1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: The Sunday Hang is brought to you by Chalk Natural 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Supplements for guys, gals, and nothing in between. Fuel your 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: day at Chalk dot Com. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Bold Reference, and occasionally random. 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 3: The Sunday Hang with Clay and Fuck podcast it starts now, 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: come timing. 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I need to tell you guys about it, but I 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: didn't tell you about before. It's very exciting. At Clay's suggestion, 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: I also have a mustache, just kidding. At Clay's suggestion, 10 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: I just want to see if you go to our 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. I recorded the audiobook of Manufacturing Delusion myself 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: and it will also It is also available for pre 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: order right now. The book comes out in two weeks, 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: my friends, Feb seventeen, two weeks Manufacturing Delusion. I need 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: you guys to not wait. Though it's a little bit 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: like opening weekend at the movies. It's all about that 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: first week, and it's all about the pre orders leading 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: into the first week. The book is awesome. Okay, there's 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: really cool stuff I talked in the beginning about first 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: my first CIA mission, which was to Nigeria, of all places, 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: which you have not heard me talk about much here 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: before on the show or at all. Really I've never 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: talked about on the air before. Some crazy stuff going 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: on over there back in the day. And then I 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: talk about a rock, I talk about Afghanistan, I talk 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: about NYPD Intelligence Division, but more importantly, I talk about 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: how the forces of the left and totalitarianism brainwash you 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: and truly use the tactics of mind control that you 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: would teach to a intelligence officer, that you would use 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: for a cult, that you would use for Stalinist indoctrination camp. 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: They're using some of these tactics and that's what the 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: book is all about. So please go get a copy. 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Great for you, great for your kids. And if you 34 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: want the audio book, audiobook narrated by yours truly, so 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: if you like this voice of mine, you will be 36 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: able to have it all read to you, which I 37 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: think is very, very exciting stuff. Now, Clay, thank you 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: for letting me do the shameless plug. Mister Clay, You're 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, this isn't a mustache question the 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: best Taylor Swift song. I'm just gonna Clay, tell them, 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: tell everyone what you said to me in the break 42 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: about Taylor Swift. 43 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 4: I think she's a modern day version of the Beatles. 44 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 4: And when we come back, and this is gonna be 45 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 4: quite the tease, I will give you my favorite Taylor 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 4: Swift songs. I'll make it even stronger. Argument about the Beatles. 47 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: Sunday Hay with Clay and Buck. 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Clay who now has two things going for him, one 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: a brand new mustache and two thinks Taylor Swift is 50 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: the new Beatles? Do you wish to tell us the greatest. 51 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: Yest hold on? Let me tell you that. But first, 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: serious news we tease. 53 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: That we can't go to see I'm talking your mustache 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: and Taylor Swift. I'm pulling it from the series. You 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: can't pivot my pivot. Okay, go ahead, give us your 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: serious news. So we don't know what happened to Nancy Guthrie. 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: I told you that they were gonna have a press conference. 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: This is the number one story on every newscast. Nancy Guthrie, 59 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: mother of Savannah guh. We have a huge audience in Arizona. 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: She was taken against her will. There is no surveillance video. 61 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: They basically have no idea where she is. The FBI 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: is asking if you have tips on this one eight 63 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: hundred call FBI. The FBI is now involved this is 64 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: in Tucson, Arizona, and basically, no one has any idea 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: what happened to Nancy Guthrie. They believe she was taken 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: against her will and that's it. I mean, it's it's 67 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: a huge mystery. So there's a lot of interest here 68 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: one eight hundred at call FBI, So I wanted to 69 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: make sure. 70 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought maybe we would get info because 71 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 4: they had a press conference schedule, but the press conference 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: was to let us know that basically they knew nothing. 73 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm leaving it to you to how you transition back 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: to Taylor Swift now, because that's a very sad, serious story. 75 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: So I this is all on you, buddy. 76 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: Now I have to pivot back from a serious story 77 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: to the story that By the way, producer Ali, come 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: up here for sec We just talked about Jeffrey Epstein. 