1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: Col's we can review with Ryan cow callahan. Now here's cal. 3 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: They say revenge is a dish best served cold. But 4 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: if you are a remote Australian community eating a saltwater 5 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: crocodile that's been terrorizing your village, I'd recommend heating up 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: your revenge to a safe internal temperature. CNN reports that 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: police in the town of Bullah in Australia's Northern Territory 8 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: recently shot a giant, twelve foot crocodile they said was 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: a significant risk to the community. Official say the croc 10 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: had been stalking children and adults, lunging out of the 11 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: water at people, and eating pet dogs. The crocodile was 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: shot and the Parks and Wildlife Department conducted a quote 13 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 2: opportunistic crocodile safety session with the village children. Details on 14 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: this are scarce, but I imagine it involved walking kids 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: up to the croc and saying something like, look how 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: big this thing is. He could fit your whole class 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: in his belly. Don't go near the water. Ever, to 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: put an even finer point on it, the crocodile was 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: transported into the village and prepared as a feast in 20 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: the traditional manner. I think these Australians are probably onto 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: something here. It's two bad More nuisance bears aren't turned 22 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: into hams and grease and eaten at the local block 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: party like this. CROC was thanks to listener Sean Lanahan 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: for sending us that story. This week, we've got very 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: good dogs, shrooms, public land and public access. But first 26 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you about my week. In my week, 27 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: went out with a nonprofit organization with a bunch of 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: folks from the Meat Eater off us hike Peak with 29 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: the Station Foundation the other day, a super cool organization 30 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: focusing on the bond between active duty military and other kids, 31 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: so helping with that communication and transition from moms and 32 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 2: dads who are out on deployment and then stepping back 33 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: into family life. It was super fun, super cool, really 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: neat seeing dads being dads out there and have those 35 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: kids in some challenging situations. As we hiked nine to 36 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: ten miles and about three thousand vertical feet, I think 37 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: the youngest was probably a seven or eight and the 38 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: oldest was probably right in there about fourteen. I think 39 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: boys and girls it was great, It was cool, very 40 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: impressed by all those kids. So if you or someone 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: you know could benefit from some structured time with the kid, 42 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 2: oh on your return from deployment, or before deployment, or 43 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: as you're transitioning out into the non military world, check 44 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: out the station found located right here in Bo's Angelus. 45 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: Onto the Snort Report with Tony Peterson special draw snort is. 46 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to say it any other way. 47 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: She's a total shit right now because we're not doing 48 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: any training. And then when we do do a little training, 49 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: so yeah, you know, it's one of these things where 50 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: like I compartmentalize, which does help. So we have toys, tennis, balls, 51 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: the chuck it that it's just there for fun. I'm 52 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: not going to weigh in heavily on discipline things. But 53 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: then when I get out the bumpers, then it's it's 54 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: go time. Helping me with this week's snort report is 55 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: Tony Peterson. Tony is is a super dog dude. So 56 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Tony jump in here any anytime you want. But this 57 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: is where this bite me in butt is. I get 58 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: those bumpers out and that dog turns into like a 59 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 2: full blown fur missile like it's it is a speed. 60 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: If you did the chuck at whatever dinking around five 61 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 2: days a week, on day six, you got the bumper out. 62 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: You've never seen that dog run fast like, it's just 63 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: it's an entirely new animal and teeth are flying and 64 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 2: it's it's frustrating but mostly frustrating because it's my fault. 65 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Why is that so frustrating? 66 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Because you can tell the thinking is not really where 67 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: it needs to be. 68 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Right. 69 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: She'll do the things right, but like she'll come back 70 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: to heel, but she'll come back to heel by starting 71 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: like a ten foot jump and then twist one eighty 72 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: in the air and land at your feet. 73 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: Yep. And she comes in off the top rope, yes. 74 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, And it just takes takes some The reason 75 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: that we're in this spot is because we don't have time, 76 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: and it takes a lot of time to get her 77 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: chilled out enough to then start thinking about not breaking 78 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: right hand directions, hand signals. Yeah, hitting like no, the 79 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: whistle means come when you're ranging on our mindless walks, 80 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: but that single blast the whistle means sit your ass 81 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: down and look at me yep, which she knows, but 82 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: she's choosing not to know. 83 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there there are different ways to approach that. 84 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: I have a I have a pup like that. I 85 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: have a three year old black lab and she is 86 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: a worker. She's so fun. But I kind of have 87 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: to intentionally take the edge off a little bit before 88 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: we get down to business because it's it's not that 89 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to work, it's like she can't handle 90 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: how exciting it is to be just doing this again. 