Dave like, I was so
Speaker 7: young and I thought this was always going to be
Speaker 7: the norm.
Speaker 2: Well it was his team. Lebron comes back, they win
Speaker 2: the title, he realizes it's not his team. He goes
Speaker 2: to Boston. That's a disaster. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're going to hook up with Durant and we thought okay,
Speaker 2: and I thought they were going to the Knicks, but
Speaker 2: they they go to Brooklyn. That doesn't work out either.
Speaker 2: Then he ends up in Dallas. I don't think this
Speaker 2: is his last stop, but he's going to be a
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player. And I thought he was great
Speaker 2: and Uncle Drew he was very good, Yeah, really good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So let's be honestly. I mean when I think of Kyrie,
Speaker 2: I think of Uncle Drew.
Speaker 7: Yes, mar One quick thing is his jersey retired anywhere?
Speaker 7: When he's done.
Speaker 8: No, no.
Speaker 2: Where, Like you're gonna say, I guess Cleveland, because Cleveland
Speaker 2: will say, let's celebrate, we want a championship.
Speaker 5: Begrudgingly, Cleveland has to celebrate the ring they finally got
Speaker 5: with Kyrie uh ungrateful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know if you want to.
Speaker 6: I don't get.
Speaker 2: They just they just retired Andrea Goudala's Golden State. Do
Speaker 2: you remember Max Kellerman? Oh yeah no, but.
Speaker 6: What happened dude?
Speaker 2: But but Max, I think the question this might have
Speaker 2: been when steven A goes, what am I doing partnering
Speaker 2: with this guy?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 5: My gosh?
Speaker 4: Wait what was was it Steph curry on? Wait was it?
Speaker 7: He'd rather have Andre at Wadalas shoot the last shot
Speaker 7: than Steph Curry at my god? And then stephen A
Speaker 7: was like, I've had enough of vision.
Speaker 3: I went steven A, that one I would have walked.
Speaker 4: Give me Skip Bayless again. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was one of those where I'm gonna try really
Speaker 2: hard to give you a hot take. I'm gonna try.
Speaker 4: To compete with you, and you did. You gave me
Speaker 4: a hot take. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Those aren't hot takes. Those are fake takes. Those are
Speaker 3: crappy takes. Those are bait takes for your you want
Speaker 3: your day in the sun for any attention.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all the time. It is attention starved.
Speaker 2: You know, it's that's what it is. But we remember
Speaker 2: those things. Yeah, kind of like when I said the
Speaker 2: Jets would go to the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 4: I actually believed it though. That's the sad part of it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'll be damned.
Speaker 2: I think I was. I was high on ayahuasca. I
Speaker 2: might have been because I wanted to get fully immersed. Oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, wood he was speaking of high. Woody
Speaker 2: Harrelson joins us Friday, and I have to bring up
Speaker 2: the time that I went to his brownstone in New
Speaker 2: York with Darius Rutger and we got high. I okay,
Speaker 2: does Woody Harrelson remember that I went to his house
Speaker 2: in New York with Darius Rutger late at night and
Speaker 2: we got high. Pully, Yes, Okay, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he will yes time Paul is.
Speaker 9: Yes, if you'll pretend to remember and say good call,
Speaker 9: good call.
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Speaker 2: How about a pull update for hour two. Then we'll
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Speaker 5: In or out.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, let's see.
Speaker 5: Right now, we still have up there is the NFL
Speaker 5: combine useful all right, that is now ticked staying at
Speaker 5: about sixty five percent, and we're putting up there. The
Speaker 5: options for Kyrie Irving's career has been we're adding four options, okay,
Speaker 5: all of famoush lightly disappointing, both or neither.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: I would say that the Hall of famish, but a
Speaker 2: little disappointing, So that would be both unfulfilled both.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I will.
