WEBVTT - #732 Packers Unscripted: Sizing up the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trust in colleague West hodkow it'z. We're coming

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<v Speaker 1>to you hear from our studios at Lambeufield here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the home opener coming up here. West is

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunday noon kickoff at Lambeau Packers versus Saints, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints are coming in with a two or zero record,

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<v Speaker 1>built largely on the strength of their defense, allowing only

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<v Speaker 1>one touchdown through the first two games of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>and that touchdown occurred with like just over a minute

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<v Speaker 1>to go in game number two. This Saints defense is

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying it's probably the toughest test for Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Love and this Packers offense for at least the first

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<v Speaker 1>half of the season, maybe for the maybe on the

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<v Speaker 1>entire schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree. And just what Dennis Allen has done

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<v Speaker 2>with that unit. I mean, you forget ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>just the roller coaster that those Saints teams went through

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<v Speaker 2>because Drew Brees would be thrown for five thousand yards

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<v Speaker 2>and then they couldn't stop anybody either. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a steady progression for them. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Dennis Allen has sort of been the exception to the rule.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a league where defensive coordinators one don't tend

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<v Speaker 2>to last very long for one reason or another, positive

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<v Speaker 2>or negative in two in having success that has slowly

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<v Speaker 2>built up. I think when you look at these Saints defenses,

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<v Speaker 2>they've gotten better every single year. Dennis Allen has been there.

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<v Speaker 2>The training camp practice we had here last year super

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<v Speaker 2>impressive unit. But I think they've even taken yet another step.

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<v Speaker 2>And the probably the most impressive thing of all to

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<v Speaker 2>me is that Larry mccaerron said this when we were

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<v Speaker 2>doing three things on Wednesday. And it's true they have

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<v Speaker 2>name brand talent at a number of positions, but even

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<v Speaker 2>more than that, they have ageless wonders at those spots.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Cameron Jordan, if you've ever looked at it,

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<v Speaker 2>has one of them satisfying box score career stat lines

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've ever seen. I mean, he went years

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<v Speaker 2>by playing in every single game, and although he did

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<v Speaker 2>miss one last year and the year before, it actually

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<v Speaker 2>has allowed him to continue the streak of sixteen starts

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<v Speaker 2>a season. Yeah, and he continues to be a top

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<v Speaker 2>playmaker the honey Badger. I mean, you see Marshawn Lattimore

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<v Speaker 2>coming back kind of a scary incident last year, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, return at the end of last season and

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<v Speaker 2>he's built back as good as he's ever been. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a very dangerous unit for Jordan Love and this Packers

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<v Speaker 2>offense to tackle, but also an incredible opportunity to show

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<v Speaker 2>how far this offense has come in a short period

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<v Speaker 2>of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yesterday when I was putting together a story on

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints defense and I was looking up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with regard to Cam Jordan de Mario Davis at middle linebacker,

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<v Speaker 1>Lattimore and Tyron Matthew. Like you said, in the secondary,

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<v Speaker 1>you start adding up to the the All Pros and

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<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowls and stuff, and you lose track. Because

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<v Speaker 1>these these are extremely veteran, extremely accomplished play in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>They will have to make one significant adjustment in the

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<v Speaker 1>secondary because starting safety Marcus May, who has an interception

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<v Speaker 1>this season, has been suspended by the NFL for a

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<v Speaker 1>violation of the substance Abuse policy, so he will not

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<v Speaker 1>be on the field at Lambeau. But this defense, it

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<v Speaker 1>started to hit its stride in the second half of

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<v Speaker 1>last season. You look at how twenty twenty two went

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<v Speaker 1>for the Saints. Seven of their first nine games I

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<v Speaker 1>believe on the season they allowed twenty four plus points

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that, seven out of nine. But then

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<v Speaker 1>in the final eight games last season they did not

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<v Speaker 1>allow any team to score more than twenty and that

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<v Speaker 1>streak has now continued into twenty twenty three. They're at

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<v Speaker 1>ten consecutive games not allowing more than twenty points, which

