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Speaker 1: What's happening everybody? Welcome you to Wednesday, Nation of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access, a pre TAXAC Texas Bowl Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: Mark and I I'm your host, John Harris, Football and

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Speaker 1: a silent reporter. Last night at the Chairman's Reception, we

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Speaker 1: had a great time talk Lane Kiffin, Hey coat, you

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Speaker 1: old miss, Joey McGuire, head coach Texas Tech Tuctor, Raymond Claiborne,

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Speaker 1: who was a tremendous player Uiversity Texas Texas Bull grarn Legend.

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Speaker 1: We talked Robert Brazil, We talked to Warren Moon, We

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Speaker 1: talked Dante Pastorini, Dan Pastorini. I mean, we had a

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Speaker 1: blast last night and we're gonna keep it going tonight

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Speaker 1: before Brett Dolan and I broadcast the tax Act Texas

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Speaker 1: Bowl Texas Technicol Miss, So you're gonna be hearing me

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Speaker 1: a lot over the next I don't know, five six hours,

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Speaker 1: and I hope my pipes hold up by the fourth quarter. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a blast though. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: for you, and we're gonna kick it off this evening

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Speaker 1: with general manager of your Houston Texans, Nick as Sario.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, Johning us now on the Hunday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: It's general manager Nick as Serio. Nick, good to see

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Speaker 1: you all right. Coming off a win over the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: Titans on the road prior to Christmas cold weather. Team

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Speaker 1: really responded well to the conditions all of the above

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Speaker 1: as they got the victory. Yeah, overall, did enough things,

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Speaker 1: you know to win a game. So a good collective

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Speaker 1: team affort, made some plays all three phases of the

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Speaker 1: game at different points. So in a game, a couple

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Speaker 1: of things we can clean up, you know, probably shouldn't

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Speaker 1: come down to jump all but anyways, we're able to

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Speaker 1: execute that situation. But overall, there's enough good things in

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Speaker 1: all three phases. So um, you know, it's good to

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Speaker 1: get a win, and you know, turn a page and

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Speaker 1: get ready for a good Jacksonall team here this week, Nick,

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Speaker 1: we'll talking about the Jagson a little bit, but I

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Speaker 1: want to talk kind of about the procedure of how

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Speaker 1: the one hour delay went down. Was that a decision

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Speaker 1: between the two teams, the NFL making a decision, How

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Speaker 1: did that go down? And how do you then disseminate

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Speaker 1: that Because I you and I had talked, I think

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Speaker 1: at what ten and then shortly after we find out

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Speaker 1: there's a lay. How did that go down? Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: interesting about when we arrived at the stadium, there was

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Speaker 1: some hankling that there was a possibility that could happen.

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Speaker 1: There was some discussions. I think the mayor had made

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Speaker 1: some comment unbeknownst to me that about the game and

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Speaker 1: how they we're going to handle that. So we had

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Speaker 1: a lot of dialogue with the league, goops back and forth,

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Speaker 1: and they said there was something that they're having some discussions.

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Speaker 1: We'll keep you informed. So what we try to do

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Speaker 1: is just keep all the players in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: This way, they didn't go out warm up, come back in,

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Speaker 1: have to get restarted. So we had known ahead of

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Speaker 1: time going into the game that the tarp was going

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Speaker 1: to be on the field, probably up until call it

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Speaker 1: ninety minutes or so, or you know, two hours before,

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Speaker 1: So we informed the players ahead of time, so they

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Speaker 1: were aware. So we kept a traffic to a minimum

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Speaker 1: going onto the field. And then as we got a

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Speaker 1: little bit closer to the sort of the ninety minute mark,

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Speaker 1: they have one hundred minute meeting, you know, where they

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Speaker 1: go through some things from as a official standpoint, and

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Speaker 1: right around that time, we were informed at the game

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Speaker 1: as opposed to twelve o'clock. So the players just sort

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Speaker 1: most part, the players did a great job. We were

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Speaker 1: able to keep everybody in the locker rooms. They didn't

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Speaker 1: to doze off during this time. Nick, he told us this,

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Speaker 1: whatever works for them, that's the best course of action.

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Speaker 1: He and I were running away from the tarp. We're

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Speaker 1: particular moment. Speaking of running, Nick, it was well documented

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Speaker 1: But from that point on he only had about seventy

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Speaker 1: What was key in stopping him the way that the

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Speaker 1: so it's not one particular guy. One of the things

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Speaker 1: be a TV show called The Rookies, and I feel

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Speaker 1: Now it's a matter of week to week. What do

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Speaker 1: One thing that I know I love and I know

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Speaker 1: Nick the off season prescription for these players. And you

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Speaker 1: back in April. Yeah, I think at the end of

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Speaker 1: And you have to be careful about how much dialogue

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Speaker 1: So there'll probably be some players that are in the

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Speaker 1: not going to be about football. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: about strength training. But each player is going to have things. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's what happened. Here's some strengths, here's some weaknesses. And

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Speaker 1: when it's twelve fifteen plays a game. So when we

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Speaker 1: look at Taysom, how he's been used. I mean, Taysum

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Speaker 1: has played anywhere from quarterback to running even with Drew Breese.

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Speaker 1: So just try to figure out how to deploy whatever

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Speaker 1: resources you have and use them accordingly. So you know,

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Speaker 1: to this point, you know, we've gotten decent production out

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Speaker 1: of it. There's probably some things that we can maybe

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Speaker 1: modify or do a little bit better to kind of

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Speaker 1: get a little bit more out of it. But overall.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's given us a few plays, which ultimately

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Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. The ultimate will slash Cordell

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Speaker 1: Stewart Ye back in the day, Wednesday Night Tax Act

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Speaker 1: Texas Ball. This question is so much about the Texas Bowl, Nick,

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Speaker 1: It's just about bowl games in general. They seemingly changed.

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Speaker 1: Mark and I were talking about this before you walked in,

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Speaker 1: because you're seeing transfer portals, opt outs, etc. Have bowl games?

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Speaker 1: Are bowl games just another link in the chain, so

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Speaker 1: to speak? Are there any more important because some guys

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Speaker 1: haven't opt outed, they're playing. How do you kind of

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Speaker 1: look at bowl games now versus maybe ten twelve years ago, Nick, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say there are any more important. It's just

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Speaker 1: another game and other opportunity for players to go out

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Speaker 1: there and perform. Maybe there's a player that's missed a

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Speaker 1: year for myriad reasons, injuries or whatever it is, has

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to play in that last game. So for

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Speaker 1: the college programs, it's an opportunity get little more practice,

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Speaker 1: kind of get ahead in the spring here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: There're gonna be some players are going to choose to play,

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Speaker 1: some players that have the option to play, some players

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Speaker 1: that opt out other players for whatever the reasons. So

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Speaker 1: it's a case by case basis. So I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: the Bowl games take on any more significance. I mean

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Speaker 1: there's a significant number of them as we know. It's

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Speaker 1: another opportunity to watch teams play against good competition. Even

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Speaker 1: with this semifinals. You know they're good football teams. They

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Speaker 1: are playing against one another, but it's not as if

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Speaker 1: they're part of the evaluation. You're all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: going to say, well, this guy played really well in

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Speaker 1: the bowl game. Let's askew everything that you know, we

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Speaker 1: talked about or saw previously. It's just another opportunity to

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Speaker 1: watch them play against a different competition. Will you come

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Speaker 1: down from your office and check it out in my

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Speaker 1: tunnel or whatever. I might wander down there for a

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Speaker 1: few minutes and make a way. I've actually seen Old

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Speaker 1: Miss play here a little bit. I haven't seen Texas

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Speaker 1: Tech play, so it might be an opportunity go out

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Speaker 1: there and just kind of, you know, look at some

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Speaker 1: different guys. So we'll see how that goes. All right,

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Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, Nick, so set the stage for me

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Speaker 1: party into the wee hours midnight toast all of it,

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Speaker 1: the hats, everything. What are you gonna do? Where I

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Speaker 1: put my chips on his bed? It's funny. I was

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Speaker 1: actually joking. I must have eight to ten between wine, bourbon,

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Speaker 1: whiskey Christmas presents sitting in my office. I have no

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Speaker 1: idea what I'm gonna do with them. I probably won't

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Speaker 1: consume them all New Year's Eve, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: i've seen the ball drop, and I don't know twenty

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Speaker 1: five thirty years, so probably treat it like a normal

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Speaker 1: Saturday night wake up and we'll be in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I know that's really exciting. That's what everybody wanted to hear,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, Mark, I expected to Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So it's New Year's Do you come up with New

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Speaker 1: Year's resolutions? I know the answer to this, but I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna let you answer anyways. Resolutions every day resolutions for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, like January from Okay, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: this and try to have a better year this year

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Speaker 1: than maybe, so I think that's the biggest Thanks Linn,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. Good luck, Thanks guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean I knew the answer the question. I knew it,

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Speaker 1: but I was gonna ask you anyways, because you know

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Speaker 1: Nick's gonna handle it in the best way possible and

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Speaker 1: love him for it. All right. The Raiders, yes an

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Speaker 1: opponent on the Texas schedule, have made a decision with

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. What kind of Domino impact could that have

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Speaker 1: on every team in the league. We'll talk about that

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Speaker 1: next right here on Texas All Access. Welcome back this

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Speaker 1: Wednesday ed isiation of Texans All Access. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, Football at Sideline Reporter and coming up in

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Speaker 1: Oh I don't know about an hour and a half,

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Speaker 1: a little over down and a half. You're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the Taxac Texas ball right here, Ole miss against Texas Tech.

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Speaker 1: Brett Dolan doing play by play and some guy doing color.

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Speaker 1: I think I know him. That would be It could

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Speaker 1: be me, It could be me. You'll hear me for

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Speaker 1: the next next few hours talking NFL football, college football,

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Speaker 1: talking about it all and looking forward to that. Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandemir joins me after we had our discussion with Nick

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Speaker 1: Kissario and related to Kissario on a Cassario's longtime friends

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels made a very interesting decision today because the

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders have benched Derek Carr. Yeah, gut reaction

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Speaker 1: to that surprised. Cars a franchise player. They've invested a

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Speaker 1: lot in him as an organization, and he's been around

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Speaker 1: for a while. A lot of people forget it still

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Speaker 1: feels new with Derek sometimes maybe because the Raiders have

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Speaker 1: reset a couple of times. But it was twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Johnny We faced him in his second game. We two

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen Bill O'Brien's Texans go out there. That was

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Speaker 1: the game where Watt catches his first TV passed from

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. It was Derek Carr on the other side.

