1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty six, 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: episode two of Day Guys production of My Heart Radio. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: into america shared consciousness. I'm gonna try and keep us 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: throat bubble doing. Let's just run with it. Uh, it's 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: it's Tuesday, December six, well six, because it's a World 7 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Trick Shot Day and you're about to hit one with 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: that bubble that went for like sixty seconds. Also St. 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Nicholas Day, National Miner's Day, like you've got their mining, 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: National microwave Up and day, National Gusto Day. You know, 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: super burned. My lips was room temperature if you're cold. 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, although look I'm gonna be realized. I prefer 13 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: seb hero first. That's just okay. Look I was just 14 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: in Spain, you know what I mean? So look yeah, yeah, 15 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a k eggnogg. 16 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: It's the main drink in our house, eggnogg. Feeling vis 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: guess in my mouth eggnog. Oh, so milky and so 18 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: sweet eggnog. That spice flavor can't be beat. That is 19 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: courtesy h left the name off the son of a bitch. 20 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: It was our house chorus by Madness, which I thought 21 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: that was by the fucking talking heads. I'm a dumb 22 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: dumb anyways, I will find out who you are, you 23 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: brilliant Prince of Maine. But before the show, actually Wild 24 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: Miles does his AKA, I'll go find hey. Speaking of 25 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Wild Miles does, I'm thrilled to be joined as always 26 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: by my co host, Mr Miles Gray all AROUNDO. Well, 27 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: we can drink that knog sipping into different like scotch 28 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: from the bognog poor, not with sweet milky goodness. I 29 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: drink it all day. But that's done to your business. 30 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: I know, I know for show that all this eggnog 31 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: will surely kill me soon. I know, I know it's true. 32 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Give me more of that sweet eggy. Okay. Shout out 33 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: to Pat on the discord h R h C p 34 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: K and then made it eggnog. So I appreciate that fusion. 35 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: I bet I bet CPK has some eggnog offerings. Um 36 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: Mine was from Josiah on Twitter. J O z A 37 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: I y a okay, okaut out to you friends, Miles 38 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: so to ego and you do funk without ego when 39 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: you were out and so I was out numbered. It's 40 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: good to be with my eggnog brethren. What happened? No, 41 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: you were out when when we talked about eggnog, and 42 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: I think the co host, Matt Leave and the guests 43 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: were like, it's fucking gross, it's disgusting. I mean, I'm 44 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: not out here being like it's objectively fantastic. I'm just saying, 45 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: do I get down? Yeah? Yeah, And I don't care 46 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: if you judge me. I'm just I'm living my own 47 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's bad, Like I I guess that it's 48 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: objectively bad. It's just a badness that is too good 49 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: for me to pass up. Yeah. I just think of 50 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: it as melted ice cream. That's how I thought of it. 51 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: That's exact. And then I just and then I think 52 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: also too, of my family, Like my grandfather used to 53 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: make like that was a thing. He would always make 54 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: the egg nog at the house and I would just 55 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: drink it up and then like I had coquito, And 56 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: then I was like, man, we're all thinking the right things. 57 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: We're all in the same place, same page. Well, Miles, 58 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat 59 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: by the host of a brilliant new podcast When You're Invisible. 60 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: The interviews people in the working class, many of whom 61 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: have never been interviewed before because they're in the gas 62 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: working class in America. America doesn't like to admit we 63 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: have one of those. I've heard of these people in 64 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: the New York Times, the New York Times. Yeah, they 65 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: all exist in the suburbs of Pittsburgh. They work in 66 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: a steel mill, and this is it's okay that they 67 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: hate immigrants. That's right. She's from the first class of 68 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: the Next Up Fellowship created by superproducer Around Josy. Please 69 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: welcome the brilliant, the talented Maria Fernando. Hey, what's up 70 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: having me? Thank you for being here. I thought you 71 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: squirming a little bit. Are you an eggnog? Like it's 72 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: just holiday season to me? I mean, like Latinos really 73 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: do it up during the holidays, so it's like egg 74 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: it's everything that's like a holiday drink and like also 75 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: melted ice cream. That makes complete sense and exactly how 76 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: I thought of it, like where I had it. I'm 77 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: like my holiday punch when I was a kid. This 78 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: was like the first thing that I ever made, was 79 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: like I think I made it when I was like 80 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: seven or eight for a holiday party we were having 81 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: in our house, and it was now get ready, because 82 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: this is pretty complicated. It was first of all, your 83 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: parents were like, Jack, would you like to make a 84 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: punch for the party later? Is that kind of how 85 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: this happened. I found a children's cookbook at the guy 86 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: at the library, and I was like, this is my ship. 87 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: Get ready, motherfucker's about And it was sprite. It's a 88 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: bit like a whole two gallon of sprite, uh gallon 89 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: of orange juice, and then just a whole tub of 90 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Briars vanilla ice cream. You just jumped that ship in 91 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: there like an iceberg and it just kind of cooked 92 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: at the top and like made milky bubbles, and it 93 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: was better than you might expect, probably like one of 94 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: those like orange cream sickles. Yeah, it was like an 95 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: orange cream sickle, ye, but I was very proud, just 96 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: like the punch version though, like I'm imagining it swimming 97 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: in a bowl, not in individual cups right now. Yeah. 98 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: It was good until it got flat and then it 99 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: wasn't as good. And that was like within the minute 100 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: because you're pouring a whole twenty gallon or a two 101 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: gallon of spray into a punch bowl, so it gets 102 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: loses the fizz quickly and the face starts curdling that 103 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: cream a little bit. Yeah, there's a little curdel going 104 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: on that we don't talk about in this household. But 105 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: are you where are you right now? Um? I'm right 106 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: now in Atlanta, Georgia. Actually Georgia. Is that where you've 107 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: you've is that like your home? Where's where did you 108 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: get to Atlanta? Are you from Atlanta? No? So my 109 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: parents actually moved here like six years ago from the 110 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: Twin Cities, and so I've fun fact, I haven't had 111 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: a home base since February because like one, rent is 112 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: too damn high in New York City, it turns out. Yeah, 113 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: so I had to do a few like work trips 114 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: and stuff like that for different things. So I was like, 115 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna be really really lucky 116 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: and blessed and be able to hop around and you know, 117 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: still having lived in New York City for ten years, like, 118 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends there. So whenever I 119 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: have to go back to the city right now, I'll 120 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: just stay with folks. And then like have had to 121 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: come out to Atlanta, a couple of times, and my 122 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: parents are here, so then I'm like to chill with 123 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: you guys and then travel a great place to travel from, huge, 124 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: huge airport, right, Yeah, it's huge. It's insane, it's huge. Yeah. No, 125 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: it was crazy because when I was coming from Mexico 126 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: visiting my family with my grandmother, Like we were coming 127 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: back from my brother's wedding, and we had to walk 128 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 1: like forty minutes in the terminal together to get from 129 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: the gate too of customs, And I'm like, this is 130 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: an eighty six year old a workout. Yeah, those those 131 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: cards that carry the older folks around are well earned 132 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: in many in many, yeah, because it's it's like a 133 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: just a villainous amount like distance to travel, like even 134 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: like with one bag, I'm like, oh, my knee, I 135 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: had to walk like a three quarters of a mile 136 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: And what's that? What's Atlanta like when it comes to 137 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: the holidays? Are they are they doing it up right? 138 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: I've actually never really thought about other than the relationship 139 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: between you know, Santa Claus being a property of Coca 140 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: Cola and Coca Cola running the city of Atlanta. M 141 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: Is it pretty christmas e down there? How you feel 142 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: it's fairly Christmas e. They also have their own like 143 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: peach drop, which is like their ball drop, so they 144 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: like it's a thing out here. So yeah, it's it's keyte. 