Speaker 2: And I look, it's not fair to him because it's
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame career first ballot. Is it a
Speaker 2: compliment to say you're that good, but I expected more
Speaker 2: from you, Like Aaron Rodgers' career feels like a disappointment.
Speaker 2: Not what happened with the Jets, but just from the
Speaker 2: standpoint of four MVPs won Super Bowl. The stats, completion percentage, touchdown,
Speaker 2: interception ratio, like all of that, but it feels just.
Speaker 4: A little unfulfilled. Unfulfilled.
Speaker 2: Okay, time to play the special episode of In or
Speaker 2: Out and Pauli, I'm going to have to ask you
Speaker 2: to let Ryan Leaf take your seat. You're good friends
Speaker 2: with Ryan, so you should sacrifice your seat. Now this
Speaker 2: is kind of a last minute, you know, yeah, special
Speaker 2: guest contestant for In or Out? So if you'll let
Speaker 2: Ryan sit in your seat, glad to and then seatan
Speaker 2: would you like to Are you capable of hosting In
Speaker 2: or Out?
Speaker 5: Am I capable of handling such a complex?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 5: Matter, I'll give it my best shot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Paulie, do you have any tips for seating?
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of them, but I'll start with as
Speaker 3: bar Barker said to Drew Carey, if you're having fun,
Speaker 3: they're having fun.
Speaker 2: Oh he did say that, so he could have said
Speaker 2: that to me if I had taken over that job. Dan,
Speaker 2: if you're having fun, they're having fun. Say hello to
Speaker 2: Ryan Leaf, who joins us here in m man An Cato, who.
Speaker 11: Hell everybody again? Here to get my car serviced, and
Speaker 11: thought I'd stop buying, just hang out, and then I
Speaker 11: get roped into being a broadcaster with you.
Speaker 6: Okay, let's do it. Well, you don't have to, I mean,
Speaker 6: I know, but you're my friend.
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't want to put you on this spot.
Speaker 11: Well, I had luckily, I got the notes beforehand what
Speaker 11: they were, so I can't okay, so I could be
Speaker 11: prepared and not just some you know dunce who showed
Speaker 11: back up from the beach and said, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 11: know what's going on in football.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Seaton, you are the host of In or Out? Okay,
Speaker 4: So what does that mean that I do right now?
Speaker 5: Okay, I got you. Okay, let's see question number one.
Speaker 5: Miles Garrett will not be a Cleveland Brown next season?
Speaker 5: Are you in or out on that?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 6: Todd?
Speaker 5: Why don't we start with you?
Speaker 12: I am in that he will not be a Cleveland
Speaker 12: Brown next York.
Speaker 5: In that he will not, all right, Marvin, I am
Speaker 5: in in, in in he'll be in Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Oh so that means you're out, You're out? You're out?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, Dan, I am out.
Speaker 4: I think he'll still be in Cleveland.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, and.
Speaker 4: Ryan, I am in.
Speaker 11: I believe listening to the general manager Barry the other
Speaker 11: day really talk about it Adam about how he wants
Speaker 11: him there, the culture and everything like that. There is
Speaker 11: going to be a team that actually overreaches with picks
Speaker 11: and everything that they can possibly get back from that
Speaker 11: debacle of Deshaun Watson in some way, shape or form
Speaker 11: and start building again. So I would suspect Miles Garrett
Speaker 11: will be out of Cleveland.
Speaker 6: So I'm in on that.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Well let's see why don't we stick
Speaker 5: with Cleveland? And there are many issues. Deshaun Watson's football
Speaker 5: career is over. Are you in or out on that?
Speaker 12: Todd In, I think he's done.
Speaker 11: Marvin In, he's out de Pizzle and I'm in any
Speaker 11: as well. Though I do think it should be specific
Speaker 11: around being a starter.
Speaker 13: I do.
Speaker 11: Think that someone out there may give him a shot
Speaker 11: to be a backup. That's the only thing that would
Speaker 11: I even got a chance of being a backup.
