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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to forty five,

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Speaker 1: episode four of Jo's I Got You Stay production of

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Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into American share of consciousness. And it's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: July four teen point point two said that like disease,

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Speaker 1: what's going on in July four teens? You know it's

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Speaker 1: National Tape Measure Day. He shout out the Noble Tape Measure.

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Speaker 1: Also and Cheese Day. Okay, I'm not big. I feel

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Speaker 1: like Mac and Cheese is probably like appropriately rated, you know,

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Speaker 1: like I don't need fee and Cheese restaurant to be

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Speaker 1: like yeah, but I don't need that ship Like it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a solid side if you if your main

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Speaker 1: course is not getting the job done, is not going

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Speaker 1: to like stick to your ribs, you can go Mac

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Speaker 1: and cheese and like it adds a little extra, But

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Speaker 1: I do not need a Mac and cheese restaurant. Mac

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Speaker 1: and Cheese is just it's I feel like it's perfect,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I'm never mad at it. There,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh there you are. Hey, I love thee

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Speaker 1: but I'm never like I think it's all contextual, right,

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Speaker 1: because like in certain family meals, like it has to

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Speaker 1: be there culturally in some places, like you gotta have

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Speaker 1: the macacheese there. Yeah. I feel like it's also gets

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Speaker 1: sucked up more often than people probably like it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you can't suck that one up, but you can. You

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Speaker 1: can frequently do not you in particular the people in general.

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Speaker 1: That is one of my mom kills kills it on

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Speaker 1: the mac and cheese, and I have her recipe and

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Speaker 1: it's one of the very few things that she made

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Speaker 1: really well that I'm able to, you know, replicate everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's been described as like Heroin by somebody who has

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Speaker 1: done Heroin. Wow, Like it wasn't like a complete They

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Speaker 1: were like, this is so good. It's like Heroin, And

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, Heroin, don't say how good Heroin

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Speaker 1: is around my children, but I appreciate the compliment. Like

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Speaker 1: Andy Cohen New Year Show, it's like a warm blanket

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Speaker 1: inside it was And come, my name's Jack O'Brien, a

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Speaker 1: K Potatoes O'Brien, a K Apple Jacks, And I'm thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, Mr

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Speaker 1: Miles Miles Gray. You know him as head d O NoHo.

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Speaker 1: But maybe because he was in Spain. You call him

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Speaker 1: Javier bars Them Salvador Bawling Gray, the guay er Nika,

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Speaker 1: which I saw for the first time, fantastic peace and

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Speaker 1: the mayor ap Plaza Major. Okay, shout okay, shout out

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Speaker 1: that those are the Wherenica won like Gray er Nica. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I had that right.

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Speaker 1: Just say that again out loud for the rest. Sound

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Speaker 1: out to Spain who I'm sure we We've just gained

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Speaker 1: a bunch of fans and oh yeah, and they I

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Speaker 1: mean very quickly, like you cannot take a picture of

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Speaker 1: the gurn a gun. I'm like, damn part of which

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Speaker 1: I had, like those ray bands where could be like

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Speaker 1: you ain't. But it's not like I'm gonna look at

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Speaker 1: my own photo of the garant. Yeah by this usually

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Speaker 1: although so uh, I just went to a work of

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Speaker 1: art that is the obviousite I feel like it is

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Speaker 1: specifically designed for taking pictures of, and that is Yayoi

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Speaker 1: Kusama's Infinity Mirror Room. Have you been there? I mean

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Speaker 1: I've I've only seen the thousands of pictures of people

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Speaker 1: like a closet with mirrors on all the walls. That

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Speaker 1: look at the pictures and you're like, WHOA, that was cool.

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Speaker 1: Photographs way better. Yeah, it photographs incredibly. To my namesake,

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Speaker 1: you shout out to your namesake, your boy. Anyways, Miles,

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be joined by a very talented writer

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Speaker 1: Or wrote a book called of Her Story that is

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Speaker 1: classic NBA magazine covers available wherever fine books are sold.

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Speaker 1: And he's the host of the new NBA podcast, running

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Speaker 1: The Break with c J and Alex. With yesterday's guest,

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Speaker 1: c J Toldanna, it's Alex wa. What's up, Alex? What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 1: How did they decide those national whatever days? By the way,

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Speaker 1: like when did that start? Because there's one every day?

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Speaker 1: I know, m here, I love that because there's always something. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think you just submit it because they're there are

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Speaker 1: Staplers or some ship, although may not. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to slag off Staplers. I think massively important

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Speaker 1: the state player though three days ago. Yeah all right,

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Speaker 1: I had a six year old and a four year

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Speaker 1: old they think Staplers are very cool. Oh so, so

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Speaker 1: happy National Staple Slapler Day whatever. But yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: this needed to be a holiday when they're Golden Retriever

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, yeah, and sometimes you can just

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Speaker 1: when when it's completely invisible the origins, You're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so what industry decided that this was National casings Day

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Speaker 1: or whatever national It was National Fried Chicken Day last week,

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Speaker 1: just always confused, like, are like I feel under pressure

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Speaker 1: to like celebrate that, Like I probably chicken a lot,

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Speaker 1: but am I supposed to go eat that when it's

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Speaker 1: a holiday? When it's a national day. I feel like

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Speaker 1: if you're you know, if you are already on or

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Speaker 1: you're already in the game. You know, you don't need

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Speaker 1: to you don't need to do ceremonial like celebrations just

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Speaker 1: for the optics. If you're living that life already, That's

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Speaker 1: what I Okay, no, no, I'm with that. I'm with that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just it's so fascinating to me because I feel

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Speaker 1: because I feel like someone's celebrating a national holiday every day,

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Speaker 1: and it's really confusing to me. Yeah. Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 1: like you used to be at the territory of like

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Speaker 1: did you know what day it is? I don't know, Steve.

