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Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to ok F Daily with

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Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Home Bunker. Folks,

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Speaker 1: I'm starting off this week and just I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know why I'm shocked, but on some culture news

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Speaker 1: and first and not any political news as of yet.

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Speaker 1: But you'll know if you follow me, you know that

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Speaker 1: I love Beyonce right. Not only do I think that

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Speaker 1: Beyonce is one of the most innovative, creative, brilliant artists

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Speaker 1: of our time, I think that she is a genre shifter,

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Speaker 1: bender and an expansionist. Whenever you see someone who starts

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Speaker 1: in one art form kind of boxed in as this

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Speaker 1: pop star when she was younger, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: moves through the evolution of Destiny's Child and then becomes

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Speaker 1: a solo artist and then from the Beyonce album to Lemonade,

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Speaker 1: you know, to what we have in this moment of

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Speaker 1: Cowboy Carter. Not to mention, you know, obviously just the

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Speaker 1: other Boundless albums. To not be recognized when you are

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Speaker 1: the most brilliant star out there at the CMAS, to me,

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Speaker 1: is just like the racism at the Country Music Awards

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Speaker 1: is on another level. Let me be clear, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a fan of country music. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: when anybody ever asked me, like, what is your favorite

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Speaker 1: genre of music, I'll say I like all music except

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Speaker 1: for country music. And the reason that I always had

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Speaker 1: that response is because country music, to me, was steeped

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Speaker 1: in racism and misogyny in a way that like, I

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Speaker 1: didn't vibe with. And I will be honest with you

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Speaker 1: that Beyonce's Cowboy Carter usually her albums when they drop, like,

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Speaker 1: I will just ingest them as quickly as I possibly can,

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Speaker 1: because I've written essays on Beyonce's work, I've gone on

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Speaker 1: television to talk about the politics of her work. But

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Speaker 1: Cowboy Corter was like, you know, she doing country, so okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, like not my vibe. Not everything is for everybody.

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Speaker 1: When I listen to that album from start to finish

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Speaker 1: on a train ride, I was in tears. I had

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Speaker 1: never felt more patriotic and connected to the roots of

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Speaker 1: this country tree more than listening to that album. And

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Speaker 1: I am not being hyperbolic. Folks have to understand that

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Speaker 1: while I was born in the United States, my family

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Speaker 1: is from Jamaica. So the roots of black American history

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Speaker 1: is something that I have learned, not necessarily something that

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Speaker 1: I have experienced, right, It is a very different experience

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Speaker 1: And I've learned that over the years. There is a

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Speaker 1: difference experience that my Black American friends have, right, whose

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Speaker 1: families are from you know, this country, versus my friends

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Speaker 1: have very different experiences. While White America may see us

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Speaker 1: all one way, we definitely do not see our selves

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Speaker 1: outside of racism. But I'm talking about like our familiar experiences.

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Speaker 1: So to be introduced to like the roots of country music,

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Speaker 1: to understand like terms like cowboy and where that came from,

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Speaker 1: to really get what I believe that her album offered,

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Speaker 1: which was a tutorial, if you will, a masterclass into Americana,

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Speaker 1: right music, and to say that like this is our music, right,

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Speaker 1: this is black people's music, this is black people's culture,

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Speaker 1: was extraordinary. So is it a shock that then the

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Speaker 1: Country Music Awards would like give the ultimate snub to

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Speaker 1: the number one country album of the year. It's not

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Speaker 1: Dixie Chicks, right, we're now the Chicks, right, Look what

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Speaker 1: is black or a person of color shocked by this? No,

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Speaker 1: But I think that it just draws into our vision

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Speaker 1: Racism will always exist and will always hit in any

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Speaker 1: way that it can. But the reality is is that

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Speaker 1: stay rising, gonna stay having a conversation like who knows

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Speaker 1: who else was nominated? We know who wasn't nominated, and

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Speaker 1: just I was annoyed so much, but again, like not shocked,

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Speaker 1: to bring back to the show the managing partner at Arena,

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Speaker 1: Lauren Bear, to discuss their recent get out the Vote

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Speaker 1: workshop series that they are doing. And you know, as

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Speaker 1: that we deliver in this election in so many different ways.

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Speaker 1: So Lauren and I get into really good conversation about

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Speaker 1: the great work that Arena is doing, you know, with

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Speaker 1: coming up next, folks. I am happy to welcome back

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Speaker 1: to WOKF Daily the managing partner at Arena, Lauren Bayer,

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Speaker 1: to talk to us about all things get out the vote,

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Speaker 1: and frankly, there's been a change since we last spoke

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Speaker 1: Lauren understatement of the century, understayment of the Century, I've

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Speaker 1: been calling it a seismic shift that happened at the

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Speaker 1: August at the time of this taping. Talk to me

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Speaker 1: about how you are feeling personally about the shift at

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Speaker 1: adapted to the change at the top of the ticket certainly.

