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Speaker 1: Here we go our two, ready to roll. Matt Hasselback

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Speaker 1: five minutes.

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Speaker 3: We're live.

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Speaker 1: We're in Chicago, a city that wins NFL playoff.

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Speaker 3: Games, at least now they do. It was crazy weekend.

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Speaker 1: You know, the NBA is very star reliant, and baseball

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Speaker 1: can be franchise reliant. The NBA sells teams. You put

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Speaker 1: the Niners and Eagles out there. I don't even have

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Speaker 1: to like Hertz or sirih Yanni and Rock Perty doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be a superstar.

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Speaker 3: And it's just like, pulls me in. Pulls me.

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Speaker 1: Bears can be terrible forever the minute they're good, pulls

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Speaker 1: me in. When you sell teams and product over individual

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Speaker 1: franchises and markets and star quarterbars, star NBA players, it's

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Speaker 1: amazing that you don't have these massive dips in popularity

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Speaker 1: and ratings. Just a remarkable weekend. Here we go Colin right,

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Speaker 1: Colin wrong, and a.

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Speaker 2: Monday where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I said it in October, Kyle Shanahan was my

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Speaker 1: coach of the Year and he and Salo were my

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Speaker 1: staff of the year. Mac Jones started eight games, no

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Speaker 1: Kittle for a while, Trent Williams, Bosa, Fred Warner, all

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Speaker 1: sorts of injuries. They still end up with the top

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Speaker 1: ten offense thirteen and five. He and Sala put on

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Speaker 1: a clinic Philadelphia forced into multiple three and outs. I

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Speaker 1: mean they held the Eagles with that Bondo duct tape

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Speaker 1: defense in San Francisco to four point three yards per play.

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Speaker 2: That is coaching where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Bills, despite being completely riot reliant on one player,

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Speaker 1: beat the Jags and keep winning. I don't love their

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Speaker 1: wide receiver group. Special teams now due to injuries, are shaky.

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Speaker 1: The defense has kind of mid. I don't even always

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Speaker 1: loved their head coach. But fourth team ever to win

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Speaker 1: and there's just nothing on the market like Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Ninety percent of that was Josh Allen. I kept asking

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Speaker 1: all week how are the Jags underdogs? And then I

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Speaker 1: watched the game and went, oh, yeah, yeah, Josh Allen, That's.

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Speaker 2: Why where Colin was right, Nick.

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Speaker 1: Seriani, I've always thought his winning is a reflection of

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Speaker 1: the roster and the GM, not coaching acumen. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of different ways to win in some of its

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Speaker 1: roster construction. He's arguing with aj Brown, don't love that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just I look at this team and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't call plays. I'm tall, all these great at

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Speaker 1: managing egos, but that's not what I keep seeing. And

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Speaker 1: I mean I understand that Jalen Hurts can struggle to

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Speaker 1: see over the line, like I get it, But there's

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Speaker 1: just too much talent here to score nine points a

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Speaker 1: game this year in the second half. There's too much

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Speaker 1: feels completely offensive coordinator reliant.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 3: I'm a Justin Herbert defender.

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Speaker 1: But two fumbles, three points, seventy four passer rating. Listen,

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Speaker 1: he's played twelve playoff quarters. Ten have been suboptimal. Now

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Speaker 1: he's had a couple of bad coaches and now he's

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Speaker 1: got an atrocious offensive line and Peyton Manning went oh

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Speaker 1: for his first three. I didn't like the Chargers in

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Speaker 1: this game with points or winning. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: you can win with that kind of offensive line. But

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Speaker 1: much as I defend him, some of it's on him.

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Kevin Stefanski, I said, go ahead, Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: fire him. He's going to be a top candidate. He's

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Speaker 1: He's an IVY League guy, two time coach of the Year,

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Speaker 1: I've always thought he gets the most out of his players.

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Speaker 1: Somebody told me this year's ago, if you fire somebody,

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Speaker 1: I guess it happened, but that one caught me off guard.

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Speaker 3: So I was wrong on that one.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I predicted Miami in Indiana would end up in

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened. So I think Miami matches

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Speaker 1: But Miami Indiana is what I thought would happen, where

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Speaker 1: Colin was right. Finally, I've been saying this for two years.

