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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 3: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 2: Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.

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Speaker 1: We are sibling.

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Speaker 3: Railval No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.

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Speaker 1: Revely.

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Speaker 3: That's good. I am very excited. Did you watch his show?

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Speaker 3: Did you watch show?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It's always on too, you know, I'm always seeing

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Speaker 2: clips of it and it's on my Instagram sometimes, and

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Speaker 2: you know, I just see some rabid dog like charging him.

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Speaker 2: He's like and then the dog like goes down whimpering like.

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Speaker 3: It's so fascinating.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: He's like a real dog whisper. And we're such a

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Speaker 3: dog family. No, I know, we grew up with tons

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Speaker 3: of dogs. I have four, you two, I have too.

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Speaker 2: You know insane ones. Yeah, yeah, well one insane one.

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Speaker 3: Bronco one is and Bronco is the best. I'm I'm

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Speaker 3: obsessed with Bronco.

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Speaker 2: He's the greatest. But yes, I I uh, I need

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Speaker 2: I need Caesar to come deal with Donut.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, Donut.

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Speaker 2: It's too late.

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Speaker 1: He's too old.

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Speaker 2: It's too late. He's old of his way.

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Speaker 4: He's so funny though. He just sits and he stares outside.

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Speaker 4: He's outside. I know, yeah, feelings, his feelings are so intense.

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Speaker 4: And then he's so dumb. It's like, you're like, just.

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Speaker 3: Go in the other door. He knows the other door

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Speaker 3: is open.

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Speaker 2: You do it.

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Speaker 3: I know, you stay by the glass door.

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Speaker 2: Working at me. I'm like, dude, just walk around.

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Speaker 3: So you went out that way, you go back in

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Speaker 3: that way. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Let's get let's get him on. Been waiting. Hi, welcome

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Speaker 3: to our podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. How are you really good? Really good.

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Speaker 3: We're excited to meet you. We're a big dog family.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you ever saw my mom in

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Speaker 4: this movie called Seems Like Old Times where she has

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Speaker 4: five thousand dogs in the house.

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Speaker 3: If you haven't, just like google it so you can see.

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Speaker 3: Because that is what we grew up with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, my kids grew up that way. You know. When

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Speaker 1: I started my high profession, I had two kids, sixty

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Speaker 1: five dogs. So I was learning English, I was learning

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Speaker 1: how to you know, how to stay in America, so

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Speaker 1: becoming an American citizen. So it was a lot of

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Speaker 1: things you know that my kids grew up in it,

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Speaker 1: and and so I you know, we can relate in

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Speaker 1: my family, we can.

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Speaker 2: Relate to Well, let's get into that. What is what

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Speaker 2: was your journey?

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Speaker 1: Well, my journey started in culiacansin Aloa, you know, the

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Speaker 1: imagine that, right, So the dog Whisper is growing up

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Speaker 1: in Sinaloa where it's more likely to become a drug

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Speaker 1: dog Whisper. So that's the beauty of my journey, right

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Speaker 1: that I come from a place where most kids die

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Speaker 1: very soon they go into the you know, the wrong direction.

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Speaker 1: And so for me, because my parents did such a

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Speaker 1: to stay in the in the path that I am,

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Speaker 1: you know I am now. I have a good spirit, I

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Speaker 3: And then how did you connect Like where did the

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Speaker 3: dogs come into the picture? You know, like what what?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: When did you realize you had like the dog whisper energy?

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Speaker 1: Well, the dogs were always in the picture because I'm

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Speaker 1: from a farm, so and a farm and in Mexico,

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Speaker 1: dogs are everywhere, right, So it's different from America. Right,

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Speaker 1: So so dogs were everywhere, and we were a family

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Speaker 1: their humans fight flight avoidance. So in America, the dog

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Speaker 1: the human. And then Mexico they developed the opposite, They

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Speaker 1: because nobody is thinking about, you know, let's remove the

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Speaker 1: freedom of the dog. In America, the dog goes into

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Speaker 1: I saw this dog whispered thinking, you know, possibility.

