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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush, The Truth about sorority life with

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Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Dirty Rush. We're continuing our conversation with

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Speaker 1: influencers who lived the sorority experience firsthand. We're back with

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Speaker 1: part three.

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Speaker 2: So nice to meet you. I'm Riley.

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Speaker 3: Nice to meet you. TG. It has been telling me

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Speaker 3: how amazing you are.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I know you went to Arizona, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: know you were in a sorority.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I loved it too.

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Speaker 3: Sorority were you in?

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Speaker 2: I was in Delta Zeta?

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Speaker 3: Very cool?

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Speaker 2: I graduated today, so like, yeah, youngrats, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so take the girls through your rush process. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure your outfits were insane, so let's hear all about it.

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Speaker 4: It was so crazy because I'm originally from Louisiana, so

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Speaker 4: rushing out there and like in the South is totally

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Speaker 4: different and like rushing is not everyone's vibe. That's like

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Speaker 4: for sure, and that's how I felt like in the South.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, absolutely not, Like I will not

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Speaker 4: be the Southern bell like screaming at the door like

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Speaker 4: that was just like not my vibe. And then I

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Speaker 4: went to Arizona and I was on a cheer team

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Speaker 4: like my entire life. So I was like, I have

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Speaker 4: to like I need some sense of like community, I

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Speaker 4: need my girls.

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Speaker 2: Like I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: What to do, especially like moving across the country to

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Speaker 4: go to college like I was eighteen. I had no

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Speaker 4: idea what I was doing. And yeah, I just like

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Speaker 4: embraced the process. I was like, whatever happens is going

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Speaker 4: to happen. One of the like sororities. There is like

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Speaker 4: top sorority like in the nation. And so I had

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Speaker 4: someone like in my life at the time was like

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Speaker 4: telling me all about that. I was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: you have to rush the sorority, like they're top in

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Speaker 4: the nation.

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Speaker 2: They're top at ASU. Like that was the vibe. So

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Speaker 2: I kind of like had that in the back of

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Speaker 4: And I remember just like walking into Delta Zeta and

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Speaker 4: Delta Zada was not the house she was talking about.

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Speaker 4: And I walked into Delta Zada and I was like

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Speaker 4: this is it. I had full body chills. I was

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Speaker 4: like like me, like no, like sorty.

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Speaker 5: Is not for me.

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Speaker 2: Like I was in there like crying, like and I

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, this.

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Speaker 6: Is my home, this is it for me.

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Speaker 4: And then ever since then, like I was like that's it,

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Speaker 4: Like I didn't listen to her, and like I remember

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Speaker 4: them saying, like you end up in the house like

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Speaker 4: to happen, even if like you don't if that's like

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Speaker 4: where you wanted to go in the first place. And

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Speaker 4: there was like time because like my my best friend

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Speaker 4: in my roommate went the house and like my second choice,

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Speaker 4: and there was so many times where I was like

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Speaker 2: Like I would like overthink it.

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Speaker 4: All the time, and as like the weeks went by,

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my gosh, like like everything's so clear.

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Speaker 4: I like went so I went to the right house.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it was like such a good experience.

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Speaker 3: I love that year and such a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So then would you recommend Rushing a sorority to girls

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Speaker 4: Oh for sure, Like it just brings that sense of

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Speaker 4: like home away from home.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 4: It's like everything that like so already say. It's like,

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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, everyone says that, but it's true. Like

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Speaker 4: when you find the right one, like you actually embrace

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Speaker 4: it and you don't like listen to like the people

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Speaker 4: that are like, oh my gosh, you're paying for friends

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Speaker 4: or like whatever else. It is like it's actually your

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Speaker 4: home away from home, Like it's the girls that will

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Speaker 4: literally be in your wedding one day. Like it's the

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Speaker 4: girls that are gonna be there when you go through

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Speaker 4: your breakup in like college and you think your life sober,

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Speaker 4: like they're like picking you up like that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: College is such like an intense time, so.

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Speaker 2: I would recommend it.

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Speaker 4: Like when I went through Rush and I saw the

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Speaker 4: girls in Daltha Zaida, I was like, this is.

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Speaker 2: Like I want to be just like them, like I

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Speaker 4: It was a situation where I was like I not

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Speaker 4: only can like see myself here and like being friends

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Speaker 4: with them, but like they're also like inspiring me. At

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Speaker 4: the same time, the girl like rushed like to the end,

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Speaker 4: like I was talking to like every day. Basically, She's

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Speaker 4: like what helps me is I look around. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: could I see my best friend that I had like

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Speaker 4: all throughout childhood or like my best friend in high school?

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Speaker 4: Like could I see them in this room like fitting

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Speaker 4: in and if your answer is yeah, and like that's

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Speaker 4: a really good sign. And I was like, yeah, like

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Speaker 4: my best friend would totally be in this room, so

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Speaker 4: I'd recommend it one million percent.

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Speaker 1: So then when did you start TikTok and starting like

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Speaker 1: when did you start social media?