79 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 4: We gave a huge take on Jeffrey Epstein, everything related 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: to Epstein. You are telling me that my take on 81 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: Taylor Swift has been considered more controversial, more controversial by 82 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: this audience than everything we said about Jeffrey Epps. If 83 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: you wondered whether the Jeffrey Epstein story is over, you 84 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 4: guys are angry or about my Taylor Swift? Take? Is 85 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: that correct? 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Us? 87 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 5: Ally? 88 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 6: Yes, there is a waterfall of emails on your Taylor 89 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 6: Swift and overall music take coming in, pouring in. 90 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: The people have spoken, and the people are correct. 91 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm about to turn that deluge. What's more than 92 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 4: a deluge? What would be bigger than a deluge? The 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: the cavalcade of emails? I think that's right. I'm about 94 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 4: to turn the delusion into a tsunami. Taylor Swift is 95 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: the Beatles of our time. Buck is totally wrong that 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: twenty or thirty years from now no one will care 97 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 4: Taylor Swift. Bucket Ready, twenty or thirty years from now, 98 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 4: flag this. I hope I'm alive to take my victory lap. 99 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: Twenty or thirty years from now, Taylor Swift will be 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 4: more popular than she is now. Her music, much like 101 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 4: the Beatles, music is going to endure, and she will 102 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 4: be touring much like the Rolling Stones. As long as 103 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 4: she's like Mick Jagger and can still walk out there 104 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: and kick her legs, She's going to be touring until 105 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: she's eighty five or ninety, if she lives that long, 106 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 4: singing all these songs. 107 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: This is a take that's going to go down in history. 108 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: Like whoever said that the internet is going to be 109 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: as important as the fax machine? I mean, this is 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: an all timer for you, Clay all Right, Taylor Swift, 111 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: who you know who people would have said this about, 112 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: like the the icon of teenage girls when we were 113 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: growing up. Oh my gosh, in thirty years, everyone's going 114 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: to be listening to the Backstreets. Oh, the Backstreet Boys 115 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: were huge, the Backstreet Boys in sync, all those boy bands, 116 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: you could even you could even put them all together, 117 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: and and you would have thought, oh my gosh, there's 118 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: such a global phenomenon. No one can no one listens that. 119 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: In fact, not money, You're. 120 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 4: Wrong about this. They sell out tours like crazy. Now 121 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 4: there are fifty year old women right now who are 122 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 4: throwing their radios if they're physical across the room, that 123 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: spent one thousand dollars with their girlfriends to get good 124 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: seats to the Backstreet. 125 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: We do not have a single We do not have 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: a single person. We have millions of people. We have 127 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: a We have like the city the size of Chicago 128 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 1: of listeners right now listening to us. Not a single 129 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: one of them paid a thousand dollars in the last 130 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: year for a Backstreet Boys taking away. Oh talking crazy talk. 131 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 4: I'm saying with her girlfriends, they might have spent two 132 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars each for four of them. 133 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: If you went to. 134 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 4: The Backstreet Boys at buck Sexton right now, get your 135 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 4: phones out on Twitter at Clay Travis too. I want 136 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: you to let me know. I bet there's I bet. 137 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: I need you guys to tell Clay to put the 138 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: whispering angel down and get with reality here for a second. Okay. 139 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is crazy or your wife right, 140 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: because we got them. 141 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: I think it's seventy percent mail if your wife did 142 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 4: or you did Backstreet Boy tickets at buck Sexton at 143 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: Clay Travis all. 144 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: Right, you Asher Mark loves to tell me that I'm wrong, 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: which is why we've been such good friends now for 146 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: over a decade. 147 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 7: Uh. 148 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: He says. The Backstreet Boys have a residency at the 149 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Sphere in Vegas that is selling out every night, and 150 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: it's just you. That's Vegas. 151 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: That's not that's not like it's crazy expensive. They just 152 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: had a tour. They were selling out arenas everywhere all 153 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: these But. 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: When you're talking about something on the scale of the Beatles, Okay, 155 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: which is what you are. This is a this is 156 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: a global cultural musical phenomenon that is timeless and has 157 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: lasted for decades. To say that the Backstreet Boys selling 158 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: out a venue in Vegas, though it does sound kind 159 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: of cool, Actually, I might have to go. I kind 160 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: of want to see the sphere. So maybe, by the way, 161 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: is Carrie there. 