WEBVTT - How Audience Testing Works

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from HowStuffWorks dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's

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<v Speaker 2>Charles w Chuck Bryant, and Jerry's over there. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>just call this Stuff you Should Know, shall we.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's a good name for a show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I came up with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You did, You're the inventor, and from that was hatched

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<v Speaker 1>all of the stuff podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I mean how Stuff Works stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't know. I think you're not you're

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<v Speaker 1>selling yourself short.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is another one of our movie centric podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>that people seem to love. We've done all kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 1>from exploitation films to movies that change filmmaking, to how

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<v Speaker 1>films are rated.

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<v Speaker 2>The n p A, n PAA, how TV ratings work. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>ten exploitation films, Yeah, that was a good one, and

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<v Speaker 2>some movies that changed filmmaking. That's right, all the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>you just said.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, before we get going here, buddy, we need a

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<v Speaker 1>blanket spoiler because we're going to be talking about movies

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<v Speaker 1>that had their endings changed, and so this is your

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<v Speaker 1>fair warning. Most of them are old movies. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>this information is out there, of course, yes, But if

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<v Speaker 1>you're one of those people who gets really upset by

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of thing, you may want to You've been warned.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been warned. And now drum roll, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about audience testing, which is depending on the filmmaker

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<v Speaker 1>and the film can be a really super awesome, valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>Tool, all right, it can also be like a terrible

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<v Speaker 2>the worst thing that's ever happened to you. Yep, And

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<v Speaker 2>apparently even if you believe in the system, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible experience, says Ron Howard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a fame, well not famous for but he

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<v Speaker 1>is on record along with his producing partner Brian Graser

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<v Speaker 1>for who.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, do you know this about Brian Grazer.

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<v Speaker 1>Best hair and show business?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, clearly, yeah. But he has the habit of taking

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<v Speaker 2>frame pictures of himself over to people's houses and when

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<v Speaker 2>they're not looking, he'd like plants them among their family photo.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty awesome, pretty cool. That reminds me. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you hate George Cloinney's guts, but there's you said that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a famous practical he's a big practical joker and

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<v Speaker 1>he prepared this one over the course of like a year,

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly told like his best friends that he had taken

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<v Speaker 1>up painting. Oh yeah, just kept that going and going,

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<v Speaker 1>and then like gave some of his close friends he's awful,

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<v Speaker 1>awful paintings, right, and you know you're kind of expected

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<v Speaker 1>to hang it up, right, They're like, oh, thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>George, Yeah, that's a pretty good one.

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<v Speaker 1>This is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but he felt so good about himself after.

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<v Speaker 1>That, so glib so. Ron Howard and his producing partner

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Gratzer are on record as saying that they really

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<v Speaker 1>can get a lot out of it, and like what

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<v Speaker 1>they would hate is to put a movie out and

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<v Speaker 1>find out there's something they really easily could have corrected,

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<v Speaker 1>either like confused or upset an audience as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>But he also said it's terrible to go through. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like even when it's a good experience, it's never a

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<v Speaker 1>good experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's somebody who believes in the system. If you

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in the system and you still have to

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<v Speaker 2>go through it, like Robert Altman did.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not a test audience kind of guy. No, can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine putting him through that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's like letting all of the town's ladies bring

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<v Speaker 2>Boo Radley that the pies for killing Bob Yule. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't put Robert Altman through the audience testing system.

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<v Speaker 2>Who did they? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, a dummy because yeah, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>Maverick filmmaker. My brother and my Emily worked on movies

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<v Speaker 1>with him. It's pretty neat legend. I know, it's good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could tell a couple of the stories.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, did you expect to get rich off

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<v Speaker 2>of a Robert Altman movie? No, apparently these people did.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what his top grossing movie ever was. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>The Player or Mash I'll bet it was Mash. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>movies didn't gross so much back then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's just it's a perennial classic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>The Player was great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he's He's made a lot of great

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<v Speaker 1>movies and some kind of stinkers as well. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of classics like Ashville. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen Nashville?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I never saw in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>So good?

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<v Speaker 2>So the Player shortcuts? Yeah, I didn't see the uh

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<v Speaker 2>the Lake Woble Gone one with Lindsay Lohan for some reason. What. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they did Pie Home Companion. Yeah, with Lindsay Lohan. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just weird and Meryl Street. Hum, it was like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>getting casting director super drunk. Yeah, they just have a

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<v Speaker 2>point out photos head shots and then that's how we'll

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<v Speaker 2>cast this.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and then McKay and miss Miller and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>classic as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Never even heard of it more and Beaty liked mash though.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so Ron Howard calls the process brutal and hideous. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, even if it's going well, it's not fun. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Francis Ford Coppola is somewhat responsible, although they have tested

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<v Speaker 1>movies all the way back in the thirties. Yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>audience has said, you know that somewhere over the Rainbow

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<v Speaker 1>song really slows things down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a stinker. Get it out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness they didn't listen, because that became one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most iconic singing performances ever in a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and apparently pointing that out is a really good

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<v Speaker 2>way to talk somebody out of cutting something a test audience, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>think about somewhere over the Rainbow. Chief.