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<v Speaker 1>is one off of the longest such streak by a

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<v Speaker 1>defense in the NFL basically in the last twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>three years. So a major test for the Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>Packers for Jordan Love, and we'll see what happens with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to where things are on offense. Christian Watson is

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<v Speaker 1>back at practice, Aaron Jones is not. Elton Jenkins is

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<v Speaker 1>out kind of on He's on a week to week

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<v Speaker 1>basis right now. David Bakhtiari essentially is week to week

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<v Speaker 1>as well from what we know at this point, So

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see just who all is out there comes Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that we know for sure won't be I

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<v Speaker 1>think is Jenkins. Everybody else will have to see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But as we talked about on our last show, the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers were putting together a pretty good offensive performance despite

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<v Speaker 1>being extremely shorthanded in terms of some of your major

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<v Speaker 1>players against Atlanta. You've got to you've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to, you know, bounce back from that rough fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>pick up where you left off in that second and

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<v Speaker 1>third quarters in Atlanta and try to try to capitalize

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<v Speaker 1>on the opportunities you do get against a tough unit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. One of the big points I've been stressing this week,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of my writing has been remembering what

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<v Speaker 2>you did well in the third quarter, but learning from

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in the fourth. Yeah, and you know, Packers

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<v Speaker 2>got up One thing not enough people really talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a story that I'm writing this week. It's

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<v Speaker 2>something you and I have discussed as the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love for all of these games that he's played,

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<v Speaker 2>so few of them have actually come at lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the times in which he's gotten in and

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<v Speaker 2>gotten some experience. Now he finally gets that home field advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>The Packers have to make that count and we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>what tools and weapons are going to be around him

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<v Speaker 2>in this one. Certainly it was a positive sign to

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<v Speaker 2>see Christian Watson being able to practice again on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 2>after returning last Friday. That's a big, big check mark

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<v Speaker 2>there to make sure there were no setbacks in his rehab.

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<v Speaker 2>But David Bactieri, Elton Jenkins, and Aaron Jones, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>three of the best at their position, not on this

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<v Speaker 2>football team, but in the National Football League, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to overcome that. At the same token,

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<v Speaker 2>the New Orleans Saints are dealing with their own business

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<v Speaker 2>right now. As you mentioned, may get suspended. Elvin Kamar

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<v Speaker 2>is still on the suspension, and now Jamal Williams has

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<v Speaker 2>this hamstring injury that likely is going to sideline him

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. So now they're looking at a young backfield

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<v Speaker 2>that's going up with Derek Carr. The most intriguing thing

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and I don't want to end up sounding

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<v Speaker 2>like a broken record here, Mike, but watching these turnover

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<v Speaker 2>margins and differentials in the coming weeks is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be really critical because, yes, the Packers have done a

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<v Speaker 2>great job of protecting the football. They need to extend

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<v Speaker 2>that into this game against the Saints because they're going

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<v Speaker 2>up against the New Orleans offense that has been a

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<v Speaker 2>little inconsistent in recent years. And while they have made

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<v Speaker 2>the transition now to Derek Carr. Carr has one touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>he has two interceptions, He's been sacked eight times. There

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<v Speaker 2>is opportunity out there, but you have to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that if this game is going to be seventeen to fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the points to win those type of games.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's what I was going to say about

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<v Speaker 1>Carr with him taking over now in New Orleans. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at and it is only just two games thus far,

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<v Speaker 1>but you look at the stats, you see sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>percent completion rate seems to be pretty efficient. But the

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<v Speaker 1>two interceptions in the eight sacks definitely jump off the page.