Speaker 2: You know, so you weren't accused of what he was. True,
Speaker 2: you did go to jail. He hasn't gone to jail yet.
Speaker 6: That's ironic.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin DP.
Speaker 7: This is in or out. Ryan Leap has given US
Speaker 7: football analysis that's not.
Speaker 11: There's an association that that could be paralleled in a
Speaker 11: way that went.
Speaker 6: Why why is that so?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Next Seaton?
Speaker 5: All right, next question, The Tennessee Titans should trade down
Speaker 5: and get picks. Inner out, Todd.
Speaker 12: I am in on that. I think they need to
Speaker 12: go get a bunch of picks.
Speaker 6: All right, Marvin, I'm in they need a lot.
Speaker 2: Dp best player in the draft is right there, most
Speaker 2: talented player in Travis Hunter. Go get him and don't
Speaker 2: worry about that side of the field.
Speaker 6: Right. That's interesting.
Speaker 11: I'm I'm trading I'm I'm in on the trading down,
Speaker 11: but only trading down so far to get who I
Speaker 11: think the best player in this year's draft is, and
Speaker 11: that's Abdual Carter. I think he's an edge rusher that
Speaker 11: is in the vein of Micah Parsons who can make
Speaker 11: a real difference on that defense. But you have to
Speaker 11: make sure you get him. So you go out and
Speaker 11: you dangle that first pick to somebody that is just
Speaker 11: freakishly living in Fomo and needs a quarterback or do
Speaker 11: something silly, but make sure you get Abdul Carter in
Speaker 11: the picks.
Speaker 6: That you need.
Speaker 5: Let's see next question. I have no doubt that Shador
Speaker 5: Sanders will be a very good NFL quarterback. Very good
Speaker 5: is an interesting choice of words, Todd.
Speaker 12: I am out.
Speaker 9: I am uncertain to thee how great he's gonna be.
Speaker 9: I hope he will be great, but uncertain.
Speaker 5: So out, Marvin, Ami, you have no doubt he will
Speaker 5: be a very good quarterback?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 11: I mean, okay, Dan, I'm out. I mean, there is
Speaker 11: only one answer, and that's out. Marvin. Come on, I mean,
Speaker 11: you don't know anything. We have no way to know that.
Speaker 11: You know what if he goes to Cleveland.
Speaker 6: I was in. I thought peyton Man was going to
Speaker 6: be a Hall of Fame quarterback. What about me? Oh,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry? What did you think of me? When I
Speaker 6: was coming out?
Speaker 2: We played, when we played in or out, and I
Speaker 2: said to you, Ryan Leeve will be a very good
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback.
Speaker 4: Everybody was out on that.
Speaker 6: I think I think I think everybody.
Speaker 11: Was in on that. That's the reason why I went right. Yeah,
Speaker 11: So that's the whole point. That's the whole point is
Speaker 11: that no one knows, okay, how this is going to
Speaker 11: play out.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: We were all in on Ryan being a very good
Speaker 2: quarter y. Yes, okay, you should have been out.
Speaker 5: Dion Sanders will not allow his son to be drafted
Speaker 5: by the Browns.
Speaker 6: In or out.
Speaker 4: Todd, I am in.
Speaker 9: I think Dean will be very involved with where she
Speaker 9: door goes, and I don't think he wants him going
Speaker 9: to Cleveland.
Speaker 6: Marvin, I'm with Todd completely.
Speaker 4: Okay, Dan, I'm in.
Speaker 6: I'm out.
Speaker 11: I Uh, Deang doesn't have any leverage in this. The
Speaker 11: whoever wants to draft him is gonna draft him.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 11: As much as he may believe he has it, he
Speaker 11: doesn't when it comes to this. Otherwise a lot of
Speaker 11: people would have done.
Speaker 6: He's not. He's not the Mannings.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry Matthew Stafford should take less to finish his
Speaker 5: career with the Rams.