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Speaker 1: I remember late in that season they beat somebody to

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Speaker 1: get maybe their first or second win. It was a

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Speaker 1: huge deal on a Thursday night game, and I just

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Speaker 1: felt so happy for Derek getting that victory. I don't

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Speaker 1: need to tell Derek Carr story right now, but my

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Speaker 1: gut reaction is, Wow, you're gonna start Jared Stidham, and

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Speaker 1: obviously McDaniels is great familiarity with him from their days

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Speaker 1: in New England together. I don't know how this is

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Speaker 1: gonna go. It must be pretty bad. They must feel

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Speaker 1: like Cars missing an awful lot, and I've seen it.

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Speaker 1: We've all seen the tweets with the all twenty two

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Speaker 1: footage and Derek missing deep throws or misconnecting with receivers

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Speaker 1: and who knows whose fault it is, but apparently they

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Speaker 1: feel like a lot of it is Derek's and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna go for something different now that the season has

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Speaker 1: slipped away from them. Yeah, it's unfortunate. How about that

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Speaker 1: first win in twenty fourteen actually happened in late November,

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Speaker 1: late ish November. They beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first win back in twenty fourteen, they beat him

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Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty in Oakland, right in Oakland, and

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Speaker 1: then they end up winning two more over the rest

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Speaker 1: of the years. So they finished three and three and

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen and started kind of getting into going in

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Speaker 1: the right direction. What do you think the problem is?

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Speaker 1: Though you've seen him plenty of times, We saw him

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Speaker 1: and we talk about this in Mexico City that night,

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Speaker 1: I felt like, this guy's gonna win Super Bowls. That

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Speaker 1: was season three. That was a primetime game and a

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Speaker 1: strange land, you know, strange for NFL. You're both on

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Speaker 1: the road basically, although they had more fans there than

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Speaker 1: the Texans because they have history there, and you know

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Speaker 1: two Hall of Famer type players or organization members who

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Speaker 1: are Mexican Americans and Tom Flores and Jim Jim Plunkett.

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Speaker 1: Plunket is not in the Hall of Fame, no button,

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Speaker 1: he had you know, hall of Fame moments winning two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. Oh my gosh. Anyway, but that night I

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Speaker 1: felt like Cars the man. He was such a leader.

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Speaker 1: He made huge plays, huge throws, and the Texans were

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Speaker 1: actually playing well that night, but he took it to him.

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Speaker 1: I think there's something to be said for continuity if

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Speaker 1: you look at Derek Carr when he had that year

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and I can't remember off the top

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Speaker 1: of my head who his offensive coordinator was, but he

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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator that he loved. Yeah, and they clicked.

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Speaker 1: And then the next year Jack del Rio fired that

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and for whatever reason he fired it offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: brought in a new guy, didn't click. Gruden comes in,

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Speaker 1: and you always felt like Gruden was looking for a

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Speaker 1: reason in some sense to move Derek Carr aside. But

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Speaker 1: year after year after year with Gruden, he got better,

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Speaker 1: or so it seemed he was getting better. He was

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Speaker 1: understanding the offense. He was doing more things. Bill musk Grave.

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Speaker 1: Bill Musgrave, who's son, by the way, Luke Musgrave is

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Speaker 1: a stud tight End Oregon State stud. And guess who

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Speaker 1: takes over the next year in that spot. A guy

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Speaker 1: who's under fire right now in Nashville was a Todd Downing.

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Speaker 1: Todd Downing. Oh, yes, okay, So my point in all

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Speaker 1: that is there's a level of continuity that just hasn't

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Speaker 1: been there for Derek. He hasn't had where you think

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Speaker 1: about Brady. Brady was in New England for twenty years, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so it's Charlie Weis's first stretch, but Josh McDaniels is

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Speaker 1: always on the staff. Then Josh McDaniels takes over. Then

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Speaker 1: when McDaniels moves on, ob steps in for a few years,

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Speaker 1: they go back to McDaniels. McDaniels then has the next

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Speaker 1: how many ever years, almost the remains almost the remainder,

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Speaker 1: the remainder of his years in new system remains, and

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Speaker 1: the system remained the same the entire time for Brady. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I always thinking about Alex Smith and moments like this,

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Speaker 1: because Alex Smith was the number one pick in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and five, two thousand and five, and over the

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Speaker 1: next five years or four or five years, he had

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Speaker 1: five different offensive coordinators. Well, how in changing the offense

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Speaker 1: at the same time, right, So how do you find

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Speaker 1: any continuity with that when you were when you're having

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Speaker 1: that happen. And one of those years he ended up

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Speaker 1: being heard and he towards a cl and so he

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Speaker 1: finally got Jim Harball in there, and he had some

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Speaker 1: consistency with Hardball, and he was he was pretty good.

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Speaker 1: There was a coach that believed in him, he believed

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Speaker 1: in himself. He got his confidence back, and away you go.

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Speaker 1: I think Derek does a lot on confidence too. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if Derek's twenty sixteen, his confidence was through the roof

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Speaker 1: and then he gets hurt in that game against the Colts.

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Speaker 1: But that night I was with you. I'm like this guy, Wow,

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Speaker 1: this is tough because we had a lead net game

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Speaker 1: for a long time and then fourth quarter, bang bang bang,

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Speaker 1: we're done. Three shots and it's it's done. It's three

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Speaker 1: it's one to the full back down to scene, which

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Speaker 1: was beautiful Washington. No it was Olama, I can't remember. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: Then he hit him Mary Cooper on his sideline who

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00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: made people miss you got in the end zone and

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Speaker 1: he had one other and that kind of put us

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Speaker 1: to sleep. But he just hasn't had continuity. The offense

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Speaker 1: has changed every two or three years for him. And

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Speaker 1: now you've got an offense that Josh McDaniels brings from

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Speaker 1: New England that we know is incredibly complex, incredibly complex.

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Speaker 1: And when you're in the league as long as Derek has,

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Speaker 1: and you've seen a lot defensively or offensively, but you've

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Speaker 1: seen different defensive schemes and you're now trying to understand

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Speaker 1: this offense and you're trying to all that knowledge you

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Speaker 1: kind of put it together and sometimes you get you

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Speaker 1: get locked John the brain so to speak, you get

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Speaker 1: brain lock and that. Yeah, and so I think from

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Speaker 1: that perspective he's struggle a bit just trying to master

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Speaker 1: all of that. Josh McDaniels said, Starting jared'stid him is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to evaluate a younger player. Well, my question

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Speaker 1: would be for what for what for the future of

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Well, if that's the case and Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: is a is a quarterback to be acquired, there's my

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Speaker 1: question to you. Mark Vannimer. How attractive is he to

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Speaker 1: teams that need quarterbacks around the league. He's highly attractive, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: There aren't going to be too many guys with his

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Speaker 1: kind of prowess out there on the open market for

640
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: free agency. And they have it out in twenty twenty three.

641
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: It's gonna cost them some money, but they can get

642
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: out of the deal. And car is extremely attractive. But

643
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: any quarterback, any team you need. We talked about this

644
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 1: with Warren moonlab night, we talked about it with Andrea

645
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: on Monday. Fit that word, it's gotta be the right fit.

646
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: He's got to be the right guy for whatever system

647
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: you have. You have to figure that stuff out. And

648
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: I know most coaches have faith in whatever they're doing. Obviously,

649
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, even Nathaniel Hackett had faith in what they

650
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: were doing in Denver, but that didn't work out. Faith

651
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: is only part of it. I'm just thinking that when

652
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: I look at Baker Mayfield with Sean McVay, and maybe

653
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: that's just an incredible combination of a guy who was

654
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: number one picking the draft and an amazing coach offensively,

655
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: and they come together and they're able to make some

656
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: beautiful music together. Two out of three games anyway. I

657
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: don't know if that's gonna happen with Derek Carr somewhere,

658
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: but he'll be attractive, and the contract that it will

659
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: take to get him will not be as much as

660
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: some other guys. You know, he's gonna make money, but

661
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a franchise busting sum, and

662
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to go to the right place for him.

663
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting with car on the

664
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: open market. And that's the assumption right now. If he's

665
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: been benched, are you kidding? It's over? So in the

666
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: last one two, five weeks, he's thrown four or five, six,

667
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: nine interceptions and that's been the key. He threw three

668
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: in the opener against the Chargers, which, look, it's the

669
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: first game in the new system, you're playing the Chargers there,

670
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: They've got everybody rolling at that particular point. Okay, But

671
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: then he was pretty consistent. I mean, he threw two

672
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: interceptions the next like eight weeks, and then all of

673
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: a sudden something broke down against the Seahawks, he threw two.

674
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: Next week against the Chargers, he threw one. It's the

675
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: Rams on that Thursday night game, he threw two. The

676
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: Patriots he threw one, and then against the Steelers the

677
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: other night he threw three. He just is he's trending

678
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: in a wrong direct. So I understand what the Raiders

679
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: are doing taking a look at Jared Stidham, because the

680
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: Raiders got to know, Look, do we need to look

681
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: at this draft class and wonder whether it's done for

682
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Derek here in Las Vegas, and we've got to look

683
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: for the next the next guy to follow him. We

684
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: don't think it's Jared Stidham, but yeah, look, you get

685
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: a couple of games to evaluate, and if anybody's gonna

686
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: know it's Josh McDaniels who drafted him in New England.

687
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: You get a couple of games to evaluate, and good

688
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: luck with that because you're facing the forty nine Ers

689
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: this week and you close out against the Kansas City

690
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs at home, and Kansas City is probably gonna need

691
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: that game. They're gonna wonder if they can still grab

692
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: the top seed with that game with a victory against

693
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders. They'll need help to do it, but it's

694
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: certainly possible. How about that, Johnny, You're facing two really

695
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: tough teams with Jared Stidham. Now you're out of it

696
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: right now at six and nine, right, so, and you

697
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: watch the Chargers. This is the team that you edged

698
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: out for the postseason bid last year and where you

699
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: could have tied and both went, but they won the game,

700
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: the Raiders did and the Chargers stayed home the Raiders

701
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: went and now there you are with a new head coach.

702
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, McDaniels has to do what he thinks is

703
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: right to get the team ready for next year because

704
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere after one year. So we'll see

705
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: how that goes. But man, the Raiders organization, they fired

706
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: del Rio after I think it was six and ten,

707
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and then they go to Gruden and it's not any

708
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: better for three years, right And I know Gruden other

709
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: scumstances led to his departure, and maybe it was starting

710
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: to come around, but we still don't know how last

711
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: year would have finished up if Gruden had stayed. You know,

712
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: they really had something, They had something special going chemistry wise.

