1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, you know the car's in trouble when you 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: start it up and there's a knocking sound from the 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: front of the motor. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: It's eleven thousand miles Overdoeing one hundred and eighty five 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: thousand mile Lincoln Town Car. Like, yeah, not's so good. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Don't underestimating the car Doctor. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Now, are the center is fairly universal in the sense 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: that maybe the same center that I would need on 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: my vehicle would sit on another vehicle. Are they that 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: universal or are they pretty model specific? They're universal up 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: to the point of tank design and construction. 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: Us. 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: The garage doors. 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: Are open, but I am here to take your calls 20 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: at eight five five five six oh ninety nine hundred 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: and no. 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: Thanks, I can arrange that pee running. 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: Hey, listeners, thanks for stopping buying joining us today. I'm 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: Monoemium the Car Doctor, obviously, and we're going to kick 25 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: off this hour and start right at the top with 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: Isaac Nielsen. He is a product engineer for Mala Aftermarket, 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: and with the AC season right around the corner, we 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: thought it would be a great time to bring Isaac back. 29 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: We've had him here before and talk a little bit 30 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 2: about air conditioning, the new, the old, the good, the bad, 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: and the dues and the don'ts Isaac, welcome back to 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: the Car Doctor, sir. It's a pleasure to have you. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me Ron. 34 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: You know, let's start at the beginning. If if someone 35 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: is looking to get their AC service, we're not going 36 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: to talk about if it's one thirty four, twelve twelve 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: thirty four yf We're just I want to get the 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: AC serviced in my you know, five, ten, fifteen year 39 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: old car. You know, they're going to take it into 40 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: a shop. And what would the person reasonably expect the 41 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: shop to do to service that air conditioning properly. 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 5: Well, the very first thing for them to do is 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 5: to check the pressures, see if there's even any refrigerant 44 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 5: left in the system. The most of the cases you're 45 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 5: lower basically out of you know, free on a refrigerant 46 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 5: inside that system. So that's going to be indication that 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 5: there's a leak in that system, so they'll recover whatever 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 5: refrigerant if there is any, from that system, and perform 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 5: some sort of leak check on that system. You know, 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: that's been to be the primary thing is to find 51 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 5: that leak and fix it before they even attempt to 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 5: recharge your system. So that's you know, looking for seals 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 5: or condenser leaks, something like that a lot of times. Actually, 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 5: the most common failure point is the straighter port on 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: the low side or high side service port right. 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: Now, depending upon the system. If it's one thirty four, 57 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: there's a different leak check procedure. But if we're driving 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: a newer vehicle, something made since one or when did 59 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: twelve thirty four YF come about twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 2: which isn't so much new, that's a seven year old 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 2: vehicle now already, it's a very different procedure, right that 62 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: they just can't if it has a leak. If it 63 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: has a leak on a one thirty four, well we 64 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: can kind of fill it even though it's illegal, but 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: the shop can get away with that. But twelve thirty 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: four YF, there's safety is in place, to not allow 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: that that might cause that consumer to get a Hey, 68 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: you need you know, five hundred one thousand dollars worth 69 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: of repairs. 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 5: Correct, correct, Yes, the one thirty four A machines, they 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 5: will do if you do pull a vacuum before a charge, 72 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: it will do a vacuum leak check. But there's nothing 73 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 5: on a lot of those one thirty four A machines 74 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 5: that'll prevent you from just doing a straight charge, so 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 5: you could bypass the vacuum leak check, which is obviously 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 5: defeating the whole purpose of bringing a vehicle in and 77 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 5: the fixing the leak, so that there's you know, obviously 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: not as not as good on the Okay, all right, well, yeah, 79 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 5: it's it's it's. 80 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: It's well, it's yeah, take take a breath, brother, it's 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's not as good as it would be. 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: But your I think your point where you're going is that, 83 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: you know, twelve thirty four YF due to the price 84 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: of the refrigerant, there's well not just the price, but 85 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: we're trying to keep the environment safe and clean. The 86 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: machines have a safety in them to require that that 87 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: it get repaired before it gets filled, right, isn't that 88 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: where you're going with that? 89 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 90 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, correct, Yeah, the twelve thirty four YF machines, they're 91 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 5: legislated that basically they have to pass not only a 92 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 5: vacuum leak check, but also a pressure leak check before 93 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 5: we'll leaven filled. There is no such thing as a 94 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 5: top off with a one two three four YF machine, right, 95 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 5: It has to pass all of the both the vacuum 96 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 5: and the pressure leak testing before to leave an attempt 97 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: to charge. 