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<v Speaker 1>After two games, there is the potential to disrupt things,

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<v Speaker 1>to make things difficult on this Saints offense. They won't

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<v Speaker 1>have Kamara in the backfield. It sounds like they won't

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<v Speaker 1>have Jamal Williams. That's certainly going to put an even

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<v Speaker 1>bigger spotlight than normal on Taysom Hill and how the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints are going to use him, whether it be as

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<v Speaker 1>a straight tailback or as a wildcat quarterback or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>they want to do. There in their receiving corps. They

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<v Speaker 1>have right now, they have kind of the one to

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<v Speaker 1>two the combination of the old pro with the young

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<v Speaker 1>rising star. You've got Michael Thomas, you got Chris Olave,

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<v Speaker 1>those guys, and Derek Carr's a veteran quarterback. You figure

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<v Speaker 1>it's not going to take that long for all of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys to get on the same page. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think the big question with this game, based on how

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<v Speaker 1>well the Fat Falcons ran the ball and ultimately used

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<v Speaker 1>that to come back and defeat the Packers in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter last week. What are the Saints going to

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<v Speaker 1>do to run the ball, because you know they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to want to attack the Packers and their run defense

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<v Speaker 1>that did not perform well last week. But by the

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<v Speaker 1>same token, you can't just you can't just ignore what

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<v Speaker 1>you do well, which right now they're not the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>rushing offense because they've had so many moving parts in

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<v Speaker 1>the backfield.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one hundred percent correct, Mike, But there also is

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<v Speaker 2>a young man down there in Tony Jones Junior, who's

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<v Speaker 2>best game in the National Football League came right out

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<v Speaker 2>of the gate against the Packers in twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven carries fifty yards. That was a tough day for

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<v Speaker 2>the Packers trying to defend the run. Jones was the

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<v Speaker 2>complimentary back in that scenario, and he ran the ball

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<v Speaker 2>really well. He's never run for fifty yards again. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know that rookie that twenty twenty one season

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<v Speaker 2>if he ended up running for another fifty the entire year.

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<v Speaker 2>But he has that confidence in his back pocket if

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<v Speaker 2>they have to turn to him in this game. For me, though,

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<v Speaker 2>it does go back to the tricks. It comes back

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<v Speaker 2>to Taysom Hill. The Packers have actually done a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good job defending Taysom Hill in the past few years.

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<v Speaker 2>Alvin Kamara a little bit of a different story, but

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<v Speaker 2>Taysom Hill, they've been able to keep him somewhat under wraps.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to imagine though, they are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>cooking up and coming up with some interesting plans for him. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>last week we saw what he can do with the

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<v Speaker 2>ball in his hand. Get him in space. He's still quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though everyone wants to talk about the age number,

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of plays beyond that. And then, as we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about before we went on air, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Rashid Shaheed is a guy that has really impressed me

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<v Speaker 2>as a former college free agent that again has made

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<v Speaker 2>some critical plays for them both last year and now

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<v Speaker 2>going into this year. And he gives you a special

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<v Speaker 2>team's aspect of that you know game as well. The

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans Saints went and got Derek Carr for a

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<v Speaker 2>very specific reason. It's almost kind of like the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Jets light. They had a team they felt could

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<v Speaker 2>compete to win a division title. They had a team

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<v Speaker 2>they felt could compete to actually get to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>but they just made either too many mistakes when as

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<v Speaker 2>Winston was in there, or they just got a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit too blase when it was Andy Dalton. Derek Carr

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<v Speaker 2>gives them a little bit more of both worlds there,

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<v Speaker 2>the playmaking and also the protection. And that's what they're

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<v Speaker 2>hoping to build this thing off of. They were hoping

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<v Speaker 2>with that signing and that acquisition that they were that

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<v Speaker 2>player away from being able to make this thing happen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I want to get to our keys to victory

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<v Speaker 1>to Victory. We've already dropped a few suggestions here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you were to put something at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the list, Wes, what is the a number one

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<v Speaker 1>priority that we'll get the Packers a victory on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not gonna sound great, okay, because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>home opener at lambeau Field, and there's seventy eight thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people there that are reven and rare in to go,

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<v Speaker 2>and you want them to have as entertaining of a

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<v Speaker 2>football game as possible. But for me, it's that if

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<v Speaker 2>the game gets kind of boring, if there isn't a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of sparkle happening, don't be the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>make the sparkle for the Saints. The Packers have to

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<v Speaker 2>be smart. I think where you've seen these two victories