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Speaker 1: But now because we are all that annoying person looking

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Speaker 1: for shipped to talk about on social media, it's it's

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Speaker 1: definitely taken on a second life. M Yeah, We're all

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Speaker 1: just it's marketing has become like so powerful. Well, now

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Speaker 1: that with with the advent of social media, that like,

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Speaker 1: our society is completely designed by the marketing industry, and

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Speaker 1: they're just like, what if we gave every day a

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Speaker 1: people talked about it on their own and our podcast

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Speaker 1: was like, yes, please, yes, please, and don't forget folks,

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Speaker 1: a gorgeous Grandma day. Yes, what are you supposed to

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Speaker 1: do with that information? This is just all I want

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Speaker 1: out of gorgeous Grandma and there you go. Alright, Alex,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a

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Speaker 1: couple of the things that we are talking about today.

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Speaker 1: Coolla Night seven just another another banger. As we got

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Speaker 1: more details, we got a real, a real spicy meeting

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Speaker 1: where everybody was just shouting at each other. Trump like

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Speaker 1: literally got some I got a White House aid to

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Speaker 1: like the people who actually work at the White House

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Speaker 1: were like, how the fun How did you get in here.

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Speaker 1: Like one of the aids was like, oh shoot, I

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Speaker 1: just saw Rudy Giuliani and like called her boss, and

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Speaker 1: then everybody like came running. Is like it was. It

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Speaker 1: was like having a child and there like unruly friends

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Speaker 1: it almost led to the cooing of the nation. A

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Speaker 1: soft coup, a dumb coup, but a coup. Nonetheless. Somebody's

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Speaker 1: face timing me. I've never been FaceTime by somebody who

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Speaker 1: It is officially gone flat. That c there is, so

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Speaker 1: we we're gonna talk about that plenty more. But first, Alex,

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Speaker 1: we like to ask eric guests, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: you know, they should bring back Lyle, Like, was me

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Speaker 1: like thirteen or something? He he's a child. How did

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Speaker 1: they bring him back without him being like it's me

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Speaker 1: while it's TV man that they they make the magic happen.

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Speaker 1: But they have they've done something with d aging, like

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Speaker 1: there was a breakthrough d Aging. Have y'all watched Hacks? Yes? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: What's that Scorsese Netflix movie? That one kind of looked

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Speaker 1: like the aging was terrible on that. Yeah, so it

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Speaker 1: generational habits that you have to like shed because like

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Speaker 1: like to your point of like our job didn't exist

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Like half the time, I have like

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Speaker 1: anxiety thinking about like what my grandparents, like my like

429
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Speaker 1: World War two Japanese grandparents or like my black grandparents

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Speaker 1: would be like, that's not a job. And in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, you're right, because from all the stories I've

432
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Speaker 1: heard from y'all, it's about running yourself ragged and that's

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Speaker 1: what you called work. And in part of me is

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Speaker 1: like am I So I think a lot of the

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Speaker 1: times you were like am I still honoring that level

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Speaker 1: of physical destruction in the act of working and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it can be can be a bit of a head fuck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my parents. My parents still, like, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: maybe until recently, didn't really still understand what I did

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Speaker 1: because I came from a very traditional business job, which

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Speaker 1: I understood a year working in a company that they know,

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Speaker 1: so what I do when I switched to sports, especially

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Speaker 1: when I started making like you know, decent money, is

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Speaker 1: like I would make sure all the checks get sent

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Speaker 1: to their place so that they they'd be like, you

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Speaker 1: have mail, and I'm like open that for me, so

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Speaker 1: then they would see else so they would see I

448
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Speaker 1: was actually making No, but like really for like for

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Speaker 1: like a five year stretch, they literally like they literally

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Speaker 1: did not believe when I told them I was making

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Speaker 1: money like covering some prints, Like it was just something

452
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Speaker 1: that they could not fathom because like immigrant parents, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, they came from Hong Kong. Like they just

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Speaker 1: couldn't believe it. So like, no, it was a very

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Speaker 1: difficult like like process to like convince them that I

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Speaker 1: was actually working. Yeah, like it was. It took a

457
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Speaker 1: while for me to go from like making YouTube videos

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Speaker 1: to like doing that as a job for companies from

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Speaker 1: like yeah, and now I make videos for like this

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Speaker 1: magazine and it's like, but there was no money when

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Speaker 1: you were doing it. I'm like, that's because I was

462
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Speaker 1: doing dumb videos, Like this is a skill like that

463
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Speaker 1: you can do and they're like, okay, all right, I

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Speaker 1: believe it when I see the videos. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: a good thing. My my in laws are very impressed

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Speaker 1: with my they're both Korean immigrants and they totally get

