Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2: I wore a Larry necklace for you today. Let me
Speaker 2: see it says fuck?
Speaker 1: Oh it says fuck. I can't see that. It's it's blurry.
Speaker 1: It's cute. I like it. I am. I thought of
Speaker 1: that when I was putting on my necklaces to my gold.
Speaker 1: So what we're referring to is when I was on
Speaker 1: the show with Tory, I always wanted to wear gold. Wit.
Speaker 2: Are we allowed to say nine or two on our
Speaker 2: or now?
Speaker 1: Are we? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm messing with you the show.
Speaker 1: The show not a two and oh. I used to
Speaker 1: like gold, and so I would always ask for gold
Speaker 1: and Tory would always be like, what the fuck is
Speaker 1: with the gold, Like it's silver, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it's gold. You gotta go with golds.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You started me on that because I would just
Speaker 2: make fun of you, but I always trust it your
Speaker 2: fashion instinct. And that's when we came up with the
Speaker 2: name Larry, because I called you Larry's from Larry from
Speaker 2: Three's Company because you wear like big gold chains. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my Larry.
Speaker 1: So I have something funny to show you that I
Speaker 1: brought out.
Speaker 2: To show you oh my gosh, Okay, I see it, Claire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Pete Peter Ferrero who you know. Yes, I
Speaker 1: was shootings Women with Sharks, this show that I did,
Speaker 1: and he said to me, I have the flare necklace
Speaker 1: from Mollie. If you want it, I will bring it
Speaker 1: to you on set. And so he brought it to me.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I want it. So he brought
Speaker 1: it to me. So it's very prized possession.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And that was like way before. So
Speaker 2: if you can't see, well you can't see what we're showing.
Speaker 2: It's a gold name necklace and it's Claire from nine
Speaker 2: and that was way before like Sex and the City
Speaker 2: and like Harry or the name necklace. Like, yeah, it
Speaker 2: totally was you pretty much.
Speaker 1: That's like the highlight of my life. I think at
Speaker 1: this point. That's why a lot of mark that's like you.
Speaker 2: Know, watermark on nine outs and no. Okay. So I
Speaker 2: was trying to think the other day, like, because you know,
Speaker 2: I can visualize everything, I can't remember the first time
Speaker 2: we ever met, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean I I have a pretty good memory of it. Like,
Speaker 1: so it was definitely so when I started on the show,
Speaker 1: I don't think we really had any scenes together, but
Speaker 1: I remember sort of slowly systematically getting to meet each
Speaker 1: cast member, you know, and it was it was fucking weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just remember it was very kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's Luke and oh you know, some
Speaker 1: ad would be like, oh, I'll introduce you or and
Speaker 1: I feel like I met you in that dumpy little
Speaker 1: hallway where the dressing rooms were, and I can visualize
Speaker 1: your dressing room. It was on the right and it
Speaker 1: was like you had like a like a futon on
Speaker 1: the ground right, like a big up ground and and
Speaker 1: I just remember.
Speaker 2: You were so was it pink by then?
Speaker 1: But opposite of yeah, it was like very it was
Speaker 1: very shabby.
Speaker 2: Chic, right it was yeah right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Like like it was like a sting show, like chipped
Speaker 1: white wood and lots of Rachel ash was it Rachel
Speaker 1: Ashcroft Rael Yeah Ashwell, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was like my first I mean, before
Speaker 2: I moved out, I had that dressing room first. So
Speaker 2: growing up, I you know, my mom decorated every thing,
Speaker 2: picked everything, so I was, you know, never had much
Speaker 2: of a say, so I went overboard on that dressing
Speaker 2: room and I was like, I'm a girl. I've always
Speaker 2: wanted pink. I've never had pink anywhere, so it was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: nobismo pink. It was disgusting.
Speaker 1: And you had a TV remember I did, with like
Speaker 1: the lay Chess. Yeah, and we would lay in there
Speaker 1: at lunch and watch like there was a soap you
Speaker 1: always watched that. I was like, why are oh my god, like,
Speaker 1: why are we watching this soap opera? Do you remember?
Speaker 2: Like it was like a Days of Our Lives? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, great,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I did that to you.
Speaker 1: And we would order lunch from marmalade.
Speaker 2: Marmalade, always marmalade. Yeah, but you started season four though, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know either.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We need we need someone here to.
Speaker 2: Because you're in high school. Yeah, I we were just
Speaker 2: to be older, but then all of a sudden you
Speaker 2: became a series regular and we were all the same age.
Speaker 2: Correct well, because Clara had a photographic memory and she
Speaker 2: was very intelligent, so they just like it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I know this stuff only because we do the rewatch.
Speaker 2: Otherwise I wouldn't remember anything. Yeah, well that's not true.
