WEBVTT - Dirty Rush: Under the Influence 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:04.280 Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about sorority life with 0:00:04.320 --> 0:00:08.520 your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.840 Welcome back to Dirty Rush. We're continuing our conversation with 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:20.360 influencers who lived the sorority experience firsthand. We're back with 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:20.959 part three. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:23.520 So nice to meet you. I'm Riley. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.799 Nice to meet you. TG. It has been telling me 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:27.080 how amazing you are. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.920 Wait, I know you went to Arizona, but I didn't 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:30.920 know you were in a sorority. 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.840 Yeah, I was. I loved it too. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:35.440 Sorority were you in? 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:36.960 I was in Delta Zeta? 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:38.200 Very cool? 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:45.720 I graduated today, so like, yeah, youngrats, thank you. 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.519 Okay, so take the girls through your rush process. I'm 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:54.240 sure your outfits were insane, so let's hear all about it. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:58.960 It was so crazy because I'm originally from Louisiana, so 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.920 rushing out there and like in the South is totally 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:06.760 different and like rushing is not everyone's vibe. That's like 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.280 for sure, and that's how I felt like in the South. 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.360 I was like, oh, absolutely not, Like I will not 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.240 be the Southern bell like screaming at the door like 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.119 that was just like not my vibe. And then I 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.440 went to Arizona and I was on a cheer team 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.600 like my entire life. So I was like, I have 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.320 to like I need some sense of like community, I 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:28.280 need my girls. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:29.360 Like I didn't know. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.680 What to do, especially like moving across the country to 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.520 go to college like I was eighteen. I had no 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.560 idea what I was doing. And yeah, I just like 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:42.040 embraced the process. I was like, whatever happens is going 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:47.080 to happen. One of the like sororities. There is like 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.240 top sorority like in the nation. And so I had 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.160 someone like in my life at the time was like 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:55.240 telling me all about that. I was like, oh my gosh, 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.840 you have to rush the sorority, like they're top in 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:58.280 the nation. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.960 They're top at ASU. Like that was the vibe. So 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.440 I kind of like had that in the back of 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:03.000 my mind. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.040 And I remember just like walking into Delta Zeta and 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.400 Delta Zada was not the house she was talking about. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:11.960 And I walked into Delta Zada and I was like 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.680 this is it. I had full body chills. I was 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:18.720 like like me, like no, like sorty. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:18.960 Is not for me. 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.600 Like I was in there like crying, like and I 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:23.600 was like, yeah, this. 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.840 Is my home, this is it for me. 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.880 And then ever since then, like I was like that's it, 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:30.880 Like I didn't listen to her, and like I remember 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.080 them saying, like you end up in the house like 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.560 you're supposed to be in Like whatever happened, it's meant 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.800 to happen, even if like you don't if that's like 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.560 where you wanted to go in the first place. And 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.080 there was like time because like my my best friend 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:49.040 in my roommate went the house and like my second choice, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:50.960 and there was so many times where I was like 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.239 did I make the right decision? 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.120 Like I would like overthink it. 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:57.639 All the time, and as like the weeks went by, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.520 I was like, oh my gosh, like like everything's so clear. 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.200 I like went so I went to the right house. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:06.519 But yeah, it was like such a good experience. 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.200 I love that year and such a good time. 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:10.960 Yeah. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:15.040 So then would you recommend Rushing a sorority to girls 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.480 who are listening to this podcast? 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.680 Oh for sure, Like it just brings that sense of 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.040 like home away from home. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:22.280 I know. 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.640 It's like everything that like so already say. It's like, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:26.880 oh my gosh, everyone says that, but it's true. Like 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.720 when you find the right one, like you actually embrace 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.000 it and you don't like listen to like the people 0:03:32.000 --> 0:03:33.960 that are like, oh my gosh, you're paying for friends 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.280 or like whatever else. It is like it's actually your 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.880 home away from home, Like it's the girls that will 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.160 literally be in your wedding one day. Like it's the 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.600 girls that are gonna be there when you go through 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.200 your breakup in like college and you think your life sober, 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.760 like they're like picking you up like that. 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:49.360 I don't know. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.200 College is such like an intense time, so. 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:54.280 I would recommend it. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.120 Like when I went through Rush and I saw the 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.360 girls in Daltha Zaida, I was like, this is. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.640 Like I want to be just like them, like I 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.000 want to It was. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:05.640 It was a situation where I was like I not 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.560 only can like see myself here and like being friends 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.800 with them, but like they're also like inspiring me. At 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:14.680 the same time, the girl like rushed like to the end, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.160 like I was talking to like every day. Basically, She's 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.359 like what helps me is I look around. I'm like, 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.560 could I see my best friend that I had like 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:24.920 all throughout childhood or like my best friend in high school? 