162 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: Carrie's gonna spend a thousand dollars on these tickets, which 163 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 4: she when she finds out about it. 164 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: All right, did I ever tell you this that I 165 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: that I hooked a buddy of mine up. You know, 166 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna digress becase we're talking music. I was at 167 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: a birthday party? Was that a birthday party for as? 168 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: My brother? And we went to Atlantic City, which is 169 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: the New York City kid version of Vegas, Baby Vegas. 170 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Last minute. We go to Atlantic City and Clay We're 171 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: at the Borgotta, which I think is the nicest property 172 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: in Atlantic City. We probably have the manager, I'm probably 173 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: the manager of the Borgota probably listens to this show. 174 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: Like we got a lot of a lot of people 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: that you know, run businesses that listen to the show. 176 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: I think it's the nicest in Atlantic City. We're at 177 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: the Borgota and we're at their club. I don't remember 178 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: the name of the club, but their night club there, 179 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you it is. There are tumbleweeds blowing through. 180 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: It is a sad, sad night at the Borgotta at 181 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: like ten o'clock at night, for this birthday night. And 182 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: out of nowhere when I tell you, there was an 183 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: influx of twenty five year old to thirty five year 184 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: old girls, women and and nothing. But I've never seen 185 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: anything like this in my life. I was just like, 186 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: this is we're there. We're a table of guys. We 187 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: had no women with us. We're hoping to meet some ladies. 188 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: By the way, one of my friends met his wife 189 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: this night. We're a table, yeah, and I introduced them. 190 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: We're a table by influx. We are the I was. 191 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: There were some guys there, but we were the only 192 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: straight guys in this nightclub. Pretty much. There are a 193 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: lot of guys, but they were not straight. From my understanding. 194 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: Madonna had just finished a show at like eleven o'clock 195 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: at night. A Madonna show got out and flooded, flooded 196 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: the place with chicks. It was it was incredible. It 197 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: was honestly like Manna from Heaven. I've never because, no dudes, 198 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: because what dude is going on Madonna show? Totally not 199 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: straight dudes. Eight two two eight A two B. 200 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: By the way, plays about to pivot back to like 201 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 4: whether we're the federal government is back open to extend 202 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 4: anybody cared? All right, here's my songs. Bad Blood Love Story, 203 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: you Belong with Me, I Knew You were Trouble and 204 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: Wildest Dreams is my power five in no particular order 205 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: for Taylor Swift others. 206 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: Can you repeat this? Can you repeat this? 207 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: My top five of the modern day beatle Taylor Swift? 208 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: And I'll say this, buck, I think Taylor Swift has 209 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: a more substantial catalog of good songs in the decades 210 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 4: ahead than the Beatles do. All right, you give me 211 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 4: your top five again, just because I want to make 212 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: sure that I don't actually know any of these songs 213 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 4: because no one cares. Go ahead, Bad Blood Love Story, 214 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 4: you Belong with Me, I Knew you were Trouble, and 215 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 4: Wildest Dreams my power five. 216 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: To the only one of those songs that I know 217 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: that you've just mentioned is the number five. So the 218 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: rest of those songs. I don't even know what they are. 219 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: I never heard it. 220 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: I knew you were Trouble, you Belong with Me? Love 221 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 4: Story or bad Blood? Now we got bad Blood. You've 222 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: never heard that song. 223 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: I might hear them if they came on. But Clay 224 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: to speak about these in the same breath as the Beatles, 225 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: I would even say, to speak about this in the 226 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: same breath as like Aerosmith, it's just insane. 227 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 4: Just insane. Two honorable mentions, Shake it off. 228 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: I gotta say, Clay shaves's beard off, he goes mustache, 229 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's like Taylor Swift number 230 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: one fan. Something's happened here. I don't know what's going on. 231 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: Mean, which my wife likes because she says I am 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 4: the mean person in the song. Mean why you got 233 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 4: to be so mean? So that is my top five. 234 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: And then two honorable mentions, And I'm right, And thirty 235 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 4: years from now, if you're still alive, everyone out there listening, 236 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to recognize, you know what, Clay Travis 237 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: nailed this. Taylor Swift is the modern day Beatles, and 238 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 4: she's going to continue to sell out places forever. 