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Speaker 2: Well, how did you how did you develop your skills?

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Speaker 2: Was it all learned, you know, or was it all

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Speaker 2: trial by trial and error or did you read books

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Speaker 2: just like I'm just going off of pure instinct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pure instinct, you know, defairly instint. Because I'm working

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Speaker 1: the talks about the pack, you know, and how to

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Speaker 1: rehabilitate dogs by using the pack. See, and this is

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Speaker 1: other people, right. And so I'm putting dogs who are

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Speaker 1: then I rehabilitate him that way. But most of the rehabilitations,

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Speaker 1: so everybody knows, is because I walk a lot. See,

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Speaker 1: But the chaos is not The first thing comes out

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Speaker 2: Right, So the oh my god, I love it.

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Speaker 1: When people meet dogs in America. People meet dogs ears, eyes, right.

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Speaker 1: And I grew up listening to my mom, no touch,

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Speaker 1: Those eyes ears? So that means if you practice a

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Speaker 1: certain ritual, you're gonna get the right formula. If you

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Speaker 1: wrong formula. Formula rituals symbols. So the dog is a

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Speaker 1: when I start putting the thing, the two and two

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Speaker 1: And I read the article and the LA Times after

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Speaker 1: I come from a place that you can't plan five

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Speaker 1: I said, I would like to have a TV show

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Speaker 1: because I saw that I can help people. I remember

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Speaker 1: Down the newspaper came on a Sunday. By Monday was

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Speaker 1: I started my first dog psychology center in South Central

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Speaker 3: Wow, I find it so interesting.

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Speaker 4: I have, like, I feel like all dogs have completely

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Speaker 4: Is this I mean obviously based must be based on breeding.

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Speaker 4: such a distinct characteristics, like such distinct characteristics, like you

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Speaker 4: Know, but he's my most like problematic because he goes

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Speaker 1: You know, one thing that people forget is dogs are

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Speaker 1: So it really doesn't matter what breed the dog is,

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Speaker 1: them is the spirit in them. Spirit, animal, specie, breathe

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Speaker 1: So what would a dog go after another dog? Competition, dominance,

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Speaker 1: that in front of human? So that's import The human

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Speaker 1: understand the power of leadership, just like the human understand

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Speaker 1: the power of love, you said. So, what I learned

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Speaker 1: power of silence, commness, confidence, right, especially through the walk

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Speaker 1: you you're going to represent three very important energies. Silence, commness, confidence, love, joy.

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Speaker 1: sixty people attacked the German Chappers, and the eighties in

434
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Speaker 1: the nineties, Rodweilers now pitbulls. Right, every ten years society

435
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: attacks a powerful breed. You see it, but it's not

436
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: the breed. It's not it's not it's not the read

437
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: We have to understand. Listen, when we love dogs, we

438
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 1: have to understand the three positions are going. So when

439
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: we say I want a dog, Okay, what position do

440
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: you want? Is that? What kind of breathe do you want? Now?

441
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: What size it is?

442
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 5: It?

443
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: You know? Because even in the Pomeranians, in order for

444
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: them to go to Best in Show, they have to

445
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: be the front of the back. They can't a middle

446
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: or back.

447
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: Had a Pomeranian.

448
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 3: I had a Pomeranian for almost seventeen years, and.

449
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: I'm convinced that she committed suicide. Ly one day, she

450
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: just off into the pool.

451
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Speaker 4: Now, I said, a longer story, it's done, a much

452
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Speaker 4: longer story easy.

453
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 3: Clara bo my mom, my mom.

454
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Speaker 4: And everybody was like, she's really like at the point

455
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 4: now where you should think about putting her down right,

456
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Speaker 4: And I'm I don't like doing that.

457
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Speaker 3: I'm like, when she's ready to go, she's going to

458
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Speaker 3: be ready to go.