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<v Speaker 1>So when Coppola was making Apocalypse Now. He had focus

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<v Speaker 1>groups and.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, I would not have guessed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen The Hearts of Darkness, right, No, the documentary

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<v Speaker 2>about it, Yeah, no, it's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a lot of studio heat coming down on him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you've got a great movie when the documentary

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<v Speaker 2>about your great movie is a great movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his wife made.

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<v Speaker 2>That, although that's not necessarily true. The best worst movie

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<v Speaker 2>was a great documentary, and Trolls two was not a

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<v Speaker 2>good movie in any way, shape or form.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of best worst movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about have you ever heard of Trolls two?

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard of Trolls so, I guess I've heard of Trolls.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, apparently made by totally different filmmakers, completely unconnected story

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<v Speaker 2>wise and everything. This is just Trolls two, gotcha? And

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<v Speaker 2>this documentary caught up with the people from Trolls Too,

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<v Speaker 2>because it became like kind of this cool hipster thing

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<v Speaker 2>to like, look, how terrible this movie is, like the

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<v Speaker 2>Room Sure, and this documentary kind of followed this movement

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<v Speaker 2>and went and found the people who were in this

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<v Speaker 2>movie who had no idea this was going on, and

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<v Speaker 2>then like basically puts him on the road going around

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<v Speaker 2>promoting showings of Trolls Too and just living it up.

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<v Speaker 2>That was great documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>The documentary is good.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie wasn't good, right, Okay, so I ate my

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<v Speaker 2>own words, understood, No you didn't. But I think one

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<v Speaker 2>of your pals from UCB.

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<v Speaker 1>Is in it Controls Too.

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<v Speaker 2>In the best worst movie the documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know one of the founders, No, not Matt Besser.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it might be Matt Besserer. Maybe I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>one of the guys from you. There's like a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of UCB people in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but okay, I got you. Besser was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the founding members though, with Amy Poehler and Ian Roberts

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<v Speaker 1>and Matt Walsh.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Matt Walsh is the one that was in old school, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is the other Matt. Yeah, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>might be in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a good guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He listens to our show, Prove me wrong, Matt, prove

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<v Speaker 2>me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Razorbacks, that's for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's an Arkansas fan or he just really likes Razorbacks. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a Arkansas guy, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's just a fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the big are we had an ad break yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Not yet, not until I finished the story about Coppola.

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<v Speaker 1>He when he was making Apocalypse Now, hired a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Joe Farrell or Farrell to help with marketing, and

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<v Speaker 1>Farrell said, you know what, I see a pretty big

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity here, and so he partnered up with Katherine Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>Para and formed the National Research Group. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're still exclusive, but at the time

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<v Speaker 1>signed all the studios to an exclusive contract to do

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<v Speaker 1>their audience testing. And I think there's still the top

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<v Speaker 1>dog in audience testing, even though I think there are

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<v Speaker 1>other companies that do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is the company with the extraordinarily secretive name NRG,

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<v Speaker 2>the National Research Group. Yeah, and they also do like

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<v Speaker 2>contract hits I think for the CIA and the NSA.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but they don't have a website that I could find,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was trying to just get a little information

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<v Speaker 1>about the company.

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<v Speaker 2>But so they're a division of Nielsen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, which of course they're super secretive.

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<v Speaker 2>We already tell they are. But yeah, so it's crazy

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<v Speaker 2>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a cabal.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, very much. So Randy Quaid was right,

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<v Speaker 2>you might be.

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<v Speaker 1>And they don't just do audience testing. They also, back

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<v Speaker 1>when people had telephones, would do a lot of just

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<v Speaker 1>random calling and saying like market research, like did you

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<v Speaker 1>know this movie was coming out?

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<v Speaker 2>It's called awareness.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, awareness campaigns and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they'd split you into four quadrants, right, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the four quadrants that everyone on the planet is

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<v Speaker 2>divided into men under twenty five, men over twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>women under twenty five, and women over twenty five. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it. There's the division of importance. At age

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five, you cross over and get put out to

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<v Speaker 2>pasture basically. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the longest setup in history.

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<v Speaker 2>So wait a minute. I want to make sure I

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<v Speaker 2>understand what you're saying, because I made a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>jokes in the middle of all this.

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<v Speaker 1>They were flying.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're saying that NRG, the National Research Group, came

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<v Speaker 2>out of focus groups done for apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Yes, that's the way I understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Yeah, I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but they were already doing focus groups, but this

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<v Speaker 1>company really ran with it, I think in the corner

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<v Speaker 1>of the industry. Yeah, I got you, all right, So

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<v Speaker 1>let's take that promised break and we'll talk more about

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<v Speaker 1>audience testing right after this. All right, back with audience testing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's many different reasons to test your movie. Yeah, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>if it's a comedy, they will literally do multiple screenings

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<v Speaker 1>just to test little bits and little jokes.