98 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: So, just for giggles, Mike, I've got you know, I'm 99 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: a customer out here and I'm going to take my 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 2: car to an a seat to a shop for air 101 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: conditioning service and they don't have a machine. Is that 102 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: even possible in this day and age? Can a shop 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: not have an AC machine regardless of what type of 104 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: refrigerant we're talking about. 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 5: No, According to the EPA, if you're going to service 106 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 5: any any vehicle that has refrigerant for pay, you have 107 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 5: to have an EPA certified and registered machine. So there's 108 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: no you know, use the old school days of just 109 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 5: using a scale in the gauges for the EPA requirements 110 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 5: that that's illegal and potentially I think it's around a 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 5: twenty thousand dollars. Fine, if they find you servicing refrigerant 112 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 5: without having proper equipment. 113 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: And you look at the specificity, which is a great 114 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: word for air conditioning, right, it's everything specifics. The specificity 115 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: of the amount of refrigerant that goes into some of 116 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,799 Speaker 2: these cars. It's such a small amount, there's no guessing. 117 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 2: You know, when I use my end. I've got a 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: Mala machine. You know that, and everybody else knows that 119 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: when I use either one of my Mala machines, my 120 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: one thirty four, my one two three four YF machine, 121 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: it's so exact in the way that it measured the 122 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: refrigerant and and puts it in, and there's there's just 123 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: certain procedures. So I don't think, you know, not only 124 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: does it hurt the consumer if they're going to a 125 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 2: shop that doesn't have an AC machine, I don't know 126 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: how the shop is getting around it. I mean, we 127 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: all know that there's cheating going on out there, but 128 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: they're doing such a disservice to both themselves, the environment, 129 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: and the customer that it ends up becoming a bigger 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: problem than it needs to be. 131 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean all these machines that are on sale 132 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: now that are certified to the SAE requirements. They're required 133 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 5: to be able to measure refrigerant and charge refrigerant plus 134 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 5: or minus five grams, so extremely accurate compared to you know, 135 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 5: just looking at a gauge and a set scale. 136 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 2: When people when a shop goes to charge a car 137 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: using a machine, let's talk about the Malla machines for example, 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,119 Speaker 2: because I'm so familiar with that being what they are. 139 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes there's a problem you can't get to 140 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: a low side fitting or you can't get to a 141 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: high side fitting. Can you talk about, you know, the 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: host selection process and why it matters. 143 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, so you can charge a car with just the 144 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 5: low side or just the high side. And you know 145 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: different machines will have different strategies. But you know, for 146 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 5: the Mala machines itself, we default to the lp HP selection, 147 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 5: so that means you are hooking up both sides, both 148 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 5: hoses at the same time. We actually recover through the 149 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 5: high side and the low side during that service, but 150 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 5: we would charge only on the high side. Now, if 151 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 5: you had just the LP connection available, we would of 152 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 5: course recover great directly from the LP port and then 153 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 5: charge partially with the LP port. We'd only do about 154 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 5: a fifty charge because we don't want to flood that 155 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: side of the circuit with liquid refrigerant because that would 156 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 5: be bad to lock up the compressor. And then what 157 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,239 Speaker 5: we would do is actually prompt the user to start 158 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: the vehicle to have a vehicle assisted charge at that point, 159 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 5: so we allow the compressor of the vehicle to draw 160 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 5: on the rest of the charge. So this is good 161 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 5: for those really hot environments where it might be difficult 162 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 5: to fully charge a vehicle. So charging on the low 163 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: side and allowing the vehicle to draw in the remaining 164 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 5: charge is almost a guaranteed way to be able to 165 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 5: charge that vehicle. 166 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: So not only does the machine ensure that you're getting 167 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: an accurate charge, it's doing it in a timely manner 168 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: that it doesn't hurt the system. Then it allows the 169 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: system to draw in on its own. If you if 170 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: you have to go in on a low side only 171 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 2: which correct you know, you're you're you're always in control 172 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: and you're always you know, getting the job done and 173 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: safety right, because ac can be a dangerous service if 174 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: you're not handling things correctly. So you know that machine 175 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: is also a part of that as well. Isaac, Let's 176 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: let's pull over and take a pause. When we come back. 177 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: A couple of things I want you to think about. 