467
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Speaker 1: the value of podcasts, and uh have believed in the

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Speaker 1: vision from day one, just like so confused, but also

469
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Speaker 1: like they were never like you have to go to

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Speaker 1: law school. They were just like you should go to

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Speaker 1: law school and I didn't. So here we are. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. And

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Speaker 1: we're back. And finally, Alex, we do like task our

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Speaker 1: guess what is something you think is overrated? People who

475
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Speaker 1: always talk about quitting social media or reducing their screen time.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I think I think there was a

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Speaker 1: whole economy of people just like writing stories about you know,

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Speaker 1: getting off the internet, quitting Twitter for like thirty days

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Speaker 1: and all of this stuff. And you know, I live

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Speaker 1: here in Toronto. We actually had like a across Canada.

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Speaker 1: It was like a nationwide service outage last Friday, so

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Speaker 1: like actually there was like no access to online for

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Speaker 1: me for like half a day. You know, my friends

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Speaker 1: and I. So there's two service providers here, I'll keep

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Speaker 1: it quick. One of them was down, the other wasn't,

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Speaker 1: so you know, we were just all all around the city.

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Speaker 1: People were just sitting on the outside. Yeah yeah, so

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Speaker 1: Bell and Rogers. So then Starbucks. Starbucks was like with

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Speaker 1: the other network. So every there's like just two kids

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Speaker 1: outside Starbucks stealing life. And it just made me realize

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Speaker 1: that day, like I have a bike gap that I use,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't use, so I had to like take take

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Speaker 1: take the streetcar instead. I was pulling up Uber Eats

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Speaker 1: on my way home from work and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I guess I can't order Uber eats because I know.

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00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, the reliance on this is

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Speaker 1: just insane. Like I had meetings that were set up,

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Speaker 1: you know, friends were trying to reach me. But it

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Speaker 1: just made me realize it's actually the opposite, like we

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Speaker 1: gotta appreciate how much access we have to be online

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Speaker 1: world more versus hating on it. Because I think you guys,

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Speaker 1: the topics that you guys talk about and obviously you

503
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Speaker 1: guys are you know, familiar with the online world. It's

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Speaker 1: like I used to be envious of people who are

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Speaker 1: like I don't own a TV, or like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not on Twitter at all, I don't do any of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Now I'm like, this is just part of

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Speaker 1: our lives and we got to embrace it. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't like what you see on your Twitter timeline

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Speaker 1: or your I G TikTok, whatever it is, there's tools.

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Speaker 1: You can mute people, you can create lists, you can

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Speaker 1: mute words. I just think when people talk about they

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Speaker 1: want to quit social media, you're just not using social

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Speaker 1: media is smart enough, because I've never had I've never

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Speaker 1: had an issue like I'm very I'm always online just

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Speaker 1: because of you know, the sports world, in the job,

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Speaker 1: in the industry that I'm in. But I'm like, I've

518
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Speaker 1: never had burnout. And like I've seen all the ship

519
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: I've seen the world crumbling the last like five years,

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00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, checking in on the US politics and you know,

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00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: all the stuff that's happening around the world. But not

522
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: a single day have I ever felt like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: I need to get off social media. So no more

524
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Speaker 1: anti quitting the internet and social media. I think you're

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Speaker 1: very overright. You're lucky if you said you looked in

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Speaker 1: the in the hell I and you're like, no, but

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Speaker 1: I did, oh man, because and I think probably the

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Speaker 1: nature you know, like if because of like having to

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Speaker 1: talk about news and like what's happening every day, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't unfortunately don't have the luxury to curate what

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Speaker 1: I look at because I need a holistic understanding of

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Speaker 1: what's going on and I can't like sort of avoid

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Speaker 1: certain things. But I but I, but I do get

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Speaker 1: your point, like there is there's the good and bad,

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00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: and those tools are there. Unfortunately, the way I engage

536
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Speaker 1: with social media a lot of the time is to

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Speaker 1: be like you know, you just you have to open

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Speaker 1: that door where all the noises coming out from and

539
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: you're like, I gotta see what's happening in there from

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Speaker 1: my job, and you're like you're like, okayun fun funk okay.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair, that's fair. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: just like personal approaches, yeah, because like I'm I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: on Twitter a lot, and like I just don't I

544
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: don't engage with people like I'm not there to have

545
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: conversations like like I have a decent size following, like

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00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: people want to talk about sports, Like I'm just there

547
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: to get some jokes off, right. It's like, you know,

548
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: like I think it's just but then I pull up

549
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: and I'll pull up Twitter after like six hours and

550
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: I see like two sports writers just engaged in like

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Speaker 1: a seventy tweet thread over like some hypothetical scenario, and

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00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know you two have well paid jobs,

553
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: Like there's no way you got to spend your time

554
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: with this. So it's like, I don't think we need

555
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: to be extreme about being online all the time or

556
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: quitting social media entirely. I do feel like there's a

557
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: middle ground that people can strike. I just I just

558
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: get really annoyed when people are like so proud of

559
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: themselves for like being on Twitter for thirty days. I'm

560
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: like that guy who like jumped off jumped offline for

561
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: like a year after Trump got nominated, it was just

562
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: like I actually just like moved to the woods and yeah,