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Speaker 1: If a car dealer or a bourbon distributor is your

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Speaker 1: number one booster in ANIL, you are not beating the

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Speaker 1: So thank god for Texas Oil money or I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the SEC would be, but our third strate

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Speaker 1: even worse than that. If you start looking at the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years in the playoff, who the SE

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Colin Wright, Colin wrong on a Monday, And with that,

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck stops buy and joins us. Eighteen years in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, So a lot of times I'll ask you

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Speaker 1: weird how uneven the Bears offense can be.

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Speaker 3: Is there secret.

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Speaker 1: Sauce beyond just Caleb kind of being really talented? Why

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Speaker 1: are they so good playing from behind? It's almost as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I heard you today say that the popes

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Speaker 4: thing that I've heard that makes sense. No, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think some of its playground ball. Both these quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: are really good at playground ball. That's what I always

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Speaker 4: felt like, two minutes it was time to take chances.

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Speaker 4: You know, stuff I wouldn't normally do in a zero

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Speaker 4: that in the fourth quarter. I'm going to do that

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Speaker 4: on fourth down, third down, two minutes like that's you know,

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Speaker 4: it's some of its personality that way as a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Some of it's that, But I also think it's a mindset.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I talked to you earlier about Ben Jonson.

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Speaker 4: He's a great play caller, cool trick plays. That doesn't

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Speaker 4: mean you're going to be a great head coach, vision setter,

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Speaker 4: culture setter. You know, the DNA of our team. And

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Speaker 4: then you go back to you know, basically August training camp.

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Speaker 5: He calls the team together.

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Speaker 4: And as a team meeting, and he shows the video

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Speaker 4: of twenty eight to three Patriots versus the Falcons. Hey,

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Speaker 4: I recognize we've got a guy on our team on

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Speaker 4: one was on the Patriots and one was on the Falcons.

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Speaker 5: Let me hear from you. Let's talk about this moment.

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Speaker 4: Let's be a teachable moment in August that I think

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Speaker 4: This mindset that doesn't matter what the scoreboard says. It's

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Speaker 4: of the game. And that's how this team plays. They

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Speaker 4: play like they're unfazed. They don't flinch. Ben Johnson when

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Speaker 4: you look at him on the sidelines, he's not a

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Speaker 4: roller coaster of emotions. He's a steady hand. So I

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Speaker 4: just think the Bears hit a home run, maybe a

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Speaker 5: It works.

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Speaker 4: This young quarterback has improved every single week, and I

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Speaker 4: think that's the mental toughness that it takes to come

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Speaker 1: It feels like so everybody's down on Matt Lafleur and

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Speaker 1: my take as folks. They had fav and Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: for thirty one years and got to three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: A it's hard. It's hard to win this time of

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Speaker 1: I'll pay for both salaries. They don't get free agents

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Speaker 1: third year in a row, Matt. They're the youngest team

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Speaker 1: given a choice don't always choose Green Bay. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a good coach. I also think the NFC the

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Speaker 1: I think it's really good. I think MAT's a good coach.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the meltdown, what do you see?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he's a great coach.

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Speaker 4: I think fundamentals probably slipped a little bit this year,

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Speaker 5: Probably something that's true.

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Speaker 4: But you know, they're a field goal or an extra

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Speaker 4: point away from continuing on, you know, playing right now.

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Speaker 4: I think if you're that team, you look in the mirror,

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Speaker 4: you lock la floor up, which I think they've done,

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Speaker 4: and then I think you do everything in your to

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Speaker 4: keep Jeff Hafley. Jeff Haffley was the head coach of

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Speaker 4: Boston College and just kind of like late in the

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Speaker 4: and that's coach. I'm kind of like a just a

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Speaker 4: you know, a CEO. I want to be in there

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Speaker 4: with the guys coaching. And that's why he jumped ship

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Speaker 4: late to go to Green Bay and you know, coach again.

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Speaker 5: You see what he's done.

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Speaker 4: So give him a healthy Micah Parsons with an offseason,

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Speaker 4: and I think this team can be right back in it.