459
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: She she barks when she wants to go to the bathroom,

460
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: she barks, when she wants to eat, she barks when

461
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: she wants to be picked up, and for months I

462
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: would have to take her out. She just couldn't walk,

463
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: and and then she like had Then all of a sudden,

464
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 4: everyone's like, gotta put it, and I started really thinking

465
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 4: like maybe I should. And then all of a sudden

466
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Speaker 4: she started walking again, and I was like, oh my god,

467
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: like so then she started walking, then she went back,

468
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 4: and then it was really like I could tell she

469
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 4: was on her last you know, months or days or whatever.

470
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 4: And then I can't explain this to you because it's

471
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 4: so insane. She would only sit in her little in

472
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Speaker 4: her in her bed all the way on the other

473
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 4: side of my house, which is about an anchor, and

474
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: there's no water around her at all now the pools

475
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Speaker 4: on the other side of the.

476
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Speaker 3: House, and she somehow.

477
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Speaker 2: Ended up.

478
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Speaker 1: It was awful.

479
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: It was one of the most awful things of all time.

480
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: Everybody's convinced that she was like, get me out out

481
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Speaker 4: of there.

482
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be in this body anymore.

483
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: I heard a trek an Acre is like us climbing

484
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Speaker 2: Everest without training.

485
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Speaker 4: It was really like one of those things where I

486
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, well, you know, it's not the way

487
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: I wanted hurt to see her go, but it was it.

488
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Speaker 2: Was it was yeah, she was like, get me out

489
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Speaker 2: of here. Yeah. Well, I have a quick question about

490
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Speaker 2: just breeds. Are our breeds just genetically sometimes predisposed to

491
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Speaker 2: certain things, whether it be anxiety or you know, all

492
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Speaker 2: of the kind of the the issues that dogs that

493
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Speaker 2: you were explaining that most dogs or some dogs have

494
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Speaker 2: are it's just the breed matter. Is there a genetic

495
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: component bad breeding?

496
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Speaker 1: That's bad breeding. That's why people who breed dogs that

497
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know, become a breeder. The level

498
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: of ethics that they need to have have to be high.

499
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: And you know, in the breathing world and the breeders world,

500
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: it is right because these people that come with thirty

501
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: forty years, you know, a line, blood line of dogs,

502
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: they can guarantee you, you know, a certain outcome of

503
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: their dog because there making sure they're healthy all the way.

504
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: Every generation is healthy. So can you breed healthy? Yes,

505
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: you can?

506
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: You see it.

507
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: So these dogs are born with anxiety and all like

508
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: puppy meals. Right, So in the puppy meal world, they

509
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: don't really care about good geens. They just care about

510
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: how much money can they make. So a lot of

511
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: times these dogs are in the market, are in the city,

512
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: are in the community. You know, that's what we get

513
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: to see because and think about it. In nature, they

514
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: will never breed with anything that is not healthy. They

515
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: can't afford to breed a male and a female. They're

516
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: not healthy, right, And and there and and the man

517
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: of the nature they kill each other. They're just you're

518
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: you're not healthy, right. No one who doesn't have the

519
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: highest level of geens will ever make but with us

520
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: because it's emotional, Oh I want her to have babies.

521
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: Oh I want him to have it. That can be

522
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: the most anxious dog, the dog, the more confused dog,

523
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: you know, bad skin or bad hips, whatever. But it's emotional, right, right,

524
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: So the human gives permission because the emotion is bigger

525
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: than the logic.

526
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Speaker 3: Well, what do you think about breeding? Is that something

527
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: that you are you know, do you are you rescue?

528
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: Like?

529
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: How do you look at the sort of the dog world.

530
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: And the dog right through the politics behind all of it?

531
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Speaker 1: Well, you know there is good breeders, right there is

532
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: good Because I have clients who want a pure bred

533
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: dog and that's all they want. They don't want nothing else.