713
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Now no guarantee that that was going to work out

714
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: in the future. They went with Josh McDaniels. But I

715
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: find it really interesting, man. You know, Mark Davis has

716
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: to be scratched his head over some of the moves

717
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: he's made and them not working like a lot of franchises.

718
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: I mean, look, everybody's trying their best here, but it

719
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: doesn't work out for but a few. I think the

720
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: Gruden not experiment. But going back to Gruden, Gruden to Doto, Yeah,

721
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, I thought it was gonna I thought

722
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: it was gonna be better. I felt like Gruden Car,

723
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna work out after you know,

724
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: the first year is like, eh, I don't know. Second year,

725
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, it's starting to come together. And I

726
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: felt like the third year, okay, it's happening. And of

727
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: course then the emails get released and you know it.

728
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: You know, Gruden is shown the door at that point,

729
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: and I feel bad for Derek because he finishes that season.

730
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 1: But then McDaniels comes in, it's a whole new offense

731
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: and away you go. Robert May's tweeted this this afternoon.

732
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: He said, feels like we're getting closer and closer to

733
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: the Raiders outright releasing Derek Carr right after this season,

734
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: and whatever you think of Derek Carr, quarterbacks as good

735
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: as Derek Carr, very rarely just become available for no

736
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: draft capital before they're late thirties, which is absolutely dead

737
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: on you. You never you never see it, You absolutely

738
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: never see it. But again, you go back, you go

739
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: back to fit. I'm gonna fit. I have a place,

740
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know how the coaching staff is gonna

741
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: change after the Colts fired Frank Reich and that's Indianapolis.

742
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: Oh no, they can't do it, Johnny. It's gonna be

743
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: another Matt Ryan kind of thing to the fan base.

744
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it works out that way. I'll give you a spot.

745
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: How about this? What if? All right, I'm worried about

746
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: I'm worried about TWA because the concussion, the multiple concussions.

747
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: This is a problem, and they got to figure it

748
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: out because you get one more and I think that's it.

749
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: You know, you CJ. Fedorowitz. At that point you just

750
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: have to hang it up and say I can't do

751
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: this anymore, which is so sad from a football standpoint,

752
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: a life standpoint. Look, he'll be set for life financially,

753
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, we're talking about this

754
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: kind of thing here. Playing the game you love and

755
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: being an awesome pro and all of that. Boy, cars

756
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: numbers sixty percent, sixty one percent completions, that's his. Let

757
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: me see, let me see, let me see, let me alight,

758
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: let me pull it up. Maybe I'm wrong here, maybe

759
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. All right, So in twenty twenty two, yeah,

760
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: sixty one percent, twenty four touchdowns, fourteen picks. That's a

761
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: lot of picks. Last year he had fourteen picks. That's

762
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: a lot of picks, all right, double digit picks for

763
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: a franchise supreme player. Not good. But they made the postseason.

764
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Last year. He only threw twenty three touchdown passes. He

765
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: actually is more this year. You know, I'm gonna go

766
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: back to Del Rio for a moment. They win a

767
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: bunch of games, they have double digit wins, then they

768
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: go six and ten, they get Gruden in, and then

769
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: Gruden doesn't have a winning season for one, two, three,

770
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: four years. Wow. Wow, you know that's not really acceptable.

771
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: It is not acceptable. So the Dolphins make a lot

772
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins make sense. I feel like McDaniel would

773
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: be a good. Now, keep in mind, it's Josh McDaniels

774
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, right, it is Mike McDaniel in Miami.

775
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: Thank you, So just make a clear. That would be

776
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: a pretty interesting spot. And I'll give you another if again.

777
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: If two is the concussions become an issue or continue

778
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: to become an issue. Cars on the bench for the

779
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: next two games. Baker Mayfield's playing, and he continues to

780
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: light it up with McVeigh and he's a free agent.

781
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: Which guy is going to be more attractive on the

782
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: open market? Mayfield coming off the McVeigh cleansing or Car

783
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: coming off the benching in Vegas. I think you got

784
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: these new you got these new mics in studio, and

785
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: so we've got to sit next to the mic. We can't,

786
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, we used to have the headsets. I kind

787
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: of sit back. I'm sitting back and I'm thinking, I'm like,

788
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what I would do.

789
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I Baker sounds really attractive, but we know Baker's got

790
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: the wartz Baker has Man Car doesn't really have warts.

791
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't really have warts. I just think that the

792
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,240
Speaker 1: confidence has been I think his confidence has been shot. Honestly.

793
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: I think he just needs a new He needs a

794
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: new location, just a new location, get away from the

795
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 1: Raiders organization. Just get out of there, get to something

796
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: a problem is if a team is looking for a quarterback,

797
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: it's not a stable organization. You a hot take. You're ready, Okay,

798
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: you're ready for total heat. Okay, size fire, shore, we

799
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: go bring it. Forty nine ers. Oh oh, it's so

800
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: funny you said that, because as we were starting, and

801
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: as I asked you what teams made sense, that's the

802
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: team that came to mind. I think a lot of

803
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks makes sense. In San Francisco, you could airlift. I

804
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: was on a shout. The team that came to mind

805
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: was a forty nine ers from me. I was on

806
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: a show. We were talking about quarterbacks and I said, look,

807
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: Brock Purty might be a really nice quarterback, and he

808
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: probably is. That's great, And we were talking about our situation.

809
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: But the forty nine ers are low dead right. We

810
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: all agree with that. And they were asking me about Mills,

811
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: and I said, if you airlifted Mills and drop them

812
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: into the forty nine or huddle. Look, I'm not saying

813
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: he's going to win a Super Bowl, but I think

814
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: Mills would look a lot better, you know, with that

815
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: kind of talent, that kind of organization around him. From

816
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: where they are now. I want this organization to get

817
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: to where they are and I'm hoping they do, and

818
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: I have confidence and all of that, but that's beside

819
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: the point of the current situation, which is, you know,

820
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: you're on a two win team right now. And that's

821
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: another thing. We've got a narrative, potential narrative changing two

822
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: games in front of us here. If this is true,

823
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: if mills Can didn't used to play as well as

824
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: he did on that last drive. Look, I know it's

825
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: one drive, but that was a heck of a drive

826
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: that was. So let's see if that kind of thing

827
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: can continue. What if he comes out of the gate

828
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: and does bang bang bang against the Jaguars and all

829
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden, hey wait a minute, and you're able

830
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: to beat the Jags. Let me give you a spot.

831
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: All four of these teams have been pretty darn good.

832
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: What about the New York Football Giants for Car for Car, Yeah, no,

833
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. I mean, you know,

834
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, they didn't take they didn't they didn't extend

835
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: him on a fifth year option. Derek Carr, I mean

836
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: you have to get him a weapon though. I mean

837
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: you've got to add to the weapons the weapon reu

838
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: They tracted to kid Areas Tony that traded him to

839
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: the Kansi Chiefs. You've got you would have to add

840
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: a piece. I'm not saying you gotta get Dvante Adams,

841
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: but you'd have to add another piece. But the offensive

842
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: line got better with Evan Neal on one side, and

843
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: Andrew to Andrew Thomas has evolved, has evolved into one

844
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: of the best tackles in the league. Interior they have

845
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: to fix a little bit. But yes, well we don't

846
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do. Squan, you don't know about that.

847
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: But in that vision you've got to have you got

848
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: to have a gunslinger in some sense, he might be

849
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Speaker 1: the guy. Also, what about Washington? Who knows what happens

850
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: with Winston Heineke? I mean, and now they've got weapons.

851
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: They do have weapons, And despite what we said about Indie,

852
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: that does remain an option. Yes, right, and who knows?

853
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: Maybe here who knows, Johnny, There's a lot to be

854
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: considered here. You know, It's funny because it's like relationship

855
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: status on Facebook, right, sometimes you have that option of

856
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: it's complicated. If you look at quarterback status on various teams,

857
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: it's hard to explain in one word or two or

858
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: one sentence. Even you could just put it's complicated. The

859
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: New York Jets, it's complicated, right, Washington, it's complicated. There

860
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: are a lot of it's complicateds out there with the

861
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: quarterback status many teams. Let me give me another one.

862
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: They've got an unbelievable young tight end. They drafted a

863
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: six four, two hundred fifteen pound wide receiver who's super stud.

864
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: The running game is actually better than you think. And

865
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith can coach offensive football. What about the Atlanta Falcons,

866
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: it's complicated. We just drafted Desmond Ritter Mariota. I'm sure

867
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: you can get out of that deal. Yeah, you know,

868
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Mariota is not. The issue is how

869
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: do they believe in Desmond Ritter? How do they feel

870
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: about Ritter? Or do they go get Derek Carr or

871
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: whoever the heck is out there? Mayfield? I don't know.

872
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: Derek Carr with Arthur Smith in Atlanta could be could

873
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: be kind of interesting. Yeah, I don't think Atlanta people

874
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: would love it, but I think he would make them.

875
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: They're five and time football team. They've been closer to

876
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Car would start pushing that team

877
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: over the top. It would start if New Orleans comes

878
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: into play. Is that just the feel of like, oh,

879
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: we're getting Andy Dalton again. Oh maybe it might feel

880
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: like that, but Car is at this point, at this point,

881
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: at the Car's probably about four or five times a

882
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: quarterback to Andy is all right, that's a discussion that

883
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: we are going to table for now because we're gonna

884
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: come back to that at the end of the season

885
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: for sure, because Derek Carr has been benched in Las Vegas.

886
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: Speaking of that around the NFL is next, we'll see

887
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: what's going on with its Texans and the Jaguars injury

888
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: report and other news in the NFL. Next right here

889
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Speaker 1: in Texas Axis, welcome back this segment of Texans All

890
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Speaker 1: Access from the Hunday Texans Radio studio of John Harris

891
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: Football I know a southun reporter, and let's dive into

892
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: the injury or port Texans how to walk through on Wednesday?

893
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: If you remember the SeeU next Wednesday in a locker room, Well,

894
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 1: there was a walkthrough today, but if they did have

895
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: a practice, three players would not have played in a

896
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: boy Titias Howard, Jimmy Morrissey, m j Stewart. Those three

897
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: with concussions, tigue with Tooriano deal with a thigh, they

898
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: would not have participated. But Kenny Green, Justin McCrae expected

899
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: to get a little bit more time back in practice.

900
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: That's good. Here's one the Jaguars did practice and Trevor

901
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: Lawrence did not keep an eye on that one this week.