563
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: it's like whoa exactly in a lab? Yeah? Or the

564
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: personal essay economy of people who like write about what

565
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Speaker 1: their life was like, and it's like, oh, so you

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Speaker 1: actually like read a book finally, Like it's like congratulations,

567
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: like we could do both, right, Yeah, yeah, man, I

568
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: will say that like the idea. I didn't know that

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Speaker 1: story about like half Toronto losing internet access, I like,

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00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: I just got real jealous of that, Like that sounds

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Speaker 1: like exciting and like a fun event if like all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden have the inner Like granted, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to do my job and you know, taking

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Speaker 1: care of you know, our family would be a lot harder,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know, it sounds cool. No. I was

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Speaker 1: trying to think of, like what was the most minor

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Speaker 1: inconvenience for a person in this city, And I think

578
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Speaker 1: I landed at like somebody probably like negotiating to sell

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Speaker 1: a pair of sneakers on like Facebook for like months,

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Speaker 1: and they finally set up a meet up on like

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00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: the Friday morning, and then it just didn't happen. They

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Speaker 1: could not contact each other and somebody just didn't have

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Speaker 1: each other's info, and now that pair of sneakers has gone.

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Speaker 1: I was just trying to think of what was the

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Speaker 1: dumbest inconvenience people would have ran into. Right, alright, let's

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00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: let's hit some January six hearing information. I mean it's

587
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: more of the same, more of Trump being basically like

588
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: just a drunk person, a horse in the hospital, a

589
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: drunk person in the White House, and everybody just being like,

590
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: oh no, he's with his bad friends. We've got to

591
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: stop this. Yeah, phil Andy Dick got back in here.

592
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Speaker 1: You know, how boud have been influence real Andy Dick? Yeah,

593
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, they on Tuesday, the hearing was really focusing

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Speaker 1: on like what coordination or what the communication or connections

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Speaker 1: were between like the violent you know, extremists we saw,

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00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: uh and the like how they may have been in

597
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: contact with the White House, and just sort of the

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00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: general path to like this like this quote unquote rally.

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00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: So we heard from people like the former spokesperson of

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Speaker 1: the Oath keepers, like a regular MAGA guy who did

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00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: some crimes because he was just listening to what Trump said.

602
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: Former Twitter employee who was like, I was telling them

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00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: for weeks that this seemed so bad what I was

604
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: seeing on Twitter from a content standpoint, and it just

605
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: seemed like we weren't going to do anything about it,

606
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: and you know, just sort of the broad strokes of

607
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: it were just to sort of paint this image from

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Speaker 1: the moment Trump realized that he had exhausted all of

609
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Speaker 1: his options in terms of trying to like rat fuck

610
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Speaker 1: an election went out and realizing, oh, I think I

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Speaker 1: have to shift to like mob violence. So they point

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Speaker 1: to this one day on December when again this was

613
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Speaker 1: when it was clear there's real note like the legal

614
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: paths have dried up, and he had a cool party

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Speaker 1: with the four horsemen of horse shit, had Sydney what's

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Speaker 1: cracking Powell, Mike Flynn, disgraced General who was you know,

617
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: obviously lied to the FBI and was later pardoned, uh

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Speaker 1: the former CEO of Overstock dot Com, and Rudy Giuliani,

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: and they all basically took turns getting in Trump's here

620
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: about how they could prove that there was this selection fraud,

621
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: and it was like they were there were actors outside

622
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: of the US, and there there maybe was corruption with

623
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: Democrats and this, that and the other, and nothing was

624
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: really sticking. And during this meeting, a bunch of like

625
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: the White House lawyers heard about it crashed this party

626
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: and it just turned into like an all out screaming

627
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: match because they're like, what are y'all doing here? What

628
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: are you telling him. One guy was like telling one

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Speaker 1: of the lawyers he's like he's like, you know, he's

630
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Speaker 1: just he's like, you've done nothing, blah blah blah, like

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Speaker 1: you've been you've you've failed the president. And the lawyers like,

632
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: who do you think I am? He's like, you're Pat Sippolonian.

633
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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm not you fucking idiot, like I'm this

634
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: other guy shut the funk up. And it got to

635
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: the point where like even Mike Flynn like stood up,

636
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: gotten a guy's face, and then this lawyer was like, yo,

637
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: you better sit down. There's gonna be a problem. And

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00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: then Mike Flynn sat down. So all of this and

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00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: the conversation, when you like listen to the like account

640
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Speaker 1: of it, it's just very very much like the guys

641
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: the White House lawyers are just like I don't know, man.

642
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: They were talking about like Chavez and like Venezuelan voting

643
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: machines and ship and we just kept being like what

644
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: evidence do you have? What evidence? And they just kept

645
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: being like you're not fighting hard enough for the president.

646
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: They were like evidence, I don't hear evidence. You're you're

647
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: a coward who standing Yeah, but like president, you need

648
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: fighters you need fighters, Mr President, as Mike Flynn kept

649
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: telling him, because he's saying, you need more flunkey's who

650
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: are just going to, you know, make up magical laws.