91 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: And so and I know some trainers will say there's 92 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: no excuse, like you should have a handle on that 93 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: dog no matter what. And I'm like, I don't know, 94 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to come down on that 95 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: dog super hard for showing up and really wanting to work. 96 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: And so right, I'm going to shock the shit out 97 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 2: of you, right, I don't because you're excited to get 98 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: to work, right. 99 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I look at that and I go, is 100 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: there a way when you have limited time? Because what 101 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: you're dealing with there is two things. You have a 102 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: dog with a lot of energy and a lot of drive, 103 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: But the component we miss a lot of times is 104 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: how much mental stimulation matters to them. And so like 105 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: for my pupp this time of year especially, I'll do 106 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: a lot of water work because that takes the edge 107 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: off pretty quick. And so we'll we'll I have some places. 108 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: I'm pretty lucky that to have some parks and stuff 109 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: with some water there, so I can start her right off, 110 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, long distance retrieves in the water and give 111 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: her some of that and then take her out into 112 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: a soccer field or something. And then it seems like 113 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: even just you know, five six, seven retrieves in the 114 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: water just takes that edge off a little bit. And 115 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: the other thing that they seem to learn is I 116 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: can see the excitement level. I can see them sort 117 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: of get it under control if we make it consistent. 118 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: Because what you what you see with Snort probably with 119 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: your schedule, is she doesn't know. She doesn't want it 120 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: to end. You know, it's finally starting again. She's like, 121 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: I want to do this all the time if you're 122 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: not hunting. But if they once they kind of start 123 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: to learn like you're going to do this every day, 124 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: it sort of seems and maybe I'm just filling in 125 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: the blanks there, but it sort of seems like they 126 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: go okay, like I don't need to lose my mind. 127 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of like when you go the 128 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: first pheasant hunt, grouse hunt, whatever the year. It's always 129 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: like you're gonna be yelling a little bit, like it's 130 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: just coming because they're so excited. The situation's wild, right, 131 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: But two. 132 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: The components come together, Oh, the vest is out, and 133 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: then there's right, the real shotgun shelves are here and then. 134 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Right, So you just have to you kind of just 135 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: have to work with them individually and and pay attention 136 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: to that mental side because that's you know, you think 137 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: about the difference between if you had little kids and 138 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: you wanted to wear them out, you would find something 139 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: physical for them to do a build this in the 140 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: yard or whatever, but there would also be like a 141 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: mental challenge to it. And we don't think about that 142 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: with dogs. We're like, I'm gonna take out, I'm gonna 143 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: run my gsp for five miles and it's going to 144 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: go and sleep for the rest of the day. But 145 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: if you really want that dog to just settle down, 146 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: they need to use their brains. Like that's why when 147 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: you when you talk about teaching a dog the blood 148 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: trail or track when it's ten years old, that is 149 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: there's like such a natural component to that, right, But 150 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: they also get to solve a problem. They love that. 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: It's so good for them, and so we you kind 152 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: of got to mix those two, you know. 153 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's never going to be a 154 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: substitute for that schedule conditioning. This is what we do. 155 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: You get to use your brain like this all the time. 156 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 2: But on those just impossible days, do you ever have 157 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,239 Speaker 2: you set up like a cent trail in the backyard? 158 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: So many, so many of them? 159 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: And does that work to kind of take the edge off. 160 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: So that yes, And the reason you're kind of double 161 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: dipping with everything, right, like that's a training thing like 162 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: lining drills or whatever like, but it's also getting them 163 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: in a new environment so they have to think it through. 