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<v Speaker 2>If that makes sense to me. Yeah, if you're testing

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<v Speaker 2>a comedy, totally makes sense. Because a couple of comedy

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<v Speaker 2>writers that you put into like a room and say,

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<v Speaker 2>write this hilarious movie or take this dog of a

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<v Speaker 2>movie and punch it up with some jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very subjective.

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<v Speaker 2>It might sound fun to you, sure, but then you're

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<v Speaker 2>a movie executive and you had like a three scotch launch,

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<v Speaker 2>so everything seems kind of funny right now, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Yeah, sixties right, so I get I

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<v Speaker 2>get that, and then like this joke landed, this joke didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>This joke was too far, and it like went against

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<v Speaker 2>like what the what the character we've developed so far?

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<v Speaker 2>That and that to me makes sense, Yeah, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>see audience testing to that end.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, you see the value.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's like should this explosion be seventy percent

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<v Speaker 2>more explosive, well, or should this guy's brain splatter, like

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<v Speaker 2>more or less?

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<v Speaker 1>Well with the violence, you have a point they that

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<v Speaker 1>is something they will also test for it like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you turned off by the amount of violence?

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<v Speaker 2>Could we dial it back a little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the movie that was given an example in

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<v Speaker 2>this article of of something that was found to be

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<v Speaker 2>too violent?

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<v Speaker 1>Good Fellas? Yes, yeah, that was in a mental Thos article, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Goodfellas the audience like he had and that was the

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<v Speaker 1>first movie Scorsese had ever tested.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and yeah, that's another guy I don't see like

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<v Speaker 2>testing stuff. I'm really surprised about Apocalypse Map.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like I said, it was studio heat, Yeah, I gotcha.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Scorsese, I think like forty or fifty people walked

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<v Speaker 1>out in the first ten minutes because of the violence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said that they didn't like that third act

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, just they thought it was too intense, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently very drawn out, way more drawn out than

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<v Speaker 2>it even is now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they thought the ending of Goodfellows is too intense.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and again very drawn out. So he went to

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<v Speaker 2>a quick cut montage thing, yeah, which actually ended up

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<v Speaker 2>making it better because Henry Hill is like coke to

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<v Speaker 2>the gills at this point. Sure, and like that whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing where like he's looking driving, watching the helicopter that's

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<v Speaker 2>following him. Yeah, and it's like chop, chop, chop. It

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<v Speaker 2>really gets the point across.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was. It was very effective. So it worked

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<v Speaker 1>in that case. I think, yes, right, the system works. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. It worked in that case.

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<v Speaker 1>So how these things work is, if you live in

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<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles area and you go to the mall,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're even in a movie line, you've probably

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<v Speaker 1>been approached or seeing the people with clipboards, don't run

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<v Speaker 1>away because they are not trying to sell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to give you something, which is a free screening,

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, and they'll come and sign you up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I ask if you're interested, Hey, we got a new

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<v Speaker 1>Owen Wilson movie that we're screening in Burbank next Friday night.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody starts murmuring, oh oh, I love him. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a national treasure. And everybody starts signing up.

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<v Speaker 1>What's with the nose?

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<v Speaker 2>He got a broken when he was younger.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like more than once. I liked that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fix it.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, Yeah, he was a smart alec.

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<v Speaker 1>That thing is just like so crooked, and he's just like, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>this is me.

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<v Speaker 2>He said. He always expected to do something like go

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<v Speaker 2>into advertising or whatever. But if you're a buddy of

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<v Speaker 2>Wes Anderson's from a young age, yeah, going into movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I'm a big fan of him and his nose. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're gonna get approached. Like I said, probably in

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<v Speaker 1>LA but they do test all over the country. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we've talked about will it play in Peoria? Yeah, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they want to go to Ohio and see what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>someone outside of the LA area feels about the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. But the reason that your chances are vastly higher

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<v Speaker 2>of being asked to be in a test audience for

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<v Speaker 2>a movie in Los Angeles is because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times the people working on the movie who live in

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<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles have to attend these things. Yeah, because not

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<v Speaker 2>only do they want to, they want to get the

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<v Speaker 2>feedback from it, which we'll find out about that. They

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<v Speaker 2>also want to experience it firsthand, sure, so they get

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<v Speaker 2>a real feel for how the audience is responding.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And if you're eighteen to thirty four, you're more

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<v Speaker 1>likely to get approached because that's the sweet spot of

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<v Speaker 1>course that you talked about. Yeah, if you're older than that,

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<v Speaker 1>then forget it.

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<v Speaker 2>No one cares about you.

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<v Speaker 1>No one cares about you.