Speaker 1: Is it weird for you rewatching all this stuff, like
Speaker 1: is it just like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I'm able to finally watch myself. It's
Speaker 2: taken this long, like thirty three years for me to
Speaker 2: be able to look at myself and not be like cringe.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a few things, but in general, I'm
Speaker 2: able to take in the character and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: I like her, like and objectively for the first time.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of fun. But still, I mean, my
Speaker 2: highlight and I talk about this all the time in
Speaker 2: the show is Claire and Donna together aka you and
Speaker 2: I in real life. So the college years are always
Speaker 2: my favorite because we lived together and we went to
Speaker 2: college and went to see you and yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was fun. I mean obviously you know I've
Speaker 1: told you this before. Like my you know, my memories
Speaker 1: of that experience very much are just kind of like
Speaker 1: you and I and like we just I was having fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the rest was you know, complicated.
Speaker 2: I was it complicated? Kay. We always ask people when
Speaker 2: you've been on nine on two and l like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just curious, who was the first person
Speaker 2: you met? Did you feel that the class was approachable?
Speaker 2: So I'll just ask those typical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like Jason, being Canadian, was very friendly,
Speaker 1: very approachable. I mean, I don't obviously want to systematically
Speaker 1: go through each person and to rag on people, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think there was definitely an energy about it.
Speaker 1: It was very much you know, when I started, it
Speaker 1: was right when Shannon was leaving, so I remember having,
Speaker 1: you know, some exchanges with her that were sort of
Speaker 1: like very you know, I think she was obviously in
Speaker 1: a really difficult place, and so it was it was
Speaker 1: like a complicated sort of transition.
Speaker 2: And I think, oh and you and Tiffany pretty much
Speaker 2: started the same season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tiffany as well. Right, Yeah, like I think obviously,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know this, like I was definitely kind
Speaker 1: of very different, I think than everybody else in that.
Speaker 1: Like I was from you know, Hamilton, blue collar and town,
Speaker 1: and I was very sort of a little bit more
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't fancy, so to speak, and I
Speaker 1: think I was just kind of I always felt a
Speaker 1: bit like an observer and like was sort of taking
Speaker 1: it all in. And you were kind of my like
Speaker 1: safe haven. Like you were like totally normal, totally fun,
Speaker 1: completely in your body, completely authentic, just like great, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think that a lot of other people on
Speaker 1: the show were like just were more complicated.
Speaker 2: If that makes yeah, it does. I mean it's got
Speaker 2: to be incredibly intimidating nonetheless, to come into such a
Speaker 2: mega hit. I mean, yeah, that would be your version.
Speaker 2: In Canada. People come onto your shows when you were
Speaker 2: younger and like, for sure, yeah, I don't sure. It's
Speaker 2: never easy. It's never easy going onto someone else's set,
Speaker 2: even now, like.
Speaker 1: If oh my god, I know I it wasn't.
Speaker 2: Because of nine o two and zero and I saw
Speaker 2: how other people were treated. I definitely go on to
Speaker 2: a set a little nervous, but it's nice coming into
Speaker 2: a set with adults. It's not always you know, we
Speaker 2: were all young and so that was a hard time.
Speaker 1: But I feel like you like, see that's I feel
Speaker 1: like you were even conscious of that back then, because
Speaker 1: I feel like it always went out of your way
Speaker 1: with people, and I remember like seeing that as the
Speaker 1: years went on, and you know, like you always were
Speaker 1: the person that would like go up to the guest
Speaker 1: star or you would like make sure that a new
Speaker 1: director felt safe, or like you just always were hyper
Speaker 1: aware of that. And I'm not sure if that's just
Speaker 1: like something that was instilled in you growing up with
Speaker 1: your dad. Like but it was like very much something
Speaker 1: that was part of who you were and it wasn't forced.
Speaker 2: I think. I think it's just me. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I just have we have empathy for people, and you know,
Speaker 2: I just never people are there to do their job
Speaker 2: and it's a big opportunity. And I never wanted anyone
Speaker 2: to feel less than or yeah, yeah, I always wanted
Speaker 2: to go out of my way to make them feel
Speaker 2: more than us, you know, like anything I could do.
Speaker 1: And you always did, not to say you were like
Speaker 1: a total little like shit disturber too.
Speaker 2: On the side, Well so were you? You did it
Speaker 2: really well together. No one ever saw it coming. Oh
Speaker 2: we were like, oh the makeup department, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: knew all the guys on the set, Like we were
Speaker 2: like the two what would you call us? Like I'm
Speaker 2: trying to think, like on Ones, the final like we
Speaker 2: would always be with the crew and makeup and just
Speaker 2: like fun, fun and just laugh. We laughed a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah we did, and that was really good. I'm yeah.
Speaker 1: And we did on Scary Movie.
Speaker 2: Too, also, I know, which is so I feel like.
Speaker 1: It was like the same shit all over again ten
Speaker 1: years later, or however many years later it was it.
Speaker 2: It was I was twenty six when I did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like twenty yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was right after nine o two had ended
Speaker 2: for me, Yes, what are the chances?