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Speaker 4: I started social media my junior year of high school,

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Speaker 4: so I had been doing it for a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: But it really didn't play a part into me rushing

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Speaker 4: Like I in my heart and in my soul my body,

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Speaker 4: I didn't ever feel like social media was any like

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Speaker 2: It didn't separate me from people, like still to this.

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Speaker 4: Day, like when I talked to like followers of mine,

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Speaker 4: like all I can say is I'm just the same

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Speaker 4: as you, And that's all I've ever wanted to feel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's all I've ever wanted, like other people

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Speaker 4: So being in a sorority only made it more like

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Speaker 4: grounding for me, and like I would be going on

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Speaker 4: my sorority house and like all my story sisters are

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Speaker 4: like sitting there and like just doing normal college things.

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Speaker 2: So it really didn't play that big of a part

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Speaker 4: And I always people always say, like ASU is like

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Speaker 2: Like trying to be an influencer.

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Speaker 4: And so I guess maybe that like pluted into it

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Speaker 4: a little bit because I didn't feel different.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't feel different while you were rushing either.

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Speaker 6: Not at all.

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Speaker 3: Like was everyone who were around kind of like tiktoking

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure, Like I ticked off the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: I yeah, I was videoing everything, but no, never once

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Speaker 4: So I think that definitely plays into the part of like,

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Speaker 4: that's why my experience was probably so good, as they

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Speaker 4: made me feel like just the next person, which is

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Speaker 4: like how I want to be, Like that's how I

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Speaker 2: So it's yeah, not a problem at all.

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Speaker 1: And you also have your amazing clothing brand called Jane Doe.

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Speaker 1: When did you start that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I started that my sophomore year.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I honestly like I was with the guy, so

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Speaker 4: I met my boyfriend or my boyfriend at the time,

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Speaker 4: like the first day of college. He was the first

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Speaker 4: guy I ever like talked to, and we kind of

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Speaker 4: had like gone through some stuff, and there was spring break.

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Speaker 4: He like went off with his friends to Hawaii and

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Speaker 4: I was stuck in Arizona and I was like, oh

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Speaker 4: my gosh, I hate this, Like I need to like

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Speaker 4: boss up really quick.

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Speaker 2: So my mom was like, you need to come home.

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Speaker 2: She flew me home, and.

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Speaker 4: In one night, I had like a website, an LLC,

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Speaker 4: the name, like all of that, and it just like.

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Speaker 2: Started from there.

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Speaker 1: That's incredible, And wait, what's the why how did you

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Speaker 1: come up with the name Jane Doe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so my middle name is Jane, and so I

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Speaker 4: wanted to kind of plan to that.

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Speaker 2: And then a Jane Doe.

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Speaker 4: Is like a John Doe is like an unidentified person,

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Speaker 4: and Jane Doe was like the girl version of that.

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Speaker 4: And I just thought it was cool because I'm so

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Speaker 4: like I always say, like, be the be you.

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Speaker 2: It's the best way to be.

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Speaker 4: It's the best version to be, Like, don't try to

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Speaker 2: And so I'm like an unidentify like you.

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Speaker 4: Don't have to be identified is one thing, like you

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Speaker 4: don't have to be like streetwear. I don't have to

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Speaker 4: be like Southern bell, like be you like that's just it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I like and I love the

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Speaker 2: name Jane Do. I feel like it's super.

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Speaker 1: No, it's unique. And also a lot of your pieces

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Speaker 1: you can play off of them to make them whatever

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Speaker 2: That's the goal.

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Speaker 1: That's that was Here we go Jane Doe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any advice for girls going into rush

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure.

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Speaker 4: I would say my biggest advice is just like keep

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Speaker 2: Like that is just like not how it works.

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Speaker 4: And my biggest thing is, like everyone everyone says this

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Speaker 4: like focus on that, because if you walk into a

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Speaker 4: spend the rest of your college experience feeling like you

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Speaker 4: don't fit it because during that process you were trying

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Speaker 4: to form into how this house particularly was instead just

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Speaker 4: like being yourself. Go into these houses like you want

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Speaker 4: them to accept you as.

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Speaker 2: Who you are, so that the.

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Speaker 4: Rest of your time just is way better that. That's

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Speaker 4: my advice is, don't listen to other people and just

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Speaker 4: be yourself and you will end exactly where you're supposed to.

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Speaker 4: Even if your experience doesn't go exactly how you want,

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Speaker 4: stick it out and like it might be the best

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Speaker 2: Ever happened to you.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I love that, Riley.

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Speaker 6: That's great advice.

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Speaker 1: Hey Taylor, So where did you go to school?

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Speaker 7: I went to James Madison in Virginia. Were you in Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I was in THETA Okay cool. Did you have an

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Speaker 7: overall good experience?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I loved it. I loved it.

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Speaker 7: I'd tell I met all my best friends, so I'd

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Speaker 3: But like, yeah, yeah, how did you start doing content?