164 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: So you have that comfort level of you know, you're 165 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: not just going to the soccer field. You're not just 166 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: going to the yard to toss a you know, chuck 167 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: it or a bump or whatever. You're putting them in 168 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: a new environment, which you will when they're hunting, which 169 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: you will just throughout their life. You'll take them places 170 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: and then you're asking them, I know, you know, what 171 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: to do with this thing. I'm asked, like, if I 172 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: run this scent line or whatever or blind blind retrieves 173 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: and hand signals, whatever, but now you put it in 174 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: a new place and they freaking love that. And that's 175 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: you know, that's one thing we don't think about with 176 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: dogs is you know, you take a really high drive 177 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: retriever and it's like that dog will retrieve till it 178 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: tips over. You could just do the same thing over 179 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: and over, but they do get bored. 180 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Oh dude, you know I was telling you like in 181 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: the I would take when I was teaching her hand 182 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: signals for the first time, I would go, I would 183 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: leave her in the truck, go out to the same 184 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 2: field every time, place a bunch of dummies out there 185 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: for blind retrieves. We'd do like a little warm up 186 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 2: once I got her out of the truck, and then 187 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: would start doing these blind casting. After two weeks, she'd 188 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: get out of the truck and she would go pick 189 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: up every bumper. 190 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: Right right right, and she'd be like, there's no challenge. 191 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: And the games me bringing these back, So why. 192 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, And I mean people make that mistake a lot. 193 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: And when you think about just mixing up the environment 194 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: with that game, that's that is so important for them 195 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: because you'll have distractions, You'll you'll have like, there's a 196 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: lot they got to work through in those situations, besides 197 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: doing the same thing like you're talking about, but also 198 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: your relationship with working with them. So you think about 199 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: doing that blind retrie of drill. You do it the 200 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: same place every time, maybe the wind kind of flows 201 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: the same way in that spot most of the time. 202 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you go before work and it's kind of the 203 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 1: same conditions over and over. That dog is going to 204 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: have that dial like there's nothing left to it. 205 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: And they should right right, I mean. 206 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: Right, But you're also you're not learning anything as a trainer, 207 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and so you take that situation, you just put it 208 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: in a new environment. Maybe the grass is taller, maybe 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: off in the distance there's like a softball game or 210 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: something like some kind of distraction going on, and now 211 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: that dog struggles a little bit because it can't just 212 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: go run and grab the ones you've always put out there. Now, 213 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: not only is that dog going, Okay, I know what 214 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: he's asking me, and this isn't the same thing, so 215 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: I have to figure this out, but also you're like, well, 216 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: did I leave my dog in the wrong way? With 217 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: the wind, like you're starting to pay attention to those 218 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: little variables or was I trying to give a hand 219 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: signal when that dog was not looking at me? Because 220 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm getting frustrated because they can't find it now. And 221 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: so as a trainer, you kind of level up doing that, 222 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: and your relationship with your dog levels way up because 223 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: you kind of have to learn with them. It's not 224 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: just a set up test for them. 225 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: No, that's a great takeaways. Yeah, you got to push 226 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: push yourself into new scenarios too, right right, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, 227 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: all right, we got to get on with the rest 228 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: of the news, Tony. Thanks for dropping in. We can 229 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: look forward to more Tony upcoming. We're going to launch 230 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: a little something called The Foundations in the near future, 231 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: so it'll be right here on this feed. Be sure 232 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: to check that out. And thanks man, Thank you, well, 233 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: we'll talk to you soon, all right, Moving on to 234 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: the last seed. Ask A dog in Oregon ran four 235 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: miles through the woods earlier this month to get help 236 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: for its owner, who had crashed his truck down a ravine. 237 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: This story was sent to me by listener Jonathan Slessinger, 238 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: who knows that we here at Cow's weekend review are 239 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: always down for a good dog story. The truck driver, 240 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: a sixty two year old man named Brandon Garrett, was 241 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: making his way to a campsite in eastern Oregon when 242 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: he took a curve too fast and rolled his truck 243 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: over an embankment. He had four dogs in the truck, 244 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: and they all tumbled with him in that truck to 245 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: the very bottom. Garrett was so banged up that he 246 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: had trouble moving, but one of those dogs, a whippet 247 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: named Blue, was healthy enough to look for help. The 248 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: New York Times reports that Blue ran nearly four miles 249 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: with glass in his snout and was able to find 250 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: the camp site, which they had visited before. Garrett's friends 251 