178 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: I want to talk about if somebody's out there and 179 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: they're getting the machine ready for the season, you know, 180 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 2: what should the shops be thinking about. I want you 181 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about. You know, there was 182 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: conversation in the industry about one thirty four A being 183 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: banned and I don't know where that went. I that 184 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 2: was supposed to happen last year October November last year. 185 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: I don't know where that went. That just sort of 186 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: seemed to fall by the wayside. And then we talk 187 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: a little bit about, you know, oil recovery and what 188 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: the machines can do assisting us to put proper oil 189 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: charge back into the system, because that's a big part 190 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: of the machines as well. Right, so let's let's talk 191 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: about that. I'm running any in the car doctor. I'm 192 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: here with Isaac Nielsen from Mala Aftermarket and we'll both 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: return right after this. 194 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: Don't go away. 195 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 6: For the best in car advice, Give Ron a call 196 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 6: eight five five five six zero nine to nine zero 197 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 6: zero Now back to Ron. 198 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Ronannini and the cardoc Or. I'm here today 199 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: as I was before with Isaac Nielsen. He is a 200 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: product engineer from Mala after Market. Isaac, you're still there. 201 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: I didn't lose you yet, right, Yeah, I'm still here, Ron, 202 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: Cool cool beans. Let's start with the big stuff, right, 203 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: because that lit up the emails and the conversation on Facebook. 204 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to know is there a one thirty four band? 205 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: Did that ever go through or whatever happened with that? 206 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 5: Well, from the OI perspective, model year twenty twenty five 207 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 5: vehicles is the absolute last model year to have one 208 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 5: thirty four eight in new vehicles. So really, you know, 209 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 5: since the twenty five five mile year is basically the 210 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 5: middle of this year, I think the EPA says no 211 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 5: earlier than October twenty twenty four. October twenty fourth, twenty 212 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 5: twenty four is the final production date for any new 213 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 5: vehicles with one thirty four A. Everything after basically from 214 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 5: November of this year forward will all be yf in 215 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 5: the light duty sector. 216 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: Okay, and then we will will that limit one thirty 217 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: four refrigerant availability for service? 218 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 5: So yeah, the ETA has a mandate to limit total 219 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 5: hfc's in the environment proball production based off of the 220 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 5: twenty twenty volumes. So actually in twenty twenty two and 221 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three they were down to ninety percent of 222 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 5: the twenty twenty volumes. But starting in twenty twenty four 223 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 5: here they are down to a sixty percent maximum manufacturing 224 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 5: capacity from those twenty twenty two volumes. But now that's 225 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 5: that's total HFCs. But it will limit some of the 226 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: one thirty four A for sure that is produced and 227 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 5: available in the US. 228 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: So we can expect, with probably a fair chance that 229 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: we can expect to see an increase a in the 230 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: price of one thirty four and be a reduction in 231 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: its availability in the coming years. 232 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 5: Correct, And the EPA is also looking at mandating more 233 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 5: documentation on the transfer of one thirty four A, and 234 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 5: they also want to see a minimum percentage of recovered 235 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 5: one thirty four A with every tank. So in other words, 236 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 5: in the future, it may not be possible to buy 237 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: completely new one thirty four A tanks without any reclaimed 238 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 5: one thirty four A involved. 239 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: Interesting, So in other words, they're saying, if you don't 240 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: take any out, then you're not fixing the car, and 241 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: you're defeating the whole purpose of what we're trying to do. 242 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 2: So they're going to monitor the leaks by looking at 243 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 2: what you recover. YEP. 244 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 5: It'd be very interesting to see how they enforce this 245 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 5: and how this process is going to play out, because 246 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 5: they are looking to have not just any reclaimers being 247 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 5: able to reclaim this one thirty four A, but they 248 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 5: have to be certified. And you know, so your tank 249 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 5: has to come from one of these reclaimers, or at 250 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 5: least a portion of it. 251 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 2: You know, I think one of the best features on 252 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: my mala Ac machines is the printers, right, And I 253 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: always thought that it gave me what's the word I'm 254 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: looking for, not credibility, but proof. Here's what I recovered, 255 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 2: here's what I charged with. And I've always I've always 256 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: said to myself, when does the government get involved? And 257 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: you know they're going to basically be looking over my 258 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 2: shoulder at the printer, going, well, he took a pound out, 259 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 2: he put two pounds in. You know this on this car. 260 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: You know they're gonna be watching and I'm guessing, will 261 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 2: the machines one day dial in and we took this out, 262 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: we put this in and that's how they're going to know. 263 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: You know, you wonder if they could do that, and 264 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: I guess the technology is there that they could. 