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.960 Like could I see them in this room like fitting 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.200 in and if your answer is yeah, and like that's 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:30.839 a really good sign. And I was like, yeah, like 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:33.200 my best friend would totally be in this room, so 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.040 I'd recommend it one million percent. 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:40.919 So then when did you start TikTok and starting like 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.600 when did you start social media? 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.719 I started social media my junior year of high school, 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.160 so I had been doing it for a couple of years. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:53.320 But it really didn't play a part into me rushing 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:53.760 at all. 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:59.200 Like I in my heart and in my soul my body, 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:05.240 I didn't ever feel like social media was any like 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:06.480 one up, Like. 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:09.240 It didn't separate me from people, like still to this. 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.200 Day, like when I talked to like followers of mine, 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.960 like all I can say is I'm just the same 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.360 as you, And that's all I've ever wanted to feel. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.719 Yeah, and that's all I've ever wanted, like other people 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:20.200 to feel. 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:24.599 So being in a sorority only made it more like 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.560 grounding for me, and like I would be going on 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.800 brand trips and I could like come back to like 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.200 my sorority house and like all my story sisters are 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.880 like sitting there and like just doing normal college things. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.839 So it really didn't play that big of a part 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:39.200 into it. 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.560 And I always people always say, like ASU is like 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.440 such the influencer school, like everyone there is like has 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:46.320 followers or is. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:48.279 Like trying to be an influencer. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.359 And so I guess maybe that like pluted into it 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.760 a little bit because I didn't feel different. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.600 And you didn't feel different while you were rushing either. 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:56.560 Not at all. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.839 Like was everyone who were around kind of like tiktoking 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:00.599 and stuff too? 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.880 Oh yeah, for sure, Like I ticked off the whole thing. 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.440 I yeah, I was videoing everything, but no, never once 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.320 like did they make me feel like any of the 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.200 houses ever made me feel like different than anyone else. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.360 So I think that definitely plays into the part of like, 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:20.120 that's why my experience was probably so good, as they 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.280 made me feel like just the next person, which is 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:24.960 like how I want to be, Like that's how I 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:25.600 want to feel. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.160 So it's yeah, not a problem at all. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.719 And you also have your amazing clothing brand called Jane Doe. 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.560 When did you start that? 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.320 Yeah, I started that my sophomore year. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:43.599 Actually, I honestly like I was with the guy, so 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.480 I met my boyfriend or my boyfriend at the time, 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.159 like the first day of college. He was the first 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:53.240 guy I ever like talked to, and we kind of 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:56.400 had like gone through some stuff, and there was spring break. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.640 He like went off with his friends to Hawaii and 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.200 I was stuck in Arizona and I was like, oh 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.400 my gosh, I hate this, Like I need to like 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:05.640 boss up really quick. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:07.720 So my mom was like, you need to come home. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.840 She flew me home, and. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.480 In one night, I had like a website, an LLC, 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.840 the name, like all of that, and it just like. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:16.560 Started from there. 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.560 That's incredible, And wait, what's the why how did you 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.040 come up with the name Jane Doe. 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.160 Yeah, so my middle name is Jane, and so I 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.600 wanted to kind of plan to that. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.640 And then a Jane Doe. 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.320 Is like a John Doe is like an unidentified person, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.080 and Jane Doe was like the girl version of that. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.160 And I just thought it was cool because I'm so 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:39.920 like I always say, like, be the be you. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:41.320 It's the best way to be. 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.360 It's the best version to be, Like, don't try to 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.160 be someone else, Like as long as you're just being yourself, 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:47.320 that's the best way to be. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.280 And so I'm like an unidentify like you. 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:53.000 Don't have to be identified is one thing, like you 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.800 don't have to be like streetwear. I don't have to 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.520 be like Southern bell, like be you like that's just it. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.400 So I don't know. I like and I love the 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.280 name Jane Do. I feel like it's super. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.640 No, it's unique. And also a lot of your pieces 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.160 you can play off of them to make them whatever 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.920 you want. So there are reliable pieces that you can 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.440 just build on and make into whatever your style or 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:15.920 personality is exactly. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:16.679 That's the goal. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.040 That's that was Here we go Jane Doe. 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:21.680 Yeah, I love it. 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.480 Do you have any advice for girls going into rush 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:26.040 right now? 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:27.559 Yeah? For sure. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.160 I would say my biggest advice is just like keep 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.920 an open mind, like everyone says it, but don't go 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.080 a house because the person you met in rush was 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:39.880 going that house. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.840 Like that is just like not how it works. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.280 And my biggest thing is, like everyone everyone says this 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.160 is be yourself, but like you have to really like 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.760 like focus on that, because if you walk into a 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.120 house and you were trying to fit in, you will 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.760 spend the rest of your college experience feeling like you 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.480 don't fit it because during that process you were trying 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:08.760 to form into how this house particularly was instead just 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:12.240 like being yourself. Go into these houses like you want 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.520 them to accept you as. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.920 Who you are, so that the. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.400 Rest of your time just is way better that. That's 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:23.240 my advice is, don't listen to other people and just 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.640 be yourself and you will end exactly where you're supposed to. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.440 Even if your experience doesn't go exactly how you want, 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.800 stick it out and like it might be the best 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:34.240 thing that's. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:34.800 Ever happened to you. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:36.240 That's amazing. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:37.360 I love that, Riley. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:38.200 That's great advice. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:56.040 Hey Taylor, So where did you go to school? 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:02.080 I went to James Madison in Virginia. Were you in Yeah, 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.720 I was in THETA Okay cool. Did you have an 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:06.959 overall good experience? 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.000 Yeah? I loved it. I loved it. 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.400 I'd tell I met all my best friends, so I'd 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.280 say pretty good experience. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.760 Did you always know that you wanted to be in 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:18.479 a sorority? 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.800 Yeah, that was like one thing I was always very 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.720 confident in. I'm like super girly and was into everything 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:27.920 that came with a sorority. But I also kind of 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.760 jokingly said that I was like a bare minimum sorority 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.920 girl because I'd like make my friends, I love the community, 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:34.880 but like I didn't. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.160 Hold any leadership positions or I wasn't like the most 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:39.080 strict about it. 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:43.280 Like so I always joked that I enjoyed the friends 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:44.800 aspect and the bonds you made. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:50.240 But like, yeah, yeah, how did you start doing content? 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:51.920 Did you start when you were in school? 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:53.240 Yeah? 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:56.280 That's actually how I got my start was I was 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.400 a freshman at JAMU kind of during COVID, and I'd 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.199 post a ton of like what to pack for college, 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.800 like what I wore during rush, how to study, what 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:09.160 it's like being in a sorority, and like that college niche, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.040 and then kind of just expanded it. 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:12.000 To all things lifestyle. 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.080 But yeah, that's why've been in a sorority, And Jamie, 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.880 you had such a special place in my heart because 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.760 it kind of grew. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.239 My love for the social media world in that industry. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.800 But it's so interesting, like I feel like now how 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.880 much social media can play like an aspect in like 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.479 in literally like changing people's lives. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.080 And social media now on like your full time job. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.920 Yeah, right now it's my full time job and it's 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.120 like the best thing ever. 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:44.440 So that's amazing. So how do you think sorority rush 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.840 shaped you into being the person that you are today. 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:49.880 That's such a good question. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.280 I feel like it gave me good I would say, 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.079 like life skills, like people skills Like I feel like 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.560 so much of college is what you learn outside of 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:03.400 the class room, and I feel like it prepared me 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.000 for life after college better. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:10.600 Yea, So yeah, do you think that like rush talk 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.240 on like TikTok, do you think that has made it 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:18.800 like more competitive to get into a sorority? 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:20.280 Yeah? I think so. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.960 I feel like it depends on your college too, But 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:27.360 I definitely think social media like has blown it up 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.160 and also glamorize it a little bit. 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.080 And so, I mean, I had a great. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.800 Experience, but I can also see why it gets stereotyped 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.120 as maybe being stressful or like very clicky. Like I 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.839 could see why that would stress girls out as well, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.280 and just like competitive because so many girls want to 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:44.720 be in one. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:48.839 I totally agree. Did you know about your school's rush 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.520 process before starting? 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.920 Honestly, no, Like no, I had no idea like going 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:56.240 into it. 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:57.840 I knew it wasn't in the summer like in the 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.679 southern schools they're doing it like you go early for it. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.040 I knew it was like mine was the end of September, 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.559 so that was and we were doing on like two weekends, 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.240 and that was all I knew, so it wasn't as intense, 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.120 but they were still like full, like six am to 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.280 nine pm days each both weekends, so it was definitely 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.760 still intense. But I didn't really know what I was 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.040 getting into until I just already signed. 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:21.240 Up for it. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.480 On a rush talk, I feel like you see like 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.480 all like these videos and girls doing like get readies 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:30.480 with me and like what they're gonna wear. Do you 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.960 think there's any like lies like behind the rush talk 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.560 because I feel like you can't always talk about what's 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.040 like going on within your sorority because like the. 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:41.920 Rules and stuff. 