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Speaker 4: But Halflee, you know, he might say, I'll be a

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Speaker 4: head coach of a pro team. There's nine il and

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Speaker 4: all that craziness transfer portal. But if they can keep

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Speaker 4: got a great thing going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so do I listen. I think what San Francisco

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Speaker 1: Once Kittle got hurt, I'm like, oh, they were playing

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Speaker 4: And so Kyle Shanahan, it's not so much what you

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Speaker 5: Because they like to repeat plays.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not saying Jalen is pushing that at all,

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, Buffalo is it's just crazy. I asked all week,

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Speaker 2: You do you.

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Speaker 5: Stat Like, Josh Allen's the MVP. He is that guy.

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Speaker 4: He can put a cape on and carry his team.

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Speaker 4: But it's also because he's sparring for a little bit,

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Speaker 5: No Lamar, no Burrow, no Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: In the playoffs, Like, this is your opportunity to throw

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Speaker 5: This is your opportunity.

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Speaker 1: I want to put up the playoff picture so the

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Speaker 1: I think Seattle Niners the world loves Seattle, and I

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Speaker 4: I think it's a real game, but I'm not I'm

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Speaker 5: I've seen them like they're they're breaking a sweat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Rams, but the Bears Rams are healthy. Bears loft

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Speaker 3: Like I don't think Buffalo needed rest.

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Speaker 1: I think that was a great, great win and gives

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Speaker 1: them some jet fuel into Denver. Would you worry about

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Speaker 1: the Broncos having a week off.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I worry about the Broncos having a

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Speaker 4: week off, and you know, the Broncos lost to the

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Speaker 4: Bills last year in a similar situation like this, So

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Speaker 4: you know, I think there's you know, you don't have

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Speaker 4: to worry again, like about these guys like not taking

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Speaker 4: it seriously, not making it there all, like this is

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Speaker 4: their super Bowl in a sense, like they've got this

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Speaker 4: mindset of like want to know this week, play every

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Speaker 4: play like at your last. This game could be our last.

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Speaker 4: I think Sean Payton will have them ready this you

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Speaker 4: know that way for me, if I was the quarterback,

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Speaker 4: if I was Josh Allen, I know I got to

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Speaker 4: go up against Vance Joseph, and of all the guys

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Speaker 4: that I've ever gone up against, like Vance Joseph's got

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Speaker 4: to be somewhere on the podium. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: he's a bronze, silver, gold medalist, but the study time

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Speaker 4: that it takes to go through his defenses and his

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Speaker 4: disguise schemes and all that kind of stuff, it's something.

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Speaker 4: And now he's got guys that can just rush the

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Speaker 4: passer without any help of a blitz. That's a challenge.

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Speaker 4: That's a challenge. I think I think Denver's got a

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Speaker 4: better team than people realize. But again, this is one

460
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Speaker 4: of those things where Josh Allen is that quarterback that

461
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Speaker 4: can go above the x's and o's without the other

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Speaker 4: superstars Mahomes, Lamar Burrow. They're not in the AFC this year.

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Speaker 4: This might be your best chance, Buffalo, like, go do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you like tonight? Steelers Texans?

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Speaker 5: It's a really tough one.

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Speaker 4: I think if the Steelers don't try to play the

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Speaker 4: game an empty back like they love to be an

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Speaker 4: empty Aaron Rodgers in Shotgun, like it's ten years ago

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Speaker 4: in Green Bay. If they don't do that, then then

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Speaker 4: I like the Steelers. But if they want to just

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Speaker 4: kind of play like they've always played, like oh Aaron

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Speaker 4: and DK and this and that, I think the Houston

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Speaker 4: Texans defense is really spectacular and they got to do

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Speaker 4: it a different way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Pittsburgh has a weird way of in these games

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Speaker 1: where you're like, I'm not sure they can generate enough offense.

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Speaker 1: They find out a way to get turnovers short field.