902
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: He's the biggest name of those that did not participate. Now,

903
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: there's a big game in AFC South, seemingly on Thursday night,

904
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: and it includes the Tennessee Titans. Well, it includes a

905
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: lot of the Tennessee Titans, but not a lot of

906
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: them that we're gonna see. Derek Henry is listed as doubtful.

907
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: He's not gonna play. Also, this says doubtful. Christian Fulton,

908
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: he's not gonna play, more than likely. Deco Autry, this

909
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: says doubtful. He's more than likely not gonna play. Dylan Cole,

910
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: Zack Cunningham, Bud Dupree and Monty Hooker, Nicholas petite Frere,

911
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: Ryan Taniel, Josh Thompson, and Jeffrey Simmons. Out out, out, out, out,

912
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: out out out. Did they get everybody throwing? Autry? Fulton

913
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: and Henry, and you're gonna get a team mailing idiot

914
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: on Thursday night which get Ediet guys healthy to be

915
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: able to go to Jacksonville. The game means nothing in

916
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: the FC cell standings. Tennessee has to be ready to

917
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Speaker 1: play the Jaguars in week eighteen, and they're gonna do

918
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: it by getting some guys some rest. All right, we

919
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: get back, let's go, mambe out of mikes. Yes, my man,

920
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: Frank Franji joins Mark vanderbur Next right here on Texans

921
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: All acxis we got one hour down, one hour left

922
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: to go. Right here on a Wednesday Nation of Texans

923
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: All Access. I'm your host, John Harris Football on a

924
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: sideline reporter. It's time to go man behind the mics

925
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: with two guys that I know very well. One of

926
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Speaker 1: my closest friends, obviously Mark vandermir but guy that I've

927
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: known well my entire adult life. Basically, I got down

928
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville when I was twenty two years old and

929
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Speaker 1: I started listening to a guy named Frank Frangie in

930
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Speaker 1: the radio. And listen to Frank. He was part of

931
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Speaker 1: my inspiration and want to get into sports radio business.

932
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Speaker 1: And well, here you go, Mark Vannimir with Frank Frangie,

933
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: the play by played voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars, take

934
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: a listen, joining us down Texans Radio's voice of the

935
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, Frank Frangie, Frank, always a pleasure to visit.

936
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: How's it been going? And I know what the answer is,

937
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: very well, much better than last time. Tell me Mark,

938
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: great to be with you. Marry Christmas to you and

939
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: all the folks in Houston. And yeah, yeah, it's much better.

940
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: We've waited a long time for a run like this

941
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: of sports markers, you know. And look, we've won five

942
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: out of seven. That doesn't happen around here much. And

943
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is playing in a really good level. And

944
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: I think those two things are It's not a coincidence

945
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: that are happening together. That Jacks are playing pretty well, right,

946
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,879
Speaker 1: So these are good times. There's a lot left to do,

947
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: two important games left for this football team. But yeah,

948
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: right now, the jack has been playing pretty well, all right?

949
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: Is it Lawrence or is it other things? I know

950
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: it's a team game, Frank, but you tell me the

951
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: biggest reason why the Jaguars have turned it around so swiftly.

952
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: I really believe, and Mark, you and I've had this

953
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: talk a thousand times. If you get coach and quarterback

954
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: figured out in this league, you're on the big things.

955
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: Whether you're Belichick and Brady or Andy Reid and Patrick

956
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes or Sean Payton and Drew Brees. And I'm not

957
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: saying Trevors those guys, but when you get quarterback and

958
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: coach figured out, you're headed in the right direction. I'm

959
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: a big believer that is as difficult as he could

960
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: be to deal with the times when Bill O'Brien and

961
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson had it gone there. You guys are winning

962
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: divisions every year. Now, part of that was a great

963
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: defense in JJ Watt, Whitney, Mercilesson and a bunch of

964
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: great defensive players. I get that, But when you get

965
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: coaching quarterback kind of figured out, I think that's when

966
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: teams win. So I think it's that I think more

967
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: than anything else. The defense has not played well this year.

968
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: They've been up and down, but the office is very good,

969
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: and Trevor's better every week. Mark, in the last seven

970
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: weeks he's got fourteen touchdowns at one pick. That's why

971
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: they've won five out of seven games. He's really played

972
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: well with the lady. Really has Frank Frangie, voice of

973
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars with us. Well, what else? What other

974
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: things besides Lawrence's improved play can you point to? Frank?

975
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: You mentioned the defense isn't exactly there yet, but they

976
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: are winning games. So what do you think overall other

977
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: than Lawrence? Yeah, I think the passing game overall has

978
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: been good. Travis e Tm the running back. He went

979
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards last week, and really Mark he's

980
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: a rookie if you think about it. He was a

981
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: rookie last year but had the Liz Frankie and jury

982
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: didn't play, so it's really his rookie year. He's been

983
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: very good. They've protected Trevor, and remember they brought in

984
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: three brand new receivers in free agency and all have

985
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: been very good. Christian Kirk, Zay Jones, the tight end,

986
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram Evans about to have the best tight end

987
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: receiving year in franchise history. He's got these six yards

988
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: for that. Christian Kirk and day Jones Gardy his career highs.

989
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: So I think that passing game first and foremost. I

990
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: think Travis Etn has been a good running back. Defensively,

991
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm telling you they struggled, but I think they figured

992
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 1: out who they are. They're more of a zone team

993
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: that looks right now. They don't play as much man,

994
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: they keep stuff in front of them. They have a

995
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: rush to pastor Well, they've been pretty good against the run,

996
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: better against the run than the past. So there's still

997
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: some holes defensively, but I'm telling you it's been that

998
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: passing game. It's been the rhythm. Here's another thing too,

999
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: it's good a play caller is Doug Peterson is Mark.

1000
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: He's a great culture center too. He's a leader, and

1001
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: I think the guys trust him. You know, it was

1002
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: a disaster here last year. You know that with urban

1003
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: Meyer just didn't work and he had to regain those

1004
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: guys trust. He had young guys the only way they know,

1005
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: all they know is what they saw last year, and

1006
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: he had to kind of convince him that's not how

1007
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: you do it. And so it's a it's been a

1008
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: really fun year, certainly a fun last a month and

1009
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: a half of this team. Well, it's funny because you know,

1010
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: walking up to the press box or to the press

1011
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: box elevator you walk by the football offices and I

1012
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: guess it's near the locker room area or whatever where

1013
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: you see stuff on the walls, and one of the

1014
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: things is win the division, and that's a daily message

1015
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: to the players. And at the time, I thought, you know,

1016
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: it's October ninth. I'm thinking, ha, well, here you are

1017
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: with a chance to win the division. Tell me what's

1018
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: your favorite win. What do you think is the big

1019
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: win so far? Was it the Tennessee win, the Cowboy win?

1020
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: You tell me, Frank, Yeah, I don't think it's even close.

1021
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: This team hasn't won and this season hasn't swept the

1022
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: Titan since oh six, within sixteen years since they swept them.

1023
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: They hadn't won in Tennessee since thirteen. I think winning

1024
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: in Nashville quieting the national crowd. You know how much

1025
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: respect I have for that that Titans organization. I think

1026
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: they do things the right way. I think Mike Brabels

1027
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: a really good coach. They played with a toughness about them.

1028
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: They run the football with Derrick Henry. I've got great

1029
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: respects of the Titans, and I think to go win

1030
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: against the team that has been that good in this division,

1031
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: a place you haven't won since two thirteen. Now, a

1032
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: chance to sweep a team you have it swepts in

1033
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and six. I think it was that one. Now.

1034
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: In terms of best game, that Dallas game a few

1035
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: weeks ago was unbelievable ended, you know, on a pick

1036
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: six in overtime. You don't get that very often, and

1037
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: the place was electric. But in terms of the win

1038
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: that I think turned the tape, turned the tide, if

1039
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: you will, to cliche. But the win that kind of

1040
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: changed things, I think it was that win in Nashville

1041
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Mark this team, there was just something special. You could

1042
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: feel it on the plane back, you could feel it

1043
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: when you were around them. They turned the corner at all,

1044
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they turned the corner yet.

1045
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: It's this thing's just starting. But if things changed, that

1046
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: was the game that kind of signified it. It really was.

1047
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie voices the Jacksonville Jaguars with us. What about

1048
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: the game against New York last Thursday night on the road.

1049
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: You have last year's number one and number two pick

1050
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: going out of a quarterback. I know Wilson's been in

1051
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: a different situation. They bring him back into the fold

1052
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: because they have to, But I thought that was a

1053
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: real nice take care of business victory on the road

1054
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: against a team that really needed the game badly. Yeah. No,

1055
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Speaker 1: I think you're right, and I agree with you. Take

1056
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: care of business is the right phrase for that game,

1057
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: and I think it proved marked that they can win

1058
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: that wing. You know, we know now that Trevor can

1059
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: can throw three or four touchdowns and pass for three

1060
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: hundred yards and can win shootout, But can you win

1061
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: a game when it's raining the whole game and it's

1062
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: hard to grip the ball and there's not going to

1063
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: be a lot of offense and the winning team is

1064
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: going to be in the teams and the losing team

1065
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: might be in single digits? Can you win that kind

1066
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: of game? Because they hadn't been that kind of a team.

1067
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: That kind of a team is a there's a run

1068
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: first team and they're not that. So they proved they

1069
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: could win a game a different way. And look, there's

1070
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: something to be said when you're when you're a team

1071
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: is where the Jags are. You haven't played a lot

1072
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: of nationally televised games. No, you know, everyone's watching. Even

1073
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: it was an ugly game and rain and whatnot. It's

1074
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: still a little different paradigm for this group. So I

1075
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: thought that game was significant for all those reasons. Frank,

1076
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about the division here. What do you make

1077
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: of what the Titans are going through right now having

1078
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: lost five in a row going into the Thursday night er. Yeah,

1079
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: in fairness to that franchise, they've had so many guys hurt,

1080
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: not the least of which is Tannehill, who knows like

1081
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: he's out for the year. They've had so many guys.

1082
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: Are you you saw him last week? There's still a

1083
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: tough those teams. There's still a physical team. They know

1084
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: how to play again, they play football the right way.