Speaker 1: You know? And I remember I was cast already in
Speaker 1: that movie, and I remember like getting like they were like, okay,
Speaker 1: so they were casting your role. And then I remember
Speaker 1: when they were like, so we've casted, We've cast Tory Spelling,
Speaker 1: And I was like, are you kidding me? What the fuck? Like,
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to get to work with you again.
Speaker 1: And we had so much fun on that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was like so much and so crazy.
Speaker 2: And I was so scared I wasn't going to get
Speaker 2: the park because you were in it. And I was like,
Speaker 2: are they going to make the connection? Like I am
Speaker 2: trying trying to transition to the big screen whatever that
Speaker 2: means anymore. But I was like, you know two nine
Speaker 2: o two one oh girls, I was like, yeah, no
Speaker 2: one even thought twice about it.
Speaker 1: No, I don't even think they connected it.
Speaker 2: No, which was great. We were like that's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then you met your husband Chris, because we did
Speaker 2: Scary You together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you were dating can I say? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you were dating Rick over sir, he's one of
Speaker 1: my husband's best friends.
Speaker 2: I just, all of a sudden, being me felt the need,
Speaker 2: like because I'm like, no one ever thinks I get
Speaker 2: anything on my own. I was cast into the movie
Speaker 2: before Rick and I met.
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Know, but you know me, I like said, my wife
Speaker 2: is like telling people why I like my dad, Like, no.
Speaker 1: You like fully met on set for that job and
Speaker 1: like got that job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember it was almost for USA Bulk. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we had so much time. I remember that because oh
Speaker 2: my god. I mean, you guys can hear us talking
Speaker 2: and you if you guys are fans or you know
Speaker 2: that we have had an exceptional friendship over the last
Speaker 2: what twenty years? She's twenty five.
Speaker 1: Thirty sixty sixty, seventy years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're only two months younger than me. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we went through a lot of relationships together, a lot
Speaker 2: of boys and a lot of boyfriends. Like remember when
Speaker 2: I had to come like basically move in. Sorry, I'm
Speaker 2: skipping back now to nine days. That's how we'll like
Speaker 2: line up our friendship. We'll either call it Nino or
Speaker 2: scary movie too too. Yeah, but you were in Brentwood
Speaker 2: and I was with that bad boyfriend. I was getting
Speaker 2: out of that relationship and as yeah, okay, and then
Speaker 2: I remember I met Casper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, oh my god, I forgot about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you laughed at him talking about Casper Indian.
Speaker 1: He's an actor, lovely, lovely man, like love him, but
Speaker 1: he had He's very looking, I mean, like so good
Speaker 1: looking to the point where it was just sort of ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And he had a Casper tattoo on his bicepp and
Speaker 1: so that, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was very Yeah. So he came on
Speaker 2: to to play my love interest Griffin. Yeah, and were
Speaker 2: and I always drew you into my madness, like you
Speaker 2: had to go out with me and hang out with
Speaker 2: this guy because I could never do it alone. I
Speaker 2: did this time with you, and yeah, I remember hanging
Speaker 2: your apartment Broen. He was very nice. He was like
Speaker 2: too nice, he was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very sweet.
Speaker 2: That was the problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you and I have always had the opposite in
Speaker 1: terms of huh, I like the guys that really right?
Speaker 2: Right, she loves god, Oh my god, I can't even
Speaker 2: say it. Like, it's hard for me to get it
Speaker 2: out because I'm the opposite. She loves guys that are
Speaker 2: so nice, that take care of her, that are doting,
Speaker 2: that almost like sickening. Yeah, not like it's just called
Speaker 2: being a gentleman like. But I never understood it.
Speaker 1: No, I know it was like opposite and I never
Speaker 1: was into those guys.
Speaker 2: No, So we never had a problem when we would
Speaker 2: meet guys because we would like puller opposites.
Speaker 1: No. And who was the guy? Remember there was the
Speaker 1: guy with the brown hair who was also on a
Speaker 1: two one. Was his name Trevor Trevor And we went
Speaker 1: to like I remember, like a knight. Him and his
Speaker 1: friend was like on a double date or something. We
Speaker 1: went to like Dupars or something on Lebrea.
Speaker 2: Yep, and he was I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I can't say all this stuff.
Speaker 1: He was what he was loved. He was a lovely
Speaker 1: man of leading me.
Speaker 2: Oh he treated me like crap right that went south?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Someone mentioned him the other day and I did,
Speaker 2: like this Google search. He's a realtor.
Speaker 1: Now, oh, really interesting. But what about Jamie Walters.
Speaker 2: Though, aw, Jamie was the sweetest. Yeah, the three of
Speaker 2: us hung out.
Speaker 1: I wanted you and Jamie to be a couple.
Speaker 2: I kind of like I wanted you to marry Jamie.