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<v Speaker 2>Give up all of your dreams and work and yep,

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<v Speaker 2>smoke a pipe, be quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. If you are an assistant editor or in

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<v Speaker 1>any part of the editing crew, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a hellish experience because you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be scrambling trying to timp in music and temp in

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<v Speaker 1>special effects, like some really hackneyed version of special effects,

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<v Speaker 1>just so they know, like in the scene it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a spaceship.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the editors like, well, I can just cut

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<v Speaker 2>to this stock quick time footage of a spaceship landing

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<v Speaker 2>and get the point across, Like sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're going to be scrambling trying to put together

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<v Speaker 1>as much of a finished project as they can, and

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<v Speaker 1>most of the times they will also be at the theater.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to queue it up and watch it just

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure it's ready to roll. Yeah, before the

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<v Speaker 1>audience sees it, you're gonna have a moderator. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever been to a test screen?

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<v Speaker 2>No of you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's neat what I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, it must not have been very good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a long time ago. Yeah, that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that movie. It wasn't. I did watch that

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<v Speaker 1>the other night though, in full.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that was. That was one of the songs that

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<v Speaker 2>I sang at piano karaoke, A couple of dollars songs.

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<v Speaker 2>Sang that you mean and I sang I was in

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<v Speaker 2>the stream.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well that she did the Kenny Rogers part and

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<v Speaker 1>you did the Dolly part.

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<v Speaker 2>We switched it up a little. Yeah, very hard song

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<v Speaker 2>to sing, by the way, and that movie holds up.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it's still very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the great Dabney Coleman, great Lily Commlin, the great

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<v Speaker 2>Dolly Parton, great Jane Fonda, the great Jane Fonda.

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<v Speaker 1>So good, and you know, the three of them, like

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a great shoot. There were best buds,

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<v Speaker 1>and they remained friends all these years later.

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<v Speaker 2>You can tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of neat. Uh all right, So where

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<v Speaker 1>was I? Oh, Yeah, someone's gonna introduce the movie and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get you all excited and like everyone's glad

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. So you know when Wilson's new movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, everybody reach under your seat for some pre red vines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, might get little free something you never know,

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<v Speaker 1>And they're going to explain, like, what you're about to

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<v Speaker 1>see is gonna be a little rough in parts and

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<v Speaker 1>the effects aren't complete, so just don't take that into account. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not looking for like, well, maybe you should color

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<v Speaker 2>correct it a little more before you release it. They're

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<v Speaker 2>aware of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're supposed to take the green screen out

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<v Speaker 1>of the shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. What they're looking for is pacing. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>know you as like an audience members, keeping up with

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<v Speaker 2>the movie and how it's how it is going, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna well, you're gonna watch the movie just

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<v Speaker 1>as cleanly as possible, and then you're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>fill out comment cards. And they're pretty standard, but they

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<v Speaker 1>can tailor it for the movie. Like if, like let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you think there's a problem with one of the characters,

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<v Speaker 1>they might specifically say, like, what'd you think about the

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<v Speaker 1>Luke Wilson character?

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<v Speaker 2>Too much?

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<v Speaker 1>Too little?

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<v Speaker 2>He's no Owen Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>They might ask your favorite parts, your least favorite parts? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how did it flow? Did anything stand out to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Like could you follow it the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did it make sense? That's a good.

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<v Speaker 2>One, right, What did you think of the jokes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? What do you think of the jokes? They drill down,

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<v Speaker 1>They try and get as specific as they.

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<v Speaker 2>Can, and these are just the comment cards.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Supposedly, if you're in the demographic that they're shooting for

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<v Speaker 2>in release and you're at this thing, as you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to leave, they might come up to you and be like, hey, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just kind of the schlubby audience. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to be part of a real focus group, come with us,

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<v Speaker 2>And then you follow the stranger to a second location.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you follow them to a van with a

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<v Speaker 1>little round window in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's been covered over with a black plastic bag?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got dark it did. So the big thing

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<v Speaker 1>they're looking for, though, the money question is would you

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<v Speaker 1>recommend this movie to a friend. That's the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>they want to know, and that is where you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get your overall score that they really are going

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<v Speaker 1>to hone in.

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<v Speaker 2>On, right, And they want to know that so bad

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<v Speaker 2>that if they don't say I definitely would, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't even count that. Yeah you can say like yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe probably nope. So a movie. A movie gets a

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<v Speaker 2>score at the end, and it's based apparently exclusively on

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not you said you would definitely recommend the

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<v Speaker 2>movie to a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, out of one hundred people, they will score.