Speaker 6: In or out.
Speaker 12: Todd, I'm going to be in on that.
Speaker 9: Stay with a really good team that can go places
Speaker 9: he doesn't need. He's making plenty of money. He can
Speaker 9: take a little discount and he'll still be fine financially.
Speaker 6: Marvin, I mean, stay with a good team and stay
Speaker 6: in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I'm into a certain degree of how much are they
Speaker 2: going to pay you? I think I think you gotta
Speaker 2: maybe meet halfway, because it's weird that you get move
Speaker 2: on from Matthew Stafford and then you're gonna need a
Speaker 2: quarterback that count.
Speaker 4: They're ready to win now that defense is young and good.
Speaker 2: You got Pooka Nakua, You're gonna get rid of Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4: You still have a good running back. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It feels like you've got a window here of a
Speaker 2: couple of years that you can You are a couple
Speaker 2: of plays away from going to the NFC title Game.
Speaker 2: So I would figure out how to make Matthew Stafford work.
Speaker 2: Not only going to the NFC tod game but hosting it.
Speaker 2: That's a big deal and people forget that if it's
Speaker 2: not snowing, they probably don't fumble those two times. That's
Speaker 2: not much different football game against the Eagles, who would
Speaker 2: go on and dominate in the Super Bowl. So I'm
Speaker 2: I'm out on this one. He should be paid as
Speaker 2: a top five quarterback if that's what you expect him
Speaker 2: to be. What are the La Rams going to do
Speaker 2: without a quarterback? This was the guy they went after
Speaker 2: and got to win a Super Bowl. So yeah, you
Speaker 2: have to find a way whether to meet in the middle,
Speaker 2: like Dan says, or just simply pay the guy because
Speaker 2: that's what it's worth.
Speaker 11: If it's a two year deal, these two years are
Speaker 11: the exact opportunity to win another championship.
Speaker 5: All right, last question. If I was on the competition committee,
Speaker 5: I would vote to eliminate pushing ball carriers aka the
Speaker 5: tush push, the push tush, the brotherly shoved.
Speaker 9: I am in let's stop the tush push. Let them
Speaker 9: get in on their own that other players pushing or
Speaker 9: pulling them in.
Speaker 6: Marvin, I mean, I hate that play.
Speaker 4: I'm out.
Speaker 2: I mean, unless you know, kind of modify this, tweak
Speaker 2: it a little bit. It's a football play. Everybody everybody
Speaker 2: can run this same play. The Eagles just do it
Speaker 2: better than everybody else. That's the best point. I'm out
Speaker 2: on this. It's a football play. It's the epitome of
Speaker 2: a football play. Get lower, get leverage, beat them. You
Speaker 2: can't do it, so you want to ban it.
Speaker 11: And the fact that it's Philadelphia is a big reason
Speaker 11: why to watching them hold the Lombardi Trophy and do
Speaker 11: what they do so well.
Speaker 6: You know, when when.
Speaker 11: Jalen Hurts gets at the one inch yard line, the
Speaker 11: one yard line in any aspect, of things. They're in
Speaker 11: for a touchdown period, you're getting seven. So yeah, if
Speaker 11: I'm on the competition committee, I think that is the
Speaker 11: lamest thing that I could see is watch the NFL
Speaker 11: ban this next year.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is take away the guy
Speaker 2: behind a quarterback. I'm on repeat on this that you
Speaker 2: don't have that. If I just said the Eagles are
Speaker 2: gonna line up for a quarterback sneak with nobody behind
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts pushing him, They're still going to be extremely successful.
Speaker 2: And then what are we going to eliminate the quarterback sneak?
Speaker 6: That's quarterback sneak was so important for so many of us.
Speaker 4: Well, Tom Brady, oh, he was so good at Tom
Speaker 4: Brady mastered that.
Speaker 6: Mastered it. I was very good at it.