651
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: There is an interesting moment where like, as this argument

652
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: was going back and forth the Oval office, that's just

653
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: an interesting moment. Quote. At some point the meeting migrated

654
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: to the yellow Oval Room in the White House residence,

655
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: where Trump served the group Swedish Meatballs, who is the

656
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: former CEO of overstock dot Com was quote NonStop housing meatballs.

657
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: He ate so many meatball end quote, one person familiar

658
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: with the gathering told the Washington Post. There the fighting continued.

659
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: We're fucked side. This guy was NonStop. What is I

660
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: think you should leave sketch. I know he's like, you're

661
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: not gonna tell anybody how I was housing the Swedish meatballs?

662
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: Are you? Then? M dash he ate so made me

663
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: such a great This is my favorite detail revelation thus

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Speaker 1: far of the January six And you know that quote

665
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: came from some guy who was in a frat. Yeah,

666
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: she was NonStop housing meatballs. Like I can't imagine that

667
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: quote from coming from some like lawyer person. Anyway, So anyway,

668
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: this basically after all that happened, it was clear to Trump, Okay,

669
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: the lawyers don't want to help these people who are

670
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: telling me there's like all these cool conspiracy theories. They

671
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,240
Speaker 1: don't seem be panning out. And it turns like, maybe

672
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: we just need to get more people on the two

673
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: d C on the six too, maybe physically in you know, intervene.

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00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: And this is when he had the tweet talking about,

675
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Peter Navarro has this like report on

676
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: like the fraud and how it's like mathematically impossible for

677
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: me to have lost. And then he says, but don't worry,

678
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: there's gonna quote big protest in d C on January six.

679
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Be there will be wild. He tweeted that like in

680
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: a few hours after all this ship went down in

681
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: the Oval office. So they're showing this timeline of like

682
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: they got together, they had this screaming match on how

683
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: it could be solved. It housed a bunch of meatballs

684
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: and was like, you know what I needed. I need

685
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: to signal to the goons that January six is the day.

686
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: You know, he says, stand back and stand by. Well,

687
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: now we have you have orders to be there January six.

688
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: So As they go on with this, they also bring

689
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: up the fact that the one of the organizers of

690
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: the rally was applying for permits with like the Park

691
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: Services for like a quote static event like this was

692
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: just going to be a rally in one place. They're

693
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: just gonna be speaking and that was it. It's over.

694
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: No other like movements or anything like that would would

695
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: happen at this rally. But behind the scenes, clearly everybody

696
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: in the administration knew that the plan was go there.

697
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: And then you know, at some point Trump was just

698
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, we should just we should we should

699
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: march on the Capitol, y'all. And this was an interesting

700
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: tweet that the organizer of the rally texted to the

701
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: My pillow guy, Mike Lindell. She texted, quote, this day

702
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: is only between us. It can it can also not

703
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: get out about the march because I will be in

704
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: trouble with the National Park Service and all the agencies.

705
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: But potus is going to just call for it, quote unexpectedly.

706
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: And they point to the fact that like as documentaries

707
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: and things showed a lot like the Proud Boys of Oathkeepers,

708
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: they had moved towards the Capitol like even before Trump spoke,

709
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: like they knew where they had to be once the

710
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: like of march happened, so they would be at the

711
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: very front of like this confrontation with the Capitol police

712
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: and these other people who were at this rally. So,

713
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: you know, the way the January six Committee is sort

714
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: of laying it out is saying, you know, they're willfully

715
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: mischaracterizing what this event is going to be to a

716
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: maybe have less protection at the Capitol because for all

717
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: intents and purposes, the main thing was just going to

718
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: happen at the ellipse and that was it, and that

719
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: would allow for like lighter security on the Capitol. Meanwhile,

720
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: these other like extremist groups could coordinate like where they

721
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: wanted to be and how they were going to enter

722
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: the Capitol. And as we've learned in previous ones, he

723
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: wanted to be leading the charge like straight up like

724
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Washington crossing the Delaware style, just like be you know,

725
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: with his with his horses, just like you know, going

726
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: going down there. So yeah, it's it's well, I mean,

727
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: like you know, and it's it's kind of hard to

728
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: square like who knew what when because most people observing

729
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: were like this is gonna be bad on January six,

730
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: and there was plenty of analysis that seemingly didn't lead

731
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: to like, you know, physical tangible results in terms of

732
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: like physical security at the Capitol. But you know, all

733
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: in all, it just it continues to paint like just

734
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: how how much you know coordination was going on and

735
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: how premeditated many of the things are, which I think

736
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: anybody who saw what happened that day was like this

737
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: ship just didn't happen to any thing. But as a

738
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: fun aside, I just want to point out John Bolton,

739
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: Mr War the war mongering muppet himself. He was on

740
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: CNN arguing with Jacob with Jake Tapper, we can call

741
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: him Jacob Happy Jacob Jacob Tapper just about saying, like,

742
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's a pretty wild like basically going on

743
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: about was it a coup? Was it not a coup?

744
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: How do you even define what a coup is? And

745
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: then John Bolton sort of like, um, actually he's his

746
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: way into being like, yeah, I did some coups, um,

747
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: And so let me just pread this for you, Donald Trump.

748
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Looking at for Donald Trump, it's a once in a

749
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: lifetime occurrence. I don't know that I agree with you

750
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: to be to be uh fair, with all due respect,

751
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: one doesn't have to be brilliant to attempt a coup.