265 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, the technology is there. However, Yeah, they're right 266 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: now they're looking at more of a paper record. They 267 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 5: haven't looked at the conductnected machines, so I mean, at 268 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 5: least far as keeping the shop data for you know, 269 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 5: you guys keep track of where you're at. You know, 270 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 5: that's why our onboard database is kind of nice to 271 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 5: be able to go through there and you don't have 272 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: to remember to write down every service all the time. Right, 273 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 5: you can go back through there or you know, print 274 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: them to your you know, send them as an email 275 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: or something to have a record that way. So that 276 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: way you're not having to keep all these paper lugs necessarily. 277 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and that's you know, that's the advantage of 278 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: a MALA machine because they have that printer built in 279 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: and they have that ability to record all that talk 280 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: a little bit about we were having a conversation off 281 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: air at the start about reducing oil recovery in our 282 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: in our last couple of three minutes here, Isaac, you 283 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: know what was that all about? About how a shop 284 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: can reduce oil recovery and actually make a more effective 285 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: recovery of refrigerant. Can you talk about that? 286 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean obviously, if you are just going 287 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 5: to build a customer, Okay, you recover some oil, you're 288 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 5: going to charge the customer for that oil that you inject. 289 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 5: But if you run a fleet or you know you're 290 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: doing you know, some of your own services, then you 291 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 5: want to minimize the amount of oil that you do recover. 292 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 5: And especially on YF machines, every time you recover oil 293 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: you need to do a manual oil injection, which can 294 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 5: be kind of a pain and take some time, you know, 295 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: just a little bit more time in the service. So 296 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 5: doing certain things, there's some good tips around the vehicle 297 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: setup that will help minimize the amount of oil that 298 00:15:59,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: you do recover. 299 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 2: And you know, I think one of the tips that 300 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: we were talking about was, you know, it was interesting, 301 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: like I actually I learned something from you today, Isaac 302 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: that and I hadn't I never thought of it like this, 303 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: but to do a refrigerant recovery on number one a 304 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: cool engine, right, we gave I gave you the example. 305 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: So if a car got dropped off on Tuesday, and 306 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: you brought it in Wednesday morning, service the AC in 307 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: the morning prior to using the AC. The car is cool, 308 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 2: the AC hasn't been used recently, so there's less likelihood 309 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: of well, or there's less oil in suspension in the refrigerant, right, 310 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: and then the correct and then the machine won't recover 311 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: as much. And then you talked a little bit about 312 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: the location of the low pressure and the high pressure 313 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: service ports in our last two minutes. What was that about. 314 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, I mean you can take a look at 315 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: the vehicle's AC layout and if you see something like 316 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 5: the LP port being relatively close to the compressor itself, 317 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 5: then that there is a high likelihood that during that 318 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 5: initial in rush of refrigement when you do a recovery, 319 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 5: it could pull some of that oil along with that. 320 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 5: So if you especially I've got a fleet service where 321 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 5: this is a known thing, you know, it's very quick 322 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 5: to determine how how much oil you're pulling in, and 323 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 5: if it's a high amount, you know you can hook 324 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 5: up the HP only port and just redo a recovery 325 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 5: on the high side, and that way that would reduce 326 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 5: the chances of doing some oil pulling in some of 327 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 5: that oil. 328 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: You know, there's there's there's always a way with you 329 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: guys at Mala. You guys are always thinking. So I 330 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: appreciate that, Isaac. I really do listen. I you know, 331 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: our clock's running out. It's going to grab us. If 332 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: the listeners want more information, where's the website? Where do 333 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: they go? 334 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 5: Service solution dot Mala m A h l E dot com. 335 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: Okay, cool beans, And I want to get you back. 336 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: There's other things I want to talk to you about, 337 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: and I know you're busy. You're so hard to get 338 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: ahold of them. We appreciate your value evil time being 339 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: here with us today, Isaac is always It was a pleasure, sir, 340 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: And you know we expect great things from you guys 341 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: as you lead us into the future regarding AC machines, 342 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: as you have continued to do so and be the 343 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: pioneers that you are. Thanks Isaac, I appreciate your time today. 