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<v Speaker 2>That so yeah, or out of however many people. But

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<v Speaker 2>for example, out of one hundred, yeah, if sixty people

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<v Speaker 2>say that, yeah, I guess I would recommend it to

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<v Speaker 2>a friend, and forty people say that they definitely would,

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<v Speaker 2>that movie got to score forty terrible, not even like

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<v Speaker 2>a like you can't even take into account that yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably you have to say you definitely would recommend it

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<v Speaker 2>to a friend to get a point for that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And they said in this article, I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>a huge caveats on a sliding scale, but uh, anything

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<v Speaker 1>over eighty they think they're in pretty decent shape. I

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<v Speaker 1>would guess eighty percent a low the average, they said.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot, a lot less than eighties lately, he asked me,

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<v Speaker 2>except of course for Mad Max x Makina. That was

0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.680
<v Speaker 2>a pretty great movie. So good, they ask in this article.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes you wonder, like when you when a train

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<v Speaker 1>wreck of a movie comes out, like what happened? Did

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<v Speaker 1>they focus scrop it, Did they test screen it? Did

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<v Speaker 1>they ignore it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what what? How does that thing get released? Is

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<v Speaker 1>the question?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you asking me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean no, I'm just throwing it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not the one who's been the one of these

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<v Speaker 2>tests creating. No, it does make you wonder though, like

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:37.920
<v Speaker 2>they probably didn't they didn't screen it, or the the

0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:43.879
<v Speaker 2>people who had edit rights didn't care to listen. But this,

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<v Speaker 2>this article keeps picking on glitter, which seems mean because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of stinkers out there. Apparently Human sevent

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<v Speaker 2>pede three has the I think it came out recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this the one in prison? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the first, like hundreds of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it has the lowest Metacritics score of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>Really you saw the first one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Have you seen it? No, dude, it's definitely worth seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Really Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think I get it just by seeing the trailer.

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<v Speaker 2>You would No, No, I mean there's no real surprises

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<v Speaker 2>beyond what you've seen in the trailer. But it's not

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<v Speaker 2>even appreciating it in an ironic way, even taking it

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<v Speaker 2>on its own terms. You're kind of like it's worth

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<v Speaker 2>seeing at least once like can't be disturbing or yeah, okay,

0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:38.960
<v Speaker 2>but not like not like hostile can't be disturbing. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you seen Hostile?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I didn't think that was very campy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just straight up disturbing. This one already disturbing. Yeah,

0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the guy was definitely going for an already bent despite

0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the premise of the movie. All right, but yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>some disturbing stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to see if that guy has anything left

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<v Speaker 1>in his bag of tricks. Because you can only go

0:21:58.480 --> 0:21:59.879
<v Speaker 1>mouth the butt for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's can't be disturbing? Give me an example of

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<v Speaker 2>that thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think like like a reanimator type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, okay, I see, yeah, hostels not can't be

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<v Speaker 2>dis reanimator definitely is.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we talk about Tom Cruise for a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>how obnoxious this move was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess he really believed in the way the

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<v Speaker 2>editing process was already going.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he crashed his own test screening of Mission Impossible

0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:36.520
<v Speaker 1>three allegedly and ran in there and lo.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, Hey, everybody, I'm Tom Cruise.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's high five each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy the movie, give me a couch to jump on.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean can you believe that that totally negates the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose of an audience screening because everyone there. I'm sure

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>there were a few people who are like, oh, I

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.560
<v Speaker 1>hatred got too weird though, but the rest of people

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:55.240
<v Speaker 1>are like, oh my god, Tom Cruise just came into

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the very test screening. Yeah, like, they probably din't feel

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<v Speaker 1>good about writing negative comments, right, you know.

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.880
<v Speaker 2>He white over here. He might want to hang out

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:04.480
<v Speaker 2>with me after this, and I want to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to tell him that I gave him high marks.

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.679
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe he did that. I can't believe he

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<v Speaker 1>did that.

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, I can too. So by the way, Also,

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a really interesting long form article in La Weekly

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:22.479
<v Speaker 2>from about a year ago called how YouTube and Internet

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:26.840
<v Speaker 2>journalism destroyed Tom Cruise our last real movie star. And

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:33.120
<v Speaker 2>it's it's not an apologist's view, but it definitely defends

0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 2>him against a lot of it's just read it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still a fan of his acting in most cases,

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Like that Edge of Tomorrow movie was terrific.

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't seen it yet and I've heard nothing

0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 2>but good things about it. Yeah, it was really good.

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 1>But no, I can still watch his movies and separate

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that from the wacko in real life.

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:56.160
<v Speaker 2>This is yes, this is defending his acting as well,

0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 2>but it's defending as that public perception of him as

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 2>being a whack go Yeah, and he basically like really

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 2>kind of pulls apart like all the layers and you're like,

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, Like it really goes to town stressing that

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 2>he never jumped up and down on the couch, right.

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.119
<v Speaker 1>He just jumped up on the couch.