239 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is your most wrong take ever, 240 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: because that's going to require some digging. But this is 241 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: definitely like I would I would say that this is 242 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: getting You're getting close to your your craziest Klay Travis 243 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: take on the show. 244 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: A lot of people are going to react to her politics, 245 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: and I am not endorsing that. I think Taylor Swift 246 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: is a moron when it comes to her political knowledge, 247 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 4: but I'm sure the Beatles, by the way, often had 248 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 4: political takes that many people. 249 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lenin was I mean Lenin was a comedy. He 250 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: might as well have been Lenin. He was a Communist. 251 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 4: Doesn't mean they're not still talented guys, But yeah, I 252 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: think Taylor Swift twenty first century the most in the 253 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: twenty first century since two thousand, the biggest star. 254 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm excited that on this and this hour of the 255 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Bucks Exton Show, we can all just 256 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: sit back, relax, and enjoy Clay getting dragged over the 257 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: metaphorical broken glass of this audience for the next forty 258 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: five minutes. They are they are going to come. They're 259 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: coming at. 260 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: What I think is really funny is we've talked about 261 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 4: the save Act. We've talked about Epstein, all these stories. 262 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: Epstein Epstein is the most controversial story in years. Everybody's like, yeah, 263 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: Clay and Buck, you guys nailed that. 264 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 7: Well. 265 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: My take on Taylor Swift is the one that people 266 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: are upset the stuff that people write about you online. 267 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 1: That is the meanest, which I do see sometimes and 268 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm always like, I'll fight them. It makes me sad. 269 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: But the meanest are always the people are mad at 270 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: you over sports, which I find so funny. 271 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: Oh they are. That's why the politics thing doesn't It 272 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 4: doesn't impact me because if you pick a winner of 273 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: Alabama Auburn and it's the other side or Ohio State Michigan, Like, 274 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: politics is small stakes compared to the anger of sports fans. 275 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: They get they get very angry at you. I was like, wow, 276 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: the sports ball very passionate the sports ball fans. 277 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: A lot of emails. I'm in tech. Oh, I don't 278 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: want to read that one. Where are the rest of 279 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 4: all the emails they came in? There's so many different 280 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: text threads. Now for the show, here we go Aaron 281 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: from Milwaukee. Uh see, uh, let's listen to him. 282 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 8: Hey, clan, this is Aaron, a heterosexual male in Minnesota. 283 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 8: Taylor Swift's best song is blank Space, and in second 284 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 8: place would be you Belong with Me. 285 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: All Right, there's a positive Buck vip email Bruce. No 286 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 4: one will remember a Taylor Swift song in ten years. 287 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: You are clearly insane. You must have shaved off your 288 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: brain cells when you shave your beard. Steve says, no 289 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 4: way in any universe is Taylor Swift in the same 290 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: league as the Beatles. She's a pop sensation, but she 291 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: is not not met or the I can read all 292 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: these I can't even keep up. I will say that. 293 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: I will say the number of you that have gone 294 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 4: to see and are going to see the boy bands, 295 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: the Backstreet Boys in particular, Buck, you sign off on this. 296 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 4: There are a lot of people tweeting that either they 297 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 4: or their wives have been going to these and paying 298 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: a lot of money for them. 299 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: Look, that's a pure nostalgia play. And I will tell 300 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: you the you know I would go see. I almost 301 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: got tickets for Carrie and me to go see the 302 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: Goo Goo Dolls because I actually think they're the most 303 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,239 Speaker 1: underrated band of the nineties. I think Google Dolls are fantastic, 304 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: Like they're good songs are just great, great tunes out 305 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: of Buffalo, New York. By the way. Yeah, you know they. 306 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 4: That's where they're going to Rossdale right, Oh that's bush. 307 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: Wow. You just look at this. It's like me talking 308 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: se football baby Gavin ros you just oh Clay the 309 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: nineties called they want their their dignity back. 310 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: Well, Gavin Rossdelle was with Gwen Gwen Stefani, Right, that's 311 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 4: kind of a powered nineties. 312 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: Not Gwyneth Paltrow. That's a different quay. That's right, that's right. 313 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: When Gwen Stefani, Yes, yes, you're you're getting lit up 314 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: on these comments that I'm I'm enjoying every second of it. 315 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: I would just say, I'm right. 316 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: Sometimes you get lit up and you're right. You just 317 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 4: have to take the You just have to take the. 318 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: The the you know. The The great thing about Clay 319 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,119 Speaker 1: is he'll he'll make these He'll he'll take these stances. 