344 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Ron, You're very welcome. I'm running 345 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: Annie in the car Doctor. I'll return right after this. 346 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: Don't go away. 347 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 4: Happy Welcome back listeners, run An Aenie and the car Doctor. 348 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: I want to once again thank Isaac Nielsen for taking 349 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: the time and talking to us about air conditioning and 350 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: you know, the the upcoming season and everything that's going 351 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: to be there, because air conditioning is such an important 352 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: part of the automobile and we want to be cool, 353 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: and obviously you want to do it right, we want 354 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: to do it safe. So let's get back to the phone. 355 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: Let's go over to Jeff from Waynesboro, Virginia and see 356 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: what's going on here. Jeff, welcome to the car doctor, sir, 357 00:18:58,920 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: How can I help? 358 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 6: All right? Thank you. I've got a twenty fourteen ram 359 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 6: my wife's car. Okay, I'm it's one hundred and twenty 360 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 6: thousand miles, mostly highway miles. We have not changed the transfluid. 361 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 6: And I'm back and forth about whether I should change 362 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 6: three or four quarts whatever comes out of the drain, 363 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 6: and should I use Toyota fluid or can I use 364 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 6: Valveline pholosynthetic or some other brand, or what's your thoughts 365 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 6: on with your thoughts on it? You know, I'm told 366 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 6: one hundred thousand miles don't don't fill with it? 367 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: Well, and here's here's the fear. Here's the fear that 368 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: everybody has, Jeff, is that transmission fluid is a very 369 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: high detergent, scrubbing type of fluid. Okay, back in the 370 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: old days, when dirt was invented and I was a kid, 371 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 2: we used to literally are re ring small block chevies 372 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: in the bay of the gas station, and we'd clean 373 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 2: the cylinders after we broke the glaze using you know, 374 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 2: we would break the glaze using a cylinder home. You know, 375 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: back then, I thinks we're just more so archaic, and 376 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: we would break the glaze with the cylinder. We hone 377 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: the cylinders, and then we would wash the cylinder walls 378 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: with trans fluid. We would take a white rag and 379 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: we would scrub it until they were clean, because the 380 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: transfluid has such a high detergent, high scrubbing action. You know, 381 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: fast forward fifty years, things have changed a little bit. 382 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: The concern becomes that transmission fluid because of its detergent 383 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: nature and scrubbing action so to speak. You know, transfluid 384 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: as it ages, like any hydraulic fluid, it'll leave a varnish, 385 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 2: it'll leave sediment inside the trans So we now induce 386 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 2: this new fluid in there, and what does it do. 387 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: It scrubs away at the particulate and it'll break pieces 388 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: loose if there's any, all right, and it'll create a problem. 389 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: But here's where I kind of have that span of guilt, 390 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 2: or you know, I have no fear. I say change 391 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: the fluid, and I'll and I'll tell you why. If 392 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: the trans is that varnished up that you know it's 393 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 2: able to find a piece with clean trans fluid and 394 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: create an issue, You're going to have a problem anyway. 395 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 2: You know the problem was going to show up at 396 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: some point. I like changing fluid on the basis that 397 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: my thought process is, I say change the fluid now, 398 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: and now you're watching for it. Right, two weeks goes by, 399 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: three weeks goes by. If thirty days from the time 400 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: you change that fluid nothing's happened, you're in the clear. 401 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: If something happens, at least you're prepared. Okay, Now I've 402 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: got to put a trans in it, which I was 403 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: probably headed for anyway. All right, that being said, this 404 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: is a twenty fourteen rav This uses Toyota WUS fluid, 405 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: all right, which is their world class fluid. It's different 406 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 2: than their type four. And you know this also doesn't 407 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: have a dipstick. Correct, there's no dipstick on. 408 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 6: This trend right, yep. 409 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: So you're gonna get on a good day, you'll get three, 410 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: maybe three and a half quarts out of this trans 411 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: This is about a six and a half almost seven 412 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 2: court trands, depending upon the size of the cooler, you'll 413 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: get a little over fifty percent out of it. You 414 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 2: could go through the pain and suffering of trying to 415 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: undo the trans cooler hoses at the bottom of the radiator. 