Speaker 11: Not only that I was big, but I was able
Speaker 11: to get to the right gap so many of the
Speaker 11: times and made it so easy for me to do it.
Speaker 6: So I also wasn't afraid of you know, I wasn't.
Speaker 11: I didn't like I didn't mind the contact. Let's go
Speaker 11: get let's go get bloody, let's go get dirty a
Speaker 11: little bit here.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 4: We've done it.
Speaker 2: That is in or l really seeing you did wonderful
Speaker 2: job postings. Yeah, just in case if Pauli can't you
Speaker 2: know he's not able to complete his duties, that you
Speaker 2: will be.
Speaker 4: Here to be the host of it. Those are huge
Speaker 4: shoes to step up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll take a break. How about a round
Speaker 2: of applause again for Ryan Lee contention? Yeah he did it,
Speaker 2: he did I try.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take a break. We'll get phone calls coming up.
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Speaker 2: game against Miami. God, Miami is terrible. They are The
Speaker 2: Hurricanes are terrible, no effort, no structure, and I know
Speaker 2: they're losing their great coach, Jim Laernego. But I think
Speaker 2: the assistant coach on John Shire's staff is expected to
Speaker 2: take over the Miami job. You might want to reconsider
Speaker 2: after watching that last night, But Duke's going to have
Speaker 2: three of the top ten to twelve picks in the draft.
Speaker 2: And what I love about what they do, and there's
Speaker 2: a lot to love. They make the extra pass. They're
Speaker 2: really really good. And it starts with Cooper Flag because
Speaker 2: that's the guy you would think, Hey, I need my touches.
Speaker 2: And Jim Beheim has talked about Cooper Flag and he
Speaker 2: did make the comparison. He says bird like, I know,
Speaker 2: bird like, and then goes on to say, well, he's
Speaker 2: more athletic than Larry and he's you know, start talking
Speaker 2: about all the things that Larry wasn't.
Speaker 4: But he's not Larry Bird.
Speaker 2: He's a talented player, got attitude, runs the floor, he'll
Speaker 2: work on a shot.
Speaker 4: There's an edge to him.
Speaker 2: But how weird great interesting would it be if he said,
Speaker 2: you know, I really like Duke. I'm going to stay
Speaker 2: here one more year. If I had the Whizzards staring
Speaker 2: at me because you're going into basketball purgatory, you're gonna
Speaker 2: put up points and you're gonna go, hey, he's averaging,
Speaker 2: you know, sixteen and eight for the Wizards.
Speaker 4: You go to Utah.
Speaker 2: Maybe you have some confidence in Danny Ainge that they'll
Speaker 2: build around you and Laurie Markinen.
Speaker 4: New Orleans. We keep we waited for New Orleans.
Speaker 2: We thought, we thought, okay, this is this is the year,
Speaker 2: and then it's it's not the year. But if you're
Speaker 2: Cooper Flagg, do you go Do I roll the dice
Speaker 2: or do I want to go and be a wizard?
Speaker 2: What if the Spurs end up winning the lottery? Oh boy,
Speaker 2: the NBA, you know, the fan base would be revolting,
Speaker 2: like the Spurs want a lottery again? Yeah, po Cooper Flag?
Speaker 3: Can we do a different player? Comp like Paul George?
Speaker 3: An all purpose, tall small forward. He doesn't shoot like
Speaker 3: Paul George. Okay, doesn't shoot like Larry Bird.
Speaker 2: No, for God's sakes, Yeah, I don't like an all purpose.
Speaker 3: Undefinable, positionless guy like Paul George.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 2: I still don't know if he's a guard or a forward,
Speaker 2: but ain't not much this year. Yeah he's neither. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not a buckets guy like Paul George was. I
Speaker 2: don't know who you compare him to.
Speaker 4: That Tom Googly.
Speaker 3: I just don't do it.