Speaker 1: I was like you, I feel like you guys would
Speaker 1: have been a good because he had a little bit
Speaker 1: of He wasn't too you know, sickeningly sweet nice like
Speaker 1: you're saying, but he was he had the edge, but
Speaker 1: he was like a good person. I thought I loved him.
Speaker 2: Oh I know, Yeah, he married, divorced, divorced, Okay, and
Speaker 2: he lives like five minutes from me.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: We text now and then and he's like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: and our kids. Oh, like two of his kids go
Speaker 2: to the same school. It's like, yeah, interesting, I know,
Speaker 2: I know. I I don't know.
Speaker 1: He was living with he Drew right when we when
Speaker 1: we worked with him, he was living with Drew correct
Speaker 1: or are they know? Are they broken up? Maybe?
Speaker 2: I don't rememb'd broken up? Oh he lived with a
Speaker 2: bunch of guys because I used to sleep over there.
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, platonically, Yeah, he never liked me? Why
Speaker 2: didn't he like me?
Speaker 1: Really he did that?
Speaker 2: Oh? I don't think he did.
Speaker 1: Okay, remember the pumpkin patch when we went to the
Speaker 1: actual pumpkin patch.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I felt like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was just like his fun girl. Remember he was dating,
Speaker 2: that's right. He had that really oh nice and.
Speaker 1: He now I remember he had a very very young girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not illegally young.
Speaker 1: Not illegally young, but like a young sweet girl that
Speaker 1: was just kind of like, I'm obsessed.
Speaker 2: With you, right, But it was also his manager, his
Speaker 2: music manager at the time, who was enormous. It was
Speaker 2: his daughter, that's right.
Speaker 1: I forgot.
Speaker 2: Oh, that was a tough one. So it was never
Speaker 2: going to work out for us because after that experience,
Speaker 2: and then he's going to what date now, date the
Speaker 2: producer's daughter. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Maybe if
Speaker 2: he had, they would have kept him on the show.
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. That was a whole bunch. Just agree.
Speaker 2: So now we'll skip forward to scary movie. I remember,
Speaker 2: because we hadn't talked for a while, that I was
Speaker 2: scared to see you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember feeling the same, and.
Speaker 2: I was like, we were such good friends and we
Speaker 2: had no reason that no friends, it's just oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wait too, remember, oh god, what I started to almost
Speaker 1: bet my pants of story, No, scared you.
Speaker 2: Remember remember when I had my vintage like antique car. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had the pickup truck I had like Mercedes, and
Speaker 2: like I drove them once or something whatever. But you
Speaker 2: remember the night it was like a Sunday night and
Speaker 2: we went to Malibu.
Speaker 1: To Oh no, not that Jeffries.
Speaker 2: Nope, not that one with the clam chowder which I'll
Speaker 2: never eat again. They just went, Oh, they just closed down.
Speaker 1: No, I know you're talking about.
Speaker 2: It's on the sunset Gladstones. Oh gladstones, Yeah, Gladstones. So
Speaker 2: I think we were with Kevin, who was my roommate
Speaker 2: at the time. Dentist Kevin, dentist Kevin.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Before he was oh my god, you hear me.
Speaker 1: I miss you. I have so many funny memories of you.
Speaker 2: Who are you talking to He's not here.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying hi to him if he's.
Speaker 2: If he's listening, he won't or he did an episode
Speaker 2: with him. He only listened to that one.
Speaker 1: You would listen to his Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Remember when he used to be he'd always be like,
Speaker 2: you're so flat, and he would right to your face.
Speaker 2: Oh god, he'd be like.
Speaker 1: Oh you ever talked about anyway? Keep going? I don't
Speaker 1: want to get off topic. Keep going.
Speaker 2: We were glad Stones. So we were at Gladstones and
Speaker 2: we clam chowder and everything and had a lot of
Speaker 2: drinks and they would make the like duck foil, like
Speaker 2: a duck the oil and give it to you. And
Speaker 2: then I don't know why we decided to go from
Speaker 2: Gladstones on a Sunday evening, mean clam chowder, but we
Speaker 2: decided in Malibu to drive all the way hand to
Speaker 2: Hollywood and what was that stripp drink called girls Girls Girls, No, yes, yep, yes,
Speaker 2: we went.
Speaker 1: There with the ducks, with the ducks, whale ducks, oiled
Speaker 1: foiled ducks. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I didn't have to film the next day,
Speaker 2: but you did. So then Scary Movie Too, Right, We
Speaker 2: hadn't talked with h This is our friendship. Always had
Speaker 2: so much fun together. We started Scary Movie Too, and
Speaker 2: quite literally picked back up where we left off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which was great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was like as nothing even, Yeah, was
Speaker 1: just yeah. And I was dating.
Speaker 2: Austin, right, yeah, Austin. I can't break myself away from
Speaker 2: this conversation. Moron talks about that all the time. Yeah, Austin,
Speaker 2: he was so great, God We've been with some great people.