416 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 2: But the car is ten years old, it's it's probably 417 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: been exposed to some Virginia winters. There's definitely been some 418 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: corrosive material thrown down on the highway, right, and you 419 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: know at that point you're probably gonna break something before 420 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: you get it apart. So you know, if we want, 421 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: what I would do is and also if we do 422 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: you know, if we do fifty percent of the fluid, 423 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: it's not such a shock to the system, right, it's 424 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: sort of weird. We're gonna do this. We're gonna do 425 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: this slowly, yeah, and you know, maybe we'll do it twice. 426 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do it now and then in five thousand 427 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: miles we'll do it again, all right. Ws WS fluid 428 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: has an additive package. All transmission fluids have additive packages. 429 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: Every manufacturer runs a different you know, they vitamin A, 430 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 2: vitamin B, vitamin C kind of a thing, because in essence, 431 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: all transfluid is hydraulic oil obviously to make the hydraulics 432 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 2: of the transmission work. And then engineer A puts in this, 433 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: and engineer B puts in that, and engineer C puts 434 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 2: in the other thing, and you know, it varies by manufacturer. 435 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 2: I think you're fine doing it in bite sized pieces. 436 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: Whose fluid would I use? I've never you know, I've 437 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: looked at this synthetic transfluid thing. I've never seen an advantage. 438 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: I'm not saying not to you know, if it makes 439 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: you feel better and if it works, hey great. You 440 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: don't necessarily need to use Toyota fluid as long as 441 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 2: the fluid you're using is Toyota rated. The truth is okay. 442 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 2: There's a company out there called Idumetsu, which is a 443 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 2: real great name to say. If you can say it, 444 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: then you kind of walk around saying, yeah, you do 445 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: met suited up, just because it's a tough word to say. 446 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: But when you see it, you'll understand. When you read 447 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: it on the bottle, Eimetsu is the manufacturer for the 448 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: majority of transmission fluids on the Japanese cars out in 449 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: the world. All right, you will find it. You will 450 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: find it at AutoZone. You will find it. You know, 451 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: you might even find your local Toyota dealer is using 452 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: e du Metsu fluid or you might find and I've 453 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: seen this from time to time. Toyota will send me 454 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: bottles when I reorder if I can't get it from 455 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: my local supply house, and it'll say manufactured by you 456 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: to Metsu on the Toyota bottle, and you go look 457 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 2: at that. So as long as it meets Toyota spec 458 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: read the back of the bottle, you know, that's where 459 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: all the information is. It's gotta meet WS classification, all right, 460 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: and as long as it does that, you're good. I'd 461 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 2: buy buy eight quarts, all right. So this way, when 462 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: you do it twice, you're good. When you do this, 463 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: you know I would probably do the first time around. 464 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 2: I'd do it after the vehicle sat overnight, so all 465 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: the edment's at the bottom. This is a you want 466 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: to make sure you're going to take the driver's side 467 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: tire off after you get it up on jack stands. 468 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 2: You're going to take the driver's side tire off, take 469 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: the plastic skirt. There's a couple of ten millimeter bolts 470 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: up there. Take the plastic skirt out and you'll be 471 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: looking at the hecks. I believe it's eight or ten milimeter, 472 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: I can't remember which. And that's the fill, all right. 473 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: So obviously I always whenever I teach mechanics, I always 474 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 2: tell them you want to take the fill out before 475 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 2: you take the drain out, because if the fill's frozen 476 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: in place and you take the drain out, now you 477 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: got a problem. You know, yeah, yeah, right, you know 478 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: it's listen. The first thing whenever I when I when 479 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: I when I break in a new mechanic and I 480 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: teach them to basics and we're doing an oil change, 481 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: all right. You don't want to come to Ron's oil 482 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: change class. It takes about two hours to get through 483 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 2: the first one, all right. The first thing I teach 484 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: him to do is the driver's side window goes down 485 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: as soon as the car comes in the shop, because 486 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: if you lock the keys in the car, you don't 487 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: want to look stupid and you pop the hood. You 488 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: always pop the hood. And they're like, why a go 489 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: They're like the drain cap isn't gonna be stuck. I said, 490 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: that's right, I said, but the hood latch might be broken, 491 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: and then you can't open the hood. Then what do 492 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: you do? Oh, it's you. I never thought of that. Well, yeah, 493 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 2: you know. So you know, get the tire off, get 494 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: the skirt off, open that drain up, and then you're 495 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: gonna find you're gonna put a drain pan underneath. Make 496 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,239 Speaker 2: sure it'll hold five quarts because you're only gonna get 497 