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, But they go to great lengths to point out

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 2>that that is not the same thing as just off

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 2>handedly saying, oh, yeah, he jumped up and down on

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 2>that couch like he was crazy. Yeah. No, he jumped

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>up on the couch once and then stepped down or

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 2>something like that. So it's a really great article, really

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:32.120
<v Speaker 2>interesting because he's just been like kid for so long now. Yea,

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:35.360
<v Speaker 2>it's really it's almost surprising to see somebody step up,

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 2>not as like a crusader on behalf of Time cruise,

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 2>but just more to be like, everybody put your knives away.

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think the knives are out, not just because like, oh,

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>he's a scientologist and people think that's weird. It's like

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>when you dig down into scientology and find out the

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>things that he abides by like the slave labor to

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>decorate his cars and to wash his truck. And you

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>know that makes you kind of I'm not a good person,

0:25:00.880 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I see what you mean.

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Like that's beyond like, oh, that's just a strange religion.

0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 1>That's like people are being paid fifteen cents an hour

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to take care of me.

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh, if they're being paid, that's not slavery.

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 1>That's true. That's a good point.

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>What was the what's the name of the Was it

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 2>an HBO documentary?

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Going clear?

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Going clear?

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Based on the book Going Clear.

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I saw the guy who wrote the book come speak.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, that guy likes something that I don't remember

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 2>his name, but like, I mean, how whatever you think

0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:39.359
<v Speaker 2>of his book or his journalism, that guy had brass ones.

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, he's the one who did it. He's the

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>one who went after scientology when no one else would

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.679
<v Speaker 2>touch it. Oh yeah, he's the guy who did And

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>apparently five million lawyers read that book before it was

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<v Speaker 2>ever published.

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<v Speaker 1>I think HBO supposedly had like one hundred attorneys when

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>they went to adapt it as a documentary.

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is after it had already been vetted

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 2>by all of the lawyer in the book publishing world. Yeah,

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 2>it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the great book. All right, let's take another break here,

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and when we come back, we'll talk about some of

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>the more famous examples of movies that have been changed

0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>due to audience screenings.

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:30.480
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be so good, so chuck. There's there's some

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 2>legendary changes to movies that have been made over the years.

0:26:34.320 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Like we mentioned the Wizard of Oz. Good that was

0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 2>not a change actually, but like a test audience suggested

0:26:41.359 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 2>it be taken out somewhere over the rainbow apparently. Also

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>very famously, James Bond's movie Licensed to Kill Yeah, was

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 2>originally called License Revoked. Yeah, And even after all the

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>promotion material posters have been made, they changed the name

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 2>because American test audiences were like, I don't understand what

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 2>the title means, like his driver's license was revoked. Yeah,

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>and they were serious.

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was so weird. I mean it sounds like

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:12.199
<v Speaker 1>a like a Queen Latifa comedy license, you know, like

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>where she's a bus school sassy school bus forever.

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 2>And the like the K and the R backwards or

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>something like that. And the poster.

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, she's a sassy, pretty Woman. The movie, the

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Sacraine feel good movie from Richard Gere and Julia.

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Roberts apparently not started out as Sacra.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.679
<v Speaker 1>No, this is hysterical to me. It was originally titled

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>three thousand, based on the amount of money it costs

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to hire a hooker for a week. Sure that would

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:43.480
<v Speaker 1>like made no sense.

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, apparently they changed the name, not because of the test,

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.120
<v Speaker 2>is because the execs were like, sounds too science fiction

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:50.800
<v Speaker 2>y and they were right.

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>They were right, Pretty Woman, it's a much better title

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 1>for that for that movie.

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>And then apparently it was had a lot darker edge

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>when it was in script form, and it ended with

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Richard Gears's character kicking Julia Robert's character out of his

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>car and driving away. That's how it ended. Not very

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:10.520
<v Speaker 1>rom commy.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 2>No, no, well it wasn't.

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.439
<v Speaker 1>A rom com It was Gary Marshall. But see what

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I want to know is.

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Gary Marshall, he's a rom COMMI director.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's what I'm saying. He made that, like what

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<v Speaker 1>I want to It seems to me like all that

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>would have changed with Gary Marshall, not like in test screenings.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that's what happened. And then what the

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>test audience. The hand they played was that they're like,

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.120
<v Speaker 2>you need to change that ending. Okay, got they need

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:36.120
<v Speaker 2>to get together.

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, Fatal Attraction famously changed. Yeah.

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>So the ending of Fatal Attraction apparently has Glenn Cose

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Glenn Close, who's Michael Douglas's former one night stand turned stalker,

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 2>killing herself flitting her own throat. Yeah, pretty good with

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.239
<v Speaker 2>a knife with Michael Douglas's fingerprints on it. And then

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Michael Douglas is arrested for her murder.

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and like it's supposed to, they don't show trials

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>and things, but it ends with him going to prison.

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's a great ending. Glenn Close loved it.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>She was very sad when audiences were like, Nope, we

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>hate this character so much, like she has to be

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>killed off. She can't kill herself, somebody has to kill her. Yeah,

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>and just for good measure, make it the wife.