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Speaker 2: And first, fal Danielle, thanks for having me back again.

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Speaker 2: So to frame all of this, I'll just remind folks

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Speaker 2: that I'm the managing partner at Arena, where we build

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Speaker 2: the teams that power democratic victories, and so we're in

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Speaker 2: the business of recruiting and training campaign staff and deploying

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Speaker 2: the country. And just six eight weeks ago, I would

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Speaker 2: say the overwhelming feeling was exhaustion, perhaps despair, a lot

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Speaker 2: of concern. People definitely recognized the stakes, they knew what

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Speaker 2: was on the line in this election, but there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of concern about how we were going to

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Speaker 2: jump over that hurdle and put a Democrat in the

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Speaker 2: White House again. And I think what we saw after

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Speaker 2: Biden made that truly historic and selfless decision to step

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Speaker 2: aside was a collective exhaling. First, I talked to so

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Speaker 2: many people, myself included, the overwhelming feeling was relief, and

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Speaker 2: this coalescing around Kamala Harris and then Tim Walls and

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Speaker 2: what that has meant for us at Arena is figuring

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Speaker 2: out how to take all of that joy, all of

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Speaker 2: It into action, because one thing we know super well

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Speaker 2: is good vibes don't win elections, votes votes. With elections,

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Speaker 1: I think that for me, and I've stated this so

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Speaker 1: many times on the show since the shift, that people

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Speaker 1: listen to wooke af and they know that I am

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Speaker 1: no stranger to rage, that I am no stranger to

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Speaker 1: anger and finding ways in which to articulate that. But

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Speaker 1: I will say Lauren that I did not truly realize

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Speaker 1: how devoid of possibility and joy I was until this

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Speaker 1: just like kind of hanging on for dear life in

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Speaker 1: the hopes that us articulating the stakes of this election,

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Speaker 1: so talk to us about how the engagement has shifted.

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Speaker 1: Because while we say and folks are saying like, oh,

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Speaker 1: vibes are not votes, But what I realize now is

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Speaker 1: to feel good. It is not enough for people to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean the first thing I want to

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Speaker 2: acknowledge is that there were people who were doing the

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Speaker 2: hard work before this shift. You know, we have trained

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Speaker 2: a couple thousand people this election cycle. We were in

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Speaker 3: And the groups who stood to lose.

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Speaker 2: The most under a second Trump term, women, people of color,

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Speaker 2: Something that I have heard over and over again over

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Speaker 2: doing when she talks about how we're not going back right,

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Speaker 2: which is a backward looking perspective that's really regressive in

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Speaker 2: so many ways because we know what Trump means is

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Speaker 2: so at Arena, what we're really doing is saying, Okay,

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Speaker 2: How do we take people and give them tangible skills

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about what folks can expect inside of

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Speaker 1: those workshops and how if they are not connected with Arena, like,

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Speaker 1: why it's important to actually get this level of training.

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Speaker 2: Sure, so, first of all, one thing I will say

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Speaker 2: so many people out there think that all you need

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Speaker 2: send out a team of people with no background or experience.

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Speaker 2: But campaigning is just as much of a skilled profession

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Speaker 2: as is anything else, so we treat it really seriously.

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Speaker 3: In the arena world.

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Speaker 2: Getting out the vote is one of the most important

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Speaker 2: times of an electoral cycle. It's the few weeks before

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Speaker 2: election day when we're taking those folks who we've identified

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Speaker 2: get to the polls. And so what we're doing at

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Speaker 2: these training sessions is taking individuals who are going to

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Speaker 2: be participating in GOOTV programs or running them themselves, and

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Speaker 2: teaching them how to run the most effective and efficient programs,

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Speaker 2: whether that's how to develop your GOOTV plan, how to

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Speaker 2: the best data available, how to choose the tech stack

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Speaker 2: things that most individuals who work on campaigns never have

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Speaker 2: in an interactive classroom setting. And so that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: How do they vary from I should say, do they

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Speaker 1: vary from state to state? Like, is what you're teaching

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Speaker 1: folks that may be in Georgia, let's say, different than

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Speaker 1: what you would teach people that are in New York.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you two answers to your questions.

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Speaker 2: The first thing I will say is we are set

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Speaker 2: teaching a set of skills and best practices that are

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Speaker 3: And we have.

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Speaker 2: Individuals who are working on campaigns everything from small city

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Speaker 1: Yes, we need to run through the tape on this one. Lauren,

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