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<v Speaker 2>that New Orleans has had, it has been predicated on

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<v Speaker 2>the opponent making a mistake in the Saints taking advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of it and ultimately using that to win. Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>has played really clean football. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>percentage possibilities are of going three straight games to start

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<v Speaker 2>a season without a turnover. This would be appreciated though,

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<v Speaker 2>if that can happen in this game. And defensively, it's

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<v Speaker 2>getting back to what they did well against the Bears,

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<v Speaker 2>getting in rotations with that defensive front. I sat here

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<v Speaker 2>and I pontificated about, you know, Kenny Clark and Preston

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<v Speaker 2>Smith and being able to kind of keep some reps

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<v Speaker 2>off of these guys. They need young guys to step

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<v Speaker 2>up up once again against the Saints. It's easy for

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<v Speaker 2>me to sit here and say, yeah, stop the run,

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<v Speaker 2>but that has to happen because the Packers need to

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<v Speaker 2>keep an eye on Chris A. Lave on the back end.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to keep an eye on some of those

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<v Speaker 2>big plays downfield. If the Packers can win this game

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<v Speaker 2>in the trenches up front, in force maybe a turnover

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<v Speaker 2>two along the way, that's going to help out Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Love's cause and hopefully getting his first win at lambeau Field.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like the way you started things. Is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying is don't force it. Don't force it. You can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't try to take something that's that's not there.

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<v Speaker 2>Even if it gets boring, even if it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and and the urgent that there's good, there's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be some urgency there. And here's here's the way

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<v Speaker 1>I see this game. When I look at and I

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<v Speaker 1>understand two weeks as a small sample size. We're just

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<v Speaker 1>in week three here, But when I look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints first two games and everything about this defense and

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<v Speaker 1>and how well they're playing. The Tennessee Titans kicked five

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<v Speaker 1>field goals. The Carolina Panthers kicked three field goals before

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<v Speaker 1>they scored a touchdown. The scoring opportunities are there. Teams

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<v Speaker 1>have not saying they've gone up and down the field,

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<v Speaker 1>but teams have moved the ball well enough at certain

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<v Speaker 1>points in the games to give themselves scoring opportunities. Against

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints. In that Tennessee Titans game, I looked back

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<v Speaker 1>at the numbers. Three of the five field goals that

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee kicked were thirty one yards or shorter. That means

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<v Speaker 1>those possessions were deep in the red zone, but they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't finish the drives. If the Packers are only going

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<v Speaker 1>to get say they're going to follow the same pattern

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<v Speaker 1>as the Panthers or the Titans, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get four or five scoring opportunities in this game, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to are you going to score touchdowns? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to kick field goals? Because if not, to

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<v Speaker 1>say you're going to score a touchdown every single time,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you get enough touchdowns and you're scoring opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to only kicking field goals or as the

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers did, kicking field goals until the last two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of the game, that's going to be the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>whether you have sixteen seventeen points on the board or

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<v Speaker 1>you're up there in the twenty four to twenty seven

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<v Speaker 1>range and breaking this streak of New Orleans holding opponents

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty or less for ten consecutive games. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers are going to have chances to score points.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a matter of whether they whether

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<v Speaker 1>they cash in, and that's ultimately going to decide this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think the Packers defense is going to bounce

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<v Speaker 1>back from its performance last week. I know I talked

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<v Speaker 1>all off season about how the Packers defense has to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this roller coaster thing, which was the story

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<v Speaker 1>all of last season where they play really well and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't play well and they go through these ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs. Well, they just had a down. They just

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<v Speaker 1>had a down game, certainly a down fourth quarter in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>so they have to bring it back up again. But

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<v Speaker 1>then but then try to stay there as best they can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it comes down to what are the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>going to do with the score chances when they get them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and honestly play like a team that plays outdoors.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be cold, but I mean a

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<v Speaker 2>team that is built for this type of environment. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>historically speaking, you can't take one season and just translate

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<v Speaker 2>it to another. But the New Orleans Saints are typically