534
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: They want to know, you know, they want to start

535
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 1: from the beginning, right, And but in reality and in America, unfortunately,

536
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: it's a lot of dogs that utilize because the overpopulation.

537
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: So of course when and so who do I help? Right?

538
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: Who do I help? And so definitely you know, if

539
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: you want a great breeder, do I know? Yes, of course?

540
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: But what what I let you know? A give a

541
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: chance to a dog that you know is going to

542
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: be put down just because it's too many. Yeah, right,

543
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: So instead of you coming from logic, you do it

544
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: more spiritual, right, because you're going to keep somebody alive, right,

545
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: not always meant to die. It's just too many of them.

546
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 2: M hm.

547
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: So then then the mission or the or the journey,

548
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: it gets a little bit deeper from the beginning.

549
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you do you have a favorite breed?

550
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: No, I just love dogs. I love the pack right

551
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: to me if you if, like I said, I had

552
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: sixty five dogs at one point. Yeah, But I just

553
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: love the community. I love the family like I love

554
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: this quantity I love because once you're followed by a

555
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: pack of dogs, it's literally like you've been followed by

556
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: two elephants. Agint be followed by two elephants, right, the

557
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: energy that they provoked is very big. So when you

558
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: have a pack of dogs, the bigger the pack, you

559
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So when they're in a follower state,

560
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: it's not the breed who's following you, is the spirit

561
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: in the instinct following you.

562
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 4: I have this thing where I'll walk around the house

563
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: and I'll be doing things for like an hour, and

564
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: I'll realize that all of.

565
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: My dogs are following me over. It's so cute. And

566
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: then and we go into the room, we know what,

567
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 3: and they all come into the room. It's just it's

568
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: like I just there. You know, my little dog babies

569
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 3: are just the best thing in the world.

570
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Speaker 2: Do you find that some sort of modern day devices

571
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: or modern day ways of training are you know, not

572
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: good and controversial, you know, with like shot callers and

573
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.

574
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: Well, you have to understand why people would invent something

575
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: like that, right, Why? Why why is that a tool?

576
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: There's some people do need? Right because the dog is

577
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: already out of le level, at a high level of

578
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: excitement or predatorial behavior or you know, just it's just

579
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: the mind is in an instinctual mode. But if you

580
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: never want to use tools. Do everything right in poppyhood?

581
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: Yeah right, just do everything ryan puppy hood. Remember, animals

582
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: don't use tools, but they do things right. Right. You see,

583
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: the human brings a dog and then he leaves them there,

584
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: no exercise, mental stimulation comes back and only gives affection, right, So,

585
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: and then the dog lives in this world of affection, affection, affection.

586
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, exercise mental stimulation, you see it.

587
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: So the exercise, especially in a puppy. Can a puppy

588
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: follow you without the least of course? It's like a duck, right,

589
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: it's like a little baby sheep. What are they gonna do?

590
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna follow somebody. They're gonna find somebody to follow.

591
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: Your job is to nurture that right and then with

592
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: the rules, bunded limitations, that's how you nature it. Now,

593
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: most people do not do that. Most people do not

594
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: raise the dog the right way. So then the dog

595
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: from bird to eight months becomes an adolesson at eight months,

596
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: So at eight months the dog is an adolescent. The

597
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: females can become in heat. What is that means? That

598
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: means they can have puppies. A male a year and

599
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: two months he can mount and you already start seeing

600
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: that he begins to pee, or he begins to explore,

601
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: or he begins to patrol his environment. See, all of

602
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: those are activities. They are saying, I'm about to start

603
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: becoming territorial and dominant. Do you see it? And if

604
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: you don't do anything about it, I can harm other dogs,

605
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: or I can harm squirrels, or I can harm anything. Right,

606
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: because the human is not creating rules, boundaries, limitations. You

607
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: get it. So the first technology invented in the world

608
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: was a leash. Yeah right, So I always tell people listen,

609
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: before you use any any tool, your energy, your philosophy,

610
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: your actions number one. Then do the same thing with

611
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: the leash. Good energy, good philosophy, good actions. Then you

612
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: bring what I invented.