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Speaker 1: Tomlins teams always do this when you're really He's always

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Speaker 1: been a great underdog coach, and all of the sudden

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Speaker 1: the ball is tipped and TJ. Watts running down the field,

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Speaker 1: You're like, I mean, cause my old takeaway is can

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Speaker 1: they generate fourteen points? But they always figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to do it. That's kind of that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh way, is it not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's worked for them for a long time.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I just think that at some point Aaron Rodgers has

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Speaker 4: to kind of and maybe he's already done that. He's

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Speaker 4: got to change the way he's played in terms of

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Speaker 4: again just going more point guard and that can meet

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Speaker 4: using the running backs more okay, but less shooting forward.

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Speaker 5: We don't need the you know, I would.

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Speaker 4: I would just say it sort of that way, like

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Speaker 4: make the people around you better.

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Speaker 5: And I think he's got the ability to do that.

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Speaker 4: But the speed and the physicality and the pass rush

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Speaker 4: of this Houston Texans team with Hunter and Anderson like there,

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Speaker 4: I don't care how good of a thrower you are,

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Speaker 4: it won't matter if if you don't have time to throw.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Mike Tomlin twenty three and five on Monday Night.

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Speaker 1: So there is a magic too, But no question, Matt

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Speaker 3: Were not throwing any shade.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots away Drake made didn't played great game, was choppy.

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Speaker 1: New England's the better team. I still contend the Patriots

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Speaker 1: are a draft away. I think Will Campbell coming back

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Speaker 1: at left tackle helps a lot. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: have said, hey, Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert, Colin, what do

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Speaker 1: you got to say in My takeaway is Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: through three playoff games, his numbers are actually slightly better

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Speaker 1: than Peyton Manning through three playoff games.

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Speaker 3: He threw the ball.

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Speaker 1: He threw a fastball to Keenan Allen underneath. He needed

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Speaker 1: to have a little tempo on that. He had opportunities

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Speaker 1: in the game, but he had two bad coaches to start,

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Speaker 1: and now he's got an awful offensive line. Everybody loved

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Speaker 1: the Chargers and the points. I kept saying, guys, you

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Speaker 1: can't have the thirty second best offensive line. It's bad

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Speaker 1: in pass pro run blocking, and your Hampton plays a

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Speaker 1: play and he's out, like they just don't have enough

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Speaker 1: players for the record. You want to know another quarterback

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Speaker 1: the last two years who have regressed badly, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Why his own line stinks. It's the one thing. Maybe

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Speaker 1: josh Allen is immune to it. Patrick Mahomes has been

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Speaker 1: blown out twice in Super Bowls, not because Tyreek Hill left.

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Speaker 1: He won those because his offensive line was bad. So

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Speaker 1: sixty five percent of the rushing yards last night, Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: they just can't stay healthy, and all their injuries seem

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Speaker 1: to be offensive line and running back, so where they're

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Speaker 1: thin to begin with. So I mean, I Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: is two things. A quarterback and this year of Pinata

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Speaker 1: and so I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know what you do.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't touch the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Everybody liked him, and I said, I love their kicker,

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Speaker 1: I love their coach, I love Justin's toughness. But this

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Speaker 1: offense is not good enough to win playoff games on

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Speaker 1: the road against a really good New England team. So

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes the last two years, everybody's like he's not

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Speaker 1: the same.

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Speaker 3: Well, why would that be.

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Speaker 1: It's his offensive line in pass pro and for the record,

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Speaker 1: mahomes lack of a run game. You can't put every

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Speaker 1: you know. Everybody said, well, Josh Allen, what does he have?

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Speaker 1: A Pro Bowl left tackle, James Cocinn, excellent tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't love the Buffalo roster. They have a

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Speaker 1: great slot, a couple of good tight ends, starback, Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl left tackle.

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Speaker 3: That that is.

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Speaker 1: The Bill Walsh Niners compared to what Justin Herbert's working

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Speaker 1: with right now.

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Speaker 3: J Mack with the.

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Speaker 2: News, this is the herd Line news.

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Speaker 6: I was, We're in lockstep on that one. Colin one,

568
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Speaker 6: we were in lockstep with it. Whift was that Niners

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Speaker 6: Eagles game? Holy cow, Listen, I was torn, man. I

570
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Speaker 6: loved the Eagles a lot, but you know, my guy

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Speaker 6: is brock perty and listen, Colin, it's time. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: we got to have a discussion about the most underrated

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Speaker 6: quarterback in the NFL, Brock Perty, who was sending sacio

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Speaker 6: now as they like.