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<v Speaker 2>a much different team when they're on grass, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to win there in the super Dome, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>win there in those climate controlled environments. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers it's been a long wait to get back to

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<v Speaker 2>lambeau Field for meaningful football, not just preseason. Yeah, making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you can actually capitalize on that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be imperative because there are so many things. I

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<v Speaker 2>just think about this. I've been kind of manifesting in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind a little bit on while this game could start,

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, just imagine with Jordan Love being able

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<v Speaker 2>to get off to some of these quicker starts that

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<v Speaker 2>they have, being able to put points on the board

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<v Speaker 2>in the first quarter, for a Green Bay Packers crowd

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<v Speaker 2>that is just ready to come on glued for this

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<v Speaker 2>young guy. There's no better way that you could start

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<v Speaker 2>a football game. And I think one of the big

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<v Speaker 2>things we never talk enough about, because you're absolutely right

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<v Speaker 2>about the points margins and everything like that, but the

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<v Speaker 2>emotional upliftingness of a touchdown, of putting twenty five thirty

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<v Speaker 2>points on the board is all the momentum that comes

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<v Speaker 2>with that. The Packers have to be able to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, And with regard I lost my train of

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<v Speaker 1>thought there for.

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<v Speaker 2>A second, I could say one more thing, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want the Green Bay Packers, we are going

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<v Speaker 2>to have a big transition with iPhones with your Packers app. Yes,

0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.320
<v Speaker 2>So if you are coming to the game, there's some

0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.760
<v Speaker 2>great little tidbits on Packers dot Com that you could

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<v Speaker 2>find that is actually going to give you some information

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<v Speaker 2>to update your app so you can access your tickets. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to want to do that before you come

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<v Speaker 2>to Lambeufield and then cheer for Jordan Love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's a great reminder, the update, update your app

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<v Speaker 1>so you don't have any issues with your tickets. We're

0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.520
<v Speaker 1>in this whole all electronic ticket world, right, you got

0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to have everything with your phone working right or you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be standing out in the parking lot going

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<v Speaker 1>how do I get in? But I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in that situation.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said an insider inbox, my dad has already

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<v Speaker 2>done it, and if my God bless him, my sixty

0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.000
<v Speaker 2>two year old father can do it, Gosh darn it,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, all right. The other thing I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>point out is that you know you have to make

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it sounds funny to say it this way,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to make the fourth quarter failure last week

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta count for something, which means that you've you've

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<v Speaker 1>got to you've got to learn from it. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to understand, you've got to understand why it happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>on both sides of the ball, defensively and offensively, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to understand why it happened, what led to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and but by the same token, while while learning from it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't dwell on it. You can't let you can't

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<v Speaker 1>let the one bad quarter beat you again. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have another game coming up, you know, four days

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<v Speaker 1>after on Sunday. Don't don't let one bad quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>football suddenly turn the whole first quarter of your season

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<v Speaker 1>upside down. I think Matt Lafleur has always had, has

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<v Speaker 1>always had a really good mentality and a really good

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<v Speaker 1>approach to how to deal with coming up short, how

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with failure. And this was and on the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive side, this was Jordan Love's first first time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stepping into that crucible of crunch time in an NFL

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<v Speaker 1>regular season game, and you have to make the failure count,

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<v Speaker 1>make it worth something so that you're better the next time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll close with this, Matt Lafleur has not been

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<v Speaker 2>in a joking mood this week, nor would I try

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<v Speaker 2>to be a comedian. But you know, when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at what happened in the fourth quarter, I really am

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<v Speaker 2>reminded of that story he always likes to tell about

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<v Speaker 2>his time with the Houston Texans.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, his first year in the NFL as a lowly

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<v Speaker 1>offensive assistant for the Houston Texans going up against Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>Manning and the Indianapolis Colt.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Packers weren't facing Peyton Manning in this game,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does again remind you of you know, twelve thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen point leads. Yeah, if you feel really good about it,

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<v Speaker 2>you have that confidence in that swagger. But they really

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<v Speaker 2>can go quickly, and I think for a young football