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Well that makes sense because I think people people weren't

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>rooting for Michael Douglas in that movie either because he

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>was such a jerk right toyed with this woman left her,

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.600
<v Speaker 1>had this great wife at home and kid. So people

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I think they said, you know what would go over

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the top is if the only sympathetic character in this movie,

0:29:42.160 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>which is Ann Archer, is the one who does it

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>right and that was effective, I'll give it to him.

0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but apparently Glenn closes like the original ending was

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 2>way better.

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>She washed her hands of it. Did you ever see

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Scott Pilgrim Versus the World? No, it's a good flick,

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the original, and that one had him had his character.

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Ending up with his.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Love interest knives Chow played by Ellen Wong instead of

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>his dream girl Ramona Flowers, and the test audiences didn't

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like that and said, basically, this guy spent the whole

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>movie annoyed by this girlfriend and pining for this other

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>girl and defeating her evil ex boyfriends. He can't just

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>not end up with her at the end. It's very

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>anti climactic. So they said, all right, we'll change it.

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's what it was in the graphic novel too,

0:30:39.000 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>so I know why they changed it to begin with.

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, So they went back to the original ending. Yeah,

0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that it was of the material is adaptive.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 1>From that's right.

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pretty in pink. Yeah, this one's pretty famous too.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I'd heard this many many years ago that originally they

0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 2>had Molly Ringwald ending up with John Cryer with Ducky

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 2>rather than Blaine Andrew McCarthy, which, by the way, I

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 2>saw Weekend at Bernie's again recently. It's a No, it's

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 2>not that bad. Really. Yeah, it's very thin. Well it's

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>one it's one joke. Yeah, but the.

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Boy they take it in so many directions.

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's pretty funny, and it's amazing how young Jonathan

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Silverman and Andrew McCarthy look, I mean young.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the guy who played Bernie, who, like I

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>don't think ever did anything else. No, I never saw

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>him to anything else.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>He threw out the ball at like a Los Angeles

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Dodgers game or San Francisco Giants.

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Gamers nineteen eighty seven.

0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, like last season. Really, I don't remember

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the reason why, but it was like he's been working

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 2>out that character for a long time.

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, it would have been genius if they would

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 1>have had Silverman and McCarthy out there like grabbing his

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>arm and throwing the ball for him as if he

0:31:57.680 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 1>were dead.

0:31:58.560 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 2>It would have been great.

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:01.719
<v Speaker 1>That would have been pretty good. I think they call

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>that meta these days, Yeah, they do, or metas already

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 1>out it's like, so two years ago, you know, uh,

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty eight days later you saw that one, right, Yep,

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that one ends with Jim's Cilia Murphy's character dying in

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>the original ending, and his people were going to rescue him,

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 1>just like going back out to fight the zombies again.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 1>They are like, no, that stinks.

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I love this guy. Yeah, so they he recovers. Yeah,

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't end in like a field or a meadow.

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Or they're in the field and I think they see

0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>a plane.

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. Danny bow is like, oh, you want a

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 2>happy ending, Yeah, give you you're happy, stupid ending. Here's

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 2>your stupid ending. Chi kuna, you stupid audience.

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I like the ending, though I don't.

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I like both.

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind a happy ending when it's done well.

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>But I also like dark endings. Yeah, you know one

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:56.840
<v Speaker 1>of the It doesn't have to be one or the other.

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>What about the opposite dark beginnings in un dark beginnings

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 2>like with Sunset Boulevard.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>All right, go ahead and break it down. I don't

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>know that one.

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh have you ever seen Sunset Boulevard. No, that's on

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 2>my list as a classic movie for a reason. It's

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 2>a truly great movie. But apparently at the beginning of it.

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Originally they had Bill Holden's Corpse, the character he plays

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 2>corpse talking to other corpses in the morgue, explaining how

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<v Speaker 2>he got there. Oh wow, and audiences were like, is

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<v Speaker 2>this a comedy? Like what is going on here? Apparently

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people walked out and Billy Wilder, the

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<v Speaker 2>director was there, yea, and some lady told him to

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<v Speaker 2>his face that it was a steaming pile and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know it was him or something like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>the the legend goes that she told them to his

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<v Speaker 2>face like this is terrible and so steaming pile. He

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<v Speaker 2>reshot the beginning to where it's Bill Holden's corpse, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a voiceover and he's not talking to other corpses

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<v Speaker 2>in the morgue.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not a comedy, right, it's not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because it was Billy Wilder, people had an expectation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean there's some parts that you wonder like,

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<v Speaker 2>did he mean that to be like kind of funny,

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<v Speaker 2>like in a really dark way.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's quite possible. But great, I need to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Billy Wilder.