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.040 Yeah, yeah, no, I feel like that's a huge part 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.720 of it. Like they make it very clear what topics 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:52.600 to avoid. I I can't remember exactly, but I want 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.720 to say it was like the Three Bees, like beer 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.440 boys and something else, like basically saying like you want 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.600 to keep it very pg, you don't want to talk 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:05.440 about anything too controversial, like during the recruitment process at least, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.600 But then I also think they wanted people, They wanted 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.920 the girls in the sorority to keep you know, a good, 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.200 clean social media presence too, because then that would impact 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.400 the sorority. But that was never an issue for me 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.000 because I feel like I was never the type to 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.800 like go posting all my alcohol or something like. 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:23.520 I wasn't like. 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:23.920 That at all. 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.080 But I definitely could see why some girls would be like, oh, 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.080 like this is off limits, or I don't know, there's 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.920 there's a fine line, or I remember during rush, they 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.320 all the people say like, don't bring up boys at all, 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.000 and one girl in the room brought up like her dad, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.720 and then she quickly's talking and was like nervous, but 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:43.720 it's like it's her dad, Like no one, no one 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:44.440 really cared. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.680 But there's definitely the overthinking part where you're like, oh, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.400 should I have just said that? Or am I going 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:51.160 to get in trouble? 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.800 Oh I totally understand that. How would you explain your 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.200 sorority experience to someone who's never been in one? 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:01.360 Good one? 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:03.600 That's such a good question. 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.760 I feel like I'd like the process or just being 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:07.920 in a sorority in general. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.840 I think all of it, you know, like if somebody 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.800 looked at you and was like, why should I join 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.360 a sorority or do you think this is the right decision, Like, 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:17.960 what would you say to that person? 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.000 I definitely I think I would encourage them to go 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.200 for it, just because the worst that could happen is 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:27.920 that you drop, Like if that's the worst that can happen. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.880 And I think it's a great way to give yourself 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.800 a community in college. And I especially think if you 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.920 go to like a bigger school too, it's really hard 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:38.960 to like find your people. And you know, there's like 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.800 the girls doing sports and then there's like theater in 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.080 the more musical industry. And so I felt like being 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.880 in a sorority kind of gave me that identity. And 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.240 I remember in high school feeling like I was one 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.800 of those girls that, like I was never really into sports, 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.560 but I also wasn't really into like music or theater. 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.000 But I always felt like I had this creative side. 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:03.280 And I remember thinking, like sority like life is perfect 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.680 because it's like it's social. You're also doing a lot 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:09.200 of like volunteer work, which I truly believe in. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:13.720 You're surrounding yourself with people with good values, and I. 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.920 Don't know, it's fun like the fast and like the outfits, 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.000 like they make decks on like what to wear and 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:18.880 like FASTO. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:20.680 It's like kind of creative and fun. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.880 So I'd encourage someone to go for it and if 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:25.760 they didn't like it, they could always leave it. 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:29.120 But I feel like I. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:33.320 Definitely think, at least from my school, it definitely gets 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.400 this like very intimidating aspect. But I found most of 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:40.000 the girls honest, honestly, like all were pretty nice and welcoming. 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:40.360 With open arms. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:58.880 So clearly went into college pretty young, right I did. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.160 I started calling really young. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:05.600 I graduated high school when I was fourteen, so I 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.880 had applied to CLA found out I got in just 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.720 shooting my shop with my dream school. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.760 It was either that or USC, just because I was 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:15.800 not going to move across the country at such a 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:16.320 young age. 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.399 But thank goodness, I ended up being a Bruin because 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.760 that's where my loyalty has always lied. But of course, 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.600 when I first started school, I was not thinking about 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.240 anything social, to say the least. I was still doing 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:32.520 all of the high school things with my friends and 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.680 just going to class like a normal high schooler would. 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.000 I mean, I wasn't even old enough to drive yet. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:39.720 Did you live at home? I did? 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.280 I lived at home, so I live about fifteen minutes 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.360 away from campus, but I had to get dropped off 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.920 at class in the morning and I picked up in 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:51.639 the afternoon. So it was a very strange experience to 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:52.320 say the least. 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.080 And so did you not DORM? 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.639 I didn't DORM. I remember telling my mom when the 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.600 first guy tried to hit on me after, I was. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.959 Like, Mom, he has facial hair. This is so weird. 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.680 Because of course, even though he was probably not that old, 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.879 he was like twenty or twenty one, which to me 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:13.680 was way too old at having just turned fifteen. 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:14.440 Yeah. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:15.640 I had just turned fifteen. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:20.200 Wow. So you graduated in high school at fourteen? Yeah, 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.800 and then you were you got into UCLA and you 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.280 were a freshman in college at fifteen years old. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:25.840 Yes. 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:27.320 Wow. 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:32.040 It was a very non traditional experience, to say the least. 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.280