1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break Asia for this Wednesday, April 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: fifth in Hong Kong, Tuesday April fourth in New York. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Coming up today, US job openings fall and strengthen the 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: case for the Fed to dial back its tightening campaign. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Diamond warns the US banking 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: crisis is not yet over and New Zealand Central Bank 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: may further slow its pace of rate hikes. Later today, 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Donald Trump leads not guilty to thirty four felony criminal 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: counts of fraud. DA says it resembles hundreds of white 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: collar crimes. Trump attorneys say political prosecution, President Chief Courts, 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: President mccron, and Beijing. I'm at Baxter with Global News. 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Breakasia, the business 13 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: news you need to start your day in just one 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: fifteen minute podcast available on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: app and everywhere you get your podcasts. Good morning, I'm 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: Dead Prisoner and I'm Donnie Quinn. We'll update today's leading 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: business stories in a moment. First Global News and our 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: top story. Donald Trump has pleaded not guilty to falsifying 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: business records in an alleged criminal scheme to manipulate the 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election. At Baxter has a global news from 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Newsroman San Francisco, Eddie, It's exactly right. Donald 22 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: Trump is now a criminal defendant. He's been read his 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: rights and anything he says can now be held against him. 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: District Attorney Alvin Bragg says the key element is a 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: cover up alleged hush money to Stormy Daniels. Under New 26 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: York state law is a felony to falsify business records 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: with intent to the fraud and intent to conceal another crime, 28 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: and Bragg says it's just like hundreds of other white 29 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: collar crimes prosecuted in the same way as this one 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: by his office. Ed its core, This case today is 31 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: one with allegations, like so many of our white collar cases, 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: allegations at when live again and again to protect their 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: interests and evade the laws to which we are all 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: held accountable. Trump attorney Joe Tacopina denies that, Well, everyone 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: is not above the law. No one's below it either, 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: And if this man's name was not Nobel J. Trump, 37 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: there is no scenario we'd all be here today. Please 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: understand that based on these charges. Yeah, but Trump's demeanor 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: all day was somber, is noted by Bloombergs Joe Matthew, 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: and Rick Davis. Joe, reading from an early morning Trump's 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: social media post heading to Lower Manhattan the courthouse seems 42 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: so surreal. Wow, they're going to arrest me. Can't believe 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: this is happening in America. Maga. Yeah, I think it's 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: really kind of a somber text for him, right, No 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: all caps going angry on, you know, the prosecutor's wife 46 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: or anything. I mean, like he's been over the top 47 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: on his comments leading up to this and to put 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: that in today and it actually sounds like he's a 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: little worried about it. Now. This is just the first 50 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: of several cases being worked against Trump. Federal appeals court 51 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: has denied a Trump pushed to block a group of 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: former White House advisors from testifying before the Federal Injury investigation, 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: efforting to undermine the twenty twenty elections. Now, Trump is 54 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: back at Marlago for a rally tonight. It is scheduled 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: for eight fifteen Wall Street time. We plan on carrying 56 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: it live. China's President Chi Jumping is pulling out all 57 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: the stops. As French President and Mania mccron visits Beijing 58 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: beginning to day, mccron will have extensive face time with 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: she as China efforts building a wedge between Europe and 60 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: the US. Thursday, European Commission President Ursula Vandaland will join them. 61 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: The three plan on taking an excursion to Guangzhou as well. 62 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: French official site a warming feeling with China heading into 63 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: the visit, and the flag of Finland has been raised 64 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: at NATO headquarters a full fledged member. Now more details 65 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: on that at the bottom of the hour. Global News 66 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalist and analysts 67 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: and over one hundred twenty countries. In San Francisco, I'm 68 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: at Baxter and this is Bloomberg. It's day Breakasia and 69 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: we move next to the Business News and a dire 70 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: warning today about the impact of the banking crisis from 71 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Jamie Diamond, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase. We have 72 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: more from Bloomberg's Denise Pellegrini. Diamond says the banking industry 73 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: problems aren't over yet, and he says the crisis will 74 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: be felt for years. It is annual letter to shareholders. 75 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: Diamond also says regulators shouldn't be tempted to overreact with 76 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: more rules. He says capital rules pushed banks to binge 77 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: on low interest assets in the first place, and then 78 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: those assets lost value as interest rates rose. Diamond also 79 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: calls for governments to consider using eminent domain to accelerate 80 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: investments in renewable energy and in fossil fuels, but he 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: also says, to anyone who thinks he's getting solved, he's 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: still a red blooded, patriotic, free enterprise and free market capitalist. 83 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: Denise Pellegrini Bloomberg Day Breakasia, with the number of available 84 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: job positions in the US decreased from ten point six 85 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: to nine point nine three million. That's according to data 86 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: from the Labor Department's Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey. 87 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: Vacancies were below all estimates in a Bloomberg survey of economists. 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: We got reaction to the numbers from Bloomberg's Michael McKee. 