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you might ended up with the best one,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you have a good track record. I try
Speaker 2: not your friend Tee fifty one still not getting it right. Wait,
Speaker 2: so Scary Movie too. Yes, it was definitely what we
Speaker 2: talk about when we say like people coming onto our set.
Speaker 2: We were kind of newbies on that set just because
Speaker 2: they all knew each other from Scary Movie one.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and that was I don't know if you remember,
Speaker 1: but that Conduction was something where I think we were
Speaker 1: supposed to be working on it for like six weeks
Speaker 1: and it ended up being like four months. It was
Speaker 1: so over budget and like so crazy, and you remember
Speaker 1: like we would just go to set and we wouldn't
Speaker 1: even have sides. It would just be like we're just
Speaker 1: going to improvise today. Do you remember that.
Speaker 2: I do. In fact, there would there would be days
Speaker 2: we would come in, go through makeup and hair, we'd
Speaker 2: go to like one of our trailers, and we'd be
Speaker 2: talking and waiting and the way and would be writing stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then they'd be like, you know what, We're just
Speaker 2: not going to film the day. I remember like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. And it went on and on.
Speaker 2: And on like months.
Speaker 1: I just remember making so much money on that job
Speaker 1: because it was like they just kept extending it and
Speaker 1: extending it and extending it, and it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess we're doing another month of this. Oh, another month,
Speaker 1: another month.
Speaker 2: Wait. I didn't make any more money.
Speaker 1: After it, Yeah you did.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. What no story in my life. Everyone
Speaker 2: else got extended and they just threw me and I
Speaker 2: was a bogo great but we made an unlikely We
Speaker 2: had a little click on set. So yeah, it was you,
Speaker 2: me and Tim Curry. Yeah, I love love.
Speaker 1: And you know Pete's doing a documentary about him right now.
Speaker 2: Yes, he did tell me that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then spending a ton of time with him
Speaker 1: and filming with him, and yeah, no he was. He
Speaker 1: was amazing.
Speaker 2: I loved him amazing. Instead of the two shit stars,
Speaker 2: it was the three sh stars. Like we obviously very professional,
Speaker 2: but we at lunchtime. I don't feel like we were
Speaker 2: invited to like the cool We got along with everybody
Speaker 2: and everyone was super kind. But they had a built
Speaker 2: in relationship. So yeah, Anna and Regina like would be
Speaker 2: together and it.
Speaker 1: Would be you and me and yeah, and Chris Elliott
Speaker 1: and Chris Elliott, who was amazing, And do you remember
Speaker 1: Martin Marlon Brando was supposed to do. Yes, yeah, Like
Speaker 1: we're all freaking out because we were going to meet
Speaker 1: Marlon Brando and they went to his house and had
Speaker 1: this crazy meeting with him, and it.
Speaker 2: Was I was going to come to set that day
Speaker 2: and just yeah, me.
Speaker 1: So exciting and then it was like, and he's not
Speaker 1: doing it. It's James Woods, which was exciting.
Speaker 2: Too, but who we had fun with as well, who.
Speaker 1: We had full with as well.
Speaker 2: But you know he's yeah, yeah, I forgot about that
Speaker 2: for a while. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah Natasha Leone, Natasha leon she was in it too.
Speaker 1: I'm just remembering that now. Yeah she was Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was great.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, but yeah, they would let us improvise and
Speaker 2: that was really fun.
Speaker 1: You were grated, and I remember, and I remember Keenan
Speaker 1: was always kind of like shocked at how good you were.
Speaker 1: Like he was always like, she's like really good at
Speaker 1: and you would just go off and do the craziest shit,
Speaker 1: like crazy shit. Do I remember when we went to
Speaker 1: the premiere being terrified for you because I remember you
Speaker 1: and I were both like scared to see that because
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen the movie, and we were just like,
Speaker 1: what if they used some of the stuff that you
Speaker 1: did and said that was really kind of out there.
Speaker 2: And I didn't have to worry about that because they
Speaker 2: practically cut me on them.
Speaker 1: Oh that's not true.
Speaker 2: Ish, is it?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I've never talked about this. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: little I don't know. I'll never know what happened.
Speaker 1: That's funny because I never saw it that way, Like
Speaker 1: I never like when I saw the.
Speaker 2: Cut, you certain scenes that technically don't even make sense
Speaker 2: story wise because they were too busy chopping my end
Speaker 2: lines out. Oh I have seen yeah, but I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean when I signed on to do it, it
Speaker 2: wasn't It was a good part. But the fact that
Speaker 2: Keenan and Marlon and Sean were so game because they
Speaker 2: were so shocked that I was so jew they dirty.