Speaker 2: No, no, but if former you know acc guy at
Speaker 2: NC State, Christian Layton, you may have to say, no, no,
Speaker 2: he's a better he's a better athlete than Christian.
Speaker 6: Oh no, I wasn't being I was being facetious completely.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, no, no, he's unlike I would say, unlike anything
Speaker 7: I've ever seen. But he's not like those guys. He's
Speaker 7: an inside out, but he's not a great shooter, but
Speaker 7: he's a super duper athlete. I'm not even sure who
Speaker 7: to compare him to. Maybe maybe a Scottie, maybe a
Speaker 7: Scottie Pippin type where you're not a great shooter but.
Speaker 6: You can play multiple positions.
Speaker 4: I don't know. This always gets stained.
Speaker 3: We can go European, we go debt with shrimp if
Speaker 3: you want just to hybrid it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it gets dangerous when you do the player. Well,
Speaker 2: we should wait until you know there's a mock draft
Speaker 2: and we'll get the comps they usually do. Those comps
Speaker 2: reminds us of scouts of or coaches of.
Speaker 4: Yes, Mark, it.
Speaker 7: Is wild whenever you do the player comps and they're like,
Speaker 7: oh man, he's just like name white ball player, like
Speaker 7: you don't have like you don't have to. That's Payton Pritchard.
Speaker 7: He's small or hey ma TJ. McConnell, they're small in
Speaker 7: their space. They went to Arizona and Oregon. I guarantee
Speaker 7: you one of them was a McDonald's All American. I
Speaker 7: would pie to the face one of them was a
Speaker 7: McDonald's All American, easily.
Speaker 4: Who was Steve Nash compared to Bob Cousy Mark Price? No,
Speaker 4: he wasn't Mark Price.
Speaker 6: But he was white like Mark Price.
Speaker 4: Well he was white.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still ye just Jack Jack can see a
Speaker 2: Canadian white. Yeah, oh that's even wider. Yes, correct, Uh, No,
Speaker 2: he wasn't Mark Price. That's different.
Speaker 3: Scott Skiles more rangey.
Speaker 4: No, because past.
Speaker 6: First passport pastors point card.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know who Steve Nash would have been
Speaker 4: compared to Stockton.
Speaker 6: Yes, all low, it's all low hanging fruit. When you
Speaker 6: get to the player comps most fun thing.
Speaker 4: And then Keith van Horne he was the next Larry Bird,
Speaker 4: and I go, no, he's not.
Speaker 6: I wish they would stop playing with Larry Bird like that.
Speaker 4: I know you can't.
Speaker 6: You don't do that with him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they do that with Magic also all lamar odom
Speaker 7: the next magic. I said, stop it those two guys
Speaker 7: to me, don't play with those two.
Speaker 2: Uh Luke and Charlotte. Hi Luke, thanks for holding what's
Speaker 2: on your mind today?
Speaker 13: Hey Dan, missed you guys last week. That's my worst
Speaker 13: of the long weekend, best of the long weekend. I
Speaker 13: was able to take my pie of the face for Marvin.
Speaker 13: Tyler's got the video, so I just wanted to let
Speaker 13: you know that I paid up.
Speaker 8: On my bet.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Luke.
Speaker 2: We'll get that from Tyler and we'll show that during
Speaker 2: one of our commercial breaks. If you're watching on Peacock
Speaker 2: Noah in New York, I know.
Speaker 14: What's up DP. I have a few things, including a
Speaker 14: pie of the face for Marvin and a question for
Speaker 14: Polly if you will allow.
Speaker 15: Okay, first of all, it's been about a year and
Speaker 15: a half since you all declined my invitation to our wedding,
Speaker 15: and I know you've been losing sleep, so I just
Speaker 15: want to let you know it all went amazingly. And secondly,
Speaker 15: I know you're being nice to Fritzy now, but in
Speaker 15: the past year and a half, one story that's stuck
Speaker 15: out to me is him following a woman's car for miles.