89 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: Under the hood, they're not as bad as they would appear, 90 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: And I'm not sure how you define bad in this case, 91 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: because a decline in job openings is good news for 92 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: the FED because it suggests the labor market gets a 93 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: little bit looser. Enduring strength in the job market remains 94 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: a key hurdle for the Fed as it seeks to 95 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: bring inflation down to its two percent goal. Traders will 96 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: next shift their attention to Friday's monthly jobs report. It's 97 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: currently forecast to show employers added nearly a quarter of 98 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: a million workers in March. Bloomberg Radio and Television. By 99 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: the way, we'll have live coverage of Friday's jobs report 100 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: and special edition of Bloomberg Surveillance starting at seven am 101 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: Eastern and later today, we'll have a decision on interest 102 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: rates from New Zealand Central Bank two pm Local time. 103 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Paul Allen has a preview. The abby Z is 104 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: expected to further slow the pace of interest rate increases. 105 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: This week, the Reserve Bank will raise the official cash 106 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: rate to five percent from four point seven five that's 107 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: according to nineteen of twenty one economists in a Bloomberg survey. 108 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: One expects a fifty basis point move and another sees 109 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: no change. Today's decision comes as a weakening economy suggests 110 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: the end of the arbian Zed's tightening cycle is getting near. 111 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: The Central Bank has been hiking at a record pace, 112 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: but slowed to a fifty point increase in February after 113 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: a seventy five point jump at the end of last year. 114 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: A further deceleration to a twenty five point step may 115 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: indicate the bank no longer expects to reach a peak 116 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: of five and a half percent. Today's ARBI and ZED 117 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: decision is also an interim review rather than a quarterly 118 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: monetary policy statement. Therefore, the Central Bank won't issue new 119 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: forecasts and there is no press conference with Governor Adrian 120 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: or I'm Paul Allen Bloomberg day Breakasia Axel Lehman was 121 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: narrowly reelected as the last chairman of an independent credit suite. 122 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: What was the end of an emotional final annual meeting 123 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: for the Swiss Lander. It came a month after UBS's 124 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: historic deal to buy Credit Suies. It was also the 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: first occasion in years where investors were able to confront 126 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: Credit suisa's management face to face. Previous meetings were held 127 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: virtually due to the pandemic. Speaking to more than seventeen 128 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: hundred attendees, Credit Swiss chairman accele Leman apologized for failing 129 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: to save the bank one legacy issue after another had 130 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: already seen trust eroded and with it patients dwindled, and 131 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: that we failed. It's a bitter reality to see that 132 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: our strategy didn't have time to bear fruit. Separately, shareholders 133 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: also rejected fixed compensation packages for Credit Swiez's executive board 134 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: chairman AXL Leman said he has to look at what 135 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: the next option is for the executive team's pay. It's 136 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: also still unclear which if Credit suisa's top executives will 137 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: survive the takeover by UBS, whose own annual general meeting 138 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: takes place Wednesday. Well, it is a holiday short and 139 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: the week in the US equity markets will be closed 140 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: for the Good Friday holiday. All the bold the bond 141 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: market will trade for a half day since the March 142 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: employmentry data is due at that time. Now, currently the 143 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: swaps market is pricing in a less than fifty percent 144 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: probability that the Fed will hike by twenty five basis 145 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: points in May. Let's take a closer look now at 146 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: all the market action with our guest Joy Yang ahead 147 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: of product management in marketing at market Vector Indexes, who 148 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: happens to be here in New York. Thank you so 149 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: much for joining us today when you look at the 150 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: volatility that we've been seeing in the interest rate space, 151 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: particularly the US treasury market right now, what does that 152 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: tell you about where the economy may be headed. I 153 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: think it's saying, you know, as everywhere, whether it's bond, equities, gold, 154 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: you know, everything is volatile. So this is an indication 155 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: that the market is uncertain what direction is going on, 156 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: and they're hedging their bets. When we've seen today we've 157 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: been watching gold prices. Gold hit two thousand, which is 158 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: a significant band for gold to hit. So you know, 159 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: this is saying, regardless of what is the outcome of 160 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: the market, people are hedging their bets. And you know, 161 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: we've seen gold trading at a band before, but now 162 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: it's breaking its band and it's going up. So we're 163 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: going to watch this space. People are looking for safe havens, 164 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: they're taking risks off the table, and you know, hopefully 165 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: the Fed will also take a pause, as we've seen 166 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: central banks around the world do. Just given there's so 167 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: much noise, we have to really decipher what's real data, 168 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: what's noise, and you know, what's meaningful. If the FED 169 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: were to take a pause, as you advise, what would 170 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: that signal to the market, and also you know, to 171 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: the rest of us, with that signal that the FED 172 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: is confident and inflation coming down with a bit of 173 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: a lag, or would it just the FED might be 174 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: scared about growth and that could also find no way 175 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: advising the FED because this is a very difficult position. 