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Speaker 7: To say in soccer. I mean, listen.

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Speaker 6: I know he threw two picks, but Perty was excellent

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Speaker 6: except on the block here. He wanted no part of that.

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Speaker 6: On the Juwan Jennings throw, I mean, if you want

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Speaker 6: to replay, it's hilarious. He's just like, I'm not getting

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Speaker 6: in front of that three hundred pounder anyway. Jennings talked

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Speaker 6: about going up against Seattle this week, a tall order.

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Speaker 2: I was ready.

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Speaker 4: I was ready to cite it and just to see

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Speaker 4: Christian you know, pop up open there late.

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Speaker 5: I had to damn a chance and I didn't even

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Speaker 5: see the ball man. But great hands by two three man,

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Speaker 5: great hands. Do you know who you're playing next week?

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Speaker 5: I think, Wow, I guess. I hope it's Seattle.

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Speaker 3: It is Seattle.

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Speaker 5: Let's go, let's go. I can't wait. That's what we wanted.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you. I'll defend party interceptions.

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Speaker 3: Don't drive me crazy.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is when I needed I think we

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Speaker 1: have the audio of it. When they needed a great play,

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Speaker 1: and when the forty nine ers needed a great drive,

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Speaker 1: pretty delivered again. Defense is trying to one of the picks.

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Speaker 1: The first really bad. The second one, you know it's

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Speaker 1: single coverage defender stepped.

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Speaker 7: In fall Pro decender quin On Mitchell Yah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Also windy on the road for the record, a muddy

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Speaker 1: pocket most of the night. He didn't have a ton

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Speaker 1: of time to throw. Jalen Hurts is the guy that

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Speaker 1: had time to throw. So I will defend Perty. I

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Speaker 1: thought that first drive, and I also defend him on

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Speaker 1: not blocking on that trick play. You're out of your mind.

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Speaker 6: Get him out of there, vis I mean he was

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Speaker 6: coming at him like a freight train. By the way,

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Speaker 6: did you see him in the first highlight?

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Speaker 2: Who he threw to?

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Speaker 6: Number five? I'm not kidding, Colin. I'm watching the game

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, five, Who the hell is that? Juwan

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Speaker 6: Jennings is fifteen. Jomarcus Robinson, the guy didn't have a

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Speaker 6: fifty yard game all season. He caught six for a

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Speaker 6: buck eleven. That's Shanahan trusting and Perty trusting. I mean

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Speaker 6: Robinson beat Mitchell, the All Pro on a slant in

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Speaker 6: the end zone.

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Speaker 7: Did you see that?

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Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 6: I'm like, what's happening here? I will say this a note. Listen,

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Speaker 6: reporters are good. We'll give him their props when they miss,

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Speaker 6: We'll do that too. Josina Anderson had a good note

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Speaker 6: just now. Colin forty nine Ers arrived home two am

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Speaker 6: Monday morning. Okay, obviously they're gonna get a late start today.

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Speaker 6: No kiddle, they play on Saturday. The leak kind of

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Speaker 6: did them dirty. Seattle has extra time. Niners have to

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Speaker 6: play on Saturday after getting home at two in the

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Speaker 6: morning from a Sunday game.

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news, you've already played Seattle twice. Everybody

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Speaker 1: in that building knows what Seattle is. Seattle means why

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Speaker 1: everybody goes, Oh, Seattle is well rested. I don't want

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Speaker 1: my young red hot team to be that rested. I

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Speaker 1: also think Seattle is a prohibited favorite. Could come in

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Speaker 1: and be very cautious, could come in with kind of

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Speaker 1: a hey, guys, let's not take you know, let's not

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Speaker 1: beat ourselves here. I think the Niners will account for themselves. Well,

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Speaker 1: I do think over the course of four hours, Seattle

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Speaker 1: at home just keeps bringing waves of speed athleticism and

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Speaker 1: length and power.

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Speaker 6: One of the funniest notes my buddy sent me was

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Speaker 6: Juwan Jennings, right, the guy who threw the touchdown pass.