145 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: Everybody's got like the decorations up and and whatnot, so 146 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: it's cute. All right. Well, we're going to get to 147 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First, 148 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the stories 149 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're going to talk about the massive 150 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: bombshell that wasn't over the weekend on Twitter. Oh it 151 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: was Jack, don't do that now, I mean okay, yeah, 152 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: and said bombshell it bombshell. Hey, we report, you decide. 153 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: We'll tell you what what happened if our constitutional rights 154 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: were violated. Yes, yeah, Trump wants to overturn the election 155 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: based on what was revealed. So we're gonna talk about that. 156 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: We are gonna talk to you more to go about 157 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: when you're invisible and just class in America. What you've 158 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: discovered kind of in in making that podcast. Before we 159 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: get to any of that, Maria, we like to ask 160 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: our guests, what is something from your search history? So 161 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: my search history recently has included a lot from like 162 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Black Panther, Wakonda Forever, and all the Easter Eggs because 163 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: I just watched it with my cousin who recently moved 164 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: to the US, like literally new fresh off the plane 165 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: week one, and so he was like, yeah, I'll go 166 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: to like a movie theater because it's comforting. It's what 167 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: you would do in Mexico for fun. So we watched 168 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: Waconda Forever. And now I'm like trying to funnel the 169 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Easter eggs and learn more. I've not delved into the 170 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: Easter eggs yet. I haven't. I haven't gone to the 171 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: theater by my house, like rotated it out for something 172 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: else very suddenly, and I was like what this. Yeah, 173 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: so now I'm not to go to like a bigger theater. 174 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: I like to go like my local because it's smaller. 175 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: But like you know, I'm going to venture out there 176 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: because it's that's like my first theater, my next theater 177 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: movie I'm going to. But you liked it. Though you 178 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: liked the movie, did I think like that it's very 179 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: much like sad Waconda As people were saying, like there's 180 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of it's like it's it's both like a 181 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: lot of action and your typical like Marvel, and then 182 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like choiter undertones and just like 183 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: sensely sad, but I also like freaking love that like 184 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: they're speaking Mayan in the film, like it's freaking cool 185 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: and so like I just like I didn't know much 186 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: about No More and then I was just been like 187 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: he's really awesome, and now I want to explore what 188 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: worlds he comes from and that kind of thing at 189 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: the comics. Now, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna dive into 190 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: the comics, which I'm like, I've read some, but I'm 191 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: not like a huge sure sure, but enough to be like, 192 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: oh I'll look and I'll look a little bit for sure. Yeah, yeah, 193 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: for sure. What is something you think is overrated? Voice memos? 194 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if, like for me, like voice memos 195 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: feel really overrated, like unless it's just like a sweet 196 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: like hey, think of you, or just gonna like say 197 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,359 Speaker 1: something stupid and fun. If we're having a whole conversation 198 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: over voice memos, it's freaking hard to keep track for me, 199 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: and then I can't go back in reference. Yeah, just 200 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: call me, like I'm like, either text me or just 201 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: call me, like I want one or the other. But 202 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: between is this happen when I have voice voice memos? 203 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: It used to happen in two ways. On my message, 204 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Like on your phone, people send voice notes. That's usually 205 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: how drug dealers talk to each other, so there's no 206 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: real texts. You just send these ethereal voice notes to 207 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, disappear to coordinate things. Yes, and then but 208 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: then I also have a version where like I talked 209 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: to people that live abroad on WhatsApp, and all that 210 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: is straight voice memo conversations from people, especially like I know, 211 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: like there are people I talk to like Costa Rica 212 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: or like Africa and stuff, and they just hit you 213 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: with a two minute and a half voice memo and 214 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's like it's like, 215 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: for example, for us like being like Mexican and then 216 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: having a lot of Latin American friends, and like also, 217 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: like my French sister was like, here's the three different 218 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: voice memos back to back, which are each like three 219 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: minute long things, and I'm just like, oh my god, 220 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: Like I love it, and I'm glad that WhatsApp at 221 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: least I can go back and listen to it. But 222 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: there's still no mode to like fast forward. Yeah, and 223 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: I'm like, so if I've listened and then I had 224 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: to pause, and then it closes for some reason, and 225 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: with eye message, just like the moment you pause it, 226 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: it starts back from the beginning, right, So then you're 227 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: a little podcast made for you. When I get into like, 228 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: it is hard because when you're abroad right the time zones, 229 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: you don't know if you're gonna actually call each other 230 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: on the phone. So I understand the impulse to be like, 231 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: let me send you my voice and then you send 232 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: your voice back, so then it kind of feels like 233 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: we're just connecting a little bit deeper than text. But 234 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: when I got married, I had a cousin send me 235 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: a no joke, a seven minute voice message about my wedding, 236 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, uh like like and that. I'm like, 237 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: that's both really sweet and dearing, and I'm glad you 238 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: have it now. But then I'm also like, yeah, I've 239 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: gotten twelve minute ones before, and I'm like, I love it, 240 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: I really do. But when I have then also what's 241 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: ridiculous is when you go back and forth and you're like, 242 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: we're clearly in this chat at the same time, we're 243 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: clearly here together. Let's use the terrible phone function on 244 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: it instead. Yeah, is the phone function terrible on? Like 245 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: what that's like a bit of a delay? Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 246 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: It's also bad when like if you said a voice 247 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: memo or if you're getting a voice memo and it 248 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: transcribes for you and they've gotten good at transcribing, so 249 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: like that they're getting the words right. But like, I've 250 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: never felt stupider than like seeing my words transcribed because 251 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: there's pauses, there's uh like just like what is happening this? 252 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: I would rather have just texted this straight had the 253 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: delete function than Yeah. There's always a chance he'll be transcribed, 254 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: and that's not good for anyone usually unless you speak 255 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: in complete sentences like some sort of freak. What is 256 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Oh? How incredible? Like YouTube 257 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: is for exposing languages to like the next generation. Like 258 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: I have students and like inner city kids who know 259 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: Japanese because they're watching anime. And I'm just like, wait, 260 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: you're learning a whole language from anime and they're like yeah, 261 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: and then they're like yeah, And then I just started 262 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: researching more or I started looking up more anime and 263 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: just have been picking things up and so and they'll 264 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: just like start talking to each other conversational Japanese. I 265 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: mean that makes sense in the wrong era. Yeah, it 266 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: makes sense right, because you often hear so many people say, well, 267 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: I learned this language from watching TV, or like I 268 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: learned English from watching from yeah, watching American TV. But 269 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: this gives everybody cross border access for the most part, 270 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: unless Disneys on it or something there's a Disney song 271 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, and so you you just have borderless 272 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: access to any TV show around the world. So that's 273 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: that is cool. I hadn't thought about that. What what 274 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: ages are you teaching? I teach like all ages. My 275 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: youngest is six, and my oldest actually teach adult learners 276 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: Spanish as well, so my oldest is fifty three. But 277 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I mostly teach middle school and high schoolers. But then 278 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: I also my friend and I started a mentorship program 279 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: in Chicago on the South Side, and we like go 280 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: talk to kids and help them with like school, and 281 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: then introduce them to community members out in Chicago to 282 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: be like, yo, this is what you can do, or 283 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: if you have any questions like me, and they're all 284 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: like fourth, fifth, and third graders, so they're pretty wonderful, 285 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: but speaking Japanese at a sixth grade level, yeah, and 286 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm just like what how, Yeah, it's so man. It 287 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: as like being half black and half Japanese. It was 288 