613
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to hear about this because this is.

614
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: For this is what to maintain the rules, boundaries, limitations,

615
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: especially if you're not watching, if you're not watching, or

616
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: if you're not there. It's like AI reminding your dog. Hey,

617
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: this is the rules, bandaries, limitations to block a dog

618
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: from breaking the rules, brands, limitations. That's when the tool

619
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: can benefit you, Right, But can you do it without

620
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: the tool, of course, of course you can look at

621
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: the homeless people. Homeless people, walk a dog off leash, right,

622
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: go to the Amazon. Nobody in the Amazon has tools.

623
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: Go to Turbo countries. Nobody in tourbough countries have tools.

624
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: So right, But why because they're calm, you know, they

625
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: do natural stuff. You know, they're not afraid if the

626
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: dog is going to run way, they're not afraid that

627
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: is going to bite somebody. The human is not practicing

628
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, tension or the human is not practicing any

629
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: kind of confusion you see it. So you are the

630
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: first tool. I think when you're not aware of your energy,

631
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: you can hurt your environment when your philosophy is not

632
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: the right one. You can harm your environment when your

633
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: actions are not the right ones. And then when you

634
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: do all of them at the same time, then you

635
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: are the one who is who's the wrong tool.

636
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 4: It's funny I find that, Like I've worked with a

637
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 4: lot of different dog trainers and people who work with dogs,

638
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 4: and they do use tools.

639
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: You know, there seems to be like I was working

640
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: with someone who used the spike.

641
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: Collar, yeah, and I didn't like it.

642
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: It made me like I was like, I don't like this,

643
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: this feels wrong, yep.

644
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: But then the person put the spike collar on me

645
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 4: and pulled it, you know, and gave me a little thing.

646
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh it actually it doesn't really

647
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: like you.

648
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: Know, hurt.

649
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: What what is this?

650
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: The hot dog trainer?

651
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: No?

652
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: No, no, no no.

653
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Speaker 2: My mind was going a lot of places, and like

654
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: then he put this.

655
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Speaker 3: Hot dog trainer. No no, you put on my hand

656
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: that my hand. This is actually in Colorado, this guy

657
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 3: in Colorado.

658
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 4: And and he kind of just showed me what it

659
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: what it feels like, you know, when you when when it,

660
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: you know, And I was like, oh, it's actually not

661
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 4: so bad. So I kind of like it's hard for

662
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 4: me to decipher or to understand like what is considered appropriate,

663
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: you know, and and what isn't.

664
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: Like I like shot collars.

665
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 4: I got so upset one time with someone that was

666
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: housing my dog because they is a shot collar on

667
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 4: my on my azzie and I was like, this is

668
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: I got very like you should have asked me it

669
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 4: was really And then and then he and then if

670
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 4: this person was saying like listen, your dog has a

671
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 4: tendency to do these things.

672
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: This is what this is.

673
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 4: And a lot I just find that a lot of

674
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: people who work more with dogs use tools more than

675
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 4: say like.

676
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: Just an owner, and I wonder what your feelings are

677
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: on that.

678
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the reason why I trained humans, right,

679
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: because all this, all this confusion or all this we

680
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: have to learn to disagree or agree. Right. Why do

681
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: you agree with right? Okay, so let's start with this.

682
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: Let me show you how to use this way because

683
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: this tool everybody in a dog show use it right

684
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: from the Pomeranians or the Chihuahuas to the Great Day.

685
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: And everybody has a simple leash. M right, So what

686
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: is the leash for? To guide?

687
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: To stop?

688
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: Because that's what they pulled up. That's when they put

689
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: them up. The dog stop and then the judge can come.