1085
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: They're just so beat up right now. So what you

1086
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: have in the league really is, in my opinion, mark

1087
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: one beat up team and three teams that are trying

1088
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: to rebuild. The Jags are trying to rebuild. It's the

1089
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: first year under Doug Peterson, second year under WHI Trevor

1090
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: Largs as a quarterback from Afar. It looks like that's

1091
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of where the Texans are the Technic and I

1092
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: think the Technics are going to rebuild. Got a bunch

1093
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: of draft picks. I think the Texans are way better

1094
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: than a team that's won twice. They're in every game,

1095
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: So I think it's a damn good two win team

1096
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: if such a thing exists. And I don't think the

1097
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: coach is still where to go yet. You don't know

1098
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: who their coach is going to be next year, you

1099
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: don't know who their quarterback is going to be. So

1100
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: really it's one team that's very injured and three teams

1101
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: that are trying to rebuild. And I think that's why,

1102
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: and that's why the division winner is gonna have seven

1103
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: or eight wins or eight or nine wins that I

1104
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: think that's the reason is that division's gonna find itself.

1105
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: It's not always going to be this way. The Texans

1106
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: have proven how good they can be. They want a

1107
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: lot of divisions a lot of years in a row.

1108
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: I've got great respect for the Titans, and I think

1109
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: the figure it out too. I still think it's going

1110
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: to be a good division, but right now it's not

1111
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: a great division because you've got a lot of rebuilding teams.

1112
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie, Voice of the Jaguars with US, Frank, what's

1113
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: the best team you've seen so far this year? You

1114
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: played Philadelphia, Dallas, the chiefs. What's the best team that

1115
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have faced in your opinion, I think at

1116
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City. I think the Jags played a really good

1117
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: game that they mark and lost by ten. That was

1118
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: other than that game against Detroit where every team gets

1119
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: the stinker. Our game at Detroit was the stinker. But

1120
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: other than that game of Detroit, the Jackson in every game,

1121
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: the only one they lost by double digits other than

1122
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: that one was the Kansas City game and it was

1123
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: by ten. I think the chiefs of the team to be. Now.

1124
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the Bills this year, but I haven't

1125
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: seen the Eagles. That game was kind of funky too.

1126
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: It was the fourth game of the year. Jags were

1127
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: two and one when they went up there, and that

1128
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: was another one of those rain games you really couldn't tell.

1129
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: But I would say Kansas City's the best team. They're

1130
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: just so good, they know how to play. Mahomes is

1131
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: so good and you read such a veteran. They've got

1132
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: a veteran defensive coordinator. They got all the ingredient. If

1133
00:51:58,520 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: you look at the team that's got a really good

1134
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: play caller, older veteran coordinator, quarterback who's all the raid.

1135
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: That's that's the equation, Mark, don't you think And I

1136
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: think they've got that part figured out. Frank. How's the

1137
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: fan base reacting to this surge by the Jaguars. They've

1138
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: been so patient and I got to imagine they're buying

1139
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: in or are they really hesitant to buy in? No,

1140
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: you're right, they're over the moon. They've waited so long.

1141
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: And remember now, Mark, and you know, you and I've

1142
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: had this talk. You know our area, our buddy John

1143
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: Harris lived here. You know you know this city. Well,

1144
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: there are there's no basketball, there's no baseball, there's no hockey.

1145
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: This is what this city has. This is We're kind

1146
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: of like Buffalo in that regard. This is it. The

1147
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: Jags are what they have. You there're some Gator fans

1148
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: and seven Old fans and a lot of Georgia fans.

1149
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: They're pretty happy these days. But what this city has

1150
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: is the Jaguars, and it looks like, for the first

1151
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: time in a long time, maybe the Jags have some

1152
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: things figured out. You know, that seventeen team was really good.

1153
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: There was one bad call away from going to the

1154
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, but it was still a team that was

1155
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: some of those guys more about me than they were

1156
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,959
Speaker 1: about the team. You know, the guys are on that team,

1157
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: and it just it was it was the chemistry that

1158
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: was gonna have a tough time working over the long haul.

1159
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't sustainable. This looks like it is now. Again,

1160
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: it's early. It's still a team at seven and eight,

1161
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 1: and I don't want to make it out like they're

1162
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: they're twelve and three. But you can see some things

1163
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: here and it looks like it's sustainable. So I think

1164
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: the fan base is over the moon. I think it

1165
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: was rocking for that Dallas game. It's going to really

1166
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: be rocking when the Titans come in here a week

1167
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: from Sunday or Saturday, whenever they's had to play that game.

1168
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: So right now, market, this fan base is excited. They

1169
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: waited a long time, man, These people have waited a

1170
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: long time for something that feels like this field. It's

1171
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: not there yet, but it feels like it could be. Well,

1172
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: it's been a long time coming, as you say, Frank,

1173
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: and you tell me because you've lived through all of

1174
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: this stuff. I look at teams that are searching for

1175
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: the recipe quarterback coach, and let's talk about quarterback here.

1176
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: You know, you look at the Titans. They had Vince

1177
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: Young and Jake Locker and Marcus Mariota, and none of

1178
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: those guys really worked out the way they needed him to.

1179
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: And the Jaguars and Bortles and Blaine Gabbert now have

1180
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and it looks very good in year two here.

1181
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: But where are you at with the building process of

1182
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: NFL teams and how you got to get it done?

1183
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: Do you keep trying to take that quarterback or is

1184
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: there another way to do it? In your opinion, I

1185
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: think coaching quarterback that's why. That's why people try so

1186
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: hard to get them. That's why they get drafted so high.

1187
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: That's why we got a guy Anthony Richardson here at

1188
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: Florida that came out this year. He was really average. Mark,

1189
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: you know, you see college football, you're a college football guy.

1190
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: He was a pretty average player. They were six and six,

1191
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: But he's six four or two forty. He's a four

1192
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: or five guys. He can throw it from here to

1193
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. And for that reason, he's going to go

1194
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: in the first round. I think teams need quarterbacks so

1195
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: badly that I think it's got to start with a

1196
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: coach who builds a culture, and it's got to start

1197
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: with a quarterback. If you look around the league, there's

1198
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: not much. There's not many teams left now to win

1199
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: any other way. Now. Quarterbacks played different ways. Lamar Jackson

1200
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: wins different ways than Tom Brady one. But I think

1201
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: you've got to have quarterback, and I think if you

1202
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 1: don't have that, I think you have to build. As

1203
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: for this team, they've got a chance now to get built.

1204
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: They've got to young defensive players. They still got to

1205
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: prove the pass rush that's been disappointing this year. They've

1206
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: gotten more and they need more cornerback they haven't covered

1207
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: this year. But this team is starting to build that thing.

1208
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: I think it really is. I think, and again you

1209
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: talk about the division, the other three of the three opponents,

1210
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: and you can speak to this for Houston better than

1211
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: I can, But I think you've got three teams who

1212
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: aren't quite sure where they are at quarterback. Davis Mills

1213
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: has been terrific for a while, but he's not playing now.

1214
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: The Titans, I don't think Malik Willis might be their guy,

1215
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: but I don't know that he is. And I don't

1216
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: think the Colts have any idea who that guy is.

1217
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: So so it's an interesting diviend that goes up and down,

1218
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: doesn't This is a division that had Peyton Manning and

1219
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. This is a division had to Shaun Watson

1220
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: all those years. Tanne Hill has been playing great for

1221
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: the Titans most recently, and back in the day they

1222
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: had Steve McNair. So it's been a division with good quarterback.

1223
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: But right now it's a division that other than the Jags,

1224
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: I don't think the other teams know who got quarterbacks

1225
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 1: is going to be, which makes it a very interesting

1226
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: next two or three years. All Right, I have to

1227
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 1: ask you a college football question, Frank Frank Franzi voice

1228
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: in the Jacksonville Jaguars with us. You're in Gator Country

1229
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: and so many people follow college football so closely where

1230
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: you are, and you do a daily talk show in

1231
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: Jacksonville NI L good or bad thing? And where is

1232
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: it going with all the transfer portal stuff and nil

1233
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: deals being thrown around? And you know, Johnny and I

1234
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: were talking about do guys actually start staying in school

1235
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: because they get an increase in their NIL deal? They

1236
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: give it one more shot? Is that going to be

1237
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: a reality? Here if it's not already your thoughts on

1238
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 1: the overall situation, well, number one, nil is a good

1239
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: or bad na l is a good thing that they

1240
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: are doing badly. That's the problem. I think I told

1241
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: you this before, all right. My analogy is if the

1242
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: government decided that the speed limits were wrong, and so

1243
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: they took down all those seventy five million hour speed

1244
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: limit signs and they're going to put up new ones.

1245
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: They might get it right eventually, but until they put

1246
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: the new ones up, everyone's gonna drob one hundred and

1247
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: twenty miles an hour. Everyone want to get there right. Well,

1248
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: I think that's what's happened. They think they've taken the

1249
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: speed limit times down, but they haven't put up any

1250
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: new ones, so nobody really knows the rules now, so

1251
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: I think it's totally out of hand. It was never

1252
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: intended to be a recruiting inducement, and that's what it's become.

1253
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: And obviously an hour and a half from where you

1254
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: live is the guy that did it the most, and

1255
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: that's Jimbo Fisher, you know, and that backfired Artum a

1256
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: little bit this year. But the reality is the real

1257
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: reality is just being used as a recruiting inducement. I

1258
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 1: don't think that's a good thing. And I think they've

1259
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: got to get some guard rails market. I think at

1260
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: some point they have to. As for the transfer portal,

1261
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: imagine the NFL. Think about this for a second. Imagine

1262
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: the NFL. If there are only one year contracts, think

1263
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: about that for second market. There's only one year contracts

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00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: in the league, so you can't have more than a

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00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: one year contract. Well, then everybody's a free agent every year.

1266
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: Right everybody is a free agent every year. And that's

1267
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: what college football is. There's one year scholarships and people

1268
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: are poaching players all the time. It's a mess. Right now.

1269
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: I see again, the teams that know how to do

1270
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: it best are still going to be the best teams.

1271
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: But right now, right now, the ni al and transfer

1272
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: portal has changed college football and it's almost unrecognizable to

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: what we want to do. What really is Frank, great stuff.

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00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: As always. I always enjoy the visits and look forward

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00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: to seeing you on Sunday, look forward to seeing your market.

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00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: It'll be fun take here, man, Yes, it will be

1277
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: a lot of fun on Sunday. New Year's Day twenty

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00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: twenty three is Texas take on the Jacksonville Jaguars, and

1279
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: they will take on the Jaguars with running back Ryce

1280
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: Freeman toting the rock. Well, you have a chance to

1281
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: catch up with Deep City with a little Deep Slant

1282
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: Interview of the week right here at Texans All Access.

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00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: It's time for the SLB Stats Challenge, brought to you

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00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: by our good friends at SLB. Take the SLB Stats

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: Challenge at Houston Texans dot com. The number is seventy eight.