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: never cool for me to be speaking Japanese around black 289 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: people like it too, like the last five years and 290 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: people like yo, you funk with animal Like no, I 291 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: mean I did when I was a child, but that 292 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: got roasted out of me very quickly from cousins. And 293 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: then I'm like, it's so funny to watch now the 294 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: like this true embrace of like anime, especially with like yeah, 295 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: like young black kids and just and even like even 296 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: my age, like the amount of like the black anime 297 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: nerds that they're out here. Yeah. I remember like in 298 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: high school when it was just like the Anime club 299 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: was right and it was like five people, right because 300 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: I look at like, you know, like we had the 301 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: public defense under allowing me a lurn on and her 302 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: whole like her whole apartment is like anime like art 303 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: that she has, like she's got vegetas and like all 304 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff like on the one like damn, look 305 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: and everybody's working with anime. Yeah, what's the what's the 306 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: cool like show with with kids these days? Oh, it's 307 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: kind of it's all over, Like they really like some 308 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: of them. For my kids, at least, they recently discovered 309 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: Naruto and they're like, do you know this show? It's 310 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: ancient and yeah, yeah, yeah, they're just like and so 311 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: it's like funny to watch them oscillate. I'm trying to 312 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: remember what else was recently in the air, but that's 313 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, they're just like, oh my god, this 314 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: next thing. And like also just like Naruto, that was 315 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: like hilarious that like, ah, yes, the thing that I 316 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: contract that literally was not popular during my time, as 317 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: in like not cool to like, and now everybody has 318 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: to know it. Do you know it? Yeah? I mean 319 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: the idea of an anime club is even foreign to me, 320 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: but that's that's because I'm old as fuck. But yeah, 321 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: they asked me to be in the animal club in 322 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: high school. I was like, no, man, I'm good. You're like, 323 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, now I'm smoking weed after school. Many y'all 324 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: can talk about anime, but that's do you right? Right, 325 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come 326 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: back and we'll talk about Twitter and why the election man, Yeah, 327 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: we're still talking about the election should be overturned according 328 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump, and we're back. And yeah, Elon Musk 329 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: was putting in work for the Republicans and for Trump 330 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: this weekend being like, well, big big bombshell coming and 331 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna find out all the all the ship 332 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: that like Twitter was trying to hide from you that 333 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: what really went down in this last election and the 334 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: so the thing is basically revolves around Hunter Biden's dick. 335 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: That's yeah, if you distill it down to its essentials, 336 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: this really revolves around quite literally Hunter Biden's dick essentially, right, 337 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: Like Matt Tayebe like put this whole thread out that 338 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: like expose how Twitter was violating the First Amendment. That 339 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,959 Speaker 1: was like the thrust of like what like what the 340 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: revelations were from this thread and essentially the Biden campaign 341 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: during the like the election asked Twitter to, you know, 342 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: refrain from posting certain things from the Hunter Biden laptop 343 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: scandal because they're like some of it's just the lations 344 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: don't even make sense. Twitter obliged, and now they're right, 345 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: is like this is proof positive that the Biden administration 346 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: was abusing its powers to violate free speech, and every 347 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: first off, everyone's like, sir, he was candidate by it, 348 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: and he was not the government, so he wasn't violating anything. 349 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: And also there's Twitter, we went over We go over 350 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: this all the time with private companies, so fine, keep 351 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: saying that. But like a couple of things the other 352 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: aside from him not being president, it's like it's the 353 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: material that makes this story like just so stupid, And 354 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: you're like, why are these people so obsessed with him? 355 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: Really the thing that they didn't want them to post, 356 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: Like you're saying, Jack, who's pictures of a naked Hunter 357 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: Biden in bed? Like and you can see his his genitals, Okay, 358 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: And the Republicans are like, oh man, they needed to 359 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: see that. They needed to see this boy's packing meat. 360 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: And that's what they felt like, doesn't have a good 361 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: when that ship came out. That was like the on 362 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: I remember in the election. They're like, man, these laptop 363 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: photos are like they definitely an't hurting Hunter Biden. I mean, 364 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, I guess beyond the like them 365 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: trying to humiliate him, is it just it's just the 366 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: act of him trying to hold it back. They're just 367 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: like nothing that would have been revealed as different than 368 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: what we know. Like, you know, there's been like sex 369 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: tapes from Hunter Biden like that have been leaked and 370 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: stuff those kinds of stuff and don't like it's clear 371 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is not some saint, but his story is 372 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: like very relatable. You know, like people know somebody or 373 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: have people in their family who are probably like struggling 374 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: with substance abuse or some emotional troubles and you know, 375 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: like and like a lot of people are like, oh, ship, 376 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: that's that's gotta be tough. There was that one remember 377 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: there's like that one voicemail we heard where Joe Biden 378 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I love your son, like I don't, 379 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what, and like the right was like, oh, 380 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: look at Joe Biden given a funk about his son 381 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: or something, and it's like what what like what do 382 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: you think the damaging information is? Because the thing that 383 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: they don't have is some email He's like, hey Dad, 384 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: it's me Hunter Biden. I'm going to do a corrupt 385 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: deal in Ukraine. Can you bail me out with your influence? XO? Hunter? 386 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: Like that's that doesn't exist and if it did, it 387 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: probably would have come out because if you remember, like 388 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani had this fucking laptop for like ages before 389 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: a lot of these stories came out. So it's like, okay, 390 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: so what like where what are y'all doing? Are you 391 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: just obsessed with this man's like naked body or like 392 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: because you're so like your distillation of manhood. It really 393 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: does come down to like your genitalia sites. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, 394 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: I think it's all that if there was a Donald 395 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: Trump Jr. Laptop right that he had held back because 396 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: there is just like loads of compromising footage on it. 397 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I I guess I am 398 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: always curious, like what if the shoes on the other foot, 399 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: I guess, I think, but like not at a at 400 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: a state where it's like impeachment, he deserves to no 401 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: longer be in office. No, I think they both. Yeah, 402 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: even Democrats would love to humiliate someone in the Trump 403 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: family for sure, But I think it falls short of 404 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: like the logic being and that's why the election used 405 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: to be overturned is a bit of a stretch because 406 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: you know, now what from what we've heard from a 407 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans, like inquiries into Hunter Biden is going 408 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: to be like a bulk of the work that that 409 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: the that they're going to be doing in this new 410 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: Congress next year. I guess what the mainstream media would 411 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: have done is like found documents and been like this 412 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: could have been him trying to fix the election and 413 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: like setting up a call with Putin. So like the 414 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: mainstream media and Democrats would have like fabricated boring ship. 415 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: Whereas they're just the the right just wants to wants 416 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: the sex tapes because they're just they're here for the 417 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: straight up humiliation. I mean, that's it seems like a 418 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: bunch of them are into that behind closed doors anyway, 419 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: so you know, or out there on the open yeah, 420 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: you know. But this is again they feel that this 421 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: is a winner. They must think, like just to use 422 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: all this political capital to like they must think that 423 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, being like far from perfect and a flawed human, 424 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: is going to bring down like the Biden administration and 425 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: run for Democrats in general. I don't know, That's what 426 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm like. I'm not sure what they're going to produce 427 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: that arrives to the level that they think this is 428 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: going to like move Heaven and Earth. But I guess 429 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: when you look at how their followers are reacting, they're 430 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: all like of the same mind. They're like, oh my god, 431 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: are you serious? They really suppressed dick picks on Twitter? Right? 