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 2: and family had already arrived at the site, and when 252 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: they saw Blue, they knew something was wrong. They launched 253 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: a search that went through the night, and Garrett's brother 254 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: found the truck the next morning. He called Garrett's name, 255 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 2: but didn't immediately hear a response. He called nine to 256 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: one one, and rescuers were eventually able to locate Garrett 257 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: about one hundred yards from his truck. He was miraculously 258 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: still alive, and even though he sustained bruises through his body. 259 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: His worst injury was a broken ankle. Of the four dogs, 260 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: one had surgery for a broken hip and injured its femur, 261 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: and another broke its leg in two spots. Blue was 262 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: apparently okay apart from his glass in the snout, and 263 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 2: I hope he's being showered with praise and extra dinner scraps. 264 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: Whippets looked like a smaller version of a greyhound. They 265 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: were bred in Victorian England by coal miners who liked 266 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: to race dogs, but couldn't afford to house the whippet's 267 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: larger cousin. Those coal miners did their job well. Whippets 268 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: can run up thirty five miles an hour and are 269 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: the fastest dog of its size. With that that kind 270 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: of breeding, four miles probably wasn't much of a sweat 271 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: for all. Blue. This a bit of a tangent from 272 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: our regularly scheduled programming, but I discovered something during the 273 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: course of my research for this Lassie Desk segment that 274 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 2: I thought you all should know. You know, the meme 275 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: Timmy fell down the well. It's been parodied on everything 276 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: from The Simpsons to the Big Bang Theory, but it 277 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: never actually happened. The show Lassie ran from nineteen fifty 278 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: four to nineteen seventy three, and not once did the 279 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: main character ever fall down a well and have to 280 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: be saved by a charismatic Collie. There is one episode 281 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: called the Well, but much to my surprise, little Timmy 282 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: never falls down it. I have no idea how that 283 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: idea entered the zeitgeist, but I thought you all should 284 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: know it's a lie. Moving on to the shroom desk, Missouri, 285 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: mushroom hunters have recruited into an ambitious project to document 286 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: every mushroom species in North America. Mushroom foraging has increased 287 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: in popularity in recent years, and my Cota Labs is 288 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: hoping to capitalize on the shroom boom to do something 289 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: science has not yet accomplished. When Europeans came to North America, 290 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: they often miscategorized native species of mushrooms as their European counterparts. 291 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: For example, most of the yellow golden chantrails in North 292 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: America went under a single scientific name. In reality, according 293 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 2: to Steve Russell, the founder and president of my Coda Labs, 294 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: there are probably dozens of different species that were all 295 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: hidden under one funky European hat. That's why my Coda 296 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: Labs is turning to good old fashioned crowdsourcing to find 297 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: and document all these unidentified types of mushrooms. This year, 298 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: they're partnering with the Missouri Mycological Society to find citizen 299 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: scientists willing to find and document the mushrooms they see 300 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: while out in the field. Participants are instructed to download 301 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: the Eye Naturalist mobile app to document mushrooms and then 302 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: dry those mushrooms and send them to the Mycota lap. 303 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: If you're a Missouri hunter who's also interested in shrooms, 304 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: this is a great opportunity to do a little two 305 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: for one while in the woods this fall. Visit mycoda 306 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: dot com for more info and man, if you do 307 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: this right in, we love our citizen science. Here on 308 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: the Weekend Review. You'll find mushrooms in the woods, but 309 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: you also might find them in your local cemetery. Listener 310 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: Jim Lane recently sent me a link to a product 311 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm shocked I haven't heard of before. Now Apparently there 312 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: are companies that sell suits like the kind of suit 313 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: you wear to funeral laced with my celia. My Celia 314 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: are the root like structures of a fungus that live 315 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: in the soil. Mushrooms are the fruiting bodies of my 316 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 2: celia that spring up when conditions are right. Anyway, these 317 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: mushroom suits are being billed as an environmentally friendly way 318 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: to be buried. My Celia break down the toxins in 319 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: bacteria that are still living in your body after you die. Normally, 320 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: these toxins leach out into the ground, but when fitted 321 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: with your spiffy new mushroom suit, the myceilia colonize your 322 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: dead body and eat all that nasty stuff before it 323 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 2: has a chance to contaminate the soil. At least that's 324 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: the sales pitch. This burial method has been around for 325 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: a while, but it really picked up steam in twenty 326 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: nineteen when actor Luke Perry's daughter revealed he would be 327 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: buried in a mushroom suit. The former star of Beverly 328 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: Hills nine point two one Ohm made a name for 329 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: himself depicting a teenager transitioning from high school to college 330 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: and into the adult world. It seems appropriate that for 331 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: this final act he depicted a human transitioning from living 332 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: person to mushroom food. The real question is if you're 333 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 2: a Sophie Perry. Would you eat a mushroom growing out 334 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: of the top of Dad's grave? M macob and delicious. 