752
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: I disagree with that as somebody who has helped planned

753
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: coup data not here, but you know other places. It

754
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: takes a lot of work. And that's not what he did.

755
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: It was just stumbling around from one idea to another.

756
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: Ultimately he did unleash the rioters at the capitol as

757
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: to that, there's no doubt, but not to overthrow the

758
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: constitution to buy more time, to throw the matter back

759
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 1: to the stage to try and redo the issue. Okay,

760
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: there's someone who's you know, I've done a couple of coda.

761
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: I like how he like speaks of it. Like the

762
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: way he referred to cou's is like the way that

763
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: like a foodie will refer to something like very in

764
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: a different way that you're like, oh damn, that's yeah.

765
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: Oh they know how to pronounce s crewde top. Yeah,

766
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: take your pick crewdite as I call it, take your

767
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: pick of. There's a few people are like, okay, so

768
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: he said he was planned a coup. Uh, let's check

769
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: out one of the ones like which one could have

770
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: possibly been. And it's like, well, it's too early for

771
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: like Iran in the fifties, and then like it's probably

772
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: this sweet spot here in the eighties is where he

773
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: may have a shout into saying like yeah, I was

774
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: in the room talking to people about how to do that,

775
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: not there or right there, but right around here this yeah,

776
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: so yeah, this is just I just like that. Even

777
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: in the commentary of it, there's just like more like

778
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: gross American issues, like as somebody who's planning to overthrow

779
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: governments before in the sake of the military industrial complex.

780
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: This wasn't a coup and that's a disrespect to the

781
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: real earth fuckers like me. It's like he's the way

782
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: he took offense to it, right, yeah, I will I

783
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: would say there's a point he a point he is

784
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: making there is like, well, no, like that when the

785
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: CIA wants to overthrow a government, they just like start

786
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: killing people, and like it's very much more precision operation.

787
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: This guy's a dipshit without any sort of practical knowledge

788
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: of like how to do this sort of thing. That's

789
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: definitely true, but it doesn't change the fact that he

790
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: was like trying like he to just disregard the fact

791
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: that he wanted them to hang like pants. It's pretty

792
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not I'm not sure what he like,

793
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: what basis he's using to be like he just wanted

794
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: to put it back to the States. It's like he

795
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: said that Mike Pens maybe should be hung like as

796
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: people were trying, right, Yeah, well, I mean everyone's doing

797
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 1: their best to obscure what happened, especially when you're someone

798
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: who worked in that administration, Like yeah, alright, let's take

799
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: a quick break, we'll come back. We'll speak about the

800
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: death of Celter. Be right back and we're back. And

801
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: the hard Seltzer boom officially flat what our writer JM

802
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: actually he said officially dead. I added the flat and

803
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: I want credit for it. I nailed it. You all

804
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: saw it. I'm gonna mail myself that headline so you

805
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: can steal it. Anyways, I did. I did not realize this.

806
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: I've I've been observing the hard Seltzer boom from Afar,

807
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: but it really you know, nine twenty nineteen twenty one,

808
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: we hard Seltzer sales were going up, up, up, twenty

809
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: two comes around. People are back out there. This felt

810
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: like maybe the summer that there were the most people

811
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: out and you know, just behaving like they normally would.

812
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: You might have expected it to keep going up, and

813
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: instead it fell. Boston Beer had to throw out millions

814
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: of cases of truly hard seltzer in the fall. I mean,

815
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: to be honest, that should it tastes bad? Though, so

816
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: does it all taste bad? I so I I don't

817
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: drink I haven't drank since, and I'm not like interested

818
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: in it, but I am curious about like what this boom,

819
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: Like what has caused this boom and what like what

820
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: because it's like malt, it's not It's not like a

821
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: vodka soda, which is what what I think people are

822
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: looking for from it. It's instead like a malt beverage.

823
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because that's that's how they get around, like

824
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: the liquor loss, right right. But I don't know. I mean,

825
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: I I'll drink it on occasion, but I never got

826
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: to the point where I'm like, yo, let's get fucking

827
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: clawberd firm. Like I was not into the Seltzer like that.

828
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, like Alex, what was the vibe was it?

829
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: What were the seltzer vibes up north? You know what?

830
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm like the worst person to talk to about this

831
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: because I just go out hang out. I'll just drink

832
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: whatever's in people's fridges or what there. You go to me,

833
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm a I'm a follower, not a leader

834
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: in that situation. Have you ever had the urge? Have

835
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: you ever like when you're like, oh, you know what,

836
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: let me that's in the fridge, let me try this.

837
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: Do you ever go that's a little bit of all right,

838
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: or you're like, nah, this ship is not no you

839
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: know what I drink I when I opened a fridge.

840
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: It's the can design that gets to me. So so

841
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: for all the designers out there, you know, I pick

842
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: based on the design. Yeah yeah, not the actual alcohol. Yeah,

843
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: this one's called Horseshit flavor. But I just love the design.

844
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like a Goya painting or something.