432 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: This ship is an ugly, ugly thing? Yeah? Did they? 433 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: Because there there was controversy over like in New York 434 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: Post headline that Twitter had like may be suppressed or 435 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: Facebook had may be suppressed. But like there, that doesn't 436 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: seem to be the focus here. It's not like they 437 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: are the scale. They remember there was that like story 438 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: where the New York Post was reporting on the laptop 439 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: and the headline was being suppressed on Facebook or that 440 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: was like an am the New York Post. Yeah yeah, yeah, 441 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: well did this shed light on that? Like because it 442 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: was stuff out of there and like, but although emails 443 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: also showed that the Trump campaign asked Twitter to not 444 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: like post stuff too or or like like you know, 445 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: keep stuff down too, So it's like so when you 446 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: read it, really you're going to either be like okay, 447 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: so Twitter has a moderation team that would listen to 448 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: like requests from a presidential campaign, and also they didn't 449 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: want to post Hunter Biden's dick all over the place, 450 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Like that's really what. Also, I feel like too, there's 451 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: so many skeletons in so many people's closets that like 452 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: get suppressed all the time like that. It's it's kind 453 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: of just like one of those things. It's like, okay, 454 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: the one select thing and on. Like also just like 455 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: to obsess over I mean understandably like Twitter, but also 456 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: like it's just one place. I'm like, it's just like 457 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's overblown. Yeah, well, I think 458 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: in this sense, there's just like in who is it? 459 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: I think in like The New Republic, Michael Tomasky was 460 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: really like there's who's like trying to understand, Like I 461 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: don't know why they're obsessed, Like is it because of 462 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: his his penis? Like is that truly? Like they saw 463 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: it and they're like they have to like and then 464 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: suddenly they're they're so yeah, Like the total lack of 465 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: self awareness is like we got to talk about that. 466 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but we got to. Wow, it's unnatural, right, 467 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: it's not good now. It also just feels like a 468 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: little bit of a brunch session to me, Like I'm 469 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: like between girls, like you might be like hey, like, 470 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: oh my god, this person, or like, can I tell 471 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: you about my boyfriend and the anatomy? But I'm like, 472 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: why why do we have to monthly smoke weed every time? 473 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: Don't saying sex in the city, but like, but that's again. 474 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: So this transitions into the reaction of Donald Trump, who 475 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: then got on Kirkland's signature Twitter and decided to scream 476 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: on whatever his app is. And this is he tried 477 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: to get another pseudo cou going. He said. Quote. So, 478 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: with the revelation of massive and widespread fraud and deception 479 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: and working closely with big tech companies, the d n 480 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: C and the Democrat Party, do you throw the presidential 481 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: election results of out and declare the rightful winner? Or 482 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: do you have a new election? A massive fraud? A 483 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: massive fraud. If this type of magnitude allows for the 484 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: termination of all rules, regulations and articles, even those found 485 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: in the Constitution, are great founders. When he starts doing 486 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: legal language, oh yeah, allows for the termination of all rules, 487 00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: regulations and article articles two for and under the intiples 488 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: of so forth, it sounds like that. It reminds me 489 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: of that one Jaden and Willow Smith article that came 490 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: out like a few years ago when they were like, yo, 491 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: what are these teenagers talking about? When they were like, 492 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: if you think about like the metaphysical, they're like, these 493 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: are teenagers that are around like too many, like pseudo 494 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: intellectual people at dinner parties, and they're just regurgitating ship. 495 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: That's like Trump's legally is like here forth with injury 496 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: regards to this article must be suppressed. And then are 497 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: great founders did not want and would not condone false 498 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: and fraudulent elections. Yeah, which he capitalized. Try Tom, false 499 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: and fraudulent elections. TM. That's only for me. I own 500 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: that ship. Yeah, I think. Look, I agree the Consolution 501 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Constitution should be nuked and made into something that actually 502 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: reflects the values of our present day. But that's because 503 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: the vagueness is open to racist or you know, misogynistic 504 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: interpretation constantly, not because it prevented people on Twitter from 505 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: seeing Hunter Biden's dick, so unless but again, to each 506 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: their own. He must have think I thought that if 507 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: that had come out, or the whole story had come out, 508 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: that somehow things would change. But you know, it's just 509 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,959 Speaker 1: it's really are a stretch, very very far. But again, 510 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: Republicans are very They're like, no one's really saying anything 511 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: about this one. They're just like, so, do you are 512 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: you on board with this presidential candidate who said fuck 513 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: the Constitution it means nothing, and not like in a 514 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: revolutionary way that was like for the betterment of people. 515 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: Like he's just saying, like, get rid of it because 516 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: it's getting in the way of like me doing whatever 517 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: the funk I want. And they're like it's troubling, and 518 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: most people just have like not even said anything. It 519 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: does remind me of the Republicans obsession with Bill Clinton 520 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: and like they there are plenty of things that you 521 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: could have like found him wanting as a president for, 522 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: but they just couldn't get past him being like, you know, 523 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: a sexually promiscuous, like creepy dude and like just kind 524 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: of misjudged the room and like put all their chips on, like, well, 525 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: this guy is a creep and let's just focus on 526 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: the sexual details of his life. And obviously in that 527 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: case it was like predatory and all sorts of fucked up. 528 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: But it's it was like they can't get over their 529 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: own like sexual obsessions when it comes to public figures 530 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: that they're trying to take down right, and in general 531 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: it seems to like with their policies that they're like, oh, 532 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: everything's a deviation from the norm. But again, I think 533 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: he's just funning. You see Trump, like when he starts panicking, 534 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: like when it looks because this looks like panic, let's 535 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: be real, it's not because he's like, I honestly I 536 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: believe it. That's what we need to do. He's like, fuck, please, 537 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the newest last week 538 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: because the House has my tax returns, or I don't 539 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: know if you read the thing about how the moral 540 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: lago like documents case, like though judge was helping me out, 541 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: got straight a windmilled on by other judges high and 542 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: higher courts. So that's not looking good. And I'm like, yo, 543 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: just don't want this man hasn't even come close to 544 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: ever seen consequences. So part of me's like, daddy, chill. 545 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: You know, most science point to nobody doing a fucking 546 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: thing about it, right, right, But like he also thrives 547 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: on the drama, like he kind of just like it's 548 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: that that obsession of like I got to be in 549 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: the center, and also like if if I don't get 550 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: to panic and be self righteous. Then what do I 551 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: get to be? Right? Yeah, well, at least you know, 552 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: after he a lot all of his Canadas didn't do 553 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: well in the mid terms, everyone was like, the Republicans 554 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: Trump days are behind them, they're going to ditch this guy. 555 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: So they're probably all pushing back, right, They're like, come on, man, 556 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: this is irrational and you're you've been aligning yourself with 557 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: anti semit anti semitism. Let's let's pump the brakes on 558 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: this Donald stop talking. Right then Lindsay Graham came through 559 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: with the statement. Some people were like, oh, that's that's 560 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: that's not good. Like the most someone said was like, 561 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I do not agree with the sentiment of that statement 562 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: at all, and I would not condone that. But it 563 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: was far short of like, man, that's disqualifying, because no, 564 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: because that's again they're like to be humiliated in public, 565 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: where they would be like, y'all know that's bad. Now 566 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: do you want to put the boot all the way 567 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: down your mouth right now? When I ask you for 568 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: a quote? They're like, yeah, you're like, there you go, 569 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: snack on that. There you go. Alright, let's take a 570 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: quick break here and when we come back, But yeah, 571 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: we are going to talk to you about your podcast 572 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: When You're Invisible and just all the interesting insights about 573 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: class in America and life in general that we found 574 00:33:53,040 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: in there. So we'll be right back and we're back, 575 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: and let's talk about your podcast. Mary. Let's talk about 576 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 1: When You're Invisible, because your first episode dropped last week. 577 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: I think I did it did an episode two just 578 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: dropped today yesterday. So in your first interview, in your 579 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: first episode, you interviewed someone named Ralph who works at 580 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: an Ivy League package center and it's Columbia University. You 581 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: went to Columbia, That's how you kind of met him, 582 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: and he talks about growing up in Washington Heights and 583 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: then like coming to this Ivy League campus with its 584 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: like beautifully manicured lawns and old buildings, and I think 585 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: he said something like why why didn't I even know 586 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: that this existed? Where was this? But you specifically use 587 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: the phrase working class in the intro to When You're Invisible, 588 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: and you know, like I mentioned, top, America has this 589 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: pervasive myth that class doesn't exist because you're always just 590 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: like one break away from being a millionaire. And I 591 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: think I think an idea that your first couple episodes 592 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: get at is that you know that that is not true, 593 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: and also like it when you are in the working class, 594 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: a lot of times people treat you as if you're invisible, 595 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: and like some of the behaviors that they described. I 596 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: think it was the guest of the second episode was 597 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: talking about like a girl not getting the package she wanted, 598 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: a student at Columbia not getting the package she wanted 599 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible and just laying on the ground, 600 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: plugging her ears and like screaming at the top of 601 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,479 Speaker 1: her lungs until just being like la la, yeah, yeah, 602 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: I know. Their stories are insane, Like even one that 603 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: we didn't get to include for Ralph was like he 604 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: was like, there's these turnstiles to get into the building 605 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: from the street where the package center is, and it's 606 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: the big turns was like the full body bar one 607 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: and apparently there's a student who started going in the 608 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: opposite direction and the bars weren't moving because there's only 609 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: one that like you push and you go through the 610 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: open hole, but the other side is just bar bar 611 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: bar bar bar. So she like gets to the bars 612 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 1: is noticing it's not moving. Starts sticking her arms through 613 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: it to try and see if she can like somehow 614 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: finago getting in. You're talking about the fixed side of 615 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: a ro underneath the other metal bars, Yes, exactly. She 616 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: and he like he's like watching her and he goes, 617 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: excuse me other side, and she like but he was 618 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,919 Speaker 1: like she full on committed, like had gotten like one 619 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: full arm like trying to get through. That sounds like 620 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: me when I'm too high thought to be fair, like 621 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: just like coming to a thing being laser focused on, 622 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 1: like okay, there must be some trap, right, and I 623 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: think it's like that laser focus, that commitment. But like 624 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: and Ralph even says that he's like, you know, she 625 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: might just cure cancer with that level of energy. It's 626 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: just like didn't didn't translate into like everyday things or 627 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: just like yeah, the little things in which, like they 628 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: would often say, it's like they'd often get a student 629 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: who would be like what what like do not know 630 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: who I am? Do not know who my parents are? 631 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 1: Rather than just being like, what's the logical thing that's 632 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: happening right now? And like are there people really actually 633 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: trying to make my day harder? Versus being like do 634 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: you know how many package do we get, and how 635 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: we have to do this legally because to tamper with 636 00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: someone else's male is actually like punishable in our law. 637 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: So all of these like different factors. And also just 638 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: because like honestly, they made like the package center home 639 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: for so many of us, and like a lot of 640 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: us didn't know about each other, like the students that 641 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: actually like felt really connected to this group of people, 642 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: and like the more I talked to Ralph and Louis, 643 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: they would always be like, oh, yeah, yeah, this person 644 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: stopped by, and I was like, there's other people like 645 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: one that's awesome, but also like crazy that it's it's 646 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: not really a known or commonplace thing of like oh, 647 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: we all just hang out together, like if you work here, 648 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: if you go here, we all hang out. And that 649 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: there isn't this like marked difference, uh came into play. 650 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: And I think for me, like there were a lot 651 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: of great students there, like don't get me wrong, professors, students. 652 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 1: There were a lot of incredible people, but you are 653 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: met with a lot of different kinds of people and 654 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: people where you're like, oh, doing your own stuff, were 655 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: doing things that like even like they're so I'm trying 656 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: to think of specific examples, like, for example, like laundry 657 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: for a kids for kids, like a lot of them 658 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: would outsource it, either have someone who their family hired, 659 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: or they would get a service to do that. A 660 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: lot of people who had tutors even throughout college, where 661 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, this person helps me perfect my papers 662 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: and you're just like what, um Like yeah, yeah, and 663 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: you'd be like oh, and you're already so brilliant in 664 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: my brain. Like there was a level of just like 665 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: understanding and how the world worked. And also I met 666 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: people firsthand where they were like up front and ruthless 667 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: about like I want to make money and that is 668 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 1: the only thing I want to do in life, and 669 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: like the way they related to other people was actually 670 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: very much through that lens only, and that was very 671 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: different than when I come from. So for me, experien 672 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: insuing that wide range of humanity was fascinating, and then 673 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: to hear it firsthand from people who were workers at 674 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: that school, like it was really interesting, and especially because 675 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: they are really great people. They are really wonderful. Yeah. 676 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: He talks about how he like wasn't being paid over time, 677 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: but he stayed up and like did overnights at the 678 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 1: Package Center because it was at a time when like 679 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: the books were being distributed, and like he was like, well, 680 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 1: these students need their books. And just like he has 681 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: this in addition to just sounding like the most fun person. 682 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, if you're around me, like you're gonna 683 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: have fun, I'm I can't help it. Like that's just 684 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. But also just like so firmly aware 685 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: of the social contract contract that we're all supposed to 686 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: uphold to like one another, and he holds himself to 687 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: a high standard when it comes to helping people. And 688 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: that that was another place where you know, I went 689 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: to school around a lot of people who like went 690 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: right into finance, and you know, some good, really nice, 691 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: good people who went into finance, and then a lot 692 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: of like shitty people who who went right into finance. 