Speaker 2: I think they loved you that they were like they
Speaker 2: encouraged that side. Oh and Cowan was the one. He
Speaker 2: was like, he was like, you know, you're really funny,
Speaker 2: and he's like, but you know it's gonna be hard.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it is hard, no one, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna be Aaron Spellings daughter Donna Martin Forever, and
Speaker 2: he's like, you need to do something where you're playing
Speaker 2: yourself right, which I went on to do that didn't
Speaker 2: really work either, but it was duly noted. But yeah,
Speaker 2: they thought it was so funny this like yeah little
Speaker 2: like white girl like Jewish white girl, so prim and
Speaker 2: proper and nine O two one zero and I would.
Speaker 1: Be like having sex with the ghost.
Speaker 2: Take after take. I'd be like, tell me what to say.
Speaker 2: They were like, nope, we like how you do it,
Speaker 2: just go. So I wish I could see those deals
Speaker 2: because it would be like, yeah, that ghost scene. I
Speaker 2: was like throwing things out that I don't even know
Speaker 2: how I knew these things. I was like, oh, raw
Speaker 2: dogs out there, like just say raw dog, Like oh
Speaker 2: my god, and I was like yop. And then my
Speaker 2: publicist at the time saw the first cut, the director's cut,
Speaker 2: so Keenan's cut, and she called my manager at the time,
Speaker 2: Joan Green, and said, I don't know how she's ever
Speaker 2: going to work again.
Speaker 1: And she's like, what do you mean.
Speaker 2: She's like, every word out of her mouth is the
Speaker 2: F word, every and so I'm hearing this and I'm like,
Speaker 2: did she say it was funny though, like and.
Speaker 1: She's like I love it.
Speaker 2: She was like, I don't know, like this this is concerning,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, they told me you'd keep
Speaker 2: going further with it. I was like, are you sure anyway?
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then I don't know what happened. But
Speaker 2: by the time it came out and we went to
Speaker 2: the premier, I was like.
Speaker 1: Well that happens though, and all, having been on the
Speaker 1: other side and having done it as not the actor
Speaker 1: but the person sitting in editing cutting shit, it's like,
Speaker 1: it really is never about the acting. It's always about
Speaker 1: the story. Always it's not. I mean, you like cut
Speaker 1: stuff where you're like, this scene is amazing, I love
Speaker 1: it so much, but like it just doesn't try and
Speaker 1: I just need to get to the next scene. So
Speaker 1: you really can't. I mean it's hard not to as
Speaker 1: an actor. Of course, we take it personally, but it's
Speaker 1: never about the acting. It's always about story.
Speaker 2: Okay, if you say soon, trust me, I don't mean
Speaker 2: it in a bad way acting. I just mean, I know,
Speaker 2: remember they asked me to show my boobs to.
Speaker 1: Warm wait, remind well, oh was it the thing where
Speaker 1: they wanted to have Well, they wanted me to do
Speaker 1: it too, and I was like, I won't do it.
Speaker 1: It was a thing where they wanted us to look
Speaker 1: hot and then the take off the shirt and it's
Speaker 1: like grandma boobs, Like do you remember that?
Speaker 2: Okay, that was your version?
Speaker 1: I was like absolutely not, Like there's no way in
Speaker 1: fucking hell I'm doing that. Like fire me before I'm
Speaker 1: doing that.
Speaker 2: Mine was in the ghost scene and yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 2: negotiated beforehand, it wasn't ever brought up nothing. And then
Speaker 2: I remember sitting in my trailer and getting the script
Speaker 2: and I was like, whoa you know takes her shirt off,
Speaker 2: like up, he flies her shirt up and she shows
Speaker 2: her boobs and I was like, oh, what do I do?
Speaker 2: So I called my manager at the time and she
Speaker 2: was like she said that. She called my dad and
Speaker 2: because they were really close, and he was like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's a Miramax film, like this is a big deal
Speaker 2: for her. If it's not hurting anything or if it's
Speaker 2: not weird story wise, maybe she should do it. I'm like, what,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I totally remember this, yes, And then
Speaker 2: what remind me though?
Speaker 1: The out like so then what ended up happening? Because
Speaker 1: I know you obviously didn't do it, so what ended
Speaker 1: up happening remind me of the outcome because I know
Speaker 1: you obviously didn't do it, But what was the.
Speaker 2: I just remember her saying I talked to your dad
Speaker 2: and he said, like, because it came down from like
Speaker 2: the top, like it's important for the scene, is what
Speaker 2: they basically said. And I was like, and he was like,
Speaker 2: if the Weinsteins want it right, she should probably like
Speaker 2: not go against that. That was pretty much. And no,
Speaker 2: I didn't do it, No, I.
Speaker 1: Know, And was it I don't remember. So mine was
Speaker 1: that they wanted it to do this right? Yours was
Speaker 1: they wanted to just see your boobs?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was supposed to be the original movie was
Speaker 2: I guess the spoof was that? Was that the entity
Speaker 2: with not Karen Black but Barbara Hershey no anyway, and
Speaker 2: she had like the oh so it.
Speaker 1: Was supposed to be as.
Speaker 2: To be a parody of that because in that movie
Speaker 2: the ghost like pulls up per thing. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 2: no one like got it whatever? No, So I don't
Speaker 2: think it was interval. But wait, was yours in there? Though?