690
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: And also to park horses, you guide the horse, you

691
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: stop the horse, you park the horse. So then the

692
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: brain learned, oh, the leech means guidance, stop, park. But

693
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: then the brain learned to come surrendered to the leash, right,

694
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: you see it. So come surrender, as you know, is

695
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: a very important state of mind because that's when you

696
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: actually agree, that's when you actually understand, that's when you

697
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: actually absorbing information because your calms surrendered. You see what

698
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

699
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm hm.

700
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: So talk about talk about the collar. What you invented,

701
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: what did you What are its capabilities? What are its functionality?

702
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: The capabilities is that you can you can. Let's say,

703
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, people believe it or not. For my clients,

704
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: the American dream is to take a dog everywhere, right,

705
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: just like in Mexico. Like nobody in Mexico that has that.

706
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: That's the American dream. The American dream for Mexicans is

707
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: to come to America.

708
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: More American. The American dream with a dog.

709
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: Is to a dog free freeze. I can go to

710
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: the beach freeze, salmity free, I can go meet America,

711
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: and you know, my dog can behave properly. And so

712
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: the whole point of the tool is to remind your

713
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: dog what the rules, boundaries, limitations are. That's what keeps

714
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: the dog understanding what's expected. The exercise, you know, the

715
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: walk of the run is definitely not now the collar

716
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 1: is not gonna do it. Do you have to be

717
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: with the dog.

718
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 6: Walking with the dog, rollerblading, biking with a dog, surfing

719
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 6: with a dog, something physical, right, So the collar is

720
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 6: just to remind the dog to behave accordingly.

721
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: To plant, or if you if you don't want the

722
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: dog to go beyond one hundred feet away from you

723
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: at the beach, you just create the invisible circle the halo,

724
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: and your dog stay with And that's interesting.

725
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's cool. You see what I mean? And what

726
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: does it do?

727
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: Does it?

728
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 3: Is it like a shot collar.

729
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: It has three ways to remind your dog. The sound,

730
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: the vibration, and then if your dog is fight to ten.

731
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: That's the only reason why your dog will do that.

732
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: That's the only reason why you dog will get that

733
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: kind of a correction. That's what I'm saying, exercise before

734
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: anything else, because with exercise, the brain becomes more sensitive.

735
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: The body becomes more sensitive. So when we are more sensitive,

736
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: it doesn't require physical contact. Somebody can just hey and

737
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: just be totally fine. You see it so low medium high.

738
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: So if we keep dogs but in the low medium,

739
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: you can just remind them with sound and vibration. The

740
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: only reason why the dog will get a strong correction

741
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: is because it's five to ten and fight to ten

742
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: means he's about to go right it. So before the

743
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: brain goes too far, you snap them out of them.

744
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: It's like when people when people panic in the plane. See,

745
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: it's a physical contact that snaps some out of it

746
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: because no vibration and no sound was not out human

747
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: out of it. It's already gone, right, you see it.

748
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: So the shock is a physical contact. And the reason

749
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: why is because the only way you can reach a

750
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: dog without a tool, it's a remote control, Like how

751
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: can I reach it to go after a squirrel you

752
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: have about to go after, uh, you know another dog

753
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: for example, or the dog is already far gone from you.

754
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is My friend said the same thing about

755
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: you know, using tools, was very like, there's just certain

756
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 4: and then the goal is to have that be something

757
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 4: that is then learned quickly.

758
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: And dog skill learn really fast, but not to do right.

759
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: So you just listen. Never teach a dog anything without

760
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: enough exercise because you don't want the body involved. When

761
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 1: they have too much energy in the body, they become

762
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: like buffalos. So they take they become like a gorilla.

763
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Yeah, you don't want to

764
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: go against mother nature because mother nature can take paning

765
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: like nobody else. Right, So you lower all the physical

766
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: energy and you leave the mind open. Surrender. The mind

767
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: has to be surrendered. The body has to become calm surrendered.