693 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: But like the just more and more we're seeing with 694 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: those kind of higher ruling classes, like the more Panama 695 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: papers leak, the more we learned that they're not holding 696 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:28,280 Speaker 1: themselves to like any environmental standards. When you know, the 697 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: energy companies have known, the oil companies have known about 698 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: climate change since before anyone, like they're not holding themselves 699 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: to a standard that upholds the social contract to not 700 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: just egregiously violate other people's human rights. Like that that 701 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: felt like it was like really on display in a 702 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: in a powerful way in your show. Thanks. Yeah, yeah, 703 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean that is partially why I wanted this show 704 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: to exist. Is just some of the people who uphold 705 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: that contract the most are people who are, like to me, 706 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: like working class folks or or folks who are struggling, 707 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: because like it's very community based and and also it's 708 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: a practice of every day and I think like sometimes 709 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: as you climb the ladder, like there's this this like 710 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: I don't have to uphold it today, or like if 711 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't, if I don't do what this person is 712 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 1: asking me to do, like then I lose everything I've 713 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: been trying to build. And you're like, but how much 714 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: are you actually losing versus the idea in your head 715 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: of what you're losing? And then you become then then 716 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: you allow that to continue slipping, slipping, slipping, And then 717 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: there's also people who are just like straight up villainous 718 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: in this world. And I think to me too, with 719 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: with seeing how like those levels operate, sometimes I I 720 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: just want to continue connecting people to each other and 721 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 1: being like you're actually not that different, or you are 722 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: very different, but you can maintain love and compassion and 723 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: also like, heck, yeah, I have your back, like I 724 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: want to have your back. And guess what, actually, if 725 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: we do understand each other better, if we do connect, 726 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: we can be like be against all odds and change 727 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: something we're seeing it Like to me, we're seeing it 728 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: with the rise of unions again and the labor movement 729 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: and like being able to connect back to that and 730 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: being like, yeah, like we we can like believe in 731 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: the best of people, especially like people who are actually 732 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: like proving themselves to be working towards that on an 733 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: everyday basis. Right, I do think it's underrated how thoroughly 734 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: the culture what as you said, as you like climb 735 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: the ladder. The more you see a culture that is 736 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: just completely divorced from any consideration of the social contract, 737 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: Like I think, I think that's something people will be 738 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,879 Speaker 1: continue to be shocked by, Like you know, you see 739 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: it with the Panama papers and things like that. But 740 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: you know that, I'm so glad your podcast exists to 741 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: kind of have that come out, you know, more and 742 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: more as as you interview, some of these voices aren't 743 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: heard where So the first two episodes where kind of 744 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: take take place inside the package center. Where where are 745 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: you taking it from here? So, actually, what's actually going 746 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: to be really interesting in conversation to this conversation to 747 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: see is my third episode is specifically talking to someone 748 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: who has worked in household staffing for the wealthy of 749 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: New York City, and like, so there's some really crazy 750 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,399 Speaker 1: stories in it and also the complicated conversation of like 751 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: my podcast is a short on the shorter side right now, 752 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,360 Speaker 1: and eventually, you know, we'd love to continue it to 753 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: make it like hour long further, because like it's such 754 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: an interesting conversation to be like, there are people who 755 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: walk into these homes and don't have any protection whatsoever, 756 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 1: and depending on your your class, your immigration status, your education, 757 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: all of these things like factor into how you're treated 758 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 1: at times and that yeah, there are really good people 759 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: out there, there are for sure, but like what's really 760 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: complicated is like when you start to see the grays 761 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: of and then the really the really dark parts of it, 762 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: where you're like, it doesn't matter that there are good 763 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 1: people if someone can be treated this way when they 764 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: walk into a home and on the day today where 765 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: like they're not being treated well, let alone paid well 766 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 1: or anything like that, Like what are we doing? So 767 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: there's that, but then also being like there's a lot 768 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: of an interesting sense of like entitlement that can happen 769 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 1: even to good people or decent people, where it's like, 770 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: because I've earned this, I deserve to be automatically like 771 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: treated a certain way or like get all the perks 772 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: of what I want, versus being like no, if I'm 773 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: contracting you, even for like domestic work, this is a partnership. 774 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: This is an employee employer thing, and it has to 775 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: be laid out. And if there's like unsaid, we're like 776 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: changing boundaries, Like that's not okay. And I think sometimes 777 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: people in positions of more power in those situations don't 778 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 1: always see the full range of like oh wait, let 779 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 1: me think about what this means for this person's life. 780 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: So we talked about that, and then I also talked 781 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: to undocumented Ground zero cleanup crew workers and their experience 782 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: along with like what they they like look forward to 783 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: in life and how they like think about this country. 784 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: And then I also talked to like a woman who stutters. So, 785 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: like the podcast is mostly centered around working people, but 786 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: it is also like taking in like two consideration people 787 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: who have been mothered in society, no matter what that 788 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: looks like. And so I talked to this woman who stutters. 789 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 1: In one percent of the population globally stutters, and there's 790 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: actually no difference among different ethnicities or races. It's actually 791 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 1: within gender, and so it's very rare to be a 792 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 1: woman who stutters. And so I talked to her about 793 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 1: what it's like to be perceived a stupid or like 794 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: someone who doesn't like deserve the time of day too 795 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: to have a full conversation with or get to know 796 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: and so, and what that's like growing up even and 797 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: having that experience, so we like do a whole variety. 798 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: And then like, my brother also married into a white 799 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: working class family, And so I sit down with my 800 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: sister in law's sister, who I like, I knew very 801 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: little about, and was like, Hey, can I talk to 802 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: you about your life because my perception of your group 803 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: of people is very different in your perception of my 804 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 1: group of people might actually be very different as well. 805 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: So like a Mexican and a white work working class 806 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: like very much Allah New York Times for the New 807 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: York Times. Yeah right, let him know, be like, guess 808 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 1: what the conversation is earth shattering? Having for that New 809 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: York Times piece? What typic? Like, what's the reaction to people? 810 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: Because you know, you also mentioned a lot of these people, 811 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: these workers. It's like the first time anyone's bothered to 812 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: interview them, Yes that anyone has bothered to say, no, no, no, 813 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: the story is about you. The story is about your 814 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: lived experience. You don't have to like sugarcoat anything. We 815 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,760 Speaker 1: want to talk very you know, honestly about your life. 816 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: What is that? What's the reaction from people like when 817 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: you ask them to do that or on the other 818 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: side of an interview, like what kind of what? What? What? 819 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:51,919 Speaker 1: What's the sensation for everybody involved? It's there's a lot 820 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,840 Speaker 1: of different perspectives or like feelings involved. Like my sister 821 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: in law's sister was like, no, no, no, no, don't 822 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: interview me, like I have nothing, I'm not interesting, Like 823 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: I have no interesting stories. And yet you hear her 824 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,359 Speaker 1: life stories and you're like, what the heck? You are 825 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: fascinating incredible, And then like even Ralph was like, I mean, 826 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: I'll do it for you because you're asking me, but like, 827 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, like it's totally chill. And then he actually 828 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: was listening to his episode and was told me. He 829 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 1: was like, I had to stop, and I want to 830 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: finish the episode, but it's taking me a while. And 831 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: I was like, you don't have to, but like, also 832 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: can I ask why? And he's like, I just never 833 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 1: really saw myself from the outside because no one's been 834 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: interested in this way and I and I like, I'm like, 835 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,400 Speaker 1: I can see how this is a good guy, but 836 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: like I also feel so strange to be in this 837 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: position of like, wow, I can admire myself. Yeah, there's 838 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: some things that come up throughout the first couple episodes 839 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 1: that feel like like almost internalized invisibility. Yeah, yeah, that's 840 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: being reflected back to you know, workers, especially people of colors, 841 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,440 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, more on that, like you know, 842 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: exactly very hard to like break out of that too, 843 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: even