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<v Speaker 2>You should watch it like tonight, doesn't matter the mood

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<v Speaker 2>you're in. It doesn't matter what you got going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you could watch Sunset Boulevard and be like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a great movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Heathers, did you see Heathers? The regular ending? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry the yeah. The ending they went with was

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Slater's character wants to blow up the school gymnasium

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<v Speaker 1>during a basketball game, and Veronica what's her faces? One

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<v Speaker 1>on a Writer's character shoots him dead, stops it and

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<v Speaker 1>ends up bonding with the outcast girl. Yes, and the

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<v Speaker 1>original ending and the script I don't think this was

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<v Speaker 1>an I don't think it was shot. But she kills

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Slater's character, straps the bomb to herself and blows

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<v Speaker 1>up the school, and everyone has prom in heaven and

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody gets along. The nerds and the geeks are

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<v Speaker 1>all like living in harmony. Huh yeah, not bad. You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see that. Blade Runner perhaps the most famous

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<v Speaker 1>changed ending of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>I had not heard that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know, the original ending of Blade Runner was

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<v Speaker 1>very dark, and that's the one that ended up in

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<v Speaker 1>the director's cut, Ridley Scott's Director's cut.

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<v Speaker 2>What was that in me?

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<v Speaker 1>Basically that Harrison Ford is going to die, well that

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel Ward is going to die because replicants have expiration dates,

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<v Speaker 1>and is Harrison Ford a replicant or not? And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure the director's cut leaves it ambiguous, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I think Ridley Scott came out years later and said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a replicant.

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<v Speaker 2>So in the in the audience tested version, he turns

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<v Speaker 2>to the camera and says directly the audience, Nope, not

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<v Speaker 2>a replicant.

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<v Speaker 1>Not quite end, but they all that terrible voiceover narration

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<v Speaker 1>was added, you know, in the non director's cut, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had the happy ending with infamous blue Sky shot

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<v Speaker 1>the Only Blue Sky, and the whole movie was then

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<v Speaker 1>like driving down the road at the end and explaining

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<v Speaker 1>the voiceover that, well, not all replicants have an expiration date.

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<v Speaker 1>You're special, so you don't have one, so we can

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<v Speaker 1>just live together in harmony. And that.

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<v Speaker 2>Grave probably so.

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<v Speaker 1>But that shot of the Only Blue Sky, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even from that movie. It was pulled from outtakes of

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<v Speaker 1>the shining, the beginning car scene and the shining when

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<v Speaker 1>they're driving up the road. So yeah, Blade Runner really

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<v Speaker 1>screwed that one up, and really Scott, of course was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was not so happy about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine this masterpiece. And then somebody tax on

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<v Speaker 2>outtakes from the movie. Yeah, weird bad. You got anything else? Nope, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't either. We could probably do this for a

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<v Speaker 2>while though, because there's plenty of other movies that were

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<v Speaker 2>changed thanks to audiences. But if you are ever in

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<v Speaker 2>a line at a movie theater and somebody trustworthy seeming

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<v Speaker 2>comes up to you and I A see you, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be in a test audience, give it

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<v Speaker 2>a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and big thanks to Mental Floss for all. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that list stuff came from one of their articles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's all I got.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to know more about audience testing,

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<v Speaker 2>type those words in the search bart howstuff works dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And since I said that, it's time for listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this oceans are cool if I pay attention. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>love the show. I used to listen every day when

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<v Speaker 1>I rode the trains from Brooklyn and to Manhattan to work,

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<v Speaker 1>But recently I started to work in Brooklyn close enough

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<v Speaker 1>for me to buy too, so I don't write trains anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pros and cons for that. On one hand, I

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<v Speaker 1>save over one hundred and ten dollars a month in

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<v Speaker 1>MetroCard fees, don't have to wait for trains, which adds

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<v Speaker 1>another twenty minutes to the Google Map travel times. On

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<v Speaker 1>con is that I don't have time to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>you guys as much. Since it's very detailed. I'm paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention is key if I want to enjoy the show

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<v Speaker 1>and I need to keep my thoughts on the road.

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<v Speaker 1>My commute is also down to fifteen minutes, which doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>help much either. I need to reconcile this fellas. This morning,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to listen to The Ocean's episode while doing

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<v Speaker 1>some work on my computer. Was it long before I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I'd missed something critical. At some point, riptides were

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<v Speaker 1>defined and laddered up to equatorial wins, a connection I

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<v Speaker 1>recall from taking oceanography in high school. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>not understand when I wasn't paying attention this morning. When

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<v Speaker 1>I used to listen on the train, the show had

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<v Speaker 1>my undivided attention. Now I'm trying to find a new

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<v Speaker 1>time to listen. Maybe I'll save up shows and binge

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<v Speaker 1>them on a nice long bike ride. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>from Andrew negrosche nigrsh di gros Negros something like that. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard that name.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks a lot, Andrew. We appreciate you getting in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with this. We hope you figure this out. This

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like a terrible conundrum. Maybe just get a new.

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<v Speaker 1>Job that requires Yeah, yeah, go work in Vermont.

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