320 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: You know. So when he refers to Brittain, uh, when 321 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: when he refers to Mozart as the Britney Spears of 322 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: his time, you know, he doesn't care what you say. 323 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna stand behind that. 324 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Sundays with Clay and Boss. 325 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: David. This is Number d David from Pennsylvania. 326 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: Hit it, please, Dave from Pennsylvania. I just cannot believe Clay. 327 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: Just compare Taylor Sweat with the Beatles. He has no 328 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: clue about music and all no clue. 329 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: My god, Clay, I'm afraid to get on the bad 330 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: side of that guy. He sounds like he's a good 331 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: fella's diner. 332 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make I'm gonna make that my I'm gonna 333 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: make that guy my ringtone. Clay has no idea about music. 334 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: Andrew in New Jersey Triple R Radio, what you got 335 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 4: for us? 336 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 6: E Clay and Bucket's Andrew, listen this thing about Billy 337 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 6: English whatever her name. She says she's on stolen land, 338 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 6: so that means she's in possession of stolen property, so 339 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 6: that means she garnzel correct, I'm just taking a while, 340 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 6: guess the way, great show, guys, take care. 341 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 4: Uh, these emails are great, by the way. 342 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: Also, we're not on stone lands, all right, We're on 343 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: conquered lands. To the victor goes to spoils. 344 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 4: Too bad, Sorry, Jay, says Clay. Either you had one 345 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 4: too many espresso martinis. I'm gonna have a couple of 346 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 4: espresso martinis potentially tonight with my buddy Alexio Wallace in 347 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: Los Angeles, we got dinner, or you have completely lost 348 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: your freaking mind. Taylor cannot even come close to holding 349 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,479 Speaker 4: a candle to the Beatles. I said, she's the twenty 350 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 4: first century version of the Beatles, and we'll have their 351 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: same longevity. And I've tweeted it. If you want to 352 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 4: get in a fight online getting the mentions, it's gonna 353 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 4: be a it's gonna be a mess. Jim and oh, 354 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 4: I'm Tim, and Tucson says, Taylor's more like this guy. 355 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 9: F Hey, guys, this is ten and Tucson. I am 356 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 9: a straight forty seven old guy, and I'll admit I 357 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 9: love Taylor Swift's music. But Clay is a little bit mistaken. 358 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 9: She's not the Beatles of our time. She is the 359 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 9: Elvis of our time because she is a solo performer 360 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 9: backed up by a band, whereas the Beatles were four 361 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 9: guys who were the band together. So there's a difference. 362 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 4: That's an interesting take. But what do you think about 363 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 4: that she's the modern day Elvis. That's not gonna make 364 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 4: you any happier. People out there mad about the Beatles comparison. 365 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: Aren't gonna be like, yeah, you know what, she's more 366 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: like Elvis. I'm not an Elvis guy, so I'm gonna 367 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 4: stay out of this one. Not an Elvis guy. Yeah, 368 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: I know that's Josh. I call balls and strikes here. 369 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: I will not bend the knee to public opinion on 370 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: the music stuff. 371 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: I'm sorry Josh in Ohio. 372 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 7: Gee, Hey, Clay and Buck. I just wanted to say 373 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 7: Clay is wrong and Buck. I think Clay just came 374 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 7: out of the closet because Taylor Swift is a ten 375 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 7: thumbed tone deaf, talentless noise polluter, always has been and 376 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 7: always will be. 377 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 4: Why would I come out of the closet to be 378 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: praising a heterosexual woman. It seems like if I were 379 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 4: in the closet, I'd be like, you know, I don't 380 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: know who's Enrique Iglesias man. Have you seen his hips lately? 381 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: I don't know who's a good looking guy that does music. 382 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: He married Anna Cornicova, I think, right, yeah, I mean 383 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 4: he's yes, that's right. He married Ana Quardakova. I think 384 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: they're actually expecting a child soon, so fourth fourth child. 385 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: I think that kid has got some good Genes Kurt 386 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 4: and Iowa buck h. 387 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: Clay. 388 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 10: I didn't know we spelled gay c l a y 389 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 10: listening to a thirty something about singing breakup songs and 390 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 10: if she's gonna stay with Kelsey, if that's gonna be 391 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 10: the end, there's no more songs, there's no song factory there, 392 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 10: give me a break. 393 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: I need we need to keep the opening of we 394 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: now spell Clay gay Clay. We kind of keep that one. 395 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 4: Roll it over? 396 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: Is this the part of animal House where you've been 397 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: paddled enough that you will no longer say thank you? 398 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 7: Sir? 399 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: May I have another? 