embrace the fact that you are worthy or that 844 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: like you know, like to like Ralph's one is like 845 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: I've never even given myself the grace to put like 846 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: observe myself and understand that I'm a good person and 847 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: even despite the terrible inequality like it's the people that 848 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 1: are on the other side of the scale that are 849 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: working the hardest to uphold some semblance of fairness, and 850 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 1: it's like right, wild, yeah, And that's the thing that's 851 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 1: like so like my heart always feels and like makes 852 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: me want to do this work more and also wants 853 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: me like I just want more stories like that to 854 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: be out there, because I'm like, yeah, the way he 855 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: upholds fairness and kindness and respect in his own life 856 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 1: is much more than most people give him and more 857 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: than he's given himself sometimes and even just being like 858 00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: you talked about like we mentioned how he's like, oh 859 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: my gosh, I didn't even know this existed. I remember 860 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: when I was like, oh, you have to you like art, 861 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 1: you need to go to the Met, like it's free 862 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: for New Yorkers, like go to the Met, take your 863 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,919 Speaker 1: family to the Met. And he's like, okay, sure, short, Sure, 864 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: he goes to Met. He's like it's gorgeous, Like what 865 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: the heck, it's amazing, And I was like, why don't 866 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: you go before? And he's like I didn't think it 867 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: was meant for me. And just like that level of 868 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 1: like here's a man who is interested in art, but 869 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,919 Speaker 1: because of the background he comes from, feels like he's 870 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: not allowed to enjoy it in the same way, or 871 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: like it's not as common to hear like, hey, you know, 872 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,319 Speaker 1: it is free for New Yorkers, so like go check 873 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 1: it out if you can, and like just kind of 874 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: working through that with them, or even hearing about like 875 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: louis being really conservative about his hopes and dreams of 876 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,280 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, I'm working on my real estate 877 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 1: license and just being like sometimes also working class people 878 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: they feel like I think, like dreaming is not necessarily 879 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: something they can do or should do. Yeah, and yet 880 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,320 Speaker 1: like they deserve. In my brain, I'm like everyone deserves 881 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: to dream. Yeah, you come from such an interesting background, 882 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: and like your mom worked as a domestic worker and 883 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: like paid under the table, and like she did that 884 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: to get your dad to a position where he could 885 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,439 Speaker 1: be a professor. Yeah, yeah, and it's it's kind of 886 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 1: really incredible and to have seen that and grown up 887 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 1: with that, Like I I grew up going to people's 888 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 1: houses and doing my homework while my mom cooked and 889 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,919 Speaker 1: cleaned and organized, and like I grew up bartering for 890 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: all the things I did in my activities and stuff 891 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 1: like that until like we got more comfortable, and even 892 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: then like because we do have family in Mexico, and 893 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: unfortunately the economic situation in Mexico Co has never been amazing, 894 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: Like my family's has always sent money back, so are 895 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 1: when we got comfortable, we we had people still relying 896 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: on us. So the way I've gotten to see it 897 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: is very different. And then but still getting to grow 898 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 1: up around like education being important. It was my parents 899 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: way out, Like my mom backed my dad for his 900 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 1: education to try and ensure a better life for their family, 901 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: and so like being aware of that too and and 902 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 1: understanding what a privilege that is. And then also getting 903 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,279 Speaker 1: to hang out with all different kinds of people, like 904 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: I hung out with my dad's grad students, I hung 905 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: out with with like workers my mom knew. I hung 906 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: out with, like the restaurant workers in the Twin Cities, 907 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: Like I hung out with like a bunch of different 908 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: people because I also do and did theater and opera 909 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 1: like so it's like a strange little child who was 910 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 1: running around in different communities and was very like grateful 911 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: to both be like accepted and not accepted in any 912 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: of them. So being in that like weird in between space, 913 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,719 Speaker 1: I think allowed me a lot of like access to 914 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: worlds and feelings and perceptions and queuing into what was 915 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: going on in different ways. And then also we moved 916 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 1: a lot, so like experiencing that in Upstate New York, 917 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,439 Speaker 1: the Twin Cities, then New York City, and then now 918 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,360 Speaker 1: getting to experience what it's like to be in the 919 00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,399 Speaker 1: South have all been like really really incredible and very 920 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,400 Speaker 1: shaping and also reminds me of like how much stereotypes 921 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 1: we have out there, and some of them are like 922 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,160 Speaker 1: fun whatever, you know, Like I'll even say it, like 923 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: I'm super Mexican, Like I freaking have four kinds of 924 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,399 Speaker 1: tachin in my house at all times, like I do 925 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 1: carry hot sauce in my back, like like I know 926 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:20,839 Speaker 1: that I can be a walking stereotope in that way, 927 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: but like how much of it is wrong? Like like 928 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:30,280 Speaker 1: so much. It was my favorite It's still my favorite 929 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: thing ever. Like when I went to go see Waconda Forever, 930 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: I had like the you know, there's like I had 931 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: Lucas and then I also had like there's like now 932 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of assortments of it. So I had 933 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: like cucumber covered dahin gummies. WHOA. So it's like that's 934 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:55,160 Speaker 1: my preferred things. Yeah. Yeah, So it's like for sure, 935 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: like yeah, but also like you know, being in the 936 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: South and being like, damn, there's some really cool people here, 937 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 1: and then there's some people who are like just like 938 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: in desperate situations and desperately ignored. Right, it seems like 939 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 1: the one universal thing, yeah, you know, no matter where 940 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: we go, like that's one constant is that there are 941 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are trying to uphold this 942 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: sense of fairness in a system that has absolutely discarded them. Yeah, 943 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: it's like the kind of really beautiful cruel irony of 944 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,879 Speaker 1: a lot of like these like hearing from these people too. 945 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: And there are two points, like two things that I 946 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 1: thought were like like straight wisdom from that first episode. 947 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: One was when Ralph was saying he doesn't understand why 948 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 1: people like if you're going to toil, like why spend 949 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: your whole week just looking forward to these two days 950 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: where you aren't putting yourself through something when if there 951 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,120 Speaker 1: is a way to make it work for yourself or 952 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: try and enjoy yourself, then try that or at least 953 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: pursue something like that. And then which was like wild too, 954 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: because I've been in many jobs too. I'm like, man, 955 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,080 Speaker 1: just get to fucking Friday, please, I want to do this. 956 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,399 Speaker 1: And that was also like some of the hardest ship 957 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: like like in my life in terms of like I've 958 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: just being so deeply unsatisfied. And then the other was 959 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,000 Speaker 1: also I think your grandfather telling your father that do 960 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,839 Speaker 1: take a job that stimulates your mind, that you use 961 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: your mind and not just your hands and things like that, 962 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: and I think that's such a like It's like those 963 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: are like those little things you grow up hearing as 964 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: a child that set you on a path. And I 965 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: think when I heard that, I was like, wow, that's 966 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 1: such a like such a great thing to be saying 967 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: to somebody like when they're young or looking to what 968 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: direction they want to move in, right, Yeah, And uh 969 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 1: that when I found that out for my father, I 970 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: learned it young to like from him, and I like 971 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: knew like it was a big thing because I've I've 972 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,960 Speaker 1: grown up with my my grandfather's story, like he was 973 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: put in an orphanage at a young age, like didn't 974 00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: get to finish grade school, like he was taken out 975 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,680 Speaker 1: at fourth grade, and like ended up working a lot 976 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: of manual labor jobs, but also tried to make a 977 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: lot of businesses work, Like he was a milkman, he 978 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: worked on a farm. He even like did some illegal 979 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: running across the borders, like like he was trying desperately 980 00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: to like figure things out, and was also a man 981 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:28,920 Speaker 1: who always loved information, Like he taught himself English and 982 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: would read sci fi books in English even though he 983 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: never finished past the fourth grade. Like to me, it 984 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: was like really moving to hear those stories and then 985 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: to like also connect that to like, yeah, like my 986 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: grandfather had the same attitude Ralph has. Like my grandfather 987 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 1: would be like I'm going to tell myself, isn't this great? 