768
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Speaker 2: So that's the best time you're saying to sort of

769
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: train your dog for.

770
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: Anything, for kids, for anything, for humans. Don't talk to

771
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: a human is a humans and a five flight avoidance.

772
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: He's never gonna listen to you. Yeah, a human only

773
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: listens to you when he's come surrender or happy, go lucky.

774
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: Well, what's your feelings about creating? Do you do you

775
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: keep your dogs in crates? I'm sleeping on the bed.

776
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: I mean, is that just a personal preference or how

777
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: do you how do you look at all that raids.

778
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Are great when the dog doesn't know how to behave

779
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: with that supervision. Okay, remember your house is a crate.

780
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: Your four walls is a crate. Now never never put

781
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: a dog inside a crate with a proper exercise. Never

782
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: just uh uh lie to the dog by throwing a

783
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: food and then you close the door because you're trapping.

784
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: It's never trapped a dog. You see what I'm saying,

785
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Give me that steak. Listen. In order for the dog

786
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: to in order for a dog to see a positive

787
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: experience with a create, the mind needs to be in

788
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: a resting state. Yeah. See resting That means the dog

789
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: wants to go and chill. And then once the brain

790
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: goes say I just want to go chill. Okay, then

791
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: you tell them a chill here, and then you need

792
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: to pay attention how long does it take for my

793
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: dog to wanted to pee? Because every so often they

794
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: want to pee. Right, So one thing is resting, then

795
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: there's the pee because then by nature they need to pick.

796
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: Then then you can start prolonging the waiting and the

797
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: and the holding. There's two things that don't have to learn. Oh,

798
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: like I gotta guys are not opening the door, you

799
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So if you're not paying attention

800
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: to that too, right, so the dog is going to

801
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: associate the great the wrong way. Now they're sleeping with you,

802
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: make sure that a dog never chooses where to sleep

803
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: because if you have another partner. You know a lot

804
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: of times I've been called because the dog dominates their

805
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: bed and only allows one of the family members to

806
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: come and sleep with.

807
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: That's Cody, you see it.

808
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 4: Cody when I was single, Cody when when when Danny

809
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 4: started getting into was very funny.

810
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: He would like get in his side of the bed.

811
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 4: Cody would yeah, get yeah, Cody would get on his

812
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 4: side of the bed and not move and getting be

813
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: like Cody Cody and he shared him.

814
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I beg Cody.

815
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: Cody down and he would go down. But it was

816
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: only would only you know, for the first like two years.

817
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: It's really funny, Jesus two years.

818
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so the first two years he always got Danny's

819
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: Danny's side, well, I mean like updating, and.

820
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: Then he moved in and then oh yeah, okay.

821
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: It's so fascinating all this stuff, you know, just the

822
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: psychology of the dog. You know how deep it can

823
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: honestly be, because I think a lot of dog owners

824
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 2: just buy a dog and they kind of get lazy

825
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: and like, oh, I'm gonna be two weeks in like

826
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: oh fuck it, okay whatever, you know, they just get

827
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: lazy on it. But yeah, it's it's you know, there's

828
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: real psychology there.

829
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: Remember during COVID, all the shelters were empty, and then

830
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: all the characters after COVID, all the church got full.

831
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: So what is that why people used to say I

832
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: don't have time, Then with COVID they have time. Then

833
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: then they send the dogs right back. So why did

834
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: they do that? Because they never understood what was the

835
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: responsibility behind. It was just an idea. It looked good

836
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: in the idea. Yes, you see what I mean, because

837
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: once you enter into a relationship, you have to use honesty, integrity, loyalty.

838
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: The integrity is what allows you to follow through once

839
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: you adopt the dog.

840
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: You don't quit.

841
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: Don't quit on the human. Why would a quit on

842
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: a dog because a human wasn't ready. That's why.

843
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go take Donut for a walk. Right,

844
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: I've completely neglected Donut, I know, because the bulldog can

845
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: just they lull you into a false set.