400 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 11: Like? 401 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: Are you done? Are you have you taken enough abuse 402 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,959 Speaker 1: on this one? Or do we want to keep the talkbacks? 403 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: Clay are are coming in? Left your mind? 404 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 7: Man? 405 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: I feel like. 406 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 4: These are epic. Jeff and Utah, I he's got good taste. 407 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 11: Hey, guys, I just want to say that Clay Travis 408 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 11: is correct. I am bucks age and my wife is 409 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 11: seven years younger than me. She dragged me to see 410 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 11: the Backstreet Boys during their residency in Las Vegas, and 411 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 11: we also had to go to Comic Con just to 412 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 11: meet two of the Backstreet Boys. There were tons of 413 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 11: people on the line girls in their twenties were still coming. 414 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 4: Did we cut him off of big Big? Backstreet took 415 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 4: him out? A lot of people are saying that their 416 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: wives or girlfriends have spent an embarrassing amount of money 417 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 4: to go see the Backstreet Boys, and some of those 418 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: tickets are going in the Sphere for one thousand dollars buck. 419 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 4: What would you say again? 420 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 1: I think thee A Grand the Sphere is a particularly 421 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: unique venue ever been but I've obviously seen it. Everyone 422 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: who goes to Vegas. You see it if you're in 423 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: that city. Uh So, I think they're benefiting from that 424 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: at some level. But these nostalgia band but here's my 425 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: here's my thesis for you, though, Clay. The nostalgia bands 426 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 1: are so big because there aren't enough good contemporary music 427 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: acts that people want to go see. That's why you're 428 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: having all these I think there's some truth to that. 429 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: I mean, you see the Rolling Stones, I said, like 430 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: they're these guys are practically in their eighties now. I 431 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: mean the Rolling Stones come out on stage, you know 432 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: you're wondering if they need to keep catheters nearby and 433 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: one of those like electrodes for your chest and everything else. 434 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are old. They might as well 435 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: be walking out there with nineteen elevens on their hips. 436 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: Buck going after the gun guys. 437 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: I just I just love because some of them gets 438 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: so bad at you. I'm like, that's right, that's right. 439 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: They're like you with your little tiny hands in your clock. Yeah, 440 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: I got small hands. What can you do? Uh that? 441 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 4: Uh? 442 00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: No? 443 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 4: I mean, I do think there is an argument that 444 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 4: couple of things. One, the superstar impact is such that 445 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 4: if you're Morgan Wallen or your Taylor Swift, the impact 446 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 4: of being able to sell out stadiums and be a 447 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 4: modern musician, you're more famous maybe than in the past, 448 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 4: because I don't think selling out stadiums used to happen. 449 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: But on the flip side, I think there is a 450 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 4: dearth of really popular modern day musicians. I think since 451 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 4: I'm not enough of a music person. But I think synthesizing, 452 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: not needing bands, the rapidity with which music can be created, 453 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: and the lack of effort that is required to create 454 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 4: a hit, I think it's led to a lot of 455 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 4: slop and the enduring power of music is to evoke 456 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: reactions for decades, which is what Taylor Swift's gonna be 457 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: doing as a modern day beatle. 458 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: I again, I think it's great, you know. I actually 459 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: I know what I think the most the best comparison 460 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift would be. Now I'm not saying there's 461 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: it's im allure artist, but in terms of their place, 462 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: I would be Madonna in the eighties. For young Madonna 463 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: was huge among among women in the eighties. It kind 464 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: of transitioned a bit to being Madonna very popular among 465 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community as we got older, as well as 466 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: girls you know or you know, younger girls. But Madonna 467 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: was an icon in the eighties, and you really don't 468 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: hear Madonna songs anymore. So that's my That's where that's 469 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: where I would come down on this one. And we 470 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: did have the conversation before not to take this into 471 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: a kind of a rough direction, but I think that 472 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: I just just my sense of the atmospherics on this. 473 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: I could be wrong, and I get it. I feel 474 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: the same way, and I know people also sometimes feel 475 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: very passionate about this. Michael Jackson, I think was the 476 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: pop Music Catalog one of the greatest pop music pop 477 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: music catalogs in all maybe the greatest pop music catalog 478 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: in history, but one of the greatest, to be sure, 479 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: pop music. I'm saying, and people don't really listen to 480 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. It's less and less you hear it, you know, 481 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: it used to be just like the safe choice. Any party, anywhere, 482 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: any store, anywhere in the world, something could put on 483 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and everybody liked it. I think you hear 484 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot less Michael Jackson. 