988 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: I like this? And then find the ways to figure 989 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 1: it out and make it not just s bearable, but 990 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 1: livable while I'm doing it if I'm required to do 991 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: it right, And that like mentality is like holy cow, 992 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: Like that takes an incredible mind, an incredible spirit, and 993 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: like such grit to like figure out like being like this, 994 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: if this is what I got, what do I need 995 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,880 Speaker 1: to do? Right? Yeah, especially when increasingly, like you know, 996 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: we're at that point now where we need more people 997 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: to like advocate for a kind of life where people 998 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,160 Speaker 1: can work and not have to think this is torture. 999 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 1: At the very least, I can support myself for my 1000 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 1: family with it too, And I think that's you know, 1001 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: I think the ultimate thing you probably want people to 1002 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 1: come away with when you hear these stories too, is understanding, 1003 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,440 Speaker 1: like the how connected we all are and how much 1004 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: we how much we owe each other in this process. People, 1005 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: people we interact with day to day in their various 1006 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: roles aren't just fucking NPCs in a fucking video game. Like, 1007 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 1: everyone has their own life and just trying to go 1008 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 1: through in the same way and to not extend that 1009 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: respect or humility to them. It's just going to happen, 1010 00:59:56,960 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: you know, at our own detriment. So, yeah, courage everybody 1011 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: to listen to show because it's really fantastic. Yeah, it's 1012 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 1: when You're Invisible on the Michael Tura Network and it's 1013 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,360 Speaker 1: very good. Go check it out. Thank you so much 1014 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: for joining us. Thank you. Yeah, it's great having you. 1015 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff. Yeah, 1016 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: So we have the show Instagram, which is when You're 1017 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Invisible podcast, and then you can also follow me, which 1018 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a funkier one. It's made fair. 1019 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: So it's my fusion of my first two names. So 1020 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 1: M A R I F E R underscore my last 1021 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: name B S D I e Z underscore B as 1022 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,520 Speaker 1: an homage to my mom's last name, which I I 1023 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: technically still have. There you go, yeah, And is there 1024 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work those social media 1025 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: you've been enjoying. Oh, I mean so definitely, I'm gonna 1026 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 1: pull it up. But like also very much worker related, 1027 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: especially with the strikes better potentially happening with the railroad workers. 1028 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: So I do love I'm going to butcher the last 1029 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: name of the person who wrote this tweet, but it's 1030 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 1: I think Sarah Lazar, and it's this whole railroad worker 1031 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: episode further clarifies that the essential worker discourse that we've 1032 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: been bombarded with for almost three years is about disciplining 1033 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:27,560 Speaker 1: workers to labor in perilous conditions and not about respecting 1034 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: and protecting the people who do final work. There you go, yeah, Yeah, 1035 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: it's like so fucking wild. It's like, in turn, like 1036 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: we rely on these people to to keep our country going, 1037 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: but they better not get any ideas that they're human. 1038 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,600 Speaker 1: Right now, let's move on, Like, are you hearing what 1039 01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 1: you're fucking saying? Such a fucking l on the Democrats 1040 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 1: sign to like not fucking do the easy thing inside 1041 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: with them, But you know it's just made it harder 1042 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 1: for yourself in a couple of years. Exactly miles Where 1043 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? 1044 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 1: Find me on at symbol having places at miles of 1045 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Gray wherever you desire, I may be there. And also 1046 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 1: find Jack and Iron are fantastic basketball podcast. Miles and 1047 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Jackson Jack. Uh, you know what, we talk basketball in 1048 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: the dumbest way. And also if you like to hear 1049 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: takes on ninety day Fiance, check by the show with 1050 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Sophia Alexandra called four twenty day Fiance. Uh, let's see 1051 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: some tweets that I like. Oh, first one is from 1052 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: at writer b x thh uh talking about like the 1053 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 1: Good Morning America a fair situation. I don't know if 1054 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: you all kept up with that with the anchors. I'm 1055 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 1: a little yeah, and people like anchors that like got 1056 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 1: put put on to the third hour and everyone was like, 1057 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, they have such amazing chemistry, and then 1058 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 1: they got taken and then they yeah, so they. Can 1059 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: you imagine exposing your spouses worked work place affair in 1060 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: the tabloids and the general public being like, well, oh, 1061 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 1: you can't deny the chemistry because that was the I 1062 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: think the spouse sending a public investigator and then look 1063 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: at them. Yes, another one of those for you to 1064 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: Dell Cameron at Dell Cam tweeted, weird how turning the 1065 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,360 Speaker 1: net into basically a handful of apps run by a 1066 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,000 Speaker 1: few white guys in the same zip code transformed humanity's 1067 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: greatest invention into a genocide machine, capable of resurrecting and 1068 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: funding a hate movement penniless and practically dormant by the 1069 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: late nineties. Yeah, I felt like that. And then at 1070 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: dan kg d L tweeted, uh my boy, who I 1071 01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,320 Speaker 1: witnessed beer bong a court of eggnog years ago? Just posted, 1072 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, bitches, it's eggnog season, so I guess he 1073 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,680 Speaker 1: still likes it. Still court is not that much, by 1074 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: the way, Okay, alright, one go okay. Christie Haamaguchi Maine 1075 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:57,280 Speaker 1: responded to the Matt tayeb tweet with the screen cap 1076 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 1: of that sums up my response to much of the 1077 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 1: news just I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for 1078 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: you though, or sorry that happened. Brilliant copy pasta, Yes, 1079 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 1: brilliant copy pasta soul Nate m Nate Shamalan tweeted me, 1080 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 1: you don't like any of my gifts her? No, the 1081 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: five golden brings five golden rings were nice. It's just 1082 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:28,960 Speaker 1: me birds her really bird heavy this year. So many 1083 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,920 Speaker 1: birds in the twelve Gifts of Christmas. Holy shit. Anyways. 1084 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. 1085 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were 1086 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook 1087 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 1: fan page and a website Daily zycheist dot com where 1088 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 1: he post our episodes and our foot note where we 1089 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about today's episode, 1090 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 1: as well as a song and we think you might 1091 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: enjoy myles book song. Do you think people might do? 1092 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:03,680 Speaker 1: This is a tro afro bookie, I guess because it's 1093 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: like after Fella but going into the eighties, so it's 1094 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 1: a little more electronic like afropop. This artist is named 1095 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Steve Monite and he's from Nigeria and this track is 1096 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: called Things Fall Apart, it's from like the early eighties, 1097 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: but it's just got this like fantastic like Afro eighties 1098 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: like pop vibe blowing on. It's really dope, uh and 1099 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 1: like you can just hear like the tape crackling because 1100 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: you know, this ship was all like recorded back in 1101 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 1: the day. I love it. You'll probably like you too. 1102 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,720 Speaker 1: And if you don't, whatever, don't at me. But this 1103 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 1: is things fall Apart by Steve People. It would be 1104 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 1: like I didn't like that one song. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, people, 1105 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: people DMan and stuff. Don't do that. I don't care. 1106 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like it's not my prerogative like take that 1107 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: on board and feel bad. Oh my god, hey people 1108 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: got time, you know. But I also have a strong 1109 01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 1: sense of self, so he doesn't doesn't typically affect me 1110 01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 1: unless you're talking out like the Lakers, oh yeah, which 1111 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: they look a pretty good. Things fall Apart is probably 1112 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 1: gonna be the description of the next three day. They 1113 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: need to just start treating a d like Janice, just 1114 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's the focal anyways. The Daily Like Guys 1115 01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 1: is the production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts from 1116 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app Apple podcast 1117 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows, that's going 1118 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,200 Speaker 1: to do it for us this morning, back this afternoon 1119 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 1: to tell you what is trending, and we'll talk to 1120 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: you all then. Bye. M