845
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: I think, like, honestly, it started off as like it

846
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: was super easy to drink. You know, it's just like

847
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: you you pick it up, it's got light flavor. People

848
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: were like, it's healthy because it's clear. Was like, I

849
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: think sort of like the weird subconscious trade you did

850
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: to yourself when you drank them. And then after a while,

851
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: like I felt like there were like three ones that

852
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: were like cool flavors to drink, and then everybody fucking

853
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: showed up, like even Topo Chicos. Like literally hold my

854
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: beer as I enter the fucking Seltzer Wars and everybody

855
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: had an offering, and I think it just got I

856
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: just got flooded, and like because everything kind of tastes

857
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: the same, It's like, well, I don't know, man, then

858
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: it's all kind of the same to me. That was

859
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: my experience with it Chico such a great example of

860
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Speaker 1: like the growth over every anything kind of like just

861
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: the problem with capitalism is like they have a good

862
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Speaker 1: product and they're like, Okay, well we need to show growth.

863
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna enter the flavored beverages market, We're gonna

864
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Speaker 1: enter the hard celter, just like trying to like grow

865
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: in every direction. We're gonna do a line of toys

866
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: for kids. It's like, what, what the funk are you

867
00:46:54,600 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: talking about? The Super Chicos super Kids. But like, I

868
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: mean that all happened because Coca Cola bought them like

869
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: five and that that completely just changed the trajectory where

870
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: they went from like this local thing that like I

871
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: felt like annoying people in like Highland Park were like, dude,

872
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: topo to now being the you know, the in seltzer

873
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: or carbonated water. Yeah, I don't know. It honestly just

874
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: feels like the it just lost its luster after a

875
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: while and people like the tried and true ways of

876
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: being inebriated. And for the Atlantic was like, hey, maybe

877
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: this has just always been bad and no one noticed

878
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: because we were all going slightly crazy during the pandemic.

879
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: And I think there's something. I think there's something there.

880
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: I think there's something from the pandemic we're gonna look

881
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: back on and be like, huh, yeah, that was bad.

882
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: That wasn't a good thing that we were all going

883
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: through there. I think all it was was it offered

884
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: a new thing to put in a cooler at a party,

885
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: and then they tried to do that ship at restaurants

886
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: and stuff. I would see it on menus and I'm like,

887
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: what the funk for this? Like why would you go

888
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: out to drink something like if you're at a bar

889
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: to then drink a canned thing that tastes like nonsense

890
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: but that is very That is strange to have a

891
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: product that is like popular and then when people try

892
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: to give it to you in some context here is

893
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: like what you no fucking way man, like that's I

894
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Speaker 1: guess it would be like a pizzeria like having to

895
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Speaker 1: journo or something like on the this like what no

896
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Speaker 1: one's no one wants that no one wants to go

897
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: out for and then pay for a low energy drink

898
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: like that doesn't like beer on tap, sure, like be

899
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: whatever beer like we're I think people are societally used

900
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: to doing that. But I think because seltzer became like

901
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: the fuel of like your mini like COVID turn up parties,

902
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: maybe it's just the thing you want to move asked

903
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'd like a drink where a human

904
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: being put the ingredients together in front of me. I

905
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: don't know. Anyways, the death throws will be embarrassing. They've

906
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: just released something called Awesome Sauce Bun Length and it

907
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: is a seltzer made using hot dog water. So it'll

908
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: be bad. They'll they'll be trying all sorts of ship

909
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: and it'll go. It'll go badly. I'm not gonna lie.

910
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: I went I went to Trader Joe's and I bought

911
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: a Paca Dill pickle seltzer because it was so stupid looking.

912
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: And then I asked them because now like now that

913
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: I know, like they kind of got to talk at

914
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Speaker 1: the register, I'm like, I'm like, yo, what's good with this?

915
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: And like, honestly, we just saw we were just talking

916
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: about how we needed to drink that later, like when

917
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: our shift is over, and the other person came from

918
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: the other register like Seltzer, like, Yo, have you had

919
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: it before? I'm like, no, yeah, we're trying to. We're

920
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: trying to try it. Maybe it could be bad. It

921
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: honestly tastes like like a cucumber. It's really uneventful, and

922
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: I feel stupid that again, I felt for the marketing well,

923
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Speaker 1: Alex has been truly a pleasure having you on TDZ.

924
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all my good stuff? Yeah,

925
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm on Twitter at Stephen underscore Lebron Stephen Lebron

926
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Speaker 1: on Instagram. If you want to make me explain that name,

927
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Speaker 1: I could. I can do it in thirty seconds. I

928
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Speaker 1: signed up for social media when I was still working

929
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Speaker 1: at my accounting job, and you know, my my goal

930
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Speaker 1: on social media the first was just to tweet during

931
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Speaker 1: like you know, board meetings and stuff and just like

932
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Speaker 1: embarrassing my company, and I obviously did not want HR

933
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Speaker 1: to find that. And on the on the day that

934
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Speaker 1: I was signing up for social media, there was a

935
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Speaker 1: very clickbait headline on USA Today Lebron was doing his

936
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Speaker 1: Lebron James was doing his first stint with the Cavaliers

937
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Speaker 1: at the time. It said Cleveland's Lebron suspended fifty games

938
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Speaker 1: for steroids And when you click on it, it is

939
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Speaker 1: a minor league Cleveland Indians picture named Stephen Lebron and

940
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: like this is perfect. Over the years, people think it's

941
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Speaker 1: some kind of you know, amalgamation of like Curry and