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Speaker 7: He threw one in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: He was nearly the MVP in that game against the

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Speaker 6: Chiefs that they lost in overtime. Juwan Jennings was like

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Speaker 6: higher ranked high school quarterback than Joe Burrow coming out

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Speaker 6: of high school. Like that's how good Jittings is.

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Speaker 3: So out to him.

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Speaker 7: I love this Signers team. I'm going to root for them,

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Speaker 7: but Collin, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't see how you can make a case for them

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Speaker 6: against Seattle.

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Speaker 7: Maybe maybe first quarter. I don't know if first that

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Speaker 7: first quarter they'll have some juice, But after that, bro,

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of Eagles diners, our guy Tom Brady, who.

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Speaker 6: I think is joining the show again this week, he

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Speaker 6: had a really good moment in the booth about quarterbacks

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Speaker 6: throwing through windy weather.

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Speaker 7: Check us out.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So when you see it, and I talked about

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Speaker 8: the point of the ball a lot, you see it

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Speaker 8: from well, I'll started mis agle.

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Speaker 7: This is kind of like.

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Speaker 2: A neutral plane.

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Speaker 8: This isn't the poise slightly down when you're throwing into

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Speaker 8: the wind, it has to be neutral. If the point

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Speaker 8: of the ball is up, any wind friction is going

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Speaker 8: to push that.

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Speaker 3: Bottle up over the top. So as a.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback, you don't really like that you throw underneath because

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Speaker 8: naturally that's going to point the tip of the ball up.

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Speaker 8: You'd like more of a sea or an inverse, a

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Speaker 8: reverse seat. That's how you kind of control the point

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Speaker 8: of the ball and then you can kind of just snap.

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Speaker 2: It off as you throw it.

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Speaker 8: But in these windy conditions, you can't be underneath the ball.

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Speaker 8: There's too much wind and wind surface the ball to

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Speaker 8: knock it off its pal.

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you that was a signs lesson I

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Speaker 2: didn't go I needed well done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I could have taken that course in

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Speaker 1: college instead of biology.

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Speaker 3: That was interesting.

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Speaker 6: You think the Eagles offensive coordinator even knew that. I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 6: I'm so sick kept here.

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Speaker 1: It was funny in Philadelphia. They kept showing the flags

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Speaker 1: YEA and Party would make a throw and I'm like,

688
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Speaker 1: because twice AJ Brown went down the field and it

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Speaker 1: was like a center fielder who lost it in the sun,

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Speaker 1: Like he couldn't track the ball and perty made a

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Speaker 1: couple of massive throws.

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Speaker 6: I thought he couldn't throw it when the weather was

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Speaker 6: implement I thought he had issues at that.

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Speaker 1: Rady also had a great line when the Blue Tent

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Speaker 1: came up. He's like, folks, you've just seen everything in

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Speaker 1: the blue Tent's there's not much there.

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Speaker 3: It's a table at a blue tent.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, let's go to the final story, and

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Speaker 6: that's the Bears comeback against the Packers.

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Speaker 7: Scintillating stuff Saturday night.

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Speaker 6: I know you were like six beers deep, just going

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Speaker 6: crazy Colston Loveland and company. Afterward, Listen, man, I got

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Speaker 6: to give Ben Johnson his flowers.

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Speaker 7: He talks this and backs it up.

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Speaker 6: He had that handshake at midfield with the floor basically

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Speaker 6: a big middle finger right to the guy's face.

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Speaker 7: And then afterwards, Uh, area is in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, we don't see the extroent emotion from you at

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Speaker 1: the buzzard as we did today.

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Speaker 3: It's just the guys the obvious of what the playoff

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Speaker 3: gate with.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, there's there's probably a little bit more noise

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Speaker 6: coming out of there building up north.

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Speaker 5: Uh to start the week, which we heard loud and clear.

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Speaker 5: UH players and coaches alike.

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Speaker 3: So this one meant something to us.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, bulletin board material.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things this, this always irritates me

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Speaker 1: about my profession, the media, our profession.

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Speaker 3: Folks like the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: People trained four years and then they win a race

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Speaker 1: or lose a race, and we jam a microphone in

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Speaker 1: their face. The reality is, you used to not get

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Speaker 1: cameras in locker rooms.