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00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: Seventy eight is your stat What is that number? Derrick Henry?

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: Last week, it gets the Texans ran the ball twenty

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00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: three times, four hundred and twenty six yards and you go,

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00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: wait a second, where do you get seventy eight out

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00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: of that? Well, he had one round of forty eight yards.

1291
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: I was a touchdown runners the first touchdown of the day,

1292
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: and it was the first touchdown to day for the Titans.

1293
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: And it looked like it was gonna be another Derek

1294
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: Henry two hundred yard day. Oh my gosh, we're gonna

1295
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: go through this again. Yet twenty two other carries, Derrick

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00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: Henry was held to seventy eight yards. That's the best

1297
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: outing they've had against him since twenty eighteen. I think

1298
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen he even had like eighty something yards

1299
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: in that game against Texans on December fifteen, twenty nineteen

1300
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: with the Texas one that game and that went a

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00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: long way to Clinton Division in twenty nineteen. So Texas

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00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: the other day twenty two carries seventy eight yards for

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00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: Henry finally got off that two hundred yard game schneide

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: if you will, and got it done in that is

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00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: your SLB stats challenge for this evening. All right, let's

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: talk about our running back here, and that's Royce Freeman.

1307
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 1: He sat down with Deep Cider for a little deep

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00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: slant interview of the week. Deep you take it away.

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00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: It's a deep slant one on one presented Vixfinity. My

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Speaker 1: guests this week running back Royce Freeman, who I love

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01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: the Twitter handle rolls Royce twenty eight. Obviously you can't

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01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: have twenty eight this year with Rex. But are you

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01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: pretty active on social media? Not really, honestly, I mean

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01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: as a reason, I just used it to catch up

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01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: on news and see, you know what's going on. All right,

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01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: So you've gotten into the game the last few games

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: with Damian Pierce and I are, and I think a

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01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: lot of people are surprised with the style of running

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01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: that you bring to the field. You're averaging five point

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01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: five yards per carry. Do you think that you've surprised

1321
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: people or is this who you've been all along and

1322
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: just haven't had a chance to really get it out there. Yeah,

1323
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: I think it's more of the latter. I don't really

1324
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: worry too much about, you know, outside opinions and all

1325
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: those things. But I'm confident in myself and my abilities,

1326
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: you know, just waiting for the opportunity and presenting itself.

1327
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: Just going out there, trying to make the most of that,

1328
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: and you know, bring different assets of my game onto

1329
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: the field and help the team win. What about your

1330
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 1: the assets of your game are? We know, what are

1331
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: some aspects of your ability as a running back that

1332
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: you think you really bring to the ground game. Yeah,

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01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean being a bigger back, as they probably would say,

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01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean definitely that physicality and downhill running style. But

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Speaker 1: my earlier parts of my career, I was also a

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01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: third down back and played a lot of special teams

1337
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: when I was in Denver, So having that background makes

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01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: me kind of versatile. So I can play in the

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01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: kicking game, and as well stay on the field on

1340
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: third downs, blitz pickups and then go out there and

1341
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 1: catch passes as well. You really are the definition of

1342
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: the next man up. I mean, last year we saw

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01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: with Carolina you were there when Christian McCaffrey was injured.

1344
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: He comes back, they release you the text and scoop

1345
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: you up, and then you did a lot of things

1346
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: for the ground game last year. This year you've spent

1347
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,959
Speaker 1: most of the season on practice squad. What's the last

1348
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: year and this year been like for you? You were

1349
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: a third round picked to Denver, so a lot of

1350
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: stability early on in your career and then the last

1351
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: two seasons a little bit more up in the air.

1352
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: But what does that like for you as a player. Yeah,

1353
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: it's been different for me and for my family, you know,

1354
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: just seeing the difference between you know, how I started

1355
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 1: my career and where I am currently. But like I said,

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01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm confident in my abilities, you know, and that's why

1357
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: I when I go out there, I try to make

1358
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: the most of you know, the opportunities I do get.

1359
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: What I do feel that helps me is that versus

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01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, all the things that I can

1361
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: do I can get plugged into different places, and being

1362
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: a VET as well, having that knowledge and being able

1363
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: to pick up offenses quickly, I think that helps out

1364
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: a lot. But being here last year, being able to

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01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: be plugged into the system and play right away when

1366
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: they needed me, I think definitely helped out. Just to

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01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: have that. The transition from last year to this year,

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01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: you've got the consistency playbook changes a little bit, but

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01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: not too much really as far as you're concerned. Yeah,

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01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: not too much. I mean then some of the coaches

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: as far as a lot of them actually a lot

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01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: of familiarity with them with them returning as well. So

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01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: I feel like at the end of last year having

1374
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: that exposure definitely helped me. All right. So one thing

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01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: that did change for you in the off season you

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01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: became a dad. Yeah, congratulation, thank you. So how is

1377
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: it being different being a dad and playing football. It

1378
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: is a little different. I don't know. I just my family,

1379
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: my wife and my son seeing them at the games

1380
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: when they do come, it's it's amazing. It's like a

1381
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: feeling like no other. My little man he doesn't really

1382
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: know too much of what's going on right now. But

1383
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: looking back when he does get older, being able to

1384
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: show him those memories, I mean, just irreplaceable, you know.

1385
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: And I mean, like I said, I just wouldn't have

1386
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: in any other way. Okay, so your son was born

1387
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: what month, July July, So he's not even a year

1388
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: old yet. No, it's only like JJ Watt who announced

1389
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: his retirement, last home game for him, first home game

1390
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: for his baby. I imagine that's just such a special

1391
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: feeling to see her, To see your baby at the game,

1392
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't know what. No, Yeah, no, it

1393
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: definitely is a special, special feeling, like I said, like

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01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: because when he does get older and he sees those

1395
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: memories that he, you know, just can't remember, he'll have

1396
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: just like a moment of like wow, you know, and

1397
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: then and you know, for my wife and I those

1398
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: are special for us living in the moment to be

1399
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: able to do those things with him, because as my

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: career advances, and you know, our family advances as well,

1401
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: just having those memories are just, like like I said,

1402
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: just irreplaceable. During I might cause my cleats, you posted

1403
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: about sickle cell awareness and you put it out there

1404
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 1: that your son was diagnosed just a few days after

1405
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: he was born. So you know, how does how did

1406
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: that affect you and your family? And how is your

1407
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 1: son now? He's great, He's in great health. I mean

1408
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: we've been able to have contact with a lot of

1409
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: a great medical staff being in the medical center, also

1410
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: having familiarity with it with the text and staff. Just

1411
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: education wise, and my wife has definitely done a great

1412
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: job as far as like educating me on things as

1413
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: well as far as the research and you know the

1414
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: progress is with sickle cell disease and just making sure

1415
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: that we're on top of it, especially him being so young.

1416
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: You know, the seasons changing with exposure to different things,

1417
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: and how we go about our day to day. It's

1418
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 1: it's different. But for the most part, I think that

1419
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: he is our blessing, our little blessing, and you know,

1420
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: just excited to care for him as we go forward

1421
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: and give him the best, most optimal health. I imagine

1422
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: it just puts things in perspective. I mean, you go

1423
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: through so many hardships in football, but then once you

1424
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: have a baby and then you go through something like that,

1425
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: I probably just I would I don't want to say

1426
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: dims like all the other hardships like when it comes

1427
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: to football, but I imagine, just puts it in perspective. Yeah.

1428
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: Like I said, it just puts into perspective. I mean,

1429
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 1: you know, I always like to say somebody's having a

1430
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: worse day than you, Like sometimes we have You're having

1431
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: a down moment. But our goal is to you know,

1432
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: eventually help build more exposure for cycle cell disease and

1433
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: those with it, you know, with whether that be funding, exposure,

1434
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: just more research to the to the cause and to

1435
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: the disease for people like my son, you know, so

1436
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: they have the options and the resources moving forward. I

1437
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: love it, and you know, thank you so much for

1438
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: bringing that to people's attention with I don't think I

1439
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: would have known about it if it wasn't for my

1440
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: cause my cleat So oh well, that's great. I mean

1441
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: you're literally bringing awareness, all right. So switching gears, you

1442
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: went to college and at Oregon, Yes, and this roster

1443
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: has got a lot of guys that went to Oregon State.

1444
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: So you've got Steven Nelson, Brandon Increatoriana just drafted out

1445
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: of Yes. Is there any rivalry as far as that

1446
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: is concerned. No, No, I mean they got us this year.

1447
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, I had to give them the nod you know,

1448
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: but I mean it happens. I think, you know with

1449
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: the big dog, you know what I'm saying, or you

1450
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: know how it goes in that Civil War rivalry or

1451
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: you know what name the name changed to. Yeah, I

1452
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: had to correct myself, but I do think that it's great.

1453
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, people from the pack being able to be

1454
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: amongst each other, especially on the same team. So how

1455
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: did you pick Oregon? First of all? And you talk

1456
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: about big dogs? I mean you said a lot of records,

1457
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: you said pack twelve records, you said school records. And

1458
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: how did you pick Oregon over You're from California evaginally,

1459
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: so how did you pick Oregon over other schools? Yeah,

1460
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm originally from southern California, and just going there and

1461
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: visiting the school and seeing where they were at the time,

1462
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: I feel like they fitted the style that I wanted

1463
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: to become as a player going to the next level.

1464
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: And when I was talking to the coaching staff, I

1465
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be you solely as you know, a

1466
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 1: big back. They wanted to get me exposed in the

1467
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 1: passing game. They wanted to see me catch the ball

1468
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: in the backfield and do different things for my game.

1469
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: And I think that what sold me because it would

1470
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: help me at the next level and become more versatile.

1471
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: And you got to play with a quarterback you know

1472
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: by the name Marcus Mariota. Yes, what was that like

1473
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: for you? I mean it was crazy coming in my

1474
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: freshman year and having it was his last year. It

1475
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: was it was his last year, his Heisman year, and

1476
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 1: just seeing all that and like the standard that which

1477
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: he played too, and where it had gotten him. You know,

1478
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: it was definitely something that you know, I appreciated seeing

1479
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: and working with, So I mean it was great, it was.

1480
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: And then to see him get drafted number two. Yeah,

1481
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 1: it's crazy, Yeah, definitely, I mean well deserved. I mean,

1482
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: everything that you know we put out there on the

1483
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: field I saw every day in practice from them. Do

1484
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: you still keep in touch with him? I know you

1485
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: guys didn't spend a lot of time together. He's still

1486
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: obviously in the league's playing, so guys keep in touch

1487
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: over the year. It's not close contact, but definitely we

1488
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 1: play against each other. We have a small talk and

1489
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 1: you know, be able to catch up for the most part.