942
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Speaker 1: and Lebron James or something like that, and I always

943
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Speaker 1: try to tell them there's absolutely no meaning. I always

944
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: still get a kick out of pr people emailing me

945
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Speaker 1: calling me Steve. I really do not blame them. Yeah, hey, Steve,

946
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Speaker 1: I've got I've gone to events where I'm on the

947
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Speaker 1: list of Stephen Lebron. I'm just like, yeah, Steve here,

948
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Speaker 1: But like it's my own fault. I never I never

949
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Speaker 1: changed that up. But you know it's I feel like

950
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Speaker 1: it's good to not have your your real name online,

951
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Speaker 1: as you know, in as many places as possible so

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Speaker 1: there we go and make sure you know, check out

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955
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Speaker 1: it's an off the court NBA podcast. We talk a

956
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: lot about stuff, um that's taking place away from the

957
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Speaker 1: from the basketball floor. And if you don't like basketball,

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959
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Speaker 1: press play whatever is good for the album. And is

960
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Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social

961
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying. Yeah, so one is actually there

962
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Speaker 1: was a video that was put out of a team

963
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: Canada basketball team. It was an under twenty three team,

964
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Speaker 1: so they're all like born I guess in the late

965
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Speaker 1: nineties early two thousands, and it's a video where they

966
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Speaker 1: showed them things from the early two thousands, iPod, MSN Messenger,

967
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: lime wire, a photo of Britney Spears and me being

968
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: thirty seven. It made me feel really old because they

969
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: had no idea when when they put up the graphic

970
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: of the MSN Messenger what it was. Someone was like,

971
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 1: is this napster or like is this something that you

972
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: guys used? And then and then there was another basketball

973
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: player when she was showing the photo of Britney Spears.

974
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: She was so confident, She's like, yeah, I know that's Shakira.

975
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: So it's it's just it's amazing to me to see

976
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: like things that I followed in my childhood and teenage

977
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: years become things that the next generation is completely not

978
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: familiar with. So I guess I didn't really enjoy that video,

979
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: but that's the one that I picked. It's good for

980
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: it's good for the millennial outrage. Within miles Where can

981
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying?

982
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Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

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985
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986
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Speaker 1: do a little bit of update because two people from

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988
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Speaker 1: Please check it out for all fans of true crime

991
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Speaker 1: and foote. Uh some tweets that I like, Let's see

992
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Speaker 1: uh first one again. I just I love the construction

993
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Speaker 1: of like if I text you blank and moji, it

994
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996
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997
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Speaker 1: text you the flag, it means nor fucking Way. No

998
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Speaker 1: pleasant p l e A four ant tweeted, you should

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Speaker 1: be able to see people's health bars on zoom. Yeah,

1001
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: just as a concept. So I'm like, yo, let me

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Speaker 1: see your health box real quick. How much how much

1003
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Speaker 1: bouncing hearts or whatever the fuck they had in Zelda

1006
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Speaker 1: need to store they need a restoration to my health

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Speaker 1: bars all right? Uh. You can find me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Some tweets have been enjoying Bubba

1009
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Speaker 1: at ratio. These nuts tweeted you just you just disrespected

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Speaker 1: a former Subway sandwich artist. And then the Volatile The

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Speaker 1: Volatile Mermaid Oh no, she twinned tweeted practice self care,

1012
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Speaker 1: take a walk, ride a bike, paint a picture using

1013
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Speaker 1: the blood of your enemies, be friend of well pack

1014
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Speaker 1: to do your evil bid and cast a curse by

1015
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Speaker 1: the ancient willow and the enchanted forest meditate hell, which

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was a good take on a

1017
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Speaker 1: very common thought. I knew where it was headed genre

1018
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: of tweet. Okay, I think there's some actually some good

1019
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: advice buried in there as opposed to the normal self

1020
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Speaker 1: care hippie head up. You're on a s woo woo bullshit.

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1022
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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zygeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily zis dot com, where

1024
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: we post our episodes. On our footnotes, we link off

1025
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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

1026
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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Miles was song do we think people might enjoy? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So TikTok continues to just open my hot It's just

1029
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Speaker 1: so funny how in TikTok there's so many tracks that

1030
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Speaker 1: are just sped up or slowed down versions of like

1031
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Speaker 1: past songs that were popular like ten years ago, and

1032
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh this ship h it's so different to

1033
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: slow and reverb virtue. Uh. And I saw this one

1034
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: clip of like it was just like shots of like

1035
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Speaker 1: Denny vilnav like cinematography, but it was set to that

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Speaker 1: that m A three song solitude, but it's the song

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Speaker 1: is slowed and reverb version. So you gotta check out

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Speaker 1: m A three solitude slowed reverb and you can only

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Speaker 1: get this on SoundCloud. But this song is like so

1040
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Speaker 1: much more dramatic in this way, and I was like,

1041
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Speaker 1: it's beautiful, So yeah, check this one out. M A

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Speaker 1: three solitude sload and reverb for that. TikTok. Right, All right,

1043
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Speaker 1: well we will flick off to that in the footnotes.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Za guys, the production of I Heart Radio

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Speaker 1: us this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell

1049
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Speaker 1: you what is trending and we will talk to y'all

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Speaker 1: then bye bye