Speaker 1: How? No?
Speaker 2: Not? You see? For me it was still in there,
Speaker 2: but just wasn't me.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: There's a version. No, my wrong, Oh they did something else.
Speaker 2: It was just like big bush coming out of my
Speaker 2: underwear or something.
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't mind that, Like mine was
Speaker 1: like awful and like just like Embarre, like it's still
Speaker 1: just one of those things. It's probably the only thing
Speaker 1: I was. Of course, now we're shining light on it,
Speaker 1: so everybody's gonna go back. But it's like that scene
Speaker 1: where like they wanted me to hit into a wall
Speaker 1: with like pushing a button and then it's like Will
Speaker 1: like it was so stupid.
Speaker 2: But you so did that one.
Speaker 1: Well I had to do that one because that was
Speaker 1: like in the script, right you know. But yeah, they
Speaker 1: wanted I feel like they tried to get every one
Speaker 1: of us to do that other joke, like I remember
Speaker 1: they asked all I remember they had they asked Regina,
Speaker 1: like they really wanted that joke of a girl who
Speaker 1: like looks smoking hot and then when she takes her
Speaker 1: shirt off, she actually has breasts that look like a grandma. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no way in how I'm doing this. Yeah, like no,
Speaker 1: not happening.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, so can we tell the story of how
Speaker 2: you met your husband, Chris.
Speaker 1: I don't know, can we I don't remember this specificity.
Speaker 2: No I do.
Speaker 1: I'm joking. I got a little like nervous because you know,
Speaker 1: there's little some specificities that I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: speaking about.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I met my husband through you through So Torri
Speaker 1: was dating Rick Alvarez and Rick was a producer on
Speaker 1: Scary Movie, and they met after she was cast on
Speaker 1: the film.
Speaker 2: I never went out with humntil after the movie we wrapped.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, and you guys became.
Speaker 2: We went for drinks like maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think one night there was like a
Speaker 1: birthday party and we were shooting and it was super late,
Speaker 1: and you and Rick were going to some birthday party
Speaker 1: of a friend of his at a club in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: and you guys, you know, were like, come with us,
Speaker 1: come with us, Come with us. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it. I'm not in the mood.
Speaker 1: And I guess on the other side, Chris's roommate was
Speaker 1: saying to him like, oh, there's party night, come come come,
Speaker 1: and he was like, I don't feel like it. So
Speaker 1: we almost didn't go and meet each other. And but
Speaker 1: we did, and we met and when I first met him,
Speaker 1: I thought, oh my god, he's so nice. I like him,
Speaker 1: so into him. He's the best. But he wasn't my type.
Speaker 1: He was a suit. He was kind of like a
Speaker 1: you know, an executive vibe like worked at Paramount. Was
Speaker 1: very like straight laced, and I had always dated artists,
Speaker 1: and so I kind of thought, he's really sweet and
Speaker 1: I'm into him, but he's not really my type. And
Speaker 1: then as we became really really good friends, and then
Speaker 1: after we became kind of very very close friends, I
Speaker 1: sort of slowly realized like, oh no, I actually I
Speaker 1: actually really like him. That was it.
Speaker 2: That was it. See, thank goodness for me always dragging
Speaker 2: you into my mess and making you go with boys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that would not work out for me. But yeah, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, you guys were just good friends for a while.
Speaker 2: And he liked you so much though, Yeah, And we
Speaker 2: would always talk about it and I'd be like, she
Speaker 2: likes you, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: And we're twenty year wedding anniversary.
Speaker 2: How did this happen? I feel like it was just
Speaker 2: yesterday now.
Speaker 1: It's insane. Yeah. We have two kids. We have an
Speaker 1: eight year old named Bennett, and a sixteen year old
Speaker 1: name William.
Speaker 2: I got the William and Stellar at the same age
Speaker 2: we were pregnant.
Speaker 1: Once friend and really on the football team came and
Speaker 1: he's still very sweet.
Speaker 2: And wait, the two of you created someone athletic.
Speaker 1: I know it's not real. Yeah, yeah, he's like a
Speaker 1: total nice Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: Wait, can we talk about Swimming with Sharks because I
Speaker 2: feel like we've never talked about it and tested me
Speaker 2: very sweet, obsessed with it, and not only was it amazing,
Speaker 2: but I think having really like known you for so long,
Speaker 2: I just so appreciated that I just saw every aspect
Speaker 2: of you through every scene of that show. And I'm
Speaker 2: talking from hairstyles to wardrobe to stet design, just music,
Speaker 2: like locate everything, and I think, yeah, I'm just really
Speaker 2: proud of you for making that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That means a lot because it was very
Speaker 1: much a labor of love and it was, like, like
Speaker 1: you said, like every hairstyle, every breaking, every detail was
Speaker 1: like chosen. So yeah, that was cool. No, I know
Speaker 1: you reached out to me after it meant a lot.