846
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: Not all of them, man, not all of them. Because

847
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: I have some bulldogs here. They are like, you know, like,

848
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: yeah it a rhino.

849
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Donut too. I mean, Donut is in

850
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 2: love with human beings, but he will go after other dogs.

851
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 2: He gets territorial, you know, I'll just charge them.

852
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: I had a bulldog that was like a gazelle. It

853
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: could like jump.

854
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: It was like it was like a yeah it was.

855
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 5: It could jump up onto like big fences and stuff.

856
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: I'd be like, this is the only bulldog in the

857
00:45:53,280 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 5: world that has like Donut. My bulldog can swim, swim.

858
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: They relax, They relax, They don't do this right.

859
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: Relax, Yeah, bulldogs.

860
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: The key with bulldogs is to help them relax, right,

861
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: Because they relaxed, then they're going to use the voyage.

862
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: To and then they they are funny. Man, that's a

863
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 2: funny breed of dog.

864
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you learn today?

865
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: I learned that I need to walk my dogs more

866
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: that I said. It should be something I do like

867
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 3: once in the morning and once in the afternoon for sure.

868
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: And I have learned that.

869
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Speaker 4: Well, I honestly like, I think the biggest thing is

870
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 4: what you're saying is to is to really sort of

871
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: teach them when they're calm.

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00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. That was big

873
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: for me. Yeah, I didn't realize that.

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00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, don't forget it's too Silence and calm. Silence

875
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: is really powerful because that's what gives you patience, is

876
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: your breath. They're gonna trust your breath, right because animals

877
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: are connected to the breath. It is that simple, simple, profound.

878
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: And then there's the knowledge silence, calmness, knowledge, love joy.

879
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: So if everybody around the world practice the formula, ritual symbols,

880
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 1: and then all the dogs around the world are gonna

881
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: be you know, perfectly fine, You're gonna be able to

882
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, gonna be tired by people doing exercise. They're

883
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: gonna understand because people maintain rules by limitations, and because

884
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: the dog did that, the human will give love. So

885
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna end up giving love to trust, respect,

886
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna end up giving love to the body and

887
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: the mind. That's what you're giving love to.

888
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is bigger than dogs.

889
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,720
Speaker 1: Well, this is remember God dogs, so God dog human.

890
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 1: So the dog is here to remind the human about

891
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: God and Earth. Right, God is the silence, is the patience,

892
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: and dog is the Calmness is the connection. And then

893
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: as what is your role in this case? Your role

894
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: is to be the pack leader of your house, right,

895
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: that's your role. Your role is not just to get drug,

896
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: is to give direction, protection, love.

897
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, children, Yes, it's the same. How many times

898
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: you've been bitten? Like a thousand?

899
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: The worst one was my divorce.

900
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 6: I was in my Hollywood maybe I got money, fame

901
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 6: and power and just that's the strongest bite.

902
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: Has that been difficult to deal with, by the way,

903
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: for you in the beginning, yes, because you know, yeah,

904
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: in the beginning, it was really bad. It was a

905
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: really bad divorce. So the dog bites, they're not doing

906
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: it thinking it. The human bites thinking it.

907
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, humans can do like real, It

908
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: took a while for you to transition into this new

909
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: world of sort of you know, fame and people knowing

910
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: who you are.

911
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,479
Speaker 1: I wasn't coming for the fame. I was just coming

912
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: to learn, you know, and then go back home. Right,

913
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Speaker 1: So I wasn't prepared, you know, I wasn't coming. I'm

914
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: not coming to La to become an actor, right right right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's so interesting, so funny.

916
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well listen, I also learned that when I'm having issues,

917
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call you.

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00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 2: I know me too, Like, forget about the dogs. I'm

919
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 2: just gonna get some positive affirmations.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about God, dog and human again? Yes,

921
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: I need to unpack that even more.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you really great man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the opportunity. Guys you guys, bye, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you,