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Speaker 7: But yeah, that's why've been in a sorority, And Jamie,

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Speaker 1: So that's amazing. So how do you think sorority rush

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Speaker 6: Up for it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, I feel like that's a huge part

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Speaker 7: to say it was like the Three Bees, like beer

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Speaker 6: But there's definitely the overthinking part where you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Oh I totally understand that. How would you explain your

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Speaker 1: I think all of it, you know, like if somebody

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Speaker 7: I definitely I think I would encourage them to go

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Speaker 7: And I think it's a great way to give yourself

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Speaker 7: And I remember thinking, like sority like life is perfect

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Speaker 6: You're surrounding yourself with people with good values, and I.

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Speaker 8: I graduated high school when I was fourteen, so I

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Speaker 8: But thank goodness, I ended up being a Bruin because

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Speaker 5: I had just turned fifteen.

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Speaker 8: It was a very non traditional experience, to say the least.

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Speaker 3: Did you end up joining a sorority?

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Speaker 5: That I had to join.

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Speaker 8: It felt like I had a huge group of built

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Speaker 8: like I don't know how off the record I can go,

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Speaker 8: but I mean most girls had a fake id going

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Speaker 8: to college and it had like all of these experiences

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Speaker 8: with guys, and I was so new to all of

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Speaker 8: that territory. So it allowed for a lot of people

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Speaker 8: to take me under their wing and show me the

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Speaker 8: ropes of those kind of experiences that I didn't have

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Speaker 8: in high school because I graduated so young.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: So you really did have like such a good time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I had such a great time.

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Speaker 8: I rushed Alpha Fi, met a lot of my best

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Speaker 8: friends there who I still keep in touch with. A

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Speaker 8: couple of my close friends are still seniors and about

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Speaker 8: to graduate this year. And it was the best decision.

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Speaker 8: I'm so glad I did it, and I had a

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Speaker 8: really great experience in Greek life.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. And did you feel differently in any way,

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Speaker 1: because I know throughout your life you obviously have been

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Speaker 1: in a bunch of roles and you're in the acting world,

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Speaker 1: so you had some sort of a following going into college.

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Speaker 1: I mean, some of the things that you were in

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Speaker 1: are insane. I see clips of Good Doctor all the

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Speaker 1: time and I'm like, this is amazing. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: kudos to you. I know, the list goes on and

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Speaker 1: on and on from Chosen Young Sheldon, Criminal Minds like

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Speaker 1: it's insane. So kudos to you. But how did was that?

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Speaker 1: Did that affect your experience at all going into college

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Speaker 1: and especially being so young.

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Speaker 8: It was a little bit different having a sense of

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Speaker 8: responsibility and working. During my first year of school, I

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Speaker 8: definitely had to miss out on a handful of social

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Speaker 8: events to either prioritize an audition or I flew away

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Speaker 8: a couple of times to film something. But I was

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Speaker 8: very lucky to end up in a chapter where all

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Speaker 8: of the girls were super career driven, so we had

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Speaker 8: a lot of pre med students, girls on the dance team,

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Speaker 8: and people who also had this kind of bigger responsibility

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Speaker 8: outside of Greek life, so I never felt like punished

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Speaker 8: or shamed for miss things, and it was a very

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Speaker 8: supportive environment.

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Speaker 5: And then when you have friends who were striving on

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Speaker 5: their own.

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Speaker 8: Path and wanting to follow their dreams and being very

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Speaker 8: career oriented, and it makes you want to be busier

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Speaker 8: and better at the same time.

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Speaker 5: So that was a great environment for me at least.

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Speaker 8: But I guess like the only thing that I really

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Speaker 8: noticed about being younger than everyone else was just I

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Speaker 8: guess more in like mixers with the frat environments. So

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Speaker 8: even though I was seventeen, definitely called jailbait a lot

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Speaker 8: of times, which is so fair. I'm glad that they

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Speaker 8: didn't want to talk to me because I didn't really

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Speaker 8: have any interest, so but besides that made a lot

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Speaker 8: of great friends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, but I'm also sure like the experience throughout your life,

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Speaker 1: just like graduating high school so early and going into

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Speaker 1: that college environment so young, you were probably also extremely

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Speaker 1: mature for your age, especially being so career driven, like

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Speaker 1: you were probably a thirty year old living in a

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Speaker 1: seventeen year old body. Like really like the mentality wise,

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Speaker 1: and I always got that too growing up because I

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Speaker 1: had to grow up a little fast than most kids

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Speaker 1: as well, and it really like it probably it made

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Speaker 1: you who you are today. So everything happens for a reason,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, this is why you're getting your

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Speaker 1: masters now at UCLA, so that's amazing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely had a unique perspective. So I could

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Speaker 8: say that I had accomplished certain things or been working

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Speaker 8: a quote unquote full time job my whole life, but

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Speaker 8: I was like, oh, I've never taken a shot of alcohol,

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Speaker 8: on the other hand, So it was fun to kind

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Speaker 8: of find that balance and experiences as my friends as

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Speaker 8: I got older and meshing my like social age and

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Speaker 8: professional age at the same time, which and that was fun.

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Speaker 1: That is great.

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Speaker 3: Well, Caitlin thank you so much for coming on, and.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Best of luck, Thanks Bice,