1490
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: All right, before I let you go, what do you

1491
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: think about this running backscrew because you said you were

1492
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: here last year, but it's changed obviously this year. You've

1493
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,959
Speaker 1: got Damian Piers and then you've got of course Rex

1494
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: Burke at coming back, Dara Gumbuala who had been with

1495
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: the team but not when you were here previously, and

1496
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: then of course try Hairston to have a full back

1497
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: and the group. I think that the group dynamic is

1498
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: really great. I mean it starts with dB. I mean

1499
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: he's amazing coach Uh really yeah, sorry, yeah, coach coach GB.

1500
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: And between dB and DP and then I'm okay, yeah,

1501
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: I always feel like yeah, and he's great. I mean

1502
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: he's definitely you know, helped us like elevate our games

1503
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: because he's just coach for so long. You know, we

1504
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: have veterans in the room, um, starting with Rex, you know,

1505
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: Dare myself, and then the rookies Troy and Damien. I

1506
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: mean just coming into league and to be able to

1507
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 1: do as well as they have, you know, their first

1508
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: year is just amazing, honestly. I mean I look at

1509
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: them and their work ethic and you know the hunger

1510
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: they have, you know, just early on in their career

1511
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for them. I mean, and um, they

1512
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: definitely help our room out a tremendous amount. Ryce was

1513
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: a pleasure getting to do you a little bit better.

1514
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: Best to left for the rest of the season things.

1515
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate you. I'll tell you this Nique

1516
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: guy really fun got to talk to. We had him

1517
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: in our studio back in June. May or June we

1518
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 1: did our media days and Mark and I had a

1519
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: chance the interview and we really enjoyed talking to Rice

1520
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: Freeman both on and off the air. And hopefully he'll

1521
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: continue what he's been doing, grinding out yards, picking up

1522
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: big carries. I mean, he was really I think that

1523
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: was the only run play on the final drive was

1524
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: a great little four yard run that got down to

1525
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 1: the six yard line on first down. So a lot

1526
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 1: of Rice Freeman. I'm happy with that. I was also

1527
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: very happy calling a lot of JJ Watt's games in

1528
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: the lab. Drew Dorty and I discussed the retirement in

1529
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: the career as a Houston Texan of JJ Watt. That's

1530
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: next right here on Texans All Access. We all final

1531
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,679
Speaker 1: segment of this Wednesday. They should of Texans All Access.

1532
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris Football on a side the

1533
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: Reporter one half of the End of the Lab podcast

1534
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: duo myself and Drew Doherty. We chop it up every

1535
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: single week. This week is easy. About two hours before

1536
01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: we recorded our podcast, JJ Watt announced cryptically is tirement.

1537
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,719
Speaker 1: I would imagine that's what he meant with his words

1538
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: about playing his last NFL home game last week. So

1539
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: Drew and I, of course, knowing JJ and beeting around

1540
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: here for the majority of his career, both of us well,

1541
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: we talked about Big ninety nine and what he meant

1542
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: to the team and the stories and everything right here

1543
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: on into the lap. Let's go, John, You and I

1544
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: have had a front row seat to greatness, that is correct.

1545
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: So normally we would talk about the Texans and what

1546
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: was a really fun win, a very eventful win, a

1547
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: truly memorable win because of the cold, the postponement, the

1548
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 1: way it ended, all that stuff. But we're gonna push

1549
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: all that aside because the greatness which we're referencing was

1550
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 1: the career of JJ Watt. We saw it. You were

1551
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 1: on the sidelines starting in twenty fourteen through now, so

1552
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: you saw a pair of defensive player of the year seasons,

1553
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest season by any defensive player of all

1554
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: time in twenty fourteen. I was at the airport in

1555
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: twenty eleven the morning after he got drafted and picked

1556
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: him up, put a microphone on him and shot he

1557
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: and his family's first day in Houston. So we've seen

1558
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff in our time covering JJ Watt,

1559
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: and on this podcast, we're gonna pinpoint the most memorable

1560
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: thing you saw from JJ on the field and the

1561
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: most memorable thing you saw from JJ off the field.

1562
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: So let's start with the field. Between the white lines.

1563
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: What thing, what one thing stands out to you the

1564
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: most When you think about JJ Watt and what he did,

1565
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: it's almost hard to put it into words. I mean,

1566
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it ever since it was announced Drew,

1567
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: and that he announced it, which which I love. He

1568
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: He was one who announced everything. He announced he was

1569
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: leaving from here, He announced he was leaving the card.

1570
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: He didn't leave it to somebody, he didn't whisper in

1571
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: somebody's ear and let them. He just he handled it all.

1572
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 1: I think the one thing that stood out to me

1573
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 1: Drew was after every game, we get what's called a

1574
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: game book, and it is a breakdown of the game.

1575
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: It's got all the different and stats, individual stats, team stats.

1576
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: It's got everything that you could possibly want, how long

1577
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: a drive went, where the drive started, how many yards.

1578
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where we get you know, all of

1579
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: our our stats. And so when we get on the

1580
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: on the plane, typically what happens is our PR department,

1581
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: led by Omar and Everett and Lindsay, they get on

1582
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: the plane and they walk around a gamebook game book,

1583
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: and we always grab one because we want to look

1584
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: at you know, who did what and kind of remind

1585
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: I always use one for Harris hits because it reminds you, oh, yeah,

1586
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: that play on such and such, Hey, what happened on this?

1587
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: You can see it online, but it's different with a

1588
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 1: little different, especially once you get in the air and

1589
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you Wi fi, so you gotta have the gamebook.

1590
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: So one thing I started noticing in twenty fourteen, I'm like,

1591
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the game book. And so the game

1592
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: book for the defensive categories is pretty interesting because it's

1593
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: got pretty much it's got everything, and as you're going

1594
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: through it, you're like, okay, what's all there. Well, there's tackles,

1595
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: there's cists, there's you know, the combined sack literally he said, tackles, assists,

1596
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: and combine, And for the most part, if you play defense,

1597
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: you're only in those three categories. And there's about eight

1598
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: or nine other categories in that list. So most defensive players,

1599
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: they only show up in those three categories. Sacks, TfL's

1600
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: quarterback hits, interceptions, passes, defense, forced fumbles, and fumble recoveries.

1601
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: And then they've got special teams, and then they got

1602
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: miscellaneous on the outside, which nobody really hits the miscellaneous

1603
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's like an offensive player tackling

1604
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,480
Speaker 1: gum or something like that. So those are the categories.

1605
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: And I started noticing as we were going through a

1606
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen season, I'm like, when you look at it,

1607
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 1: it just it's a bunch of zeros. I mean, most guys,

1608
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,480
Speaker 1: if you didn't put a zero net col Arnet category

1609
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: and you just took the zeros out, it'd be a

1610
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: bunch of white space with Watt and twenty fourteen in particular,

1611
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: he had games in which he hit every single category,

1612
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 1: which is remarkable, I mean, which is incredible. And a

1613
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: lot of times he put up a crooked number. It

1614
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 1: wasn't just a one, which meant that he was putting

1615
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: up a tackle, a sack, a TfL, a quarterback hit,

1616
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: an interception, a past defense, a forced fumble in a

1617
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: fumble recovery, all in the same game. And he did

1618
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: that multiple times, and so I never really came up

1619
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: with with what to call it. But I realized very

1620
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 1: very early, like, wait a second, they are a bunch

1621
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: of zeros for all these other guys. And I'm not

1622
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: just talking for Texas. I'm talking every team that's it,

1623
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: and that's every game, every game it's ever been played.

1624
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: And then I would look at his and I'm like,

1625
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: there's a number in every single category. And then in

1626
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: fourteen he starts going over to the offensive side of

1627
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: the ball, and I think the one that stays with

1628
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 1: me because it was the first one and I remember

1629
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: seeing it and I thought I wanted I always wanted

1630
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: to go out to Oakland. I was always enamored with Oakland,

1631
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,760
Speaker 1: you know, growing up as an NFL films kid, I

1632
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: just loved NFL films, and I loved the seventies NFL

1633
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: films of everything that happened in Oakland, as those are

1634
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: the teams of the time, Glenn Pittsburgh, So those those

1635
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: teams going to those places always could have made me,

1636
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 1: you know, feel a little different because it was those

1637
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: that was the history of the game. So we go

1638
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: out to Oakland our second game and we're playing in

1639
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 1: Oakland mediacal cal see Um where Ace played with the

1640
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: Raiders play. I just was so looking forward that game.

1641
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: We get down the first drive, get down on the

1642
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:20,560
Speaker 1: one yard line and I look out there and I'm like, oh,

1643
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: he's in the game, not even And I'm always in

1644
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: que with Mark and I'm like, what's it, tight end?

1645
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, I don't get end out of

1646
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 1: my mouth. And Fitz he drops the throat and they

1647
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 1: left him uncovered. They didn't cover him, and he catches

1648
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 1: a touchdown. And I just remember we were talking during

1649
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: a break, Mark, Andrew and myself we were talking and went,

1650
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: oh boy, this could get really interesting. That was week two,

1651
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,879
Speaker 1: and it did. It got really interesting. In twenty fourteen,

1652
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 1: he caught two more for touchdowns, and he caught two more.

1653
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: He had the one of them member against Cleveland. That

1654
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: was hard that he got his. He went out wide.

1655
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: Here's your tribute question. He went out wide one on one.

1656
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: Do you remember who he went dance one on one?

1657
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: Think about the Texans locker room. Now, was it Kirksey Kirsy? Okay,

1658
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: he was one of Kirtsy actually had good coverage. Yeah,

1659
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 1: in mallett first touchdown pass ever, I'm out through the J. J.

1660
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: Watt In that game he also had two roughing the

1661
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: potter penalties. Well you know what, you know he was

1662
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 1: he was close to blocking a punt and I bet

1663
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: you know he was. Probably he would have found another

1664
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: way to get a touchdown because he caught he ran

1665
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: for if he returned to fumble he returned an interception,

1666
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 1: that would have been another way to score a touchdown.

1667
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: He also had a safety that season. Yeah, yeah, that

1668
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: I remember in that Oakland touchdown that you're you're referencing

1669
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 1: there at the beginning, I'm up in the press box

1670
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: and a guy named Seth Medvin was a PR intern

1671
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: at the time, and he would go on to help

1672
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: run the show in Denver and um. But Seth just

1673
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: kind of elbowed me and said, hey, JJ wattson at

1674
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: tight end. And then it's sort of the same thing.