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Speaker 3: Now we do.

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Speaker 1: So don't judge what players and coaches are doing in

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Speaker 1: their space. When I got my first job out of college,

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Speaker 1: I got a job doing a trip a baseball team

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Speaker 1: play by play, and there was a sign no media,

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Speaker 1: and there was a certain area blocker rum where guys

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Speaker 1: got banned AI and they had dirty jokes and they

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Speaker 1: played music and blah blah blah, and the language was profane.

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Speaker 3: And I always.

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Speaker 1: Remember that no media allowed. So now we get all

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Speaker 1: this video all over the place. You're dealing with young men.

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Speaker 1: They commit their lives to it. They're rarely home, they're

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Speaker 1: taking a beating. It's Saturday night. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: same kind of language you hear is what you're hearing

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Speaker 1: in the stands from seventy thousand people they're going. The

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Speaker 1: city of Chicago was nuts, I mean were everybody was

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Speaker 1: walking around with an open container, drinking and partying a

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Speaker 1: Saturday night in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Was Marty Graws.

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Speaker 1: So again, I don't love the language you used, but

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Speaker 1: it's like, we have to understand the commitment, the time,

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Speaker 1: the energy, and if sometimes a coach is a little

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Speaker 1: over the top or player.

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Speaker 3: We'ren't visitors, Hey, we're observers.

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Speaker 2: We're not in this battle.

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Speaker 1: We have to understand the emotional state these guys are in.

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00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: After W's the Bears have been losing this franchise forever.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, remember Aaron Rodgers famously said they own He owned

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Speaker 6: the Bears.

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Speaker 7: But so in the locker.

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Speaker 6: Room, there's a video of him saying, bleep the Packers.

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Speaker 6: We can't show that, obviously, But earlier in the week

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Speaker 6: what irked him was the Packers players are like, oh,

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Speaker 6: we can't play wait to play the Bears. Well, obviously,

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00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 6: they never trailed the Bears the whole season, in the

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Speaker 6: two matches, never trailed at all, and they were dominating

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Speaker 6: this game. But Caleb Williams is the moving mountains and

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Speaker 6: that fourth down throw is gonna I mean, honestly, if

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Speaker 6: you're looking at the all time great plays in Bears history,

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Speaker 6: that Caleb Williams touchdown pass is up there. And here's

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Speaker 6: some Bears quarterbacks with two wins versus the Packers. Caleb

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Speaker 6: joins the elite company Jim Harbaugh and Jim McMahon. Jim McMahon,

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Speaker 6: the Funky QB love that guy back in the day,

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Speaker 6: Listen man, not Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Is even Sid Luckman couldn't do it? Johnny Lujack? Or

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Speaker 1: was that Red Rex Grossman? Jake Cuttler? Where are those guys?

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Speaker 2: But Colin?

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Speaker 7: Do they have a chance against the Rams?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: I would feel much better if they didn't lose their

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Speaker 1: left tackle. That they can lose a linebacker that worries me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jared Ver's probably excited to be going against the backup.

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Speaker 1: If Sunday Night, by the way, I'm not sure I

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Speaker 1: would root for crappy weather Sunday night that helps the Bears.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, have you checked the weather? It's probably gonna be

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Speaker 7: balmy in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Right, forty forty What is it gonna be about forty

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Speaker 1: ish fourteen or forty fourteen?

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Speaker 2: I won.

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Speaker 3: J mckle the news, Well.

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Speaker 2: That's the news and Thanks for stopping by The Herd

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Speaker 1: I mean, just think about this weekend, all of us.

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Speaker 1: Everybody kind of thought summarily, Rams will handle the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: know they had to come from behind the win. Well, listen,

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Speaker 1: Packers have been here before. The good times are over

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Speaker 1: for the Bears. And then they weren't. I thought JAG's

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00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: are the better team. I've seen it all year, and

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Speaker 1: then there was Josh Allen and so I mean you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Philadelphia was a five point favorite. Five's my

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Speaker 1: magic number. Get to five, take the favorite. So this

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Speaker 1: is what is so great about the NFL. You just

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Speaker 1: don't know. And I think Buffalo is one of those

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Speaker 1: teams where I mean twelve for twelve to his favorite receiver.