485 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 4: Now that's interesting. I don't know what ties them together. 486 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: By the way, do you know who owned the Beatles catalog? 487 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. 488 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: Yes, and one of the ways that his estate became 489 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 4: so Paul McCartney was kicked off about that, by the way, 490 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 4: big time. But Michael Jackson was such an astute businessman 491 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 4: or the people around him were, that he had the 492 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 4: Beatles catalog, and then he compared it with the Michael 493 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 4: Jackson catalog. And that's interesting. I still hear I feel 494 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 4: like Michael Jackson a lot. But I'm kind of thinking 495 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 4: through it. Have the plays of Michael Jackson songs, and 496 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 4: certainly people are going to say, well, that's partly connected 497 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: to the overall crisis of I'm gonna tell you it 498 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: was super popular DA the data, I will admit taking 499 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 4: an l on this one. 500 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: Interesting. Radio airplay has dropped considerably. You don't hear it 501 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: just on the radio anymore, but streaming way up in 502 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: the last few years. I'm wrong on that. On Michael 503 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: Jackson songs, I'm you don't find that surprise when from 504 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: four point seven billion in twenty twenty one to six 505 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: point five billion in twenty twenty three, I mean, really. 506 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 4: Up, I'm not surprised by it because my wife loves 507 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson, and she got our kids all as big 508 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson fans too, So in the Travis Family playlist, 509 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: Michael Jackson is still popular, and so I'm not surprised. 510 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 4: I did wonder what the impact of the allegations against 511 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: him were, but I think he's so popular and his 512 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 4: songs were so talented that a lot of people just 513 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: say he was never convicted of anything, and he is 514 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: the nineteen eighties. I'm fair to say the most popular 515 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: artist of the nineteen eighties. I don't think even there's 516 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 4: a close second. 517 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: You could argue, yeah, I mean I would I would 518 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: think so, Yeah, I would think so for sure. 519 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 4: The production staff is overwhelmed by the tsunami of reactions 520 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 4: that are pouring in from so many different of you, 521 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 4: many of them very funny, including uh, let's see this 522 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 4: one from I want to make sure I get it Jay. 523 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 4: This is I'm told, very funny. Hit it with. 524 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 5: Dave from Carrie, North Carolina. And I just want to 525 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 5: ask Clay if he had a choice between going to 526 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 5: a Taylor Swift concert or spending an evening with Bill illusion, 527 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 5: which would he take? 528 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, Bye, I would combine them. 529 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: I would take Bill Milugin to the Taylor Swift concert. 530 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 4: Why would I pick one or the other? Can you imagine? 531 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: I think Bill Malugin is married. I'm not sure that 532 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: there is a more fertile opportunity to meet young attractive women. 533 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 4: You were talking about Buck, when you went and Donna 534 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: had the concert in Atlantic City and you're with your brother, 535 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: I bet if you are a single guy. And I 536 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 4: just remember seeing all the girls walking around downtown Nashville 537 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 4: when Taylor Swift had the multiple studio shows. It is 538 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 4: ninety percent young women in that in that stadium. I'm 539 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 4: not sure there's a more fertile environment, literally a fertile 540 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 4: environment for a single guy than the Taylor Swift concert counterpoint. 541 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: All those young ladies are listening to songs about how 542 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: bad the ex boyfriends were, and there's like a weird 543 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: girl power vibe to all this Taylor Swift stuff. It's 544 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: all about her breakups. You don't think that. 545 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: The entire purpose of Taylor Swift's professional career is to 546 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 4: find the right guy. And it's just a tumultuous, sordid 547 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 4: what you know, walk to try to find the right guy. 548 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: There's something there's something about you doing analysis of Taylor 549 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: Swift's whole career, and about young women walking around now 550 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: ash Field. They'll look at the right guy with this 551 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: mustache that you have. No just it's just perfect. I 552 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: can't explain it. Do more Tailor Swift analysis with your mustache, 553 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: but I just love it. 554 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: I the mustache is going to break in on TV soon, 555 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: and I don't know that the TV audience is prepared 556 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: for this.