1675
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: I look up and the past is going his way,

1676
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: and I you know, you're about thirty seconds ahead of

1677
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 1: the broadcast, and I type JJ Watt catches a touchdown

1678
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are like what, huh what

1679
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 1: and then they saw it and it registered. But so

1680
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: in that game that this is just this that Cleveland

1681
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: game you're talking about. Yeah, in that Cleveland game, he

1682
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: had five tackles, he had a sack which amounted to

1683
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: six yards lost. He had three TFLs, he had a

1684
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 1: forced fumble, and he had a fumble recovery. I mean

1685
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: the only categories he didn't he caught ten receptions and

1686
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: pass defense and he caught a touchdown. Yeah, I mean

1687
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: that was that was That was one game. Oh and

1688
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: he had the two fifteen yard penalties, which was a

1689
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: hilarious story, um because Bill O'Brien was steaming mad about it,

1690
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: and he was, you know, you know, Brian, he's kind

1691
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: of stomp it up the sideline of JJ's kind of

1692
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: standing there his hands on his hips, knowing like he

1693
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: screwed up. Yeah, but he screwed up, you know, going hard.

1694
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: But he screwed up twice. And you could just sell

1695
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: Brian steaming. And after about ten seconds he looks over

1696
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: Jason go back in, and he went back in. He

1697
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 1: just wrecked shop. The rest of the game and to

1698
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: be fair to Bill O'Brien, he gets he gets uh,

1699
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: he gets called to the carpet on a lot of

1700
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: things over what happened here. But you gotta give him

1701
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of credit because some some head coaches

1702
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: would not have said or would not have let jj

1703
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: Watt go plan on off it. They said, no, you're

1704
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: an offense. He let that happen, and it did. It

1705
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: worked out, It worked out very well, and it made

1706
01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: your team better. How about you, Well, I've got a

1707
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 1: bunch and I also want to add one more a

1708
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 1: little aside, but you me, Deepe and Vandermer were in

1709
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: a meeting one time in the off season with O'Brien

1710
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: and he talked about or I don't know, maybe it

1711
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: was I don't know. Anyways, it was an off the

1712
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 1: record meeting and O'Brien said, jj Watt could get into

1713
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 1: you could take away every single sack that jj Watt

1714
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: ever did, you'd strip that from his career. And he said,

1715
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: I believe he's still a Hall of Famer based solely

1716
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: on what he did TfL wise, running running backs down

1717
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: and stopping guy. And I mean, if you look at it,

1718
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: he does have a slew at TFLs and I remember

1719
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 1: one of my best friends. He knows about sports. He

1720
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: played a little bit of football, you know, on the

1721
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: JV in high school, but he doesn't follow the game,

1722
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: and he's we kind of crack on him for it.

1723
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: But he came to the twenty fourteen game here against

1724
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: the Ravens and Justin for Sett was the rushing yardage

1725
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: leader that year and he was playing for the Ravens,

1726
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: and he my friend talked about how amazing it was

1727
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: that JJ basically broke through, picked up for set and

1728
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: slung him backwards and he, my friend used some UFC

1729
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: movie he did day Yeah, yeah, JJ Watt does those

1730
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: sort of things. But anyways, in between the lines, I

1731
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: mean the obvious one is the pick six in the

1732
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: playoff game. It just totally swung things. And it was

1733
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: kind of JJ Watts sort of coming out party as

1734
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: a star because the next week at Baltimore he played

1735
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: even better. I mean, he had multiple sacks CFLs. It

1736
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: was an amazing game, he says himself, that's the best

1737
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: game I ever had, The best game I ever played

1738
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: again against the Ravens in the playoffs, and if you look,

1739
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 1: it kind of was but I mean, I just think

1740
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: back to that twenty fourteen season and everything that he did,

1741
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: and it's more about after he caught that touchdown against

1742
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: the Titans because he'd gotten a strip sack, I believe

1743
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: to get the ball back for Coro Texans. And then

1744
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: he goes runs back in and catches the touchdown and

1745
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: he throws the ball up into the stands. But what

1746
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: would happen after all those touchdowns he scored that one,

1747
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 1: the one against the Bills, the funnel return, the one

1748
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 1: against Ursus was against the Colts, and then the pick

1749
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 1: six against the Bills. When he did those things, they

1750
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: go to break and normally here at the stadium, everything

1751
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: is so choreographed and you got to get a sponsor,

1752
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 1: some sort of you know this rot. You know, all

1753
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: that stuff has happened. We do not miss a beat

1754
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to that. But that year, to our credit,

1755
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 1: they would kind of push that stuff the side and

1756
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,120
Speaker 1: say we'll do it next break and they would just

1757
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: play turn down for what and they'd get it going.

1758
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 1: They'd lock on a fan with a ninety nine jersey

1759
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: on going crazy, and then they pan over to the

1760
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: sideline and JJ Wait would look at the camera and

1761
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: like stick his tongue out in the place, would it rut?

1762
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: And then they go back and the songs still playing.

1763
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: They go back to another fan, another fan, another fan,

1764
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: and then they go down to JJ and he just

1765
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 1: like raises eyebrows. The place would go bananas, and that's

1766
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,799
Speaker 1: how they would spend the break, and I loved it.

1767
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. I wish it would have

1768
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 1: resulted in playoffs and all that stuff, but that one

1769
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: and then I his last game, his last meaningful game here,

1770
01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, I think was the playoff win over the

1771
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 1: Bills when he came back. That was incredible because he

1772
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 1: had missed eight weeks and there, you know, being the building,

1773
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: he ignited things. He got the sack to ignite the win.

1774
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we're down, you know, thirteen to nothing at

1775
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: that point, and if you if you give him a touchdown,

1776
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: like man, we're down three scores, this is gonna be

1777
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: tough the way the offense is playing. But he gets

1778
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: the sack, the place goes ballistic. TJ was here and

1779
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: didn't Sweet kept showing him on TV, and that held

1780
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: him to a fuel. So I'm sixteen nothing and I'm thinking, okay,

1781
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: it's two scores. We gotta get two two point conversions.

1782
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: But you know it's doable. Um. And that that turned

1783
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 1: that turned everything around. Um, And you're right, that was

1784
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 1: the That was the last meaningful uh you know game.

1785
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: The play that I the last meaningful play that I

1786
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 1: remember was in twenty twenty when we were at Detroit

1787
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: for Franksgiving when they went down and they scored, and

1788
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, I mean, I'm the only one in

1789
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: the building basically because there's nobody. There's nobody there. It's

1790
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: me and Tracy Wolfson and a few photogs. I mean,

1791
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: it was weird. And um, I just see him make

1792
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: that play and he could like I leaps up, snags it.

1793
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you always caught him a jungle cat and

1794
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: he just he just leapt up, just snagged it and

1795
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: it took off for the endzone. The thought, well, hot, damn.

1796
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: And he did he did it again. I mean, he

1797
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 1: he did things that normal humans just didn't didn't do

1798
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 1: on a football field. And it was funny because I

1799
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: remember I was asked this in twenty thirteen before I

1800
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: came over to Texas, because obviously at that point JJ

1801
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: was was almost a football guy in this town and

1802
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: a loyal listener. Lamont was like, ah, man, I'm tired

1803
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 1: of listening to this about how good Watt is. Tell

1804
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: me what he does wrong? And I was like, well,

1805
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: kind of everything. And what I meant by it was

1806
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 1: if you look at the number of TFLs and he

1807
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 1: actually he did it the other night against the Buccaneers.

1808
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: It's the same thing he has done. And I always

1809
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 1: remember thinking he at some point's gonna get caught, and

1810
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: he never did. But what he would do was when

1811
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: a line would move a particular way, they would all

1812
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: kind of slide one way or zone block one way.

1813
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 1: Well he would step that way and then go around

1814
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: the other way and guys would with and miss, and

1815
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 1: then he would dart down the line of scrimmage and

1816
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: get a TfL. So I looked up, he's got one

1817
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: hundred ninety one TFLs in his career, and one hundred

1818
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: and seventy two of him in Houston, which in ten years,

1819
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: that means he had seventeen nfls per year, and there

1820
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: a couple of years he didn't play. He had thirty

1821
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 1: nine of them. In two twenty twelve, he had twenty nine.

1822
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: In twenty fourteen he had fifty one quarterback God dang it,

1823
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,879
Speaker 1: he had fifty one quarterback hits in twenty nineteen. Anyways,

1824
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: he would that move that was so incredibly wrong, like,

1825
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do that, and you know who's

1826
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: to blame for that, Wade Phillips. Wade Phillips talked to

1827
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: him when he was a rookie in twenty eleven, midway

1828
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: late through and said, right, listen, go ahead, go for it,

1829
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be this defense. There's other guys that

1830
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: can they'll be able to compensate, and we know what

1831
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: you can do. Take start taking chances. And he did.

1832
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: And because he was playing, he said, I was playing

1833
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: a little too conservatively and thinking too much as a rookie.

1834
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and you're as a rookie, you're going to

1835
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: and then Wade con unlocked the box and it's so

1836
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: fundamentally wrong, and yet it was the perfect thing. And

1837
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: what I loved about those Texans defense at that time

1838
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 1: was JJ could do that, and the guys behind him,

1839
01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: as Wade pointed out, they would react to it. They

1840
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 1: would to account for that. Linebackers might you know, JJ

1841
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: might jump into the B gap on a play like

1842
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: that and the linebacker might have responsibility for the B

1843
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: gap and then c JJ there and then replace him

1844
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 1: in the A gap, and now we're allowed JJ to

1845
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: do it. He had trust and his teammates to be

1846
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: able to do that, which I thought was interesting too.

1847
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:19,600
Speaker 1: But he was fundamentally wrong what he was doing. But

1848
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: yet it was paying off. Oh yeah, it certainly did

1849
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: for j. J Watt. Hopefully we've got a chance to

1850
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,759
Speaker 1: catch up with JJ when he comes back to Houston,

1851
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,719
Speaker 1: spends that one day contracts sounds a one day contract.

1852
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 1: That'll be a lot of fun. There's a lot of

1853
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,759
Speaker 1: fun doing this show. A big thanks to JJ Watt,

1854
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: to Drew Doherty, to dB City, to Royce Freemi at

1855
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: the Frank Francie, to Mark Vanemer, to Nick Cassio and

1856
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: all of you for listening. We'll see you next time

1857
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 1: and as always, Go Texas,