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.399
<v Speaker 2>team that's the biggest benefit right now. Yeah, Matt Lafleur

0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.200
<v Speaker 2>and the coaching staff, they've experienced it. A couple of

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.600
<v Speaker 2>these veterans on this team have experienced it, Guys like

0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Dontavian Wicks and Jaden Reed and this young roster they

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<v Speaker 2>might have gotten a taste of it in college, but

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<v Speaker 2>realistically those are the eye openers that kind of remind

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<v Speaker 2>you that league. No lead is safe in this league. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to make those opportunities count. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>really put your your stamp on these games when you

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<v Speaker 2>have the opportunity to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely quickly before we go a couple of other

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<v Speaker 1>games in the NFC North to pay attention to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go Falcons. The Atlanta Falcons, who just beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Green Bay Packers, now go to Ford Field in Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>to take on the Lions. So the Falcons playing the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and Lions in back to back weeks, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers and Lions are going to play one another

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday Night football here coming up. And then we

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<v Speaker 1>touched on this one also on our last show. The

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers are going to Minnesota. Two teams that are both

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<v Speaker 1>zero and two, two teams that nobody thought would be

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<v Speaker 1>zero to two at this stage, and barring a seventy

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<v Speaker 1>minute stalemate, one of these teams is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>oh to three in beginning. We both made the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>And you saying that, you know, two oh and two

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<v Speaker 2>teams that nobody expected, just like Sunday Night Football now,

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<v Speaker 2>where you're gonna have a two and o team in

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<v Speaker 2>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers hosting the defending NFC champions in

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<v Speaker 2>the Philadelphi Eagles, a team that I don't think many

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<v Speaker 2>people expect to be two and oh either. So like

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<v Speaker 2>it just shows you that, regardless of whatever the narratives

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<v Speaker 2>are around these teams, to use another old Matt Lafleur line,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta do it on the grass. Yeah, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Buccaneers going to and taking on Philly now with a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to really get off to fast start, that's one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But US Bank Stadium playing host to this game, this

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<v Speaker 2>could get real bad, real quick for the Vikings if

0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.399
<v Speaker 2>they don't attack this thing the right way. Because while

0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:52.879
<v Speaker 2>the Chargers are oh and two, and while there are

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<v Speaker 2>the Brandon Staley questions out there, they have lost those

0:20:55.880 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 2>games very by narrow, very very easy for you, very

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.399
<v Speaker 2>narrow margins, three narrow margins in one of those is

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<v Speaker 2>too a Miami Dolphins team that's suddenly, you know, NFL's

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.600
<v Speaker 2>pundit's already talking about them being a Super Bowl contender. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So the reminder is there of how important it is

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<v Speaker 2>and how crucial it is to win these games. And

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<v Speaker 2>then also from the Falcons perspective, you know, Arthur Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching a lot of the interviews this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that they're feeling themselves. I think they've taken the

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<v Speaker 2>right mentality, but the NFL is feeling the Falcons now.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, an opportunity after getting in having this

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<v Speaker 2>incredible two and oh start, which is the first time

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<v Speaker 2>in however many years they've done that to go three

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<v Speaker 2>and oh, it would be really important in a division

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<v Speaker 2>that looks like it's going to be a complete, you

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<v Speaker 2>know race right till the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when you have when you bring a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>potential rising star into this league and he does what

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Bejeon Robinson has done in the first two weeks, where

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting a glimpse of what that young man can do.

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody who's watching it knows that as the oak

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<v Speaker 1>cliche goes, that's just scratching the surface, like there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, there's no ceiling as to just maybe what

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that young man could accomplish.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what he gets to do this weekend he

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<v Speaker 2>gets to face the Detroit Lions. So very interested to

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<v Speaker 2>see how that one plays out. The narratives potentially coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of that game could be expansive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, with that, we'll call it a rap on

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all

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<v Speaker 1>of our coverage of the team and everything from Sunday's

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<v Speaker 1>home opener at lambeau Field Packers and Saints. We'll have

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<v Speaker 1>I Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will

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