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: out three and a half or four, all right, and 498 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna take that plug out. There is a plastic 499 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: extension of fluid. Is the best way to explain it. 500 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 2: It's the bird bath. It's the bird bath spillover. It's 501 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 2: a six millimeter socket that comes out, and now the 502 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: fluid comes out. So you're gonna take out the drain plug, 503 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 2: the metal plug, and then and then the bird bath. 504 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: All right, then the spout, the spout over, you know, 505 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: that comes out, All the fluid comes out. You want 506 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: to take the pan down, Go ahead, I don't think 507 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: you need to Toyota is gonna be screen. It's not 508 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: a filter. You know. Again, if the screen is that dirty, 509 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: you've got a bigger problem, all right, you know, unless 510 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: the pan's leaking, and that one, that one little six 511 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 2: millimeter bolt in the corner on the driver's side of 512 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: the cradle is always kind of tough. You need a 513 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: good ten millimeters swivel and some dextery to get it out. 514 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: I think, I think it's a waste of time. But 515 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of straightforward. And then when you 516 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: fill it, you you know, you're gonna fill it just 517 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: like procedure. You're gonna put the bird bath piece back in. 518 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: You're gonna pump about two quarts in it. You'll start 519 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: it up, and then you're gonna start adding fluid until 520 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: it spills over, and then you're gonna count drops. Oh, 521 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 2: you know, get it up the temperature. If you want 522 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: to put the drain plug, all the drain plugs back 523 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: in so it's sealed, Get a couple of quartz, three 524 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 2: quarts in it. Let it run, Let it get warm, 525 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: all right. If your hands are kind of tough and 526 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: gnarly and you can just grab the bottom of the 527 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: pan and you know, just tap it. Okay, Yeah that's warm, Yeah, 528 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: that's warm. Yeah, that's coming up to ten. You know, 529 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: you get it up to about one hundred and sixty 530 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 2: five one hundred and eighty degrees of temperature. That's about 531 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 2: where you want to be. You could do it by 532 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: scan tool. They give you a specific procedure to go 533 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: by a number, but you know, you sort of touch 534 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: it and go, yeah, it's hot. I've never you know, 535 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 2: I've never found it to vary that much, Jeff. 536 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 6: But right, this works. 537 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this, this works. And then and then when you're 538 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: done running through the gears, drive to reverse again. I've 539 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: never found it to very I've never added fluid. Once 540 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: I get to this point, and then I'm just going 541 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: to take the bottom plug out. The bird bath will 542 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 2: spill over whatever it is. I top it up, I'm done, 543 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 2: button it up, and you're good to go. 544 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this. That thing doesn't have a 545 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 6: drop of fluid, no leakage. If I put exactly what 546 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 6: came out of it, I'll probably be fine. But no, 547 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 6: I should not. 548 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, absolutely you can. You can do it that 549 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: way too. That's the other scientific way. You know. Have 550 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: a have a get to get a bottle of washer fluid, 551 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: a gallon bottle of washer fluid with a funnel. When 552 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 2: you drain it out. Okay, this is what I took out. 553 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: There's what I'm putting back in now. Maybe it's a 554 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: smidge low, so you still want to go through the 555 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: fluid level check right right right, but you'll you'll be 556 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: right in the neighborhood, all right, kiddo. 557 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 6: So yes, sir, thank you very much. 558 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: You're very welcome. And like I said, you can get 559 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: down to your local auto zone. Tell them you're looking 560 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: for Toyota WS fluid. It'll probably say you do Metsu 561 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: on the bottle. It'll be the Metsu branded and you'll 562 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: be just fine. 563 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 6: All right, got it, got it? 564 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 565 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 6: Certainly respect your opinion. 566 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe. I appreciate it. If you need more, 567 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: you know where to find me. Yes, sir, appreciate it. Yes, sir, 568 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: have a great day. I'm running any in the card Doctor. 569 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this. 570 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: Don't go away and. 571 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: We are back. Welcome back, listeners, running any in the 572 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: car Doctor. Here. 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Historically, 599 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: we MALA default to the low pressure port because if 600 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: the car AC system was used recently, then the system 601 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: pressures may not have equalized yet, so that means higher 602 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: pressure or high pressure on the high high pressure side, 603 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: which equals faster gas interests that will actually bring more 604 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: oil with it. Also, the high pressure side is likely 605 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: to have more oil in suspension since it is post 606 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: compressor where most of the oil is being put into suspension. 