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Speaker 1: But I don't love Buffalo's defensive talent. I love their

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Speaker 1: left tackle, running back, tight end Josh Allen. I think

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Speaker 1: they're offensive talent. They've hit on some good guys. If

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Speaker 1: Keon Coleman wasn't a bust, would really like their talent.

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Speaker 1: They don't really have a dominant number one, but they're

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Speaker 1: a hard team to gauge because you just have the

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Speaker 1: ultimate wild card, which is Josh Allen. Here's Matt hasselback earlier.

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Speaker 4: Denver's got a better team than people realize. But again,

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Speaker 4: this is one of those things where Josh Allen is

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Speaker 4: that quarterback that can go above the x's and o's

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Speaker 4: without the other superstars mahomes Lamar Burrow. They're not in

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Speaker 4: the AFC this year. This might be your best chance, Buffalo, like,

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Speaker 4: go do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, I think Denver's got the better team, the better

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Speaker 1: pass rush, the best corner. I mean, there's so many

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Speaker 1: elements where I like Denver in this spot.

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Speaker 3: They're rested, They've got a great I think.

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Speaker 1: I do think having extra time to prepare with a

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Speaker 1: really clever play designer and Sean Payton is an absolute advantage,

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Speaker 1: no question. But then again, Jacksonville had Liam Cohen, great

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Speaker 1: play designer and play caller. Now he didn't have an

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Speaker 1: extra week. But you think to yourself, oh, you're at home.

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Speaker 1: You got the offensive guy. So a lot of good

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Speaker 1: offensive coaches Shanahan, McVeigh, Ben Johnson, Sean Payton still remaining.

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Speaker 1: I think I don't know what to make it tonight. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: my intuition tells me Mike Tomlin extra day Monday underdog

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Speaker 1: probably playing probably their healthiest offensively. But the Texans defense,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what the over under is. The

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Speaker 1: Texans defense is completely suffocating. So you know, if you

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Speaker 1: told me Pittsburgh has a history of in these games

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Speaker 1: and in these spots finding points.

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Speaker 3: You know, they just do.

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Speaker 1: They get the turnover, they block a kick, they get

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Speaker 1: a return. We will go to Pittsburgh where the game

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Speaker 1: is tonight. We will go there at the end of

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Speaker 1: the show thirty eight and a half for tonight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's probably about where it should be.

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Speaker 6: Colin, who do you give the chance of a better

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Speaker 6: upset possibility, Brock Purdy on the road or Matt Stafford

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Speaker 6: on the road.

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Speaker 3: Matt Stafford has a healthier team, he's got a healthier defense.

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Speaker 6: And the other one is are you surprised that Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen opened as a favorite. In Denver, they were minus

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Speaker 6: one and a half. I don't know where it is

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Speaker 6: at this very second, but it was trending toward pick them.

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Speaker 6: Bo Nicks rested, Denver defense rested Bills. They lost their receiver,

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Speaker 6: Gave Davis went down with a pretty bad knee injury.

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Speaker 7: I think he's done.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to.

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Speaker 7: Make of the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 6: It was essentially Josh Allen. Did you see James Cook

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Speaker 6: had under fifty yards rushing. Yeah, I mean we nailed

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Speaker 6: the handicap on that.

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Speaker 7: Ja.

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Speaker 6: They're not gonna be able to run. Is Josh Allen

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Speaker 6: going to save them? And he bailed them out with

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Speaker 6: a clutch final drive. He got beat up pretty badly though.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: By the end of the game, he was hobbling.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's the knee, the hand concussion protocol. That's

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Speaker 1: why I find the Bears, you know, the reason I

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Speaker 1: love the I thought there run, I thought it was

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Speaker 1: gonna snow, and I'm like, oh snow.

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Speaker 3: I get the Bears before.

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Speaker 7: The game, right, there's all these photos, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then in the end it was actually just

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Speaker 1: a cold, beautiful night so apparently now the Rams Bears

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Speaker 1: weather forecast is it will feel like minus eight degrees.

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Speaker 1: That feels like an edge to the Chicago team. To

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Speaker 1: me Hour three coming up,