Speaker 14: Because of something her life plate said.
Speaker 4: Yes, And I just.
Speaker 14: Want to say I feel completely justified in not inviting
Speaker 14: Chritzy for the wedding.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 14: Faith for Marv is simple. It's whoever goes further in
Speaker 14: March madness, my Arizona Wildcats or his Yukon husking.
Speaker 7: Oh that's tough because I don't trust my Yukon Huskies
Speaker 7: this year. And I never trust your Arizona team.
Speaker 5: Oh, I know they always fall for them though I'm
Speaker 5: filling out my bracket. You know this is the year
Speaker 5: that Arizona is really going to make a run.
Speaker 2: Yes, but when the expectation level is low, they could
Speaker 2: be dangerous.
Speaker 4: Marvin.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, that four seed that's when they That's when
Speaker 14: they won it last time in ninety seven. They were
Speaker 14: a four seed only team ever to beat three one seeds.
Speaker 4: Marvin, you want a piece of Noah. As a matter
Speaker 4: of fact, I don't.
Speaker 2: Oh wows well, thank you, Sorry, Noah. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: Marvin is buying a dog. He's scared you're buying a husky.
Speaker 2: I am soft soft soft.
Speaker 4: Off Blake and Illinois h Blake. Wou's on your mind?
Speaker 16: Hey, good morning, Dan and Dan Net's first off, I
Speaker 16: wanted to say thank you Mark for not ripping me
Speaker 16: a new one when I mispronounced your name a couple
Speaker 16: of weeks ago. I definitely didn't hear that correctly, So
Speaker 16: thank you for that. I just wanted to run it
Speaker 16: by you, guys. What would you think about just instead of,
Speaker 16: you know, eliminating the toush push and just keep getting
Speaker 16: these repetitive first yard or one yard runs and stuff
Speaker 16: like that, what if we just eliminate the run within
Speaker 16: the five yard line and just make them past it
Speaker 16: and make it a little bit more competitive.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's good at all. That's more handoff, sir,
Speaker 2: or we can't you can't run the ball? Is that
Speaker 2: what you're saying, Blake, that you can't run the ball
Speaker 2: inside the fine?
Speaker 4: Oh? He hung up?
Speaker 2: Uh Fresh in Milwaukee is back? Hi Fresh some ep?
Speaker 16: Dan.
Speaker 8: It missed you guys when y'all were on vacation. Man,
Speaker 8: did I miss you guys. But talking about Kyrie, I
Speaker 8: think what's going on with these players is we want
Speaker 8: our athletes to want to win championships. It doesn't seem
Speaker 8: like Kyrie or any of these new skill athletes are
Speaker 8: into it. It's like the money is taken over. Are
Speaker 8: we at the point or will we ever get to
Speaker 8: the point in sports where the money is more important
Speaker 8: than championships.
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're already there.
Speaker 2: I think the money is more important with owners than championships.
Speaker 2: I mean, some of these baseball teams they don't spend,
Speaker 2: but they seem to be making a lot of money.
Speaker 2: They are certain NFL teams that don't spend. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they're pining away for that championship.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't put Kyrie at all in the money
Speaker 5: is more important than championships thing. Every team he's joined,
Speaker 5: he's joined because he was trying to win, So I don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe he went to the Celtics because he
Speaker 5: wanted his own team, but that was a team very
Speaker 5: much on the rise. It's not like they were a
Speaker 5: bunch of scrubs there. Then he went to the nets
Speaker 5: and put together what should have been a super team.
Speaker 5: It just didn't work out for some reason. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: put Kyrie at all in that.
Speaker 2: Final hour on the way get a new poll question, Well,
Speaker 2: head to the combine. The coaches in GM's doing their
Speaker 2: best to answer questions while not really answering questions. Final
Speaker 2: hour in this Wednesday, right after this