Speaker 1: It was really sweet. So now I'm trying to make
Speaker 1: my next show and get someone to give me money again.
Speaker 2: So your production.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to direct my first movie which I'm
Speaker 1: super excited about, which I wrote. It's a thriller that
Speaker 1: I'm going to do soon. And uh yeah, just tons
Speaker 1: of tons of writing stuff, tons of writing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it. Would you totally give up
Speaker 2: acting if you could just be on the other side
Speaker 2: of it?
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like, no, I don't think. I
Speaker 1: mean I feel like I'll always act. I do love
Speaker 1: it still, and I'd love to sort of get to
Speaker 1: a place where I can just kind of work within
Speaker 1: the stuff that I'm making, like the way that like
Speaker 1: Britain Mark will write herself a role in her show
Speaker 1: or you know, like I would love to sort of
Speaker 1: be able to do it that way because it is
Speaker 1: so time consuming that it's like really really hard, Like
Speaker 1: right now, like could I really go off and just
Speaker 1: go shoot someone else's show for like probably not just
Speaker 1: give them with all the other stuff. It would be
Speaker 1: very difficult. So we'll see.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, well, I hope we get to work together
Speaker 2: a third time.
Speaker 1: I know we will. This crazy I'm going to call
Speaker 1: you one of these days and be like, will you
Speaker 1: can do this part on something? I feel like you
Speaker 1: I feel like you. I was thinking about before when
Speaker 1: I was driving this morning. I was just thinking about
Speaker 1: us talking and I was going to say, and this
Speaker 1: is kind of like just me out of the blue
Speaker 1: saying this, but I just I want to say it,
Speaker 1: which is that.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 1: The thing about you that I've always loved and I've
Speaker 1: always appreciated is that you are so much more And
Speaker 1: I'm going to get emotional, but you are so much
Speaker 1: more than you need to be and that has ever
Speaker 1: been expected of you. Like, I feel like the reason
Speaker 1: why I connected with you so deeply when we met
Speaker 1: was that so like, I'm blue collar, I'm from like
Speaker 1: a steel city, I'm very scrappy, I am a worker bee,
Speaker 1: I am very much like grinder insane work ethic, and
Speaker 1: you are all those things and you came from the
Speaker 1: total opposite of where I came from. But you're the
Speaker 1: core of who you are is that like you are
Speaker 1: more than enough. And I think that you and I
Speaker 1: both share that thing where our core belief is that
Speaker 1: we're not enough. Yeah, reality, you are more than enough
Speaker 1: and you are more than like you ever needed to be.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And the way you're phrasing, it is actually resonating
Speaker 2: with me more because I mean, I guess when we
Speaker 2: were young, we just knew we had fun together and
Speaker 2: we have the same humor and personality in the fashion,
Speaker 2: But now hearing it as fifty one year old women,
Speaker 2: you're right, we always had that connection as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm totally polar opposites but the same. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like your.
Speaker 2: Scrappy scrappy is a great underused rite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it kind of it's like that grit. It's
Speaker 1: like that grit and that scrappiness that comes from being
Speaker 1: usually really blue collar, but like you have that so
Speaker 1: much a part of you.
Speaker 2: Where does it come from?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Born to the wrong family, It.
Speaker 1: Must come from your because your dad was that way, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I built himself up from.
Speaker 2: Nothing from nothing. Yeah, okay, that's.
Speaker 1: Where it comes from. I would think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a worker bee, I like worker bees right, like
Speaker 2: all this.
Speaker 1: You are hardcore in the best sense of the word.
Speaker 1: Like you are like no joke, no bullshit, You take
Speaker 1: care of yourself, you don't ask anybody for anything, and
Speaker 1: you just are like I got this and I just
Speaker 1: love that about you. So I want to tell you that.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, I'm definitely not for the week now
Speaker 2: in a good in a good in a good way.
Speaker 2: You'll always have fun. Yeah, Oh I miss you even
Speaker 2: more now.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm coming to La soon, so you are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm coming soon for meetings and stuff.
Speaker 2: So we'll have to hang and pencil me in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, find you a man? Did you say find you?
Speaker 2: Did you said pencil me in? But I would love
Speaker 2: you a man? Find great? Maybe subconsciously I was thinking that.
Speaker 1: Why did I think that that's what I heard? Interesting?
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, I feel like fifty one,
Speaker 2: like it would probably best to find someone else that
Speaker 2: is divorced and has kids, right right. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't like. I don't know how open I would be.
Speaker 2: I'm open to anything, but just having to start over
Speaker 2: and someone coming into a situation with a woman with
Speaker 2: five kids seems daunting because they don't know anything about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you lived, you need a specific Yeah, but you'll
Speaker 1: find someone, Yeah, I know you will.
Speaker 2: It'll be the wrong one as usual, but sure. He
Speaker 2: checked off all the boxes. Wait, there's more.