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Speaker 1: And Lowe. Welcome to the Naughty but niceha. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, and it is Friday, which means our dear

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Speaker 1: friend Corey. Andrew joins us, Hey, Corey, are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am here.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday, everyone.

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, Corey. We've been doing this a long time.

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Speaker 1: We're on season four of our podcast. Corey. I'm still

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Speaker 1: a little nervous about the technology.

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Speaker 2: I know people can only see like right before we start,

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Speaker 2: like every Friday, and you know, it's always a thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, here we are, it's always a thing really good

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Speaker 1: at the content. I can say that with total total

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Speaker 1: conviction the technology. It's always a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: give and to take. But we're here, we're here, it's

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Speaker 1: all working well. So let's keep going while things seem

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Speaker 1: to be doing just fine. What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is big story at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: So Ellen is deeply hurt after John Wilvaney took a

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Speaker 1: brutal jab at her, saying that she feels like the punchline.

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Speaker 1: Let me explain. So John Bulvaney, I love him. It's

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Speaker 1: very very funny. He took a dig at her. He

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Speaker 1: was really doing one of his shows and he talks

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Speaker 1: about being a parent, and he compared life with a

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Speaker 1: toddler son as working on the Ellen Degenerous show, like

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Speaker 1: it's trickery, It's never that easy. Might look like a

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Speaker 1: lot of dancing and singing, but it's a lot of drama.

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Speaker 1: And you know that having a three year old son

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Speaker 1: is like working on that show. So after he said this,

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Speaker 1: people laughed. It was very gentle. It was I think,

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Speaker 1: very very funny. Ellen did not appreciate their sources tell

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Speaker 1: me she's really angry. It's so interesting, isn't it. Always

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Speaker 1: the people that can dish it out can never take it.

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Speaker 1: And if Ellen's naughtiness means had just been the level

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Speaker 1: of John maulvain is towards her staff, her staff would

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Speaker 1: have laughed, it's fine, we can take a joke. I

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Speaker 1: think we can get so sensitive so wrapped up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and not wanting to upset anybody that we sort of

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Speaker 1: stifle having actually a good time. John's been funny. Ellen.

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Speaker 1: You've been a comedian for a really long time. You know,

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Speaker 1: a joke's a joke. And this is different from what

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Speaker 1: Ellen did to her staff. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think also she is really in a place of

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Speaker 2: she's still sort of very sensitive to that. That way,

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Speaker 2: her brand got damaged in that regard, and she's never

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Speaker 2: really recovered from that. I mean, she's trying to do

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Speaker 2: different things, and you know, she's got the skincare line

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Speaker 2: that pops up like at two in the morning and strange,

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Speaker 2: which strange, but I know, yeah, she never really recovered

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Speaker 2: from that, and I think, you know when your brand

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Speaker 2: is nice, Remember at Rosie o'donald had the same situation.

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Speaker 2: She never quite recovered from that brand damage. So I

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Speaker 2: guess I understand why she's sensitive to it.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but she's also I think, get a

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Speaker 1: forty million dollar home in England. You know you do? Not?

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Speaker 1: You doing okay? Rosie do? You both are doing okay.

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Speaker 1: It just makes me laugh that people that give it out.

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Speaker 1: I found this in my own life, not with celebrities,

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Speaker 1: just in my regular life too. The people that could

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Speaker 1: so I can laugh at myself. In fact, even better

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Speaker 1: than that, I'm the first to laugh at myself, and

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Speaker 1: then it takes away the sting. It takes to anybody

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Speaker 1: else's power. Ellen's very sensitive. I in my pr DA's

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Speaker 1: would take celebrities to all the different TV shows, and

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Speaker 1: I went to the Ellen Show several times with different clients.

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Speaker 1: It was always a little off. You know, when the

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Speaker 1: vibes just just off when you walk in a room.

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Speaker 1: It might be a bar of restaurants and something's not

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Speaker 1: quite right. That's how I felt at the Ellen Show.

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Speaker 1: It was just the staff are walking on eggshells and

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Speaker 1: And I think Ellen, having somebody make fun of this.

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Speaker 1: This is what comedians do. And if the foot you see,

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Speaker 1: make a joke like this yourself. John mulvany is a

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Speaker 1: really nice guy. There's comedians out there that are much tougher, nicky, glazier.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to know what she thinks about like that. Though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the last week this is what he does. It's just one.

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Speaker 1: Your life ain't gonna change. It's not gonna change the

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be just fine, Which brings us to our

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Speaker 1: whole question of the day. Ellen's deeply hurt over John

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Speaker 1: Mulvaney's brutal jab. I think it's actually quite a soft jab.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Ellen is right to be upset? Would

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Speaker 1: you be upset? Or can you for yourself? That's basically

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Speaker 1: the question here? Can you naughties? Can you laugh at yourself?

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Speaker 1: Be honest, be honest about it? I can, I really can,

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Speaker 1: But after the fourth joke its a little you know,

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Speaker 1: if you keep going, But like you know, you can

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Speaker 1: you can make fun of me? What about you? Go

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Speaker 1: check back on Monday to hear your results. Hey Corey,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on?

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, this is a story that I didn't even

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Speaker 2: remember it happened, but now that it's in the headlines again,

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Speaker 2: you know. Serena Williams is raising eyebrows this week after

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Speaker 2: she is finally revealing why she dodged a face to

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Speaker 2: face moment with her longtime friend. I almost said best friend,

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Speaker 2: but you know, they're all so close. But her good

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Speaker 2: friend Taylor Swift at this year's Super Bowl, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the explanation is not necessarily what the fans are believing,

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Speaker 2: and they're kind of scratching their heads now. According to

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Speaker 2: Time magazine, Serena, who is forty three years old, and

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Speaker 2: her husband Alexis they brought their daughter Olympia, right up

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Speaker 2: to the pop Stars VIP suite and hopes of getting

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Speaker 2: like an autograph and but you.

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Speaker 2: From the cruel Summer singer, Serena suddenly backed off and

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Speaker 2: like just didn't engage at all with Taylor Swift, which

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Speaker 2: just sort of like backed away, and she's that kind

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Speaker 2: of quietly pushed away from the moment. Now, Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: got to step up right and come to the room

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Speaker 2: think that so much in life revolves around us doing

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Speaker 2: And if, for whatever moment in that situation, Serena felt

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Speaker 2: her later and let her know why. The fact that

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Speaker 2: that part didn't happen, that's peculiar because I would call

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Speaker 1: But here's why. Why why? Yeah, My instincts would be

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Speaker 1: difficult thing to explain to a child who wanted an

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Speaker 1: an autograph. It's not that big a deal. Some celebrities

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Speaker 1: I'm just not really in the mood. I don't want

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Speaker 1: Shooter show. You've seen it, Corey. I've been having drinks

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Speaker 1: I think, here, Serena, there's something not right about this story. Serena,

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Speaker 1: the world, your friends with Taylor, your daughter wants a picture.

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Speaker 2: If you're a celebrity and you get start and treat

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Speaker 1: It's hard to deal with that. I've seen that happen

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Speaker 1: So Bethany was on TikTok mouthing off, getting attention, and

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Speaker 1: told Bethany is quite stung by this reaction. It sounds

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Speaker 1: that she's someone always on TikTok saying really really tough

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Speaker 1: are not the daughters, and so if you howives want

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