335 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: Whatever the answer might be, I'd advise against mushroom foraging 336 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: in your local graveyard, even leaving aside the question of 337 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: respect for the day, not to mention the fact that 338 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: many mushrooms are poisonous. Remember what I said earlier about 339 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: mushrooms Soaking up toxins not the best compliment to your 340 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 2: hard earned packed out on your back medium rare elk steak. 341 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: Moving on to the Happy Trails desk, The owners of 342 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: ranch in central Idaho were rejected by the Supreme Court 343 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: last week in their bid to close a four and 344 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: a half mile public trail. All the way back in 345 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: two thousand and five, the Forest Service paid one point 346 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 2: eight million dollars to the ranch's previous owners for an 347 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 2: easement that would connect the town of Stanley, Idaho, to 348 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 2: Redfish Lake. The lake is located in the Sawtooth National 349 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: Recreation Area, so it made sense to give locals and 350 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: tourists an easy way to travel from the town to 351 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: the lake. The ranch's owners had been informally allowing people 352 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: to use the dirt path and the easement made sure 353 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: that activity could continue legally and without interruption. That's right. 354 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 2: They started out as just good neighbor and then made 355 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: a formal good neighbor agreement in the form of an easement. 356 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: But in twenty sixteen, the saw Tooth Mountain Ranch was 357 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: sold to a new owner, a fellow named David Boren. 358 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: Born had made his fortune building a boise finance software 359 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: company called Clearwater Analytics, and he decided that he didn't 360 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: want a public trail cutting through his property, which he 361 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: had already purchased, and in the disclosure of the purchase 362 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: property that easement that public right of way already existed, 363 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: so earlier this year, he submitted a petition to the 364 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: US Supreme Court asking it to hear the case. His 365 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: lawyers argued, in part that the original easement agreement did 366 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 2: not allow a permanent gravel trail to be installed. They 367 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: asked the Supreme Court to hear the case because lower 368 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: courts had decided that they'd filed the suit too late. 369 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: The permanent gravel trail had been announced in twenty fourteen, 370 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: approved in twenty eighteen, and just opened this year, but 371 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: Born and his team didn't file a lawsuit until twenty nineteen, 372 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: which the lower courts said was past the statute of limitations. 373 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: Now that the Supreme Court has declined to hear the case, 374 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: those lower court decisions stand and the trail will stay 375 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: exactly where it is. Thanks to listener Jack Cooska for 376 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: sending us that story. I got to chime in here too, 377 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: because we're missing a chunk a good detail here. This dude, 378 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: fancy fella with a bunch of cash, at one point 379 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: harassed people using this public easement with his helicopter just 380 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 2: to paint the picture. You know, if you love stuff 381 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: like that, maybe he'll be like, Oh, this boring guy's great. 382 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: If you don't, you know, think what you will just 383 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 2: want to throw that out there. Another story of a 384 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: con trail versy comes courtesy of listeners Zed Nelson. Residents 385 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: of Cash Valley, Utah, became concerned when they began to 386 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 2: see no trespassing signs pop up along several local trails. 387 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: A man named Scott Schreiber had recently purchased nine hundred 388 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: acres that incore raided those trails, which residents had been 389 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: using for decades to reach the public lands. On the 390 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: other side. Shreiber not only posted no trespassing signs, he 391 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: also began cutting his own trails and expanding the existing 392 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: ones without a permit. He says he plans to use 393 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: his acreage as hunting grounds. Local residents, including the mayor 394 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: of Clarkston, were understandably upset. While Schreiber did eventually secure 395 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: the right permits for his road building, many worried that 396 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: his activities would cause environmental damage. Clarkston City engineer Scott 397 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: Archibald told local media that this kind of trail clearing 398 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: can seriously damage the watershed, but Shreiber never did any 399 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: kind of environmental assessment before he started clearing. Schreiber's attorney 400 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 2: says that he does plan to allow some public access 401 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 2: through some of the trails, but he's planning to restrict 402 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: motorized vehicles and he wants people to ask permission before 403 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: they enter the property. For their part, it doesn't sound 404 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: like local residents planned to go along with that state 405 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: of affairs. A trails committee member told KSL dot com 406 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: that plans to publish maps showing public paths that still 407 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 2: include the trails through Shreiber's property. Boy oh boy. If 408 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: anybody from the state of Utah wants to write into 409 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 2: askcal that's Ascal at themediator dot com. Let us know 410 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 2: the legalities of this situation. We'd love to hear it. 411 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: Moving on to the access desk, speaking of landowners denying 412 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: public access, listener Mark Wilson wrote in with an on 413 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: the ground report out of Wyoming. Mark recently returned from 414 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: a turkey hunting trip to the Cowboy State and he 415 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: experienced a problem he says is just as significant as 416 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: the corner crossing issue. He reports that many pieces of 417 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 2: public land in the Black Hills are landlocked by tiny 418 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: pieces of private land. In some of these examples, which 419 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: he sent me on on x, these public parcels are 420 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: located just five yards away from a public road. However, 421 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 2: those five yards of ditch are owned by private ranchers 422 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 2: who Mark claims want exorbitant amounts of money for the 423 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: privilege of crossing. Mark says he spoke with ranchers who 424 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: wanted anywhere from two hundred and fifty to thirty five 425 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: hundred dollars for permission to cross those strips of land 426 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: to access for a service property. On the other side, 427 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: some of these landowners told Mark that they actually sell 428 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: hunts on those parcels of public land and bait the 429 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 2: property ahead of time, which by the way, is illegal 430 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: even in Wyoming. Others claimed that they'd purchase those public 431 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: parcels when they purchase their ranches, which is a misconception 432 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: often pushed by sellers and their land agents. I shouldn't 433 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: say often has reportedly been in the past pushed by 434 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: sellers and their land agents. Mark also says some of 435 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: these ranchers told him that they're quick to call fishing 436 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: game if their property is crossed without their consent. Based 437 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: on the on X screenshots Mark sent over, I can 438 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: see why this is frustrating. In some cases, the corner 439 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: of a piece of public land comes within what looks 440 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: like just a few yards of a public road. Being 441 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: so close to a property that might contain turkeys with 442 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: no way to access would be infuriating. To help us 443 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 2: with this issue, I reached out to Dave Wilms of 444 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: the National Wildlife Federation. Dave is an expert on public 445 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: land in Wyoming, and you may remember him from our 446 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: conversation in episode two seventy five. Dave tells me that 447 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: it's legal for a landowner to charge an access fee 448 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: to cross even a small strip of private land, and 449 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 2: it's also legal to charge a fee for harvesting a 450 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: bird as a result of the access granted. However, Mark 451 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: is correct that this is a big deal. There are 452 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: approximately one point one million acres of landlocked public land 453 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 2: in Wyoming, and much of it is locked up in 454 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: exactly this way. The checkerboard pattern gets a lot of 455 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: attention due to the corner crossing issue, but these random 456 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: strips of property are also a big problem. If the 457 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: corner crossing issue does get resolved and hunters can across 458 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: a landowner's airspace, I wonder if hunters will think of 459 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 2: other creative ways to jump over five yards of private 460 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: property onto public acres. Maybe a backpack size trampoline, little jetpack, pole, vaults, 461 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 2: you know, get creative out there. This is an interesting 462 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: situation though, because you got to check with the county 463 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: that you're in. But see how wide the county road 464 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: easement is. Typically, public land does not stop on the 465 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: shoulder of the road. It goes beyond check with your 466 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: county first. Moving on to the d banking desk, a 467 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: Wyoming decoy company had to temporarily shut down last week 468 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: after Wells Fargo Merchant Services suspended its ability to process 469 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 2: credit card payments. Caleb Rankin set this one in. Prairie 470 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: Wind Decoys send email to their customers on June twelfth, 471 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 2: explaining that Wells Fargo had stopped processing credit cards because 472 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: the decoy company sells shotgun shells and components on its website. 473 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 2: Prairie Wind owner Jim Jones said in the email that 474 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: the Giant bank had given them no warning before shutting 475 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: them down on June fifth. He also wasn't shy about 476 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: letting his customers know how he felt. He wrote, quote, Folks, 477 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 2: this has gone too far. Anyone can walk into a 478 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: wal Mart and buy shotgun shells twenty four hours a day. 479 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: This is perhaps one of the stupidest policies that I 480 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: have ever heard. This wouldn't be the first time I 481 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: financial company went after business for selling guns and AMMO. 482 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, Bank of America announced it would stop 483 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: doing business with companies that make and sell AR fifteen 484 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: style rifles. JP Morgan Chase reportedly pressured the owner of 485 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: Quick Books to prohibit gun companies from using its accounting software. 