607 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how it came across, but I just 608 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: want to make sure I explained it right and that 609 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: nobody hears well. Mala said only to recover from the 610 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: high pressure port. No, I don't think anybody did, Isaac. 611 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: And to recount that, what Isaac is referencing is that 612 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: in AC service, it's important to consider how the vehicle 613 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: is just used and where to recover from, as far 614 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: as you know, high side, low side or both. In 615 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: some cases you know there's moments where you're going to 616 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: do that as well. But you know, again, we take 617 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: what you just said to heart, Isaac, and we're aware 618 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: of it. And so for clarification, if anybody has any 619 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: additional questions or comments, by all means you can drop 620 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: us a line. You know, the bottom line comes back 621 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: to and I don't know if we stress this enough 622 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: that if you're working on air conditioning going forward, there 623 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 2: are very stringent rules effect now and very stringent rules 624 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: for the future. And some of that is not just 625 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: the EPA, it's the design of the systems. The vehicles 626 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: today are so specific that there is no margin of 627 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: error in order to replicate and have that g it's 628 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: just as cold as the day it was news syndrome, 629 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: new syndrome. So you know, it takes a machine, it 630 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: takes an accurate machine, it takes a trained operator. Air 631 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 2: Conditioning isn't anything like it used to be. You know, well, 632 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: i'm twenty years ago, but twenty five years ago where 633 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: it was much simpler systems, and the systems were much 634 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: larger and more forgiving in the case of slightly erroneous 635 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: refrigerant amounts. So today they have to be spot on 636 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: in order for them to work correctly. And I want 637 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 2: to mention that as well. I don't know if that 638 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: came out enough in my conversation with Isaac, So take 639 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: it from there. I'm running ady in the card doctor. 640 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 2: Let me pull over and take a pause. We'll be 641 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: back right after this. 642 00:32:53,200 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: Don't go away. 643 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: Well that about doesn't for me this hour, listeners, and 644 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: I want to thank you for being here and spending 645 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: time with me. I know you've got a lot of 646 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: choices to do on the weekend, and I'm glad we 647 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: can get together and talk cars, and you know we 648 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: can all learn and I learned from I learned from 649 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 2: you just as much as you learn from me. I 650 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: want to point out regarding air conditioning, we talked an 651 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: awful lot about procedure today and the maintenance of the system, 652 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: and you know how to properly use a machine. And 653 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: we were glad to have Isaac with us. As well 654 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 2: as the calls that we got this hour, We're glad 655 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: to have everybody. I want to point out that you know, 656 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: ac season is upon us, and there's a couple of 657 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: things we didn't talk about. We want to talk about 658 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: cabin filters. The actual sometimes referred to as a pollen 659 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 2: filter or the cabin filter. The filter that is inside 660 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: the vehicle, usually accessed somewhere in the glovebox area, depending 661 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: upon your vehicle, your make, model, et cetera. But it's 662 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: important to know that that filter has been serviced and 663 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: replaced prior to AC system, and you really should be 664 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: doing it every fifteen thousand miles. Maybe a little more, 665 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: maybe a little less. It depends on your part of 666 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: the country. But you know, pull a filter out at 667 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand miles as a rule of thumb, and you'll 668 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 2: be amazed. Yes, cap'in filters get dirty really, really quickly. 669 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: And of course let's go in the shop this week 670 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: courtesy of AutoZone and AutoZone pro dot com. Keep in 671 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: mind if we're trying to educate our customers about air conditioning. 672 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: We talked a lot about air conditioning this hour. Get 673 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 2: out to the if you're using autozonepro dot com, get 674 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 2: out to and look at the website. They've got a 675 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 2: great marketing section there, but they've also got a section 676 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: where you can download information so that you know. They 677 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: have some great wall charts. They've got some great counter 678 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: display stuff that you can educate your customers about air conditioning. 679 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys know this, but I like them. 680 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: I use them. They're good color, and they're very well 681 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: laid out and very neat and clean looking, so you 682 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 2: may want to do that too. You can get those 683 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 2: through autozonepro dot com, but definitely a plus for you 684 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: and your customers. Keep that in mind till the next time. 685 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: I'm on an ady in the car doctor and are 686 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: reminding each and every one of you the mechanics are expensive, 687 00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 2: their prices 688 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 6: Ships