176 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: But certainly, you know, i've as we see Australia do 177 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: it may be prudent to take a pause, but still 178 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: soon know that you know, they're open to either raising 179 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: rates or decreasing. But I think the economic data that 180 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing is lacked, so you know, we don't know 181 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: what it means when we see it in real time, 182 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: but we do have other real time data. We've seen 183 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: a banking crisis that's real time data, and that's pretty 184 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: significant to see that there is fagility in the market 185 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: and that there is some kind of stress that people 186 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 1: are dealing with. Even though the banking crisis now seemingly 187 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror, we're now faced with potentially 188 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: credit crisis, so there's a lot of uncertainty out there 189 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: that people are trying to manage. Well. That seems to 190 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: coincide with what we heard today from Jamie Diamond that 191 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: the lingering effect effects of the banking crisis may be 192 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: with us for some time. If you had to point 193 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: to one area that is particularly rate sensitive, there's been 194 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: so much talk about the potential vulnerability in let's say, 195 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: commercial real estate. Are there pockets interest rate sensitive pockets 196 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: of the economy that are on your radar right now? Yeah? 197 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: And I think we should be careful of classifying all 198 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: commercial property together. So I think, you know, different regions 199 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: will have different sensitivity to interest rate as well as 200 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: you know where the concentration of the industry, you know, 201 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: behind those commercial properties are. So you know, it's it's 202 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: it's difficult to cluster everything together. And I think this 203 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: is an environment where investors have to be discerning. They 204 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: can't look at all banks as one cluster either. And 205 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: we've seen that there are some well run banks that 206 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: don't have liquidity issues, or don't have credit issues, or 207 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: are not concentrated. So you know, it's it's prudent for 208 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: investors also to really you know, separate kind of cheat 209 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: versus just that joy. You mentioned safe havens a moment ago, 210 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: and you talked about gold over two thousand dollars and owns, 211 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: But where are the safe havens. Otherwise, if you think 212 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: about treasuries moving in a range of you know, thirteen 213 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: basis points today twenty basis points on Monday, I mean 214 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: that's kind of ye. So I mean you can think of, 215 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: you know, you can get four five percent with a 216 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: low risk asset, but how long would that last? So 217 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: I think people are still also sensitive to US treasuries, 218 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, high debt. You know, is that actually that safe? 219 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: And so we're also watching, you know, not only go 220 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: a bit bitcoin, because you know, we've seen this as 221 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: an alternative option for investors to think about safe haven 222 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: that's immune to government interaction. That is, you know, theres 223 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: so yes, not in maybe not in the US, but 224 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: certainly around the world. And I think this is a 225 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: global asset, So let's talk about that. How are you 226 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: viewing opportunities offshore right now, particularly in Asia, are you 227 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: finding things that look attractive? Well, some conductors is up 228 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: ninety percent year to date, right um n video is 229 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: up twenty percent year to date. Semi conductors are up 230 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: thirty percent here to date. So this is attractive because 231 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: people are still innovating and artificial intelligence is definitely top 232 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: of the headlines. But Artificial intelligence isn't just about the 233 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: Googles or open AI of this world or the Amazons. 234 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: They're also about the underlying uh you know, components that 235 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: really serve to deliver artificial intelligence, which is going to 236 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: be semi conductors, and that's you know, we have you know, 237 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: semi conductors are globally all over the world, so we're 238 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: seeing you know, kind of innovation and disruption in that area. 239 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: Has geo political risks gone down your list as something 240 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: to be concerned about this year, No, cube particularly We're 241 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: semi conductors are conc Yes, absolutely, we've seen you know 242 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: this on shoring. So a lot of this maybe deglobalization 243 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: of protection is for uh, you know, national industries, so 244 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: that is a high risk, but you know that's you know, 245 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: people are sensitive to that. And again you know, um, 246 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: the supply chain risk is still at play, and you 247 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: know that's even reaching further with China outsourcing to Vietnam, 248 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: Vietnam atsourcing somewhere else, so you know it's getting more 249 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: and more complicated. Joy, how are you viewing the China 250 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: reopening right now? Are we kind of in a bit 251 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: of a period of stasis. There was so much enthusiasm 252 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: right after the pivot away from COVID zero, and there 253 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: was pandump demand that expressed itself not only in markets, 254 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: but in a lot of the data that we saw. 255 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: It seems like things have kind of softened a bit. 256 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: Is that concerning to you? Well, china reopening is the 257 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: positive news for certainly for the emerging market Asian emerging 258 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: market economy, but right now we're also dealing with the 259 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: political risk of bilateral agreements that China is facilitating behind 260 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: the US. So I think it is concerning for the US, 261 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: but you know, relatively to the US, it's potentially positive 262 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: for other economies. Would you put new money to work 263 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: in Asia right now, Let's say China and maybe countries 264 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: like South Korea or taime one. Yeah, it's certainly South Korea, Taiwan, 265 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: to some extent Vietnam. They have the demographics, they have 266 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: the technology, they have kind of the infrastructure to deal 267 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: with some of the innovations that's going to happen with 268 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: China's reopening. 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