486 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: Since at least twenty eighteen, Goldman Sachs has refused to 487 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: invest in gun manufactures. I could go on, but you 488 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 2: get the idea. Historically, Wells Fargo has shied away from 489 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: sticking its nose into the constitutional rights of its customers. 490 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: In twenty eighteen, former CEO Tim Sloan explicitly refused to 491 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: follow his fellow bankers and crack down on gun makers 492 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: and sellers. But times of change, and now it looks 493 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: like Wells Fargo is getting in line with those other 494 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: anti gun folks. The problem has gotten so bad that 495 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: earlier this year, sixteen state attorney generals sent a letter 496 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: to current CEOs Charles Scharf, asking why the bank has 497 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: been going after gun related companies. They cited an incident 498 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: from last year in which Wells Fargo abruptly canceled the 499 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: accounts of a prominent gun dealer in Florida called the 500 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: wex Gunworks. The bank closed the personal and business bank 501 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: accounts of owner Brandon Wexler, even though Wexler had a 502 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: personal account with the bank for twenty five years and 503 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 2: a business account for fourteen. But the bank suddenly decided 504 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 2: that lending money to a gun store was too risky, 505 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: and they gave him a month to find a new lender. 506 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: Businesses that sell guns and ammo have responded to this 507 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: d banking campaign by moving away from traditional institutions and 508 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: towards smaller banks that build themselves as gun friendly, but 509 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: there are also signs that those traditional institutions might be 510 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: changing course. Bank of America announced earlier this month that 511 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: it would be reversing its blanket ban on lending to 512 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: companies that manufacture AR fifteens. They will now consider these 513 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: loans on a case by case basis, subject to enhanced 514 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: due diligence. As of this recording, Prairie Winds Decoys is 515 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: still having trouble taking orders. They say they're trying to 516 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: get their system back up and running as soon as possible, 517 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: but right now, the only way to place an order 518 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: is to call in and use PayPal, as long as 519 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: the order doesn't include ammunition, since PayPal doesn't allow its 520 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: services to be used on ammunition purchases. Moving on to 521 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: the mail bag, listener Jake Warren wrote in and with 522 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: a great story about why we should speak up if 523 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: we see something wrong with how our wildlife is managed. 524 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: Jake lives in the Canadian province of Ontario, where he 525 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: says they have had a limited elk hunting season since 526 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: about twenty ten. Unfortunately, the province's elk reintroduction efforts haven't 527 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: gone to plan, and the animals haven't dispersed as widely 528 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: as hope. Jake says. The province has eight harvest units, 529 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: but in most of those units, hunters don't harvest a 530 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: single animal. In some areas, the elk numbers are so 531 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: low that hunters never even saw one. Unfortunately, Jake didn't 532 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: know this when he pulled the cow elk tag in 533 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. He was excited, and he and his 534 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: friends pre scouted hard, hunted hard for five days, and 535 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: came up empty. He reports that quote locals laughed at us, 536 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 2: explaining that there are actually no elk there at all. 537 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 2: They were shocked that they were even sold to tag. 538 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: Local forestry workers in the local conservation officer had never 539 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: heard of elk being there either. As you can imagine, 540 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: Jake was pretty frustrated. When hunters purchased a tag to 541 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: a specific area, they expect to have at least some 542 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: opportunity to fill that tag. It doesn't sound like that's 543 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 2: the case here, and Jake let the Ontario Ministry of 544 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: Natural Resources know how he felt. To his surprise, the 545 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: Ministry actually responded. He doesn't say whether they wrote him back, 546 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: but in the last two years, they haven't issued tags 547 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: in five of those eight harvest units. If you go 548 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: to the ministry's website, you'll see that the quota is 549 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: four elk in units two, five, and six, and zero 550 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: elk in the other five. Jake likely wasn't the only 551 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: hunter to expresses frustration, but I have no doubt his 552 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: comments were taken into account. While it's never ideal to 553 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: lose hunting opportunities, it doesn't sound like there were any 554 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: to begin with. Now, thanks to Jake and others who 555 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: spoke up, no one will be wasting their money and 556 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: time chasing elk in Ontario, where elk don't live. Thank 557 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: you so much for listening. Remember to write in to 558 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 2: ask c Al that's Askcal at themeaeater dot com and 559 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: let me know what's going on in your neck of 560 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: the woods. You know I appreciate thanks again. I'll talk 561 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: to you next week.